Men Now VS Men Then
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2022
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Men Now VS Men Then tells the story of a young boy named Ivo. He has many hobbies, but none of them can be described as masculine. His father, knowing what difficulties a young teenager can go through, decides to intervene. Trying to understand what is the cause of his son's current state, he unsuccessfully tries to encourage him to do male hobbies. Will he succeed?
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What are some masculine activities/ hobbies that you can do?
jim
cry
idk
gym
Shooting guns
They are different. However:
- Father comes to see how his son performance , worries about his future, tells him about the psychology of people and current events, he is not afraid to try something new that they could do together with his son, always calm and never blames his son for failures, can handle "no, dad" as an answer.
- Son is always ready to spend time with his dad, trusts him and therefore he is not afraid to express his own opinion, really listens to what his father says, does not use the “you don’t understand anything” card when disagrees, enjoys spending time with dad if they both found joy in activity.
They are different, but they are family.
This is exactly how I want my kid to grow up. Fearless when expressing themselves but also calm and polite. Man I just want to teach my kids how to think like a sane person would.
@@GodSentJose I am not letting my kid (regardless of gender) locking themselves in their room without a reasonable explanation. "Stuff" comes off as very suspicious in my opinion.
i would kill my son if he was like this
@@busterdouglas2250 i mean, people needs privacy, and teenagers more
@@busterdouglas2250 What if they're locking their doors because they've been sexually violated and is too ashamed to tell you?
Its nice to see the idea of a father caring about his son in a calm, collected, cautious way.
I can’t watch these videos because of the melancholy and terrifying background white noise
@@weallstilldie The ambient music is always bleak and crushing.
@@samarthur407 That's why I can't watch it, it freaks me out too much.
He is not real man, for he is soft.
i feel like the chad dad got kuked by the mom
I like how they both show acceptance toward each other. The dad never downgrades or attacks his son for acting so feminine; likewise, the son doesn't oppose the masculine activities his dad takes him to. If anything, they appreciate each other, like how the son was excited to fix the shed with his dad. In the end, a parent-child relationship comes before everything else.
There is a thing that I don’t understand: since when classic dancing is considered as a girl activity. Like there always be men dancer: ruclips.net/video/CDB8fV9PVTU/видео.html
@@tyn_joueurswitch1505most men who classic dance nowadays are gay but then men used to play almost all sports
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@@ZaKaizermore like dance nowadays is considered a feminine hobby and the only other places people dance are extremely formal or full of drunk fools
No. The father needs to teach the son to be a man and remove femininity from him.
The rocket launcher shit killed me
Same lmao
He aint wrong tho, that ammo IS expensive
I love how his character building is complex, the dad isn't the stereotypical ignorant dad, he has empathy. and his son is trying to listen instead of just ignoring him. Really realistic
Well to some degree, you know easy parents don't get that much respect anymore from their entitled gen z kids, and ridiculously strict parents do not respect their kids, leading to drugs, depression, suicide, and other unhealthy behaviors.
@@luisr0987 Ngl I was judging in the first part but the second part yeah everything you said is correct
Very similar to my dad-son situation. I'm trying to understand him, but it's difficult. And he is trying too, we get some common thoughts and other we are just different. Masculine is a big thing when it comes suddenly when you are with your father, just you and him. I'm trying to tell him my hobbies. But I think is not enough or maybe I'm not with confidence with them. I see other parents talking each other with a high confidence but I jus back to my reality and It seems like teacher-student conversation. At least we are trying to improve that, but problems are not solve yet.
@@dolan999 I'm gonna say entitlement comes with comfort. There's plenty of kids out there that are respectful. But they probably grew up in poverty. Less being forced to respect their elders but growing to respect their elders seeing the pains they go through just for them.
My parent were quite easy on me for an Asian parents.
Not sure wither it because of my depression from getting into a fight and having no friend since childhood to now or something else.
I love my parent of course but I often get irretated fast and often regret my action.
Gen Z are all too easilly offended, weak, made up new words like genders and pronoun.
Some shamed me for miss pronoun them even tho they never told me. And one time when I was at low end, they called me stuff and tried to win the conversation by saying that my depression is fake, how I'm fucked up or how they had it worse. It not about competing who had it worse and all that she kept swearing with every sentence while I'm being as calm as I can and telling her to calm down.
I had to been born in the worst generation. I'm 18 and from my experience Gen Z are foolish. They judge other when they ask for a no juding society, they insult other while feeling hurted themselve, most are the bad kind of LGBTQ, calling men useless and worthless.
Look at social media for example. Women hit a guy, nobody care. Guy fight back, society went apeshit to the point that the guy lost his jobs and some killed themselve. Society still protect the girl and forgot about it. The gender equality thing has gone too far from having the same right to it being cool to oppress male. And they still think that male are oppressing women.
I was teached to respect elders and teachers because that's just asian tradition. But from what I seen in real life and online. Gen Z made fun of homeless, talked back to teacher for doing their job. It goes against everything I stand for. If I could erase them from this world, I would.
I am not gonna lie but this guy really knows how to make a story and make it feel really realistic. this is honestly pretty impressive.
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Most of them are propably based on real stories.
Exactly, better than Hollywood which does the opposite by promoting weak men and toxic women
Modern liberalism lgbt propaganda leads to all this. I tell you this as a Russian person. The Western world will fall because you have accepted this shit
Yeah this one is probably not real but I think the ones where he talks about his polish adventures - mans the average polish doomer lmao
To be real though, I think every story has a piece of him or at least his thoughts that he only really shares online while being quiet irl
I like how it doesn't degrade either side or make fun of them. The very idea of a man is subjective after all. Any way you decide to live is valid, and I like that the dad and son are able to understand each other and appreciate each other despite their differences
I love these characters, they speak to my soul. I've never been really "masculine", short, have long hair, I'm fit but not built, introverted, talented but not in "traditional" ways, and I'm straight. I did a lot of overcompensating in high school which left me kind of messed up in the head for a long time, but I've come to embrace who I am and those things I can't change about myself. I wish that I had a father like ivo does.
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Man up.
@@BucketExperience You'd be shocked at how little saying nonsense like that changes anything, but if you wish to repeat the mistakes of my youth, by all means be my guest.
@@bitshiftme you're a weakling, men are meant to be masculine. Boys are meant to be men. You as a male have the duty to be a strong man. Your mistake was trying to accept your femininity. Cut your damn hair, go to the damn gym and become the best man that you can be. Stop accepting femininity, stop being girly. So like I said. Man up.
I know how you feel so painfully.
honestly this is kinda wholesome. This isn't any broken family dynamic or anything, the dad just genuinely cares about his son and is afraid that he will go through the same experiences he had to endure as a teenager. It's just that it's not like that for his son.
Edit: sorry i was busy while watching and might have grasped some things wrongly my bad. The point that the dad is mainly afraid for his son to get bullied and stomped on just because he isn't the traditional masculine guy still stands though.
Also I wouldn't say that the dad working so much and spending too little with his son can really be called broken. It's not ideal yea, but he does realize it in the end and starts spending more time with him and you can tell they genuinely love and care for each other.
@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] shut up and let him think whatever he wants to think
@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] please stfu. This isn't shithole twitter
Dude, look at 7:28... The father is not going through anything there, he's just watching the chess nerd getting bullied and doing nothing.
@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] These videos are quite literally meant to be "that deep"
@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] silly af
Honestly the son and the father in this seem to care about and love each other, so the situation is far from hopeless or even all that dire. They actually seemed happy fixing the shed together. Maybe the son can take shop class and learn a thing or two about tools and repairing things.
What's even the problem. That his son isn't 200 pounds of meat? Sounds like the dad is more insecure about masculinity than the son.
@@annilator3000 agreed
@@annilator3000 yea that's what I'm seeing as well, what the father should be doing is supporting his son. Sides at 7:30 it kinda shows how not so great he really is.
@@annilator3000 you don't gotta be 200 pounds of raw muscle but as a young guy you need at least some decent strength, and do you not see that his son literally looks more like a daughter? Bro can't even throw a baseball
@@yoru7239 Weakness is strength, strength is weakness. Thanks Orwell!
"This ammo is too expensive."
That really hit the feel spot.
At 5:05 the dad mentions martial arts, and the son says he's not built for it but the dad disagrees.
I love this. Because martial arts is all about self improvement and nothing else. I took up fencing, and the absolute bliss of pulling off correct parries is something that I never achieved through weightlifting or manliness. Just practice and determination.
no offense but is fencing a martial art? does it actually help with actual real swords?
@@demaciaviceotter2347 HEMA Fencing includes boxing, sword play, wrestling and dagger fighting. So if you ignore the sword part, it still absolutely helps you learn to fight if that's what you wanna know.
@@Paperminte I thought fencing is only that thing where u dress up in white bee suit like things and touch each other with a rapier like sword, which isn't even a real sword that was used in battles. so I always saw it as a weird dance. thanks for the info
@@demaciaviceotter2347 That's one type of fencing :) You're thinking of Olympic fencing. They use Epee, saber, and foil. All modern and fancy.
Another type of fencing would HEMA. Look that up, it's the best
Nice bro, I do HEMA, longsword and it s manly af.
Violent, elegant and athletic.
It's amazing how respectful they are of eachother. No yelling, just mindful, respectful conversation about a harsh subject.
edit: I'm not saying they're a great family with no problems. I'm saying it's good they're calm and not confrontational.
seems to work aswell omg
yeah it's legitimately amazed from the chemistry and just realness of the scene
you know, ut's hard to yell when your voice is literally voice modulator
I wouldn't call the conversation between the father and son respectful. The son doesn't have any room to speak because the father goes on and on about himself, never bothering to ask about how his son feels about things.
I suggest the dad reccomend hema to him
an elegant sport, fit for an elegant body of his, it won't even need too much physical training, it's mostly about the mind, and cause swords contrary to popular belief, are pretty light.
The father is so badass he doesn't need the seatbelt, so he's giving it to his son 😂
the attention to detail in this vid is insane lmao
When the car crashes, the pa absorbs every bit of impact 🫡
Dude straight up caught shrapnel with his bear hands
@@alphatrex612 Clark Kent?
@@-_J_- Dude shooting a RPG in house with no headset
I recently discovered that channel. Truly, it's a great job. Drawings are good and it's well explained.
this is actually a lot different than I expected
it's wholesome
"Women Now VS Women Then" would be very interesting
this
It's the same as how fucked up the men these days 😭
Or dating now vs dating then. I actually found it harder to meet people that want something serious nowdays instead of the casual hook up. Nobody wants to commit anymore
Feminists*
Yes
I love that moment at the end when the dad realised that his son became the same kind of people his friends used to bully back in high school
I feel like that’s how my dad sees me
@@jokerpilled2535 your profile picture is Joker Pepe the frog so you’re probably correct
@@DarwinskiYT 💀
Yeah. School is just a bubble of the reality. Many of us realize many years later how stupid we were because there was a "little society" at school and we wanted to be part of it in some way. Some just improves their skills in something, and some just bully other ones for nonsense reasons.
@@DarwinskiYT ok Patrick
I really like that two people understand each other and can manage their emotions. This is a standard model parent.
This is great ❤
bruh the son looks more feminine than the mother 💀
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*skull emoji*
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Eh I mean they're kinda close but his mom still looks more feminine well because she's a woman.
I love how the thumbnails make it seem as if the video will be easy to read and formulaic, but always turns out philosophical and thought provoking. Always a great job man!
I honestly thought it’d be another one of those videos that glorify war and the concept of men going to war and dying. I’m glad it wasn’t that.
@@frog6327 Finally someone who thinks the same way as I do! Yes, being a strong man and able to protect your country is amazing, but no one wants any wars to happen, they train for it incase it happens. Warzones should not be glorified, they deserve respect not admiration.
@@Anomalous_loafofbread EXACTLY. Spot on, brother(or sister).
Why wasn't formulaic and easy to read?
@@Anomalous_loafofbread They're not glorified. And i don't think you understood the point of those videos.
4:41 what a chad he dropped the tree just pulling its root
Bro male ballet requires crazy strength plus you get great intimate time with women
cope
@@johnsongregory5897you try it then
Last part kinda weird.
Doesn’t dance help with balance and stuff, hence why athletes will do it.
I might be wrong, not a sports guy
first part is true, second part is just creepy
get him on a list with the last part
I especially loved shooting range scene. Father pulling out a whole arse RPG, catching the shrapnel right before Ivo's eyes and "tHiS aMmO iS tOo ExPeNsIvE"
This is really a dad moment
If Only we had any shooting ranges
"arse"
dog activated bri'ish mode
That man has hyper reflexes. My only problem is this, neither of them wore safety glasses. One of the most important PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) to ever have in a shooting range, and pretty much every any labor job (welding, etc.)
The look on the kids face right after dad says "somewhere where men are born"
I love how healthy this son-father relationship is. They're both respectful of each other even they have different opinions. No yelling and screaming.
Does not look that healthy to me. The father is insecure about his own masculinity. Instead of being present and there for his son, he is constantly projecting and checking on him.
Really, its actually quite wholesome
Cuz their using AI voice das Y 😒
@@Solune421 at least they present their emotion in more respectful manner. There are tons of family who have the same problem, but its the matter of how they deal with it.
@@popovicjovan We have a different perspective on this, I guess. I see a pathological dynamic in the video, not a healthy connection. The father is insecure, relating to his son through his own fears, trying to protect him from the world and not realizing the demons are not out there but in his own head.
"I fear for you so I want to shape you" instead of "I accept you and are here for you, so you can grow stronger with my lead".
I really enjoyed this.
This is so true ☹️
I'm genuinely surprised that they are open to eachother's opinion. They're calm, and talk about what they think.
it is 2 men talking, such is normal friend!
I’m surprised there are such supportive dads to begin with
@@minhtran7431 It's pretty common. Just stop watching tv and movies
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Born in an Asian family, I do have a supportive dad. He's just the stereotypical Asian "supportive" dad.
This duo is officially the best I've ever seen, these two are so different yet so they manage to understand each other without creating conflict
agreed
They are what humans would be if we were realistic
@jonaseristhart5672 if humans acted humane it would be like this
It still creates conflict, just a different type of conflict, sadness.
The son doesn't want the father to know, as he thinks the father will look at it with shame.
And the father, has no idea how much the internet has changed his son, and is oblivious to what it has caused.
But eh, I might just be projecting, either that, or the music is affecting my senses in a wrong way.
@@B_4035mn you explain it in a concerningly good way
Why is he so polite he is such a good son the man raised him right
true
I love how this isn't a video straight insulting the new generation and feminine men, but making a realistic story, good work!
"I'll throw you a light one." Proceeds to fucking demolish the kid and smash a wall
If the ball is to strong you are to weak.
@ Too weak my ass, he fucking smashed the wall.
@ pain 😥
I will sound like a nerd, but it is due to the strength of his father's hand and the speed at which the ball flew, even a very fast piece of paper can injure someone
The comedy in this episode was probably the best so far.
Good story, especially with that final quote. Hes not worried about his son because hes a weakling, hes worried because others might see that and do what he and his friends did in the past
I’m pretty sure he is worrying cuz of his weakling son
@@LoveYawheh bro completely missed the point 💀💀💀
Nah, even op said son is a weakling n others MIGHT see that.
Reason for that being father not spending time eith father before
@@LoveYawheh physical weakness isnt true weakness... and yet, we're all imperfect, if someone wants to, they can find and weigh on our weaknesses, but we must learn to manage around them better and see them. Just because in the past physical weakness was the only one to be generally seen, it doesnt mean we should be ignorants to the rest of them.
if my dad had been this considerate and understanding, I would've grown up with a decent amount of self esteem and confidence😂 my dad was actually bullied as a kid which is opposite to Ivo's dad, and he criticised and made fun of every mistake I made as a kid, which took away my confidence and will to challenge completely
Yeah, that is very notable in your name and profile photo.
@@superfluo6249lmaooo
is that why you seek validation on your knees
@@superfluo6249 bro wtf does that have to do with it.
@@darkplasmo7921what💀
Then you have my gay femboy ass, wearing the most feminine outfit I have while listening to heavy metal and building a literal engine in the machine-shop XD
Then I go home and listen to calm relaxing music and feed my pet isopods c:
And naturally has a proto pfp
you have a fucking pet what now
cute, based and fempilled
@@dr_popcorn :D
Shit.
I can relate to the son here. My father went to the military high school and my grandpa spent his whole life in the military as well. But when I was like 11-12 I was very weak and people always thought I was a girl and nobody took me serious (including my family members). My mom tried to send me to take dancing lessons even. So I used to be bullied a lot. Then one day I got tired of being alone and started doing some martial arts and basketball for years(I was doing sports every day of the week).
When I was 14 I was very buff and I had the strenght of 3 average guys in my age. People stopped messing with me but I was still alone because this time people thought I was this jock in the american movies (while I was actually a history nerd) so people avoided me. Some girls even tried to make me their bf to take advantage of me. After years of drama they made me avoid women in everywhere I go.
This year I finished highschool and made really good friends. What I learned was that the reason I was alone wasn't because I was feminine or masculine. It was because the people around me were shit. Yes how you look is important but you can change yourself however way you want to. If you feel alone and you don't think you are doing something wrong(like having anger issues, judging people, constantly lying or other personality problems) all you have to do is change your envoirment. But there is always the choice abandoning your own personality to fit in with the society. But then again that will ruin your life in the future.
Honestly your point is incredibly true, even here. The ultimate irony is that thinker is upset with men now, and wants people to stop doing things that they don’t like, while telling people to be the way he likes them. Ultimately I’m the reverse of your story. I tried to be super hyper masculine, but reality is I was a tomgirl. I tried living up to expectations I felt people had of me so I could fit in when it never mattered. Men now are not different from how they were, we stopped saying they had to be an emotionless husk. Some men like doing manly things, some don’t. But neither changes the fact that either one can still fight for what they want. I’m the person thinker wants to say society changed to be weaker, but honestly if anything, I was doing the opposite of what I wanted, or what this “society” wanted to fit in. The ultimate reality is that, you should do what you want. Cole Hastings, I think that’s his name, made multiple good videos that while not touching on these subjects rings true for them. Lost men exist more than ever now because their told this is how they need to be, but it never fulfills them. Fulfillment comes from being true to yourself, ultra masculine or not. If you like doing manly things, do them, it makes you happy. If you like feminine things or dressing feminine, do them as well. Nothing changes the fact you are a human being on this worth something to those around you who truly like you.
So essentially being alone >> having bad friends?
@@naturessacrifice8265 Just look at the statistics of fertility rates and testosterone rates dropping in men. You're a victim of plastic foods and soy.
thank you
@@phantomstriker7996 essentially you should go and make good friends
Jesus that final quote...
For what it's worth, my dad pushed me to find a sport to play. I wouldn't have picked one on my own.
We tried Baseball, then Basketball, then Soccer, and that was the one I enjoyed.
I look back on that thankful for his efforts and taking in interest in helping me find a hobby like that, because I wouldn't have done it myself. But I was also thankful that when I said I didn't like basketball or baseball, he respected that and moved on.
I made a lot of fond memories and friendships from soccer as a kid.
İ respect your dad man. Mine didn't do shit and didn't care about us find something like that or if we improve ourselves about anything. Eventually I felt like I am suck at everything.
My dad mostly did the same thing with me and my brother growing up, we played many different sports which to varying extents I all enjoyed, except for one. The problem was that he would refuse to let me quit a sport season after starting it, saying some generic line like "I'm not raising a quitter". I tried playing American football for one season back in 3rd grade (the year where they'd start tackling and wearing armor, instead of flag football). For a 70 pound kid this was extremely painful and traumatic, but as much as I dreaded going to the practices I was still more afraid of insisting I wanted to quit to my father.
@@thenew4559 I would say your father had the right mind-set but executed it horribly . Cant blame you or your father. Some fathers are more the very rough ones.
@@Snyperwolf91 I more or less agree. There can be value in pushing through and completing some things even when you want to quit, such as homework, a job/chore, or a workout, but for other non-important stuff like playing a sport that you hate there isn't any point in suffering through it. It's preferable to quit such things, when you dislike it and don't gain anything from it.
It's called football you dumas
Very truee dude
Last quote really hit hard,still think sometimes about decisions i made years ago that took only minutes to carry out.
There's both sides to this story that I like, the father is right to be worried about his son and the feminine image that may induce bullying, he's seen it and done nothing before and now looks to prevent that, especially with his child.
On the other hand, his child from what we've seen, yes he's a little suspicious with the door thing, but everyone is entitled to some privacy, and from what's shown is he's respectful and talented. More activities they both can actually enjoy together whether masculine or neither m/f based would help to ensure communication between the two and from there more options are available.
I always enjoy these videos, they're realistic and get the audience thinking what they would do and open a dialogue.
I really liked your analysis of the video and I completely agree
I think this is the best take on this video.
So theoretically, if the child wasn't getting bullied, is the dad just or unjust in changing or attempting to change his sons physical appearance?
I'm pretty sure that's where the primary disagreement is. Question, does a perceived greater good from Person A onto Person B give Person A the moral right to revoke a sense of freedom from person B?
We don't see parents disapproving of the interests and expressions of more nerdy kids(For the most part). We don't see parents actively trying to make their smart kids more lazy, because nerds in their days were bullied. Then the parents end up asking questions like "is my son being slightly above average worth him getting bullied for his entire high-school year?". The more complex these questions get (ie. not following gender norms), the less objective and beneficial they are. Not to mention the whole aspect of the child getting bullied is speculation.
I pretty much look like that and my dad is way taller and big but also a POS so isn’t as helpful lol
When it comes to the whole door thing most parents won't let them have that privacy, there's some families where they throw a fit for a locked door saying "why you locking the door? You're not paying bills here!!"
This is probably one of the most realistic dynamics between father son interactions in seem in the media, very well written and both sides seems conciliatory and get their point across in a calm matter. We need more representations like this in other shows
No tf we don't. That's the problem now
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 I mean, would you rather have a bland, unseasoned relationship with a father and son with already established growth, or would you rather see the struggles and rough patches in a familial relationship and see the growth? (also don't take this as an attack bc it isn't)
I love your animations so much bro!!❤
Why are all of these so good
What makes someone a real man isn't their profession or anything like that, but rather how they carry themselves and they treat others with compassion, and when you have the power to make the world at least a somewhat better place, it should be within you're own moral obligation to use said power responsibly.
Edit: so in other words just like what Uncle Ben taught Peter, "Wth great power must come with great responsibility"
So you’re basically saying “treating others well makes you a man”, that just makes you a good person. Manliness isn’t the same, yet has somewhat the same basis. You treat others with respect, compassion but you also have their back when they need it. Just being nice alone won’t help you protect other good people. Manliness still comes from masculinity.
@@Cronoroid well of course I believe to treat others with compassion and with human decency and help them out as much as possible no matter the cause, even if it may put you at a severe disadvantage
@@Cronoroid what is masculinity, tell me
@@criga8969 Did you read my reply?
is what makes you a man (wit out having them attached after birth wtf
I went into it thinking the dad was gonna be some toxic masculinity jock stereotype that couldn't love his son as he is. Came out of it just happy his dad wants him to be safe and to not get picked on for being who he is. Also, loved Ivo's grin when asked to help work on the shed. Was adorable.
Whats wrong with being masculine Lol?
Seriously
@@dude9318 I recommend using google. I didn't say masculinity was bad. Toxic masculinity is.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_masculinity
@@beleakswordsteel Ah ok i get it
@@beleakswordsteel Is there such a thing as toxic femininity?
@@MNAHN-T.GOF-NN yes. Why wouldnt there be?
Soldiers back then: Crossdressing during wwii for fun
Soldiers now: dying for oil and being scared to wear a dress “cuz that’s gay”
Facts
Lil bro be quiet I bet you gay and you disrespect soliders
@@rb4290 soldiers*
@@rb4290He don't have to respect them. Not everyone goes to war to "Defend the Motherland"
I love the dad. He is such a caring father figure and I almost wish he were my actual dad when i was younger
the only thing that he is soft a bit. if he wont teach son to take a hit - life wiil
He isn't. A boy wouldn't look or act like that without a father being irresponsible.
@@ianstoliarov9140 wdym by that
@@masterbaiter6969 it just happens, like idk how to explain it but it must be a hit of reality, idk xd
@@Brslld "irresponsible" as in not forcing the 'correct' hobbies/clothing/self-expression on his child? I'm glad you ain't my father lmao.
6:59 This smile =)
the dads in this remind me of my own dad a lot and it makes me very happy
7:30 love this portrayal. some jocks are just bystanders who never bullied but also never intervened. the dad is my favorite character
Spiderman 2 reference
Ballet is much harder than you think though. You need physical strength on almost every part of your body to do it perfectly. The ballet teachers are harsh and ballet is very disciplined. It’s the hardest dance to master. I can see that ballet might not seem so masculine but male ballets are muscular too. Just letting you know
Van Damme was a ballet dancer, even incorporated in his fighting technique from the awesome 80s and 90s action movies.
Bruce Lee was a cha cha champ
the kid doesnt seem like that, he looks depressing to me but thats just my opinion
yeah he totally looks very strong that he cant even throw a ball (but in the other hand yeah ballet it hard because i went to ballet course and experienced it)
@@RoxelanaLisowska yah I agree on this video but i don’t think ballet is a good example of something described as “not masculine” because it takes so much patience, pressure and discipline to master it. Not to mention strength mentally and physically too.
why is this actually really sweet
This needs to be spread around the world
The sad part is. The boy is looking forward with his time with dad. He's smiling and shit. It's the father who can't focus on his son.
Someone who fucking gets it.
I mean he's doing alright, nothing spectacular
Yeah, I think the dad is stuck on the idea of how others will perceive them rather than focus on what his son wants to do.
The dad has the right mindset, yet is being led astray to think that being supportive of weakness is okay.
@Mateo What if you're wrong?
I love how progressive this series is. Ivo is masculine in his own way, and his father's just trying to protect him in a healthy manner; not in the way where he aggressively pushes his narrative onto his son.
What I got from this episode is the dad grew up with a very different perspective on what masculinity is, and as the video depicted he was in the Jock clique although he wasn't the bullying type (except that being a bystander doesn't help either). Ivo's from a different generation, and so he doesn't have to worry about what people think of him as he knows himself better than anyone.
Ivo is not masculine at all. Ivo is more feminine
@@hansson2257 He’s masculine by being able to embrace himself and not letting shit others say about him get to him, or the way his dad’s bits of insecurity regarding his (Ivo’s) masculinity reach him. I think it’s admirable.
He’s feminine yes, but the fact that he can let his femininity show and give 0 shits unlike most men is brave.
@@sch2p1dW reply
@@sch2p1d Huge w
@@sch2p1d What shit did anyone say to him?
Seeing this makes me miss my own father. I haven't had any hobbies since my pre-working days. Anymore I just like to watch others enjoy their hobbies. Some of the more unusual ones I've seen were square dancers, LARPers, furries, and Civil War reenactments.
This is amazing, I feel for the dad. I really like him as a character.
I really liked it.
It's kind of ironic that the father wants to protect Ivo from the way HIS BUDDIES (and maybe him) treated the nerdy guy in the past and Ivo just doesn't care about what others think of him, he just does what he is good at
True
Seems like the kid could be into construction or woodworking also I think their relationship is cool as fuck but sometimes parents have to overcome their kid not being a mold of themselves overall wholesome video imo
Ah yes, dying in war at 16. As a true man would
Beta Male
@@SergeantTylerWells your mother
ah yes surviving war and living with severe ptsd that affects your relationship with your loved ones and resorting to drinking to numb the pain. A true man
i would dream to have a dad like that
maturing is realizing this isnt a healthy father son relationship
@@tuneofwindIf you think it's a bad father-child relationship, I'm sorry.
@@kvadratkub054 1. he doesnt respect or support his sons wishes. 2. he tries to force his masculinity on his son who clearly isnt intressted. 3. he tries to make his son do things he doesnt wanna do THIS IS NOT HEALTHY
@@tuneofwind It's like he didn't watch the video at all. He supports him and doesn't impose any masculinity on him. No imposition. He's a cool, loving father who respects his son.
Yeah this relates. I’m 26 and struggled with anxiety and depression.
I nearly failed High School, and but managed to get my diploma somehow after changing schools 3 times. I was a super senior.
I didn’t have any hobbies except video games. I didn’t find anything I did to be “fun.” I tried baseball, Tennis, Soccer, Martial Arts… but I never got into it.
I didn’t have any friends due to my social anxiety. I stayed away from physical relationships, and only made online ones.
I kept jumping between jobs, and got no further education.
When I turned 25, I somehow managed to Enlist in the United States Marine Corps, hoping it would turn my life around. And it did.
No, I’m not a Marine. I failed after a month. But it helped me get over my Anxiety and Depression. And I’m slowly gaining interests outside video games.
Put yourself in extremely stressful situations. And you’ll learn to adapt. Masculinity improves your life. Helps you grow.
Wasn't surprised on your life story after seeing the flag 🤣
@@hansgulayev7320 “The Flag” was after I found my masculinity and embraced my hobby in History.
It will stay in my Name until the Invading Orcs all die, or surrender.
Похрюкай
@@hansgulayev7320 putinist ☕️
@@ivantorojczewko8755 Aren't you suppose to clean toilets in Moscow 🤣🤣🤣
I think a lot of people get this video wrong, right?
It doesn't exactly show that the whole world is going south, in fact it was already pretty messed up at the time. (as can be seen in the father flashback)
It just shows that, nowadays, things are different from before. Instead of always trying to pretend to be something, hoping one day to finally be said thing, people act as they "want".
It's not always a good thing though, 'cause what you want and what you need is often pretty different.
But when you look at it, does the boy have such a bad life? He has a girlfriend, he has an hobby in which he performs. He's a normal guy.
He just doesn't do really physical sports and things that are expected to be done by true "man". In itself, it's not that bad. But the father is also right in wanting to teach his kid those things.
I don't know. I feel like this video is more of an observation than a critique in itself.
Most of these channels videos are pretty much that. Interpretation is up to the viewer. The fact that many people think this is in any way a critique of society reflects they don't like what they see, which at the end of the day, is just that, a man being free and happy to be himself, and his father being afraid that'd get him in trouble at some point.
nailed it
the last scene would more reinforce this idea. he sees himself as a man, but didn't step up to help those in need. in fact, he stood the furthest away, so is that a man, or not?
Gotta be all reactionary though. Lol.
This bro, 100%. Transphobes can't get the message unfortunately
This is actually a nice story
I thought it would be a quick and poorly made meme, but I was surprised by its depth and seriousness 👍
7:32 bro recreated spider man scene 💀💀
YES I FOUND THE COMMENT
The dad loves his son and puts the time in, he just doesn't have a personal reference point yet. He doesn't understand the son's interests, but he supports him anyway, it's the best we can do sometimes.
my personally fav "Masculinity activities" in my young adult age probably are: Ice-hockey, Baseball (maybe), Shooting different gun calliber Members of the youth shooting club
to prepare for the Army, sometimes go on hikings, go out with friends and watch a good movie, and other activities to keep up my mental-health & well-being.
That was a great example of why it's important to voice all of your emotions
Really interesting point of view on masculinity, you don't seem to judge, you just show how things are, how men are different throughout generations, not better, not worse, different. And that is why I'm following this channel, for this kind of things.
Ands that’s just how it should be
They're worse
I'm glad that there are still others not being upset at others for not being exactly like them man
@@skewddle eh, every generation thinks the next is worst, its just how the world works
@@TomoLamp ok but this one specfically is worse and i say this as a 15 yo
Ivos dancing in the first 10 seconds had me fucking rolling lmao
Stop lifting
@@schabowy6149 stop telling people what to do
@@schabowy6149 what's lifting?
@@schabowy6149 I lifted this morning
@@schabowy6149 i lift your mom to bed every night😎😎😎😎
To be honest, I don't understand why everyone thinks that all male ballet dancers are gay or wimps.
Dad: "lets do something"
Ivo: :D
"You need to know that there are hobbies that we might want to do, but people around us wont share the same enthusiasm for our passion. And in some cases, they might ostracize you."
That line hits hard cuz you can tell he's not just talking about other people, he's talking about himself. This was a really mature take on a complicated issue where no one is the bad guy, people genuinely want to help each other, and yet they struggle to understand each other on even a basic level.
THIS
The fact that the son looks more like a woman than his own mother though-
Probably due to genetics. Attractive people breeding with attractive people make kids that look more and more feminine. Plus the mom is old
Why is it important?
@@petkeshade because it's gay af
@@Toxic2T and?
@@meax3685 so what?
Yo hablo en español, pero este video es genial. Ojala puedas hacer mas😊
I just think everybody should do what they want as long as it is not hurting anyone or causing negativity
Impossible 💀
I disagree.
Based
"ItS TEw GaY FOr MY InSecurE MaScULINIty THo!!!!!!1!!111"
Okay, I have to give this one a like because it's relatable lmao
I love dancing myself. My dad always wanted me to be more *masculine*, but I always thought he was too dishevelled and lewd. We still built cabinets together and he taught me to be a car mechanic and going to the range became a fun pasttime. Ironically we even used to play catch except it's actually not hard to throw a ball far, this was very exaggerated xD
I still do *masculine* hobbies like the stuff above, but I also like to cook and clean and make clothes. My bed is covered in stuffed animals. I might be 130 lbs, but I can still rebuild an engine.
I probably wouldn't survive a punch to head, but I survived being crushed by a car that fell off its jacks. I never played football, but I was in the top ten on track day.
Real skill has no aesthetic. You can be strong and soft.
Update: I'm editing this comment a bit because I think I was a bit too harsh on my dad. Things have gotten better between us again like when I was a kid and the criticism he still does comes across more like friendly teasing xD
My dad was not always understanding though, definitely not as friendly as the dad in this video. Especially towards the end of highschool and when I was living with my parents before I dropped out of college. I landed an engineering job and had built up more skills than even what he'd taught me, but he was still critical of me after all the work I put in.
He didn't like that I speak softly and have a feminine figure. He said dropping out of college would ruin my life. He has arms the size of my legs and he used to say I needed to lift weights or I wouldn't make it in life. I wear semiformal goth and emo clothes all the time even when doing dirty work and he criticizes me for not wearing dirty old t-shirts and ripped cargo shorts like he does, and he wears them *everywhere* .-. He also likes to lecture me with conspiracy theories about covid and he thinks it's weird that I don't care for his pin up girls and lewd talk about women lmao
This past year though, I did a head and valve reconditioning on a car and he let me do the work in his backyard and by the end he wanted to help when I was putting the intake and sensors back on. We started the car together and it ran great except I need to replace the O2 sensors still, oof
I also bought him a table top mill for Christmas and he built a big steel frame machine table for me to mount my mill and lathe since I hadn't made furniture yet to use them in my apartment ^-^
I think his criticism is just because he's kind of disappointed with how his life turned out. He ended up being the stay at home parent since it turns out he's introverted? He really wanted to achieve greater things. I never really noticed until I got older and saw him in public more and my mom one day explained he refused to do job interviews. I'm very extroverted on the other hand cx
I really love my dad and I'm sure he loves me even if he never says it and even if he has a complaint about every other thing I do. I have every intent to take care of him now that he's getting older and I hope one day he openly appreciates it c:
If you read to the end of this life story, that's cool lol
W for you my guy
Keep doing what you love
Did you get seriously hurt when the car fell off the jacks? One of those things that always scares me.
Gae
@@Armelier child right here lol
When you realize that all these videos are way better and have a deeper meaning than most of todays animated shows and series.
Or do they?
Not anime
I didn't understand the deeper meaning of this one
@@crusaderdalek3527 it is about men and their psychological situations in this modern generation.
@@karyltiffanyflores explain more
Damn, this is art, man. This is really deep
This video made me feel like going back to the gym and to create a life plan.
I like how chill the dad is. That flashback to his son throwing the ball, was pretty good.
To be fair, those men fought for the right for their progeny to live an easy life. However, a virtuous life is one of hardship and challenge. It is kind of like a catch 22, a man that has experience hardship will be a better man than one that has lived a cushy life. Existence is weird and you have to do what you can to enjoy your life. Femboy or soldier, its your life and never let anyone tell you different.
Better man?
Better in what? Getting hurt? Being poor and hungry?
Nonono, not "enjoy". More of a "do your best" thing.
No they fought because the government would throw them in jail or kill them for refusing. Murdering indiscriminately just because the government pointed and said 'that's your enemy' doesn't make you a strong person
@@whatisaman689 you definetly have to enjoy, otherwise life is completely useless.
My thoughts exactly.
In ye olden days, men fought because they had to. And they fought for peace, for their families and children to live in peace.
Today men don't need to fight, and are free to pursue other activities than "traditionally masculine". I'm not sure why manosphere tries to force that warrior lifestyle at young men.
All that they need to handle crisis is just to learn first aid and some camping/prepping skills and they are good in case of blackout. Maybe learn to shoot a gun, as guns are great strength equalizer.
Nothing else is required.
Also, I am a man that experienced hardships in my life and it didn't made me a better person. It left me scarred and dealing with mild PSTD. I would rather live a cushy life and never had to deal with it.
I love how happy son looks when dad says they're gona do something together
As a person who grew up watching cartoons from the 90s and is a member of the new generation (born 2003), I have conflicting feelings.
I would not focus on the gender of the child, but would simply try to impart useful knowledge, skills, and character traits to him.
I remember when i was growing up, I felt alot closer to my mother than my father. I could understand what mother was trying to teach me because she empathized with me more than my father. Father always tried to teach me technicalities like fixing doors, cars, electricity etc, but because he told it like an adult to another adult, I never understood any of it and just wanted only to play games. Most of the times i felt that my father was disappointed in me since I didnt have the same interests as him, only thing that we had in common was sports, which I liked. But most of the time any hobby that I attended I was bullied because I was different than others, which made me quit said hobby.
These days Im alot closer to my father since Im an adult and can understand the adult language that he speaks. I find that we have alot in common in work morale, how things should be, relationships, opinions and general intrests like beer and such. It took such a long time to really understand my father and where he was coming from, what he had experienced and what he was trying to teach me to avoid or be careful with and which things I should embrace and pursue.
Im the youngest of our family and my father is already about 70 years old, which is is kinda sad that i dont know his exact age. There is only so many years, events, gatherings which we can have together. Im trying to arrange alot of things where Its just me and my dad, so that he can actually feel and see that Im his son. I want to learn more about him, spend more time with him now that we have a common language that we can speak.
I have cried many times thinking about my father and there is a special song to me that just nails that feeling for me = ruclips.net/video/pLzcPChG-64/видео.html here if you want to listen to it
Appreciate your fathers, he is the only one you have. He might not be perfect, he might not understand you and you wont understand him, but he is trying to teach you and be there for you, he is trying his best to help you avoid the mistakes that he has made, to avoid unnecessary painful mistakes. After everything that I have experienced, fights, conflicts.. im still happy that hes my dad.
I hope that nobody has to live without a father or mother or both. But the ones you have, they are the only ones you are going to have.
I could write so much as an answer to this comment to add my own story but I'm just happy someone gets it like it is. Long story short I'm the only one left by my father's side because everyone in our family turned away from him, because they didn't understand what he wanted or what he does and why he does it in the way he does. As the years go by I understand more and more and try to engage with him as much as I can.
My whole life I’ve been with my grandmother, she raised me. When i was a child I didn’t understand why my parents were not together . It just makes me sad that I’ve never engaged with them. But in high school i used to go visit my mother. And the funny thing is she hates my thinking (kinda) and my father well ahhh no emotions. But things are different now, I became what i wanted to be. And btw I checked out the song and i like it :)
I would say more than a essay but I would say it in one paragraph, I always been close to my father than my father but lately I had conflicts with him on his actions on divorcing my mom, he still tries to reach out but I am the one who he can only reach.
But this time my love for him as a father diminished a lot over time knowing he promises a lot yet brings little, I do know to appreciate him at times knowing he cares and hopefully he'll redeem himself as a father to me and my family.
My mother left my biological father because he became an alcoholic, since then she and I lived in a big city in another country and I never get fully along with my stepfather, he may be an asshole but he's the only father figure that I have, he cares for me and wants what's best for me, power to you, brother.
Imagine if the link was a Rick roll
Glad the two of them were able to reach common ground at the end and rebuilt that shed. It really is important for kids to have structure, values, discipline, activities, and positive role models in their lives among many other things.
Who will carry the boats?
More Sebastian lore pls
I am not as that feminine as the kid, but everything else is too relatable, especially the dad
Spend time with him
@@AImighty_Loaf ?
@@iulianmititel3552 what you don't understand my comment?
@@AImighty_Loaf why do u insult him?
Toxic masculinity much?
@@iulianmititel3552 when did he insult him ☠️
I love the story. It's pretty realistic because its not all the time one sided. It's not all the time dads are tyrant and sons arent listening. Both just need time for themselves. I love how the father having empathy and patience and the kid who is actually wants to be teached.
So sad, many of those father and son relationship in real life has a big gap called MISUNDERSTANDING.
It's evolving, just...
... perfectly
this video really hits home. I know a lot of people like this. I am more than happy for those that do what they want too... But I am afraid of people being taken advantage of by others.
Wdym
and yet your prob an anti furry -_-
@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] mf
@Giuszm i have no idea
"I'm more than happy for those that do what they want too." I'm not at all. Actions come at a cost and as evident by the current state of the oh so liberated culture I see more harm being done than good by these people who want to "do what they want to do." Now, that statement is true in the context of small things like getting YOUR favorite food. However, obviously not all situations are small and people make big decisions, selfish or not, at the cost of others all the time. I'm happy for those that do what needs to be done, despite the hardships, for the betterment of others.
Ivo's got some personal development problems but, I think he's a good kid. He actually likes to spend time with his dad.
What problems? Ivo seems fine and happy to me
@@Giobunnyy bro weaker than a 90 Yr old with parkinsons disease wdym by fine
@@nassirarachid1356 lmao
@@nassirarachid1356 he's got other talents maybe. Not everyone is a pitcher for a baseball team.
@@cr4yv3n exactly but I feel if gender roles were flipped not as many people would care, girls as kids are told they are princesses, boys as kids are told what they are supose to become to be good enough
That isn’t “men nowadays” it’s “boys nowadays”
This is a masterpiece.
All things considered, this father has a pretty good relationship with his son.
He let's his kid participate in activities he's interested and tries to be as supportive as he knows how to. He worries for his safety and tries teach him all the stuff he knows and doesn't ridicule him if he makes a mistake.
The son is respectful and always seems overjoyed whenever the father wants to spend time with him. He's open to trying new things the dad suggests and about how he feels without fear of judgment.
Honestly I think the dad simply is worrying to much and letting his friend puts doubts in his head. His kid has a good head on his shoulders and would likely tell the father if anything was wrong.
Then the father can kick their ass
I think their relationship is depressing. The boy is completely void of masculinity and his father is desperately trying to connect with him.
@@danielframe4713
Maybe if you only see it through the dads perspective. The Dad thinks he's not connecting with him but the son doesn't see it that way. He just likes spending time with his father. They have different ideas of what connecting as men is. The father thinks doing manly things is connecting, but to the son, his father supporting and spending time with him is more than he could ask for.
@@danielframe4713 I agree. That kid needs masculinity to survive. Without it he's worth nothing.
Two Chads one Lunar
Your videos are so simple yet introspective. I've been watching you since the beginning (alt acc rn) and ever since its always just been such a insightful and eye opening experience each time. Despite these scenarios being so common and well known its still sk fresh and new to me. Keep up the content man your spectating on society and turning it into art is actually art not just meme stuff genuine art