When I bought my Yugo M48 I did a lot of research on the platform, and you are so right. The Yugo does differ from the 98k in some important ways. My Yugo M48 is real shooter.
Ten years ago I bought a Yugo rework Kar98k for $250 and I love it. Beater German marked 98ks were going for $500 at the time. Now the Yugo rifles are going for triple that price in some cases and you can't touch a German marked rifle for less than $1,000. I'm glad I got mine when I did. It might not be as collectible but it still scratches the same itch.
Saw a yugo at a gun show yesterday and the guy was doing the very same thing you talk about in this video. Putting German ammo next to it and trying to pass off as a 98
i have a mauser. its an argentine mauser that was sporterized by sears in the 1920s i believe. they cut down the original stock, but didnt touch the crest or any numbers and there are no import markings. it was rechambered in and marked as 30-06. its a gorgeous numbers matching rifle with all the belgium markings. when i bought it i really just wanted the action for a custom rifle, but then i fell in love with it as is.
I've a like new rebuilt M24/47, along with an M48 with a milled floor plate. All three of my Turk Mausers are much more finely machined than the Yugo models, but they are all nice guns-John in Texas
I have a German k98k yugo rebuild I bought in 2014 for $399 I thought that was a decent deal considering the refurbished parts looked very nice ,I took it apart and was able to trace it to a 1943 byf or Mauser manufacture,I’m really like it I don’t feel bad taking it out and shooting it ..and ya I see lots of guys buying the m48 thinking they are getting a ww2 gun …great video
I will never really call any military surplus “non collectors items” none of these guns are being produced anymore and they will all continue to gain value. Just look at the Russian 91/30’s that were called “garbage rods back in the 90’s and 00’s they now go for $500 all the time. I will always view and millsurp rifle as a collectible, mausers most of all
Boy, I learned so much from your video. I have the 24/47 with Century Arms markings and it is a very accurate rifle. I bought it fairly cheap many years ago because I love the old World War II firearms. I am not a collector and would never spend my hard-earned cash on an original Mauser. I thank you for informing us on what is real and what is not real. As you know, there are a lot of A**holes out there who will rip us off and do. I am not ashamed to admit that I have been taken myself, but it comes with the territory if I don't do my research properly. Your video cuts to the chase and has helped me figure out what to look for if I ever want to buy another one. Thank you and have a great day.
I have a 24/47 Mauser. I removed the rear sight and put a Weaver 4X scout scope on it. This rifle will put six rounds on target, one hundreds yards away, in a hole that you can cover with a dime! This is the straightest shooting rifle that I have ever owned!
My all matching Yugo M48 cost me 500 about a year and a half ago. I love it, I reload for it, I wish it fit under my pillow. German K98's go for too much nowadays. I might pay 1000 for an RC but even that would be a stretch for me. Thank you for the video, it is very easy to get beat on the Mausers. Between their history, variations and popularity.
This video is two years old now. If only the prices on everything Mauser - or just almost everything surpluss for that matter - were still as you think they should be.
Got my M48 Yugo 21years ago for $95. I knew exactly what it was when I found it at a show, this is the first I've heard of them being passed off as K98s. To bad, the 48 is still a great gun and that $95 was the best gun money I ever spent. Especially since folks like Badace Tactical have fabricated some great items for simple modification.
I never buy on impulse. I notice something that interests me and do research, and learn about the things. I have Swedish, Chilean, YugM48, K98. and I always got them at a good price..
I just picked myself up an m24/47 on sale from Cabela's gun library for $360 in service grade condition pretty much knowing what I'm paying for, I am happy to have it in my wanna be collection, especially considering some knot head across town I seen earlier that day had the same exact thing in his shop trying to hawk it for $950 and telling me well and well that about blah blah blah, glad I went on down to Cabela's in that instant, no one there trying to blow sunshine up me im not wanting to hear.
I have both a m48 & m24. The m24 is better quality with milled rather than some pressed parts. As a left hander the straight bolt works better for me as well and cycles super smoothly. The m48 looks great though with the steel but plate & k98 style gun strap. It’s nice to have both! A k98, forget about it. With today’s prices that ship has sailed!
20 years ago I went looking for a K98. The gunshop I went to had about a dozen Russian captures that looked like a T34 ran over them. Even then the prices were $1000 or more. In the same rack was a M48 for $299. I bought that, and then learned it was a Mitchell's Mauser. I don't really care, as I was looking for a shooter not a collectible, and it is a damned good rifle.
1000 bucks 20 years ago for RCs? Sounds a bit off to me. About 20 years ago I bougth four RC's from J&G in Presscott Arizona for 229 a piece - with tax. They all looked like they'd been thru a war - who'd a thought it! But they were all great shooters. I had some economic dificulties in 17 and had to sell three of them. I kept the best one and will never part with it.
I bought a Hugo M24 47 20 years ago when they just started importing them the thing was like brand new apparently it was packed away for 45 or 50 years no it's not a k98 but that gun is a nice gun smooth action accuracy is good and it was built on Belgian tooling say what you will, I paid $139 for that gun. Rock Solid gun
I just ordered a Yugo M48A and paid $319 which makes me very happy - I used to have a nice Mauser collection but had to let them go due to a financial down period.... but I still have all the dies, brass, bullets and some loaded ammo so I wanted to get a good 7.92x57 chambered gun - and so when I saw this one available at a wholesaler, I had to get it. Surprisingly, there is plenty of milsurp 7.92 ammo available right now - Turk, Yugo, and more - the Yugo ammo would be my pick from those two....
i got a 98k/48 for 300 but the stock was sporterized other than that the rifle was on pretty solid condition iam spending more in parts to restore it than the amount i paid for it
The cabelas near me has about two dozen Yugo mausers in not good shape for like 500 bucks. they have all been sitting there for about a year. no one has touched them. Im tempted to haggle and see if i can get one for 250
My friend is willing to sell me a Yugoslavian m48 where can I send you pictures and you can tell me more or less the volume and which one of the three it is?
It depends, if you have a Preduceze 44 mod 98 you have a original Kar98k only with the yugo mariking on the receiver. I have one and on everything exept the receiver are the original WaA stamps and all numbers are matching.
@@robrob9050 every Kar98k before 1943 is really good and has A+ materials. The only thing you should not buy if you want a gun with good materials (except you are collecting them) are late war guns, so 1945 or 1944, but even some 1944 Kar98k are good atleast the onces of the first half of the year. But the steal and so on is still good, the only saved on a few things like like the rings that hold the barrel to the stock (don't know how they are namend in english) and the stock.
@@kuessebrama As to original German barrels remaining on Yugo-reworked rifles: It's certainly possible. My original comment only said that "a lot" of the Yugo re-works have new (Yugo) barrels on them.
@@robrob9050 I prefer not to get into disputes online, but - for what it's worth: I am unaware of any trusted sources that indicate that the German rifle materials truly suffered, in terms of their characteristics, through the end of the war. I'd have to go back and look at the books by Karem & Steves or even R. Law. Fit and finish certainly suffered greatly as the war went on; but my observation is that this usually is most noticeable in late 1944 and 1945 K98ks. But even as early as 1942 (if I recall correctly), the Germans did start making tweaks to the individual components in an attempt to start saving production time.
Hi, I just bought a Yugo M24/47 Mauser. I knew I wasn’t getting the real thing, but overall, I’m happy because I’m getting a Mauser that I can shoot without guilt. I do have some questions. My rifle has no visible import markings. Do you know where they would be if not at the end of the rifle? Or does this mean it was imported before ‘68? I notice that my standard serial number is stamped on the barrel but it appears again with a V in front of it on the other side of the barrel with a different method of engraving, not sure if that’s relevant but I thought it was odd to put it in the same barrel twice on opposite sides. My next question is about serial numbers. Since these are refurbished, there is a standard serial number on all gun parts when it was made at the Prejudice 44 plant. There are other serial numbers; one on the plate below the action, one on the side of the bolt handle, and a N808 number on the butt stock. Am I right in assuming those numbers are the original serial numbers from the original Serbian made Belgian model M24’s those parts came from? Do you happen to know where the stocks stamped with an N serial number originally came from? The wood finish look like walnut.
You are above my skill set on all the markings. However. The import marking on those is usually on the barrel behind the front sight. It is often very light
Being an owner of all those it’s good to see some one sharing some good down and dirty general knowledge to protect people from unscrupulous gun dealers. Just good old fashion listen up! Thank you! 👍👍🙌
I would pay the same for all of them. No more, no less. Unless its a J.P. Sauer K98k Mauser CE 44 - WWII Stamped. Which, I already have along with the Yugo & Czech rifles,
@@psp1921tsmg the Yugo KAR98K I bought 2 years ago had the waffenampts on most of the small parts and some of the waffenampts scattered around the gun had the same numbers on like 4 parts. But the stock on mine is a early war hardwood walnut stock with a very good amount of Dirty Birds on it still.
hey boss great video, i was just given a 24/47 by my grandfather but its in pretty tarnished because it was just sitting in a garage for god knows how long. i noticed it has small amounts of rust in the rifling. i couldnt see the rest of the inside of the barrel but i assume its in the same shape throughout. my question is, if i get someone to clean it really well, should i be safe to shoot it?
@@psp1921tsmg the rifling looks sharp still but it definitely needs to be professionally cleaned lol. Also, any leads for a bolt assembly somewhere? 😂 i forgot to mention that it doesn’t have a bolt at all. I’ve looked where I could and all I found is something I’ve put bid on at eBay for a ridiculous amount of $200. It’s the only one I was able to find in stock online.
The preduzece 44 Mod 98 is actually a real Kar98k wich is reworked, so they where basicly just overhauled but everything stayed original, the only changed the stamp on the reciever. I have one with all matching serial numbers and all the WaA stamps are still on it, only on the receiver is a yugo coat of arms. I really like this gun, it is in nearly perfect condition, except the stock wich is a bit worn off but still good and i only payed 400€ for it just because it was restampt. If i would have bought a Kar98k with all orginal stamps on it in same condition i would have paid like 1500€ and for a medium one arround 1000€. So yeah you said everything wich is important.
The 44 model 90 eights are quality guns, of course because they’re German and they were cherry picked by the Hugos to be the best survive and copies but then they marked off all the German markings which reduces the value by 2/3 here in the US
I had a czech mauser k 98, not sure if it was a scrubbed one or postwar. It had that big winter trigger guard, absolutely no German markings. Laminated red stock. One piece nosecap. To this day, i still wonder. It was exactly a k 98 in every way but no markings but czech brno.
From what I’ve read. Belgian contract guns were first and then Yugoslavia started making their on 24s. But I can’t seem to get a definite number or date.
My M48 does not have the "A" after the M48 stamping. It has import markings but no other alterations that I can tell. It is a very nice shooter (better and more accurate than my 1944 K98). The crest and S/N appear original. What do I have here?
I recently bought an old South West African Mauser...indicating "Waffenfabric-Mauser Oberndorf n/a" Doesn't look nearly as any Mauser I have seen before...someone interresting in ID it flr me?
I have the 24/47, all the marking are right, but I thought it was a 7mm so I bought 7mm it shot great, but then learned it was 8mm, they also shot great, my question is will 7mm cause any problems to my gun????
Bought a yugo capture k98k Jus like yours. When i took it apart. Theres a balken cross(Wehrmacht) stamp on it. Has anyone else seen this on they’re 98k’s???
Sadly these excellently made rifles had their reputation marred because of those who wanted to pass them off for what they are not. But great rifles they are, and perhaps that confusion is fortunate because it seems to have kept their prices down compared to others. Mine was bought in almost un-issued condition. It shoots wonderfully, takes a variety of milsurp ammo like a champ. And while they didn't see combat at the time they were made, they are still a weapon of the cold war and part of the swan song of bolt action military firearms, much like the Mosin M44.
@@psp1921tsmg Gun Broker listings are all about clickbait, e.g. "Mosin Nagant 91/30 59 44" all in one, lol. These days there's no excuse for not doing one's homework. So much information that's easy to find and organized.
@@psp1921tsmg agreed, and it's important to educate. Thank goodness now it's much harder to get duped, unless one is lazy and in a rush, gripped by the fear of missing out.
About 20 years ago, I sighted in a $100.00 Turk Mauser that I found for a workmate. It produced a 3 shot sub 1" group at 100 yards with Turk 7.92 x 57. Don't forget to thoroughly clean the firing pin channel on Mausers with old Cosmoline or grease, as this can slow down the firing pin and cause dry fires. You must use a bronze tooth brush dipped in solvent. Pour hot water down barrel at the breach end to wash out any primer salts before cleaing the barrel-John in Texas
I also knew that these m48s were not k98s i found a pristine m48 matching # mitchels mouser great shooter and thats all i wanted it for paid 400 worth every penny ps i only run non corrosive as i reload my own ammo with modern primers and powder
@@psp1921tsmg I think RUclips may have removed me previous comment with a link to the rifle on GunBroker. It looks clean, no cosmoline. However no pictures of the bore. Reading more of the description. He says it has not been issued since it was last arsenaled and the bore is good....but not pictures
@@psp1921tsmg You are right. With shipping, FFL transfer fee, I am paying closer to 800 than 700. Probably a reason there are no bids. Thank you very much for replying and providing insight.
Have no idea what you got from here, but I assume that most of yugo mausers are not new but used either in yugo wars back in 1991-95 or were used by reservists prior to the war, however we had also a lot of mauser guns in storage, It may be also a new one's. About the difference in the wood on yugo mauser, it is because yugoslavia bought a Belgian license for mauser prior to the WW2 and continue to produce them after WW2. Fun fact yugo mauser produced after WW2 are half German namely Yugoslavia got German machineries for Mauser as well as for MG 42 as part of German reparations
@@psp1921tsmg Totally. I got a freshly carved out of the cosmoline crate Yugo M24/47 for 350 the other week. It had a mirror bore and cleaned up really nice. Shoots around 2 moa with surplus.
Hi Scott my name is Joe, Can I ask a favor of you? I have a specimen of one of these LOL! But I am not sure what model, It looks like it had some one that in the past tried to sporterize this poor thing it has no markings of any except WZ 29 on the receiver housing and a few numbers on the bolt and some on the floor plate it has the stock for the bent bolt cut out and sling , and firing pin disassembly hole yet it has a straight bolt? The stock appears to have been cut down long ago. So what i am asking is if i sent you pictures could you help me in identifying it? I have some new brass and some speer 150 grain Spitzers ready to reload but I want to be sure of what I have first this thing has been sitting in the back of the safe for over 40 years when I came across for a trade back in the day. So if you could help please return a message and I will send pics thank you Joe.
Wz-29 is a polish radom built Mauser No markings means it was probably a Spanish civil war gun. Check out my video on polish mausers. 150 grain should work well
@@psp1921tsmg Thank you mine appears to be the scrub Spanish no markings one with a cavalry sling stock The wood is as you said but shortened stock I am giving it a good cleaning and going to load up some fresh ammo for it, I hope it shoots as straight as yours Thank You Joe.
My friend is willing to sell me Yugoslavian m48 where can I send you pictures? so you can tell me more less the value and what do you think I think it’s the third one of of the ones in the video
"They're not collectible" .... I guess it depends on what you're collecting. It also depends on when you say it. Another 20 or 30 years and they absolutely will be collectible. Not everyone that's looking for a mid-century mauser is looking for a German gun. Personally, I don't own a gun I won't shoot. Personally, I collect "interesting" guns. You could also say "wildly impractical" guns (there's a lot of single action revolvers and a desert eagle in there). I appreciate you pointing out that Yugo mausers aren't German but to imply they're junk just isn't accurate. They are, in fact, vintage military rifles built on one of the best actions every invented.
@@psp1921tsmg tito took left over 98ks and redid them .the early ones were only marked TRZ1 on the stock. they needed guns for the army bad after the war.I have collected military guns since 1987
@@psp1921tsmg Ill try. I used to have about 20 yugo 8mm from various time frames. I even had a early one with Peter the 2nd stamp on the stock a model 24. some of the cops I worked with were from there and they liked my collection. last summer after Retirment I sold alot to various collectors. I kept my M24/47 and the TRZ1.
Check forgotten weapons video, Zastava did not have differsnt serial numbers, it had ID number and a serial number fam (wierd i know) Please do some research before claiming stuff like that, also M48s were made after Germany gave Yugoslavia their kar 98k manufacturing machines as a way to pay some of the war damages so its not a bootleg copy, it was done on the original 98k machines from Germany. Now how do I know that? Well I know people here in Croatia that worked on those bad boys back in Yugoslavia, same goes for m53 which was made using MG42 machines and measurements given to Yugoslavia by Germany after WW2. Hope you learned something lads ❤❤
Whether the Germans were forced to give k98 machines. The m48 and the m48a are not k98 designs. Further since you are not familiar with us import regulation. If the series of imported firearms contains numbers that repeat or contain some non English symbols the importer is required to engrave an applied number Also importers often use an applied serial number so they can report the serial number range to the ATF. That’s why I called it an applied serial number as that is what the ATF demands. I’m not referring to how the guns were made. I’m referring to how the guns are found and sold in the unites states. How smart you are often is affected by where you are standing. I don’t expect someone not from the US to understand convoluted US gun control requirements
One quieation, say you did realise that they are not german guns, ok well you just likee it and at least if you bought it because you love rifles, does it shoot well is it accurate the face that its not made in germany. Thats the most important thing, will it shoot well and its accurate. Good vid you did, makes you be more patient before yiu but old rifles.🤜🤛
@@psp1921tsmg I have seen those Mitchell Mausers sold over $1200 sometimes. I wonder if the sellers are similar to the ones you have mentioned in this video. I have been looking for a BRNO VZ-24 but they are hard to find.
@@psp1921tsmg if they can talk every M-24 could tell some horror story, these have seen lot of crap, in Balkans no quarters were given to nazis and vice versa
So you actually didn’t watch the video through? Or any of the other in the series? Is a sanitized 98. It’s just not worth the price of a 98 with dirty birds.
Please do realize that this fellow is talking collector value. He doesn't want you to pay for a gun "that was at Stalingrad" when in fact it was made 5 or 6 years later. But if you want a good shooter, I'd love to own any one of those frankly. But I would not represent them as collector's items.
Unfortunately, in the gun business around me and in my experience traveling across the country, it is common to have other guns that are not true k98 represented as World War II Nazi guns and “World War II captured gun” is placed on a post war Mauser. May be a good shooter but not worth ww2 German prices
But yugo m48 was made with German machines,confiscate by Russia and given to Yugoslavia. So m48 is high quality Master , even better then late stamped production of k98k
Better? No I don’t think so unless you only include the last couple months of the war. In addition the 48 is a 1924 style receiver not a k98 length receiver
@@psp1921tsmg i am thinking of last series of k98k, they did not have time and steel in the last days. I have new milled m48 and genuine milled k98k byf, quality is same. No difference(except upper wooden handguard and shorter bolt on m48). Same machine produced both of them. Preduzeće44 is zastava factory,200 years of expirience, very skilled machinists work there. You all love m70ab2,same factory. And you pronaunce it very bad, not even close. Sorry on my bed English
If you buy a German K98 (a, ab or K) chances are the bore may well be wore or nearly shot out.... One of the very best Mauser Karbiner build was by DWM (1937) on the Portuguese contract. It not a K98K...but its built quality is very fine ..UK Ryton Arms imported a vast amount in 1990s.. There out three... Check em out
When I bought my Yugo M48 I did a lot of research on the platform, and you are so right. The Yugo does differ from the 98k in some important ways. My Yugo M48 is real shooter.
First foremost it is a 3/4 action not full mauser it is a great gun I had 3 brand new loved them
Mine too. I deer hunt with mine
A million thanks for your great advice SIR.
Love Mauser’s and love learning about them all the time and any time I can. Thank you for doing what you do!
Ten years ago I bought a Yugo rework Kar98k for $250 and I love it. Beater German marked 98ks were going for $500 at the time. Now the Yugo rifles are going for triple that price in some cases and you can't touch a German marked rifle for less than $1,000. I'm glad I got mine when I did. It might not be as collectible but it still scratches the same itch.
Depends on your definition of "collectible".
Got my yugo capture 98k 4 yrs ago for 600$. & still going up
Saw a yugo at a gun show yesterday and the guy was doing the very same thing you talk about in this video. Putting German ammo next to it and trying to pass off as a 98
The 24 47 is an excellent rifle. Very good quality.
Agreed. I have four.
Thank-you for the detailed review on the Yugo's! Details I did not know!
fantastic video. i learned quite a bit.
Bought a m48 plain all matching and three boxes of ppu ammo for 425 beans 2 years ago. Best shooter/deer gun I've ever had
Yep. If you get a fair price they are a joy to shoot
Appreciate it - been looking to get a Mauser as a shooter so this helps me out.
i have a mauser. its an argentine mauser that was sporterized by sears in the 1920s i believe. they cut down the original stock, but didnt touch the crest or any numbers and there are no import markings. it was rechambered in and marked as 30-06. its a gorgeous numbers matching rifle with all the belgium markings. when i bought it i really just wanted the action for a custom rifle, but then i fell in love with it as is.
Argentina Mauser I have ..not rechambed
Many weren't rechambered they were rebarreled
I've a like new rebuilt M24/47, along with an M48 with a milled floor plate. All three of my Turk Mausers are much more finely machined than the Yugo models, but they are all nice guns-John in Texas
I have a German k98k yugo rebuild I bought in 2014 for $399 I thought that was a decent deal considering the refurbished parts looked very nice ,I took it apart and was able to trace it to a 1943 byf or Mauser manufacture,I’m really like it I don’t feel bad taking it out and shooting it ..and ya I see lots of guys buying the m48 thinking they are getting a ww2 gun …great video
I will never really call any military surplus “non collectors items” none of these guns are being produced anymore and they will all continue to gain value. Just look at the Russian 91/30’s that were called “garbage rods back in the 90’s and 00’s they now go for $500 all the time. I will always view and millsurp rifle as a collectible, mausers most of all
Boy, I learned so much from your video. I have the 24/47 with Century Arms markings and it is a very accurate rifle. I bought it fairly cheap many years ago because I love the old World War II firearms. I am not a collector and would never spend my hard-earned cash on an original Mauser. I thank you for informing us on what is real and what is not real. As you know, there are a lot of A**holes out there who will rip us off and do. I am not ashamed to admit that I have been taken myself, but it comes with the territory if I don't do my research properly. Your video cuts to the chase and has helped me figure out what to look for if I ever want to buy another one. Thank you and have a great day.
I have a 24/47 Mauser. I removed the rear sight and put a Weaver 4X scout scope on it. This rifle will put six rounds on target, one hundreds yards away, in a hole that you can cover with a dime! This is the straightest shooting rifle that I have ever owned!
My all matching Yugo M48 cost me 500 about a year and a half ago. I love it, I reload for it, I wish it fit under my pillow. German K98's go for too much nowadays. I might pay 1000 for an RC but even that would be a stretch for me. Thank you for the video, it is very easy to get beat on the Mausers. Between their history, variations and popularity.
Please no more than 800 for a absolute pristine one
I payed about 150 dollars for Yugo m48 and I am very happy for it
@@phantom6179 nice. I got one this year for around 450
Awesome video!
This video is two years old now. If only the prices on everything Mauser - or just almost everything surpluss for that matter - were still as you think they should be.
Got my M48 Yugo 21years ago for $95. I knew exactly what it was when I found it at a show, this is the first I've heard of them being passed off as K98s. To bad, the 48 is still a great gun and that $95 was the best gun money I ever spent. Especially since folks like Badace Tactical have fabricated some great items for simple modification.
Wow!... I didn't know this... Thank you!
I never buy on impulse. I notice something that interests me and do research, and learn about the things. I have Swedish, Chilean, YugM48, K98. and I always got them at a good price..
I just picked myself up an m24/47 on sale from Cabela's gun library for $360 in service grade condition pretty much knowing what I'm paying for, I am happy to have it in my wanna be collection, especially considering some knot head across town I seen earlier that day had the same exact thing in his shop trying to hawk it for $950 and telling me well and well that about blah blah blah, glad I went on down to Cabela's in that instant, no one there trying to blow sunshine up me im not wanting to hear.
Great info thanks
I have both a m48 & m24.
The m24 is better quality with milled rather than some pressed parts.
As a left hander the straight bolt works better for me as well and cycles super smoothly.
The m48 looks great though with the steel but plate & k98 style gun strap.
It’s nice to have both!
A k98, forget about it. With today’s prices that ship has sailed!
I think you’re right about K 98 so I think they’re selling Portuguese contract ones which aren’t even marked with dirty birds for $1500
20 years ago I went looking for a K98. The gunshop I went to had about a dozen Russian captures that looked like a T34 ran over them. Even then the prices were $1000 or more. In the same rack was a M48 for $299. I bought that, and then learned it was a Mitchell's Mauser. I don't really care, as I was looking for a shooter not a collectible, and it is a damned good rifle.
1000 bucks 20 years ago for RCs? Sounds a bit off to me. About 20 years ago I bougth four RC's from J&G in Presscott Arizona for 229 a piece - with tax. They all looked like they'd been thru a war - who'd a thought it! But they were all great shooters. I had some economic dificulties in 17 and had to sell three of them. I kept the best one and will never part with it.
Yugo mausers have their own history and are great shooters
Yes they are
M48’s are about $700 now. Pretty crazy seeing as they were $400-$500 when this video came out
I recently got one for about 150 dollars
Perfect condition
I paid 400 today for one on Armslist
I think they r all collectors, price r surging on all of those
I bought a Hugo M24 47 20 years ago when they just started importing them the thing was like brand new apparently it was packed away for 45 or 50 years no it's not a k98 but that gun is a nice gun smooth action accuracy is good and it was built on Belgian tooling say what you will, I paid $139 for that gun. Rock Solid gun
As long as you got a fair price you got a good gun
I just ordered a Yugo M48A and paid $319 which makes me very happy - I used to have a nice Mauser collection but had to let them go due to a financial down period.... but I still have all the dies, brass, bullets and some loaded ammo so I wanted to get a good 7.92x57 chambered gun - and so when I saw this one available at a wholesaler, I had to get it. Surprisingly, there is plenty of milsurp 7.92 ammo available right now - Turk, Yugo, and more - the Yugo ammo would be my pick from those two....
That’s a good price if the bore is nice
i got a 98k/48 for 300 but the stock was sporterized other than that the rifle was on pretty solid condition iam spending more in parts to restore it than the amount i paid for it
The cabelas near me has about two dozen Yugo mausers in not good shape for like 500 bucks.
they have all been sitting there for about a year. no one has touched them. Im tempted to haggle and see if i can get one for 250
Mitchell M48 Yugo that was imported back in 1990s all mint and unissued goes for about 1000 today.
Thx for the info... my father left me that exact gun and I was trying to find the value.
My friend is willing to sell me a Yugoslavian m48 where can I send you pictures and you can tell me more or less the volume and which one of the three it is?
Quick note - A lot of those Yugo K98k re-works have new (Yugo) barrels on them. Hence the lack of WW2 German markings on them.
I don't know why the guy cherish so much K98, since K98 had not so good materials used since Nazis luck went downhill.
It depends, if you have a Preduceze 44 mod 98 you have a original Kar98k only with the yugo mariking on the receiver. I have one and on everything exept the receiver are the original WaA stamps and all numbers are matching.
@@robrob9050 every Kar98k before 1943 is really good and has A+ materials. The only thing you should not buy if you want a gun with good materials (except you are collecting them) are late war guns, so 1945 or 1944, but even some 1944 Kar98k are good atleast the onces of the first half of the year. But the steal and so on is still good, the only saved on a few things like like the rings that hold the barrel to the stock (don't know how they are namend in english) and the stock.
@@kuessebrama As to original German barrels remaining on Yugo-reworked rifles: It's certainly possible. My original comment only said that "a lot" of the Yugo re-works have new (Yugo) barrels on them.
@@robrob9050 I prefer not to get into disputes online, but - for what it's worth: I am unaware of any trusted sources that indicate that the German rifle materials truly suffered, in terms of their characteristics, through the end of the war. I'd have to go back and look at the books by Karem & Steves or even R. Law. Fit and finish certainly suffered greatly as the war went on; but my observation is that this usually is most noticeable in late 1944 and 1945 K98ks. But even as early as 1942 (if I recall correctly), the Germans did start making tweaks to the individual components in an attempt to start saving production time.
Hi, I just bought a Yugo M24/47 Mauser. I knew I wasn’t getting the real thing, but overall, I’m happy because I’m getting a Mauser that I can shoot without guilt. I do have some questions. My rifle has no visible import markings. Do you know where they would be if not at the end of the rifle? Or does this mean it was imported before ‘68? I notice that my standard serial number is stamped on the barrel but it appears again with a V in front of it on the other side of the barrel with a different method of engraving, not sure if that’s relevant but I thought it was odd to put it in the same barrel twice on opposite sides. My next question is about serial numbers. Since these are refurbished, there is a standard serial number on all gun parts when it was made at the Prejudice 44 plant. There are other serial numbers; one on the plate below the action, one on the side of the bolt handle, and a N808 number on the butt stock. Am I right in assuming those numbers are the original serial numbers from the original Serbian made Belgian model M24’s those parts came from? Do you happen to know where the stocks stamped with an N serial number originally came from? The wood finish look like walnut.
You are above my skill set on all the markings. However. The import marking on those is usually on the barrel behind the front sight. It is often very light
@@psp1921tsmg thank you for taking the time to respond!
Being an owner of all those it’s good to see some one sharing some good down and dirty general knowledge to protect people from unscrupulous gun dealers. Just good old fashion listen up! Thank you! 👍👍🙌
I would pay the same for all of them.
No more, no less.
Unless its a J.P. Sauer K98k Mauser CE 44 - WWII Stamped.
Which, I already have along with the Yugo & Czech rifles,
Mine has mod.98 and Prod 44 stampings. The stock is closer to the middle Gun, but it does have German proof marks? Any thoughts
I’ve seen some with a one or two proof marks left on small parts. Not on the receiver or barrel. But who knows we are talking communist Yugoslavia.
@@psp1921tsmg the Yugo KAR98K I bought 2 years ago had the waffenampts on most of the small parts and some of the waffenampts scattered around the gun had the same numbers on like 4 parts. But the stock on mine is a early war hardwood walnut stock with a very good amount of Dirty Birds on it still.
@@michaelbenjmitchell1 quite a few of those have had parts changed to put the dirty birds back on it bolts base plates etc by reenactors
@@psp1921tsmg I bought mine at a gunshow and it was a Century Arms import like the other Yugo Mausers.
hey boss great video, i was just given a 24/47 by my grandfather but its in pretty tarnished because it was just sitting in a garage for god knows how long. i noticed it has small amounts of rust in the rifling. i couldnt see the rest of the inside of the barrel but i assume its in the same shape throughout. my question is, if i get someone to clean it really well, should i be safe to shoot it?
Yes it should be ok if it’s just surface rust of it was shoot with corrode ammo and not cleaned properly it may need a new barrel
@@psp1921tsmg the rifling looks sharp still but it definitely needs to be professionally cleaned lol. Also, any leads for a bolt assembly somewhere? 😂 i forgot to mention that it doesn’t have a bolt at all. I’ve looked where I could and all I found is something I’ve put bid on at eBay for a ridiculous amount of $200. It’s the only one I was able to find in stock online.
@@basicallyjayden1 check gun parts corp under either Belgium model 1924 or yugo m48
The preduzece 44 Mod 98 is actually a real Kar98k wich is reworked, so they where basicly just overhauled but everything stayed original, the only changed the stamp on the reciever. I have one with all matching serial numbers and all the WaA stamps are still on it, only on the receiver is a yugo coat of arms. I really like this gun, it is in nearly perfect condition, except the stock wich is a bit worn off but still good and i only payed 400€ for it just because it was restampt. If i would have bought a Kar98k with all orginal stamps on it in same condition i would have paid like 1500€ and for a medium one arround 1000€. So yeah you said everything wich is important.
The 44 model 90 eights are quality guns, of course because they’re German and they were cherry picked by the Hugos to be the best survive and copies but then they marked off all the German markings which reduces the value by 2/3 here in the US
I had a czech mauser k 98, not sure if it was a scrubbed one or postwar. It had that big winter trigger guard, absolutely no German markings. Laminated red stock. One piece nosecap. To this day, i still wonder. It was exactly a k 98 in every way but no markings but czech brno.
If it was Czech it was a vz-24
I was always under the impression that the M24/47 rifles were pre war Yugoslav manufactured rifles that were refurbished post war.
From what I’ve read. Belgian contract guns were first and then Yugoslavia started making their on 24s. But I can’t seem to get a definite number or date.
There was a kingdom yugoslavia and after war peoples republic yugo
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What does that have to do with what was being discussed?
Where can I get one
German K98AZ has the upper handguard between the receiver and the rear sight.
But that is ww1 correct?
@@psp1921tsmg Yes.
would this be a good home defense rifle?
If you live in the country. In the city no. To much penetration from the 8mm round
My M48 does not have the "A" after the M48 stamping. It has import markings but no other alterations that I can tell. It is a very nice shooter (better and more accurate than my 1944 K98). The crest and S/N appear original. What do I have here?
An early model 48 with milled parts like trigger guard
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Thanks! It's a real hoot to shoot!
it still a 1920-1960 mauser guns.. already spicy thing you'vgot in your hands , each guns has there storie
Found a m48 for 400 recently and thinking of buying it
Check the bore closely
There’s a video on RUclips the history of the yugo 24/47
I recently bought an old South West African Mauser...indicating "Waffenfabric-Mauser Oberndorf n/a"
Doesn't look nearly as any Mauser I have seen before...someone interresting in ID it flr me?
I’m not an expert but I can try
I have the 24/47, all the marking are right, but I thought it was a 7mm so I bought 7mm it shot great, but then learned it was 8mm, they also shot great, my question is will 7mm cause any problems to my gun????
Yes shooting under sized bullets can damage the rifling
It's 7.9 mm, not 8 mm, it's precise bussiness
Bought a yugo capture k98k Jus like yours. When i took it apart. Theres a balken cross(Wehrmacht) stamp on it. Has anyone else seen this on they’re 98k’s???
@@juanj24 where is the marking
Sadly these excellently made rifles had their reputation marred because of those who wanted to pass them off for what they are not. But great rifles they are, and perhaps that confusion is fortunate because it seems to have kept their prices down compared to others. Mine was bought in almost un-issued condition. It shoots wonderfully, takes a variety of milsurp ammo like a champ. And while they didn't see combat at the time they were made, they are still a weapon of the cold war and part of the swan song of bolt action military firearms, much like the Mosin M44.
Yep. Only problem is the scammers. I saw one today on gunbroker Said 24/47 same as German k98
@@psp1921tsmg Gun Broker listings are all about clickbait, e.g. "Mosin Nagant 91/30 59 44" all in one, lol. These days there's no excuse for not doing one's homework. So much information that's easy to find and organized.
@@tselinsky6452 yes. But young buyers are often mislead. Which ends up hurting the hobby
@@psp1921tsmg agreed, and it's important to educate. Thank goodness now it's much harder to get duped, unless one is lazy and in a rush, gripped by the fear of missing out.
And a Turkish Mauser is an accurate solid rifle.
Yes they are they are just not worth the money if a ww2 German rifle
About 20 years ago, I sighted in a $100.00 Turk Mauser that I found for a workmate. It produced a 3 shot sub 1" group at 100 yards with Turk 7.92 x 57. Don't forget to thoroughly clean the firing pin channel on Mausers with old Cosmoline or grease, as this can slow down the firing pin and cause dry fires. You must use a bronze tooth brush dipped in solvent. Pour hot water down barrel at the breach end to wash out any primer salts before cleaing the barrel-John in Texas
PREJUDICE 44? :-) ....okay, close enough :-)
I also knew that these m48s were not k98s i found a pristine m48 matching # mitchels mouser great shooter and thats all i wanted it for paid 400 worth every penny ps i only run non corrosive as i reload my own ammo with modern primers and powder
What do you think a good price is for an m24/47 that is unissued? Saw one for sale for 695
Unissued? They are rebuilds. Is it all cleaned as in no cosmoline If it’s close to 100 percent that’s an ok price maybe 50-100 high
@@psp1921tsmg I think RUclips may have removed me previous comment with a link to the rifle on GunBroker. It looks clean, no cosmoline. However no pictures of the bore. Reading more of the description. He says it has not been issued since it was last arsenaled and the bore is good....but not pictures
@@Czar59 Take in account there shipping and transfer fees. I think that’s a little high
@@psp1921tsmg You are right. With shipping, FFL transfer fee, I am paying closer to 800 than 700. Probably a reason there are no bids. Thank you very much for replying and providing insight.
Have no idea what you got from here, but I assume that most of yugo mausers are not new but used either in yugo wars back in 1991-95 or were used by reservists prior to the war, however we had also a lot of mauser guns in storage, It may be also a new one's. About the difference in the wood on yugo mauser, it is because yugoslavia bought a Belgian license for mauser prior to the WW2 and continue to produce them after WW2. Fun fact yugo mauser produced after WW2 are half German namely Yugoslavia got German machineries for Mauser as well as for MG 42 as part of German reparations
I love my Yugo Mauser
They are great guns as long as you don’t pay German Mauser money for them.
@@psp1921tsmg Totally. I got a freshly carved out of the cosmoline crate Yugo M24/47 for 350 the other week. It had a mirror bore and cleaned up really nice. Shoots around 2 moa with surplus.
@@AA-dn8dj sweet and a very good deal in today’s market
@@psp1921tsmg The rifle was a great deal, the surplus ammo? Not so much of a deal hehheh. It's still a bit better than 30-06 prices though.
@@AA-dn8dj avoid Turkish. But if that’s all you can find Turkish will work but your groups will suck.
Ppu is great ammo. But pricey
I have a m 98. All numbers match.
I have a Yugo M24/47 & the nose cap wants to keep popping off. There is not much to hold it on, it's very aggravating.
Do you mean the bayonet lug?
Hi Scott my name is Joe, Can I ask a favor of you? I have a specimen of one of these LOL! But I am not sure what model, It looks like it had some one that in the past tried to sporterize this poor thing it has no markings of any except WZ 29 on the receiver housing and a few numbers on the bolt and some on the floor plate it has the stock for the bent bolt cut out and sling , and firing pin disassembly hole yet it has a straight bolt? The stock appears to have been cut down long ago. So what i am asking is if i sent you pictures could you help me in identifying it? I have some new brass and some speer 150 grain Spitzers ready to reload but I want to be sure of what I have first this thing has been sitting in the back of the safe for over 40 years when I came across for a trade back in the day. So if you could help please return a message and I will send pics thank you Joe.
Wz-29 is a polish radom built Mauser No markings means it was probably a Spanish civil war gun. Check out my video on polish mausers.
150 grain should work well
@@psp1921tsmg Thank you mine appears to be the scrub Spanish no markings one with a cavalry sling stock The wood is as you said but shortened stock I am giving it a good cleaning and going to load up some fresh ammo for it, I hope it shoots as straight as yours Thank You Joe.
Don't all of the military issue M1898 German Mausers have the long range, "Lange Visier", roller coaster rear sight?-John in Texas
Originals yes but some were modernized after the war and look like the vz-98/22
Where would you recommend to look for a m48 to buy?
proxibid or gun broker
@@psp1921tsmg I saw a $399 m48 on royal tiger imports not sure if you’re familiar with them or not?
@@yeganlives7399 yes. I’d search the net to see customer ratings for them before you buy from them
@@psp1921tsmg will do appreciate its just the only one I can find under 500 everyone else is sold out and doubt they will get more anytime soon.
@@yeganlives7399 hey how did that turn out for you I'm about to get the same gun from royal tiger imports
My friend is willing to sell me Yugoslavian m48 where can I send you pictures? so you can tell me more less the value and what do you think I think it’s the third one of of the ones in the video
A md48 is worth 4-600 if it’s nice. They are easy to identify
"They're not collectible" .... I guess it depends on what you're collecting. It also depends on when you say it. Another 20 or 30 years and they absolutely will be collectible. Not everyone that's looking for a mid-century mauser is looking for a German gun. Personally, I don't own a gun I won't shoot.
Personally, I collect "interesting" guns. You could also say "wildly impractical" guns (there's a lot of single action revolvers and a desert eagle in there).
I appreciate you pointing out that Yugo mausers aren't German but to imply they're junk just isn't accurate. They are, in fact, vintage military rifles built on one of the best actions every invented.
I didn’t say they were junk. They are just not worth the cost of German guns
I made a gew. 88 of ebay parts. Good enough if the shtf, not worth anything, but im not paying astronomical amounts for guns they made millions of.
I got a smoking deal on a miss marked M98/K98 that the dealer thought was an M48.
I have a yugo 98 k with all german markings DOU 44 stamped on but TRZ1
If it doesn’t have the prejudice 44 it’s not a yugo. It’s a German k98
@@psp1921tsmg tito took left over 98ks and redid them .the early ones were only marked TRZ1 on the stock. they needed guns for the army bad after the war.I have collected military guns since 1987
@@Moss500. interesting. Can you post a video on it
@@psp1921tsmg Ill try. I used to have about 20 yugo 8mm from various time frames. I even had a early one with Peter the 2nd stamp on the stock a model 24. some of the cops I worked with were from there and they liked my collection. last summer after Retirment I sold alot to various collectors. I kept my M24/47 and the TRZ1.
“This isn’t even German” 😭
Check forgotten weapons video, Zastava did not have differsnt serial numbers, it had ID number and a serial number fam (wierd i know)
Please do some research before claiming stuff like that, also M48s were made after Germany gave Yugoslavia their kar 98k manufacturing machines as a way to pay some of the war damages so its not a bootleg copy, it was done on the original 98k machines from Germany.
Now how do I know that? Well I know people here in Croatia that worked on those bad boys back in Yugoslavia, same goes for m53 which was made using MG42 machines and measurements given to Yugoslavia by Germany after WW2.
Hope you learned something lads ❤❤
Whether the Germans were forced to give k98 machines. The m48 and the m48a are not k98 designs. Further since you are not familiar with us import regulation. If the series of imported firearms contains numbers that repeat or contain some non English symbols the importer is required to engrave an applied number Also importers often use an applied serial number so they can report the serial number range to the ATF. That’s why I called it an applied serial number as that is what the ATF demands.
I’m not referring to how the guns were made. I’m referring to how the guns are found and sold in the unites states.
How smart you are often is affected by where you are standing. I don’t expect someone not from the US to understand convoluted US gun control requirements
One quieation, say you did realise that they are not german guns, ok well you just likee it and at least if you bought it because you love rifles, does it shoot well is it accurate the face that its not made in germany. Thats the most important thing, will it shoot well and its accurate. Good vid you did, makes you be more patient before yiu but old rifles.🤜🤛
How about Mitchell’s Mausers? Are they real?
Seldom. They were known for fake markings
@@psp1921tsmg I have seen those Mitchell Mausers sold over $1200 sometimes. I wonder if the sellers are similar to the ones you have mentioned in this video. I have been looking for a BRNO VZ-24 but they are hard to find.
Machine gun primers.
I think you are wrong, M48 was locally produced not German markings scratched.
M48 is post war. The yugo 98 is a sanitized k98
@@psp1921tsmg You think on M1924 ? AFAK these were produced by license from FN Belgium , nothing to do with Mauser actually.
@@robrob9050 the m-24 is a great rifle if the example your looking at has not been destroyed by heavy use
@@psp1921tsmg if they can talk every M-24 could tell some horror story, these have seen lot of crap, in Balkans no quarters were given to nazis and vice versa
It’s not pronounced “prejudice” it’s preduzece
That’s as close as I can get with my Pittsburgh accent.
@@psp1921tsmg lol just giving you a hard time. Good video 👍🏻
I never paid more than $60 for those
Yeah. Those days are gone
@@psp1921tsmg That was around 1993, but I bought some really nice VZ-24's at a gunshow for $50 about 2003, then Turkish M98's for $50 around 2015
Stop with the its not a 98, they are 98 intermediate length auctioned rifle. Try saying its not a German K98k.
So you actually didn’t watch the video through? Or any of the other in the series? Is a sanitized 98. It’s just not worth the price of a 98 with dirty birds.
Sir 8mm is much heavier too much powerful cartridge
Got a m48 for $70
When
Preduzece 44 (Plant 44) not Prejudice 44 for god's sake! ;-)
Hey. I can barely speak English let alone another language
@@psp1921tsmg Haha, same with me and English..heavy Eastern Europe sort of pronunciation, terrible
Just get Russian Capture, Glass bed the stock and call it a day.
Please do realize that this fellow is talking collector value. He doesn't want you to pay for a gun "that was at Stalingrad" when in fact it was made 5 or 6 years later. But if you want a good shooter, I'd love to own any one of those frankly. But I would not represent them as collector's items.
Unfortunately, in the gun business around me and in my experience traveling across the country, it is common to have other guns that are not true k98 represented as World War II Nazi guns and “World War II captured gun” is placed on a post war Mauser. May be a good shooter but not worth ww2 German prices
My K98 was used by Hitler and had Blood stained pitting on it. I got it for 96,000 dollars.
You got a steal
But yugo m48 was made with German machines,confiscate by Russia and given to Yugoslavia. So m48 is high quality Master , even better then late stamped production of k98k
Better? No I don’t think so unless you only include the last couple months of the war. In addition the 48 is a 1924 style receiver not a k98 length receiver
@@psp1921tsmg i am thinking of last series of k98k, they did not have time and steel in the last days. I have new milled m48 and genuine milled k98k byf, quality is same. No difference(except upper wooden handguard and shorter bolt on m48). Same machine produced both of them. Preduzeće44 is zastava factory,200 years of expirience, very skilled machinists work there. You all love m70ab2,same factory. And you pronaunce it very bad, not even close. Sorry on my bed English
They are the same in quality.
If you want something German. Nobody is alive anymore from the war, what’s the big deal
Collector value. If you’re not aware of collector value of ww2 German weapons be careful when purchasing
anyone who would pay more than $100 for these old bolt action turds is nuts.........I dont care where and when they were made.
But muh history
$750.00 where I live
Ok
If you buy a German K98 (a, ab or K) chances are the bore may well be wore or nearly shot out....
One of the very best Mauser Karbiner build was by DWM (1937) on the Portuguese contract.
It not a K98K...but its built quality is very fine ..UK Ryton Arms imported a vast amount in 1990s..
There out three...
Check em out
Centerfire has a bunch right now for like 1500 each