Walther PDP 4.5" Steel Frame | First Impressions
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- If you know what gun I've been using for pistol competitions then it's probably no surprise to you that I picked up the Walther PDP 4.5" in steel frame this last week! In this video I'll go over my initial impressions of this gun, and why I chose it over the other PDP steel frame options.
0:00 Intro
0:54 Feature Set
1:19 Why the 4.5" over the 5"
1:45 Initial Thoughts
2:48 Optic Plate Delay
3:30 Future Review
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I got my optic plate within a week. I live in Alaska. That's practically considered overnight delivery!
Thank you for reviewing the non-competition version. This is literally the only review of the PDP SF 4.5” anywhere on YT. I want one of these for my bedside gun, but everyone’s fawning over the PDP SF Q5, so the 4” and 4.5” have no info available from gun channels. Great video!
I want the 4" SF
I want the 4" SF but holster companies need to give it some love, holy fuck.
You dont need a video review to confirm you to buy a gun all 3 of the steel frame line can be used for competition or self-defense the same as the plastic pdp line
@@boomee78 The difference between a 4” and 5” barrel can be pretty drastic in 9mm. For example, the PPQ 5” shoots like an absolute dream, while the PPQ 4” is a bit snappy. When a machine is operating at the speed of sound, very small details can make a big difference.
Walther coming out with the other sizes for this is honestly super clutch and I want THIS one.
Walther PDP-F 4” is my EDC. Super reliable, shoots great! It’s funny you mention the optics plate. Was also worried about the wait time but mine also came in less than a week!
Thanks for another great video Tessah. Walther makes quality products and I have my eye on the PDP-F in the 4 inch barrel. I’m waiting until after shot show to see if anything new is introduced
Favorite thing about Walther is the German proof marks.
"It's really nice" 😂😂 I was not expecting that 😅
I was going to say, a 3 week wait is wild because my plate took a weekend to get to me. Glad yours came that fast too. Looking forward to your thoughts
I got two PDP's and each took less than a week for me to get my plate. Glad yours was just as fast. Jealous, will be following along and seeing how you like this. I refer all of my lady friends getting into shooting to your channels since you had the perfect journey of small guns to bigger guns and appreciate you breaking down the methodology from a female's perspective.
Interesting observations.
I just sold my polymer Walther PDP 4" compact because of the snappy muzzle rise and its slow return-to-zero. I focused on my grip at great lengths and could shoot it decent but it forced me think too much about my grip on rapid fire and double taps. I loved the pistol accuracy and reliability. I will very likely grab a 4.5" PDP-SF and see how that does. Thanks for the nice intro to this model. Well done!
I had the same exact experience with my 4" Compact, and also sold it. Accuracy was great but it felt like the gun wanted to fly out of my hands. I picked up a CZ P-10C and haven't looked back.
@@frankreynolds9936 I now own a CZ Shadow 2 Compact. It’s Mind blowing how great it shoots.
@@gair1944 Great choice. I don't have one, but I do love my P-01 / SP-01 for CZ hammer guns.
@@frankreynolds9936 I shot a friends P-01 and my S2 compact side-by-side and the P-01 made a believer out of me. That is a GREAT pistol. Excellent carry gun with its decocker.
I have medium sized hands + metal in my left hand due to a past injury but thankfully I still shoot my guns right with my right hand + grew up playing baseball and writing or signing my name left handed anyhow I just wanted to say that I've never had any major recoil issues with any of my Glock pistols and not even with a friends Glock 29 10mm. BTW I'm not a Glock fan boy but I do own 2 Glocks, a 19 & a 20.
I have been waiting 2 weeks for my plate. I ended up taking the plate off one of my other PDP’s so I can use an optic in my SF. I also emailed Walther a short video showing a trigger issue I was experiencing well over a week ago, asking for a recommendation or if I should submit a warranty claim, and have not had any response. The SF 5” is my 3rd PDP and I have to say, I am really disappointed with the customer service related to this firearm. The service was stellar with my previous 2 purchases.
I wanna try their new 380. Looks awesome
Wow Nice!
I’m surprised that all the steel frame PDP’s don’t come with the performance trigger ? I did a double take when I saw her fussing with the standard trigger shoe. Apparently, only the 5” Match SF version has the trigger upgrade and the magwell OotB. This 4.5 version seems like an unnecessary step between the standard PDP / SD Pro and the competition ready 5” SF Match ? Any gamer buying this gun is likely going to want to take the duty trigger out and install the Dynamic Performance Trigger .
Congrats on your new acquisition, Tessah. Hope it serves you well. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the new Daniel Defense H9, when you get a chance.
I got to take a sneak peek at it about a year ago, but I haven’t had a chance to shoot it!
I received my optic plate in 4 days. Surprised me!
I just bought the pdp fs pro sd with the 5.1 inch barrel and I love it! You should definitely upgrade to their dynamic performance trigger.
I had a Q4SF that was sweet
Holosun makes a version of the SCS designed specifically for the PDP series. This can mount directly to the slide without a plate, allowing it to sit lower and leaving the iron sights visible through the optic.
I saw that! I think I’ll still opt for Holosons 507 Comp though. Since I’ll be using this pistol for competition I think I’ll appreciate the larger window.
Use at least 124GR ammo. I doubt you will have wait (nevermind). LOL Every plate varies in time to get to the person. The Walther FB forums are full of nothing but complaints about the plate. Look at the upgraded Walther trigger. For a point of reference, the PDP Pro full-sized should have that trigger and be very close to the grip you have now. Hope that helps.
LOK has a good history with the Q4/Q5 grips. Keep a ready eye on them for options!
Give the new ZR Tactical Long Stroke guide rod (captured 14lb) a try in your Q5 Match. I installed one of those in my PDP Match SF and I can’t believe how flat and soft it shoots.
Ayyye! 👍
Great review, thank you.
I'm wondering if economically it would make sense for gun companies to approach optics manufacturers, and invite them to subsidize the cost of providing the plates.
If I were Holocene for example, I would happily pay a couple of dollars for every gun distributed if it went with my plate, and other companies didn't choose to do that so that the convenient option for every customer was to use my product.
Alternatively, Walther can simply choose to always provide the most popular plate at the moment with the gun, and if you want anything else then you have to order it the way you described. That way, even if you don't need that provided plate, it would be useful if you want to resell the gun, again, because it is the most popular plate.
-Cheers
I heard 4” steel version is coming out for smaller palm folks!
I’m excited for the longer grip. That was a drawback of the Q5 Match SF.
A big difference between the 4.5” & 5” is the front slide serrations and the trigger shoes are different.
Tessah I just bought a new PDP which I love and I saw the same lead time, but I got it in just a few days. I’m really interested in your opinion on this gun as I’m looking at Walther as an option for a competition gun.
Can confirm, when I ordered the plate from Walther with the code that came with my PDP F-Series 3.5", it took less than a week to show. Sounds as though it's not atypical and one of the many reasons I'm a Walther fan.
Check out the Radian Guardian+6 for the PDP. Blows any plate away for optic security
Second Comment 😀 I'm going to start competing in USPSA. I bought a competition gun and was wondering how you chose what ammo to use for competition.
please update us on your thought on the new Radian comp for p365 series!?! youll have to deck yours out!
I remember getting my optic plate for my PDP very quickly, less than a week for sure. Then, when I changed my mind and asked about getting a different one, they didn't bother charging me for it, just sent it for free. I get why they do it that way, although I'm not sure how much it really saves vs. how others do. I think I got a set of 4 or 5 different plates with one of my S&Ws.
What is weight on the slide without red dot .rod and springs? I think the 4,5 is a better than an match going back to Zero for the same reason as you have mention. I also think that will be more maneuverable. I waiting for the Match but are think to go with the 4,5 instead ( upgraded with tungsten rod and competition trigger). Hope I will got the chance to test verses each other. Nice content on this video
Nice
What optic did you end up putting on it? Holosun SCS might have been an option for you & no plate.
You should review the shadow systems XR 920
My thoughts on bouncy are threaded barrel with a comp. then subsonic ammo
Are the steel frames aimed towards comp shooting? I just wouldn’t want the extra weight on my belt? But i could be way off too
I’d only use a steel frame for competition. This version weighs the same as my stainless 1911
Eh, I wouldn't see anything wrong with it being personal carry. But that comes down to the individual ultimately.
Any updates? Did you get new grips?
I’m considering one of the steel frames but am still seeking more input. I’m hoping to hold one in my hand before purchasing.
I just got my LOK Veloce grips in about 3 days ago. Haven't had a chance to shoot with them yet though unfortunately.
@@tessahbooth I’m looking forward to hearing your thoughts when the opportunity arises.
I thought the PDP SF Match 4.5" came with the walther performance trigger. I know the 5" does. If you change the trigger I would suggest the Overwatch Precision Trigger. I actually like it more than the Walther performance trigger.
I reeeaallly want the PDP Steel 4”, but $1700….gah! I’ll probably grab the DD H9 instead for $400 less, and wait a few years for the price to settle.
You vant a optik plate? You vill vait fur it, und you vill like it!
Yes Walther, pls shorten your trigger reach. Even the F is too big for me.
Oi, are you still planning to do the camping videos and information? If so, any idea when we can expect them?
Still in the works! I don’t really have a timeline on it as of now though. Some of the plans I had in play had to change, but it’s still something I fully intend on bringing to the channel!
@@tessahbooth Understandable. Thank you for replying and I look forward to more content in the future.
Walther makes good stuff. That's a heavy gun though. If it's anything like the 1911 family, it'll not be as nose-heavy as the 5" and therefore swing around a little better.
3 week wait time... Dont come to Australia Tessah as I have had a deposit on a Walther Q5 for nearly 3 years now and still no ETA. Very painful buying guns here in Australia if it is a Walther. :(
🍻 cool
I have small hands and have the same issue with the PDP-F 3.5” that I own. I’m ready to purchase my first competition gun and this one is one that I am considering since I’m already familiar with the PDP platform. However, I can’t seem to find anyone (I’ve left comments on every RUclips video/review I can find) that can use a caliper and tell me the measured trigger reach so I can compare it to my current gun. I’ve even called Walther and they couldn’t tell me and it wasn’t on the schematic that they sent me or looked at themselves. These guns just shipped to distributors in the past two weeks and there are none in my area to see how it fits in my hand. I’m assuming this is the PDP Steel Frame Compact based on the barrel length. Any chance you can tell me the measured trigger reach?
This one is not the compact, it’s the full size 4.5”. I haven’t really tried to PDP-F so I can’t say how it compares unfortunately.
@@tessahbooth do you have a caliper that you could measure the trigger reach?
Lok grips has aftermarket thin and standard grips in all sorts of colors for this gun. But like many have said, Walther makes what is probably the best out of the box striker fired trigger in the world right now in the Dynamic Performance Trigger. It's not cheap, but if you get one of those installed in this bad girl she will purr like a tigress.
Is it a full size frame?
Do you keep both eyes open when shooting?
Anytime I'm shooting a dot, yes. When I'm shooting irons, most of the time both my eyes are open, but I wasn't able to do that until I had a couple thousand rounds through a dot!
This gun is very expensive so it should come with at least one plate, they could include an RMR plate with every gun sold and it really shouldn't add much to the cost. Its a drilled and tapped piece of steel or aluminum with some little recoil bosses.
Not sure what the point is of handguns that are too big to readily conceal carry unless they are for remote area use against large animals like bears, in which case a .357 Mag or .44 Mag revolver is best. A Glock 26 also accepts 15, 17, 24 and 33 round Glock mags... can the battleship sized PDP do that? If not...
It’s competition focussed for me. Not sure how others intend to use it though.
Fyi the q5 match is the one you want no bounce at all
That's the one I was competing with before this, and let me tell you, it's significantly more bouncy than this PDP. So much so that I'm getting rid of my Q5
You do not have the dynamic Trigger! The Dynamic Trigger is a Flat Trigger and not curved!
You need a CZ in your life.
Bouncing gun? I think a quality 2011 is the answer.
You got a gun you can’t shoot? Geeze.