@@weih723 Oh nice! Was considering a liquid cooler and was curious on how well it would be for the 10850k mobo/cpu. Wonder if I wil get anywhere close to that with the Noctua air cooler.
@@grdfhrghrggrtwqqu 10850k Is probably even harder to cool than 10700k that I have, I am not so sure about air solution but Noctua is a beast of a cooler though. btw I have to dial back to oc to 5.1 and memory down from to 4100mhz. (from 3200mhz) to be fully stable.
@@weih723 hi, can u tell me more about difficulties to cool the 10700k? Am planning to do a config with that cpu and the Unify and i really dunno what AIO is the best for it (kraken/Arctic/...??) and what temps are good/not good. Ty :)
The power stage current limit comment was spot on. To expand on it, the packaging is also a major limiting factor. Powerstages with metal top should be able to handle close to double the current despite the advertised max with sufficient cooling. Same with traditional lo/hi fets... Remember the radeon 7900/280/290/390 managing not burning up the vrm.
1:38 "not using a standard fan connector" Anyone who's taken apart a few laptops will know that is a standard fan connector. They are by far the most common for laptop fans (and smaller fans in general). I'm sure it's a standard termination for whoever the fan OEM was. I was surprised with the EVGA dark PCB using a connector that large for a fan that small on the x299 dark. You can easily use a fan there by getting a broken laptop out of the dumpster, cutting the fan cable in half, and soldering it to your fan of choice. Or buy a cheap Apple MBP fan. Apple used these on macbook pros since 2009 before moving to a FFC connector in 2016. Note that due to the size it will not support high current fans. So don't go tossing on your 10K RPM San ace and expect it to work. Edit: I haven't double checked the part numbers, so do your own research before buying a fan to cut up.
Question: When people state their stable OC Vcore or what is considered a safe Vcore. Is that at load or at idle? 1.35 Vcore for example means nothing without mentioning LLC, static or adaptive settings.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking hi bz, what do you think about this situation in relation to your recommended pbo values or manual overclocking? this info is from the stilt. Maybe a video? www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/explaining-the-amd-ryzen-power-reporting-deviation-metric-in-hwinfo.6456/
The voltage read points are nice to have for someone attempting to repair one of these boards 10 years from now. I agree they won't be used all that often, but I wish every computer part had features like that.
Hey buildzoid,l I have a 2080 TI Kudan limited edition, Gamers Nexus suggested you were going to do a PCB breakdown on it, I could send you a pic of the PCB with benchmarks if you wanted to do a breakdown on it.
I have this board and its great! Paired it with a 10700k and yes, I did get the Patriot Viper Steel 4400hz which run XMP perfectly. Evga P2 1000W, m.2 Samsung evo plus and waiting around for the nVidia 3000 series with a 2060. My 2060 is finally getting a workout coming from a i7 4790k! Lets play some games!
@@robertdunlop5247 Wow . By random I did order today the same: this board , i7-10700kf, Patriot 4400Mhz ,and I have a 1000w PSu ...... Now that our RIGS will be virtually the same (you did'nt mention the cooler , I've got a Kraken 73 360mm AIO) may I ask what kind of overclock could you do ?
Odd q for you -- how does the 4C029N/4C024N mosfet combo compare on Vcore to DrMos chips like those on the MSI z490 Tomahawk or ATX Gaming Edge Wifi? I'm curious because MSI chose to use that discrete mosfet combo in place of DrMos for the mATX Gaming Edge Wifi Vcore, which is sad that they named the board same name, but different VRM setup on the mATX vs ATX versions....
23:23 "back of the board capacitors are not that effective because they have a bunch of impedance between them and the actual CPU socket itself" The impedance of a via is not that much (under one milliohm per via, and there's a lot in parallel), but they will have a lot more effective ESL from the via that they are in series with (at least 1 nH). This will have a greater effect at higher frequencies. Since the power and ground vias are pretty close, that effect is mitigated somewhat. I'll see if I can measure how much via ESL effects bypass capacitor effectiveness using TDR at work soon.
I have considered buying this board for my new build. Fantastic review! It has exactly what I want and at the right price point. The bios profile deletion issue and transient response issue regarding cpnstruction behind the cpu he mentioned is giving me second thoughts though. Im only a little tech savy so I'm not certain if this would pose a major issue not knowing how often this happens and why it occurs. Maybe it is as simple as msi putting out a bios update idk.
48:00 but we all know you'd trade it for more usb ports. Being one of the only people who uses two internal 3.0 headers AND 7+ rear io ports (I get it though, my M8I is kinda limited, and I do notice that esp since my front panel has 1 of the front ports busted)
maybe the VRM overheats when doing testing using a overclocked 10900K, blowing the hot exhaust on the VRM, in a 40° ambient room No iGPU is a pretty big deal breaker for a daily system. Adobe uses quick sync and nvidia simultaneously nowadays, for example. The iGPU is also really useful for debugging and virtualization. For XOC, it makes sense to leave it out, but for anything else there has to be an iGPU phase.
still hope to god B550 will replace B650, it's going to be almost one gen to late! feel like they need to just jump to B650 and have it out on day 1 or just have B550 so good B650 is skipped/not needed
Hey guys i have a question, in order to calculate the amount of heat that is going to be dissipated with descrete mosfet i use some formulas like: Conduction Loss(High side and low side) + Switching loss + Dead time loss + gate charge loss, in total i know the amount of heat that is being dissipated through each phase or the entire VRM. But how do i calculate this in a Dr.Mos or a Smart power stage?
Is it normal temperature for a i9-10850k idle 34c gaming 55c 100% load 92c? Msi z490 unify g-skill 32gb 3600mhz CL18 cooler master ml360r aio test done on cine bench r23. 1.34v LLC2 5ghz all core
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't keeping the VRMs cool increase its lifespan? So even thought they are operating well within temp limits, wouldn't good VRM cooling be a benefit in terms of reliability and longevity?
MSI realized that some of motherboard reviewers will test VRM temperature and use it as a critical factor to define which board is good. Therefore, a fan could bring advantage in thermal tests.
:( Mine was paired with a 10900K previous year but upgraded my system to a 13700K this year and sold the 10900K. I did have a 10600K lying around and 4x8Gb 3600Mhz mem so when watching this video I now know I have a Silly combination >
Isn't the 10th gen Intel CPUs able to pull a ton of power, with some overclock results show things like the i9 10900k pulling 250+ watts. In those cases, the VRM may need a lot of active cooling.
This is all good and all but once i went with workstation motherboards i have never looked back. Chek out the asus WS z390 pro. Feature packed! And actually uses the whole pcb board. There is most likely a ws z490 at as well.
Any thoughts on the ITX? Still waiting for mine to come in, and looking to pair it with some hynix cjr vlp so that it will fit in my sff (cooler height issues with push/pull 120mm?). Do you expect the ITX to perform as well in the ram oc arena?
What board would you recommend for a 10600KF? Is there an affordable one with good memory OC capabilities but just adequate (budget) VRMs and features?
Hey man, nice vid! One question regarding the double cpu 8pin though. I just got this mobo + a 10900k which I plan on NOT oc’ing, just use the default turbo. Do I still need both plugged in? Thanks mate
@@kelvinyonger8885 👍 Best would be to compare same cpu sample on the Unify and a mobo with good transient response. This would probably determine if the unify got a garbage transient response or not. Are there 300ish motherboard with good response?🙄
would you recommend this board over the z490 mpg gaming edge wifi. I got that for $179.99. While this one I can get it for $259.99. Please let me know if the jump is worth it. I will be running an i7 10th gen unlocked with rtx 2060. Please let me know. Thanks
This board has already failed as a daily driver for someone like me. It's a solid board with great design but why would anyone except extreme overclockers buy an Intel board that doesn't support Quicksync? I'd get the Maximus XII HERO instead
I had to RMA a gigabyte z490 aorus elite board, and while waiting on replacement I decided to switch to refund, and bought this board instead for my i7-10700k. Anyone have any suggestions for what timings to start with for 2x8gb g.skill flare-x (b-die) 3200mhz cl14 kit? I was thinking 4000mhz cl18 to start @1.5
I don't care for POST codes, if you know what you're doing then troubleshooting with a POST code is just going to lead to bad diagnostics most of the time really
Maybe in the past but this board is really good at saying whats it's doing....and the manual isn't too bad either. The board has ran perfectly for me with 4400mhz Viper Steels.....I guess theres a case of if you don't know what you're doing then don't do it. lol OR just do it and see what happens. Try try try again.
could it be better rating VRM power stages by Rds(on) rather than using the absolute maximum continuous drain current figure.. which btw doesn't mean much with vrms as it's pulsed and pulsed specs are listed differently on a dedicated table? also i'm really curious about how the hell you do power dissipation calculations. :)
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking . oh sorry I didn't know, I mostly saw mosfets and I expected the same. I'll have a look at a power stage datasheet right away. :)
@@kelvinyonger8885 driver losses should kinda be doable for mosfets uaing gate resistance, driving voltage, gate coulumb value and maybe something else. LTSpice spews out absurdly high values.
Guys, I have a question: I've been overclocking my memories (G.Skill Trident Z 3600 CL17) I've gotten my kits stable at 3733MHz at 1.4v and while running the built-in benchmark of "F1 2018" HWinfo showed my temps were 52°C in one kit and 50°C the other kit. Can someone tell me if this is normal?
14 seconds, and already a what the hell, lol. 300 dollar board, and all ye could spare was seven USB plugs, there is still blank space on that IO panel for 4 more, what gives, lol. (/sarcasm) all the plugs would have been nice, however, I guess 7 is better than 5.
@@emperorSbraz Well, MSI expects you to be able to be able to connect the headers to the front of your case. I have this board, and have and extra 2 USB and 1 Type C ports there.....So that kinda solves that issue. BZ maybe didn't think about that.
Like you should like cut back on the like use of the word like. It is like not like needed and is very poor for like someone that does like RUclips videos
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Awww BZ draws a heart over the Safeboot pins :)
4:21 how cute, he drew a little heart around the jumper
Everytime you said "If youre Sub-Zero.." I just imagine the Mortal Kombat character overclocking
MSI have been killing it recently
What better than hear buildzoids voice at 3 in the morning ☺️
like, like like like like - take breath like like like etc!
His voice reminds me of watching Sesame Street.
3:34 in the morning now 🥱
Actually bought this board from this channel's info, and currently sitting at 5.2 with 1.36V, can't complain!
What cooler are you using? That's awesome!
@@grdfhrghrggrtwqqu Kraken Z63 :D
@@weih723 Oh nice! Was considering a liquid cooler and was curious on how well it would be for the 10850k mobo/cpu. Wonder if I wil get anywhere close to that with the Noctua air cooler.
@@grdfhrghrggrtwqqu 10850k Is probably even harder to cool than 10700k that I have, I am not so sure about air solution but Noctua is a beast of a cooler though. btw I have to dial back to oc to 5.1 and memory down from to 4100mhz. (from 3200mhz) to be fully stable.
@@weih723 hi, can u tell me more about difficulties to cool the 10700k? Am planning to do a config with that cpu and the Unify and i really dunno what AIO is the best for it (kraken/Arctic/...??) and what temps are good/not good.
Ty :)
They're putting a fan on things because you seemed happy about the fans on the X570 Impact and X570-I Strix. I seriously think that's the reason.
The power stage current limit comment was spot on. To expand on it, the packaging is also a major limiting factor. Powerstages with metal top should be able to handle close to double the current despite the advertised max with sufficient cooling. Same with traditional lo/hi fets... Remember the radeon 7900/280/290/390 managing not burning up the vrm.
RUclips’s subtitles.
Hi Guys Builds Lloyd here 🤦🏼♂️
Bill Zoid was 1 or 2 videos ago...
I think if he calls himself that next video the subtitles will be correct. lol
I like the small rear IO on the PCB :) .
1:38 "not using a standard fan connector" Anyone who's taken apart a few laptops will know that is a standard fan connector. They are by far the most common for laptop fans (and smaller fans in general). I'm sure it's a standard termination for whoever the fan OEM was. I was surprised with the EVGA dark PCB using a connector that large for a fan that small on the x299 dark.
You can easily use a fan there by getting a broken laptop out of the dumpster, cutting the fan cable in half, and soldering it to your fan of choice. Or buy a cheap Apple MBP fan. Apple used these on macbook pros since 2009 before moving to a FFC connector in 2016. Note that due to the size it will not support high current fans. So don't go tossing on your 10K RPM San ace and expect it to work.
Edit: I haven't double checked the part numbers, so do your own research before buying a fan to cut up.
@@SteveZ1 I have the same question ^^
Ended up picking this board for my build and certainly not disappointed.
There's a fan because since reviewers look at VRM temps and people buy "the best", they need to have the best temps no matter how useless it is.
First
2nd
man, why are you always so fast?
@@LinkStorm13 because he's HARDCORE!!
@@deminybs DISRESPECT YOUR SURROUNDINGS
Question: When people state their stable OC Vcore or what is considered a safe Vcore. Is that at load or at idle?
1.35 Vcore for example means nothing without mentioning LLC, static or adaptive settings.
Doesn’t come with the fluffy. I’m out
Nobody:
LIterally nobody:
Mobo manufacturers: So anyway, instead of putting proper heatsinks we decided to slap a fan at it.
I mean, look at something like p8z68 deluxe - it has all the gamery, flashy looks while still having decent surface area.
>Anime profile pic
Opinion discarded.
@@user-pf9rf3sr1q FAX
except this board doesn't even need the heatsinks
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
hi bz, what do you think about this situation in relation to your recommended pbo values or manual overclocking? this info is from the stilt.
Maybe a video?
www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/explaining-the-amd-ryzen-power-reporting-deviation-metric-in-hwinfo.6456/
The voltage read points are nice to have for someone attempting to repair one of these boards 10 years from now. I agree they won't be used all that often, but I wish every computer part had features like that.
Hey buildzoid,l I have a 2080 TI Kudan limited edition, Gamers Nexus suggested you were going to do a PCB breakdown on it, I could send you a pic of the PCB with benchmarks if you wanted to do a breakdown on it.
One jumper = the best board nomination :))
Other B550 motherboards first impressions video?
I have this board and its great! Paired it with a 10700k and yes, I did get the Patriot Viper Steel 4400hz which run XMP perfectly. Evga P2 1000W, m.2 Samsung evo plus and waiting around for the nVidia 3000 series with a 2060. My 2060 is finally getting a workout coming from a i7 4790k! Lets play some games!
Also, I have 2 USB connections on the front of case and a Type C. I am not sure if that option was covered.
@@robertdunlop5247 Wow . By random I did order today the same: this board , i7-10700kf, Patriot 4400Mhz ,and I have a 1000w PSu ...... Now that our RIGS will be virtually the same (you did'nt mention the cooler , I've got a Kraken 73 360mm AIO) may I ask what kind of overclock could you do ?
Odd q for you -- how does the 4C029N/4C024N mosfet combo compare on Vcore to DrMos chips like those on the MSI z490 Tomahawk or ATX Gaming Edge Wifi? I'm curious because MSI chose to use that discrete mosfet combo in place of DrMos for the mATX Gaming Edge Wifi Vcore, which is sad that they named the board same name, but different VRM setup on the mATX vs ATX versions....
MSI MAG Z490 Tomahawk soon? ❤
23:23 "back of the board capacitors are not that effective because they have a bunch of impedance between them and the actual CPU socket itself" The impedance of a via is not that much (under one milliohm per via, and there's a lot in parallel), but they will have a lot more effective ESL from the via that they are in series with (at least 1 nH). This will have a greater effect at higher frequencies. Since the power and ground vias are pretty close, that effect is mitigated somewhat. I'll see if I can measure how much via ESL effects bypass capacitor effectiveness using TDR at work soon.
About sub-zero, I have heard of people running phase-change or TECs daily, though the VRM seems like it'll weather it fine.
I have considered buying this board for my new build. Fantastic review! It has exactly what I want and at the right price point. The bios profile deletion issue and transient response issue regarding cpnstruction behind the cpu he mentioned is giving me second thoughts though. Im only a little tech savy so I'm not certain if this would pose a major issue not knowing how often this happens and why it occurs. Maybe it is as simple as msi putting out a bios update idk.
48:00 but we all know you'd trade it for more usb ports. Being one of the only people who uses two internal 3.0 headers AND 7+ rear io ports
(I get it though, my M8I is kinda limited, and I do notice that esp since my front panel has 1 of the front ports busted)
Nice call.
maybe the VRM overheats when doing testing using a overclocked 10900K, blowing the hot exhaust on the VRM, in a 40° ambient room
No iGPU is a pretty big deal breaker for a daily system. Adobe uses quick sync and nvidia simultaneously nowadays, for example. The iGPU is also really useful for debugging and virtualization.
For XOC, it makes sense to leave it out, but for anything else there has to be an iGPU phase.
Wiating for the GB B550 ITX rant, need one for my ITX build
still hope to god B550 will replace B650, it's going to be almost one gen to late!
feel like they need to just jump to B650 and have it out on day 1 or just have B550 so good B650 is skipped/not needed
Supermicro dropped a Z490 motherboard and I'd love to see you check it out.
Hey guys i have a question, in order to calculate the amount of heat that is going to be dissipated with descrete mosfet i use some formulas like: Conduction Loss(High side and low side) + Switching loss + Dead time loss + gate charge loss, in total i know the amount of heat that is being dissipated through each phase or the entire VRM.
But how do i calculate this in a Dr.Mos or a Smart power stage?
Is it normal temperature for a i9-10850k idle 34c gaming 55c 100% load 92c? Msi z490 unify g-skill 32gb 3600mhz CL18 cooler master ml360r aio test done on cine bench r23. 1.34v LLC2 5ghz all core
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't keeping the VRMs cool increase its lifespan? So even thought they are operating well within temp limits, wouldn't good VRM cooling be a benefit in terms of reliability and longevity?
MSI realized that some of motherboard reviewers will test VRM temperature and use it as a critical factor to define which board is good. Therefore, a fan could bring advantage in thermal tests.
Great video and channel. People are snatching up mobo's faster than they can be stocked on Amazon. I can't order fast enough, lol.
:( Mine was paired with a 10900K previous year but upgraded my system to a 13700K this year and sold the 10900K. I did have a 10600K lying around and 4x8Gb 3600Mhz mem so when watching this video I now know I have a Silly combination >
So what you're sacrificing with the Unify for the feature set and the current-handling capabilities of the VRM is looks and transient response.
MSI's X570 Unify is the best 300$ motherboard :P
Couldn't run to the Unify so got the Vision G. Fancied a bit of bling with my 10600K build. Came with a free 480Gb SSD too (from Scan).
Nice! Thats a pretty decent deal then.
I got a free ryzen der8auer offset cooling kit with my 10900k from OCUK...which was weird but cool.
@@skoopsro7656 LOL Have to buy a Ryzen now !!
Isn't the 10th gen Intel CPUs able to pull a ton of power, with some overclock results show things like the i9 10900k pulling 250+ watts. In those cases, the VRM may need a lot of active cooling.
imagine knowing this much about motherboards
Great commentary!
I have this board and can go up to 4533c17 without much of a problem. 4266c16 works like a charm for daily.
been looking at this board for a z490 upgrade from z170, thanks bz.
Make sure you consider B450 too.
@@kelvinyonger8885 intel b450?
@@kelvinyonger8885 I don't want a zen 2 cpu, they are quite attractive, but I really like overclocking.
This is all good and all but once i went with workstation motherboards i have never looked back. Chek out the asus WS z390 pro. Feature packed! And actually uses the whole pcb board. There is most likely a ws z490 at as well.
What are these stitches for? (18:09) or rather do they connect powerplanes with eachother? or some weird frequency thingy with holes?
Any thoughts on the ITX? Still waiting for mine to come in, and looking to pair it with some hynix cjr vlp so that it will fit in my sff (cooler height issues with push/pull 120mm?). Do you expect the ITX to perform as well in the ram oc arena?
Would you recommend this over the Asus Rog Strix z490-e?
Yes. I got the Unify instead.
Please b550 tomahawk carbon breakdown
Can you show us the oscilloscope measurements? Would be really interesting
for Z390?
Could you do a z490 APEX ram over clocking with the 4500mhz cl18 kit
Any plans to go over the Gigabyte vision G?
Just bought one from Scan and got a Gigabyte 480 Gb SSD free, nothing special, but hey it's free.
Too many variables picking a good board...Gave up and ate a sandwich
This, the Vision D, and the Pro Art from Asus are the top contenders for the best $300 board imo.
the vision D uses an ECC memory topology that clocks significantly worse.
Actually Hardcore Overclocking Well I’m thinking more along the feature set side then just memory overclocks.
I wonder just what is the real difference between this mobo and the ace. Other than price and rgb
Which ITX model would you chose for a SFF build with 10600K, MSI MEG Z490I Unify or Gigabyte Z490I AORUS ULTRA?
btw can you take a look at ASRock Z490 Extreme4 ? it also uses ISL69269 VRM controller, but also being a very cheap board.
What board would you recommend for a 10600KF? Is there an affordable one with good memory OC capabilities but just adequate (budget) VRMs and features?
I'd get this board.
tomahawk
Do you use the new A1 bios over reviewers A13?
Good question. Do you the board?
Hey man, nice vid! One question regarding the double cpu 8pin though. I just got this mobo + a 10900k which I plan on NOT oc’ing, just use the default turbo. Do I still need both plugged in? Thanks mate
You would need two at the top to the psu don’t worry about the one at the bottom :)
@Buildzoid my 10900k can do 5.1ghz with as low 1.2v on this board, is this makes a good transient response board?
Since it clocks depend on CPU, you would need to test the same settings on other 300ish boards to see.
@@kelvinyonger8885 👍 Best would be to compare same cpu sample on the Unify and a mobo with good transient response. This would probably determine if the unify got a garbage transient response or not. Are there 300ish motherboard with good response?🙄
would you recommend this board over the z490 mpg gaming edge wifi. I got that for $179.99. While this one I can get it for $259.99. Please let me know if the jump is worth it. I will be running an i7 10th gen unlocked with rtx 2060. Please let me know. Thanks
please suggest mobo for the 3d rendering for i7 10700k in range of 300$, any reply will be welcomed...
MSI Z490 Tomahawk any time soon?
Buildzoid- MSI Unify or Gigabyte Aorus ultra?
I think it’s more unify vs gigabyte master
I'm hoping for a video on the Aorus Ultra as well. I'm interested to see how it handles memory in particular.
ok the no-igpu is stupid on this not OC-only oriented mobo
This board has already failed as a daily driver for someone like me. It's a solid board with great design but why would anyone except extreme overclockers buy an Intel board that doesn't support Quicksync? I'd get the Maximus XII HERO instead
not everyone does video encoding.
Should I set maximum values for switching frequency of CPU/SoC VRM?
that vs the Strix E looks very interesting. although i prefer the Asus Bios and would buy a hero anyway.
Are you being serious? The unify is a much better board. This is why e wry is went bat shit crazy when it came out for x570.
Asus will make you pay $100 more but still not give you these features
This two are my Favorites and I have to decide. Its a very hard decision because they are very similar, but I think I prefer the MSI
@@NovaDoll Not in Germany, here are both Boards around 300€
Lukas P. The unify is better offers more features for the price.
What about Z490 E from Asus? They cost the same.
Does having a smart power stage actually improve overclocking compared to dumb ones like IR3555?
IR3555 is smart power stages though and was the best mosfet until the 70A/90A spawned
Z490 Ace dont support igpu too?
Nope it’s same board as unify minus the rgb and the intel lan
Anyone counted how long he’s held his breath while talking?
I had to RMA a gigabyte z490 aorus elite board, and while waiting on replacement I decided to switch to refund, and bought this board instead for my i7-10700k. Anyone have any suggestions for what timings to start with for 2x8gb g.skill flare-x (b-die) 3200mhz cl14 kit? I was thinking 4000mhz cl18 to start @1.5
I don't care for POST codes, if you know what you're doing then troubleshooting with a POST code is just going to lead to bad diagnostics most of the time really
I do like being able to see the post code patterns when I'm trying memory oc and it fails to train.
if a POST code makes you mis diagnose things you're just bad at trouble shooting.
Maybe in the past but this board is really good at saying whats it's doing....and the manual isn't too bad either. The board has ran perfectly for me with 4400mhz Viper Steels.....I guess theres a case of if you don't know what you're doing then don't do it. lol OR just do it and see what happens. Try try try again.
Buildzoid, can you do a Z490 ITX and/or mATX round-up?
MATX is easy. just get a 490-G
I have silly question : Is it an option to solder by myself in rear IO 4-slot USB port by unsoldering that 2-slot?
Why not just connect your front case usb like everyone else on the planet?
Please do breakdown of EVGA Z490 Dark
please do memory OC review on the aorus master!!
Spectacular!!! Can you review the MSI Z490 MEG ACE. Thanks a lot for this king of technical information!
could it be better rating VRM power stages by Rds(on) rather than using the absolute maximum continuous drain current figure.. which btw doesn't mean much with vrms as it's pulsed and pulsed specs are listed differently on a dedicated table?
also i'm really curious about how the hell you do power dissipation calculations. :)
He made a video on it. It doesn't account for driver losses though.
Power stages don't come with RDSon specs
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking . oh sorry I didn't know, I mostly saw mosfets and I expected the same. I'll have a look at a power stage datasheet right away. :)
@@kelvinyonger8885 driver losses should kinda be doable for mosfets uaing gate resistance, driving voltage, gate coulumb value and maybe something else. LTSpice spews out absurdly high values.
MSI has the floofiest of cats confirmed. It had to inspect the board for any CATastrophic errors.
good shit m8
When Gigabyte B550 please?
Guys, I have a question: I've been overclocking my memories (G.Skill Trident Z 3600 CL17) I've gotten my kits stable at 3733MHz at 1.4v and while running the built-in benchmark of "F1 2018" HWinfo showed my temps were 52°C in one kit and 50°C the other kit. Can someone tell me if this is normal?
Yes.
Who are you , Enginer or somthing ?????????????
Why don't they use standard fan headers for vrm fans?
IDK
14 seconds, and already a what the hell, lol. 300 dollar board, and all ye could spare was seven USB plugs, there is still blank space on that IO panel for 4 more, what gives, lol. (/sarcasm) all the plugs would have been nice, however, I guess 7 is better than 5.
Use your cases front USB connectors?
@@robertdunlop5247 i agree
You got your mouse keyboard and headphones how many fricken usbs do you need
this or xii apex?
No surface mount tantalum capacitors unless godlike msi?
godlike uses SMD alu polymers
Not everybody uses 30 USB ports like you do. You have to realize this.
Fair point when it comes to backplate USB when there are lots of internal headers available to use
a 300$€ board with lackluster USB ports is insulting especially since the added cost is almost nothing.
@@emperorSbraz Well, MSI expects you to be able to be able to connect the headers to the front of your case. I have this board, and have and extra 2 USB and 1 Type C ports there.....So that kinda solves that issue. BZ maybe didn't think about that.
not bad price ;D
Alguem vendendo a maximus xi apex?
please b460m board
Hola
video long 😢
B550?
Check community tab. You really think he's gonna skip a mobo launch? Come on
You really think it was serious?
Day 2 of asking for a DFI motherboard video
Hello there
Hello?
GENERAL KENOBI
Like you should like cut back on the like use of the word like. It is like not like needed and is very poor for like someone that does like RUclips videos