Fair but honestly whichever way you start a show (subbed/dubbed) will always make the other sound weird. Personally i prefer dubs just because if the actors are good you get one last filtering so the translation doesn't feel like something out of google translate. I good example is in Jujutsu Kaisen where a line in sub is "I love my self when I'm all dressed up and pretty amd i love myself when I'm strong!" But in the dub its "... I love myself when I'M KICKING ASS!" I'll let you decide which resonated way better with the visuals of the speaker dominating as she yelled that. I also understand that a lot of dubs are too low budget to afford decent acting and will happily watch subs when needed. (But i personally don't hear the same depth of emotion in foreign languages i know a whole 2 words in as my native language) PS: this is not intended to start a war over sub/dub, both have a place but i like the extra filter of translation and being able to look away without missing dialogue.
@@jasonreed7522 I don't dislike HxH dub but it misses the spot sometimes imo. But it's probably original VA's being so fantastic that kinda overshadows the dub a little bit. Either way, as someone trying to learn english and japanese i am very grateful for all these people's work.
@AlHasan Sameh to be fair they might be enhancers because they are simple minded rather than just chance that all of the enhancers are brutes. Hisoka’s personality test is far from accurate but there are some very clear consistencies between characters of the same nen type. Also as much as I love netero, didn’t he get to where he is by just spending days punching the air until he had basically perfected punching, his fighting style isn’t too far removed from as simple as uvogin’s is. He just summons a big bhodvista to punch for him.
@AlHasan Sameh When I said simple minded, I meant his fighting style not his intelligence. Netero has shown to be a fairly cunning strategist (the forethought to get the rose bomb installed) and knows how to push people’s buttons (most of the hunter exam arc lol). Just that his fighting style is basically still just hit fast and hard. His nen ability would be incredibly weak on the average person as the nen required to summon the “statue” (I can never spell it right) is immense and the conditions would make it useless for most (can’t move without having to resummon, have to pray between punches etc). So netero is obviously a very skilled and fighter and nen user, but still just the same principle of punch hard and fast.
I’m gonna be honest. That strategy was so fucking simple only an enhancer would bank everything on it. And only a fucking emitter would seriously not see it coming.
I like the part where Gon has to prove he can be on the team and is told to attack as if the guy fighting Gon was the one responsible for killing Kite. Thats a scary scene!
lol what? Just no, Knuckle isn't supposed to be a "homage to kuwabara from togashi's earlier work yu yu hakusho" AT ALL, lol Knuckle isn't supposed to be a "homage" to anything in particular, he's just supposed to resemble a pompadour hair stylized street thug that was popular in japan during the 1960 and 1970s, think of the Japanese equivalent of a american 1950s greaser. Character archetypes like this are ALL over in anime as MOST anime have a character like this. Josuke has that kind of look as well, Knuckle isn't supposed to be a "homage" to ANY particular character at all.
Gotta love the dub. If nothing else, good for engagement. By that, I mean the people who physically can't help but click the video to complain about it.
Without researching it i would assume its from the same period/same actors. I know the announcer in the tower arc (when they first learn nen) sounds identical to the anouncer in tournaments in early pokemon (up to gen 3 i think), so it does hit a nostalgia of that late 90s early 00s for me. (Modern pokemon i couldn't watch if i wanted to, admittedly it is 100% a kids show)
I never understood why Togashi made paper so much weaker than rock... Gon should have an 80% proficiency with emission and he did train it a lot, it's not like he just said fuck it, I'll only use rock. 80% should still be a shit your pants amount of aura coming from Gon. This man was making morel sweat for his life just shortly after this...
I have a couple theories. Paper likely gets weaker the further the distance and knuckle was decently far. Also, If paper was concentrated to the size of a fist, it would likely be 80% of rock, but gon made it a lot bigger, so it could block knuckle’s vision. However, that weakened the Paper even more.
I honestly think Gon just straight up forgets has things besides Rock Paper Rock. I'm pretty sure this is the only time he uses Rock Paper Paper, and he uses Tock Paper Scissors only once, too
I think it’s weird that even with the dubbed version, he still says “Jan-Ken-paper”. In Japan, Jankenpon is said right before you throw down your choice of rock, paper, scissors. But In English, we just say “Rock-Paper-Scissors” in substitution for Jankenpon and then we throw down the choice. So in the dub, he should’ve just said, “Rock-Paper-Paper” since he uses the last word of “pon” in replacement of whatever he throws down. But mostly throughout the series, he would just say “Rock-Paper-Rock” since he uses rock 90% of the time. Just saiyan.
The dubbers have a very complicated job with matching mouth movements, length of sentences, tone with facial expressions on top of strict dealines. This might simply have been the only way to get lip movements, etc to match up. Because it's something Gon says more than once, they had to have something they can reuse. That would be my guess
@@litatjie sure but if you look at his mouth movement for when he says “show me Rock” (specifically rock) early on and then when he says “Jan”, it’s the same mouth movement… he literally just opens and closes his mouth the same.
@@litatjie I get the companies who have to translate and dub words, the same words used in Japanese aren’t going to have the same mouth movements. But when he says “Jan-Ken-Paper” he uses the same mouth movement for “Jan” / “Rock”, and we don’t even see him use the word paper. Which is probably why they said Paper instead of the Japanese word for paper since it’s English dub. And I suppose one could argue that “Ken” is a one word syllable, while paper/scissors are two word syllables, but I mean dubbing companies have overlapped words before and since it’s such a signature move, it’s just weird they are combining the two versions of “Jan-Ken-Pon” / “Rock-Paper-Scissors”. That would be the equivalent of them dubbing “Kage bunshin no Jutsu” / “Shadow clone jutsu” and saying “Shadow bunshin jutsu”.
@@themultiverseman I think you answered your own objection here. It's an iconic move. It repeats over and over in the anime. And I do think that, combined with the syllable difference, is probably why they did it the way they did. But you seem to have made up your mind so let's agree to disagree.
Im glad he at least says Jan Ken Paper. It would sound so weird if he said rock paper paper lol. Might give the sub a try when i watch this again eventually the dubs pretty hit or miss at points.
They say "emissions from gon should be much weaker cuz he's a enhancer " but its 80% which should still be very powerful considering how strong his rock is
Technically isnt gon a 1 star (of 3) enhancer atp? Whereas he hasnt ventured much into his emitter affinity? Probably why - it is a drastic difference though
Because poor translation issues. Its why certain anime work better in japanese vs english. Saying the japanese name of an attack in english comes off as silly, and a lot of animes get ruined by poor VA of those pronunciations.
@@cesier123 not really we just knew he was equal to the king and to be honest with the later chapters there are a lot of things stronger than the king; that form was like bisky but reverse just enough to beat Pitou, if he had asked for more power he probably would've died instantly rather then being bed-ridden
Wow so basically paper is useless, because anybody that knows he's an enhancer, knows it is only useful as a mediocre distraction. Gon really is boring AF.
oh god the dub is terrible 🤣🤣🤣 how do you pronounce the main characters name wrong lol. & then he says , jan ken…PAPER ??????🤣 like come on. i’ve never heard the dub before…but i swear….if he also says , jan ken rock , ima lose it lol
I Like the Idea behind gon's jajanken and round 2 ia a good concept but i Hope that gon If He ever get his Nen abilitys Back that He Builds a better ability 😅
Damn josuke really stepped up his game.
Lol ironically the dub VA for knuckle voices Joseph in part 2
And his japanese VA is Okuyasu as well!
Is this Josuke but the not so tall version?
For real and why is he wearing Jotaro's jacket?
I wat thinkin kuabara from yuyu but josuke works too
This is the first time I’ve heard it in English… it sounds like muscle man vs ash to me
Fair but honestly whichever way you start a show (subbed/dubbed) will always make the other sound weird.
Personally i prefer dubs just because if the actors are good you get one last filtering so the translation doesn't feel like something out of google translate. I good example is in Jujutsu Kaisen where a line in sub is "I love my self when I'm all dressed up and pretty amd i love myself when I'm strong!" But in the dub its "... I love myself when I'M KICKING ASS!"
I'll let you decide which resonated way better with the visuals of the speaker dominating as she yelled that.
I also understand that a lot of dubs are too low budget to afford decent acting and will happily watch subs when needed. (But i personally don't hear the same depth of emotion in foreign languages i know a whole 2 words in as my native language)
PS: this is not intended to start a war over sub/dub, both have a place but i like the extra filter of translation and being able to look away without missing dialogue.
@@jasonreed7522 I don't dislike HxH dub but it misses the spot sometimes imo. But it's probably original VA's being so fantastic that kinda overshadows the dub a little bit. Either way, as someone trying to learn english and japanese i am very grateful for all these people's work.
Satoshi
You know who else sounds like muscle man vs ash?
@@jasonreed7522 sub > dub always every time
Man now that I realized it knuckle the biggest actor in hxh universe man screamed before he was even touched 🤣🤣
These enhancers are all alike most of them like uvo and gon sure can scream and we don't need to explain their strength
Enhancers are actually the most balanced of the six types of nen users.
@AlHasan Sameh that's true an intelligent enhancer can be a formidable opponent
Now imagine an enhancer whiz enhancers quality isn’t great but everything else is enhanced
@AlHasan Sameh to be fair they might be enhancers because they are simple minded rather than just chance that all of the enhancers are brutes. Hisoka’s personality test is far from accurate but there are some very clear consistencies between characters of the same nen type.
Also as much as I love netero, didn’t he get to where he is by just spending days punching the air until he had basically perfected punching, his fighting style isn’t too far removed from as simple as uvogin’s is. He just summons a big bhodvista to punch for him.
@AlHasan Sameh When I said simple minded, I meant his fighting style not his intelligence. Netero has shown to be a fairly cunning strategist (the forethought to get the rose bomb installed) and knows how to push people’s buttons (most of the hunter exam arc lol). Just that his fighting style is basically still just hit fast and hard. His nen ability would be incredibly weak on the average person as the nen required to summon the “statue” (I can never spell it right) is immense and the conditions would make it useless for most (can’t move without having to resummon, have to pray between punches etc). So netero is obviously a very skilled and fighter and nen user, but still just the same principle of punch hard and fast.
Dont let this distract you from the fact that bungee gum has properties of both rubber and gum
Yes hisoka, we know
Now stop perving on gon 😤
wrrr
This is a fact, that can not be overstated.
But have you considered the fact that bungee gum has the properties of both rubber and gum?
I’m gonna be honest. That strategy was so fucking simple only an enhancer would bank everything on it.
And only a fucking emitter would seriously not see it coming.
Isn’t Knuckle an Enhancer too? He should’ve seen something like that coming.
@@yaboigamerdouji7573 He's Emitter and Manipulator.
@@kostuchan4418 Ah
@@kostuchan4418 and he uses conjuration
@@Ace2014Ace also his alteration skill is at 100
Knuckle turns into a wwe announcer during his own fight
Xddd
Knuckle really be like:"I'll throw down with a 12 year old I dont give a fuuuuuck"
I recognise that reference and salute you
WE MUST SAVE MY FAMILY!
And then teamed up with him to kill some bugs 😂
A JA JAN KEN COMBO ATTACK
Damn, that line was so good tbh
I like the part where Gon has to prove he can be on the team and is told to attack as if the guy fighting Gon was the one responsible for killing Kite. Thats a scary scene!
Yes, that was Morell
I love Josuke but people ought to start getting this straight, Knuckle is a homage to Kuwabara from Togashi's earlier work, Yu*Yu*Hakusho.
Yes
Yup. The hair and personality are exactly the same. I love Kuwabara!😅
@@a1.ghost.
Same
They both goats
i think those 3 would be great friends
lol what? Just no, Knuckle isn't supposed to be a "homage to kuwabara from togashi's earlier work yu yu hakusho" AT ALL, lol Knuckle isn't supposed to be a "homage" to anything in particular, he's just supposed to resemble a pompadour hair stylized street thug that was popular in japan during the 1960 and 1970s, think of the Japanese equivalent of a american 1950s greaser. Character archetypes like this are ALL over in anime as MOST anime have a character like this. Josuke has that kind of look as well, Knuckle isn't supposed to be a "homage" to ANY particular character at all.
The old bait and combo. Gon’s not strong when it comes to Emitter style nen attacks, so use it as a decoy while you charge the follow up
Yes dibshit, that's what the video said
@@whodis799why so hostile?
*MA MOST EFFECTIVE WEAPON:*
*haha paper go brrr-*
kalluto is that you?
Knuckle is literally Josuke lol
Hes not hes okuyasu va
@@crazyfriend50 that's in the sub
@@rishabhanand4973 if you watch dub you are a disgrace
@@crazyfriend50 your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries
@@crazyfriend50 I fart in your general direction
Gon, why you hate scissors?
Fr, he used it once and we never saw that attack again :/
Probably cause it would of killed him. Only for people gon wants to kill
@@samuelthomson6644 that and because it's weaker than scissors
It cuts
It’s a slice attack. He’s not aiming to kill anyone now so no sense in using it against someone in a sparring match
Gotta love the dub. If nothing else, good for engagement. By that, I mean the people who physically can't help but click the video to complain about it.
True that 💀
Those people are absolutely terrible, the HxH dub is FANTASTIC as well as MOST english dubs for MOST anime for the last 20 years.
LOL That's NOT "good for engagement" AT ALL, I HATE dub haters who complain and hate nonstop as most english dub anime are FANASTIC like hxh.
the dub sounds so much like pokemon to me xD
Without researching it i would assume its from the same period/same actors. I know the announcer in the tower arc (when they first learn nen) sounds identical to the anouncer in tournaments in early pokemon (up to gen 3 i think), so it does hit a nostalgia of that late 90s early 00s for me. (Modern pokemon i couldn't watch if i wanted to, admittedly it is 100% a kids show)
Not seeing how, they sound NOTHING alike AT ALL. HxH sounds WAY more professional and for older audience clearly.
This is basically the same technique he used against Hisoka with the arena stone tile, a distraction followed by an attack from the blind spot.
I bet when you saw paper for the first time
You didn't think it would be the only time
I love how Gon and Killua are mirrored by Knuckle and shoot
Knuckle is pretty much Josuke with Okuyasu's personality...
...which pretty much sums up Kuwabara from YYH in a nutshell😂
knuckles being in agonizing pain screaming is my guilty pleasure
Seeing Gon nenless in the hospital is also my guilty pleasure :)
When the Heavens Arena music starts playing >>>
I never understood why Togashi made paper so much weaker than rock... Gon should have an 80% proficiency with emission and he did train it a lot, it's not like he just said fuck it, I'll only use rock. 80% should still be a shit your pants amount of aura coming from Gon. This man was making morel sweat for his life just shortly after this...
I have a couple theories. Paper likely gets weaker the further the distance and knuckle was decently far. Also, If paper was concentrated to the size of a fist, it would likely be 80% of rock, but gon made it a lot bigger, so it could block knuckle’s vision. However, that weakened the Paper even more.
Imagine if gon using paper in adult mode it will be like kamehameha
You can hear the background noise in Knuckle's VA's mic
Adults in this show fighting pre-teens like it's ok
Ngl these Eng Dub actors ain’t that bad a choice for the characters. I’m surprised. ALSO, What episode is this from???
I know it’s the one where they make sure gon is ready for the chimeras
He makes what’s his name crap himself when he powers up rock
The VA's aren't bad, but the final result is cringe af.
I honestly think Gon just straight up forgets has things besides Rock Paper Rock.
I'm pretty sure this is the only time he uses Rock Paper Paper, and he uses Tock Paper Scissors only once, too
The problem is they are a lot weaker. Any effort he puts into training them is only 60% efficient. They use up a lot more Nen for less output.
Feel like it's odd that we're not seeing any brown spots in that all white outfit after that.
I think it’s weird that even with the dubbed version, he still says “Jan-Ken-paper”.
In Japan, Jankenpon is said right before you throw down your choice of rock, paper, scissors. But In English, we just say “Rock-Paper-Scissors” in substitution for Jankenpon and then we throw down the choice.
So in the dub, he should’ve just said, “Rock-Paper-Paper” since he uses the last word of “pon” in replacement of whatever he throws down. But mostly throughout the series, he would just say “Rock-Paper-Rock” since he uses rock 90% of the time. Just saiyan.
The dubbers have a very complicated job with matching mouth movements, length of sentences, tone with facial expressions on top of strict dealines. This might simply have been the only way to get lip movements, etc to match up. Because it's something Gon says more than once, they had to have something they can reuse. That would be my guess
@@litatjie sure but if you look at his mouth movement for when he says “show me Rock” (specifically rock) early on and then when he says “Jan”, it’s the same mouth movement… he literally just opens and closes his mouth the same.
@@themultiverseman I'm seinem not following your argument then....
@@litatjie I get the companies who have to translate and dub words, the same words used in Japanese aren’t going to have the same mouth movements. But when he says “Jan-Ken-Paper” he uses the same mouth movement for “Jan” / “Rock”, and we don’t even see him use the word paper. Which is probably why they said Paper instead of the Japanese word for paper since it’s English dub. And I suppose one could argue that “Ken” is a one word syllable, while paper/scissors are two word syllables, but I mean dubbing companies have overlapped words before and since it’s such a signature move, it’s just weird they are combining the two versions of “Jan-Ken-Pon” / “Rock-Paper-Scissors”.
That would be the equivalent of them dubbing “Kage bunshin no Jutsu” / “Shadow clone jutsu” and saying “Shadow bunshin jutsu”.
@@themultiverseman I think you answered your own objection here. It's an iconic move. It repeats over and over in the anime. And I do think that, combined with the syllable difference, is probably why they did it the way they did. But you seem to have made up your mind so let's agree to disagree.
man i love this show
jang ken PAPER 💀
0:50 bruhhh im dead Knuckle moans
Niggggggga😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I thought paper would be an aoe attack like how it would blanket a rock.
Imagine if he turned into adult gon at that moment lol.
It would be an awkward funeral and explanation.
Im glad he at least says Jan Ken Paper. It would sound so weird if he said rock paper paper lol. Might give the sub a try when i watch this again eventually the dubs pretty hit or miss at points.
And the sub always hitting hard
@@Miguel_Noether facts
I like the sub more
Both r goated
I always thought he was the successor in spirit to Kuwabara
Bro could’ve just used crazy diamond 😂
I didn’t know Kuwabara was in hxh too
the enemy just straight up josuke and okuyasu having fusion
They say "emissions from gon should be much weaker cuz he's a enhancer " but its 80% which should still be very powerful considering how strong his rock is
Technically isnt gon a 1 star (of 3) enhancer atp? Whereas he hasnt ventured much into his emitter affinity? Probably why - it is a drastic difference though
Why tf does his say Jan ken in dub, Jan ken means rock paper
Well i mean it sounds way better
Because it makes more sense
Because poor translation issues. Its why certain anime work better in japanese vs english. Saying the japanese name of an attack in english comes off as silly, and a lot of animes get ruined by poor VA of those pronunciations.
janken can also mean "evil fist" which is significantly cooler than rock paper scissors
@@davidgould6351 nah. Cuz scissors and paper aren’t fists. Doesn’t fit
ナックル突然英語喋り出してビビったw
😆
Like a 1 2 combo but you fake the first jab
ジャンケンペイパーしっくりこんwwww
Gon's out here nearly beating hunters who are double his age; just saying he's gonna be nastier than Uvugon when he's an adult
I feel like we already got a glimpse of his adult power when he faught Pitou
@@cesier123 not really we just knew he was equal to the king and to be honest with the later chapters there are a lot of things stronger than the king; that form was like bisky but reverse just enough to beat Pitou, if he had asked for more power he probably would've died instantly rather then being bed-ridden
@@krischainz I wouldn't say equal to mureum.
1:41
NO SPEED
NO PUNCH
NO BI-
Ok hold on Janken is Rock paper scissors so what’s the fucking point in saying it and then saying paper 💀
Omg the voices, my ears oh god kill me
CC: A Judge on cake combo attack!
God the English dub sounds so silly
This author always spoil gons attack when he spars with an ally, let them feel the power bruhhh for once
Inverted Kuwabara.
Is it really faster to block the paper instead of side stepping it? Also what if they simply so a killua and beat your ass while you're charging
Jesus Christ is the way, truth, and the life 🙌 🙏
But does a overseer have trample?
What the hell is kuwabara doing in HxH
Wow so basically paper is useless, because anybody that knows he's an enhancer, knows it is only useful as a mediocre distraction. Gon really is boring AF.
Muscle man ? That you?
What are the properties of bungee gum?
Why is paper so weak I mean emission is right next to enhancement. Did Gon made it weak on purpose
He was probably less proficient using his nen with emitter attacks maybe? He didn’t have much energy left so that could be part of it
bruh thats cheating
only way knuckles wouldve won that exchange was if he played paper
AH JANJANKEN COMBO ATTACK! NOOOOOO!!
Oh no broo!!
0:13 Kuwabara Black
Ohhhhhh Gon😋
Ok Hisoka, calm down! Lol
Hadouken!!!!
Knuckles voice actor reminds me of Muscle Man
I thought paper would be a shield:(
Same
Or a trap that surrounds it's target in an aura... (Imagine paper covering rock)
its not even a match.. theres a handicap.. no istando powuh
Uhh guys is that josuke from jjba?
Bruh what episode
why in my tv when im in season 5 theres no english dub
Why is Josuke in this anime?
VA shouldve said it english
I got this recommended and it reminded me how bad and stupid the English dub sounds in anime
Dub WutFace
oh god the dub is terrible 🤣🤣🤣 how do you pronounce the main characters name wrong lol. & then he says , jan ken…PAPER ??????🤣 like come on. i’ve never heard the dub before…but i swear….if he also says , jan ken rock , ima lose it lol
Hxh dub is good
Why he sound like demon 🕵 friend
So cringe in English 💀
Same in sub
why english
😂
No disrespect to the dub team, but I'm so happy I watched the original language. Japanese is way more emotional and dramatic.
Ur opinion
Opinion
Go watch the Japanese then.
Literally no one asked
@@GokuSolosAnime
Fr
I try dub.... I can't. Translation is too terrible
Translation in dub is the same as sub
@@yohankuriyan7633 lmao sub watches always wanna seen so cool but look so dumb
The dub is so cringe.
Christ I'm glad I watched sub
these dubs are awkward
They can't even get his name right.... I do hate dubs most days
The dub is so bad oml 😂
dub .....
I Like the Idea behind gon's jajanken and round 2 ia a good concept but i Hope that gon If He ever get his Nen abilitys Back that He Builds a better ability 😅
Holy shit the dub is so cringe
Nah it's fine. It is just that you have different taste
i like this video cuz i hate knuckle
Lol, why?
its physically hurt when u hear it in English Dub #lame
Dub > sub
Dub = sub for HXH imo.
Eww English dub is awful.
This reminds me just how bad dub is
Ew, a weeb
@@maheerfaisal8242 I have more girls than you though 😅
@@chetanss6542 what does girl have to do with this?
@@maheerfaisal8242 your too much of a week to undeerstand Ig
Holy shit the dub sucks so much
The dub is so bad