How Paul lowered his SHBG
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- Опубликовано: 20 дек 2022
- Paul explains how he implemented more Boron in hopes of lowering his SHBG, and whether he thinks it worked. He also talks about incorporating phlebotomy into his routine, his most recent ferritin levels, and how he feels about “iron overload.”
thank you for being transparent
Paul I am extremely interested in this. By giving blood you're free testosterone jumped almost 100% from 14 to 25 and you are off the charts marked as high free t at the age of 45!
This is remarkable and can be groundbreaking stuff. Hemochromatosis or not we have to learn more about what is happening here. So many man suffer from high shbg. You are on to something and credit to Elliot for spotting it.
I agree. This is a HUGE discovery if true
Thanks Paul. Im trying to figure out the same think from InsideTracker. I just got my shbg and it was high at 53, ferritin at 106, iron 129, ts 47%.
For those of us that don’t have the benefit of getting our grass fed/finished beef in Costa Rica it would be nice to know if we were given some great places where to buy here. There is a farm in Georgia that practices regenerative agriculture called White Oaks Farm and Dr. Mark Hyman in his news letter talks about Force of Nature grass fed/grass finished beef as a reliable source.
I've heard this theory once that stated the reason woman outlive men is because of menstruation thus getting rid of iron in their blood.
Dr. I love how you’re helping people improve their lives and nutrition. 🙏🏻Your homocysteine is high. You’re definitely iron loading and vitamin c (your fruit) is going to contribute to this even more - dangerous duo. I love animal based, but I do not feel it’s natural to have access to this much red meat at all times and many carnivores are struggling with iron overload. Is a proper diet one that requires you to give blood constantly? The body is trying to give you signals. Appreciate you! Be well!!
Well said. It is not natural to have to give blood. If you have a gene disorder then so be it but it is not natural to have to give blood just to maintain correct iron levels in the body. Something here is off whether it is Paul's diet causing this or a gene disorder (hemachromotisis) or possibly something wrong in the body such as a heavy metal toxic issue causing this downstream....either way we need to dig further on this
Since we don't menstruate, men are at higher risk of this. Especially if they took any iron supplements, multi's or ate fortified foods, which are most packaged foods in the west. Long covid also causes excess iron accumulation. Diet alone is unlikely to do this.
Hey I had hepatitis c from heroin use when I was younger. It turns out liver scarring and decreased liver function can increase shbg. But also increased iron, increasing shbg. Just something to consider. Thank you for your research
I eat liver, kidneys and beef every day and have cooked in iron pans for years. I have donated blood 4 times a year for the last 3 years. Before each donation they test for iron. My iron levels are perfect every time. The saying of cooking in iron and consuming liver will give you excessive iron levels may be old wives tales. ..donate blood regularly, they will test your iron levels, you will dump any excess iron and also toxins, and help others at the same time
Smart
I don't think donating blood gets rid of so-called toxins that's also an old wives sale isn't it
Same here
I donate blood at least 3 times a year. Donating blood not only may save someone’s life in a tragic accident but I feel there is also health benefits.
Are you testing your ferritin levels too? Iron test doesn’t normally include that from what I have seen. 4 times a year your ferritin is probably really low.
You mentioned that you experienced a delayed puberty. Check this out Paul.
In one study, hypogonadism was present in 65% of men with β-thalassemia, while hypothyroidism was only present in 4% [8]. Furthermore, male children with β-thalassemia will often fail to enter puberty unless the iron is chelated [9, 10].
I find it ironic (wow no pun intended there lol) that quite possibly you had iron overload and this iron overload was corrected by phlebotomy and you also mentioned that you had delayed puberty. The odds are leaning towards a possibility that you could have this genetic trait.
What do you think Paul? I have been following you for years and this that we are stumbling on about iron overload and SHBG thanks to Elliot Overton has my mind blown. This is groundbreaking. I hope you have a follow up video to this topic.
Really interesting.
We're on the opposite side 8f the bridge. My ferritin was 43 ,FT 7, and SHBG 79 last November. Now on April 8, my ferritin was 41, FT 11, and SHBG 58. I changed my diet in December by replacing chicken breast with beef, about 1 pound each day. My ferritin went down because I'd been cooking it with red wine all along and sprinkling it with curcumin. Now, 150 ferritin is the safe range fir a man. Under 70 you're veering towards anemia
I just got a blood viscosity test and it’s on the low end of the range. So a phlebotomy wouldn’t help me?
Does anyone knows if giving plasma has the same effect(lowering shbg). The reason I am asking is, you can donate plasma every 14 days, but blood once per 3 months and its very hard to find someone who will bleed you out just because you want to :D
Doc, are you concerned about your rise in CRP?
Really been following your carnivore way for a long time. What's the best diet for late onset MS.. I am 70 yo female
How do you access a phlebotomy blood draw less than 200cc? On google it says blood donations are not less that 500cc.
I eat what you're eating currently. But I am a female. Is this diet good for estrogen and iron levels? I hear a lot about male libido and testorane levels for the men. But I would love to learn what you know, Dr. about the healthy effects of this way of life for females.
Ive heard because of menstruation, iron overload problems on women are much much harder to acure
I've found I do better without fruit and honey and getting a small amount of carbs in the form of milk and yogurt.
I wonder if your iron would have went down and SHGB if you ONLY cut out liver. Plenty of carnivores seem to be fine with occasional organ intake
Wasn't this posted the other day?
Just wanted to point out. My ferritin was never above 70 in the last 7 years, but i still got iron overload, due to my saturation being in the 50% range.
My SHBG was still really high, and i currenlty got it down to 55 after 2 blood donations. Hopefully 1-2 more donations and im done.
Just wanted to say, ideally, try not to go below 100 ferritin, other you might feel horrible mentally and physically as well.
Any update on this?
I would like to know what are the best cookware to use? How do I cook a nice steak while lowering the leaked iron exposure?
Trying to figure this out too, I’ve come to the conclusion the only solution is a vintage glass skillet
I have low shbg, and many problems with TRT, because there's high FT and e2.
Low carb and carnivore diet increase shbg levels, so it's maybe a solution for men's in trt with low shbg?
Absorption of iron from meat is increased because you consume fruits which have got vit C?
I've always skipped breakfast, and decided that probably sends a 'famine signal' to my sex hormones. For circadian reasons, and in an attempt to improve my hormonal profile, I decided to eat sucrose and saturated fat every morning. For about a month, I had Cheerios/Raisin bran with raw honey and whole milk. In addition to my test/free test going up about 20 percent, my libido/performance greatly improved. I assumed it was from milk, but after studying honey, it appears it could have been from the boron.
I wonder if it was from no longer fasting and instead consuming breakfast
@macknumber9 Could be..
I'm going to eat foods with boron to test.
@@AlwaysAudacity Hey! Any updates?
@PeterShev I tried eating raisins and prunes every morning for a few weeks because they have a lot of boron, but I didn't get any results. I was also tanning and using a red light in the nude every other day....I suspect that was what did it. Plan to test that soon.
Hi Doc. What about small fish like sardines , anchovies and so on? Obviously there is a huge difference between these small fish and the big ones. So , what would you say about small fish I mentioned above? I heard from a good source that these fish are safe to eat? And that they do not have heavy metals in them. Thx.
I eat Wild White Anchovies that I order from Wild Planet. Very mild tasting. They are not salty like your traditional Anchovies in salt brine. If you follow Dr. Gundry because of mercury content in larger fish he recommends smaller fish like sardines, anchovies and mackerel. I also buy my Anchovies in water as recommended by Dr. Gundry. He feels even with olive oil or extra virgin you still don’t know the quality of the oil. If you have a Whole Foods nearby you can pick up a can just to try it. Amazon also sells it also. I also eat “Wild” Alaskan Salmon. I have not heard that they are high in mercury. Just make sure it is Wild and not farm raised.
@@daviddad1234 Thanks. I hope to hear more from Dr. Paul himself and his next video should be about the health benefits , & risks if any , of small fish.
@@tadiosbeyene9086 In his previous podcasts he is not a fish person. He does say compared to processed foods or seed oils fish would be better but overall he does not eat fish. Sometimes we have to resource our own studies and see what other physicians have to say. I respect Paul and I have made some dietary changes with his advice but I don’t put all my eggs in one basket over one physician. I listen to several. Information is out there we just have to find it. Got to go I start work in 10 min. Have a safe and happy holidays.
@@daviddad1234 I've heard it from other physicians too. I knew what he said in his previous podcast. That is why I am asking. What Dr. Paul said about fish in general was true. However , I think small fish like sardines , anchovies and so on have another story and that is my point. I believe he has to say something along that line to support his argument. Thanks.
Mackerel is the best to maximise omega 3 and minimise mercury.
IP-6 also good for lowering ferritin.
I’m woman with high SHBG & It sucks! I’ve always been a big meat eater & cooked from iron pans. I have never been able to give blood bcz my iron is either too low or my weight is too low lol. I take compounded hormones. My hormones didn’t get screwed up until I took hormones.
My pharmacist has me taking Aller-Ease DHQ which is a comb of Querctin, stinging nettle root, Bromelain, Rutin, N-Acetyl L, L-cystine & dhydroquerctin. I know for a fact that Querctin is found in pineapples & that’s where they get it for the supplement. I also use a DHT blocking Shampoo & conditioner. Saved my hair!
Hey Paul, or anyone who wants to answer. Do you think you were eating too many organs that caused iron overload? So much iron in organs even compared to muscle meat
Any person that selling be very cautious , it’s your health your gambling. Try a very simple high quality read meat carnivore, sometimes this Doctor complicate way too much just too sell supplements, there’s a rumor lots of lives ruined by this kind of salesmen.
Yes, he was eating bull you know what organs.
It doesn’t sound like a very natural diet when you need to draw blood to get optimal iron levels though?
Because Paul is a fad diet grifter.
Yeah the meat intake is surely too high.
Check out “ Dumping Iron” by P.D. Mangan. It’s a real eye opener.
Are you still doing the phlebotomy?
Google checkiron v1.3 and test for iron accumulation propensity. Hold Ferretin at 100 or below. If it keeps going up quickly it means you have ferretin storgage in your tissues.
Vegan about 10 years very high ferritin but low iron assuming the mrsa infection i got fed on my iron - been meat based almost a year now I’m looking forward to seeing changes - does anybody know if you can sell blood really don’t like the idea of donating and some company selling ☹️
I know of being compensated for blood plasma.
Like Paul said: Competent functional medicine drs and naturopaths who are aware of this information will pull blood and let you have it or just toss it. Unless you mean your intentionally trying to sell it… either way Talk to your dr.
Try people with Vampire bat pets, since you were vegan for 10 years, it could infect some animals, maybe better to donate it to humans.
Have you had your ferritin re-checked? How are you doing now?
So Frank was right again amazing...
Why does lowering iron lead to decreased SHBG?
This is what I'm dying to find out too. I truly hope Paul digs deep on this. This is really fascinating and can help so many guys out. Women too.
Paul, I have hemochromatosis. many consider me an expert in iron related, i dont think that much of myself, I dont like pinning T cypionate because of polycythemia (had 2 strokes), enclomiphene citrate brought my T from 180 to 300ng, keep in mind land mark is 530ng, FSH and LH still good of EC, balls plush, but SHBG has grown a mind of its own
i was taking 10mg of boron, supposedly highly absorbable, and as you cite, boron has other applications from bone density to AV and SA node firing at the heart,
it did NOT reduce shbg,
in the past estradiol E2 would rise together with shgb when pinning t cyp, i would knock it down with anastrazole/arimidex and they would rise and fall together.................now at age 60 a different story E2 at 19.6 (sweet) SHBG at 48 not sweet needs to be 25 and ill probably pick up another 100ng of Total T and an increase in free T if i can get the shbg back in line....
my iron targets for heterozygous hereditary hemochromatosis:
Iron 100
Saturation 25 (currently 39
Ferritin 50-75 (currently at 150)
what is interesting when i give blood phleb, the sat goes down on the iron panel
you stated about ferritin levels and related iron stores....i developed a protocol .... i hope this helps someone, the protocol certainly will, i call it "Shutting the Door" as follows:
keep in mind, exogenous T like t cypionate etc, is an antagonist to hepcidin the master control hormone of iron in the liver, vitamin c is an adaptogen - it increases stores or mobilizes depending on the individuals state........
i would stop injecting T, boost vit C to a gram a day, regular buffered C not plant based, i would give blood phleb at iron serum 150, it knocks down to 100 wait a few days test, 150, bleed, test, bleed, test bleed.....the stores were dumping and being mobilized by the vit C, now at about round 3 or 4, the iron serum no longer rises.........
this is where you want it to be, then i down dose the vit C, start back on the T cyp and reset..... i would do this one or twice a year.....
The question i have for you, the SHBG when you give blood it is still holding to its ratio over volume, WHAT IS THE MECHANISM WITHIN THE PHLEBOTOMY THAT REDUCES THE SHBG?
as mentioned being on EC the E2 is sweet im concerned about tanking it if i phleb.
ill test, pull off 600ml, wait a few days, the adjustments to overall body affect seems to be 48-72 hours after the phleb.......ill test again and post before and after....you were put in my path today for a reason, best to you. thanks for doing the heavy lifting....peace
Carnivore helped my skin and body fat but my libido went away my blood test showed total test 847 but free test 8 and sbgh 89. Starting eating carbs and libido came back and free test went to 18 and sbgh went to 60?
High protein diet is overrated. Your body needs carbs and glucose. Ketones are an emergency coping mechanism. Your body increases cortisol to squeeze glucose out of proteins. When you have elevated cortisol, you have low libido. Nature never had an abundance of animals for people to consume like you are led to believe.
@@AP-ei4jt nature never had am abundance of animal to eat? More animal less population? What do you think we mainly ate 500 years ago? I live in Idaho all that grows is occasional berry some roots mushrooms and lots of animals
No carbs?
@@dongerdong1184 People ate whatever they could get their hands on. You will be amazed how much edible plants and roots are around. Also, population was much smaller then. 500 year is a blip in human evolution. People didn't all evolve in Idaho lol. In fact few did. There is a huge area of the equator and tropics where plant food was never a problem. In fact if you live in the tropics, you don't feel like eating as much animal food. I am surprised Paul is eating that much meat living in Portal Rico.
@@AP-ei4jt yeah I'm surprised also because of where he lives but what I'm saying is most of Europe Canada Australia there isn't any carb food source meat would be important.
@@dongerdong1184 I like meat in colder climate too. Your libido may also have something to do with low nitric oxide which is one of the biggest health crisis in society. Plant is a good source of nitrate which gets converted into nitric oxide with the aid of ascorbic acid, also prevalent in plants. Lack of sun exposure could also have something to do with it.
Does anyone know exactly which test Paul is getting from Labcorp? or is it customized?
Look at function health from Dr Mark Hyman.
Doctor, can you talk about the relationship of hormonal hair loss and SHBG? 🤔🤔🤔
SHBG binds your testosterone. So if you have high SHBG it will make you low T and one of the symptoms of low T is hair loss.
@@Johnny3BatonyWrong.
Iron itself (even when it in the normal range) is the reason why many people can't activate their stemcells and make them migrate from the adipose tissue to the interested tissue we want to increase under hypoxic condition
Total testosterone 920
Free 133
SHBG 66
What do you guys think I'm 56 years old 6 foot tall 220lbs mostly carnivore diet but not perfect with it
Drinking coffee after consuming meat helps inhibit iron absorption, the caffeine that is
But he believes coffee is poison.
Research indicates that donating blood/phlebotomy, lowers red blood cell count, and consequently V02 max, anaerobic threshold, and overall endurance takes a significant hit for at least 4 weeks, and up to months, after a single blood donation. Have you noticed or measured this yourself?
I give blood and this is true. I definitely see my number of reps drop. On pull ups alone I went from 15 range to 6 to 7 a week after donation.
It soon bounces back and the health benefits are worth it. Plus it helps others.
Its not that complicated. Just consume calcium dairy products. Also black and green tea inhibit iron absorption. This is why you should eat a varied balanced diet without imposing limits. If the diet was a great diet this would have never been allowed to happen. Surely one would think of this and be aware of this😅
What about taking copper supplements as it helps the body utilize iron
And prevents it from building up in liver even if blood shows no excess
Thougts on Dr. Ken Berry Saying fruit and honey are dangerous?
Ahhh. A good Ole "bloodletting ". S.N.L. had a good skit with Steve Martin, Theodoric of york
Can we do a long breakdown on hair loss? Are there nutritional approaches? Have you seen people recover hair going Animal based?
Male Pattern hairloss is caused by DHT. Finasteride/Dutasteride are the only effective way to stop further damage. Minoxidil and dermarolling may provide some regrowth depending how much fibrosis of the hair you have already.
Yeah it’s called Propecia and Rogaine. No diet is going to fix your hair.
from what i understand, MPB is not caused by DHT but by your skin tightening around your skull which creates problems and happens for various reasons (mostly genetic, but also due to modern sedentary lifestyle). iirc its like lack of oxygen/nutrients in the cells, which leads to other issues that leads to DHT which made everyone think DHT was causing it.
people have said animal based diet has helped with hair loss, but it's not specific to MPB as far as i know. there is a dr atm researching deep into this stuff, with a free guide on exercises you can do that people have seen amazing results from implementing. i dont have info off the top of my head but google will help you. i believe he also recommends some other stuff re: diet and exercise
I lost most of my hair on top of my head but for a year since I cut out vegetables, grains and eat a kilo of ground beef daily along with 12- 15 eggs daily.most, of it is coming back. I'm 67
@@alxhiding The tension hypothesis albeit good isn’t something we can change. DHT is the mutable variable in the chain. We can’t shrink our skulls
Vitamin c in fruit helps iron absorption
Paul you may not have those hemochromatosis genes that we are aware of but you are certainly loading iron based on your numbers? So could there be more genes we are unaware of??? How come you just now started loading iron?? And not the first years I'd being carnivore?? Maybe the added vitamin c with the iron rich meals???
why you have so high progesteron? 0,3 ng/ml is very high!
I give blood once a year I just figure it’s a fast way to supercharge the body and rid it of stagnation. Sort of like fasting but for your blood
Decreasing SHBG is directly related to higher risk of morbidity. I you are under TRT either you only take one shot per week or increase your testosterone dose
Just checke my blood, my iron is on the higher side of the range. I eat beef every day. I will give some blood soon and see if I feel a difference.
off topic, are young going to ship to EU ?
Don't be silly. Organs are the cheapest meat available in all butchers shops and supermarkets.
@@climate-civilizationswhy not try the supplementation ? My schedule is pretty tight for cooking.
you can use 3rd party shipping. heard from the support service that ppl do that.
@@climate-civilizations 👍..it’s funny how Paul says “I try not to take supplements “ and then says “buy my supplements “..🤔🤭
@@bbsaid218 Stop playing dumb just because you hate wealthy business owners, he said multiple times that fresh organs are always better than supplements. These supplements are for people who can't or won't get their desired nutrients from fresh food. Most people hate the taste of organ meat.
I use IP6 supplement to lower iron.
How do you take it? With food? Without? Morning or night? Do you feel any better? Hope you are doing well!
@@goodgoysandgirls In the morning to the empty morning. Next week I plan to test my ferritin in the lab again to see if it works.
@@OttKaselaan Thank you for responding! I hope you see numbers you're happy with! If you feel like sharing, I'd love to know how things turn out. Thanks for your time.
Why would you not donate blood instead of wasting it?It can help others while helping you...
citrus is low in boron so if thats your only fruit u might be low. honey can be high boron tho
Paul! There's been talk online how many of your problems may infact stem from over consumption of organs. Can you please do an experiment for at least 3 weeks no fruit, supplements and organ meat. Just beef muscle meat and fat. Then do your labs and see how you feel.
Good ole' 20 Mule Tem Borax is an excellent source of borax. Dissolve one teaspoon in one litre of water and use about one teaspoon a day.
I take borax. Super stuff bro
Who is Paul ?
69.5 is still very high SHBG!!
Nikibrah gets his clients sub 20 SHBG, with free test between 40-60ng/dl (off the charts for normal ref ranges!!)!! ALL NATURALLY! That is even better levels that people on 250mg “TRT” usually have 😂
How?
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How??
How ? Who is Nikibrah
SHBG binds your testosterone. So if you have high SHBG it will make you low T and one of the symptoms of low T is hair loss.
Male Pattern Baldness is caused mostly by DHT. DHT is derived from testosterone in tissues via the 5-AR enzyme. Low T = low DHT and less male pattern hairloss.
@@alexhish2187 Yes it is. But SHGB plays a huge role on how you convert it.
Kinda/totally wrong. Hair follicles exposed to Free DHT molecules will miniaturized them. SHBG has a higher binding affinity to DHT, so high SHBG will preserve hair longer.
@@LoveFactorySweatShop thats good to know
Paul, do you plan on making a video addressing your breathing? Do you have asthma/cardiovascular challenges that you’re withholding from the public? For someone who flaunts their health + way of eating, it’s kind of disturbing how hardcore your exhales are after every other sentence.
Have more dairy and eggs, but keep muscle meat in maybe 8oz per day and your iron levels should level out without donations...
You could have donated blood instead of just throwing it out. That sounds very selfish.
I don’t think humans are meant to eat organs everyday. Game would not be available that often and you would probably have to share the organs.
Paleolithic humans only ate meat 2 or 3 times a week. The "Paleo Diet" was invented in the 1970s
Here's an idea, how about other than doing multiple phlebotomies, Boron supplementation and the myriad of other messing about why not eat a balanced Omnivorous diet rather than all this farking around trying to adhere to animal based dogma 🤷♂️
ITS THE FRUIT CAUSING IRON OVERLOAD
Probably, since Vitamin C increases iron storing
Why does he just throw your blood out? I don't see why you don't donate blood.
This seems to be evidence that’s consuming all this heme iron is NOT optimal for hormonal health. If I need to bleed myself in order to practice a high red meat diet while maintaining acceptable SHBG levels, then maybe I need to cut back on the red meat instead of practicing a medieval medicine technique. Just sayin’.
Yeah you actually dont want to go about lowering your shbg.
Bro advocates chronically combining vitamin C and red meat and is shocked is ferritin is high lol
Why donate blood and help others? Just throw it away😂
Doctor Paul, your homocysteine is high because your B12 levels are low.
I never thought I'd say this but I wish we males had periods now too lol
humans don't require daily red meat, this is why
why not?
Outstanding job learning from Elliot Overton's personal experience.
Now please stop poisoning yourself and others with massive doses of (so-called) "vitamin" A (see Grant Genereux's interview on Nutrition with Judy: *"Why Eating Liver May Not Be Good: Unspoken Truths About Vitamin A")* and copper from liver.
I have been taking vitamin A in multiple forms and seeing great improvements. Everyone is different.
What's next, leeches 😅
Jokes aside, you can try drinking black tea with food to reduce iron absorption.
maybe you could try eating no organs for a while
I think this guy spends a little too much time analyzing himself. Doesn’t strike me as well adjusted.
Do you buy beef in bulk,...like 1/4 or 1/2 side of beef?
I'm not giving unvaccinated blood for a 10 dollar gift card lol but good advice.