10) The Comedy. 9) Not as much Goku Time!!! The other's get to shine, especially Vegeta. 8) The Tone and Music. It's much more Dragonball-esc, I like it. 7) I like these New Characters ALOT more than GT's new Characters. 6) The added lore. GT expanded a lot of the lore, but Super added new, interesting lore ENTIRELY!!! 5) The Slice-of-life Moments. We don't get too much of these in GT and I really like them :) 4) Goku not being a kid. 3) Goku not being a kid! 2) Goku not being a kid!!! 1) GOKU NOT BEING A KID!!!!!!!!'
Well Vegeta was important in GT and don't forgot the baby arc were goten gohan and Vegeta all had awesome fights. If anything I thing super gives less attention to the other characters
There is a lot of character development- Krillin started training again Gohan's development Vegeta as well And I think Pilaf is going to play a significant role in Universe 6 arc.
Super actually portrays the Characters as being strong. Beerus and Goku nearly destroy the universe champa and beerus if they were to get into a fight would destroy universe 6 and 7. Can't say the same for GT characters who should be strong but don't do anything impressive at all.
+Max Carter -- Yet you have Goten and Trunks having some trouble against an Earth's snake, Champa getting exhausted after walking 2 miles under the sun and Goku & Vegeta getting tired after cutting a small area of grass while kid Goku in the original DB was farming with bare hands entire lands. And you also have Beerus firing energy blasts that hit the ground yet destroying nothing. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that they are not strong. PORTRAYED strong though? All we have is that episode 12. Quotes about destruction of the entire universe we had in GT for Omega Shenlong (we even had for Kid Buu and Cell in Z).
+Consistent Dragonball Channel Actually they were not having any trouble with it, they were just going easy on the snake becuz they might kill it. Champa getting tired and goku & vegeta tired from cutting grass were gag scenes to portray how tired they were or lazy Champa is. Beerus has a great control of Ki, if he din't then Bulma would have died when he slapped him.
Bangar Raju-- Going easy at it? How so? If they were portrayed anywhere near as strong as they really are Trunks should had just flicked his finger and knock the snake unconscious. Instead he proceeded to keep punching it. Same episode Goku felt the need to Instant Transmission himself to save Goten from falling off the cliff. And the arguments you make about gag scenes and Ki control can equally be made for GT you know. Here were are not talking about headcanon explanations but about portrayal of strength. And besides episode 12 there was absolutely no other episode which portrayed the characters stronger than GT did. If anything they made Vegeta dying from a mere planetary explosion and Goku getting injured by a ray gun.
Things that DBS did better than DBGT [Opinion - Based List] 10. Better use of side characters 9. Better "new transformation" [SSG and SSB instead of SS4] 8. Better use of Freeza 7. Better character development 6. Better narrative 5. Less plot holes 4. Goku it's a kid 3. Better new characters 2. Better expansions for the story 1. Better "story arcs" What are your thoughts? [Thanks for reading]
EmersonPlays thank god someone says ss4>ssg/ssb I mean just because it looks cool doesn’t mean it’s better and ssb vegeta is badass x infinity divided by infinity x squared zero
10 they shit on some side char to the point of being forgot is better fate (tien) 9 it recolor ssj 4supposed to be saiyan prime with no downside yet they don't throw it everywhere while super is opposite 8 consider gt don't have freiza at all it no competition but freiza power blowjob up is kinda bs 7understandable depend opinion 6. same as above gt is like adventure game it end story of someone you follow Super is a fighting game you fight forever 5 nah super plot even by vague toriyama standard is a lot 4 it to neft goku so he didn't steamrolled everything 3.undetstanable gt throw side char like original db 2.depend but for me it worse 1 trunk arc fate of hero is seeing his family die and everything they stand for just lost to a bs of kai power scale gore mf god and his body swap still have god power bull shit so no
Comedy in Gt be like- Gohan: Looks like I have to start out using the ten pound DUMBbells Me:...da fuck was that? Comedy in Super be like - Gohan: I've been slacking in training but my punches are still harder than yamchas Me:BAHA Daaaaaayumm!
I don't have have 10 things but a few things super has done better is being inspired and influenced by Dragon Ball without making Goku a kid and making use of more characters other than Goku. I think it has better comedy thus far as well. There are certainly more if I put thought into it but those two stand out the most. So far I prefer GT to Super but this new arc looks very promising. We won't know which was ok really better (regardless of canon) until it's all over. Super still has a lot of potential.
Now, this has always confused me since day one. GT: Numerous plot holes Numerous problems Everything revolves around the weakest parts. Lame action scenes are lame. Super: Bad animation in some parts. Awesome characters. Awesome villains. Great stories. Great concepts. Awesome action! So why is it, after all of this, that people are being turned off by this series and comparing it to GT??? Super isn't even finished yet, and people are shaming it??? WHY?!
LOL super with plotholes cant even be counted anymore, theres basically plotholes almost every episode. none of the arcs are follow naturally, i mean future trunks arc just came out of no where.
Super has way too many plot holes, good characters only piccolo,vegetables, and gohan are actual, the others characteristics is either too weak, too strong, or too stupiid
This isn't even a question. DragonBall super is far superior than GT. When watching GT I was so bored. Super I'm excited for the next episode. Super is great besides the revival of f ark.
Super keeps the designs of the characters people grew to love, where GT changes everyone. I mean goku's a tanned little kid, vegeta has a pedophile design. Way too different. 😤
Well when you're making a continuation of a popular series, you'd expect to keep characters the same to not change it completely. GT turns that shit all around with their designs. Only a handful of characters look the same.
+Ikrani maybe ssj4 was cool with respect to design . But you have to consider that they didn't make everybody a pussy . They haven't shown much of pan yet , but vegeta is actually on par with goku . Gohan is training , and he had an excuse for not training , as he is a father . Hercules shows that he actually can care about people other than himself . Master Rishi actually trained and is again slightly significant . Piccolo isn't a pussy , and is not being used to "get goku out of hell" even though goku knows that he can just get out by going through yemma's drawer entrance . Trunk s doesn't get crippled by a fucking car crash. Ginyu is back , and not just a useless frog in a pond . God ki . Literally the entire dbgt was about goku and his ssj4 .... Every main was killed in ft by goku .
The Gamer Hercule showed he cared about other people during the Buu Saga. Don't know what you're on about. Gohan was training all throughout Z. Vegeta's always more or less been on par with Goku (again, Buu Saga) Basically, what I'm getting from you is that DB Super has made zero character progress since The Buu Saga.
Ikrani dude . i'm talking about how super is better than gt ... not z better than gt. also what are you talking about? they have made so much character progress ... hercule has a role as a grandfather . videl helps goku become a god . roshi is significant and krillin actually believes in himself . every new character till now has played some significant role . in gt they literally underdeveloped the characters .
It's kinda funny how super is getting compared to GT when super has only retold movies and it still shits on GT just imagine how it's gonna be when super gets a good month or two into its new content
Personally, GT bored me because in every fight Goku could hqve just turned SSJ immediately and won but he dragged everything out qnd the entire series seemed so dragged out.... As for Super, they found a new transformation to use against Beerus and Goku still couldn't win, which made it more interesting to watch. Super wins so far
@@Ignasimp yeah becauce in super and z Goku just transform based on how strong the opponent is, while in gt we know that the villain get powered up, we know that the villain became much stronger, but Goku didnt even go super saiyan or anything, i mean why? I can tolerated Goku didnt go super saiyan in dbs cauce he can use his god ki even in his base form, but GT even though kid Goku in GT was 10x stronger than SSJ 3 Goku in DBZ, but he still holding back again a very stronger oponent
i think the biggest problem with gt was it tried SO HARD to bring back db vibes and dbz ones to they are NOT the same super's problem was it focusing on introducing characters and recons rather than a focus on its own story this vid was made too early super is currently LEAGUES above gt now that its temporarily over
Why I think Super is better because: 1. they didn't build upon ss4 goku and rather it's god ki. It makes us keep guessing and a different way to predict transformations. 2. filling in the gap from end of Buu to Uub that dbz ended with. we want to know what happens in between. 3. yes it's more funnier than GT 4. they brought back future trunks, which other shows sometimes never revisit prior arcs. 5. they let vegeta skip another form, the red god form. also near the end of super, they show us that saiyans can take many paths to get stronger such as goku branched from SSBlue to Ultra instinct Silver while vegeta went from blue to royal blue lol. Also Kale becoming Green like Broly. 6. Story is more vast because of exploring other universes. curious about the universes that didn't have to participate in the tournament of power. they must have even more powerful characters in there than Jiren. 7. Revisited old characters a lot better in super than in GT. Where is Launch tho? lol. 8. Super gave their characters major power boosts like 17, Buu getting ripped to shreds, Frieza becoming Golden, and other Z warriors too. DBZ leading up to GT gave the feeling like each character arc had already reached the ceiling for power levels like frieza staying the same, cell and androids staying the same power level, piccolo staying as strong as a "super namek" and Goku being stuck at SS3 and SS4 like that's the limit. but Super fixed all that. also, Saiyan girls can become super saiyans in Super, while pan didn't even turn super saiyan. IDK if that's because she was 1/4th saiyan but she was beast mode in the super episodes lol. 9. Super never mixed up canon and non-canon stuff like GT did such as Gogeta. he was only in movie form, not episodes. 10. in super they showed who is omni King and omnipotent beings like God of Destruction, and angels. Ranks of power that may or not be possible for goku to obtain seems more realistic than GT Gogeta being so powerful that the Evil Dragonball Dragons can't compete, while Vegetto couldn't even stop Fused Zamasu and Goku Black
When BoG and RF came out, they had the title of Dragon Ball Z. IMO, no matter how they transition, those movies are meant to be an actual continuation. So, just by that alone I prefer Super over GT.
Bangar Raju Yeah. DB/Z never really went back to explore things. And even if they were threats for a few episodes, Frieza and Cell were still threats in non-filler.
BoG and FG was fillers between Z and GT timeline... You ain't a real Dragon Ball series fan because that is the poorest reason to say that alone is better than GT....
Okay so we’re here now at the end of super with 1 episode left at the end of the Tournament of Power... 1. Ultra Instinct 2. Vegeta ascends Super Saiyan Blue 3. Android 17 MVP 4. Frieza is a good guy 5. Jiren 6. Kefla 7. Zamasu and Future Trunks Arc 8. Hit is totally badass 9. Bulma’s involvement was much better 10. Hakai
+EDS BREAD No, god no. GT is the ONLY part of the Dragon Ball Universe I despise. And I mean the ONLY. Dragon Ball Evolution had no involvement with Toriyama or any of the cast for that matter so it doesn't count. But I don't despise Dragon Ball Sagas (original xbox game) I don't despise ANY aspect from Dragon Ball (first series) I didn't despise Mr. Satan in the Cell saga Not even the episode 5 animation was something I despise because I understood it was made that week with a new animation that DBZ had never adapted before. But GT had NOTHING. The closest thing that I came to liking was the opening theme (falling under your spell)
Jo-Smooth I didn't like GT because: 1. Goku became a kid again, essentially devolving and making you feel less attached 2. Managing to ruin Vegeta 3. Basically not using any other goddamn character than Goku, Trunks, Vegeta, Or Pan 4. Lack of character development for everyone, Vegeta included as all he did was settle 5. Inconsistencies and Plot Holes, I know Z had them, but at least they were for a reason that improved the story, not simply forgetting (example: pure saiyan's hair never changes; Vegeta gets whatever the hell that was on his head 6. The color panel. Yes, the colors had no saturation, thus looking drained of life and overall made it look older than Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z 7. The comedy was dry and not innovative in any way. I laughed in that filler episode with Goku and Piccolo learning to drive more than I did in the entire GT series 8. What happened to Tien? Why do Goten and Gohan look virtually the same? Why isn't Gohan doing jack shit? 9. Aging everyone so far ahead that they have outlived their usefulness. Take Krillin for example, fan-favorite in Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. In GT he was an old geezer with a somehow aged android 18 10. It strayed so far from what made Dragon Ball great. Taking chances is how you find success and mistakes are meant to be learned from. But GT swung the completely wrong way and decided to stay on that crash course through-out it's entirety, which is ultimately what screwed it over. not because of a banwagon. Also, dende asking for popo to get a med kit.
+PGL Clowned Fair enough, though Vegeta wasn't ruined. As for character usage, while I'm not happy about that either (Gohan is my favorite character) they did just come out the Buu arc, where most characters weren't really used. They kept that format. I don't think it was that different from DB and Z. A while back I watched all 3 straight through, and it *does* feel like the final chapter of at least the anime verse of Z
Jo-Smooth In dragon ball (original) Goku wasn't that much more powerful than the others and he didn't even become the strongest in the series until he trained with Korin and eventually Kami. Far past half way through the series. GT had NO usage of other charecters compared to Dragon Ball. DBZ at least gave others interesting fights and screen time in the Buu saga. (Making of Gotenks, Gotenks vs Buu, Ultimate Gohan vs Super Buu, Goku and Vegeta being surpassed, Piccolo, Yamcha and Krillin had some time in otherworld, etc.)
I couldn't agree more about your thoughts on GT. I feel if GT were more fleshed out that it could have been amazing. They had great concepts but a piss poor execution "most of the time". Gt just needed more passion behind the project and it could have been as good or better than Z or super in my opinion. I personally have a special place in my heart for GT and I prefer the animation and character designs/concepts in GT and the fact that the characters actually look accurate to there age.
I'm just going to say I agree with all 10 of these things, but I was surprised, because of the thumbnail of the video, that Vegeta wasn't one of the 10 things. I know you guys mentioned side characters being better developed, but Vegeta is done 1million times better in Super. Whether it's from the fact that he's used for comedy, since his banter with Goku feels very nostalgic, or the fact that he feels a lot more equal to Goku in power. He doesn't have that stupid old feel to him like in GT and he's not possessed by the main villain so he actually has screen time, and he feels like he has weight in this series. I know he's essential to the greatest transformation of all time, SSJ4 Gogeta, but he's not even his own character at that point. The only thing GT does better with Vegeta is keep to his character model, I don't know how the fuck Vegeta grew 4 inches or whatever in Super, but it's really weird. I've grown up with Vegeta being short, or getter taller but only because he's buff as hell. You could argue that it's a slap in the face to people who are short. Vegeta was short, but he has the most pride out of every character and that's admirable. He doesn't let his size be a shortcoming (lol), but for some reason he's taller than characters he short be shorter than. I don't know what Toriyama meant by doing this, but... I don't agree with it.
Already in the Buu arc he didn't look so short anymore. He was truly short only in Saiyan and Namek sagas. I don't think it's an insult to the short people - on the contrary, the whole Z showed many times that a shorter character can be easily a way better and stronger warrior. Frieza was extremely short compared to Goku and yet he was massively more powerful until Goku went SSJ1. Vegeta in his first appearance also counts. Now Zeno is short and he's the most powerful being in all universes.
I totally agree with you, there are a lot off memorable new character like Hit who was only there for 1 arc became so memorable and many even want him to return in Universal Survival arc and I even liked the concept of Zamasu and Black goku , the black goku arc was really well executed too (except for the ending , but it was still good for the most time).
1. The story in DBS is much better than "oh look all this time there were a hidden set of dragon balls in the lookout and somehow the radar never detected it wait but how are we going to make new enemies? I know! We will create a character that goes into people's body and gets their powers but wait thats not everything! We will make a super 17 arc that has no point so we will create it just to have a reason to do another boring saga and there we will fuck the power scale! The dragon balls will break and create super powerful enemies even when we know Shenron is weak and was killed by King Piccolo :D but thats not everything because we are going to give you Super Saiyan 4 that makes you an adult for no reason and stealing the golden ape idea from what vegeta said in dbz on planet namek! Also don't forget that you don't even need to train to gain or control super saiyan 4 you can just use bulma's tank and then become one without training for even one day in your entire life! Because who needs Super Saiyan 2 or 3 when you just can skip to 4! :)" I have a lot more things to say but then I will finish next week so I will finish it here.
Stronger doesnt mean better sometimes , and aesteticaly its not that great . its just a recolor of the first ssj and the god thing to justify the strenght is just MEH ( imop). I can understand why they cant ( or wouldn’t)
@@carloscolon606 In my opinion SSJ 4 desighn was way cooler than SSB or SSG It really had unique and creative desighned in it But saying SSJ 4 stronger than SSB or SSG I think its kinda way to far, heck even SSJ 4 10× Kamehameha Goku couldn't even beat the crap out of Omega Shenron and even worse Ultra full power SSJ 4 Goku and Vegita still couldnt beat this guy considering Omega was at that time was around Multiverse level thats the same level SSG and SSB at If SSJ 4 was stronger than SSB or SSG he could easily clap Omega
Tbh I never even watched the whole 64 episodes. I got so bored and I stopped in the middle and then watched the last arc. The thing that made me hate the series so much is that they treated Cell and Frieza like jokes, ugh the way they were defeated is unacceptable. 2, it's not canon and I'm pretty sure I saw Cooler in there.
I also think that super so far has much better relationship and interaction between goku and vegeta, In GT it felt that they kind of just used vegeta in the baby saga as a second hand villain then slapped in the extra episodes when he went ssj4. In super it makes me remember some of the old rivalries more and feel that it is evolving to be a much more intricate storyline with the two's age old competition to be stronger.
why GT is better than Super so far For a start Animation:speed lines,debris,more frames of animation,better choreography,better battle damage,less flat 2d still shots,Impact flashes which adds a real life BAM to the animation..GT wins that department Art: Gt had a Organic feeling and creative hand painted environments which created a atmosphere where as Super looks like Microsoft paint every episode Characters: now this i'm split,in GT they rebooted Trunks character and made everyone weak but in super they have rebooted EVERY character to the point they all have a different feel,GT Videl is more true to Z's videl than supers posh nerd GT actually feels like a bad version of DB and DBZ were as super feels like a bad version of a gag manga with Dragon Ball characters Music: GT's west and Original both beat Supers crappy score that sounds like it should be for a carnival lol GT actually had traveling and adventure super just transports everyone to new location and stayed there for the full plot untill its time to move on so far,I could go on and but you get my point,GT is a superior show so far FACT,it's only preference which is opinion
they made goku a kid because they were trying to rememiss the whole dragon ball quest, pan was bulma, trunks was krillin. it was basically a huge tribute... well for the first 20 episodes
The pattern of turning villains into good guys and expanding their abilities continued in super and i dig that. like how bu and frieza are members of the universe team and bu can utilize his evil versions now positively pretty cool
Frieza only made a temporary truce with Goku and his team, because their universe was in danger of being erased. He helped Goku only for himself to survive.
@@unromanoarecareanaveragero8275 Thats true, and I wrote this pre black frieza. In the long run Frieza could be the biggest threat in dragonball history. Or help in another tournament for self preservation... Hard to say lol.
I liked Super overall. It doesn't have as many big, emotional moments as Z, but it executes its small moments and humor far better than GT and balances them better than Z. Far. Far. Better. As for animation, even when the character models were off, there was generally some pretty awesome movements and kinesis being suggested, better than Z and, again, leagues above GT. And when character models were on and the action was cooking? It rose higher than Z. Moments from the Trunks Arc and TOP come to mind.
My thoughts are The characters are slightly better and they didn't turn Goku into a kid But the animation is much worse. Plus it looks like it's getting good now.
1. The introduction of ultra instinct 2. Showing krillens life style 3. Showering jerin 4. Frieza 5. The tournament was longer 6 the muitlverse 7 introducing Angel's 8. Introducing 17 again I liked super 17 but i like him better as a good guy 9. Andriod 18 was more relevant in the show 10. Future trunks and gohan bond
Have you seen the DVD artwork for Dragon Ball Super Season 1? I'm not sure if it's legit, but it has Goku vs Beerus on the cover and it looked really cool.
+Bangar Raju Neither are Supertards who blindly follow Toriyama. Super did do stuff right but at least GT actually sticks to continuity. Super shits on it.
I think Dragon ball super will end just like how DBZ began. One last fight between Goku and Vegeta but on a much higher scale with lots at risk. Think about it, in the Resurection of F movie Whis reminded Beerus that he was the one who ordered freeza to destroy Planet Vegeta and Beerus had to shush Whis. Now let's say they bring that into the series and Vegeta finds out, I don't think he will be to happy. Plus we know Vegeta finds out about Planet Salad in Universe 6, more sayians. To sum it all up, I believe Vegeta and Goku will get into a heated arguement over this and Vegeta may say fuck Universe 7 I'm going to Universe 6 so I can be Prince and he will have all the sayians attack Beerus for what he did. Goku won't like this and he will be on the side of Beerus and universe 7. An ultimate clash between universe 7&6. Sayians vs Z warriors. Beerus vs Vegeta. Champa vs Goku? and the final battle, to see who really is the strongest, Goku vs Vegeta. GOD VS GOD.
+Danny Saldana it's not whis and vados place to interfere, Whis never stopped Goku vs Beerus, the frieza fight was never stopped, only thing they will interfere with is Beerus vs Champa.
+54chevy01 your right but if this threatens the destruction of the universe then of course they will interfere in this other than that i could see them fighting and whis and vados are just watching them
I didn't dislike Kid Goku in GT, but I did dislike how they portrayed him. I also adore how they are just chilling with gods. Fucking gods! C'mon, that's awesome.
I am actually split on Frost. On one hand, I have been wanting to see a non-evil member of Frieza race for ages( I mean, come on, think about it: Both his father and his brother are stronger then he is, or at least, stronger then he was prior to reaching Golden Frieza form. So, it seems implied to a extent that Frieza power level, prior to his training, is actually LOWER then average for his species, perhaps, preciselly, due to his lack of training. And, if there is a whole species out there that is more powerfull then Frieza and the universe wasnt reduced to ash yet, you have to tell me that at least some of then are nice ). On another hand... I just dont think that what they did with Frost was half bad either, making him still evil, just also a very clever manipulator. It is one of those cases of "Well, what they did was nice, I just wished they had done something else"
it would have been nice to see more upcoming earth fighters other than trunks and goten. they would have been able to juice some fun fillers out of those fighters. or even fun side stories. like while all the main z fighters are doing something important, we can see the younger z fighters battling some monster on earth or something. i know it's only been like 3 years since the planet was purged, but still. it's strange that we haven't seen master roshi training anyone new or bringing any new fighters into the fold. they could say he just decided not to train anyone, but he didn't want to train anyone after goku and krillin too. there should be other earth fighters who could convince roshi to train them. or heck, they could even go to other z fighters for training. even yamcha is stronger than roshi. why are there no new z fighters other than trunks and goten?
Vegeta was off character in GT his pride would never allow the Blutz Waves and not only that he will never let goku pass him that much in gt that's why gt is crap
Vegeta would rather die than develop that much gap between him and goku.That's just his personality and enough reason why GT sucks because he's one of the most beloved characters.
Vegeta is prideful yeah but he wouldn't let the universe be destroyed because of it. He was so against fusing with Goku in the Buu Saga but he still did it because there was no one else but their fusion that could defeat Super Buu (Beerus and Whis didn't exist at the time). Did I like him using the blutz wave machine? No not really, but I can look past it because it's good character development.
+The one I dunno. I thought him accepting Bulma's help was him growing as a character, prioritizing saving the world and killing the bad guy vs. letting his pride nearly destroy the world _again_. Took 2 shows and 7 arcs, but the dude finally got his priorities straightened out. Plus, it was either that or never reach SSJ 4 and thus essentially give up the race with Goku.
I just never liked how Frieza took 4 months to reach Goku and Vegeta's level. If it were me I would've taken 2 years. Four months just makes it seem pointless.
DBS hater detected. Believe it or not, DBS improved considerably since the BoG and RoF sagas. It's way better than GT in every possible way now. Character development and story in Future Trunks arc just annihilates everything from GT.
Dragon ball Z never had the best animation but with super..it was a huge fucking improvement, Black goku isn't just a clone he has so much BIO work done on him he makes the perfect villain "I hate all humans and think there mistakes" you think that's a Goku clone and he got beat trained and was even stronger than Goku...I never seen a charater stronger than goku except for Cell.. all the other times he'll probobly get his ass kicked but he'll come back and win, and gross romance..I don't remember a kiss or sex scene in the this arc or any DBS arc ever so far...but you know whats gross that people try so very hard to bring down every new DBZ thing...first a game now the reboot so fuck it
Lol no Super has shitty art at least gt knew how to draw. Gt also had more original ideas than super. Frieza back again for revenge like it's another cooler movie? Lame. Gohan and vegeta are character breaking pussies in super. The whole god power ups are confusing. Ssj4? Badass. The idea that there is some consequence in using the dragonballs so often that they bring out harbingers of death and destruction that they have to deal with? Awesome and makes the dragonballs not an ultimate cop out to bring back characters anymore. Super is average and unoriginal and that's all there is to it.
As far as I am concerned Dragonball GT is one of the 12 Universes mainly because Dragonball Super introduced 2 new Super Saiyan Transformations. Super Saiyan God, and Ascended Super Saiyan God. Whereas Dragonball GT gave us Golden Great Ape and Super Saiyan 4. And Pan isn't even born yet where in GT they had her live her life to be a Great Grandmother.
Eyeless Jack Lets do a head count shall we? We get Beerus and Whis for the second time then Frieza for the 40th time then a tournament.....never seen that one before along with some of Piccolo babysitting and Vegeta being a maid. Yeah Super is so much better. *sarcasm*
As far as concepts, Super has a lot more, however, GT scores well with both the Black Star Dragon balls and the end result of using them. I also think it scores well with the negative energy affects on them, cracking them and causing splits in dimensions by which Hell opens up. From this comes the best villains concept hands down of the series. Had they ended Goku's kid years either in Hell or when he finally got out, affected by the negative energy, then they could've made each Dragon like Ice, Nova and Syn. Even if having the goofy characters is fine, if at some point they transform on a level like Janenba.
Yeah I agree the comedy in Super was way better. In fact my favorite comedic moment would have to be the scene where Vegeta accidentally touches one of Beerus's hourglasses and then Goku uses Instant Transmission to teleport it to Whis where it explodes right in his face.
I say GT is better than Super because in GT they take the villains much more seriously than in Super, GT has better continuity, better designs, better consistent animation, and has many more new characters than in Dragon Ball Super (so far). Also, Super has way more plot holes and inconsistencies than GT which further proves that GT is better than Super.
xXeliteJazz Regardless if you like GT or not, to me GT take their a little more serious and they were much more a threat. In Super, I don't find Beerus and Frieza intimidating. Sure you can find them as threat, but when you really think about it, Beerus wasn't fully intent on killing Goku and Frieza was pretty tame when compared to what he was in the previous installments. Plus the pointless comedy put in the scenes with the villains ruins the seriousness for me.
im not really a guy who likes to create DBZ theories and all tha but...i somehow think that champa WILL win the tournament and get the earth to his universe...i can imagine how it will result to all the Zfighters will try to go back to heir own and have to defeat champa in that struggle...i think that will make for some nice arc
Super actually focus on other characters then goku... The universe 6 arc, then goku black and its current story is awesome... SSblue is by far better then ssj4
Mark Riederer No, no, Blue is nowhere close to SSJ 4. It's just a boring recolor. "Current story is awesome", yeah, but TOP arc is really weak when it comes to story. Also, GT had way more amazing story. Baby saga and Shadow Dragons are awesome.
I think Super is better than GT overall. They are both pretty bad compared to dbz, but at least Super is capable of being entertaining and has good fights.
Dragonball GT was great until the beginning of the Super 17 saga. That ruined it and it left not much to work with for the evil dragon arc. But season 1 and the baby saga were fantastic. Goku being a kid was pretty cool too, especially when people keep thinking he's was younger than he was.
Why? When he was actually first introduced, Frieza was pretty much the biggest badass in history. Then later arcs came and castrated him. ... Is it really asking so much for him to get his dignity back?
One of my most FAVORITE thing Super did better than GT is simply put: *CHARACTER DESIGNS* Goku new outfit looks fitting, I love Vegeta's new Saiyan jumpsuit, Bulma still looking hot even for her age, Krillin looks more like he ORIGINALLY should being a monk and all (and I love his hair style), Gohan looks way more lovable & lighthearted now than he was in the Majin days, Mr.Satan not bald and still awesome looking, and of course Pan looks so flipping adorable as a baby. I hope she grows up more kind hearted and nice like End Of Z than how bratty she was in GT. When it comes to the designs, Super *DESTROYS* GT in that category.
1: Goku not being a kid. 2: Much more interesting characters 3: NO FUCKING ANNOYING PAN. 4: Padding isn't nearly as boring and long. 5: Much better direction and world building. 6: More interesting villains, including the re-introduction of my all time favorite Dragon Ball villain. And his ki blast wasn't deflected by a power pole twirl.. 7: Much better comedy. 8: Much better animation and artwork, at least after it recovered from its problems before the 10th episode or so. 9: Much better use of side characters, including what they do when they aren't fighting. 10: Super cute Bulma...hey, I love this, even if it's minor!
Some things I think Super does better than GT (not many things but there are a few): 1. comedy, 2. Slice of Life and characterization, 3. New Concepts, 4. Better usage of characters (mostly Goku and Vegeta, but at least its better than Goku and Pan, then later just Goku like in GT), 5. Showing the progression of power (especially when Goku fought Beerus and nearly destroyed the universe, GT sucked at showing power progression).
two things super did better are they used Senzu beans. and second they realized that they had three wishes . with the earth. dragonballs . that alone destroys Gt completely
i can't believe ANY of you mentioned consistency, holy shit! From the very start of DBS you see flashbacks, not re-animated, no, LITERAL grabs of the old shows, so that people know what happened in the past. Toriyama is known for forgetting important details, even entire characters, the fact that DBS has so many references to past events is a complete 180. It even fixed mistakes that were still in the movies! You can see the research that went into DBS! Honestly, those flashbacks from so many years ago is a testament of love. The fact that so many (potential) plot holes get addressed, too. Why not use the S dragon balls to wish for another eart was a HUGE plot hole, next episode BAM addressed it. DBS is probably the most consistent dragon ball show created period.
-GT is amazing, but I hate that Goku is the only "useful" character in the plot. -Super is amazing, but the transformations aren't as creative-looking and too much "ATATATATATA" SSJ4 looks more like a SSJ God than SSJ God
i think GT would have been better if goku wasn't wished back to a kid
+Edwin Talavera yea
+Geekdom101 Then we would have a completely different type of GT
+Edwin Talavera I think theres way more stuff to be changed for that to be true
+Edwin Talavera why?
Then it wouldn't be Dragon ball GT...it would be something really different
Dragon Ball: Tournaments
Dragon Ball Z: Survival
Dragon Ball GT: Dragons
Dragon Ball Super: Gods
Agreed :)
One way to look at it 😂
Similar one (threat level):
Dragon Ball - humans
Dragon Ball Z - aliens
Dragon Ball Super - gods
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Gene Jost I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
10) The Comedy.
9) Not as much Goku Time!!! The other's get to shine, especially Vegeta.
8) The Tone and Music. It's much more Dragonball-esc, I like it.
7) I like these New Characters ALOT more than GT's new Characters.
6) The added lore. GT expanded a lot of the lore, but Super added new, interesting lore ENTIRELY!!!
5) The Slice-of-life Moments. We don't get too much of these in GT and I really like them :)
4) Goku not being a kid.
3) Goku not being a kid!
2) Goku not being a kid!!!
1) GOKU NOT BEING A KID!!!!!!!!'
This is true xD
I kind of like the idea of Goku turn into a kid but it's just my opinion.
Well Vegeta was important in GT and don't forgot the baby arc were goten gohan and Vegeta all had awesome fights. If anything I thing super gives less attention to the other characters
There is a lot of character development-
Krillin started training again
Gohan's development
Vegeta as well
And I think Pilaf is going to play a significant role in Universe 6 arc.
I found nothing funny in super its quite boring
Super actually portrays the Characters as being strong.
Beerus and Goku nearly destroy the universe
champa and beerus if they were to get into a fight would destroy universe 6 and 7.
Can't say the same for GT characters who should be strong but don't do anything impressive at all.
Agreed.
true
+Max Carter -- Yet you have Goten and Trunks having some trouble against an Earth's snake, Champa getting exhausted after walking 2 miles under the sun and Goku & Vegeta getting tired after cutting a small area of grass while kid Goku in the original DB was farming with bare hands entire lands. And you also have Beerus firing energy blasts that hit the ground yet destroying nothing. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that they are not strong. PORTRAYED strong though? All we have is that episode 12. Quotes about destruction of the entire universe we had in GT for Omega Shenlong (we even had for Kid Buu and Cell in Z).
+Consistent Dragonball Channel Actually they were not having any trouble with it, they were just going easy on the snake becuz they might kill it. Champa getting tired and goku & vegeta tired from cutting grass were gag scenes to portray how tired they were or lazy Champa is. Beerus has a great control of Ki, if he din't then Bulma would have died when he slapped him.
Bangar Raju-- Going easy at it? How so? If they were portrayed anywhere near as strong as they really are Trunks should had just flicked his finger and knock the snake unconscious. Instead he proceeded to keep punching it. Same episode Goku felt the need to Instant Transmission himself to save Goten from falling off the cliff. And the arguments you make about gag scenes and Ki control can equally be made for GT you know. Here were are not talking about headcanon explanations but about portrayal of strength. And besides episode 12 there was absolutely no other episode which portrayed the characters stronger than GT did. If anything they made Vegeta dying from a mere planetary explosion and Goku getting injured by a ray gun.
Things that DBS did better than DBGT
[Opinion - Based List]
10. Better use of side characters
9. Better "new transformation"
[SSG and SSB instead of SS4]
8. Better use of Freeza
7. Better character development
6. Better narrative
5. Less plot holes
4. Goku it's a kid
3. Better new characters
2. Better expansions for the story
1. Better "story arcs"
What are your thoughts?
[Thanks for reading]
EmersonPlays thank god someone says ss4>ssg/ssb
I mean just because it looks cool doesn’t mean it’s better and ssb vegeta is badass x infinity divided by infinity x squared zero
10 they shit on some side char to the point of being forgot is better fate (tien)
9 it recolor
ssj 4supposed to be saiyan prime with no downside yet they don't throw it everywhere while super is opposite
8 consider gt don't have freiza at all it no competition but freiza power blowjob up is kinda bs
7understandable depend opinion
6. same as above gt is like adventure game it end story of someone you follow
Super is a fighting game you fight forever
5 nah super plot even by vague toriyama standard is a lot
4 it to neft goku so he didn't steamrolled everything
3.undetstanable gt throw side char like original db
2.depend but for me it worse
1 trunk arc fate of hero is seeing his family die and everything they stand for just lost to a bs of kai power scale gore mf god and his body swap still have god power bull shit so no
Super did better job making Vegeta reach Goku's level with his own power and not some meaningless machine
and Piccolo is useful again
Mr Popo Exactly more than Goku
***** yes
***** :)
Pan doesn't talk in Super, that was the best part. I could not stand Pan.
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I couldn't stand that a character like pan LOVED Goku in DBZ but then disrespectful to Goku in GT.
Comedy in Gt be like-
Gohan: Looks like I have to start out using the ten pound DUMBbells
Me:...da fuck was that?
Comedy in Super be like -
Gohan: I've been slacking in training but my punches are still harder than yamchas
Me:BAHA Daaaaaayumm!
Agreed LOL 😂😂
lolll
wait a min he said that LOL
+Lycoon Comedy in GT: "Dende get the medkit". Though they probably intended it to be serious...
Comedy in super
Berues: I wan pudding
Bulma:no pudding
Me: hahahahahhaaha
Vegeta isn't a pus in Super
Truuuuuuuu
Agreed
+King Sly vegeta was a badass in GT
+Joker Central tru
Thank You
I don't have have 10 things but a few things super has done better is being inspired and influenced by Dragon Ball without making Goku a kid and making use of more characters other than Goku. I think it has better comedy thus far as well. There are certainly more if I put thought into it but those two stand out the most.
So far I prefer GT to Super but this new arc looks very promising. We won't know which was ok really better (regardless of canon) until it's all over. Super still has a lot of potential.
Now, this has always confused me since day one.
GT: Numerous plot holes
Numerous problems
Everything revolves around the weakest parts.
Lame action scenes are lame.
Super: Bad animation in some parts.
Awesome characters.
Awesome villains.
Great stories.
Great concepts.
Awesome action!
So why is it, after all of this, that people are being turned off by this series and comparing it to GT??? Super isn't even finished yet, and people are shaming it??? WHY?!
People really don't like the arcs .Nothing good for gt
+Reiki Enki Gt to me was more of seeing goku and his granddaughter pan .That's sorta it
LOL super with plotholes cant even be counted anymore, theres basically plotholes almost every episode. none of the arcs are follow naturally, i mean future trunks arc just came out of no where.
Super has way too many plot holes, good characters only piccolo,vegetables, and gohan are actual, the others characteristics is either too weak, too strong, or too stupiid
Reiki Enki what character development
do an updated version after the future trunks arc
we will but we're not sure when exactly
Geekdom101 do ya thing bro
*JUST DO IT , DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAM*
+Gautam Pai hahaha YES do it for Shia
be when its finished? lol
This isn't even a question. DragonBall super is far superior than GT. When watching GT I was so bored. Super I'm excited for the next episode. Super is great besides the revival of f ark.
Agreed.
Sorta
Lol oh yeah? Super is great besides half of the series?
Aren't you kinda biased Whis?
+The Chrome Man actually not half of the series. Universe 6 is starting and it's already great. Fuck off
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I think if Goku became an adult again after he became a Super Saiyan 4 it would've been better.
its sucks if gt goku is older than super goku then where the fck is ssg goku stop complaining
+Gangstar Vegas GAMINGBOY It's called an opinion
Super keeps the designs of the characters people grew to love, where GT changes everyone. I mean goku's a tanned little kid, vegeta has a pedophile design. Way too different. 😤
Well when you're making a continuation of a popular series, you'd expect to keep characters the same to not change it completely. GT turns that shit all around with their designs. Only a handful of characters look the same.
Agreed LOL 😂
+hugo mill
And turning into a half-monkey instead of normal SSJ? That was really dumb.
+Kanzentai Seru shit really came out of nowhere
+Kanzentai Seru you SUCK aas ssj4 is tha best!!
Dragon ball super did everything better than GT so far, btw I posted my second ever video; a 5 strongest in DB super. Check it out :)
+Hykend M. Was gonna tell you not to advertise but the list is actually good especially for a second vid *thumbs up*
+Hykend M.
So SSGSS is a more interesting design than SSJ 4? Gimme a break.
+Ikrani maybe ssj4 was cool with respect to design . But you have to consider that they didn't make everybody a pussy . They haven't shown much of pan yet , but vegeta is actually on par with goku . Gohan is training , and he had an excuse for not training , as he is a father . Hercules shows that he actually can care about people other than himself . Master Rishi actually trained and is again slightly significant . Piccolo isn't a pussy , and is not being used to "get goku out of hell" even though goku knows that he can just get out by going through yemma's drawer entrance . Trunk s doesn't get crippled by a fucking car crash. Ginyu is back , and not just a useless frog in a pond . God ki . Literally the entire dbgt was about goku and his ssj4 .... Every main was killed in ft by goku .
The Gamer
Hercule showed he cared about other people during the Buu Saga. Don't know what you're on about.
Gohan was training all throughout Z.
Vegeta's always more or less been on par with Goku (again, Buu Saga)
Basically, what I'm getting from you is that DB Super has made zero character progress since The Buu Saga.
Ikrani dude . i'm talking about how super is better than gt ... not z better than gt. also what are you talking about? they have made so much character progress ... hercule has a role as a grandfather . videl helps goku become a god . roshi is significant and krillin actually believes in himself . every new character till now has played some significant role . in gt they literally underdeveloped the characters .
It's kinda funny how super is getting compared to GT when super has only retold movies and it still shits on GT just imagine how it's gonna be when super gets a good month or two into its new content
Yeah :)
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The development of Vegeta alone makes Super better than GT.
Personally, GT bored me because in every fight Goku could hqve just turned SSJ immediately and won but he dragged everything out qnd the entire series seemed so dragged out....
As for Super, they found a new transformation to use against Beerus and Goku still couldn't win, which made it more interesting to watch.
Super wins so far
Goku could become SS God and win almost anybody instantly, but he doesn't.
@@Ignasimp because unlike gt goku doesnt always have to win
noticwe goku hardly wins many fights
@@Ignasimp yeah becauce in super and z Goku just transform based on how strong the opponent is, while in gt we know that the villain get powered up, we know that the villain became much stronger, but Goku didnt even go super saiyan or anything, i mean why? I can tolerated Goku didnt go super saiyan in dbs cauce he can use his god ki even in his base form, but GT even though kid Goku in GT was 10x stronger than SSJ 3 Goku in DBZ, but he still holding back again a very stronger oponent
i think the biggest problem with gt was it tried SO HARD to bring back db vibes and dbz ones to
they are NOT the same
super's problem was it focusing on introducing characters and recons rather than a focus on its own story
this vid was made too early
super is currently LEAGUES above gt now that its temporarily over
I like the friendship between Goku and Vegeta in DB Super. We actually get to see them train together which is something we never saw in DB GT.
Super - 8/10
GT - 4/10
+Jake Hunter hmmm
Why I think Super is better because:
1. they didn't build upon ss4 goku and rather it's god ki. It makes us keep guessing and a different way to predict transformations.
2. filling in the gap from end of Buu to Uub that dbz ended with. we want to know what happens in between.
3. yes it's more funnier than GT
4. they brought back future trunks, which other shows sometimes never revisit prior arcs.
5. they let vegeta skip another form, the red god form. also near the end of super, they show us that saiyans can take many paths to get stronger such as goku branched from SSBlue to Ultra instinct Silver while vegeta went from blue to royal blue lol. Also Kale becoming Green like Broly.
6. Story is more vast because of exploring other universes. curious about the universes that didn't have to participate in the tournament of power. they must have even more powerful characters in there than Jiren.
7. Revisited old characters a lot better in super than in GT. Where is Launch tho? lol.
8. Super gave their characters major power boosts like 17, Buu getting ripped to shreds, Frieza becoming Golden, and other Z warriors too. DBZ leading up to GT gave the feeling like each character arc had already reached the ceiling for power levels like frieza staying the same, cell and androids staying the same power level, piccolo staying as strong as a "super namek" and Goku being stuck at SS3 and SS4 like that's the limit. but Super fixed all that. also, Saiyan girls can become super saiyans in Super, while pan didn't even turn super saiyan. IDK if that's because she was 1/4th saiyan but she was beast mode in the super episodes lol.
9. Super never mixed up canon and non-canon stuff like GT did such as Gogeta. he was only in movie form, not episodes.
10. in super they showed who is omni King and omnipotent beings like God of Destruction, and angels. Ranks of power that may or not be possible for goku to obtain seems more realistic than GT Gogeta being so powerful that the Evil Dragonball Dragons can't compete, while Vegetto couldn't even stop Fused Zamasu and Goku Black
Z>super>gt
Faraz I'd put original DB on number 2, and super on 3
@@hektyk1134 Z>DB>Super>GT
When BoG and RF came out, they had the title of Dragon Ball Z. IMO, no matter how they transition, those movies are meant to be an actual continuation. So, just by that alone I prefer Super over GT.
Me too. GT was just sooo TERRIBLE.😣
+Bangar Raju GT is the best series in my POV
+Michael Iv Do you mean GT was even better than DB and DBZ?
Bangar Raju Yeah. DB/Z never really went back to explore things. And even if they were threats for a few episodes, Frieza and Cell were still threats in non-filler.
BoG and FG was fillers between Z and GT timeline... You ain't a real Dragon Ball series fan because that is the poorest reason to say that alone is better than GT....
Okay so we’re here now at the end of super with 1 episode left at the end of the Tournament of Power...
1. Ultra Instinct
2. Vegeta ascends Super Saiyan Blue
3. Android 17 MVP
4. Frieza is a good guy
5. Jiren
6. Kefla
7. Zamasu and Future Trunks Arc
8. Hit is totally badass
9. Bulma’s involvement was much better
10. Hakai
Mike always gets the sides of the videos that will get hate lmao, good video tho Geekdom and Mike
+EDS BREAD
No, god no. GT is the ONLY part of the Dragon Ball Universe I despise. And I mean the ONLY. Dragon Ball Evolution had no involvement with Toriyama or any of the cast for that matter so it doesn't count. But I don't despise Dragon Ball Sagas (original xbox game)
I don't despise ANY aspect from Dragon Ball (first series)
I didn't despise Mr. Satan in the Cell saga
Not even the episode 5 animation was something I despise because I understood it was made that week with a new animation that DBZ had never adapted before.
But GT had NOTHING. The closest thing that I came to liking was the opening theme (falling under your spell)
+PGL Clowned GT wasn't even bad lol most of the downplay is just people on the bandwagon. Really
Jo-Smooth
I didn't like GT because:
1. Goku became a kid again, essentially devolving and making you feel less attached
2. Managing to ruin Vegeta
3. Basically not using any other goddamn character than Goku, Trunks, Vegeta, Or Pan
4. Lack of character development for everyone, Vegeta included as all he did was settle
5. Inconsistencies and Plot Holes, I know Z had them, but at least they were for a reason that improved the story, not simply forgetting (example: pure saiyan's hair never changes; Vegeta gets whatever the hell that was on his head
6. The color panel. Yes, the colors had no saturation, thus looking drained of life and overall made it look older than Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z
7. The comedy was dry and not innovative in any way. I laughed in that filler episode with Goku and Piccolo learning to drive more than I did in the entire GT series
8. What happened to Tien? Why do Goten and Gohan look virtually the same? Why isn't Gohan doing jack shit?
9. Aging everyone so far ahead that they have outlived their usefulness. Take Krillin for example, fan-favorite in Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. In GT he was an old geezer with a somehow aged android 18
10. It strayed so far from what made Dragon Ball great. Taking chances is how you find success and mistakes are meant to be learned from. But GT swung the completely wrong way and decided to stay on that crash course through-out it's entirety, which is ultimately what screwed it over.
not because of a banwagon. Also, dende asking for popo to get a med kit.
+PGL Clowned Fair enough, though Vegeta wasn't ruined. As for character usage, while I'm not happy about that either (Gohan is my favorite character) they did just come out the Buu arc, where most characters weren't really used. They kept that format. I don't think it was that different from DB and Z. A while back I watched all 3 straight through, and it *does* feel like the final chapter of at least the anime verse of Z
Jo-Smooth
In dragon ball (original) Goku wasn't that much more powerful than the others and he didn't even become the strongest in the series until he trained with Korin and eventually Kami. Far past half way through the series. GT had NO usage of other charecters compared to Dragon Ball. DBZ at least gave others interesting fights and screen time in the Buu saga. (Making of Gotenks, Gotenks vs Buu, Ultimate Gohan vs Super Buu, Goku and Vegeta being surpassed, Piccolo, Yamcha and Krillin had some time in otherworld, etc.)
I couldn't agree more about your thoughts on GT. I feel if GT were more fleshed out that it could have been amazing. They had great concepts but a piss poor execution "most of the time". Gt just needed more passion behind the project and it could have been as good or better than Z or super in my opinion. I personally have a special place in my heart for GT and I prefer the animation and character designs/concepts in GT and the fact that the characters actually look accurate to there age.
Let me just say this in the simplest way. Dragonball Super is fun to watch and it keeps you guessing on what is going to happen.
SUPER IS WAAAAYYY BETTER THAN GT
True. People whi don't agree are blinded by nostalgia sadly:(
+Bangar Raju who*
Bangar Raju haha😂tru my man 👍
Bangar Raju i agree with u
+Bangar Raju true
Show is Awesome, Comedy, New Lore, Character Development, Vegeta ' s growth, Beerus, Whis my favz
+ROGUE DEXX it is fun!
ya berus is my favorite to I especially like his them music
+Geekdom101 Everything
I'm just going to say I agree with all 10 of these things, but I was surprised, because of the thumbnail of the video, that Vegeta wasn't one of the 10 things. I know you guys mentioned side characters being better developed, but Vegeta is done 1million times better in Super. Whether it's from the fact that he's used for comedy, since his banter with Goku feels very nostalgic, or the fact that he feels a lot more equal to Goku in power. He doesn't have that stupid old feel to him like in GT and he's not possessed by the main villain so he actually has screen time, and he feels like he has weight in this series. I know he's essential to the greatest transformation of all time, SSJ4 Gogeta, but he's not even his own character at that point. The only thing GT does better with Vegeta is keep to his character model, I don't know how the fuck Vegeta grew 4 inches or whatever in Super, but it's really weird. I've grown up with Vegeta being short, or getter taller but only because he's buff as hell. You could argue that it's a slap in the face to people who are short. Vegeta was short, but he has the most pride out of every character and that's admirable. He doesn't let his size be a shortcoming (lol), but for some reason he's taller than characters he short be shorter than. I don't know what Toriyama meant by doing this, but... I don't agree with it.
Already in the Buu arc he didn't look so short anymore. He was truly short only in Saiyan and Namek sagas. I don't think it's an insult to the short people - on the contrary, the whole Z showed many times that a shorter character can be easily a way better and stronger warrior. Frieza was extremely short compared to Goku and yet he was massively more powerful until Goku went SSJ1. Vegeta in his first appearance also counts. Now Zeno is short and he's the most powerful being in all universes.
I totally agree with you, there are a lot off memorable new character like Hit who was only there for 1 arc became so memorable and many even want him to return in Universal Survival arc and I even liked the concept of Zamasu and Black goku , the black goku arc was really well executed too (except for the ending , but it was still good for the most time).
1. The story in DBS is much better than "oh look all this time there were a hidden set of dragon balls in the lookout and somehow the radar never detected it wait but how are we going to make new enemies? I know! We will create a character that goes into people's body and gets their powers but wait thats not everything! We will make a super 17 arc that has no point so we will create it just to have a reason to do another boring saga and there we will fuck the power scale! The dragon balls will break and create super powerful enemies even when we know Shenron is weak and was killed by King Piccolo :D but thats not everything because we are going to give you Super Saiyan 4 that makes you an adult for no reason and stealing the golden ape idea from what vegeta said in dbz on planet namek! Also don't forget that you don't even need to train to gain or control super saiyan 4 you can just use bulma's tank and then become one without training for even one day in your entire life! Because who needs Super Saiyan 2 or 3 when you just can skip to 4! :)"
I have a lot more things to say but then I will finish next week so I will finish it here.
And don't forget the magically appearing cloths during SSJ4 transformation yellow pants smh.....LOL. #gtsucks
That one dislike is a GT fan...
Yup it is, those idiots are blinded by nostalgia.
Naeem Richardson screw the gt fans they cant see ssb and ssg are stronger than ssj4
Nah I didn't dislike
Try to not
make the reverse role
Stronger doesnt mean better sometimes , and aesteticaly its not that great . its just a recolor of the first ssj and the god thing to justify the strenght is just MEH ( imop). I can understand why they cant ( or wouldn’t)
@@carloscolon606 In my opinion SSJ 4 desighn was way cooler than SSB or SSG
It really had unique and creative desighned in it
But saying SSJ 4 stronger than SSB or SSG I think its kinda way to far, heck even SSJ 4 10× Kamehameha Goku couldn't even beat the crap out of Omega Shenron and even worse Ultra full power SSJ 4 Goku and Vegita still couldnt beat this guy considering Omega was at that time was around Multiverse level thats the same level SSG and SSB at
If SSJ 4 was stronger than SSB or SSG he could easily clap Omega
Super is still better than GT.
+natsu dragneel shut up you have no opinion if you like fairy tail first it was good then got shitty
+natsu dragneel Natsu your wrong, it's his or her's opinion.
if you feel that way then feel that way don't let anyone tell you are wrong. and I feel like super is better then gt
Lmao no
Tbh I never even watched the whole 64 episodes. I got so bored and I stopped in the middle and then watched the last arc. The thing that made me hate the series so much is that they treated Cell and Frieza like jokes, ugh the way they were defeated is unacceptable. 2, it's not canon and I'm pretty sure I saw Cooler in there.
Vegeta has been given more spotlight. This is the most important thing for me in DBS.
dbs is amazing, it has the old dragon balls comedy, dbz's action and much more.
I also think that super so far has much better relationship and interaction between goku and vegeta, In GT it felt that they kind of just used vegeta in the baby saga as a second hand villain then slapped in the extra episodes when he went ssj4. In super it makes me remember some of the old rivalries more and feel that it is evolving to be a much more intricate storyline with the two's age old competition to be stronger.
Definitely, Mike is right about his number one. I wish we could see more from the other characters, but GT was a lot worse with characters.
why GT is better than Super so far
For a start Animation:speed lines,debris,more frames of animation,better choreography,better battle damage,less flat 2d still shots,Impact flashes which adds a real life BAM to the animation..GT wins that department
Art: Gt had a Organic feeling and creative hand painted environments which created a atmosphere where as Super looks like Microsoft paint every episode
Characters: now this i'm split,in GT they rebooted Trunks character and made everyone weak but in super they have rebooted EVERY character to the point they all have a different feel,GT Videl is more true to Z's videl than supers posh nerd
GT actually feels like a bad version of DB and DBZ were as super feels like a bad version of a gag manga with Dragon Ball characters
Music: GT's west and Original both beat Supers crappy score that sounds like it should be for a carnival lol
GT actually had traveling and adventure super just transports everyone to new location and stayed there for the full plot untill its time to move on so far,I could go on and but you get my point,GT is a superior show so far FACT,it's only preference which is opinion
before I watch they have vegeta in the show that actually made him feel useful
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+Flame wheel true
:)
I thought that was it because of the thumbnail
they made goku a kid because they were trying to rememiss the whole dragon ball quest, pan was bulma, trunks was krillin. it was basically a huge tribute... well for the first 20 episodes
I think gt would have been better if goku at least turned back to normal every once in while.
+Robert Nieves I agree with this
I know .Seriously why didn't the writers think of this
The intro is something that should be noted as well.
Toriyama being more involved calls for one of the things super had over GT? I can't stand this Toriyama worship.
For me the ranking of the series goes:
Dragonball Super
Dragonball
Dragonball Z
Dragonball GT
WAIT! GT did stuff right?!
ikr lol
Exactly my thoughts
It's honestly not that bad, yes it has its problems but fans mostly exaggerate about every little thing.
PerfectSuperSaiyan I was doing that. Making a hyperbolic statement that is.
+PerfectSuperSaiyan Actually it is that bad.
Just subbed bro. Keep up the good work
the drawings were better in GT
The pattern of turning villains into good guys and expanding their abilities continued in super and i dig that. like how bu and frieza are members of the universe team and bu can utilize his evil versions now positively pretty cool
Frieza only made a temporary truce with Goku and his team, because their universe was in danger of being erased. He helped Goku only for himself to survive.
@@unromanoarecareanaveragero8275 Thats true, and I wrote this pre black frieza. In the long run Frieza could be the biggest threat in dragonball history. Or help in another tournament for self preservation... Hard to say lol.
I really wonder what people will think of Super in five years or so.
That it was dissapointing.
I liked Super overall. It doesn't have as many big, emotional moments as Z, but it executes its small moments and humor far better than GT and balances them better than Z. Far. Far. Better.
As for animation, even when the character models were off, there was generally some pretty awesome movements and kinesis being suggested, better than Z and, again, leagues above GT. And when character models were on and the action was cooking? It rose higher than Z. Moments from the Trunks Arc and TOP come to mind.
"planet with nothing" I died at that part
My thoughts are
The characters are slightly better and they didn't turn Goku into a kid
But the animation is much worse. Plus it looks like it's getting good now.
True.
True.
Goku acts more childish than in GT though, wich is far more annoying.
1. The introduction of ultra instinct
2. Showing krillens life style
3. Showering jerin
4. Frieza
5. The tournament was longer
6 the muitlverse
7 introducing Angel's
8. Introducing 17 again I liked super 17 but i like him better as a good guy
9. Andriod 18 was more relevant in the show
10. Future trunks and gohan bond
Everything lol.
You mean nothing in Dragonball is good right
Matt Lucas Dragon Ball GT is pure trash.
+Aurelio Casillas I know.So fat dragonball super is not great .But gt is bad right ?
Matt Lucas If we're comparing Super to GT, Super is the perfect definition of "masterpiece".
+Aurelio Casillas in my opinion .Super has at least good animation .Just lacks story .Gt lacked story and characterization
My favorite line from super is I’m never fighting someone from an 80s gag manga
"I'm gonna eat your whole race" Vegeta was funny af.
Have you seen the DVD artwork for Dragon Ball Super Season 1? I'm not sure if it's legit, but it has Goku vs Beerus on the cover and it looked really cool.
If Gt wouldnt have made Goku a kid then I would definitely go and watch GT .
I Love GT but super is honestly better
Well, yeah, but unless they show us a SSGSS5 or at least a SSGSS4 or a Golden SSJ4, the transformations in GT are still better....
they gotta bring back Vegito
fuck vegito gogeta was the ultimate badass
RaidenLP WTF
Isacc Daber what gogeta is so much cooler then vegito
RaidenLP Yea but I like vegito and the gogete they both are cool and badass
Drake Strader i hope your happy Vegito is back
Some people seem to forget that Super takes place Before the end of DBZ. GT took place AFTER.
finally, gt fans who is bashing dbs should learn something from this.
Sadly, those idiots are blinded by nostalgia. So they not true fans.
+Bangar Raju Neither are Supertards who blindly follow Toriyama. Super did do stuff right but at least GT actually sticks to continuity. Super shits on it.
ACCOUNT SUSPENED SOMETHING YOU KNOW WHATEVER I would ask you the same question.
***** how does super shit on gt? Super isn't bad
Epic Style Gamer I meant GT shits on the continuity. Nothing makes sense about it.
Hey geekdom, good stuff. You deserve 100k man.
I think Dragon ball super will end just like how DBZ began. One last fight between Goku and Vegeta but on a much higher scale with lots at risk. Think about it, in the Resurection of F movie Whis reminded Beerus that he was the one who ordered freeza to destroy Planet Vegeta and Beerus had to shush Whis. Now let's say they bring that into the series and Vegeta finds out, I don't think he will be to happy. Plus we know Vegeta finds out about Planet Salad in Universe 6, more sayians. To sum it all up, I believe Vegeta and Goku will get into a heated arguement over this and Vegeta may say fuck Universe 7 I'm going to Universe 6 so I can be Prince and he will have all the sayians attack Beerus for what he did. Goku won't like this and he will be on the side of Beerus and universe 7. An ultimate clash between universe 7&6. Sayians vs Z warriors. Beerus vs Vegeta. Champa vs Goku? and the final battle, to see who really is the strongest, Goku vs Vegeta. GOD VS GOD.
That would be dope af
+54chevy01 The extended ending of the manga states that Goku is still better than Vegeta.
Sounds cool ASF but I don't think that whis and vados will allow this to happen, they will just one shot goku and vegeta XD
+Danny Saldana it's not whis and vados place to interfere, Whis never stopped Goku vs Beerus, the frieza fight was never stopped, only thing they will interfere with is Beerus vs Champa.
+54chevy01 your right but if this threatens the destruction of the universe then of course they will interfere in this other than that i could see them fighting and whis and vados are just watching them
I didn't dislike Kid Goku in GT, but I did dislike how they portrayed him.
I also adore how they are just chilling with gods. Fucking gods! C'mon, that's awesome.
I agree with number 1.
I loved all of the universe 6 fighters... Except for Botamo, Botamo is lame.
I hated frost most. Such wasted character potential.
He is literally Winnie the Pooh
he is golden freddy
Come on man you hurt his feelings
I am actually split on Frost. On one hand, I have been wanting to see a non-evil member of Frieza race for ages( I mean, come on, think about it: Both his father and his brother are stronger then he is, or at least, stronger then he was prior to reaching Golden Frieza form. So, it seems implied to a extent that Frieza power level, prior to his training, is actually LOWER then average for his species, perhaps, preciselly, due to his lack of training. And, if there is a whole species out there that is more powerfull then Frieza and the universe wasnt reduced to ash yet, you have to tell me that at least some of then are nice ). On another hand... I just dont think that what they did with Frost was half bad either, making him still evil, just also a very clever manipulator. It is one of those cases of "Well, what they did was nice, I just wished they had done something else"
it would have been nice to see more upcoming earth fighters other than trunks and goten. they would have been able to juice some fun fillers out of those fighters. or even fun side stories. like while all the main z fighters are doing something important, we can see the younger z fighters battling some monster on earth or something. i know it's only been like 3 years since the planet was purged, but still.
it's strange that we haven't seen master roshi training anyone new or bringing any new fighters into the fold. they could say he just decided not to train anyone, but he didn't want to train anyone after goku and krillin too. there should be other earth fighters who could convince roshi to train them. or heck, they could even go to other z fighters for training. even yamcha is stronger than roshi. why are there no new z fighters other than trunks and goten?
+MrAustinValentine yea
Everything except Ssj4 is Better than GT
SSJ4 is a plothole. How did he get those trousers (yellow color) while transforming from kid to adult.
Bangar Raju piccolo: CLOTHESSS BEAMMMM
MysticPowerZ bruhh it was a joke, chill tf out
dragon ball :Tournament
dragon ball z :Survival
dragon ball gt :dragons
dragon ball super :Gods
Dragon Ball Heroes :Demons
Vegeta was off character in GT his pride would never allow the Blutz Waves
and not only that he will never let goku pass him that much in gt that's why gt is crap
Yeah with Vegeta using that machine to transform in Gt was a big no for me
Vegeta would rather die than develop that much gap between him and goku.That's just his personality and enough reason why GT sucks because he's one of the most beloved characters.
Vegeta is prideful yeah but he wouldn't let the universe be destroyed because of it. He was so against fusing with Goku in the Buu Saga but he still did it because there was no one else but their fusion that could defeat Super Buu (Beerus and Whis didn't exist at the time).
Did I like him using the blutz wave machine? No not really, but I can look past it because it's good character development.
+The one
I dunno. I thought him accepting Bulma's help was him growing as a character, prioritizing saving the world and killing the bad guy vs. letting his pride nearly destroy the world _again_. Took 2 shows and 7 arcs, but the dude finally got his priorities straightened out.
Plus, it was either that or never reach SSJ 4 and thus essentially give up the race with Goku.
"gokus a kid!"
"yeah that's fucking dumb..."
"okay well he is an adult when he goes ssj4!"
"okay...that's really fucking dumb.."
I still say SSJ4 over God forms any day of the week
+SuperSaiyanNaruto999 Actual SSJ > weremonkey, in my opinion. SSJG forms at least look like the true SSJ.
+Kanzentai Seru God forms are simply palette swaps. SSJ4 looks like a true God form of a Saiyan
+Kanzentai Seru very true man
+SuperSaiyanNaruto999 The SS4 was always the most creative of DragonBall transformations to me.
+HyperShadic600 same here i would like to see that, comeback!
I haven't given Super a try yet but this video made me want to!
Dude, if anything makes you give super a try, it has to be the DBS broly movie or the black goku arc. Maybe ultra instinct as a form.
How the heck do people like gt
I just never liked how Frieza took 4 months to reach Goku and Vegeta's level.
If it were me I would've taken 2 years. Four months just makes it seem pointless.
DB Super is so bad it makes GT a masterpiece!
sry Akira
DBS hater detected. Believe it or not, DBS improved considerably since the BoG and RoF sagas. It's way better than GT in every possible way now. Character development and story in Future Trunks arc just annihilates everything from GT.
Finally, someone who isn't a asshole jesus
Dragon ball Z never had the best animation but with super..it was a huge fucking improvement, Black goku isn't just a clone he has so much BIO work done on him he makes the perfect villain "I hate all humans and think there mistakes" you think that's a Goku clone and he got beat trained and was even stronger than Goku...I never seen a charater stronger than goku except for Cell.. all the other times he'll probobly get his ass kicked but he'll come back and win, and gross romance..I don't remember a kiss or sex scene in the this arc or any DBS arc ever so far...but you know whats gross that people try so very hard to bring down every new DBZ thing...first a game now the reboot so fuck it
dragon ball has far to many characters that look like goku... fucking bullshit..
Lol no Super has shitty art at least gt knew how to draw. Gt also had more original ideas than super. Frieza back again for revenge like it's another cooler movie? Lame. Gohan and vegeta are character breaking pussies in super. The whole god power ups are confusing. Ssj4? Badass. The idea that there is some consequence in using the dragonballs so often that they bring out harbingers of death and destruction that they have to deal with? Awesome and makes the dragonballs not an ultimate cop out to bring back characters anymore. Super is average and unoriginal and that's all there is to it.
As far as I am concerned Dragonball GT is one of the 12 Universes mainly because Dragonball Super introduced 2 new Super Saiyan Transformations. Super Saiyan God, and Ascended Super Saiyan God. Whereas Dragonball GT gave us Golden Great Ape and Super Saiyan 4. And Pan isn't even born yet where in GT they had her live her life to be a Great Grandmother.
Overall GT is a much better series.
Funny
SouR- Sensei Your face, yeah I know.
Eyeless Jack Lets do a head count shall we? We get Beerus and Whis for the second time then Frieza for the 40th time then a tournament.....never seen that one before along with some of Piccolo babysitting and Vegeta being a maid. Yeah Super is so much better. *sarcasm*
GT is the best
Why does it look like goku will have to relearn everything he learned in dragon ball for gt?
As far as concepts, Super has a lot more, however, GT scores well with both the Black Star Dragon balls and the end result of using them. I also think it scores well with the negative energy affects on them, cracking them and causing splits in dimensions by which Hell opens up.
From this comes the best villains concept hands down of the series. Had they ended Goku's kid years either in Hell or when he finally got out, affected by the negative energy, then they could've made each Dragon like Ice, Nova and Syn. Even if having the goofy characters is fine, if at some point they transform on a level like Janenba.
honestly so far i enjoyed GT ALOT more than super. i kinda hate super actually
Does that mean you din't enjoy the movies as well?
Super saiyan god super saiyan Mystic super saiyan 4 I respect your opinion
Yeah I agree the comedy in Super was way better. In fact my favorite comedic moment would have to be the scene where Vegeta accidentally touches one of Beerus's hourglasses and then Goku uses Instant Transmission to teleport it to Whis where it explodes right in his face.
I say GT is better than Super because in GT they take the villains much more seriously than in Super, GT has better continuity, better designs, better consistent animation, and has many more new characters than in Dragon Ball Super (so far). Also, Super has way more plot holes and inconsistencies than GT which further proves that GT is better than Super.
+Taylor TLK What about the Black Star Dragon Ball arc those villains were pathetic
xXeliteJazz Not all of them. Huge examples: Syn Shenron/Omega Shenron, Nuova Shenron, Eis Shenron,
Dude the only good villains were Omega, Nuova, and Eis, and Baby the rest are just there
GT has introduced more characters than Super? c'mon bro! its about quality not quantity.
xXeliteJazz Regardless if you like GT or not, to me GT take their a little more serious and they were much more a threat. In Super, I don't find Beerus and Frieza intimidating. Sure you can find them as threat, but when you really think about it, Beerus wasn't fully intent on killing Goku and Frieza was pretty tame when compared to what he was in the previous installments. Plus the pointless comedy put in the scenes with the villains ruins the seriousness for me.
im not really a guy who likes to create DBZ theories and all tha but...i somehow think that champa WILL win the tournament and get the earth to his universe...i can imagine how it will result to all the Zfighters will try to go back to heir own and have to defeat champa in that struggle...i think that will make for some nice arc
+bocodamondo Yeah maybe, but i feel like theres more
Geekdom101 I could only imagine if they had to revive beerus
what could of been
For me Super is worse than GT. It's not really bad, but i can't say it's good. While GT is nearly good.
H. Art i disagree
H. Art You're sick to see a doctor
Amir Hakim Nah, i'm fine.
Super actually focus on other characters then goku... The universe 6 arc, then goku black and its current story is awesome... SSblue is by far better then ssj4
Mark Riederer No, no, Blue is nowhere close to SSJ 4. It's just a boring recolor.
"Current story is awesome", yeah, but TOP arc is really weak when it comes to story. Also, GT had way more amazing story. Baby saga and Shadow Dragons are awesome.
I think Super is better than GT overall. They are both pretty bad compared to dbz, but at least Super is capable of being entertaining and has good fights.
Super is awful in every way
+Isaiah Nimoh "you've joking" yeah sure
+Nathan Flasher nah
+Bangar Raju it does
says you
just look at your name and profile picture
Dragonball GT was great until the beginning of the Super 17 saga. That ruined it and it left not much to work with for the evil dragon arc. But season 1 and the baby saga were fantastic. Goku being a kid was pretty cool too, especially when people keep thinking he's was younger than he was.
the thing that i hate in db super
revial o f
ssj god
and blue
no but that with fireza arc was really like fanservice pff now super has benn good with black goku bot the animation is so fucking shit really
Mehmet Imeri
GRAMMAR MAN DO YOU DO IT?!
frieza shouldn't get a form equivalent to ssg
Why? When he was actually first introduced, Frieza was pretty much the biggest badass in history. Then later arcs came and castrated him. ... Is it really asking so much for him to get his dignity back?
+Darren Metts everything
One of my most FAVORITE thing Super did better than GT is simply put: *CHARACTER DESIGNS*
Goku new outfit looks fitting, I love Vegeta's new Saiyan jumpsuit, Bulma still looking hot even for her age, Krillin looks more like he ORIGINALLY should being a monk and all (and I love his hair style), Gohan looks way more lovable & lighthearted now than he was in the Majin days, Mr.Satan not bald and still awesome looking, and of course Pan looks so flipping adorable as a baby. I hope she grows up more kind hearted and nice like End Of Z than how bratty she was in GT.
When it comes to the designs, Super *DESTROYS* GT in that category.
Imagine if they found the dragonball for super dragonball and they used it but then Goku gets wished as a kid again
1: Goku not being a kid.
2: Much more interesting characters
3: NO FUCKING ANNOYING PAN.
4: Padding isn't nearly as boring and long.
5: Much better direction and world building.
6: More interesting villains, including the re-introduction of my all time favorite Dragon Ball villain. And his ki blast wasn't deflected by a power pole twirl..
7: Much better comedy.
8: Much better animation and artwork, at least after it recovered from its problems before the 10th episode or so.
9: Much better use of side characters, including what they do when they aren't fighting.
10: Super cute Bulma...hey, I love this, even if it's minor!
Some things I think Super does better than GT (not many things but there are a few): 1. comedy, 2. Slice of Life and characterization, 3. New Concepts, 4. Better usage of characters (mostly Goku and Vegeta, but at least its better than Goku and Pan, then later just Goku like in GT), 5. Showing the progression of power (especially when Goku fought Beerus and nearly destroyed the universe, GT sucked at showing power progression).
Agreed
two things super did better are they used Senzu beans. and second they realized that they had three wishes . with the earth. dragonballs . that alone destroys Gt completely
this is what I think dragon ball super and dragon ball gt are two different ways dragon ball z would have went
i can't believe ANY of you mentioned consistency, holy shit! From the very start of DBS you see flashbacks, not re-animated, no, LITERAL grabs of the old shows, so that people know what happened in the past. Toriyama is known for forgetting important details, even entire characters, the fact that DBS has so many references to past events is a complete 180. It even fixed mistakes that were still in the movies! You can see the research that went into DBS! Honestly, those flashbacks from so many years ago is a testament of love. The fact that so many (potential) plot holes get addressed, too. Why not use the S dragon balls to wish for another eart was a HUGE plot hole, next episode BAM addressed it. DBS is probably the most consistent dragon ball show created period.
-GT is amazing, but I hate that Goku is the only "useful" character in the plot.
-Super is amazing, but the transformations aren't as creative-looking and too much "ATATATATATA"
SSJ4 looks more like a SSJ God than SSJ God
The ATATATA was only in japanese dub, and that was normal since OG Dragon ball
yet another awesome video