Hi I’m a quad drummer from the 2022 Bluecoats. I wanted to thank you for talking about that special mindset going into finals week and the “going for it” aspect. It’s beyond ears. Really hard to explain the feeling. But I’m someone who understands it is having the conversation. Loved the video 👊🏽
Thanks so much for commenting! You're right! It's so hard to explain! Everyone has to trust themselves enough to let go and just play, and that's a really hard thing to do! Y'all drummed your asses off, btw. Bravo
As a former marcher, there isn’t enough content discussing the mental aspect of drum corps. Most of the content on RUclips is hyping the performance and what is seen from the stands (myself included) This video right here should be required for all current and future members
Glad to see someone acknowledging the mindset that comes with performing at this level. Even the greats can have bad days, and describing how that can infect the line in a performance setting truly shows your maturity and love for the activity. Hope to see more!
I really do love it, and I wanted to point to and acknowledge something no one talks about. I've been there and I know how difficult it is to finally trust yourself as a player and let go. It becomes a battle of the mind instead of trying to play clean. Such a weird, nuanced topic. Hope I did okay. Lol
You are sooo right! As a vocalist who quite frequently sings solos, I can tell you that one “glaring” mistake can definitely mess with your feelings of competence. However, when you look at it, you are just as able and competent as you were before the mistake. Trying your best without freaking out about how to be perfect is such a mind game.
The funny thing is, it doesn't even have to be a mistake! It can be something that happened earlier, before the show, that put you in a funk. THEN, you make a mistake, and it can sometimes be difficult to recover! The mind is endlessly fascinating to me - and I think it's your fault! 😉
Great content. I look forward to more! I think its always tricky to be critical online but this didn't come off with ill intent cause you explained more about the reality of the arts than only being critical. I want to say, being one of their media personnel in the summer, I know that there was only one vet on the line and he was a quad drummer. The previous lines always had experience on the line and I'm sure you know that makes a difference on all sort of levels.
Holy moly. Only one vet?! That makes a HUGE difference when talking about mind games - especially on their level (didn't they take 2nd in drums?)! Even more props to them. 🤯 Thanks for the support, you guys are doing some great things over there on your channel!
Oh the physiology in marching percussion… it’s such a huge part of the game!! I remember watching SCV in 2014 in Buffalo, NY and the snares were having a bit of a rough go at the start of playing show chunks, and I remember Paul walking up to a certain individual and whispered something to him and kind of gave him a little wink and moved on. From that point on, the line was unreal the rest of the lot! It’s little things like having a bad day or just needing to hear the right thing that can sometimes make or break your night. Great video!
Precisely! I remember one time I was ticking up a storm and he said it was my sticks. Told me his were better, so he gave me his for the rest of rehearsal... The first rep with his sticks was flawless, and he just looked at me, chuckling as though he was watching me react to a magic trick. Lol The brain is funny, and there are probably thousands of stories like that. I'm so delighted that this video is resonating with people.
@@paddric_ryan hahaha yep that sounds about right! It’s amazing what the right instructor and words said, that can complete change everything , of course this can go the opposite way as well ( I had experienced that in my early drum corps years) but luckily had some amazing instructors in my later years that really transformed me as a player. Brett Kuhn and Joe Shuker really opened my eyes and ears to the mentality of being a marching percussionist and I’m thankful for them.
I don't know if bluecoats had a veteran line because of 2021 but literally SCV drumline had 2 people that had marched SCV before (2019). Literally like 90% rookies compared to the 2016-2019 lines that were almost 80% veteran members. The fact that they were achieving that level of excellence is amazing honestly
Yep, I didn't know that until *after* this video was released. These kids are SO so SO good, they were up against A LOT that summer and they should be incredibly proud of what they achieved. You can see it from other videos - this is just a weird moment that IP captured. I spoke with some folks and I have absolutely no doubts that they'll be back with a vengeance. I can't wait.
@Paddric Ryan Gotcha. Also, in a strangely similar fashion, the brass this year seemed to lack the dog in them that they had in them from that same time period 2016-2019. However this is because of the new brass staff I think, I was a member 18-21 with A corps and got a taste of the new staff a little bit before covid closed down the season in 2020. Pretty sure it will take at least a couple more years before it's back to being at that same level as it was
@@thephantasticfool rebuilding can be brutal. I can only imagine how difficult COVID made everything! These kids are hungry, and I know their staff won't let them down!
@@jimmykrutakofficial294 what a phenomenal return. Paul and Sandi knew these kids would be hungry and fed them everything they needed. What a great summer for them!
I really appreciate that you held onto the original video and gave it some more value and context. There's always been content and commentary from people who just want to call out ticks, and I dunno...I've never found that interesting or entertaining-just self-serving. But you took what could have been that, and turned it into some really great insight about the mental game. Younger/less experienced drummers don't tend to fully appreciate that, and they deserve to know that having a bad rep doesn't mean they're bad players. This was great.
Hi there! Current music educator who marched three summers a little over a decade ago. Just wanted to say that I am so glad I bumped into this video. You do an incredible job of explaining what many of us as marching members learn, but can never find the right words to describe. I will happily be adding this video to my list of recommended videos to students!
Thank you so much for the support! I was very torn about making this video. The overwhelmingly positive responses are so reassuring, and I'm incredibly grateful!
Wow great video, man. The performance psychology is so hard to tangibly talk about. This was perfect. Definitely sharing with my students! UNT 2011-15 SCV 2012-15
It really is! I'm glad I decided to try and tackle it. The video seems to be doing well! Thank you for sharing it. I consider myself just as much of a brain teacher as I do a drum teacher. Our own perception of what we're doing can have effects on our sound, and not enough people talk about that.
Really great discussion on the mental game within the game. This stuff isn't talked about enough. I marched open class with 7th Regiment in '12/'13 (snare/quads). The mental infections definitely spread for sure, especially to rookies, for better and for worse. Our whole '12 line (loaded with rookies, including me) fought numerous mental battles that summer, but then returned as vets in '13. I switched from snare to join the 3-man quadline as their 4th. The quad vets I had joined were silent in rehearsal but led by example; they had laser-focus every rep, which had spread to me (trying to emulate their focus). A "good" disease in that case. The snareline in '13 was a different story - basically half-vets/half-rookies, and when someone had a bad day (especially a vet), the rookies succumbed to the disease hard and would start ticking reps all day. It was tough to see, and they definitely heard it all from the staff. Especially the vets got reamed for not setting the example. Feedback to us (quads) from staff was simple: "Keep setting the example, and keep demonstrating what can be achieved. They [snares] will catch on. Don't let off the gas pedal." Ultimately the snares did catch up to us, but it took some time. I think the snare rookies' confidence levels dropped mid-summer when they saw snare vets losing focus in rehearsal in the heat. I'm glad they turned around. Some of those snares were outstanding and went on to march World Class. I aged out that season.
It's endlessly fascinating to me, and that's one of the biggest lessons I learned under Paul and Sandi; your mental state matters a TON. I constantly tell my students that I'm a brain teacher, not a drum teacher. Lol
🤯 I'm so blown away at how much this resonates with people. I mean, I guess it's not that big of a surprise, but still... I'm flabbergasted at the landslide of positive feedback! Thank you!
A very unique video and a fresh take on the state of the marching arts. I always appreciate what SCV brings to the table - I marched during the same era as you and I was hardcore subscribed to the Gusseck approach because it made so much sense to me (and it was so cool to watch). I think a major factor that plays into things nowadays is the simultaneous physical layers of responsibility the members have to be accountable for - and how that can’t accurately be replicated in the lot. Many ensembles do lot drill to recreate the listening environments, which is helpful, but the simultaneous energy demands can’t be replicated. There could be a part of the show where the snares are running at 200 bpm and blasting a triplet roll, and that takes a TON of energy and mental focus. Obviously it’s going to take a different kind of energy and approach when standing still, and I highly doubt ensembles are rehearsing for the lot nearly as much as they are rehearsing for the performance on the field. Couple that with the sheer amount of variety in the physical demands, and the fact that that’s probably one of the biggest lots those members have experienced all season (for some, the biggest of their entire marching career), and there are bound to be small ticky-tacks here and there. Looking forward to more content from this channel. 👍
Oh yes, the activity has changed a ton in the last 20 years. It's funny, I remember certain things in the lot ticking *because* we weren't in the form we were usually in. Standing still made us tick and I just sort of accepted it because what we did on the field was more important. And you're right, I definitely know that Paul isn't rehearsing those kids for the lot. Thanks for the support! I'm regularly on your channel, poking around!
Can't wait for the new season to begin... And your great observations! Deserve more subs, you bring an oral perspective to what many of us are thinking and quite put words to it.
Having played in college and currently at a heavily rebuilding program, the points made apply to all levels. I plan on showing this to my line toward the end of band camp. The mental effort needed to practice at the highest induvidual level is staggering. Thank you for the insights. 🤙
I gotta say, a few people have said that they're showing this (and my other video about how Paul Rennick settled my brain) to their students. These are the highest compliments and I'm so, so grateful. Thank you for the kind words and support!
Dude I subbed like 40 mins ago and you already have 10 more. I'm glad this video seems to be blowing up. You seem like a cool, genuine dude with high quality teaching and content!
Seriously! I've been freaking out the past 24hrs. Yesterday, I was at like 118! Tell all your friends! Let's get me ALL the subs so I can get the f*ck out of this cubicle and make vids all the time! 🤣 In all seriousness, I'm glad you're here, and I hope I can keep making videos that everyone likes!
Loved this video, wish more people talked about the psychological toll this activity takes. To deal with life, the day to day of tour, and then show up and put it all away for the show is incredibly taxing. I marched with SCV last summer and the hornline just left perc alone because we knew the immense pressure on them to be the absolute best and they handled it like pros.
I marched the corps in 19, it was the same. Especially coming off of 18, the pressure was on the whole corps and the hornline perhaps didn't handle it as gracefully as Jonz. But you're right, I'm glad more people are talking about the mental side of tour. You guys were incredible in 22, I was on the sideline crying tears of joy before the horns even played a note on Finals night. I hope you're so proud of yourself.
"A diddle on the dislike button".😂 Sincerely, I liked this analysis a lot. Coming from the Jurassic period of Drum Corps, I'm absolutely speechless at the technical excellence that all these players have to exhibit. Interesting study of the psychology for team play. New sub, old guy.
Love this. Production and all the info you gave was very insightful and you touched on things i didn't realize i thought on a rep to rep basis. You earned a new fan. Keep pushin!
I wish I'd heard this about 5 hours ago! That idea of not letting things in your head affect how you play would've helped me immensely. Especially as reflecting back on it, my snare audition probably would've gone better if my mindset had been better and less clouded.
It takes practice and experience. Just like when you learn to regulate your emotions... The more you do it, the better you get. Especially if you're aware of your thoughts. Be the watcher of your thoughts so you can learn from them. Lol, I know... It sounds crazy. I'm working on ideas for a kind of follow up to this video that talks about cultivating a good mindset.
I marched with the Bluecoats this past summer, and the mindset is a very very underrated principle that gets swept under the rug sometimes. It's not just hearing the notes and playing with your neighbors, it's the feeling of "now" when you're playing that everything feels exactly locked in. The mindset, above all, is absolutely what made me a better musician. Thanks for making this video, I thought it was a breath of fresh air to hear you express your thoughts!
What's going through our brains is absolutely crucial to be able to achieve at such a high level. Glad you enjoyed it. I certainly enjoyed seeing you guys last year!
The RUclips algorithm randomly put this video in my recommended list and I'm so glad that it did. Wow is this quality content! I've been out of the game for a little while now (aged out in 2012), but you pulled me right back into what the kids these days might call the "vibes" aspect of DCI/WGI (and drumming more broadly). I think you completely nailed it with your really thoughtful analysis and insights. Can't believe you don't have more views (and hope that changes soon!).
Thank you so much! I was literally just washing dishes, thinking about how much all my 250 subs mean to me! Welcome aboard, Corey. I'm glad you're here!
@@paddric_ryan Glassmen, Crossmen, and Madison Scouts (+ a year at Hawthorne Caballeros!) for outdoor, Eastside Fury and NorthCoast Academy for indoor. Lots of great memories.
This is is by far the most accurate and well thought out video on the topic of world class “vibes” as it were. Your descriptions are INCREDIBLY accurate.
This show concept is also just super hard, I know this is just the line here, but the concept is finding nirvana, it’s the anti hype show, about finding that inner peace, very specifically not going hard in the paint, so that restraint that whole show just feels like it would be so hard to execute, and though the book flows, it doesn’t feel like it ever fully arrives, which is not to take away from Paul’s writing either, he successfully conveyed the show concept it’s just hard
I marched the corps in 2019, but in the hornline. One thing I notice is that the affective aspect of the performance is a lot more subdued on the percussion side. We were encouraged to put in every ounce of big, overdrawn performance energy we had in us, but it's a lot more subtle on the drumline side. It's taken me a few years of teaching to be able to see it because Jonz always seemed so calm and put together to me. I appreciate you talking about the mental aspect because especially in a group like SCV, at least in my own experience, it's something we were encouraged to just flat out ignore. If you had a good day, perform. If you had a bad day, perform. If your tour crush turned you down, perform. If you're sick, perform. If you're hurting, perform. If you're tired, perform. If you're angry, perform. Not in so many words, but we were encouraged not to hold space for what kind of day anyone was having, and that's something I really don't want to pass on to my own students.
Paul and Sandi Rennick are masters at reading their players and guiding them through the season - I know from personal experience. It's truly one of the main reasons the players are so loyal to them. The "easy" answer is to try and tamp daily stressors down and just perform. The educator's job is to know their players well enough to create the space to overcome and sometimes teach them the tools. I got to speak with a few key people related to this video and man, they had a large emotional mountain to climb that day. I can't wait to see them next summer - I guarantee they're all stronger and have learned a lot. It's going to be fantastic!
As someone who has been very involved with the marching arts but studies music with a very orchestral approach, I absolutely loved this video. This discussion about the mindset that goes on during some performances and how they differ has not been talked a lot too much in my experience and hearing this really helped me to mentally bridge the gap between my orchestral playing along with the my playing while in the marching arts and relating the obstacles that I face in both settings. I cannot thank you enough!
This is something the world needs more of right now. as the activity becomes larger on social media there's a lot more good but also a lot more bad. People in the comments bashing on a line for a bad attack, differing technique, whatever. Its hard for even myself, especially when it comes to groups that i play in or teach, to step away from the critic brain and just appreciate that all these groups at the end of the day are a bunch of young people pushing themselves to be better musicians. If you truly love the music then the beauty in that should outshine any tick or break. at least, thats what i think.
10000000000000% agree!!! That's the whole point!! It's monumentally difficult to be a part of the activity - especially nowadays. I was literally messaging someone yesterday about how I feel really fortunate that RUclips wasn't much of a thing when I marched. I can only imagine the mental gymnastics needed to get through a summer with how much more exposed these kids are. Every single tick is up for scrutiny. I just wanted to remind everyone of... well. . . you said it perfectly: "....appreciate that all these groups at the end of the day are a bunch of young people pushing themselves to be better musicians." Beautiful. I'm so so SO grateful that ALL of the comments on this video are positive. I hope that means I did something right.
@paddic_ryan I’m getting a ton of new students in my line this year and we’re never taught the basics in middle school. Covid really hurt with online band for younger students. What you are talking about here, can be used at all levels. Really glad I found your channel.
@@danielgalyean6508 oh man. COVID really messed with a lot of programs. There's a delicate balance between cultivating the technique and cultivating the way they think. I have another video that seems to be resonating with teachers. It's the one about how Paul Rennick settled my brain. Good luck this year and don't forget to teach them the joy of playing clean!
its so interesting to hear you talking about the struggle at 19:50 or something like that, especially after have marching this past 2023 season. i understand what it feels like to be pushing through a performance.
It always blew my mind how we spend so much time thinking about how to hit the drum to only get to the point where we have to just let go and trust. THEN start to manage our thoughts. I wish more people knew just how difficult the activity actually is.
You guys.... After you watch my video, here's an absolutely killer run by the 2022 Vanguard Drumline. Go watch it and give them some LOVE! ruclips.net/video/ssfbf5vg614/видео.html
I was lucky enough to get 2018 Vanguard bass 3 Mr Koch as my percussion instructor along with center snare Mr Gardener to tech and confidence was one of the biggest things they taught us
4:57 EXACTLY! When I take lot footage I usually pick a section and stay there or move very little. The idea that you need to pan around and get everyone really does not do much for the viewer and def makes transcriptions more difficult.
@@paddric_ryan That as well! LOL. I go to Indy every year and film. I found a fun Air BnB about 3 blocks from Military park. Easy to roll down with the camera setup. Might need to bring 2 cameras this year. 🎵
I would love to see your reactions/thoughts to the BAC drumline from this past year. One of the more consistently clean drumlines playing fairly hard passages I’ve heard in a while. Loved this video and your standpoint on this line!
Dude your videos are such high quality, if you made more videos restricting to various DCI things I garnered it would be very good, just see if you can get rid of the buzz when you’re talking and it would be perfect.
Yeah, that buzz drove me nuts when editing this one! Thanks for struggling through the buzz with me. 🤣 You're right, talking about DCI stuff seems to be a big hit. Any ideas for other topics?
Hey Paddric, Colts 1994 snare line Age out here, I see what you see, SCV is always an incredible line, what went on with the line that day I have no clue but it was painful to watch. Totally not the normal SCV line I know. We had a kid in our line that had marched for years, he was like a 2nd year member when I was a rook in 1991, we knew he was home sick, didn't want to march that year but his low energy drug all 8 of us down all Corn Field and Midwest tours. Soon as he quit and left, our energy went through the roof the rest of the season man. I'm willing to bet that's close to what was going on.
It's a topic close to my heart. I had some battles to deal with when I matched, and I know that the mental game is crucial to success in the activity. I just wanted to shine a light on how hard these kids work - down to their souls. Thanks for sharing your story. I'm delighted that this video resonates with so many people!
Yep. They're a really good line, just something got into their heads for this lot. It's hard to shake something like that. Hopefully they were able to crank up the energy for the actual show.
Yeah I will say the energy given off them was almost nothing compared to bluecoats in the lot. I was expecting so much more from them, not saying they're bad, but I completely agree with what you're saying. I also feel like Bryce brought a lot to the table for SCV.
Yep, something spooked them. We all know they're better; this was just a weird night. And apparently there's only one vet in the whole battery! Performance anxiety will catch up to the best of us... Can't wait to see what they do when they return!
I played both baritone and one- half- a year- played snare, then went back to baritone for my age out. This wasn't the stone age, but I guess you could call it the bronze age of the activity. One might think that playing drums is more physical, but it's really the brass instrument, putting as much air as possible through a horn, while holding it up in front of your face not being able to see directly in front of you and having to look around it unless it's down or doing something with it, while marching and running for 10 minutes, that is the greater physical demand. While percussion is the head game, trying to make perfect sounds which only last 500ths of a second or whatever. But you can see in front of you, and you can breathe. There are plenty of reasons I didn't make it as a percussionist- mainly that I was going hungry, everyone thought someone was feeding me and no one was, I had $40 in my pocket the whole summer, I wasn't afraid of the caption head but the snare tech was a guy with a skull-like face who was constantly on my ass, and ADHD and drumming are a bad mix. In a larger corps, I'd simply be cut. We also had a drug (ephedrin) problem in the horn line, nothing I was doing but a girl OD'ed and threw up on my sleeping bag- and a bus accident, where a driver had a heart attack and I watched the bus in front of us- thought it was going to pull over but it instead rolled off a hill and out of view. We were not allowed to get off the bus, and had to sit there wondering if they were OK. I can't remember if the drug problem or the bus accident happened first. All that paled in comparison to feeling like I could zone out at any moment and screw up the line. Knowing I was leaving, my final show DCM I played as if not a care and the skullface guy came up to shake my hand. I left with my good friend who was at the show, without telling anyone.
I love that you appreciate the different challenges each section face. Not a lot of people have that perspective - especially these days! Thank you for sharing, sounds like you've got some insane stories!
@@paddric_ryan of course. I'm always hoping for perfection and therefore I yell out when I hear a mistake. This is high level as SCV has always been, but yes I hear what you're hearing and saying "Come On!!" 😃 They're better than this and perhaps the psychology of shaking off one mistake became a challenge. 2 choices as I see it: play immediately after a "heard mistake" as if it Never happened, or stay stuck in frustration and then your concentration may contribute suddenly More mistakes!! I experienced the goosebumps in Finals '84 because our book was so well learned and our clarity was like listening in stereo especially in roll sequences with cleanliness all around!! SCV has always been my favorite drumline. They make other drumlines better because of the bar they set!! A memory: our drumline (Crossmen) jammed with Vanguard's drumline after a California show in '83!!! My rookie year - I was in DCI drumline heaven!!! I had Fred Sanford drum on my drum and all the snares in '84 as he stopped by a few times apparently at Mark Thurston's request and worked with us as well!!! My ears are Always listening so carefully. Honestly my wife wishes I would enjoy more of the overall show when we're at a competition, but hey, once a drummer always a drummer!! I am usually always staring at the drumline! 😃 I tip my hat to Blue Coats, they're right there with SCV!! I think it's going to be a fun year. For those of us who usually don't see as much until near finals (I'll be at the Salem VA show) start finding RUclips videos and begin finding the best drumlines just from careful listening but realizing improvements Do come as the season progresses either from hosing difficult book spots vs. good old determination and grit to master tough spots!!
I could never play at that level. All I hear is perfection. However, I appreciate your level and explaining it. 11:13 I get it though, with any team oriented deal. It's the razor edge where the heart lies. It's the moment when all the practice pays off. It's really intimate, like a good racing pitstop, or perfect play in a game. When it's there it's there, and you couldn't mess up even if you wanted to. It's perfect. Perfect meaning nothing can be improved. Perfect. I can't nuance this but as a performer I know that fleeting feeling. It's incredible. It
But you CAN play at that level; I truly believe that everyone can... The trick is for everyone else to ALSO play at that level at the SAME time. It's absolute magic.
Me haha, I appreciate the ego boost. Haha. Like, I can ride a skateboard but I'll never be a Tony Hawk or Shaun White. Lol, I appreciate it though. My 6 stroke rolls sound like a smashed hexagon. (Id probably make you vomit) But I get what you are saying. We all CAN. Really good video on a tough subject. Good "lesson" teach. Very well done video 10/10.
Mismanagement at the corps strikes again. Certainly they were young, but entirely capable of slaying this book. Throughout our history, it's been the adults that tether the members. So glad you spoke to infectious mindset here, as even Rennick couldn't protect them from that. That said, please consider going old school and giving the 04 line an analysis. Dem slurrtas be on fire. Rode the drum bus that year and got to hear them practicing non stop. Lucky me. 😊
Paul and Sandi do a lot for the kids as far as mindset goes. They are fully aware of every decision and how it affects the players, and they are masters at it. But yeah, there are some things that are just plain out of their control. I was in the snareline at Phantom Regiment in 2004 and man oh man SCV was good that year. I absolutely love that show! One of my favorites of all time.
Really interesting watch for me because I can feel like the vibe is off but I'm not a percussionist and I think everything sounds fantastic and can't identify any dirt 😅 but the message is great
Number one thing the Hebron director gave us as a band was our motto. All In All The Time. Practice how you’ll play and leave it all on the field and great things will come from it
Not a drum corps level performer (hopefully in the next couple years though), but a former tech I had once told me that marching percussion is 80% mental and I honestly totally cannot blame anyone on the SCV line. A bad day can fuck up an entire performance, the fact that the fuzz can only really be nitpicked out is impressive enough on it’s own. Massive coats fanboy but I wouldn’t be unhappy if SCV came back in 2024 with a Sanford
Yes! I've fortunately been able to speak with a few people from this group, and took the opportunity to remind them that they had SUCH a good summer and they should be proud of what they achieved! I have absolutely no doubts that they'll be coming back stronger than ever, and I can't wait!
Here’s the think SCV had Cameron Cavender and Bryce Hall the past couple years, the in line leadership isn't there without them just yet, knowing Bryce and Cameron they would touch on a lot of these things, and have pushed for a higher level of energy.
@@MateoBacolor-ir1jf yep! @MarchingVlogs was just saying that everyone but one quad drummer was new to the group. And yeah, pretty typical that Paul's lines have a ton of UNT people. We were doing drumline camps in Denton back when Paul was at Crown! Oh man, I'm old lol
Ok, So it wasnt only me. It felt like a group that had amazing music but the emotion was just gone. I don't know what happened but It just didn't feel like a SCV line. The skill was there but emotion wasnt.
@@paddric_ryan Exactly. Its sad that it transferred over to competition. Was really looking forward to seeing Vanguard 5-peat the caption. They will come back stronger than ever 2024.
SCV 2022 bass drum line was amazing. I’m gonna miss SCV in 2023. They’ve been one of my all-time favorites since my drum corps days in the 1970s- 1980s.
🤣🤣🤣 that's a variation on something one of my favorite RUclipsrs used to say in his videos.. Thanks for sticking around to the end! That helps the algorithm more than a lot of things!
@@camilleon352 thanks! I wanted to bring something not so common to drum videos. Drumbeats Online does some cool editing. Although, I think he has a team... I'm just. . . Me lol
Hi I’m a quad drummer from the 2022 Bluecoats. I wanted to thank you for talking about that special mindset going into finals week and the “going for it” aspect. It’s beyond ears. Really hard to explain the feeling. But I’m someone who understands it is having the conversation. Loved the video 👊🏽
Thanks so much for commenting! You're right! It's so hard to explain! Everyone has to trust themselves enough to let go and just play, and that's a really hard thing to do! Y'all drummed your asses off, btw. Bravo
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As a former marcher, there isn’t enough content discussing the mental aspect of drum corps.
Most of the content on RUclips is hyping the performance and what is seen from the stands (myself included)
This video right here should be required for all current and future members
I'm so impressed with the tidal wave of positivity that this video has brought! Thank you so much!
Glad to see someone acknowledging the mindset that comes with performing at this level. Even the greats can have bad days, and describing how that can infect the line in a performance setting truly shows your maturity and love for the activity. Hope to see more!
I really do love it, and I wanted to point to and acknowledge something no one talks about. I've been there and I know how difficult it is to finally trust yourself as a player and let go. It becomes a battle of the mind instead of trying to play clean. Such a weird, nuanced topic. Hope I did okay. Lol
You are sooo right! As a vocalist who quite frequently sings solos, I can tell you that one “glaring” mistake can definitely mess with your feelings of competence. However, when you look at it, you are just as able and competent as you were before the mistake. Trying your best without freaking out about how to be perfect is such a mind game.
The funny thing is, it doesn't even have to be a mistake! It can be something that happened earlier, before the show, that put you in a funk. THEN, you make a mistake, and it can sometimes be difficult to recover! The mind is endlessly fascinating to me - and I think it's your fault! 😉
@@paddric_ryan Oops. Yep. I guess it could be my fault that you are very interested on what makes people do what they do! 😎 ❤️
Great content. I look forward to more! I think its always tricky to be critical online but this didn't come off with ill intent cause you explained more about the reality of the arts than only being critical. I want to say, being one of their media personnel in the summer, I know that there was only one vet on the line and he was a quad drummer. The previous lines always had experience on the line and I'm sure you know that makes a difference on all sort of levels.
Holy moly. Only one vet?! That makes a HUGE difference when talking about mind games - especially on their level (didn't they take 2nd in drums?)! Even more props to them. 🤯 Thanks for the support, you guys are doing some great things over there on your channel!
@@paddric_ryan Yeah, it's almost like their inconsistency as performers is due primarily to a lack of experience.
@@scottyt5918 definitely makes me see it in a new light!
Oh the physiology in marching percussion… it’s such a huge part of the game!!
I remember watching SCV in 2014 in Buffalo, NY and the snares were having a bit of a rough go at the start of playing show chunks, and I remember Paul walking up to a certain individual and whispered something to him and kind of gave him a little wink and moved on. From that point on, the line was unreal the rest of the lot! It’s little things like having a bad day or just needing to hear the right thing that can sometimes make or break your night. Great video!
Precisely! I remember one time I was ticking up a storm and he said it was my sticks. Told me his were better, so he gave me his for the rest of rehearsal... The first rep with his sticks was flawless, and he just looked at me, chuckling as though he was watching me react to a magic trick. Lol
The brain is funny, and there are probably thousands of stories like that. I'm so delighted that this video is resonating with people.
@@paddric_ryan hahaha yep that sounds about right! It’s amazing what the right instructor and words said, that can complete change everything , of course this can go the opposite way as well ( I had experienced that in my early drum corps years) but luckily had some amazing instructors in my later years that really transformed me as a player. Brett Kuhn and Joe Shuker really opened my eyes and ears to the mentality of being a marching percussionist and I’m thankful for them.
I don't know if bluecoats had a veteran line because of 2021 but literally SCV drumline had 2 people that had marched SCV before (2019). Literally like 90% rookies compared to the 2016-2019 lines that were almost 80% veteran members. The fact that they were achieving that level of excellence is amazing honestly
Yep, I didn't know that until *after* this video was released. These kids are SO so SO good, they were up against A LOT that summer and they should be incredibly proud of what they achieved. You can see it from other videos - this is just a weird moment that IP captured. I spoke with some folks and I have absolutely no doubts that they'll be back with a vengeance. I can't wait.
@Paddric Ryan Gotcha. Also, in a strangely similar fashion, the brass this year seemed to lack the dog in them that they had in them from that same time period 2016-2019. However this is because of the new brass staff I think, I was a member 18-21 with A corps and got a taste of the new staff a little bit before covid closed down the season in 2020. Pretty sure it will take at least a couple more years before it's back to being at that same level as it was
@@thephantasticfool rebuilding can be brutal. I can only imagine how difficult COVID made everything! These kids are hungry, and I know their staff won't let them down!
@@paddric_ryanthey certainly did
@@jimmykrutakofficial294 what a phenomenal return. Paul and Sandi knew these kids would be hungry and fed them everything they needed. What a great summer for them!
I really appreciate that you held onto the original video and gave it some more value and context. There's always been content and commentary from people who just want to call out ticks, and I dunno...I've never found that interesting or entertaining-just self-serving. But you took what could have been that, and turned it into some really great insight about the mental game. Younger/less experienced drummers don't tend to fully appreciate that, and they deserve to know that having a bad rep doesn't mean they're bad players. This was great.
Precisely!
Hi there! Current music educator who marched three summers a little over a decade ago. Just wanted to say that I am so glad I bumped into this video. You do an incredible job of explaining what many of us as marching members learn, but can never find the right words to describe. I will happily be adding this video to my list of recommended videos to students!
Thank you so much for the support! I was very torn about making this video. The overwhelmingly positive responses are so reassuring, and I'm incredibly grateful!
Wow great video, man. The performance psychology is so hard to tangibly talk about. This was perfect. Definitely sharing with my students!
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It really is! I'm glad I decided to try and tackle it. The video seems to be doing well! Thank you for sharing it. I consider myself just as much of a brain teacher as I do a drum teacher. Our own perception of what we're doing can have effects on our sound, and not enough people talk about that.
Really great discussion on the mental game within the game. This stuff isn't talked about enough. I marched open class with 7th Regiment in '12/'13 (snare/quads). The mental infections definitely spread for sure, especially to rookies, for better and for worse. Our whole '12 line (loaded with rookies, including me) fought numerous mental battles that summer, but then returned as vets in '13.
I switched from snare to join the 3-man quadline as their 4th. The quad vets I had joined were silent in rehearsal but led by example; they had laser-focus every rep, which had spread to me (trying to emulate their focus). A "good" disease in that case.
The snareline in '13 was a different story - basically half-vets/half-rookies, and when someone had a bad day (especially a vet), the rookies succumbed to the disease hard and would start ticking reps all day. It was tough to see, and they definitely heard it all from the staff. Especially the vets got reamed for not setting the example.
Feedback to us (quads) from staff was simple: "Keep setting the example, and keep demonstrating what can be achieved. They [snares] will catch on. Don't let off the gas pedal." Ultimately the snares did catch up to us, but it took some time. I think the snare rookies' confidence levels dropped mid-summer when they saw snare vets losing focus in rehearsal in the heat. I'm glad they turned around. Some of those snares were outstanding and went on to march World Class. I aged out that season.
It's endlessly fascinating to me, and that's one of the biggest lessons I learned under Paul and Sandi; your mental state matters a TON. I constantly tell my students that I'm a brain teacher, not a drum teacher. Lol
This is probably the most important video made in DCI History.
🤯 I'm so blown away at how much this resonates with people. I mean, I guess it's not that big of a surprise, but still... I'm flabbergasted at the landslide of positive feedback! Thank you!
A very unique video and a fresh take on the state of the marching arts. I always appreciate what SCV brings to the table - I marched during the same era as you and I was hardcore subscribed to the Gusseck approach because it made so much sense to me (and it was so cool to watch).
I think a major factor that plays into things nowadays is the simultaneous physical layers of responsibility the members have to be accountable for - and how that can’t accurately be replicated in the lot. Many ensembles do lot drill to recreate the listening environments, which is helpful, but the simultaneous energy demands can’t be replicated. There could be a part of the show where the snares are running at 200 bpm and blasting a triplet roll, and that takes a TON of energy and mental focus. Obviously it’s going to take a different kind of energy and approach when standing still, and I highly doubt ensembles are rehearsing for the lot nearly as much as they are rehearsing for the performance on the field. Couple that with the sheer amount of variety in the physical demands, and the fact that that’s probably one of the biggest lots those members have experienced all season (for some, the biggest of their entire marching career), and there are bound to be small ticky-tacks here and there.
Looking forward to more content from this channel. 👍
Oh yes, the activity has changed a ton in the last 20 years. It's funny, I remember certain things in the lot ticking *because* we weren't in the form we were usually in. Standing still made us tick and I just sort of accepted it because what we did on the field was more important. And you're right, I definitely know that Paul isn't rehearsing those kids for the lot.
Thanks for the support! I'm regularly on your channel, poking around!
Can't wait for the new season to begin...
And your great observations!
Deserve more subs, you bring an oral perspective to what many of us are thinking and quite put words to it.
Thank you so much! There have been some interesting show announcements so far - can't wait!
@@paddric_ryan agreed! Starting with no SCV, very sad and the BD announcing show theme. Totally confused on that one but let's see!
@@thomashelm6931 lol, exactly! That BD one seems.... Well, we'll see. 🤣
@@paddric_ryan diddles and spandex? 😯
@@thomashelm6931 who knows!
Having played in college and currently at a heavily rebuilding program, the points made apply to all levels. I plan on showing this to my line toward the end of band camp. The mental effort needed to practice at the highest induvidual level is staggering. Thank you for the insights. 🤙
I gotta say, a few people have said that they're showing this (and my other video about how Paul Rennick settled my brain) to their students. These are the highest compliments and I'm so, so grateful. Thank you for the kind words and support!
Dude I subbed like 40 mins ago and you already have 10 more. I'm glad this video seems to be blowing up. You seem like a cool, genuine dude with high quality teaching and content!
Seriously! I've been freaking out the past 24hrs. Yesterday, I was at like 118! Tell all your friends! Let's get me ALL the subs so I can get the f*ck out of this cubicle and make vids all the time! 🤣 In all seriousness, I'm glad you're here, and I hope I can keep making videos that everyone likes!
@@paddric_ryan I have told my drummer friends to watch and sun to you I can’t wait till you reach every end of the music industry!
I can watch this kind of video all day man. This was so entertaining and gave me a new perspective on how i look at lot vids now. Good stuff!
Excellent! Now, get out there and spread some empathy and compassion!!
Loved this video, wish more people talked about the psychological toll this activity takes. To deal with life, the day to day of tour, and then show up and put it all away for the show is incredibly taxing. I marched with SCV last summer and the hornline just left perc alone because we knew the immense pressure on them to be the absolute best and they handled it like pros.
They really did have a huge amount of pressure, and I agree - such pros!
I marched the corps in 19, it was the same. Especially coming off of 18, the pressure was on the whole corps and the hornline perhaps didn't handle it as gracefully as Jonz. But you're right, I'm glad more people are talking about the mental side of tour.
You guys were incredible in 22, I was on the sideline crying tears of joy before the horns even played a note on Finals night. I hope you're so proud of yourself.
"A diddle on the dislike button".😂
Sincerely, I liked this analysis a lot.
Coming from the Jurassic period of Drum Corps, I'm absolutely speechless at the technical excellence that all these players have to exhibit. Interesting study of the psychology for team play.
New sub, old guy.
Oh yes, it's insane what they're up against these days! Thanks for the sub, I'm glad you're here!
Love this.
Production and all the info you gave was very insightful and you touched on things i didn't realize i thought on a rep to rep basis. You earned a new fan. Keep pushin!
Thank you so much! I often tell my students that I'm not a drum teacher; I'm a brain teacher!
I wish I'd heard this about 5 hours ago! That idea of not letting things in your head affect how you play would've helped me immensely. Especially as reflecting back on it, my snare audition probably would've gone better if my mindset had been better and less clouded.
It takes practice and experience. Just like when you learn to regulate your emotions... The more you do it, the better you get. Especially if you're aware of your thoughts. Be the watcher of your thoughts so you can learn from them.
Lol, I know... It sounds crazy. I'm working on ideas for a kind of follow up to this video that talks about cultivating a good mindset.
I marched with the Bluecoats this past summer, and the mindset is a very very underrated principle that gets swept under the rug sometimes. It's not just hearing the notes and playing with your neighbors, it's the feeling of "now" when you're playing that everything feels exactly locked in. The mindset, above all, is absolutely what made me a better musician. Thanks for making this video, I thought it was a breath of fresh air to hear you express your thoughts!
What's going through our brains is absolutely crucial to be able to achieve at such a high level. Glad you enjoyed it. I certainly enjoyed seeing you guys last year!
The RUclips algorithm randomly put this video in my recommended list and I'm so glad that it did. Wow is this quality content! I've been out of the game for a little while now (aged out in 2012), but you pulled me right back into what the kids these days might call the "vibes" aspect of DCI/WGI (and drumming more broadly). I think you completely nailed it with your really thoughtful analysis and insights. Can't believe you don't have more views (and hope that changes soon!).
Thank you so much! I was literally just washing dishes, thinking about how much all my 250 subs mean to me! Welcome aboard, Corey. I'm glad you're here!
Also, who'd you march with!?
@@paddric_ryan Love it. And here to stay!
@@paddric_ryan Glassmen, Crossmen, and Madison Scouts (+ a year at Hawthorne Caballeros!) for outdoor, Eastside Fury and NorthCoast Academy for indoor. Lots of great memories.
@@coreybroschak6387 siiiiick! Those are some great organizations!
This is is by far the most accurate and well thought out video on the topic of world class “vibes” as it were. Your descriptions are INCREDIBLY accurate.
Thank you! I sincerely appreciate it! I'm relieved that the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive.
This show concept is also just super hard, I know this is just the line here, but the concept is finding nirvana, it’s the anti hype show, about finding that inner peace, very specifically not going hard in the paint, so that restraint that whole show just feels like it would be so hard to execute, and though the book flows, it doesn’t feel like it ever fully arrives, which is not to take away from Paul’s writing either, he successfully conveyed the show concept it’s just hard
Oooooh, that's a really good observation! I hadn't thought of that!
@@paddric_ryan sometimes as drummers we miss the forest because our trees are just so cool
@@captainkiwi77 🤣
I marched the corps in 2019, but in the hornline. One thing I notice is that the affective aspect of the performance is a lot more subdued on the percussion side. We were encouraged to put in every ounce of big, overdrawn performance energy we had in us, but it's a lot more subtle on the drumline side. It's taken me a few years of teaching to be able to see it because Jonz always seemed so calm and put together to me.
I appreciate you talking about the mental aspect because especially in a group like SCV, at least in my own experience, it's something we were encouraged to just flat out ignore. If you had a good day, perform. If you had a bad day, perform. If your tour crush turned you down, perform. If you're sick, perform. If you're hurting, perform. If you're tired, perform. If you're angry, perform. Not in so many words, but we were encouraged not to hold space for what kind of day anyone was having, and that's something I really don't want to pass on to my own students.
Paul and Sandi Rennick are masters at reading their players and guiding them through the season - I know from personal experience. It's truly one of the main reasons the players are so loyal to them. The "easy" answer is to try and tamp daily stressors down and just perform. The educator's job is to know their players well enough to create the space to overcome and sometimes teach them the tools. I got to speak with a few key people related to this video and man, they had a large emotional mountain to climb that day. I can't wait to see them next summer - I guarantee they're all stronger and have learned a lot. It's going to be fantastic!
@@paddric_ryan Me too, I'm excited to see them back!
As someone who has been very involved with the marching arts but studies music with a very orchestral approach, I absolutely loved this video. This discussion about the mindset that goes on during some performances and how they differ has not been talked a lot too much in my experience and hearing this really helped me to mentally bridge the gap between my orchestral playing along with the my playing while in the marching arts and relating the obstacles that I face in both settings. I cannot thank you enough!
You'll notice that I'm big on mindset. Practicing, teaching, performing... Everything hinges on what's floating around in our brains! 🧠🤓
This is something the world needs more of right now. as the activity becomes larger on social media there's a lot more good but also a lot more bad. People in the comments bashing on a line for a bad attack, differing technique, whatever. Its hard for even myself, especially when it comes to groups that i play in or teach, to step away from the critic brain and just appreciate that all these groups at the end of the day are a bunch of young people pushing themselves to be better musicians. If you truly love the music then the beauty in that should outshine any tick or break. at least, thats what i think.
10000000000000% agree!!! That's the whole point!! It's monumentally difficult to be a part of the activity - especially nowadays. I was literally messaging someone yesterday about how I feel really fortunate that RUclips wasn't much of a thing when I marched. I can only imagine the mental gymnastics needed to get through a summer with how much more exposed these kids are. Every single tick is up for scrutiny. I just wanted to remind everyone of... well. . . you said it perfectly: "....appreciate that all these groups at the end of the day are a bunch of young people pushing themselves to be better musicians." Beautiful.
I'm so so SO grateful that ALL of the comments on this video are positive. I hope that means I did something right.
you are doing so freaking well!!! so proud of you! great videos 🎉
Yay! Thank you! 🥰
Just found this, great video. As an educator, this really spoke to me.
Awesome! Thanks for the support! I'm glad you're here!
@paddic_ryan I’m getting a ton of new students in my line this year and we’re never taught the basics in middle school. Covid really hurt with online band for younger students. What you are talking about here, can be used at all levels. Really glad I found your channel.
@@danielgalyean6508 oh man. COVID really messed with a lot of programs. There's a delicate balance between cultivating the technique and cultivating the way they think. I have another video that seems to be resonating with teachers. It's the one about how Paul Rennick settled my brain. Good luck this year and don't forget to teach them the joy of playing clean!
its so interesting to hear you talking about the struggle at 19:50 or something like that, especially after have marching this past 2023 season. i understand what it feels like to be pushing through a performance.
It always blew my mind how we spend so much time thinking about how to hit the drum to only get to the point where we have to just let go and trust. THEN start to manage our thoughts. I wish more people knew just how difficult the activity actually is.
Please make more content. I really enjoy it.
Believe me, it's all I want to do! Thank you so much for your support!
Glad SCV is coming out again next season. They were sorely missed.
Oh I know... They're gonna be HUNGRY. I can't wait!
You guys.... After you watch my video, here's an absolutely killer run by the 2022 Vanguard Drumline. Go watch it and give them some LOVE! ruclips.net/video/ssfbf5vg614/видео.html
They were GREAT! Wow.
This high quality content, love to see it. Looking forward to more!
Thanks! I'm glad you're here!
I was lucky enough to get 2018 Vanguard bass 3 Mr Koch as my percussion instructor along with center snare Mr Gardener to tech and confidence was one of the biggest things they taught us
It really counts for more than people think, and it takes practice to fully wield that power!
4:57 EXACTLY! When I take lot footage I usually pick a section and stay there or move very little. The idea that you need to pan around and get everyone really does not do much for the viewer and def makes transcriptions more difficult.
YES. Or, even better - set up two cameras!
@@paddric_ryan That as well! LOL. I go to Indy every year and film. I found a fun Air BnB about 3 blocks from Military park. Easy to roll down with the camera setup. Might need to bring 2 cameras this year. 🎵
Yessssss! That sounds awesome! Easy peasy. Beefy tripod with an extra camera mount. Probably have them both record audio, juuuuuuuust in case. Lol
I would love to see your reactions/thoughts to the BAC drumline from this past year. One of the more consistently clean drumlines playing fairly hard passages I’ve heard in a while. Loved this video and your standpoint on this line!
Oh yeah, they were really good! I'll add it to my list and we'll see. Thanks for commenting. I'm having a blast interacting with everyone!
Dude your videos are such high quality, if you made more videos restricting to various DCI things I garnered it would be very good, just see if you can get rid of the buzz when you’re talking and it would be perfect.
Yeah, that buzz drove me nuts when editing this one! Thanks for struggling through the buzz with me. 🤣 You're right, talking about DCI stuff seems to be a big hit. Any ideas for other topics?
Hey Paddric, Colts 1994 snare line Age out here, I see what you see, SCV is always an incredible line, what went on with the line that day I have no clue but it was painful to watch. Totally not the normal SCV line I know. We had a kid in our line that had marched for years, he was like a 2nd year member when I was a rook in 1991, we knew he was home sick, didn't want to march that year but his low energy drug all 8 of us down all Corn Field and Midwest tours. Soon as he quit and left, our energy went through the roof the rest of the season man. I'm willing to bet that's close to what was going on.
It's a topic close to my heart. I had some battles to deal with when I matched, and I know that the mental game is crucial to success in the activity. I just wanted to shine a light on how hard these kids work - down to their souls. Thanks for sharing your story. I'm delighted that this video resonates with so many people!
Bro. That want you to see transition was just… ahhh wow. ❤❤❤
Good catch!!! I definitely heard that and for sure nudged it to line up as good as it could!
Nice hat. YPAS perc will get you to 1k subscribers. Don’t worry, you’ll soon understand.
Thank you so much! I'm absolutely loving this little community we're building!
This was awesome content thank you for your take!
I'm excited that people are finding this video to be validating and useful!
Like you said in the video if SCV Quit looking like they’re not into it and put some emotion in it Id buy into it
Yep. They're a really good line, just something got into their heads for this lot. It's hard to shake something like that. Hopefully they were able to crank up the energy for the actual show.
Great work sir!! 🙌🏻 educational, entertaining, and well edited 🙏🏻definitely put an 8th note on the like button 😎
Thank you, thank you! 🤓
Yeah I will say the energy given off them was almost nothing compared to bluecoats in the lot. I was expecting so much more from them, not saying they're bad, but I completely agree with what you're saying. I also feel like Bryce brought a lot to the table for SCV.
Yep, something spooked them. We all know they're better; this was just a weird night. And apparently there's only one vet in the whole battery! Performance anxiety will catch up to the best of us... Can't wait to see what they do when they return!
I played both baritone and one- half- a year- played snare, then went back to baritone for my age out. This wasn't the stone age, but I guess you could call it the bronze age of the activity. One might think that playing drums is more physical, but it's really the brass instrument, putting as much air as possible through a horn, while holding it up in front of your face not being able to see directly in front of you and having to look around it unless it's down or doing something with it, while marching and running for 10 minutes, that is the greater physical demand. While percussion is the head game, trying to make perfect sounds which only last 500ths of a second or whatever. But you can see in front of you, and you can breathe. There are plenty of reasons I didn't make it as a percussionist- mainly that I was going hungry, everyone thought someone was feeding me and no one was, I had $40 in my pocket the whole summer, I wasn't afraid of the caption head but the snare tech was a guy with a skull-like face who was constantly on my ass, and ADHD and drumming are a bad mix. In a larger corps, I'd simply be cut. We also had a drug (ephedrin) problem in the horn line, nothing I was doing but a girl OD'ed and threw up on my sleeping bag- and a bus accident, where a driver had a heart attack and I watched the bus in front of us- thought it was going to pull over but it instead rolled off a hill and out of view. We were not allowed to get off the bus, and had to sit there wondering if they were OK. I can't remember if the drug problem or the bus accident happened first. All that paled in comparison to feeling like I could zone out at any moment and screw up the line. Knowing I was leaving, my final show DCM I played as if not a care and the skullface guy came up to shake my hand. I left with my good friend who was at the show, without telling anyone.
I love that you appreciate the different challenges each section face. Not a lot of people have that perspective - especially these days! Thank you for sharing, sounds like you've got some insane stories!
@@paddric_ryan I do lol. Thanks and I appreciate you.
Feeling the love!! I marched snare in Crossmen '83 & '84.
Yessssssssssssssssssss!
@@paddric_ryan I'm not finished listening but I'm enjoying all so far!
@@lylelylers I appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
@@paddric_ryan of course. I'm always hoping for perfection and therefore I yell out when I hear a mistake. This is high level as SCV has always been, but yes I hear what you're hearing and saying "Come On!!" 😃
They're better than this and perhaps the psychology of shaking off one mistake became a challenge. 2 choices as I see it: play immediately after a "heard mistake" as if it Never happened, or stay stuck in frustration and then your concentration may contribute suddenly More mistakes!! I experienced the goosebumps in Finals '84 because our book was so well learned and our clarity was like listening in stereo especially in roll sequences with cleanliness all around!! SCV has always been my favorite drumline. They make other drumlines better because of the bar they set!! A memory: our drumline (Crossmen) jammed with Vanguard's drumline after a California show in '83!!! My rookie year - I was in DCI drumline heaven!!! I had Fred Sanford drum on my drum and all the snares in '84 as he stopped by a few times apparently at Mark Thurston's request and worked with us as well!!! My ears are Always listening so carefully. Honestly my wife wishes I would enjoy more of the overall show when we're at a competition, but hey, once a drummer always a drummer!! I am usually always staring at the drumline! 😃 I tip my hat to Blue Coats, they're right there with SCV!! I think it's going to be a fun year. For those of us who usually don't see as much until near finals (I'll be at the Salem VA show) start finding RUclips videos and begin finding the best drumlines just from careful listening but realizing improvements Do come as the season progresses either from hosing difficult book spots vs. good old determination and grit to master tough spots!!
@@lylelylers oh man, what a crazy memory! Fred Sanford on your drum?!?! 🤯 Thank you for sharing! I love it!
I could never play at that level. All I hear is perfection. However, I appreciate your level and explaining it. 11:13 I get it though, with any team oriented deal. It's the razor edge where the heart lies. It's the moment when all the practice pays off. It's really intimate, like a good racing pitstop, or perfect play in a game. When it's there it's there, and you couldn't mess up even if you wanted to. It's perfect. Perfect meaning nothing can be improved. Perfect. I can't nuance this but as a performer I know that fleeting feeling. It's incredible. It
But you CAN play at that level; I truly believe that everyone can... The trick is for everyone else to ALSO play at that level at the SAME time. It's absolute magic.
Me haha, I appreciate the ego boost. Haha. Like, I can ride a skateboard but I'll never be a Tony Hawk or Shaun White. Lol, I appreciate it though. My 6 stroke rolls sound like a smashed hexagon. (Id probably make you vomit) But I get what you are saying. We all CAN. Really good video on a tough subject. Good "lesson" teach. Very well done video 10/10.
This video was incredible.
Thanks! I'm glad you're here!
Mismanagement at the corps strikes again. Certainly they were young, but entirely capable of slaying this book. Throughout our history, it's been the adults that tether the members. So glad you spoke to infectious mindset here, as even Rennick couldn't protect them from that.
That said, please consider going old school and giving the 04 line an analysis. Dem slurrtas be on fire. Rode the drum bus that year and got to hear them practicing non stop. Lucky me. 😊
Paul and Sandi do a lot for the kids as far as mindset goes. They are fully aware of every decision and how it affects the players, and they are masters at it. But yeah, there are some things that are just plain out of their control.
I was in the snareline at Phantom Regiment in 2004 and man oh man SCV was good that year. I absolutely love that show! One of my favorites of all time.
@paddric_ryan I hear nothing but amazing things about the Rennicks.
And cool that we're from the same era. Hats off to you.
Really interesting watch for me because I can feel like the vibe is off but I'm not a percussionist and I think everything sounds fantastic and can't identify any dirt 😅 but the message is great
Yep! I think I've said it in other videos; you don't have to be a drummer or even musician to tell when something isn't quite right. We're all humans.
You and Jeremy were my first drumline techs back in the day. Glad to see you are well!
🤯🤯🤯🤯 Lake Highlands?
Yes Sir!
@@adebayoajibade5236 I knew it! #nailedit lol, we're old now... BOTH of us!
@Paddric Ryan yeah... that was 18 years ago now. I ended up at NT but not in the music program. .
@@adebayoajibade5236 that's insane!
Number one thing the Hebron director gave us as a band was our motto. All In All The Time. Practice how you’ll play and leave it all on the field and great things will come from it
im really fucking love ur video dude, keep it up
Thanks!
Not a drum corps level performer (hopefully in the next couple years though), but a former tech I had once told me that marching percussion is 80% mental and I honestly totally cannot blame anyone on the SCV line. A bad day can fuck up an entire performance, the fact that the fuzz can only really be nitpicked out is impressive enough on it’s own. Massive coats fanboy but I wouldn’t be unhappy if SCV came back in 2024 with a Sanford
Yes! I've fortunately been able to speak with a few people from this group, and took the opportunity to remind them that they had SUCH a good summer and they should be proud of what they achieved!
I have absolutely no doubts that they'll be coming back stronger than ever, and I can't wait!
I wonder if there are gonna be any vets at all for 24 cause isn't there a ruling against coming back to a corps after a year break?
I'm certain there are vets. 🙃
Sounds like maybe a long bus ride
For sure! They're out for blood this year and it warms my heart!
Here’s the think SCV had Cameron Cavender and Bryce Hall the past couple years, the in line leadership isn't there without them just yet, knowing Bryce and Cameron they would touch on a lot of these things, and have pushed for a higher level of energy.
Plus the general fact that most of these kids are from UNT and looks like a new group to SCV
@@MateoBacolor-ir1jf yep! @MarchingVlogs was just saying that everyone but one quad drummer was new to the group. And yeah, pretty typical that Paul's lines have a ton of UNT people. We were doing drumline camps in Denton back when Paul was at Crown! Oh man, I'm old lol
@@paddric_ryan I just think once they get a leader in the group they’ll be as cohesive as ever, it sucked to see, but they just need that extra hmph
@@MateoBacolor-ir1jf 100% I have no doubt they're going to be incredible!
Where did you get that hat from?
Sandlot Goods. They let you make custom hats, and I'm a nerd, so.... Lol
Thanks for the Vlog....
You win the ship in rehearsal, and go pick it up at the contest.
100000000% Like we said in the Navy: train like you fight
For the algorithm. ✊
I love it! Thank you! I'm glad you're here!
@@paddric_ryan Thank YOU!! 😎🤙
I luv that baseball cap!
Thanks! It's a custom hat from Sandlot Goods. I don't know if they're doing customs right now.. 🫤
Cool hat
Thanks! Custom made from Sandlot Goods!
Banger of a video
💪🤓 Thanks! Hope I can do it again!
Ok, So it wasnt only me. It felt like a group that had amazing music but the emotion was just gone. I don't know what happened but It just didn't feel like a SCV line. The skill was there but emotion wasnt.
I've seen other vids of this group, and they've got heart. This must've just been a weird day.
@@paddric_ryan Exactly. Its sad that it transferred over to competition. Was really looking forward to seeing Vanguard 5-peat the caption. They will come back stronger than ever 2024.
@@starracer2057 hell yes they will!
Hey sir, can you make a video about Flams?
Yep, yep! I'll add it to my list! Anything specific questions?
Do you teach any schools, cuz a lot of kids struggle with this. You'd be a great motivational instructor
Thank you! At present, I teach private lessons only. I haven't fully decided if I ever want to be a full timer again...
SCV 2022 bass drum line was amazing. I’m gonna miss SCV in 2023. They’ve been one of my all-time favorites since my drum corps days in the 1970s- 1980s.
Oh yes, this baseline is insane. They make it sound effortless!
LMAO play a diddle on the dislike
🤣🤣🤣 that's a variation on something one of my favorite RUclipsrs used to say in his videos.. Thanks for sticking around to the end! That helps the algorithm more than a lot of things!
@@paddric_ryan incredible editing throughout the video, enjoyed it very much 😁
@@camilleon352 thanks! I wanted to bring something not so common to drum videos. Drumbeats Online does some cool editing. Although, I think he has a team... I'm just. . . Me lol
Probably got the new they will fold next season
Man, who knows what's going to happen!