MSI Z490 MPG Per Core Overclock is Broken? Here's an Easy Quick 10700K 5.2Ghz Overclock - 360mm AIO
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- I'm back in the BIOS attempting a per core overclock, but MSI Z490 Per Core is "broken". Who's to blame, MSI, Intel, Microsoft? I dunno. Anyways, here's a quick easy 5.2Ghz Overclock for the 10700k. This is a continuation of the 5.1Ghz OC video. So watch that one first for other settings I didn't cover here. Not confirmed stable, but an easy starting point for you. I crash at low voltage, raise it .01V and it runs Cinebench R20. That's always the 1st test I run on an OC. I'm just messing around with my toy, so I recorded it. More videos coming. We're going to revisit the Lenovo IdeaPad 3, and I'll show before and after benchmark results since the upgrade. Please leave feedback if you'd like.Still working on my YT skills. I have a long way to go, and I should probably shorten my videos. Sorry about that. I'm not very consistent with my content yet, but good luck with your silicon. Just remember to have fun.
This video does jump ahead a little on settings. Go check out my 5.1Ghz OC video for settings that aren't shown here. I hope to maybe give some confidence to new OCers with these run throughs. There's more coming. I can get more in depth in future videos. My apologies if I started in the middle in this one. Just know, there's nothing scary about overclocking. You just gotta do it. Just make sure you have adequate cooling, and monitor your core, and vrm temps. Do that, and you're golden.
I can’t tell you the last time I had goosebumps from a video, both the part one and two have me shivering. An amazing story none the less, I believe it all
If you want per-core-count OC to work as intended, you need C-States ENABLED! If non of the cores go to idle, the system will always assume that all cores are needed and remain on the all-core clock, which is basically the lowest clock you have set in bios.
hope this is what I'm looking for ... day 3 of searching
Got the same Mobo and cpu but have the 280mm cooler can’t wait to get mine setup and start tinkering
Small tip, the ring eats voltage, if you need to bump up the voltage to insanity try dropping the ring speed. So the pro is you can clock higher maybe, cons you increase latency whats bad for memory oc
180 for a capture card? pshh! just throw a camera in front of the screen. 12k views ez. i like your style smiley
I got mine at 5ghz undervolted to 1.205 v and its stable temp 65c in cinebench r20 with EK Aio 360 i think this is rly good stuff ! While gaming it it stays around 35c-45c at most . I won the sillicon lottery i guess LOL ! Well i bought it almost 2 years ago and I never overclocked it
Friend, I have the 10700k and MSI Z490-A Pro and just got stability with this settings: Per core multiplier 51, Avx Offset -1 (that’s because I work on Revit and rendering on it uses avx), Vcore 1,33V and LLC3. I also blocked power draw at 220W. I’m running it with a Cooler Master ML240L V2 and it seemed pretty stable for every day use and rendering until now. God bless you!
I have i7 10700k and MSI Z490-A Pro motherboard, I'm doing OC 5.0GHz All Core @ 1.33V when I load cinebench r15 my cpu uses 220w. When I saw your video and your settings kinda same as mine, 5ghz around 1.33v, but your CPU only uses ±180w, this really surprised me :) . Any Idea what's going on?
have mine 10700k at stock with 1.123V very cool and quiet :D
I’ve got the exact same board and processor. I have the same problem. It was per core for a while and then an OC failed. I changed my bios settings and now per core won’t work.
Do you still have this board on hand? I noticed that the heatshield above the cpu is loose and im not sure if its supposed to be or not. I read that on some boards its connected with springs or something. I've been having issues with overclocks and thats the only issue that I've found with my computer.
Intel says the max. is 4.7 GHz for all cores- single core can go up to 5.1 GHz and more if you were lucky with your unit. I got my 10700KF cooled by 240 aio, same mainboard up to 5 GHz, benchmark ok, but in the stresstest not stable. For everyday use I am testing at x48 mult. and a bit higher V, but variable cores (!), wich works really quiet, saves energy and when it's needed the first core goes up to 4.8 GHz. RAM is only 3200 MHz: around 1300 single- 13k multicore in cinebench R23, 15k in timespy benchmark result with my 3080 blower in 4K is ok I guess
Does the heatshield above your cpu wiggle?
my 10900k in this mobo doesnt top 70 degrees at 5.1 on a 240mm
That's great! It's a great MB for the $
@@TheSmileyTek crazy good.
@@sagerdood really? What does it top under load
IS it worth OC'ng on this board for gaming purposes since it seems to boost the clock speeds so long as there is thermal head room?
Under heavvy load it will just make all the cores to the lowest set clock ratio. When gaming or doing small tasks my 2 cores run at 5.1ghz.
Enabling Cstates solved the issue for me
Ahhhh. You're the first person to offer a possible solution. I'm gonna give it a shot. Thanks!
@@TheSmileyTek Watched this vid a while ago and I found that on a forum just now and it solved it for me. Good luck! Let me know how it goes!
@@tsanderson4154 Preeshiate it. I will definitely let you know.
Can confirm enabling cstate enables per core overclocking.
i have the same motherboard and cpu, in IDLE without doing anything, the CPU goes to 800MHz or stays at 5000MHz ???
Hello I saw your review for the MPG Z590M GAMING EDGE WIFI on Amazon and would like to ask for your help in finding the drivers for it. I have no idea how to do it
Sure man.. You can get the drivers from the MSI website. Just Google the board you have, go to the MSI website, and click the Support tab. From there, select your Windows version, and click on drivers. They will all be listed there.
Smiley, you putting out the overlocking RAM guide soon?
Wuttup man. I've tinkered with my memory settings a little. I haven't had much luck pushing this Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro much beyond the 3200mhz XMP frequency, or with slight adjustments to the timings. They are definitely Samsung chips though. I could record the steps I took in my attempts though. It's been a few months since I've been able to spend time editing footage. I actually have some time now, so I should be able to throw up a couple of videos here soon. I installed a RTX 3070 last month, and I still haven't edited that video, but it IS coming. I haven't quit RUclips, I've just been a little busy the past few months, and I've also been putting some finishing touches on my recording setup. My apologies that I haven't uploaded lately, but more is coming..
@@TheSmileyTek gotcha! appreciate the guides, helped me alot with my OC.
I recommend going with a faster memory like 4000mhz or more. it's definitely worth it.
No doubt. Just installed a 3070. Might as well go 4400 now. LoL! I've been looking. I'd have to get 32GB for sure. My wife wouldn't be happy, this close to Christmas 😁.
Overclock the kit you have... those are samsung bdie...
The board can support up to 4800 it has an excellent controller. If you want to take hours to tweek your ram its worth it. I have dominator sticks ocd but need some cooling option, i threw a fan on the inside of my rad push pulling if you will with the 308p fe fan there too its keeping the ram coolllld
@@sagerdood 3300 is all I can get with the same CL. Any higher than that, and I get errors during the memtest. I didn't have the patience to tinker with memory speeds beyond that. I plan on grabbing a Crucial 4000mhz or 4400mhz kit after Christmas. Might as well, now that I'm gaming on a 3070. 😁
i’ve 10700K with SP 105. I want to overclock my cpu. Which liquid cooler I have to buy? What do you think about CM MasterLiquid 360R ARGB.
Nice! The Cooler Master 360 cooler would work great. All 360 coolers seem to perform about the same tbh. I have an NZXT X73, and I love it. You could save a few bucks and get a 240mm or 280mm aio as well. They would work great too.
Did you ever just enable MCE and see how that went first I’ve heard that’s bad and makes your CPU run hot
I think MSI's MCE is called Enhanced Turbo. I have not tried it out by itself, but I definitely will. I'm curious now.
Did they ever fix the per core overclock? For some reason, it still does not work on MSI boards for me....
Doesn't look like it. Still a mystery to me. Works with Intel XTU software, but can't be set in the BIOS... 🤔
Enable Cstate coach and it will work
I noticed the same when I input 4.2ghz all core but it was not going past 4? 😶 Wut Dee faqk
Were you able to come up with a solution? I am having the same problem.
Yes, enable C-States. Should work then. I just so happened to be getting my daily RUclips fill when you commented lol. Has to be my fastest response time 😁. Let me know if enabling C-States works for you as well.
@@TheSmileyTek Thank you so much, have wonderful day!
@@TheSmileyTek I enabled c states but unfortunately overclock still not working although showing in bios
why do you need to bump CPU io voltage?
To be honest. I always push the IO voltage up a little if I'm setting a 4.5Ghz + overclock. With the XMP profile and the CPU pulling more power for higher frequency, I've always thought it a good idea to offer more to the IO just in case. Just my personal "standard practice".
If you still have that stupid msi dragon center installled it is notorious for screwing with your pc and many people have claimed it will undo their overclock and override it, that's why anyone who is more than a casual user doesn't install the board vendors garbage malware software programs 😂
Sorry should have kept watching the video, you figured it out 👍
Yes, it will override overclocks if you turn on any of the "performance modes". I only use it to change up my case RGB colors. I just keep it for that purpose alone. To each their own. It's all good. I'm not scared of it. I haven't had any major negative impact. Antivirus, now that's something I'll never install. They're all garbage. 😉😁
My videos are terrible lol. It's been a while since I've uploaded. I've been so busy.
my z390 mpg gaming plus was easy to manipulate game boost as boost worked per core going up to 5.0 single core with my 9700k once game boost disabled with xmp on emmediately set desired per core overclock and on my i7 9700k i got it up to 5.4 for core 1 / 5.3 for core 2 and 3 / 5.2 fore cores 4 and 5 and 5.1 for the rest it only worked outside of avx workloads cinebench r20 would run 5.1 and r15 didnt like it score was in the 1700's this was at like 1.44v get to the cpu temps were over 90c with 280mm aio and a/c blowing on it lol
i got cinebench R20 6333pts.............5ghz.................1.3V.......running air cooler............temp hit 90+.....MSI Z490 Unify
What cooler do you have? Just curious.
@@TheSmileyTek I using Noctua NH-D15...............I change the 1400+ fans to 2000rpm model.........it become more stable
Nice! That's as good as it gets with air coolers.
if you have more than mine at r20=5450 show us your geekbench.i have the best at 5.1 i knowbrowser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/4842839
@@TheSmileyTek he is sick.this score is 10900k at 5.2
Got 5274, with your old setting at 5.1 ghz
@ 1.33v
That's awesome! You have an excellent piece of silicon there.
Definitely mine is only stable with 5.0 ar 1.33 and even then it’s not AVX2 small data stable just gaming/large data stable
I’ve got 5160 points on R20 with 1,33V and 5.0GHz
i recently brought i7 10700k with gigabyte 3080 master and msi z490 -a pro for my gaming pc. but i am getting fps drops and not the performance i was expecting. example i am getting 300 to 198 fps drop in valorant. i dont know much about overclocking but can u help me what might be the problem. both my cpu usage and gpu usage are low while playing.
Super sick setup! I like it. I have a 3070 and I love it. I haven't been able to find a 3080 for msrp yet. It's so hard to say what it could be without having my hands on it to try and replicate. But, Valorant, is a multiplayer game that may have hiccups due to your connection to the internet. I'd suggest trying "local" campaign gameplay (a single player game) to see if you get dropped frames or stuttering. Or run Time Spy, or some other graphics benchmark to see if your results are typical to other results. Going off of your example, if I were to try to attribute the issues to something. I'd take a wild guess that it may be due to temperatures. Have you adjusted your GPU fan curve? GPU performance "efficiency" is directly tied to temperatures. What CPU cooler are you using. How much RAM do you have? If 2 sticks of RAM, are they in the correct slots? Just a few things to check into. Let me know, I'm curious.
@@TheSmileyTek thanks for reply
but i dont have any network issues
i have deepcool castle 360 aio rbg vs, 8 x 2 ram 3200mhz.
i am currently running at 4700 ghz as it comes out of the box. i tried to overclock all core to 4.9 , 5.0 , 5.1 with Intel(R) Extreme Tuning Utility and i also tried overclock in bios but in both ways my cpu temp is going above 95. so i set all my setting default right now, this is my first to trying overclocking. can u give me any suggestions. do u think the fps drops because of bottleneck of cpu ?
also my gpu is gigabyte 3080 master. it has best cooling.
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when i tried to overclock or using same settings as you the core temps going nearly 90c to 92c. even in aio fans are at full speed.
@@yashxd5910 Those are your gaming temps? Is your cooler making good, even contact with your CPU? I hate to ask this, but did you remove the cover from the CPU cooler plate before mounting it (I've heard of people forgetting so just checking)? Are you locking the voltage to about 1.325V to 1.33V? If yes to those questions... Hmm. Temps are directly tied to voltage, and if everything is installed correctly, it may just come down to your specific CPU. Some run higher V without putting off as much heat. I'm learning that my CPU may not be typical. I think I got a little lucky. My gaming temps max around 62C and average about 54C. I do not think your CPU is a bottleneck. It's plenty of CPU. Running Cinebench (if you're using it to benchmark) will push your temps up high in short bursts, but it should level off after a little bit.
@@TheSmileyTek am getting those temps while stressing cpu or using cinebench. Max temp 91 at full load
Ah ok. That seems totally normal to me. Mine stays a little cooler at load, but I think you're good. And the fps drops may be typical too. As long as you don't notice stutters you're good. I would turn on vsync if you have a vsync monitor. Unfortunately your fps is only as good as your monitor's refresh rate. For example, if you have a 240hz monitor, 240 fps is perfect. If 144hz, 144fps is perfect. I game on 1440p at 144hz, and I'm happy with 140fps in a multiplayer game at 1440p. I play Modern Warfare maxed at 1440p and hover right around 145 to 150fps. My 3070 is about 20 to 30 fps higher than my 2070 Super was in MW maxed.
how low can you get the voltage with 5.0
1.325v seems to be the sweet spot based on my last round of tinkering. I have a feeling I could go lower. I plan to finish editing the last video I shot, this weekend, and maybe I can record my attempts to push the voltage as low as possible at 5Ghz. I did get lucky with this chip. It seems to be a golden sample. I've had zero issues. The NZXT aio has also been amazing. Temps are excellent. My 3070 is being dropped off tomorrow, so that's gonna be something I can add some content with. I got super lucky yesterday, and actually was able to checkout on the Best Buy website. I tried to get a 3090 and a 3080 on their release days, but I had no luck on those.
Cool now my PC won't boot. Thanks.
Turn the pc off and unplug it. Take a screwdriver, or something metal and touch (bridge) both pins at "JBAT1" for about 10 seconds. Then turn it on. This will reset your BIOS. This is very common when overclocking, and these boards are designed for this. It's all good, you didn't break it. Page 39 of the users manual. manual-hub.com/manuals/msi-mpg-z490-gaming-edge-wifi-01-pdf-manual/
@@TheSmileyTek okay, thank you!
@@David-mg5jx No problem. I've done that same thing a few times. I freaked when it got stuck in a reboot loop, but I shorted those pins and it booted every time.
Only way you'll damage your mobo/cpu is if you set voltage too high.