@@Loanshark753 That is a thing already on every car, It is called brakes. Brakes get very hot and dump that heat very fast, a lot of it goes through the wheel and heats the air in the tyre in turn heating the rubber.
@@NotCommanderShepard This is correct! The normal road tire in both motorbikes and cars is not designed to run hot. It's designed to run at anywhere from ambient temperature to amb x 2 ... any hotter than that it will overheat and become greasy. It's the same as using race tires if you cannot maintain the temperatures in the tires. Road tire starts to lose grip at surface temp of about 70 degrees celsius. Racing slick only begins to work properly at temperatures 85+ degrees celsius. A racing slick can operate as hot as 150 degrees celsius and still have bite, this depends on the manufacturer of course. But if you overheat a racing slick, it will become just as greasy as overheated road tire.
3 seconds doesn't sound like a lot but on a minute-and-a-half lap, it's a whole different performance class. If memory serves, that was about how much faster the last Viper ACR was against the same-year Z06 at Laguna Seca when tested by the Motor Trend guys. It translated to 12-13 seconds faster on the Nordschleife.
More of this please. There is a hole in our lives that can only be filled by guys doing silly stuff with cars, and that hole has been getting bigger the past few years. So I'd love if you filled my hole... No, sorry..
Man this is such great content coming from you guys. Been following y'all for close to a year now, even took a fundy course, great to see you guys pushing your development!
I'm wondering if pressure was taking into account... Mr2 weights about 1180kg and has no downforce, F1 cars weighted arround 750kg when these tyres were used, but they produce up to 3750 kg of downforce which would put these tyres under a total of 4500 kg of force, actually increansing contact patch. So yeah, I think cold pressures should be way lower when installing these tyres in street cars to try to compensate to the lack of downforce so the contact patch is actually consisten with their real use case.
When I first started watching Scott's stuff it was quite dry but inciteful, now I feel like we're seeing the real mad bastard Scott and co come out! More please!
imagine Taking your car to the mechanic because of some minor adjustments he had to make and when you come back your car is all chopped up 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 great vid guys !
Considering this is like putting the hardest set of tires, plastic drifting tires, on an RC car, what tires would be like putting the Foam tires from a 1:12 scale pan car on a 1:1 automobile?
I'd love to know more about these tires and where they came from. They could be 'show tires' which were never designed to be driven on. I suspect they are show tires because as far as i know Pirelli take race spec tires back and destroy them in order to protect trade secrets (and also say they recycle all used rubber because it's good PR). Or they may be race used which means they have less tread depth and wont have anywhere near as much grip as they should.
Correct, Pirelli takes back and destroys ALL f1 tires and have since around 2011. So, if this IS a set of actual F1 tires, and not a show or fake set, (which are exceedlingly rare) they are at least 13 years old and would be unlikely to perform anywhere near modern tires.
Thats a pretty good choice in vehicle and stance too. The wheels have an extremely wide stance like F1, and it's mid engine. If it could sit lower it would be almost perfect
When the aerodynamics actually keep those tires planted down on those light vehicles at high rates of speed FYI those vehicles don't supply or Dynamics like an F1
It's always interesting to try different stuff but F1 wheels are designed for a whole setup that goes in harmony with the car dimensions, aero, weight and other settings. Single F1 parts won't improve speed on normal cars simply because they are optimized for a specific setup and a specific car along with a specific course.
seems we forgot something in the equation. the car itself. you cant just throw on sticky fat tyres on a car and expect it to drive like a race car. you're missing an important ingredient: being acclimated and accustomed to to its particular driving feel. short wheelbase rear wheel drive vehicles, especially ones with the majority of their mass located in the middle, regardless of their balance bias, have a tendancy to be very nimble, but to also oversteer and spin out, and as the mass is nearer the center rather than the extremeties, regardless of the front/rear balance bias, they spin out faster and more violently, and this makes it especially difficult to recover from oversteer, to the point you almost have to force it to oversteer the otherway if you can catch it in time just to straighten it out.
Looks like an overgrown RC Car.
With plastic Drifting Tires. Can't get the F1 Tires warm enough and don't have enough downforce.
Looks like a kart with a kids car body to me
Bro🤣🤣🤣
I mean that's an MR2 for ya
Ikr
players on GTA online be like...
😂if u know u know
Lol thaats what im saying (relatable i am the car)
🤣🤣🤣
F1 teams really need to hire these guys! 3 sec a lap gained for only £11,000... imagine the improvements with the budget of an F1 team!
They were already hired. They are the reason for Ferrari's pace.
@@tristanjahari4193 Are you allowed to talk about confidential employee information?
@@gandalf_thegrey Oops, guess that's Spygate 2.0...
@@tristanjahari4193 So, that's how McLaren magically jumped to P3.
Bring in the hammers.
This channel has old Top gear vibes & im sooooooo here for it I’ve been waiting
Someone said what I was thinking 🙏🏾
This is a chaotic energy I didn't expect from the serious videos I saw initially. And I love it.
Early top gear 2.0?
@@big_fox48 grazie
funny how this channel is kind of like donut media
The fact they did this without a roll bar is insane haha
Would be interesting to see what happens if you just use the tyre warmers on the road tyres then go for a lap 🤔
You just broke the whole video.
What about embedding tirewarmers on the inside of the tires.
@@Loanshark753 That is a thing already on every car, It is called brakes. Brakes get very hot and dump that heat very fast, a lot of it goes through the wheel and heats the air in the tyre in turn heating the rubber.
I'd assume they'd lose their grip if heated to higher temps than 90 degrees celcius, thus making the car slower.
@@NotCommanderShepard This is correct! The normal road tire in both motorbikes and cars is not designed to run hot. It's designed to run at anywhere from ambient temperature to amb x 2 ... any hotter than that it will overheat and become greasy.
It's the same as using race tires if you cannot maintain the temperatures in the tires.
Road tire starts to lose grip at surface temp of about 70 degrees celsius.
Racing slick only begins to work properly at temperatures 85+ degrees celsius. A racing slick can operate as hot as 150 degrees celsius and still have bite, this depends on the manufacturer of course. But if you overheat a racing slick, it will become just as greasy as overheated road tire.
Now I wanna see the full wets, I think they should work at lower temperatures so they might be way better in a normal car lol
imho inters would do better if it's not really raining just damp at worst and ~15+ °C
Yep low temp racing tired makes way more sense
Yeah the big grooves would probably be good for a really rainy day
The video wouldn't be as funny though lol
yeah and they are softer so probably more grip
Frankly I'm impressed that the tire didn't go flat when it was in the wheelwell
Winner of a style/format you got here 100%
Cheers!
*bro did a GTA5 merge glitch*
Getting Top Gear/Grand Tour vibes from this channel now. I really like the direction you guys are taking, keep it up!
*Car lover vibes
Fantastic!
Down force/weight are also probably a huge factor to get the most of the tyres.
I'm here for this 2000s top gear energy, more of this please 🙏
this be like a modded car in gta v
With all that new space cleared up, y'all better give that MR2 a damn good wheel setup
3 seconds doesn't sound like a lot but on a minute-and-a-half lap, it's a whole different performance class. If memory serves, that was about how much faster the last Viper ACR was against the same-year Z06 at Laguna Seca when tested by the Motor Trend guys. It translated to 12-13 seconds faster on the Nordschleife.
0:48 Can confirm, Large nuts and Digital Gas - Anal works brilliants when fitting a different wheel and tire setup.
ah u beat me to it
These experimental car comparisons all over RUclips really grabs my attention!
Just 11 grand for 3 seconds, F1 teams spend millions for a few tenths
Value for money!
🤣
LOL XD
Regular racing tires would have got him 5 seconds.
All my cars on gta be like
MR2 Spyder is an underrated car🤷♂️ With a couple body mods, some wheels, tires, and suspension it can actually look really nice.
Not underrated anymore. People now know they are very close to an Elise and they are selling of allot of money now
@@04dram04 theyve never sold alot thats why they ayopped making them
Its an MR-S
@@Y-e-s-Man they were badged both. in some countries it was specifically "MR2 Spyder"
@@mr2marc well yeah the MR-S is just a son of the mr2
Looks like a car you see a modder driving in GTA Online
Getting close to Top Gear type of comedy.
Scott’s energy is an mix of Ben and Jeremy
Three idiots and a hammer seems to be the secret formula
that may have been the first time in the world a group has wrapped a grown man in F1 tire warmers
wow! great video guys
I was thinking about doing this to my MRS the other day.
Glad to know someone else is thinking along the same lines.
I tried telling everyone in GTA 5, that F1 tires make you go faster.!
Here's the proof 😂
You could use wet tyres , they warm up faster
I thought pinks where better than purples, idk about how fast they warm up tho
Good idea. I wish there was a racing sim where you could do that kind of experiments as well.
Would you be able to get the same 3 seconds with a properly sized set of racing tires that are up to temp? I know that's not the point just curious.
Not even racing tire. Just aggressive compound like Cup 2s or RE71rs.
Lol I think some ps4s’s could do it. Fun video though.
I'd say properly sized tires would get even better gains due to better stability and control
@@m1l3s27
I second this. I think your tire choices would be perfect if warmed up :)
Episode 2?
2022 gta car mods be like:
More of this please. There is a hole in our lives that can only be filled by guys doing silly stuff with cars, and that hole has been getting bigger the past few years. So I'd love if you filled my hole... No, sorry..
🤣 yes lol! And on that bombshell....
Back to the studio
“filled my hole” 🤨🤨🤨
Shit just went from zero to one hundred real quick. I mean, seriously.
i say this as a big car guy, and i know this might sounds cringe, but, the hole can only be filled with Jesus. trust me, he’s changed my life
Now I'm curious if you'd be able to keep the tires at temp without a massive amount of downforce
Channeling some TG vibes with the shenanigans, one liners, banter, and just overall bloke-ish reasoning XD I love it!
this looks so ridiculous, and i f***** love it haha
These types of videos suit you really well! More of this is great!
Gosh this video must have taken so much work time and money to do. Can't imagine. That was entertaining, thanks.
Man this is such great content coming from you guys. Been following y'all for close to a year now, even took a fundy course, great to see you guys pushing your development!
Great video!
I really like what you guys are doing here on this channel!
Average Gran Theft Auto Online player: I HAVE IT!
I'm wondering if pressure was taking into account... Mr2 weights about 1180kg and has no downforce, F1 cars weighted arround 750kg when these tyres were used, but they produce up to 3750 kg of downforce which would put these tyres under a total of 4500 kg of force, actually increansing contact patch.
So yeah, I think cold pressures should be way lower when installing these tyres in street cars to try to compensate to the lack of downforce so the contact patch is actually consisten with their real use case.
Also they should weld ginormous spoilers all over it.
The cold pressures were low for those tyres, 18psi all round
but that's the max downforce (high speed) where tyres don't matter they matter in mid& slow speed corners, traction
The 3rd gen mr2 weighs less than 1000 kilos
@@shingosshojiopoulos6608 Thank you was just about to comment this, 980kg if I’m not mistaken
I enjoy these shenanigans and the humour. Top Gear-esque
Car was great, shenanigans were great, editing was great. Great video.
This man is doing F1 tire merge glitches in real life
If YT wasn't better than TV nowadays, you guys should be the Top Gear hosts.
A lot of Jeremy, Richard and James vibes on this segment hahahah
The new real life gta 5 f1 merge glitch is crazy
When I first started watching Scott's stuff it was quite dry but inciteful, now I feel like we're seeing the real mad bastard Scott and co come out! More please!
Having someone wrapped in tire warmers to see how hot they get , equals 1 subscriber
In French MR2 actually sounds like "emmerdé" which means "pissed off" (as in annoyed).
He did the gta f1 tire merge glitch😂
How about reducing the tire pressures to get a larger contact patch?
It needs a smaller contact patch!
That would increase rolling resistance.
8:29 best shot of the vid
Everyone does need their own Richard.
*THAT WAS BRILLIANT FUN* well worth your £11,000
Ahh man, I love MR2's, this is sacrilege!... But damn entertaining! 🤣🤣
imagine Taking your car to the mechanic because of some minor adjustments he had to make and when you come back your car is all chopped up 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 great vid guys !
0:48 our camera man is the funniest guy in the world 😂
I love this energy, i thought it would go horribly but i loved it lmao.
I don't know these brits can come up with such funny "ambitious but rubbish" ideas!
Keep on with more pls
Heard of brexit?
@@moonzerp00 That was just a rubbish idea from the beginning
Actually this video makes a great point: just because race cars/off-road trucks use it doesn't mean it will work for you on a street
Considering this is like putting the hardest set of tires, plastic drifting tires, on an RC car, what tires would be like putting the Foam tires from a 1:12 scale pan car on a 1:1 automobile?
Those tires are really good for snow, but DAMN good for heavy rain and ice!
Whoever is editing these deserves a raise
Average GTA player: "Yoh dawg looks fukin sick brou!!"
I'd love to know more about these tires and where they came from. They could be 'show tires' which were never designed to be driven on. I suspect they are show tires because as far as i know Pirelli take race spec tires back and destroy them in order to protect trade secrets (and also say they recycle all used rubber because it's good PR). Or they may be race used which means they have less tread depth and wont have anywhere near as much grip as they should.
Correct, Pirelli takes back and destroys ALL f1 tires and have since around 2011. So, if this IS a set of actual F1 tires, and not a show or fake set, (which are exceedlingly rare) they are at least 13 years old and would be unlikely to perform anywhere near modern tires.
Thats a pretty good choice in vehicle and stance too. The wheels have an extremely wide stance like F1, and it's mid engine. If it could sit lower it would be almost perfect
awesome, now put a v10 in the mr2
Bro modded a gta car and brought it into real life
With this amount of effort into the new channel u guys are putting in its gonna be a good ride for sure. Got my sub on this one too.
When the aerodynamics actually keep those tires planted down on those light vehicles at high rates of speed FYI those vehicles don't supply or Dynamics like an F1
Scott is always so professional in the analysis and technical videos and here he just embodies an absolute shitter. Love it.
There’s a glitch that merges these wheels onto the car this is the long way about it.
Bro did the GTA glitch in real life
This was awesome!
Bro f1 merged in Real life
The moment Scott showed tyre warmer blankets I immediately knew he was going to wrap someone in it for shits n giggles.
these gta modded car guys are takin it too far lol
I suspect they would have had better results with wets
I would imagine having extreme amount of grip that your suspension isn’t built to handle would cause, grip issues lol
It's always interesting to try different stuff but F1 wheels are designed for a whole setup that goes in harmony with the car dimensions, aero, weight and other settings. Single F1 parts won't improve speed on normal cars simply because they are optimized for a specific setup and a specific car along with a specific course.
Like filling an unleaded grade car with premium gas
Gta online be like
Videazo bro sigue asi y llegaras muy alto
Nobody, people who play gta
0:41 "all I had to do was..." proceeds to preach🤦♂️
Modders on Gta V Online:
Challenge - Dragster Tires on Miata, would love to see that!
Next time you go back to that shop, tell them that "NUTS" doesn't need an apostrophe
I felt like I was watching a top gear episode, I mean this is perfect
Where my GTA players at? 😂
Why does this remind me so much of Top Gear? Love it! :)
Putting F1 tires on a road car is useless because the road car will never be able to get these tires on working temperatures.
The result at 8:04 - three seconds faster with f1 tires
Any gta moddes car
GTA 5 online kids taking notes for their irl cars🤣🤣
We got irl F1 merge before gta6
I love this video. It has a very Top Gear vibe to it (Jeremy, Hammond, James).
yep, definitely going to swap my mr2 wheels with f1 rims
bro tested gta 5 glitches in real life
Videos of the year 🏆
seems we forgot something in the equation. the car itself. you cant just throw on sticky fat tyres on a car and expect it to drive like a race car. you're missing an important ingredient: being acclimated and accustomed to to its particular driving feel. short wheelbase rear wheel drive vehicles, especially ones with the majority of their mass located in the middle, regardless of their balance bias, have a tendancy to be very nimble, but to also oversteer and spin out, and as the mass is nearer the center rather than the extremeties, regardless of the front/rear balance bias, they spin out faster and more violently, and this makes it especially difficult to recover from oversteer, to the point you almost have to force it to oversteer the otherway if you can catch it in time just to straighten it out.