Great video! You explained everything clearly without missing any details. I really appreciate how you split the screen, with one side showing gameplay and the other providing context on what you're discussing. Also, the way you moved your character to different locations to introduce this video and the one on Archon is a nice detail ! Thanks Publik 😀
I've been excited and hyping up Voidweaver ever since Blizz dropped the names of the hero talent trees. And every time I looked at it and looked at updates I was pretty happy with it. The only thing I really wish they had done was made this hero tree more focused around Void Eruption. I'm so tired of Dark Ascension playstyle, and I really think Voidweaver with a 30s "miniburst' and 90-120s "main burst" would have been really fun to play rotationally. I can't wait to play Shadow in a raid and tell my raid team I'm a melee main now :D
Reading the comments, am i the only one that actually likes a lot DA and Mind Spike? Building up those huge Mind Blast/Void blast? Also love how cool the wings look.
@@mattwc93 exactly ngl i kinda wish we had the old void form where it activates at 100 insanity and you have insanity spenders to reduce insanity so it only reaches 100 at times. its more fitting for the thematic of the void and "going insane"
5:25 it's also weird to me that Void Eruption will refill your Mind Blast charges, while Dark Ascension will not. You can easily get 4 void blast out if you torrent, blast, blast, eruption, and then get 2 more. Can't do that with DA though, which is even supposed to be the one going harder into direct damage vs. DoT damage. From a balance perspective it probably makes sense, but it feels unintuitive somehow.
I might be the only spriest on the planet that actually feel that Archon with voidform and more dot focus seems more fun for m+ than voidweaver more up front dmg
I really appreciate the work you put into Shadow Priest and agree with pretty much everything you said. I am also really sad to see that Void Eruption has no interaction with Voidweavers Kit. I hope that they listen to feedback and make improvements where they can, and I hope they see this video!
I enjoyed the vid! Super fun visuals and great hero talent nodes. Blizzard hasn't made good on their promise to rework dark ascension into a real ability and I don't have MOP/Cata nostalgia for the mind spike/shadow orb days so I don't want to ditch an iconic ability like mind flay. With mind spike, shadow is just too similar to balance druid - it has two main dots like moonfire and sunfire, a 1.5s casted filler like wrath and an instant cast spender (devouring plague is basically starsurge). The channeled filler and 1.5s cast of mind blast on a cooldown has made shadow feel unique since vanilla. So I'll probably just play this in lower keys and heroic raid with mind flay/void eruption despite it being suboptimal dmg. Hope DA gets fixed or removed!
I looked at your list of bugs. I think the one about Entropic Rift being buffed by Dark Ascension is the way it needs to be. Otherwise there would be a large discrepancy between playing Dark Ascension vs Void Eruption since Voidform increases AoE damge indirectly via the Shadow Priest's mastery effect (i.e., all targets receive damage as if they have all DoTs active). Also, in my testing Shadow Word: Death isn't doing extra damage to targets lower than 20%. You could try confirming that and add it to your list if you agree.
Yeah it’s just odd because the rift is definitely flagged as periodic damage so it’s quite confusing when effects like dark evang don’t buff it. And yeah the death bugs started yesterday I haven’t gotten time to add them yet but plan on getting to it after the weekend
Quick thought on voidweaver incentivizing mind spike too much over mind flay: if they switched the talent location of mind spike and mind melt, and made mind flay ticks pump up the crit chance of mind blast if you took mind melt, it might give people more choice.
@@Publikwow I hate mind spike - too generic, too similar to wrath, fireball, frostbolt, shadow bolt, etc., but those who long for the shadow orb era find it nostalgic so I hate to keep it away from them.
I really don't get it. My favorite part about spriest is voidform and the shadow boys. Why the hell does it seem like blizzard is trying to push me to play another spec. Why cant voidform get any love? I loved trying to push to maintain my VF as long as possible. Why can't i summon an army of shadow boys to blitzkrieg my target? Where are those talents? I hate DA. I hate mind spike. How hard is this to nail for bliz? At this rate it's archon for me... Thanks for the breakdowns Publik.
I know it's still early, but how are the meters looking for voidweaver? I've always been a Spriest, but have recently been thinking about swapping to Lock. VW def looks really dope.
I love the look of shadow but never played it. my guild says its a super hard dps class to learn.. it looks pretty complicated do you think its not worth doing if your a noob?
Please Publik, try to get shadowform added to the barbershop, i fucking hate purple fart cloud. being playing cata classic, i miss old shadowform so much
Just make the left side for dots the middle for spirits and the right for hard casts Dots = always do some aoe and some single target Spirits = do more aoe damage and less for single target Hard casts = always the best for single target Oh wow looks like we have a tree where we need to balance between aoe and single target damage mhm was really hard :) And no one knows why voidweaver isnt working over voidform use and instead torrent And the same for archon where it should be dark ascension and not halo ffs who cares about halo????
Why are they nerfing voidweaver every single week. Check the new beta build last night and once again they nerfed it. Go look at the raid logs, it's not like spriest is doing crazy dmg. So I don't understand why the weekly nerfs.
Voidweaver looking reeeal sweet, thanks for keeping us posted. I really hope that Void Eruption stays out of the picture for at least one patch, given how it was mandatory in M+ every single time before. Also with how much SP already has on their plates rotationally, I would prefer it to be tailored towards Raid generally.
Great video! You explained everything clearly without missing any details. I really appreciate how you split the screen, with one side showing gameplay and the other providing context on what you're discussing. Also, the way you moved your character to different locations to introduce this video and the one on Archon is a nice detail ! Thanks Publik 😀
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for your hard work publik
I've been excited and hyping up Voidweaver ever since Blizz dropped the names of the hero talent trees. And every time I looked at it and looked at updates I was pretty happy with it. The only thing I really wish they had done was made this hero tree more focused around Void Eruption. I'm so tired of Dark Ascension playstyle, and I really think Voidweaver with a 30s "miniburst' and 90-120s "main burst" would have been really fun to play rotationally.
I can't wait to play Shadow in a raid and tell my raid team I'm a melee main now :D
would love to see something like void blast summoning two apparitions instead of one to allow more talent diversity.
Reading the comments, am i the only one that actually likes a lot DA and Mind Spike? Building up those huge Mind Blast/Void blast? Also love how cool the wings look.
you are our (spreists) ambassador and we thank you for that. i believe todays blizz do listen to people and will work out shadow based on your videos
plz dun make it so that we have to run dark ascension, VE looks and feel so much better IMO
Yes I kind of wish they'd just nuke this choice node and make Void eruption baseline. DA is so boring
@@mattwc93 exactly ngl i kinda wish we had the old void form where it activates at 100 insanity and you have insanity spenders to reduce insanity so it only reaches 100 at times. its more fitting for the thematic of the void and "going insane"
5:25 it's also weird to me that Void Eruption will refill your Mind Blast charges, while Dark Ascension will not.
You can easily get 4 void blast out if you torrent, blast, blast, eruption, and then get 2 more. Can't do that with DA though, which is even supposed to be the one going harder into direct damage vs. DoT damage. From a balance perspective it probably makes sense, but it feels unintuitive somehow.
All the things I dislike are good with this hero tree? meh. (Mind Spike, Dark Ascension and Inescapable Torment)
I might be the only spriest on the planet that actually feel that Archon with voidform and more dot focus seems more fun for m+ than voidweaver more up front dmg
Extra dot damage from voidweaver tho
No you are not the only one. I'm going to be playing Archon. Voidweaver just doesn't do it for me.
I DONT wanna play inescapable torment. Please Blizzard
The new ability seems amazing. In WoW lore, shadow is given a the nickname void. Idk if that’s a valid nitpick.
I really appreciate the work you put into Shadow Priest and agree with pretty much everything you said. I am also really sad to see that Void Eruption has no interaction with Voidweavers Kit. I hope that they listen to feedback and make improvements where they can, and I hope they see this video!
I enjoyed the vid! Super fun visuals and great hero talent nodes. Blizzard hasn't made good on their promise to rework dark ascension into a real ability and I don't have MOP/Cata nostalgia for the mind spike/shadow orb days so I don't want to ditch an iconic ability like mind flay. With mind spike, shadow is just too similar to balance druid - it has two main dots like moonfire and sunfire, a 1.5s casted filler like wrath and an instant cast spender (devouring plague is basically starsurge). The channeled filler and 1.5s cast of mind blast on a cooldown has made shadow feel unique since vanilla. So I'll probably just play this in lower keys and heroic raid with mind flay/void eruption despite it being suboptimal dmg. Hope DA gets fixed or removed!
Inescapable torment again? Please not again. Please no. Please.
Well. I'm going to be playing Archon on my Shadow Priest. Voidweaver just doesn't do it for me.
Thank you for the feedback :D
what shadow really needs is a On-Death dot transfer, so many times your SC just trolls you and hits some random bozo mobs and none of the big boys xD
I looked at your list of bugs. I think the one about Entropic Rift being buffed by Dark Ascension is the way it needs to be. Otherwise there would be a large discrepancy between playing Dark Ascension vs Void Eruption since Voidform increases AoE damge indirectly via the Shadow Priest's mastery effect (i.e., all targets receive damage as if they have all DoTs active).
Also, in my testing Shadow Word: Death isn't doing extra damage to targets lower than 20%. You could try confirming that and add it to your list if you agree.
Yeah it’s just odd because the rift is definitely flagged as periodic damage so it’s quite confusing when effects like dark evang don’t buff it. And yeah the death bugs started yesterday I haven’t gotten time to add them yet but plan on getting to it after the weekend
I have a great video idea. The class that DISAPPEARED: How Blizz COMPLETELY forgot Priest exists going into TWW
Quick thought on voidweaver incentivizing mind spike too much over mind flay: if they switched the talent location of mind spike and mind melt, and made mind flay ticks pump up the crit chance of mind blast if you took mind melt, it might give people more choice.
Tbh at that point I would just get rid of spike
@@Publikwow I hate mind spike - too generic, too similar to wrath, fireball, frostbolt, shadow bolt, etc., but those who long for the shadow orb era find it nostalgic so I hate to keep it away from them.
im not sure why this was nerfed by 25% tbh... so much fun if the rift slaps
They also fixed a bug so each cast of Devouring Plague increases its damage by 20%. So in the end it works out :)
@@Publikwow thats true jea :)
I also REALLY hope they male VF viable with void weaver:) otherwise its gonna be Archon for me :(
As a new Spriest this is too advanced for me, is there a beginner guide from you ?
Will definitely have more as the expansion launches
Ultimate Penitence makes the rift a thic boi
Yeah it was pretty wild in the first iteration before they capped its size
Can we also mention how they are constantly nerfing this tree 😭😭😭
I really don't get it. My favorite part about spriest is voidform and the shadow boys. Why the hell does it seem like blizzard is trying to push me to play another spec. Why cant voidform get any love? I loved trying to push to maintain my VF as long as possible. Why can't i summon an army of shadow boys to blitzkrieg my target? Where are those talents? I hate DA. I hate mind spike. How hard is this to nail for bliz? At this rate it's archon for me...
Thanks for the breakdowns Publik.
I know it's still early, but how are the meters looking for voidweaver? I've always been a Spriest, but have recently been thinking about swapping to Lock. VW def looks really dope.
So far things look like shadow is solid middle of the pack
@@Publikwow Middle in raid and m+? I'm usually cool with that. It means no close nerfs lol.
10:00 the best answer to solve it is to delete mind spike from the game
What u think about Destruction warlock in upcomming addon? I allways see the instant dmg in AOE
To me destro was always too simple to feel satisfying to play
@@Publikwow good point, thanks
I love the look of shadow but never played it. my guild says its a super hard dps class to learn.. it looks pretty complicated do you think its not worth doing if your a noob?
That was true in the past but to be honest it’s a pretty simple spec to pick up with room to grow and master the spec imo
@@Publikwow ty for the reply.. i guess ill give it ago :D
I get excited when I hear the intro music.
I really hope your channel gets popular so you can get an editor
Please Publik, try to get shadowform added to the barbershop, i fucking hate purple fart cloud. being playing cata classic, i miss old shadowform so much
Just make the left side for dots the middle for spirits and the right for hard casts
Dots = always do some aoe and some single target
Spirits = do more aoe damage and less for single target
Hard casts = always the best for single target
Oh wow looks like we have a tree where we need to balance between aoe and single target damage mhm was really hard :)
And no one knows why voidweaver isnt working over voidform use and instead torrent
And the same for archon where it should be dark ascension and not halo ffs who cares about halo????
I hate the mind bender talents at the bottom. Please dont tell me we are playing that shit all xpac.
Why are they nerfing voidweaver every single week. Check the new beta build last night and once again they nerfed it. Go look at the raid logs, it's not like spriest is doing crazy dmg. So I don't understand why the weekly nerfs.
This is going to slam in pvp
The rift doesnt move that quickly in PvP so blink/etc can really counter it. But we'll see!
Voidweaver looking reeeal sweet, thanks for keeping us posted. I really hope that Void Eruption stays out of the picture for at least one patch, given how it was mandatory in M+ every single time before. Also with how much SP already has on their plates rotationally, I would prefer it to be tailored towards Raid generally.
Inescapable torment again? Please not again. Please no. Please.