I have been in the airlines for over 20 years. This is the first video I have ever watched that actually knows what he is talking about. His numbers are spot on. $350-$400k is very typical for topped out major captains.
what do u think about ATP flight school for a newly HS graduate. I know they wont accept a HS certificate unless u have also worked for 2 years or have a PPL( which i plan to get somewhere else)
@@danzodamanzo8192 to be a major captain?, what are you on about dude. The industry is about seniority the fact you said “1%” shows the lack of research you made.
@@danzodamanzo8192 please know a “major captain” is a another word for experience high seniority captain. And anyone can reach it if they stay at the airline for a long time
There are plenty of guys at UPS and Fedex made 1 mil $ after picking up open times last year. You can easily make extra 100k If you work on your off days. Currently they are offering a lot of 200-300% for OT ( lets say your hourly pay is 92$ you will get paid 276$ to pick up 300% open time). Working extra 2-3 days on your day off you can make good money. Even regional airlines in USA the first year FO makes 90$ per hour these days.
@@xxxkingahmed1375 When I started my initial training in 1997, loans were not available for flight training, so accelerated training wasn't an option for me(single parent household). I enrolled in community college and started taking lessons at a local flight school. While taking lessons and building my ratings, I had a job working 35 hours a week, while taking 14-16 units of college courses. I transfered to Univ. of Cal after community college and got my CFI rating my junior year. I instructed my last 2 years of university to build time. I got my degree in June of 2004, and was hired at the regionals in May of 2004, and placed into a training class in August of 2004. The degree is preferred but not required at most airlines. However, when you have 20,000 pilots applying for a job at United, the company is going to select from the highest qualified applicants first. Having the college degree will make you a higher qualified applicant. Good luck with training.
Interesting on when pay starts per flight. I thought it was from wheels up to wheels down, not including taxiing and other delays after leaving the gate. Good to know.
The jist of what you covered is great, but their are a lot of contracts up for negotiation right now, and the mind set among most of us is that we want at least a 40% bump over the term of the contract. With the pilot shortage, it’s turned in to very much a grind that is pretty miserable. However, most flying right now is paying double, and any extra flying is paying triple. We’ll get a hand full at my airline who will end up at the $700-$800k range, and that’s all narrow body. The key is to settle in to a lifestyle that allows you to invest and save a lot when times are good. Tell all the girls you’re dating that your a hard working baggage handler, not a pilot. It keeps the gold diggers away, and you will end up with a great one like I did. Live in base! Have a great cash flow side gig, master all the tricks of how to bid for max pay. I made a lot of mistakes and it cost me 5 additional years before landing at an airline due to a long active duty requirement I had to fulfill. An Air National Guard pathway would have been much better. But I did well in avoiding having to go through a regional to land a big job. I’m only 52 and consider myself retired. It’s technically an unpaid LOA, following a voluntary paid leave during the pandemic. I have babies and I want to be with them every day, and plenty of cash flow to accomplish doing so. Avoid the McMansions and Beemers. I promise you, long term, you will be so happy you did.
Once I get all of my certifications and licenses what would be a good way to set myself up for getting into the airlines? Is spending a short amount of time at a regional airline a bad idea?
@@drew2183 No, it’s not a bad idea at all. It’s not the only way though. I’m a big fan of the Air National Guard Route. It’s best to have a PPL before approaching units, but you get 2 years of additional world class training, then 2 years of hardening off on active duty. Going to an major airline as a freshly promoted Captain and 2 flight lead makes you a great candidate. It doesn’t matter if you are flying big heavies or pointy nosed aircraft. 2/3 of the platinum level training is the same. Your going to be flying fingertip, upside down, fast etc… Stick with it as a part timer long enough, you’ll get a decent retirement and medical benefits when you turn 60.
I understand the thoughts of “it’s a long hard journey to get to be pilot and money”. Young gals and guys maybe don’t want to put in the years. Ok consider your office, pretty cool and days off. Then quit and try working in office job 5 days a week for 40k. Not fun. So you start a business, or work remotely from home. Try finding days off and making 50k plus absolutely no retirement set aside. Seems still long term “career “ eventually better. Don’t be short sighted. It’s a carreer.!
Good information considering the short time period. The implication that you can be a wide body captain in three years is a stretch, however. There are several pay rates between new hire and wide body captain that prospective pilots need to consider. I'm retired from a 30 year airline career, after several years of flight instructor/charter/corporate flying. It's an excellent career and though I had a great time at my corporate jobs, I certainly wished I'd gone to the airline sooner in order to have more years as a wide body captain. Seniority is everything! I'm forwarding your video to my grandson, whose thinking of a pilot career...thanks.
How was your experience with being a pilot and also having a family? That’s really the only thing I’m worried about with becoming a pilot. I’m finishing my senior year of high school this year and am planning my next steps.
@@Nash-xh3fi As with any job, there are ups & downs. I was gone a lot but when at home, I wasn't bothered by job distractions as some of my 9-5 friends were. The travel benefits aren't what they used to be with the booking software being so efficient that there are fewer seats available but it can still be done. The video mentioned people not taking the captain upgrade when available. I stayed a senior wide body First Officer for a few years after I could've held 737 Captain because I could fly to London, Paris & Tokyo, have a bunk for rest breaks and work 12 days a month. When I could hold 757/767 Captain, I went to the left seat. Being a pilot is a personal decision but I wouldn't trade a minute of it for anything else. You weigh the good vs bad.
Thanks for your input @R Boyd. We’re definitely in amazing times. Delta just announced a 4.5 month new hire first officer was awarded a B767 Captain slot👨🏼✈️ 🤩
Overall decent information . It’s important to realize you can’t base pay just off pay rates alone . A considerable amount of money is made in the work rules . Also, Southwest is not a Legacy airline .
One thing I’m finding looking at the airline industry is they like to say how much their 12 year captain and first officers make. But I need to know how much I’m going to be making the first few years so I can plan accordingly with my family.
Lately I’ve pondered on taking some classes to become a pilot and do a Career change. I’m currently a Truck Driver Owner Operator and make ok money buy it’s a ton of Work. Driving/ diagnostics/ self repairs to keep going and be ready at all time for the Next day. What Other education is needed to become a pilot other than these courses that these flight schools offer. I never graduated college. I Figure I can sell 1 of my trucks and start a Pilots course and take a Year off to do so.
The problem with the industry is there are huge barriers to entry and lots of risks unless you come from the military side. I have my PP and IR and would love to try flying professionally, but I make $180K a year and there is no way I could go back to to making so little in the first five years. The number of military pilots is shrinking…the good news for young people entering this industry is this means pay will increase and demand for pilots will only increase. I hate to say the industry is broken but it sort of is, hence the demand issues.
@@ekenedennis7637 My daughter just completed her 4 yr degree in aviation via online courses through Liberty University. It only took her a little over 2 yrs and included flight training as well. She is now a CFII (flight instructor) gaining hours to go further. The cost was typical for a 4 yr degree but with the bonus of all her flight training and certifications. Approximately $120k. She just turned 20 about 3 months ago…yes I’m a proud parent. Good luck
Your information is wrong on NetJets. The 52,60,76 are not days off a year. From what you said the more days off you have the more money you make. What that actually indicates is how many days you work in a 4 month bid period. So the CC60 is working 60 days in 4 month and that is the same pay as 7 on 7 off with an average of working 15 days a month. The cc52 is averaging working 13 days a month. Less work less money.
I heard a lot of ppl saying aniline’s don’t pay well specially in those first 5 years u will be paid only 40k to 50k per year. I’m so confused I don’t know what what to believe anymore
You've heard truth. Providing you'll be able to secure a job. Look at other videos on the channel, it's a flight school. Guess what their interests are
Great video. I’m thinking about becoming a pilot, and have been looking into starting flight school in 2023 (already have a bachelors in an unrelated field). And I had one question, with the pilot shortage that we currently have and the predictions that it will become increasingly more desperate, is there any reason to go to a lower cost airline like JetBlue/frontier instead of sticking out for a legacy airline to try to make that extra $100/hr later on in your career? Thanks!
Hi Dakota, Great question. Having faced this exact scenario in my career while I was at the regionals from 2003-2013, I asked myself if there was any disadvantage to going to Jetblue et al vs waiting for a call from Fedex or United. And the answer was no. The advantages are you will make more money going to Jetblue while waiting for a call from your airline of choice, you will have a free type rating, you will gain valuable experience flying bigger equipment to international destinations. A big disadvantage is what if United never calls? That is a scenario that most don't want to think about but is very realistic. When I got hired in 2003, I thought I'd be at United by 2005/6. I ignored the fact that 10's of thousands of pilots were furloughed due to 9/11. I got my first opportunity to interview at Southwest in 2007 and didn't make it. At that time, only 20% of interviewees were hired on the first try. It was very common for most to try 2-3 times to finally get hired. Lastly, if you go to Jetblue as a place to be while waiting for a call to the legacies, you will be building seniority and the airline will be expanding and most likely increasing pay and benefits. If 3-5 years passed before you get the call, you may decide that things have changed at Jetblue so much that it doesn't make financial sense for you to leave the seniority and money just to start over at the bottom of a list of 15,000 pilots. My mentor once told me, make the best decision you can at that time and place. You won't know if you made the right decision until you retire and look back. The future for aviation is very bright. Good luck!
@@ocflightlessons That was a fantastic explanation, thank you so much! Certainly makes sense to not strictly play the waiting game with a legacy and at least fill time with a step up from the regionals. Would you say it’s normal to continue pursuing the legacies while at the low cost? Or is it not really worth the loss of seniority?
@@Kenny-bp8ux I have been looking at one of my local schools, Academy of Aviation. And the program length from 0 time to MEI is 5 months. Others in the area are around 7 months
Do you know how the 401k contributions work? Does that 18% you mentioned get deducted from your hourly pay or is it extra contributed from the airline? Also do they pay for HealthCare or is that deducted from your pay as well? Thank you
When you are talking about pay, you need to stop talking about "pilots" and start talking about the career path - Second Officer, First Officer, Captain ... and the time it takes to get to those positions, the risk of losing the position due to medical, the loss of seniority (and thus pay level) if you move airlines - say if the one you work for goes bust - and the investment you need to make before you can start even thinking about the job.
Does anybody have any suggestions for a flight school? I'm going in with no experience and not a lot of funding. I'm also located in Columbus Ohio. I looked into ATP flight school in Cincinnati, but it is a bit pricey and I want a fast-track route to get my hours in to get on with a company. So no colleges if possible
Crazy times. As a American Eagle wholly owned Captain and Line Check Airman with the 100% override you can make $450,000 a year flying a regional jet, not counting bonuses. The income across the industry is going to double in the next couple of years.
i doubt the income will double, and i'd imagine in the next few decades it'll be a job ran by a computer. i'd actually say that entire field of work is in danger, as is trucking.
Ha if u think pilots will be making 900k a year you are bugging. The absolute top paid pilots today make 500k. No shot it will be 900k until maybe another 30 years thanks to inflation.
I used to fly corporate. We had 3 a man crew on a Challenger 605. Captain was making $220k. We worked 6-8 days a months, 220hrs of flying per year with average 4 overnights a month. Schedule posted a week in advance. Great work life balance but there was no way I was ever going to go captain because it was a dream job and the other two pilots werent going anywhere and were quite young. Theres more to it than money. Most long haul pilots dont live long after retirement, averaging 5-6 years after retirement.
The data does not show that. However, It takes a conscious decision to be healthy doing this job. You can go to the bar when you get to your hotel, or to the gym. Eat a salad or a cheeseburger. These are the decisions that keep you healthy. Besides that, I get 16 to 19 days off per month and make pretty decent money being an international pilot. It’s a great career, for now at least…
Hi Jason, Thanks for commenting. I previously included bonuses in another video but the internet warriors came out with torches and spikes when they heard how much pilots were making so I left it out of this one 😉 😆
Hi Joshua It would be listed in the company manual which is provided to every pilot. You can access that data by going to airlinepilotcentral.com Great question 👍🏼
@@ocflightlessons well I mean like how do pilot know if they are gonna get paid like say triple there hourly rate for overtime pay. Are they told beforehand?
Hi Denys Several of my former collegues are at the major airlines and have reported to me that upgrade times are as little as 6 months to 2 years. Unheard of times! Best wishes, Omar
Nice to know I retired from a legacy airline as a "white body" captain, and also learn the difference between "brake" and "break". PLEASE review your graphics before you post-somebody who works for a firm called "QC" should understand Quality Control. Would I fly with you?????
im an automotive mechanic. i always wanted to fly. have been on a discovery flight and now that i know how much the top dogs are making its all so much more interesting. I'm 22 years old and am making about 100k pre tax a year. which nothing to complain about. i know there's more pay to grow into but i dont feel I or my peers are being compensated enough for what I do. i am now going to take my private pilots coarse at my community college to get a feel for it. is there any way for me to get exposed to the industry in a quicker way ? looking to get in somewhere that doesn't require a 4 year degree.
A couple of things, corporate pilots may be the only pilots for the one aircraft. Could mean there are no real days off as one could get called out at a moment’s notice. Corporate pilot - what is important is who you fly for and how you are treated. Not the airframe. Please let’s drop the word license, it’s a “certificate”. License is at best “folksy” but not correct.
Hi there, If you enroll in an accelerated program, you can finish your ratings in 9 months. Then you will flight instructor for 1-1.5 years if at a busy school. During this time, I recommend getting an online degree in any subject(the airlines don't care of the subject). After flight instructing, I'd recommend flying at a regional airline. At the moment, pilots are being hired directly to major airlines with less than 1 year at a regional. 2 of my flight instructors were hired at Horizon Air in 2021, and got hired at Frontier 9 months later. Amazing times for aviation! Best Wishes! Omar
Thank you soo much! By the time I join it will be too late or the situation will change . Im graduating high school in 2024 and then planning to do a 4 year degree so that if something goes so I have this as a backup. After this I will join ATP accelerated prgram and finish fast. So far this is my plan
@@Nakka117 My daughter just completed her 4 yr degree in aviation via online courses through Liberty University. It only took her a little over 2 yrs and included flight training as well. She is now a CFII (flight instructor) gaining hours to go further. The cost was typical for a 4 yr degree but with the added bonus of all her flight training and certifications. Approximately $120k. She just turned 20 about 3 months ago…yes I’m a proud parent. Good luck
Thank you for this great video and i have some questions. I am a 41years old freelance designer from LA and i always wanted be a pilot. I'm serious thinking about going into flight school to become a airline pilot. Do you honestly think i can make it or am i too old for it? Love to hear some realistic answers from real pilot, thanks👍
Hi Shin, I actually have some friends in flight school in their 30s and a lot of them are going through a career change. Just be aware that if you are trying to be a pilot in an airline you are forced to retire at 65 and you also need to pass your first class medical exam to remain current as a pilot. I would recommend going to an AME to see if you can pass a first class medical exam prior to aiming for flying as a career as if you do not pass you will not be able to carry passengers. You can be a flight instructor though with a 3rd class medical! I hope this made you think about it from a different view as a lot of individuals looking into becoming a pilot don’t know you have to medically qualify.
@@Kenny-bp8ux make sure you choose Dallas in city AME as the search and the first class check box. I put in Dallas Texas and got some results. Let me know if that helps!
@@benjaminmendezz He is a 19 yr Captain..BUUUT don't forget they are tripling size in the next 9 Years meaning you could be super senior (like more than 50% in the next 5 yrs) and they have contract negotiations coming next year ( better pay).
AA owned regionals are paying 213 per hour of you don't "flow" to American Airlines after 5 yrs. 213per hour doesn't seem bad for a regional. It seems sweet.
I’d imagine you have to look into getting a pardon for whatever the offence was. First step is to Google how to get your pardon from your respective country.
I’m 25, I have my PPL, and that alone cost like 17k. I’m just so scared to put myself in massive amounts of -more- debt. I want to become a pilot so bad, but like it’s scary knowing how much money would be in the hole
In the USA you choose where you’re gonna fly, in Brazil you’re lucky if you find a job. The pay is incredibly low. I’ll try my luck anyways. Is it possible becoming a pilot in the US if you’re Brazilian? Thank you. Enjoyed the video
Hi there, think of being a pilot at an airline as two different positions. One being a first officer, the second being a captain. When you're a first officer, you will bid your schedule, vacation, time off, and any other seniority related issue based on your seniority against other first officers. So if you were hired in 2022, with 500 first officers in the company hired before you, you'd be at the bottom of seniority until more first officers are hired. Let's say the year is now 2024 and you now have 300 first officers ahead of you, because the ones above you upgraded to captain, and you have 500 first officers hired after you, you are essentially first officer 301 out of 800, giving you a seniority of 37%. This mean you get to bid your schedule ahead of 62% of other first officers. Once you upgrade to captain, now you're bidding against other captains that are more senior to you, much more senior. This means you will likely be working weekends and holidays as a captain, but off those times as a first officer. A lot of first officers will not take the upgrade once they reach legacy airlines such as United or American because they're making $250,000/year and can hold weekends and holidays off giving them quality time to spend with their families at home. Hope this helps!
There are people changing careers, would it pay for someone in their late 40's to become a pilot or will they never make it to the major airlines as a Captain?
Hey there! I just turned 30 and im about to leave my finance career to go full time into flight school. These are my calculations: it will take approximately 2 years to get all my licenses (ppl, cpl, multi-ifr and frozen atpl). I will have about 250 hours after those 2 years. I will then be a CFI for about 1 year to 1.5 which will bring my total flight time to 800-1000 hours. Then its the regionals for about 2-5 years depending on the industry demand. This being said, i will mostly be able to join a major airline when i will be 40, leaving a 25 year career at a major. Within these 25 years It will probably take 10-12 years to make it to the top end of the salary scale, which means i will be able to make “the big bucks” for only 10-15 years of my career. However, i cant stress this enough, do not join aviation for the pay, you will be disappointed for the first 5-7 years. Do it for the passion of flying, its a privileged job and i cant wait to start my journey!
You will make captain but you will never see left seat on a heavy. That being said, it's not all about money. I know pilots that flew their entire career at Delta on the MD88. They loved the plane, the 2-3 hour legs and being home almost every day. Plus they got captain young as it was the most junior plane for captains and move up the seniority quickly to bid the best schedules. One of the pilots hadn't worked a single weekend in 18 years before he retired. It's all about what kind of life you want. I know a 777 First Officer at Air Canada that never wants to go captain because he's #3 on that plane at his base. He is Hong Kong native and sells his other trips to other pilots looking for overtime and he bids to fly to Hong Kong once or twice a month.
Hello, In 2010, I accepted a base transfer to PHX, our newest base, because it was only a 45 minute commute from home. During my one of my trips, my first officer was a 51 year old that had worked in Wall Street for a few decades, made a ton of money but wasn't passionate about it, so he quit and became an airline pilot. He is now sitting left seat at a legacy. My flight instructor from 1999 was 44 when he was hired at Expressjet in 2005. He has been a captain for United for the last 4 years. Never let anyone discourage you from your dreams. Anything is possible. Good luck!
I'd like to get to know you due to the fact that I want to do aviation after I'm done with my secondary school and I would like to have you as a connection
Excited to start next year at ATP. Trying to pick a major airline to have a goal in mind during school. Do you have a specific favorite legacy airline?
Is your life worth more than $30,000 per month is the ultimate question you must answer. You also should look into how often accidents happen. The multi trillion Dollar per year industry has many dark secrets to hide.
Pilot has always been a gold collar worker and they need to pay better as American and Canadian pilots have been poached by Middle East and Asian airlines. The seniority lists were long to get upgraded and that made reaching top pay tiers unattainable for most.
Yes. That's why investing 150k towards a pilot career will pay dividends sooner than you think. Potential career earnings of over 7mil depending on how early you start. Imagine having an ATP as soon as eligible.
Man every job I want to do won’t even pay enough to keep a roof over your head for the first couple years how these people do it during the first couple years? Live with parents? Get multiple roommates
Hello, I'm an Egyptian and I'm planning to got to an aviation school in the US. My question is if i completed the program and completed the required 1500 hrs, will i be able to work as a pilot in an American airline as a non American citizen?
I know you’re a flight school talking to the lowest common denominator, e.g. the zero time maybe-I-want-to-be-a-pilot person, but stop calling it a pilot LICENSE. It’s a CERTIFICATE. You’re making my OCD flare up.
90 hours per month is a lot of flying, typical line is about 80. to be in B787,B777,B767-400 CA (left seat at that rate), you need aprox 20 years with the airline. Before you get there you'll make much less, on average half.
Hi there Thanks for your contribution. Some airlines differentiate credit vs block. Credit is what you get paid, block is how much you fly. For example, you may block 5 hours from LAX-JFK, but credit 5:25. My reference was to credit for your entire month. At my former airline, you could credit 100 hours per month, but only block 80 hours depending on how your schedule turned out. Fly safe
@@ocflightlessons You mentions United, and United Contract goes by hours. Each hour is a credit, even if you have computer based training (CBT) is credited in hours per contract. Most lines are 80 hours and if you have CBTs that's few hours on top of that (CBTs are quarterly and pay 1 hours for each 3 hour at the computer). Contract guaranties MPG of 73 hours reserve line and 70 hours regular line, on average pilots get 78-80 hours regular line. Reserve gets 73 until pilot flies above 73 hours for the month. However, no pilot should ever calculate salaries on average only on contract MPG. Please don't say what 10% of top senior pilots make after 25 years in United, it's misleading to the public.
Legacy airlines do not include southwest airlines and Alaska airlines Why would anyone give up being an airline captain to own a flight school at his age Hard to believe he has 20,000 plus hours
I have been in the airlines for over 20 years. This is the first video I have ever watched that actually knows what he is talking about. His numbers are spot on. $350-$400k is very typical for topped out major captains.
Thanks for watching.
Love it. Ive got a 15 year old about to start lessons!!
@@colleencurtis9259 nice I know they are going to love it flying is so much fun in my eyes
$450k-500k and more at UPS and FedEx.
what do u think about ATP flight school for a newly HS graduate. I know they wont accept a HS certificate unless u have also worked for 2 years or have a PPL( which i plan to get somewhere else)
I flew for a major carrier for 27 yrs, and this gentleman knows what he is talking about. Spot on as they say. Great info.
Thanks Don.
Is that right a pilot earn 30k$ monthly??
Wow. Airline pilots deserve to be paid well. They always look so cool at the airport. Their uniforms and conduct.
The 1% of airlines pilots will ever get to that top position.
@@danzodamanzo8192 to be a major captain?, what are you on about dude. The industry is about seniority the fact you said “1%” shows the lack of research you made.
@@danzodamanzo8192 please know a “major captain” is a another word for experience high seniority captain. And anyone can reach it if they stay at the airline for a long time
The most concise, complete and comprehensive video I have ever seen on the topic. You earned a sub.
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As a CFI/CFII the pay isn’t amazing, but I love what I do and I’m really excited for the future of my career 👍
How is the pay?
There are plenty of guys at UPS and Fedex made 1 mil $ after picking up open times last year. You can easily make extra 100k If you work on your off days. Currently they are offering a lot of 200-300% for OT ( lets say your hourly pay is 92$ you will get paid 276$ to pick up 300% open time). Working extra 2-3 days on your day off you can make good money. Even regional airlines in USA the first year FO makes 90$ per hour these days.
Thanks for your input
You can only fly 90 hrs a month that’s the law you can’t exceed that. , there is no ot
Thank you. I’m about to join united Aviate academy and I never knew that’s the amount as CFI. The honesty is much appreciated
Good luck with all your training. You picked a great career.
did u hvae a bachelor degree or did u do accelerated flight school
@@xxxkingahmed1375 When I started my initial training in 1997, loans were not available for flight training, so accelerated training wasn't an option for me(single parent household). I enrolled in community college and started taking lessons at a local flight school. While taking lessons and building my ratings, I had a job working 35 hours a week, while taking 14-16 units of college courses. I transfered to Univ. of Cal after community college and got my CFI rating my junior year. I instructed my last 2 years of university to build time. I got my degree in June of 2004, and was hired at the regionals in May of 2004, and placed into a training class in August of 2004.
The degree is preferred but not required at most airlines. However, when you have 20,000 pilots applying for a job at United, the company is going to select from the highest qualified applicants first. Having the college degree will make you a higher qualified applicant.
Good luck with training.
Interesting on when pay starts per flight. I thought it was from wheels up to wheels down, not including taxiing and other delays after leaving the gate. Good to know.
The jist of what you covered is great, but their are a lot of contracts up for negotiation right now, and the mind set among most of us is that we want at least a 40% bump over the term of the contract. With the pilot shortage, it’s turned in to very much a grind that is pretty miserable. However, most flying right now is paying double, and any extra flying is paying triple. We’ll get a hand full at my airline who will end up at the $700-$800k range, and that’s all narrow body.
The key is to settle in to a lifestyle that allows you to invest and save a lot when times are good. Tell all the girls you’re dating that your a hard working baggage handler, not a pilot. It keeps the gold diggers away, and you will end up with a great one like I did.
Live in base! Have a great cash flow side gig, master all the tricks of how to bid for max pay. I made a lot of mistakes and it cost me 5 additional years before landing at an airline due to a long active duty requirement I had to fulfill. An Air National Guard pathway would have been much better. But I did well in avoiding having to go through a regional to land a big job.
I’m only 52 and consider myself retired. It’s technically an unpaid LOA, following a voluntary paid leave during the pandemic. I have babies and I want to be with them every day, and plenty of cash flow to accomplish doing so. Avoid the McMansions and Beemers. I promise you, long term, you will be so happy you did.
Great advice. Thanks for sharing.
Once I get all of my certifications and licenses what would be a good way to set myself up for getting into the airlines? Is spending a short amount of time at a regional airline a bad idea?
@@drew2183 No, it’s not a bad idea at all. It’s not the only way though. I’m a big fan of the Air National Guard Route. It’s best to have a PPL before approaching units, but you get 2 years of additional world class training, then 2 years of hardening off on active duty. Going to an major airline as a freshly promoted Captain and 2 flight lead makes you a great candidate.
It doesn’t matter if you are flying big heavies or pointy nosed aircraft. 2/3 of the platinum level training is the same. Your going to be flying fingertip, upside down, fast etc… Stick with it as a part timer long enough, you’ll get a decent retirement and medical benefits when you turn 60.
@@LtColDaddy71 That sounds like the most affordable option as well to be honest. I’ll look into it!
I'm in A&P school, part 147, right now (in the middle of airframe) and I hope you guys keep on flying lol
Spot on video with the way airline industry pays, thank for you this!
I understand the thoughts of “it’s a long hard journey to get to be pilot and money”. Young gals and guys maybe don’t want to put in the years. Ok consider your office, pretty cool and days off. Then quit and try working in office job 5 days a week for 40k. Not fun. So you start a business, or work remotely from home. Try finding days off and making 50k plus absolutely no retirement set aside. Seems still long term “career “ eventually better. Don’t be short sighted. It’s a carreer.!
Awesome video! Thank you a lot for inspiring us and allocating time to create the content!!
Good information considering the short time period. The implication that you can be a wide body captain in three years is a stretch, however. There are several pay rates between new hire and wide body captain that prospective pilots need to consider. I'm retired from a 30 year airline career, after several years of flight instructor/charter/corporate flying. It's an excellent career and though I had a great time at my corporate jobs, I certainly wished I'd gone to the airline sooner in order to have more years as a wide body captain. Seniority is everything! I'm forwarding your video to my grandson, whose thinking of a pilot career...thanks.
How was your experience with being a pilot and also having a family? That’s really the only thing I’m worried about with becoming a pilot. I’m finishing my senior year of high school this year and am planning my next steps.
@@Nash-xh3fi As with any job, there are ups & downs. I was gone a lot but when at home, I wasn't bothered by job distractions as some of my 9-5 friends were. The travel benefits aren't what they used to be with the booking software being so efficient that there are fewer seats available but it can still be done. The video mentioned people not taking the captain upgrade when available. I stayed a senior wide body First Officer for a few years after I could've held 737 Captain because I could fly to London, Paris & Tokyo, have a bunk for rest breaks and work 12 days a month. When I could hold 757/767 Captain, I went to the left seat. Being a pilot is a personal decision but I wouldn't trade a minute of it for anything else. You weigh the good vs bad.
Thanks for your input @R Boyd. We’re definitely in amazing times. Delta just announced a 4.5 month new hire first officer was awarded a B767 Captain slot👨🏼✈️ 🤩
Loved the video, wish I was still in my 20's
Don't we all! ;)
I’m starting flight school in Summer 2024🙏🏼
Overall decent information . It’s important to realize you can’t base pay just off pay rates alone . A considerable amount of money is made in the work rules . Also, Southwest is not a Legacy airline .
❤️❤️❤️ AND WE CONSIDER IT AN INSULT TO BE CALLED ONE! 😂
Great and informative 👍. Please more of thus kind..but with more information regarding foreigner pilot job hiring policy and method
One thing I’m finding looking at the airline industry is they like to say how much their 12 year captain and first officers make. But I need to know how much I’m going to be making the first few years so I can plan accordingly with my family.
First year regional pilots are making $100,000/year
Lately I’ve pondered on taking some classes to become a pilot and do a Career change. I’m currently a Truck Driver Owner Operator and make ok money buy it’s a ton of Work. Driving/ diagnostics/ self repairs to keep going and be ready at all time for the Next day. What Other education is needed to become a pilot other than these courses that these flight schools offer. I never graduated college. I Figure I can sell 1 of my trucks and start a Pilots course and take a Year off to do so.
Where are you from my friend
Simply thanks . I'm in operations at UPS trying to get into the cargo planes.
The problem with the industry is there are huge barriers to entry and lots of risks unless you come from the military side. I have my PP and IR and would love to try flying professionally, but I make $180K a year and there is no way I could go back to to making so little in the first five years. The number of military pilots is shrinking…the good news for young people entering this industry is this means pay will increase and demand for pilots will only increase. I hate to say the industry is broken but it sort of is, hence the demand issues.
I’m starting at a 4 year aviation program next month, can’t wait!!!
Good luck! We need more pilots!
What’s the cost of doing a 4 year program compared to that of a local flight school? Need some insight please
@@ekenedennis7637 My daughter just completed her 4 yr degree in aviation via online courses through Liberty University. It only took her a little over 2 yrs and included flight training as well. She is now a CFII (flight instructor) gaining hours to go further. The cost was typical for a 4 yr degree but with the bonus of all her flight training and certifications. Approximately $120k. She just turned 20 about 3 months ago…yes I’m a proud parent. Good luck
Thank you for the honesty
Your information is wrong on NetJets. The 52,60,76 are not days off a year. From what you said the more days off you have the more money you make. What that actually indicates is how many days you work in a 4 month bid period. So the CC60 is working 60 days in 4 month and that is the same pay as 7 on 7 off with an average of working 15 days a month. The cc52 is averaging working 13 days a month. Less work less money.
Well done! Liked your presentation! Thanks!
In indonesia, this kind of profession is not well appreciated by major airlines. Salary way below standards.
VERY INFORMATIVE THANK YOU👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks for watching
I heard a lot of ppl saying aniline’s don’t pay well specially in those first 5 years u will be paid only 40k to 50k per year. I’m so confused I don’t know what what to believe anymore
You've heard truth. Providing you'll be able to secure a job. Look at other videos on the channel, it's a flight school. Guess what their interests are
Great video. I’m thinking about becoming a pilot, and have been looking into starting flight school in 2023 (already have a bachelors in an unrelated field). And I had one question, with the pilot shortage that we currently have and the predictions that it will become increasingly more desperate, is there any reason to go to a lower cost airline like JetBlue/frontier instead of sticking out for a legacy airline to try to make that extra $100/hr later on in your career? Thanks!
Hi Dakota,
Great question. Having faced this exact scenario in my career while I was at the regionals from 2003-2013, I asked myself if there was any disadvantage to going to Jetblue et al vs waiting for a call from Fedex or United. And the answer was no. The advantages are you will make more money going to Jetblue while waiting for a call from your airline of choice, you will have a free type rating, you will gain valuable experience flying bigger equipment to international destinations.
A big disadvantage is what if United never calls? That is a scenario that most don't want to think about but is very realistic. When I got hired in 2003, I thought I'd be at United by 2005/6. I ignored the fact that 10's of thousands of pilots were furloughed due to 9/11. I got my first opportunity to interview at Southwest in 2007 and didn't make it. At that time, only 20% of interviewees were hired on the first try. It was very common for most to try 2-3 times to finally get hired.
Lastly, if you go to Jetblue as a place to be while waiting for a call to the legacies, you will be building seniority and the airline will be expanding and most likely increasing pay and benefits. If 3-5 years passed before you get the call, you may decide that things have changed at Jetblue so much that it doesn't make financial sense for you to leave the seniority and money just to start over at the bottom of a list of 15,000 pilots.
My mentor once told me, make the best decision you can at that time and place. You won't know if you made the right decision until you retire and look back. The future for aviation is very bright.
Good luck!
@@ocflightlessons That was a fantastic explanation, thank you so much! Certainly makes sense to not strictly play the waiting game with a legacy and at least fill time with a step up from the regionals. Would you say it’s normal to continue pursuing the legacies while at the low cost? Or is it not really worth the loss of seniority?
@@dakotabarnoski3145 if you don't mind me asking, which flight school are you planning to go to and how long will the school be?
@@Kenny-bp8ux I have been looking at one of my local schools, Academy of Aviation. And the program length from 0 time to MEI is 5 months. Others in the area are around 7 months
@@dakotabarnoski3145 I’m starting my flight training with the same school next month hopefully!
GREAT VIDEO!
Do you know how the 401k contributions work? Does that 18% you mentioned get deducted from your hourly pay or is it extra contributed from the airline? Also do they pay for HealthCare or is that deducted from your pay as well? Thank you
What is the reason for the large jump between the first and second year for a FO?
It was an amazing video 📸
When you are talking about pay, you need to stop talking about "pilots" and start talking about the career path - Second Officer, First Officer, Captain ... and the time it takes to get to those positions, the risk of losing the position due to medical, the loss of seniority (and thus pay level) if you move airlines - say if the one you work for goes bust - and the investment you need to make before you can start even thinking about the job.
Does anybody have any suggestions for a flight school?
I'm going in with no experience and not a lot of funding. I'm also located in Columbus Ohio.
I looked into ATP flight school in Cincinnati, but it is a bit pricey and I want a fast-track route to get my hours in to get on with a company. So no colleges if possible
ATP will get you ratings fast. Dont worry about price because this a return on investment education.
@@idontgotnothin Not at 17% interest
Crazy times. As a American Eagle wholly owned Captain and Line Check Airman with the 100% override you can make $450,000 a year flying a regional jet, not counting bonuses. The income across the industry is going to double in the next couple of years.
i doubt the income will double, and i'd imagine in the next few decades it'll be a job ran by a computer. i'd actually say that entire field of work is in danger, as is trucking.
@@bc1173 I’m not going to say never, but I doubt it’ll be ran by a computer. There will always be a human factor need in aviation
Ha if u think pilots will be making 900k a year you are bugging. The absolute top paid pilots today make 500k. No shot it will be 900k until maybe another 30 years thanks to inflation.
Where the industry needs help is at the bottom end of the scale, not at the top. Fix that and you fix the pilot shortage issue.
I used to fly corporate. We had 3 a man crew on a Challenger 605. Captain was making $220k. We worked 6-8 days a months, 220hrs of flying per year with average 4 overnights a month. Schedule posted a week in advance. Great work life balance but there was no way I was ever going to go captain because it was a dream job and the other two pilots werent going anywhere and were quite young. Theres more to it than money. Most long haul pilots dont live long after retirement, averaging 5-6 years after retirement.
So for you, the lifestyle was better in corporate?
I’ve always wanted to fly corporate. Just wanted to bump elbows with people who had cooperate jet money
So are you going to DM me this company and your bosses email!? It's not about being captain. It's about days off. That's the real salary!
You made that number up about long haul pilots after retirement and you know it. Not cool man.
The data does not show that. However, It takes a conscious decision to be healthy doing this job. You can go to the bar when you get to your hotel, or to the gym. Eat a salad or a cheeseburger. These are the decisions that keep you healthy. Besides that, I get 16 to 19 days off per month and make pretty decent money being an international pilot. It’s a great career, for now at least…
You didn’t talk about bonuses at all. Delta offers a hefty annual profit sharing bonus.
Hi Jason,
Thanks for commenting. I previously included bonuses in another video but the internet warriors came out with torches and spikes when they heard how much pilots were making so I left it out of this one 😉 😆
How do pilots know what there hourly rate will be for there flight?
Hi Joshua
It would be listed in the company manual which is provided to every pilot. You can access that data by going to airlinepilotcentral.com
Great question 👍🏼
@@ocflightlessons well I mean like how do pilot know if they are gonna get paid like say triple there hourly rate for overtime pay. Are they told beforehand?
@@joshuastimmel Your pay package and benefits is defined in your employee manual which is distributed during new hire training.
You forgot to mentioned Spirit and Frontier only fly 737 or 320 compared to Legacy 767/777.
That 352 dollars is for the first officer pilot salary Boeing 787 or 767 in the United airline.
In comparison: As a Boeing Test Pilot you are making an average of 140,000 a year.
Is the upgrade time actually 6-12 months though? I researched and saw bigger time spans, but maybe that's older info.
Hi Denys
Several of my former collegues are at the major airlines and have reported to me that upgrade times are as little as 6 months to 2 years. Unheard of times!
Best wishes,
Omar
Awesome, Very education
Nice to know I retired from a legacy airline as a "white body" captain, and also learn the difference between "brake" and "break". PLEASE review your graphics before you post-somebody who works for a firm called "QC" should understand Quality Control. Would I fly with you?????
No kidding, when the thumbnail appeared in my suggestions I thought for a moment that Russell Peters change his profession. 😂
Sir i would love to join ur flying school what are the requirements and fees?
What does the typical retirement age look like for the commercial airlines? Recently got interested in aviation, but seems like I'm too late ;)
Retirement is 65 for airlines. You can still fly corporate after 65. My first officer was 51 years old new hire at the regionals
Do I have 70 percent chance of becoming captain at major airlines in 10 years
hi,Could you share more information about how international student pilot get permission of work in usa ?
im an automotive mechanic. i always wanted to fly. have been on a discovery flight and now that i know how much the top dogs are making its all so much more interesting. I'm 22 years old and am making about 100k pre tax a year. which nothing to complain about. i know there's more pay to grow into but i dont feel I or my peers are being compensated enough for what I do. i am now going to take my private pilots coarse at my community college to get a feel for it. is there any way for me to get exposed to the industry in a quicker way ? looking to get in somewhere that doesn't require a 4 year degree.
There are schools that will get to a CFI in 6-12 months, they are hard work though. Be prepared to study
A couple of things, corporate pilots may be the only pilots for the one aircraft. Could mean there are no real days off as one could get called out at a moment’s notice. Corporate pilot - what is important is who you fly for and how you are treated. Not the airframe. Please let’s drop the word license, it’s a “certificate”. License is at best “folksy” but not correct.
Does fedex offer flight benefits or non rev tickets like the legacy airlines?
Hi Lito
I believe you can buy ID90/zed fares on other airlines as a FedEx pilot.
Thanks
I appreciate ur efforts sir.
Excellent video.
Hi Daer mr . i frome afghanistan My dream is to work as a pilot in your country by following all laws. Is this possible or not?
How many years does it take to reach the major airlines in average after high school
Hi there,
If you enroll in an accelerated program, you can finish your ratings in 9 months. Then you will flight instructor for 1-1.5 years if at a busy school. During this time, I recommend getting an online degree in any subject(the airlines don't care of the subject). After flight instructing, I'd recommend flying at a regional airline. At the moment, pilots are being hired directly to major airlines with less than 1 year at a regional. 2 of my flight instructors were hired at Horizon Air in 2021, and got hired at Frontier 9 months later. Amazing times for aviation!
Best Wishes!
Omar
Thank you soo much! By the time I join it will be too late or the situation will change . Im graduating high school in 2024 and then planning to do a 4 year degree so that if something goes so I have this as a backup. After this I will join ATP accelerated prgram and finish fast. So far this is my plan
So I can expect up to 8 years of academics after high school.
@@Nakka117 My daughter just completed her 4 yr degree in aviation via online courses through Liberty University. It only took her a little over 2 yrs and included flight training as well. She is now a CFII (flight instructor) gaining hours to go further. The cost was typical for a 4 yr degree but with the added bonus of all her flight training and certifications. Approximately $120k. She just turned 20 about 3 months ago…yes I’m a proud parent. Good luck
Sir... I confused...
which airplane gives more salary per hour for pilots
Please answer sir....
what’s the difference between commercial and airline pilots?
Thank you for this great video and i have some questions. I am a 41years old freelance designer from LA and i always wanted be a pilot. I'm serious thinking about going into flight school to become a airline pilot. Do you honestly think i can make it or am i too old for it? Love to hear some realistic answers from real pilot, thanks👍
Hi Shin, I actually have some friends in flight school in their 30s and a lot of them are going through a career change. Just be aware that if you are trying to be a pilot in an airline you are forced to retire at 65 and you also need to pass your first class medical exam to remain current as a pilot. I would recommend going to an AME to see if you can pass a first class medical exam prior to aiming for flying as a career as if you do not pass you will not be able to carry passengers. You can be a flight instructor though with a 3rd class medical! I hope this made you think about it from a different view as a lot of individuals looking into becoming a pilot don’t know you have to medically qualify.
@@caitb8685 please what is AME? I will be turning 34 soon and want to become a pilot
@@Kenny-bp8ux it is the medical examiner that determines whether you qualify for your medical certificate. www.faa.gov/pilots/amelocator
@@caitb8685 thanks, I can't see any in my location and I live in Dallas Texas
@@Kenny-bp8ux make sure you choose Dallas in city AME as the search and the first class check box. I put in Dallas Texas and got some results. Let me know if that helps!
Frontier starting FO pay is now $90/hr + I have captains I know making 700k to 1M a year. Your are forgetting about soft money in the pilot contract.
No way really? That is awesome but they must be very senior.
@@benjaminmendezz He is a 19 yr Captain..BUUUT don't forget they are tripling size in the next 9 Years meaning you could be super senior (like more than 50% in the next 5 yrs) and they have contract negotiations coming next year ( better pay).
Also I would like to add that because of the pilot shortage that is everywhere airlines are increasing their pay of pilots
AA owned regionals are paying 213 per hour of you don't "flow" to American Airlines after 5 yrs.
213per hour doesn't seem bad for a regional.
It seems sweet.
does per diem cover hotel expenses?
I wish I could be a pilot, but im just not good enough. Grats to all those who succeeded.
What makes you think that you are not good enough?
Sir you didn't gave any information about american airline pilot salary.....sir could you please
Where is California is you flight school ?
How much it cost in us to become pilot?
I will know if I will see their W2 forms , the only way
I have a felony over 20 yrs back and am looking into becoming a pilot myself.... any advice or suggestions
I’d imagine you have to look into getting a pardon for whatever the offence was. First step is to Google how to get your pardon from your respective country.
The industry should pay more so I can pay for my education, what a disappointment from the airlines not giving the respect pilots deserve ✊🏼
Industry pay is the highest it’s ever been 🤷🏻♂️
I’m 25, I have my PPL, and that alone cost like 17k. I’m just so scared to put myself in massive amounts of -more- debt. I want to become a pilot so bad, but like it’s scary knowing how much money would be in the hole
Just look at it like this brotha you are investing in yourself itll pay itself off within the first year and you'll have a lifetime of a career !!
In the USA you choose where you’re gonna fly, in Brazil you’re lucky if you find a job. The pay is incredibly low. I’ll try my luck anyways. Is it possible becoming a pilot in the US if you’re Brazilian? Thank you. Enjoyed the video
Thanks for your input Gustavo. I believe a special work visa is required.
Best,
Omar
Procura o podcast do Canal Piloto. Eles têm alguns episódios exclusivamente sobre formação aeronáutica nos EUA
Great video!
Parking 'brake'
Why would you deny the "captain" position?
Hi there, think of being a pilot at an airline as two different positions. One being a first officer, the second being a captain. When you're a first officer, you will bid your schedule, vacation, time off, and any other seniority related issue based on your seniority against other first officers. So if you were hired in 2022, with 500 first officers in the company hired before you, you'd be at the bottom of seniority until more first officers are hired.
Let's say the year is now 2024 and you now have 300 first officers ahead of you, because the ones above you upgraded to captain, and you have 500 first officers hired after you, you are essentially first officer 301 out of 800, giving you a seniority of 37%. This mean you get to bid your schedule ahead of 62% of other first officers. Once you upgrade to captain, now you're bidding against other captains that are more senior to you, much more senior. This means you will likely be working weekends and holidays as a captain, but off those times as a first officer.
A lot of first officers will not take the upgrade once they reach legacy airlines such as United or American because they're making $250,000/year and can hold weekends and holidays off giving them quality time to spend with their families at home.
Hope this helps!
@@ocflightlessons well explained, learned something new. Thanks!
There are people changing careers, would it pay for someone in their late 40's to become a pilot or will they never make it to the major airlines as a Captain?
Hey there! I just turned 30 and im about to leave my finance career to go full time into flight school. These are my calculations: it will take approximately 2 years to get all my licenses (ppl, cpl, multi-ifr and frozen atpl). I will have about 250 hours after those 2 years. I will then be a CFI for about 1 year to 1.5 which will bring my total flight time to 800-1000 hours. Then its the regionals for about 2-5 years depending on the industry demand. This being said, i will mostly be able to join a major airline when i will be 40, leaving a 25 year career at a major. Within these 25 years It will probably take 10-12 years to make it to the top end of the salary scale, which means i will be able to make “the big bucks” for only 10-15 years of my career. However, i cant stress this enough, do not join aviation for the pay, you will be disappointed for the first 5-7 years. Do it for the passion of flying, its a privileged job and i cant wait to start my journey!
You will make captain but you will never see left seat on a heavy. That being said, it's not all about money. I know pilots that flew their entire career at Delta on the MD88. They loved the plane, the 2-3 hour legs and being home almost every day. Plus they got captain young as it was the most junior plane for captains and move up the seniority quickly to bid the best schedules. One of the pilots hadn't worked a single weekend in 18 years before he retired. It's all about what kind of life you want. I know a 777 First Officer at Air Canada that never wants to go captain because he's #3 on that plane at his base. He is Hong Kong native and sells his other trips to other pilots looking for overtime and he bids to fly to Hong Kong once or twice a month.
Hello,
In 2010, I accepted a base transfer to PHX, our newest base, because it was only a 45 minute commute from home. During my one of my trips, my first officer was a 51 year old that had worked in Wall Street for a few decades, made a ton of money but wasn't passionate about it, so he quit and became an airline pilot. He is now sitting left seat at a legacy.
My flight instructor from 1999 was 44 when he was hired at Expressjet in 2005. He has been a captain for United for the last 4 years. Never let anyone discourage you from your dreams. Anything is possible.
Good luck!
I'm 26 looking into becoming a pilot is it too late??
Not by any means.
I'd like to get to know you due to the fact that I want to do aviation after I'm done with my secondary school and I would like to have you as a connection
Airline pilot here in Canada we get paid 💩 and the companies don’t care. Many Canadian pilots looking south to the US where the real $ is
Excited to start next year at ATP. Trying to pick a major airline to have a goal in mind during school. Do you have a specific favorite legacy airline?
ATP as in atp flight school
@@xxxkingahmed1375 yes
@@braydenjking1590 i am pretty sure atp is connected to envoy which is connected to american airlines. did u have abachelor before atp or not?
@@xxxkingahmed1375 no bachelor, I’m still 19 but I’m in university right now
@@braydenjking1590 oh so u do plan to get a degree. i want thunking of just finishing my atp training and then going on to envoy from there
Good bro
I just accidentally click this but I think it’s destined for me to hear this? Lol it’s just Wow 🤩
Is your life worth more than $30,000 per month is the ultimate question you must answer. You also should look into how often accidents happen. The multi trillion Dollar per year industry has many dark secrets to hide.
you know nothing
You are on point with UA pilots.
thanks
Pilots get paid 30k a month?!
Deservedly so I’d rather them get paid as much as possible as they have a lot of responsibility
Once you reach Captain pay at a major airline, yes they do. Some make more.
Pilot has always been a gold collar worker and they need to pay better as American and Canadian pilots have been poached by Middle East and Asian airlines. The seniority lists were long to get upgraded and that made reaching top pay tiers unattainable for most.
Yes.
That's why investing 150k towards a pilot career will pay dividends sooner than you think.
Potential career earnings of over 7mil depending on how early you start.
Imagine having an ATP as soon as eligible.
the pay 39% taxes too :(
As a helicopter pilot I am lucky to make 90k a year.
Man every job I want to do won’t even pay enough to keep a roof over your head for the first couple years how these people do it during the first couple years? Live with parents? Get multiple roommates
A fixed pension plan was better, but this is where we are at.
Frontiers low pay to me says low quality pilots maybe
Hi Gonzo
Not at all. Most if not all pilots are trained to a very high standard in the USA.
Thanks for commenting
Do USA pilots pay 40% tax to the government?
Hello,
I'm an Egyptian and I'm planning to got to an aviation school in the US.
My question is if i completed the program and completed the required 1500 hrs, will i be able to work as a pilot in an American airline as a non American citizen?
do you fly in egypt airs?
I know you’re a flight school talking to the lowest common denominator, e.g. the zero time maybe-I-want-to-be-a-pilot person, but stop calling it a pilot LICENSE. It’s a CERTIFICATE. You’re making my OCD flare up.
90 hours per month is a lot of flying, typical line is about 80. to be in B787,B777,B767-400 CA (left seat at that rate), you need aprox 20 years with the airline. Before you get there you'll make much less, on average half.
Hi there
Thanks for your contribution. Some airlines differentiate credit vs block. Credit is what you get paid, block is how much you fly. For example, you may block 5 hours from LAX-JFK, but credit 5:25. My reference was to credit for your entire month. At my former airline, you could credit 100 hours per month, but only block 80 hours depending on how your schedule turned out.
Fly safe
@@ocflightlessons You mentions United, and United Contract goes by hours. Each hour is a credit, even if you have computer based training (CBT) is credited in hours per contract. Most lines are 80 hours and if you have CBTs that's few hours on top of that (CBTs are quarterly and pay 1 hours for each 3 hour at the computer). Contract guaranties MPG of 73 hours reserve line and 70 hours regular line, on average pilots get 78-80 hours regular line. Reserve gets 73 until pilot flies above 73 hours for the month. However, no pilot should ever calculate salaries on average only on contract MPG. Please don't say what 10% of top senior pilots make after 25 years in United, it's misleading to the public.
@@Veed3300 thanks for clarifying 👍🏼
Looks like Russel Peters
but you still have to retire at 65.
Only from the airlines. There’s are guys in their later 60’s and early 70’s flying corporate.
@@av8tordonny398 Cargo too.
Not anymore. It's 67 now.
UPS & FedEx better than the legacies by far.
How so?
Legacy airlines do not include southwest airlines and Alaska airlines
Why would anyone give up being an airline captain to own a flight school at his age
Hard to believe he has 20,000 plus hours
*cries in Canadian*
🥴🥴🥴$28,000 as a CFII
Who can work for 20k in 2022?
20k a month
I get a job in USA . I am indian ?
yes
Please, no. All foreigners leach off us.