Vanquish Products VS410 Phoenix Build Highlights
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- The Vanquish Products VS4-10 Phoenix is a pleasure to build! I highlight portions of the build here that are specific to the Phoenix. Please post your build questions below if you have any, I'm happy to answer.
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Awesome job Matt! Found our new Vanquish build guy! Who needs Josh anymore 🤣🤣🤣
Josh who? 😂
Those axles are ooof Nice.
Great explanation of your build!
Thanks for taking the time to share your build.
Dude that cut when you drop the pieces and it’s a completed chassis it AWESOME!!!! I watched it like 8 times I know it’s what you do but damn that was neat. Anyway killer video as always!!! 👍
For a company thats KNOWN for high prices for good quality parts, them putting out a rig in a VERY reasonable price range at around 500 bucks, is just amazing. Vanquish really has grown as a company in the last few years and its fun to see them and watch them grow. Here's to many more very successful years 🍻
Well I talked the wife onboard with getting this truck. What a beautiful kit I’m ready to be able to do some burnouts 🤘🏽
Really interested in this. I haven't ever built a crawler before, just a handful of really fun TAMIYA kits. Great video, very informative, thank you!
Thanks 👍 and thanks for watching!
Picked my kit up at the local (1.4hrs from my home lol) hobby shop can’t wait to build this.
Awesome ! Thanks for the vid Mat, I’m gonna use as guidance for building mine 👌 greetings from Scotland 🏴
Thanks Matt. You are doing Vanquish proud!
Those portals tho👀
I’m tempted to buy the kit just for the comp stance decal alone lol. Great breakdown, much appreciated! May pick one up this winter for a more competition ready platform.
Epic thanks for a great video👍
Picked up my kit at local hobby shop, can’t wait to build it. Paint first lol.
Awsome video, definitely looks like a great kit.
The logos you painted look fantastic. You should do a video about how you design and cut the masks on your Cricut.
This is such an awesome kit. Most likely will have one. Thanks!
Yeah awesome love the new kit, I really love the body too, probably won’t be till summer when I could get one appreciate your sharing as always love all your videos happy trailing
Great job Matt. Can't wait to build mine should be here next week.
A very informative video Matt and Thanks!! Your build is so clean and I hope that when mine arrives I can mimic your tidiness on my build! :-)
Nice video! I liked the format with build highlights and the voiceover. Great work!
done and i love this car, mambaX 2200 kv motorcombo 35kg steering and 12 kg amazon servos, alu horns
Zee 4s 2200mah,and lightkit from nowhere, i spoiled my paintjob but it is a great fun to drive,the steering angel, my first overdrive and DIG funktionwell,done Vanquish
Good video on the build highlights Matt. We've got this truck on our list. Thanks man!!!
Good work man this Pheonix is Amazing
I’m fairly certain that I’ll get different wheels-n-tires when I get mine!
Thanks for posting up Matt!
Cheers
Doc
Nice way to start a Sunday with coffee and SBG... really like that blue you used Matt..
So looking forward to this build. Come on Mr postman.
Cheers mate 👍
i like these build voice over it is very clear, good video thanks
Please put out a video showing the Phoenix with straight machined axles, if only to gauge opinion. I reckon the uptake would be very positive.
This truck kit is so cool.
I'm so stoked about this truck.
Can't wait to get one haha.
Great video man
I mean as always haha.
Also pretty stokes on my tf1 trail stomper find.
Haha
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐👍👍😎
Awesome video. I'm wanting one of these so bad. 😩
Hand model of tha YEAR!! 🤣😂👊🏽 DAMN those portals are GORGEOUS Rc bro ✊🏽Good vid as always 👊🏽
I love that window sticker gosh I need one I got the hat, I will have this Kit but it won’t be till summer
Sooo goooood
I just got my Phoenix kit today
Can't wait for the soa option for the C3 builds.
I can't wait to put this new transmission in my Ultra rig!
Can't wait to get my kit so I can put a hard body on it :)
Okay my kit comes today I'm going to try that chassis assembly just hold it all and drop it on the table and it goes together like that all right fingers crossed here we go LOL! Nice touch.
Did it work?
@@scalebuildersguild it got delayed it's coming tomorrow but I think you know the answer plus one to the Canadians are infinitely better
I’m thinking about buying one of these next week. I haven’t bought a new rc since the scx10ii hahaha
Great choice, enjoy!
Yeah I had so much fun putting my pro together, I watched Josh from Harley designs build video three hours and 45 minutes only looked at the manual for the screw size and the length of the links, after two years few thousand miles never broke nothing until now one bearing went out in the front ring gear I need the bearing retainer because I can’t get the outer bearing race out of the bearing retainer I emailed Vanquish for the part waiting on hearing from them
Awesome video thank you for all the help. May I be a pain in the butt and ask which HW Axe R2 set you recommend 2200kv or 3300KV?
finally a cool add crawler baller nice
Hey Matt just wanted to say I put some Capra axles on a ascender with 2.2 tires and 3S it’s a monster that does not work yet but I’ll let you know when it does
I hope that by watching this video I too can build the chassis like that... BLAM!! its done. Mine is on backorder :-( so lets see when it finally gets to me.
Hey joshy ..!!
whut zup buddy ...!!
As usual good videos bro..
I’m not Josh.
🤣🤣🤣 so who are you bro.....!!?? I get confused
man...
josh for president
Well I guess I gotta buy that too…..
If I can somehow find an hour a week just to crawl I'll let myself buy this kit. Not sure how likely that is. But iBooks like a beautiful build kit.
This kit looks so sexy. I’m really hoping they do a more simplified version (think Trx4 Sport) with plastic straight axles. I’m sure they nailed what the market is asking for with this though.
Great comment agree
Just cannot wait to get mine, well done my friend, for my taste I just want to change the height of the lateral small windows as the rear to match the side one.. do you think is it possible?
Not easily, the indents in the body will make it look weird I think.
Awesome work. I think I need one! Think they’ll make a straight axle version at some point?
Probably!
Great vid Matt, cant wait for mine to get here (UK) what settings are you using in the Tekin ESC?
Stock for now. It comes pretty nicely set up!
@@scalebuildersguild thanks, good to know 🙂
Can you please do a video on your gray scx24 JLU. 14
Hey, man! I recently got into RC and initially got into 1/24. Now I was to get my first 1/10, and I am seriously considering the Vanquish. It'll take some time for me to research all the parts and get everything I need, but with your comments about the manual I am confident I'll manage. I wanted to ask you if you could give me a list of tools that I would need for the build. I don't really own many tools so I would need to get all the tools as well. I don't want an electric screwdriver but need to know the tools for the hex, nut screw sizes, etc.
Thank you! Nice video! I will probably watch your full build once I get everything I need.
Thanks for watching! the Phoenix is definitely one of my favourites, so good choice! As for a list of tools here goes: Pair of pliers, flush cutters, Nut drivers- 5.5mm, 7mm and 8mm, Hex drivers- 1.5, 2.0 and 2.5mm. Everything that is required is listed in the manual. Good luck!
Seems all I'm missing is a couple hex drivers!
So thank you! I'll be sure to tell you how it goes 😬👍
Ordered on the release date. Unfortunately still waiting for it to show up…
Hey Matt, I have finally been able to order one and cant find a clear answer on if the hobbywing fusion will fit? If not what would you suggest for a sub $200 setup? appreciate it and love all your videos on the phoenix so far
Fusion won't fit without modifying. It can be done apparently, but I have no experience with it.
I’m totally sold on the Phoenix being my next purchase. My problem is deciding between the portals or straight axles? I already have a Capra with portals, so I’m used to the clarences and I love it. But a straight axle looks more authentic. I guess my question is, does the straight axle hinder performance any? Love the channel keep up the great work.
Choosing the right line can make all the difference. I prefer the lower center of gravity with a straight axle truck.
Is the paint colour the on point candy blue?
It's too bad they didn't give an option for a two-speed transmission. I feel like that would have made The truck a lot more versatile
A good Brushless setup can do the same thing a 2 speed does. I guess they went for a more technical crawler than a speed truck. 🤷🏻♂️
@@scalebuildersguild Fair enough. It's all compromises. It's a very sweet truck
I wonder how long it will be before we see aluminum knuckles for the Phoenix?
"Lookin decent a". "In my trailer park Boys voice"👌 great job though very capable rig and being vanquish its a solid price also.👏 👍
Good morning sir, just started building mine yesterday. What are the leftover washers/shims for? I noticed yours were left on table also
Additional parts, not required!
can you show the truck with the bed sides removed
Do you anticipate a possible binding issue on the dig, overdrive servos, when the dogs don't align up just right, with no servo saver?
Nope, it's a mechanical keyed system, as soon as the axle moves even slightly, it pops into position perfectly.
The grease looks like blue loctite! LOL!
I’ve got a funny story to share on the next live. Remind me!
Matt, do the metal bearing carries for the axles fit?
To my knowledge, no, they won’t fit. Pumpkin designs are different enough.
Another great video. You said what servos you were using for the trans, but didn't say which one for steering. Is the 3100kv motor good for just a trail truck, or could you possibly drop down kv's?
Yes 3100 is a good middle ground for trailing and crawling. Make sure to go sensored though if u go with 3100kv.... go lower kv if ur running non-sensored.
@@jhawk1985
Awesome. Thank you.
T-120's for shifting, T-440 for steering. 3100 is pretty high for trails only. 2700 would probably be just right.
If you really want to piss off Josh install another one of those servo shock kits. I can't remember the name of the kit bit I think you have it set up on the trekker but I could be mistaken.
Thanks great video
Does the kit come with shock
Oil or what do I get to start with
Thank very much Andre
It does come with 30wt. I used 45wt.
@@scalebuildersguild I know your kit was early but another channels unboxing of consumer kits had shock oil included as was loctite and grease.
The bottle was unidentified viscosity?
Enjoy your weekend mate 👍
@@mickd8188 Yes, updated my reply. I probably instantly tossed it in favor of my own wt. Thanks!
@@scalebuildersguild thanks for including the weight 👍
Hey Matt, great vids bro. I just purchased 2 vs4-10 Phoenix kits. I’d rather straight axles so I’m asking you if I can use 10iii straight axles? If so would I have to change any gearing in the tranny? I know you and josh do all sorts of modifications. Just wanted your opinion. Thx in advance
You’d need to make your own links, and panhard, but I don’t see why you couldn’t get them to fit.
@@scalebuildersguild cool much thx. Yeah Josh video showed me how to make links 😂 I appreciate what y’all do and the contributions y’all have made to rc. 👍
Vanquish has the three links in a kit on their site already for those axles in the 410 chassis kit.
Cheers 👍
Hey man, I'm looking to pick one of these up soon. I have a question on motors. I know that it only accepts 540 sized motors so my question is will my Spektrum Firma 2100kv BL motor fit?
Thanks in advance
Provided it’s a standard 540, you shouldn’t have any trouble.
It rearly looks grate it little shame that u Carnt fir the fusion motor to it but it’s still grate truck if they out when I was getin my 10.3 I would had 1 thinkin sellin it to get 1 but b harder to get as I’m in uk 👍👍👍
If you were in the market for a new Cricut or the like, what would you buy? I have 2 Phoenix kits ordered, can’t wait.
I have the Air 2. I'd go one model up from that if I were to do it over again.
Do you know if they might offer gears to do no overdrive to the front and then shift to have 33% overdrive? Just wondering because I can drive up to 10 miles in a day and having 6.5% overdrive is still hard on everything when going long distance. I only know that because of the element trans that I used. The motor and trans got so hot I couldn’t touch it lol.
Maybe they’ll offer that in the future.
does Vanquish now have their kit manuals available online? I never understood why they never released any when everone else does.
I'd like to order one when it's available but have my cousin ship the axle bag set first.
Honestly can’t say, I haven’t looked.
I'm more or less new to RC and while I love it, I'm also terrified of building one, but I really want to. I just managed to do the straight axle swap on my 10iii and so far, the only thing I think I did wrong was put the engine in backwards! Time will tell though. Has anyone built this kit yet? Is it hard, or could a "beginner" do it? I've learned the hardest part (so far) is having the right tools and learning the vocabulary, never mind the fact that the electrics and battery options are utterly overwhelming! Any help would be appreciated.
It’s perfectly fine to start with. There might be a few frustrating moments, but with these videos to help you through, I’d say give it a go!
@@scalebuildersguild Thanks Matt, very much appreciated.
Anyway to plug the holes if you don't plan to use DIG or on the fly OD?
Yes, VP includes covers if you don't want to run them.
Need that link for the Link tools...
I can not stand doing links....
might pay $10 for prebuilt links.
Carpal tunnel nightmare
Have a Reefs Raw ready for this..
Revolver or Puller Pro is where I'm at.
then some low profile servos...
Doing a Tekno MT410 build now,
and that is a joy to assemble.
looks like this will be a similar pleasure.
if only i had those link tools haha
Added to the description!
I'm building my kit now. After I added drive shafts to the trans. It's very hard to turn them by hand. When I had the trans out of the truck it was very easy. Not sure if that's right or not
I'd suggest a tear-down and start over. There are a couple of bearings that are close in size that if reversed can cause some binding. Hope that helps!
Do these trucks come with Fast Eddy Bearings?
Not that I know of.
Do the shift levers coming out of the top of the transmission move when changing the dig and od position?
Nope, just for show.
@@scalebuildersguild missed opportunity for super scale, lol
Any thoughts on buying this and a SCX10.3 (for the daughter and I) vs buying the SCX6 instead? Which we’d have to share. Been saving for 1/10 crawlers for us to upgrade from our SCX24’s (plus 1/10 2wd buggy’s, SCT’s and and old Tamiya’s we each built). And now we have this option that wasn’t there before. Which way would you go?
That's really difficult for me to answer, as I've got both. There's a lot of aftermarket support for the SCX10III, and with the 6 being so new, there's not as much. Only time will tell.
@@scalebuildersguild how would you compare the experience of driving an SCX24 to the scx10.3 and the SCX6, wondering if we can skip the 1/10 crawler since we already have a few 1/10 and budget won’t permit upgrades for a while either way.
@@andrewdecavia7553 the III will go more places, in terms of trails. The 6 does require a bit more space to truly appreciate it, but honestly, they’re all fun, just in different ways. You won’t be disappointed in the 6.
What motor do you have in your phoenix specifically?
3100kv Roc412
What type of servo arm did you use?
I used the Vanquish servo arm!
Are you sure those gears are sintered? They really look machined to me.
Machined R&P, sintered everywhere else.
Is there slop in those brass tubes?
No. Once the bearing is seated, snug fit.
Does anyone know where he gets his long driver attachments (or what they're called) for those hard to reach places? I haven't been able to find them anywhere.
They're Traxxas bits on the driver.
@@scalebuildersguild Thank you sir! Tackling the straight axle conversion as we speak, all so I could run RC4wd Raceline wheels because they wouldn’t work with the portals. Kind of pathetic, I know! Lol
I can't get the shock collars on heheheh, "full droop" I guess is what I will go with
Give them a good turn, they’ll go on!
Would the new firma 2300 kv fit in it or what would work good
The 2-1’s don’t fit very well, I’m not recommending it.
What would u recommend that's brushless but kinda Budget friendly
Why are there two rings left from the front axle build?
I am building right now and searching build videos to find out what they are for..
EDIT
I found out….they are shims for the diffs…if you need them
They’re bonuses.
how would you compare this to trx build ?
Traxxas’ manual is hard to beat!
Two words over priced
@@jasond1245 how do you figure? Curious to hear your insights!
@@scalebuildersguild easy trx4 sport kit 300 scx10.3 kit 400 its 200 dollars more the trx4 so I guess a selectable overdrive and dig is worth 200 bucks more and with one piece axles and if you look at it compared to a scx10.3 same style of axles but it has a license body with dig and 2 speed so I guess the selectable overdrive is worth 100 bucks by it self not trying to be mean but this is me looking at it logically comparing too other quality kits and I know you like vanquish your friends with Harley designs and I like both of y'all's videos even though he comes off a little arrogant sometimes I just don't see how you can say this is not high when compared to other kits
@@jasond1245 quality costs... don't get me wrong, the TRX4 Sport and SCX10 III are great kits, and good value too - but the Vanquish plastics, metal components, and chassis/transmission design as a whole are a step above. That is what you're paying for - finesse.
Why does it seem the original video had a mysterious audio failure???
It’s a lot easier to record a voice over later, while watching so I can speak to the points I want to cover.
Oh I guarantee they will sale a upgraded metal axles I figure for around the same price they're selling the kit for
List all your electronics Please..???
Tekin RX4, Roc412 3100kv, T-440 steering and T-120x2 for shifting.
If you ever need extra cash. You could be a “HAND” model
By the way, I may have blamed you for making me buy another RC car, I couldn't stop myself after watching this video.
That is awesome!
Sintered gears or machined gears? You said sintered, but they look machined, at least ring & pinion gears did.
R&P are machined, trans gears sintered. Sorry for the confusion!
Ya kit is not what it seems. Don't worry if you buy one you'll find out. Hopefully you get second addition.
Interesting comment… this is one of my favourite rigs… what happened?
@@scalebuildersguild missing part , but vanquish step up and sending free replacement part out. Dissatisfied with shocks as your aware. Its a high price for a kit to run into these kind of problems , bought a lot of cheaper ones with zero issues. Again vanquish made it right, was going to delete message.
Just no.
Vanquish was the top because they never skimp on quality. I'm guessing i would buy the axial raw builders kit over this one.
I'm still building my pro, but Vanquish looses points because of this rig.
I guess that’s one opinion. Not sure how you can think that though. Still a strong upgrade path and a much more affordable entrance to one of the best platforms ever.
@@scalebuildersguild the whole reason I finally gave up the money for a vrs4 was for the axles and the transmission. The rear plastics get replaced, and the bumpers go into the parts bin. Then the truck gets built from there. So, this kit has removed all the good stuff that makes a Vanquish worth the money. If I'm going to throw half of the thing into the spare parts box I'd rather toss cheaper stuff.
I agree with Brian. I have a penchant for machined hardware which is why VP has always appealed to me as a brand. I think it is great that they are offering a pocket friendlier version for the masses, but im going to hold out for a deluxe version. Upgrading would be too expensive for me as I live in Germany (Guten Tag) and getting hold of VP parts is a costly undertaking. Id much rather buy the finished product pay the shipping and any duties and be done with it. The VS4-10 PRO is an option, but i much prefer the features and look of the Phoenix, so as hard as it may be, im going to bite my lip and wait it out.