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What If Goku STAYED DEAD?
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- What if Goku STAYED DEAD after the Cell Games?
When we analyze Dragon Ball, Goku's presence has often come into question. Is life better without Goku? What if Goku never returned to life? What if Goku stayed dead forever? This video covers the Goku dead theory and analyzes it's impact on dragon ball history. This ranges from a deep anime theory covering life without Goku's existence. Qaaman breaks down this Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super ,Dragon Ball GT anime and manga theory about Goku's death today.
Didn't Vegeta want to enter before Goku said he'd go? I could swear Vegeta originally wanted to enter to prove he surpassed Gohan
He already knew Gohan was lacking on train them 7 years so he didn’t care about the tournament
yes fax
@@treztrigga Vegeta said in Kai before Goku was even mentioned "I think I will enter the tournament as well. I have a theory that I want to test. You may have surpassed me years ago but I think I can beat you now" it was something like that
What if Qaaman's channel was dead
None of us would be ok
Miss you uploading more frequently Quinn. You got some of the best dragon ball content on the platform bro!!!!
Quality over quantity buddy
The impact would have been great. Missing him will make him a great memory.
If Goku haven't returned to earth that one day, there wouldn't be a Gotenks.
@Trap IOS piccolo didn't know
@DragonGod160 If Kami knew about the Fusion Dance, the Saiyan Saga(Post Raditz) would have gone much differently.
@DaddyGrimmjow and also Piccolo in the Fusion Saga didnt know about the Fusion Dance, he only knew about Namekian fusion not Metamoran Fusion
I’ll never get bored of qaamans what if’s
Thanks.
Qaaman no problem. I’ve been watching your videos since 2013 and I was 9 years old at the time and still watching them.
@@QaamansLand you said much weaker competition like who? Ranfan or Nam?
As for Resurrection F. I feel like, Friezas motivation to Train was, him hearing that Goku killed Buu. So IF Frieza came back, Gohan and Co. would have no problem dealing with him.
Even if Goku was dead and never killed Buu and Frieza somehow got resurrected he would still train because of Sobets influence and because of what already has happened before along with the fact that he said he was rusty himself plus Frieza is not stupid why would he do the same thing over again
My whole argument, Goku's existence brings trouble, he was dead for 7 years and not a fucking peep of anyone trying to rule or steal dragonballs or anything. It just would have been peaceful that's all.
my argument: nope. Zeno kills all if Goku remained dead. he was planning on destroying the weaker universes anyway
So what do you agree and disagree with most in this video?
Good video and content, different perspective, I think the adventure of the dead guy takes off. We start seeing shit in other world we never thought we would. Hell, we might get demon realm honestly.
jahnel simpson i would of pefered a other world arc a full one with Goku then we go to the buu saga. Kind of letting Goku explore maybe see a bit of how he became ssj3 or at least who he trained under the past 7 years which would of led up to ssj3. I think it would of been a super cool saga.
jahnel simpson but still if all peaceful that would make dragonball very boring
Nice video but you’re wrong about vegeta participating in the tournament because of goku. Vegeta wanted to fight in the tournament to test his power against gohan who was considered the strongest at the time. Then goku announced that he would fight too which got vegeta even more excited. I personally wanted to see vegeta fight gohan in the tournament that would’ve been dope
With all due respect you are wrong friend. Vegeta himself said it was Goku that pushed him.
If you have evidence please show me.
I respect that we can disagree respectfully
Qaaman
www.mangareader.net/dragon-ball/427/3
Qaaman Episode 205 if you prefer anime. Vegeta says that he will enter to test his power against gohan
Zeektv is correct. After Vegeta says that he, too, will enter, Goku suddenly speaks up and says that he will be allowed to come back for one day to compete. So Vegeta was going to enter before Goku even said he was coming back
Danny waters yeah I remember now.
great what if
i dont think zeno would forget. The reason why the tournament happened was because he wanted to erase everything. The tournament option was the thing that prevented him to do it. If there was no U6 arc, Zeno would have wanted to erase the universes and... he would have done it instantaneously.
not isnsisnt there wa no u6 arc in turnks timlien did zneo erase thing rightt way no
He could've perfected ssj3 like he did regular ssj in the time chamber him an gohan.
If Goku Stayed dead then Chi Chi would need a sugar daddy to fill that puh puh
Someone needs to pound her tuna someone has to do it now that goku isnt here
Enter yamcha
Ben She moaned Gohans name tho
This ought to be a 'what if'
i see a bunch of hentai watchers
I smiled when he said “what about Gt” thank u Quaaman u made my day
You're welcome but why?
Qaaman probably because some people liked gt and most people don’t talk about it and just trash the series
Then Dragonball Z would have been better. Gohan should have became the Hero.
you mean vegeta. vegeta did all the work dealing with Dabura, and then Beerus after that.
Radius Jordan yeah no
Radius Jordan you are correct at least super could have been better rather than the goku show
gavin .l yea I like Goku but as a character he got a lot worse in Super!
Gohan is boring. Db would then be a high school drama
Finally something from Detective Q, been waiting too long
The True King of DB What If, unlike that guy that copies you and does off the walls what ifs
Thanks but who are you referring to?
@@QaamansLand Gokut23
I’m so happy you uploaded again! Can you do a what if Gohan continues training after the Cell games?
In my head, the Buu saga is a separate anime/show. I despise the saga so much but when I think about it in that separate way, I enjoy it for what it is. Goku should’ve stayed dead and maybe come back for super that’s it. I’m not saying Gohan be the hero but it would’ve been better seeing everyone else try and survive just imagine all the possibilities and more screen time for others! Bringing Goku back was the easy way out. Still love Goku though nonetheless.
How was it the easy way out?
@Sonic But how would Buu hatch anyways.
no I t wont the eb no fusion no noting japen fans like goku and airk ihm sle gohan nto fit take goku palce
@@QaamansLand I felt like it could have been recovery
My days are always better when I see these what if’s thank you quaaman!!
I wish you'd upload more often since I love your content.
Keep up the awesome work man. 👍
I love how you structure your videos, makes it so exciting and easy to follow. Good job
Then Chi Chi and Bulma would tag team the universe. Gohan is useless and everyone is else is weak.
how is he useless? and considering dabura is no match for vegeta, the earth is safe either way
@Qaaman You missed out on some certain key points in your video that I think were crucial to bring up. 1. Gotenks would never have existed, 2. No one would have ever known Ssj3 was a thing, 3. the bond between everyone would have been A lot weaker in my opinion because there would be no reason for everyone to get together and see each other again, 4. ultimate/ mystic Gohan wouldn't exist because the elder would have never unlocked Gohan's full potential, 5. The idea of potara fusion would have never been known about so Kabito kai and vegito wouldn't exist, 6. the relationship with Mr. satan and the Z-fighters would have been A lot weaker and insignificant, 7. Fusion Reborn might not have happened at all or it would have been a different version/style of it, and I think the most important point is would all the Z-fighters be stronger,weaker, or the same without Goku coming back to earth? I hope you get the chance to look at this @Qaaman and maybe respond back to this because I would love to hear your input on it. P.S. I have been a fan and have been following you for at least 5+ years. I enjoy watching the videos you put out.
*Broly, he would spend the rest of his life being tarzan*
.... I mean your not wrong lol.
That was a cool what if
Oooh oooh, but Goku stayed dead forever, Veget would have never gone Majin, as you pointed out, BUT that whole schpeel changed Vegeta, having a major impack on his character. He still trained a lot during those 7 years that Goku was dead. Bulma comments on that and how little he helps out around the house. She also comments that he's changed and there's been something different since he fought Buu. That arc has a HUGE impact on Vegeta's character/personality.
Also, the Universe 6 Saiyans also wouldn't have ever gone Super Saiyan if the Tournament of Destroyers never happened, which happened because of Goku.
We'd have no Fusion at all, which I know a LOT of people loved abou the Buu saga and is some of their favorite parts of DBZ. I know you touched on that but yeah, no Gotenks either. I can't remember if you included him. Gohan also wouldn't have gotten that power up from Elder Kai either. Granted, long run that didn't really make a difference but Mystic Gohan was pretty darn cool.
One last thing, let's say Gohan and jumped in and stopped (pardon the spelling) Spokavich before he had beaten Videl to the point where she had to be hospitalized and was able to continue fighting in the tournament, maybe Mr. Satan would have lost to his own kid. That would have been kind of funny. I mean, he could play it off as he let his daughter win because she's his kid, wanted to pass the reigns down to her, etc. but Videl probably would have realized that she's actually a lot stronger than her dad and that could have changed things on her end.
you are whining about things we "didnt get to see" but this is based purely on how things logically play out. obviosuly toriyama if he kept Goku dead would have introduced something else going wrong that would create a reason for all those elements to come into play.
Qaaman has returned hurray
Qaaman back at it again with the what ifs! I love that shit!!!
Havent watched yet but ik its going to be a banger
Nice video quaaman you always make great videos
Clicked this instantly once I seen a video from qaaman 💯💯💪🏾💪🏾
Classic Qaaman land storytelling
Qaaman with the 5head 200IQ
5Head? What is that?
Quality work Qaaman great job 💪👍
QAAMAN IS BACK!!!!!
Vegeta would still go to the tournament because he wanted to fight Gohan to prove to himself that he is now more powerful than him, and only he later shifted his focus to Goku when Goku said he was coming there, and Vegeta would never miss a chance to watch his son beat Kakarot's son, Piccolo would certainly not compete because in the original scenario Gohan called him because of Goku, and in this new scenario only Vegeta would be present. Then at the tournament it would probably happen that Gohan rushes to save Vidal, and the Supreme Kai stops him, Vegeta would ask what is happening and after listening to the explanation Vegeta would be interested in the story of the whole situation, so he might follow the Supreme Kai because he would be curious. Piccolo would appear after he would have felt that Gohan fell from the Super Saiyan power level close to death, and Kibito would inform him about everything so Piccolo and Gohan would go with him, and catch up with the Supreme Kai followed by Vegeta. Then they would easily agree on who would fight whom, regardless of whether Piccolo would have better reflexes in avoiding the spit because Vegeta would definitely fight Dabura and Boo wouldn't happen at all. Now as far as the tournament is concerned it can happen as explained in the video, but it can also be said that Goten and Trunks would be more curious of what is happening when they see Piccolo fly out of nowhere, and go together with Gohan in the direction where Vegeta flew away, so they would probably not stay and would go after the others, and they would be disqualified like the others who flew away so Mr Satan would beat the other contestants because they were nothing special. When Beerus appears here Vegeta would not be a family man, and as peaceful as when Beerus appeared in the original scenario, because this time he still has that anger towards Goku, and Vegeta did not overpower him and win the fight as he wanted against him while Goku was alive, and when Beerus appears Vegeta would be more arrogant here and provoke Beerus because he was the one who embarrassed his father's royal blood, and at this time Vegeta thinks that he must have surpassed Goku and Gohan in strength, so King Kai's warning wouldn't mean anything even if it happened in this scenario because Vegeta doesn't know how strong Goku is, and the conflict between him and Beerus would happen all the same, Vegeta would lose and Beerus would destroy the planet Earth out of frustration, and disappointment so everything would be destroyed. Zamasu wanted to destroy all mortals because of the Future Trunks and his time travel, so the only thing that would be different would be that Zamasu would possess someone else's body or he would be doing everything in his own body, we only don't know when he would start his plan, but Goku was not the reason for his plan, but just an example of the powerful body that Zamasu wanted to have as his sword to make his plan succeed, or he would just wish for immortality and his plan would work, which means that Future Trunks has failed as well as his future.
Ahh, the quality content I’ve been waiting for.
❤️ glad to see you back bro
I never left.
Your vocabulary words is on point detective Quinn and so is your Spectacular/amazing voice! P.S. why'd you get rid of Q&A videos on your channel?
What vocabulary specifically?
@@QaamansLand Qaaman Qaaman Qaaman Qaaman Qaaman Qaaman LANDS OH MY GOSH! Okay 😊 well... I'm just giving you a good compliment for great results and effort to your video.
The vocabulary words you use was: blackmail, composure, intimidation, tactic, reputation, financial, slim, and terms...
Been while since Qaaman upload video
What’s the soothing music at the end of the video?
At what timestamp?
Qaaman 12:19
I was just about to wish you and blackenfist and dragonball nation back to life lol
Hey Quaman, got a What If for ya. During the Namek saga, how does Z change if Piccolo not only absorbed Nail, but because he was eventually going to pass, Guru asked Piccolo to absorb his as well
Vegeta would have still joined. He mentioned fighting Gohan until goku chimed in saying he was gonna enter too. That made vegeta excited.
Majin Vegeta would've still existed if he witnessed Gohan being weaker than he was in the Cell saga, since that disappointment and frustration made him angry enough to land on Babidis radar
I highly doubt Zeno would just forget to erase a universe with one of the lowest rankings in the multiverse.
If buu never exists doesn't that mean hercule dies to that robber?
Why would Hercule die to the robber?
Remember Buu found a puppy which led to all of that.
@@radicallaruby Yes but if buu doesn't exist that wouldn't happen
Vegeta already decided to join because gohan was stronger than him in the cell saga, then right after that they hear goku’s voice saying “I’ll join too”
Please...stay back, we miss your discussions and theories
Thanks bud! Stay tuned for decemeber!
Just want to leave a hello to Qaaman!
When I was watching the dub on tv the first time and gohan blasted cell and didnt become the main character I was ultra salty. Felt like I got robbed along with gohan. Q.qforever.
Abuut Butt me 2
Meh, I don't know. 18 could still have found out that Gohan was entering the WMAT and get the idea of her and Krillin entering too for the price money. It's a possibility.
But what would have happened IF Bobbity was still able to gather enough energy and Buu was still eventually released? Granted, it would have taken longer but wouldn't that still be a possible outcome. After all Goten and Trunks are supposed to have all of these great potential too. Just some thoughts that popped into my head from watching this.
Good video all the same. And straight to the points.
You should consider doing what if Majin Vegeta didn't knock out Goku , Even though I think it won't affect plot that much
Not much honestly
@@QaamansLand Yeah I thought so too either Goku would convince Vegeta to fuse and beat Buu if he didn't agree Goku would go SSJ 3 and beat Buu either way Goku would have stayed dead , the idea of gotten and Trunks wouldn't have occurred to Goku as it came out of lack of options, if we consider GT baby will destroy everything even though he would appear much later , if we consider Super , beerus would never come to earth and even if he did Majin boo won't be there to piss him off it's only Vegeta and others and when frieza if decided to train ( Depends on how seriously he would consider sorbet , he'll tell same story except Goku is dead so he might not decide to train), he'll destroy everything
Imagine you're fighting a demon and he says "oh dang, I'm outnumbered..." Then starts spitting on you & you make some ' demonic fever blister joke right before you begin turning to stone lol.
So basically nothing bad happens in Super unless Zeno erases the weaker universes. (Wouldn't the ToP still happen? I remember Zeno still wanting too have the Tournament.. Could be wrong tho.)
In GT it's basically over for the Z-fighters in the first arc already. Damn
so basically in super : nothing happens ever and there is no sagas
in gt : everyone gets oofed and there is only 1 saga
I'm curious how you utilize your Qaaman icons in the corner of your thumbnails, I notice different transformations and they seem to be in a pattern 🤔🧐
Tell me what you noticed. They do represent something if you pay close attention.
@@QaamansLand So far all I can really pinpoint is the "Mastered Ultra Instinct" Qaaman to be What if videos, and the "Super Saiyan" Qaamans to be Theories or theoretical videos. The Blue Qaamans seem to be overall series or debate videos. Those are my guesses anyway
Excellent video Qaaman. Proving Goku's point about the Earth being in danger when he is around for the Buu arc and Dragon Ball Super, while proving that Goku's point is wrong for GT. Keep up the excellent work providing informative videos like this one! 👍🏻
absurd point considering that is only one specific instance in which goku makes things worse. for the VAST majority of the rest of the arcs gokus presence saved everyones lives
Goku is the main character he is dragonball he is the plot device the story is written to revolve around him triggering events good or bad intentionally or unintentionally. That’s kind of what the main character does hence why they are the main character take the main character out then 90% of all the events collapse. Not to mention if not for Goku Earth would not have survived the emperor pilaf saga, red ribbon army, or king piccolo.
So what do you think of Uub's existence then.
Qaaman watcha mean?
@@marioandultrachap The impact of removing Uub from dragon ball.
Qaaman well he hasn’t really done anything so I guess none.
Qaaman unless you count GT Goku might be weaker but that’s up for debate
Vegeta already planned on joining because he wanted to test himself against Gohan to confirm who's stronger.
I don't remember properly, but if them asking about the god ritual didn't use up a wish, they could just wish for another Saiyan or something.
Now we know that Whis would probably ressurect Goku because they would need him to perform the ritual of the Super Saiyan God, that or Beerus would demand Emma to give Goku a free pass just for that and Vegeta would be the one becoming the Super Saiyan God and after that Goku would return to the Other World. In RoF Vegeta would destroy completely Frieza, and that's it.
I really love these what if videos
I disagree about the tournament of power. If Goku didn't remind Zeno about it, he would have erased everything without giving them a fighting chance. In the last episode the Grand Priest said it himself, "if you made a selfish wish, Zeno would have erased everything" (at least according to the subs that I watched). The tournament was never a test, but the kindnes and selflessness of the mortals, when offered anything they could possibly ask for, happened to be the real test.
Basically if Goku never asked Zeno for the ToP, the multiverse would have been wiped out without any explanation for the viewers.
I don't know if it was a dub only line, but didn't Vegeta say that he was gonna enter the Tournament before Goku announced his return just to show how much stronger he's gotten than Gohan in the 7 years?
You're right. It wasn't included in the video but it makes no difference. Dabura would be defeated even easier.
elaiyer how so gohan was weak vegeta wood kill dbaura if he tirkc vegeta in to letin buu free so he have good fight
Been watching your videt since 10th grade
Now its been 2 years since I graduated
Vegeta would have done something to revive Boo. His ego would have craved that fight.
What makes you think that?
@@QaamansLand cuz vegeta is gonna vegeta lol
It would have been Imperfect to Perfect Cell all over again.
RagingWolf and Goku would have been forced to come back because of the future of the universe would be at stake.
vegeta dismissed Boo as a threat during his fight with Goku. because the only reason anyone thought boo was a threat was because Kaioshin told them he was.
I like how whis could’ve just brought goku back to live for the super saiyan god ritual
Hey Qaaman, What's the name of the song in your old intro when your avatar was training with the punching bag. I've been looking for that song forever but can't find it for the life of me.
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@@QaamansLand Thank you!
Wow great video
I never understood why Beby didn't just overtake Gokus body too. I mean nobody seemed to have a permanent protection against that. And Beby didn't even try.
Poor Goku. He did have a point that many villains did come after him. Not all sure, but it's easy to understand his conclusion. Still crazy for me to think that eventually all these characters will have to stay permanently dead from eventual death of natural causes like old age.
But seriously I do have a video idea what is your opinion on signature attacks and which ones are strongest assuming characters are all the same strength and have the same level of mastery of the technique
What is the name of that outro theme song?
Love your videos Quaaman!
If Goku never returned then Gohan, Goten, and Trunks would have had to virtually become completely different characters. Gohan would have had to embrace his destiny of being the Earth’s strongest warrior. Goten and Trunks would had to have shouldered the responsibility of becoming young warriors, as opposed to remaining as fun loving, immature children fighting for the sake of cheap thrills.
Fun fact: If Beerus does awake in GT he simply goes and Hakai’d Baby before Porunga restores everything back to normal, which could also extend to even Super 17 and the Shadow Dragons...that’s it if he awakens.
Your alive, Le Qaaman is back
3:34 but didn’t vegeta swear to never fight again as long as goku was dead? Or was it different in the manga?
It wasn't even a thing in the Japanese dub, as I heard.
Regarding Baby, there was a lot of focus on obtaining a Super Saiyan body and the strength of Pan and the other Saiyans outer space, so I wouldn't give Baby the win since he was constantly siphoning Super Saiyan strength which far exceeds anything he'd come to know
Vegeta still would have been entered the tournament but good video. Also, there's even a chance that Vegeta would still try to learn from Whis/Beerus just for power out of fear of his family's safety or the off chance that Beerus mentions other universes.
@Qaaman, wouldn't Future Trunks have Still went to the past, to seek help with Future Zamasu?
Without Goku that might not have happened because without Goku meeting Zamasu there's no Goku Black and without Goku Black Future Zamasu might not have started his Zero Mortals Plan at the time he did.
No fucking way. A qaaman episode
Ok, a few things, it's HEAVILY implied that Gohan wasn't a match for Debora....which angered Vegeta.....attracting Babidi to him.....thus creating Majin Vegeta. Goku wasn't a factor. Only difference is there would be no one to stop him, once he Majin'd up. Of course NONE of it would happen, because Vegeta only came to the tournament because Goku was coming....pretty sure that's why EVERYONE showed up, which triggered everything else. So essentially, the series would have....ended after the Cell games.
vegeta also implied heavily he could have resisted the spell but accepts it only to gain the powerup to match Goku. without Goku around, vegeta resists the spell long enough to kill Dabura off.
The goku black arc would still happen though because the body zamasu took was from a goku from a different time line
How do i watch your private dbz videos
This may be off topic, but do you think if tien learned the kaioken and used it along with the tri beam against semi perfect cell, do you think it would damage him greatly, kill him if he used kaioken times 20 or maybe more, or after the attack Tien would of died from the kaioken and the tri beam draining him?
Quaaman could you do a video on “What if future trunks’ predictions came true”?
Which one?
Qaaman I think he means that the first androids encountered were 17 and 18, and not 20 and 21
Qaaman if the first androids encountered were 17 and 18 and they were as evil and had the same power levels as they did in the future
Watch this video. I already did that topic. Comment on this video and share your thoughts.
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I feel like gohan might still train and if goku didn't return they would make gohan the main charcter
Babidi would still have made Vegeta a Majin and let him fight against Gokus offspring (Gohan), after Dabura would have eventually been defeated. Or he would have teleported Vegeta and Piccolo, until Dabura and Gohan would have thrown out enough energy.
vegeta cannot fall under his control except if vegeta lets him. adn he has no reason to let him
I don't think Baby would have went to Earth to track down the remaining saiyans since i thought that Baby learned of the location from when he briefly possessed trunks therefore with no trunks in space for baby to possess if Baby was completed he probably would have scoured the universe jumping from planet to planet looking for any trace of remaining saiyans and what are the odds baby would have ended up on earth before coming to the conclusion that all the saiyans are extinct and give up on his search?
i like the video the only thing is i wish you wouldnt keep using the butchered english dub names and terms but awesome video
Would it be possible that Vegeta could call in Tarble to do the ritual? Whis could go get him, Tarble was strong enough to give Avo and Caddo a challenge and he is nice enough to make it work.
What if Goku remembered Arale and recruited her for the Tournament of Power instead of Frieza?
Actually you forget.
It was stated by the Angel's that if Goku didnt intervene Zeno was already going to destroy the lower level universes anyways. So only 4 universes would have survived. Remember he did this in the past as well. It used to be 16 Universes. Zeno destroyed 4 of those.
Pretty much confirming that he would do it again. Destroying another 8. So Goku does have that influence.
is there a video on how the recent movies have effected dbz and especially dbgt timelines?
is dbgt even counted these days?
You forgot about frost without Goku frost's empire would still exist and he would still be secretly making a profit from destroying planets.
What if vegeta hadnt knocked out goku??
Good break down of plot
Frieza still would have came back and destroyed the planet due to the general reviving him due to the quality of the frieza force. Zeno wouldn't have forgotten to destroy all the other universes because he still would have saw the universes being pointless
Your back bro it’s been a while
How Come U Haven't Done This Until Now?
What do you mean?
@@QaamansLand I Mean, This Is One Of The Those What Ifs That Kinda Come To Our Heads Early On Considering How His Return Focked Up Everything In The Buu Saga, Long Story Short, I'm Surprised