Angry Pilot Lines Up Too Close
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2023
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Malaysian Airlines A350 lining up close to British Airways A320
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I had no idea that there was such a thing as runway road rage...lol
just runway rage , there is no road there
It seems like roadrage except that airplains can't see behind them, so there's no way to for the lead airplane to have any clue what the airplane is doing behind them, but then I thought maybe the road rage is being directed at the tower controller for being to slow since the controller would see what we are seeing in the video the the road rage pilot would be well aware the plane in front of them can't see anything behind
That proximity could lead to malfunction or defect of some instruments or plastics / paint. I suspect someone lost his job because of a traffic incident..
@@forgotten_world I doubt anyone lost their job. The biggest risk is foreign object ingestion.
“Testosteroni overload”?
It had never occurred to me that one of the risks at takeoff might be FOD from someone dropping their phone over the side of a balloon basket. This channel is an education.
Exactly what I thought...
It's an aircraft too. Someone could also drop a phone while taking a helicopter ride, lose a GoPro off their little Cessna or have something fly out of the cockpit when taxiing with the doors open for air. I imagine balloons are considered like submarines are in terms of right of way: everything gets out of their way.
Never mind a fecking cellphone - these fellas were BUNGEE JUMPERS!
Booooiiiiinnnnnngg - aaaaaarrrrgh - stretchhhh - splat; ingested into a airliner jet engine!
FOD? whats that
I was thinking more about the fire going out *weeeee smash into plane*
That line up looks like a group flight in Microsoft flight simulator 😂
It does😂
LMAO 🤣
Back in 1991 I bought a PA38 in Akron Ohio and had to fly it to Columbus for crating and shipping to the UK. As I don't hold a US licence I had a company pilot with me. No problem, until I asked him to suggest a course to Columbus. His reply was "Just follow the interstate like everyone else"
Then he reminded me to keep to the right in case someone is coming the other way. Just in case I chose an oddball height as well, 1650 feet.
Yes we arrived safely and the PA38 is still flying today.
Isn’t that a common joke between navy and airforce pilots ? T
He navy have to be better at navigation since they cannot use highway signs to know where they are going….
It's not super shocking if you're only flying 1600 ft in a PA38. That thing is like a car from the Flintstones.
@@rixxy9204 Expensive whistles and bells I don't want or need.
That Bhutan pilot sure made a perfect touchdown 👌🏻
It was sweet right?
My dad used to fly light planes in southern California the 70s and I flew quite a few times with him. One day we flew from our home airport at Chino out to Catalina Island just off the coast from LA. To get there we had to fly over LAX, the safest path was right across the centre. Even though all of the aircraft around us were off to our left, right or directly below he told me to keep my eyes peeled for anyone else doing the same thing as us from the otehr direction.
Pretty amazing seeing LAX from directly above !
I would have thought that airspace to be restricted to aircraft using the airfield, unless he had ATC permission. Lucky you, either way! t. non-pilot.
Edit: Disregard. From commenter “photonsfromthesun” below; "LAX in los angeles has a route that GA aircraft can take to get across the airspace without controllers guiding you and you just fly directly perpendicular across the middle of the runways and the lowest option is only 2500 ft above the runway! You can look up "how to fly vfr over LAX" its pretty cool”. Cheers!
@@jayhache5609 I was going to say "It was the mid 70s" but it seems that it is still currently allowed, thanks
I think Aviation101 has a video of him doing this exact flight.
Cool story!
As a controller now, a lot of times the easiest place to put transitioning planes is right across the field since everybody else is landing or taking off
When you are in a rush and ur standing in a queue but the person infront of you isnt in a rush :
Found you
@@EggsAviation nice
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@@EggsAviation aha
Omg
I really respect people who are in a hurry and need the rest of us to get out of their way, they are such a help to society.
As people that pretend everyone behind them must stay behind because they are selfish and slow like a snail with mental illness!
A hurry never is good in aviation.
In aviation, safety always comes first
I have a saying for that. “But it’s me”, you can almost hear them.
You should. Everything you have and take for granted is because of those people. Have you contributed anything back to their lives?
Wow that Japan Airlines landing was more like a roller coaster! Bet that was an experience on board.
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Legend has it a sheriff's helicopter landed next to him on the taxi and immediately gave him a ticket for road rage
- That's what you call a proper TAILgating 😛
That was Arkansas State Troopers and just before the cameraman started filming they performed a perfectly executed P.I.T. manoeuvre on that MAL A350!
Never knew there was such a thing as a 'sheriff' in the UK lol
How do you know the pilot was angry? This channel should be writing the headlines for the Sun or Daily Mail...
yeah puts me off too, a bit annoying childish approach to these headlines.
Saw this live on BJTV no evidence of anger at the time.
As a decades aviation professional I do not have automatic faith in airline pilots and I see this confirmed every now and then, but that Butan guy showed exceptional skill greasing that thing in after a difficult approach. Absolute joy to watch!
They have very common extreme wind and weather conditions, and in that sense, people who work in those conditions come out typically as better pilots just by pure experience. I've seen so many people in modern airplanes just jump for the autopilot without fully appreciating the plane, it makes me sad.
Joke's on the Maylasia Airlines captain. He's begging for jetwash damage and a return to gate.
shameful act, his license should be suspended. this make me think twice to fly MAS, more expensive national carrier
Just what we all want on our flight, an angry, impatient pilot.
It’s very common practice at many airports to line up planes behind departing planes to increase the take off rate. Especially if there’s a heavy, they may line them up at the beginning and have multiple smaller planes take off in front as there is a larger separation time if they were to let a heavy go prior to smaller planes
@@argh._ It is NOT common...
You haven't got a clue and are obviously not a pilot. ..And never will be...
True???
19 passengers died in minnesota because a pilot had anger issues. He was intimidating and insulting his co pilot throughout the flight and then during the landing the 25 yo co pilot was afraid to speak up and therefore did not call out the altitude and the plane rolled then crashed. it was an episode on mayday disasters. very informative show
@@onetransam1998 I saw that episode I think the captain was a sociopath
Great video as always!
Paro airport in Bhutan is a fun place. Not sure what it is like now but when I flew in the Druk Air Airbus some years ago, pilots just navigate by following the river valleys. I met an Airbus training pilot from France who was there to train the Bhutanese pilots, and he said they were great. I asked if there was room at the head of the valley for a go-around - he said there was supposed to be, but nobody had tried it so far! I believe they can only land in the mornings there, due to the winds between the mountains. And they close the road at the end of the runway when anything is coming in to land . . . just in case!
The JAL 777 was a go-around in windy weather - perfectly good flying skills imo. I once was an Air France flight into Heathrow and the plane was dipping its wings often and correcting all the way to the runway. The passenger beside me said ‘French pilots!’ He was wrong. The correcting was the sign of a good pilot. He did not want to land on the grass. lol….
The Buhtan A319 passes in my book. That looked pretty darn smooth.
This episode is the best one yet!
What amazes me is how the 350 dwarfs the 320.🤯
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The balloon video is one of the best I have seen. It is not kinda cool. It is just great to view takeoff from above. Beautiful sound too.
The A350 lining up behind the BA aircraft was because of weather. ATC sent many aircraft down 27R. I watched it live on Big Jet TV
"Because of the weather" he was stupid enough. .
You haven't got a clue. ..
You are obviously not a pilot.
So why comment? ???v
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That Malaysian Airline pilot should have his license revoked.
The pilot was probably looking for the klaxon in his cockpit ! :-D Thanks again for these great videos 🙂
Excelent as always
That butan pilot is amazing, that’s such a hard landing to do
Why is a hot air balloon allowed anywhere near an airport?
That was my question too!
its not like it decides where it wants to go
Probably for the same reason balloon pilots get tested over runway and taxiway markings - they are aircraft.
Balloons are like submarines in terms of right of way. Everything must get out of their way.
@@DUKEisALIVE Exactly they go where the wind pushes them and can't be controlled in any meaningful way.
Were the bungee jumpers in the hot air balloon considered to be in "off limits territory" since they were literally flying over a takeoff/landing strip? Just curious! Cheers From The Clouds In Ohio To ALL Who Fly The 3MOA Skies!
probably but it was sweeden they kinda make there own rules as they go
@@roobear78 Sweeden is actually spelled Sweeeeeeddddeneneneeneeeneenenenenenneeeeeeeeeen
I imagine they had enough vertical separation for VFR.
Hot air balloons have right of way over powered, heavier than air, aircraft. It looks like a smaller airport so if the cargo plane is departing VFR, then this would be fine. That being said, I bet the balloon pilot was a bit stressed!
I found it counter intuitive but the air space about a mile directly above an active runway is usually the clearest and safest, on either end of the runway aircraft can be at all sorts of elevations but right above the runway they are all much closer to the ground I think most go arounds happen much lower than a mile high which this Balloon seems to be. LAX in los angeles has a route that GA aircraft can take to get across the airspace without controllers guiding you and you just fly directly perpendicular across the middle of the runways and the lowest option is only 2500 ft above the runway! You can loom up "how to fly vfr over LAX" its pretty cool
Great video!😸
Did you hear the communication between control tower and pilot and how did you determine the pilot was angry ?
At airports like LHR and LAX they sometimes give line up and wait clearance immediately after they give t/o clearance, before the a/c in front of you has begun their t/o roll, and they can get tetchy if you delay your line up and wait instruction. That move was still very inappropriate, unreasonable, and risky, but it might have been a misguided attempt to do something out of respect or obedience, or out of fear of losing their slot because of close approaching traffic. Not the strongest likelihood, and none of those are excuses for that move, but we don't know what we don't know, and we don't know what motivated that pilot.
@@beenaplumber8379 pilot was me, i needed to t/o immeditaly and get auto pilot rolling so i can take a shit
The line up at Heathrow was because there was a runway change and all jets were being moved to alternative runway due to heavy storm about to hit airport. The jets were not going to take off
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Ikr. Pretty sure they only move after they have received instruction from the tower
Yeah I figured it must have been something like that.
That is not true. The BA jet took off and then the Malaysia took off. I watched it live on Big Jet TV on May 7, 2023 (from which this video came from).
No matter what the situation was at LHR , It’s not safe to do that … risk of damage to the aircraft. Small hole in the fuselage, damage to the angle of attack indicator etc … and who knows what could have happened to the aircraft.
The 757 takeoff view from the balloon was cool.
I saw that first clip on Big Jet TV live
I’m just asking myself: what were the Malaysia Airlines A350-900 pilots thinking when lining up literally behind the taking-off British Airways A320? And what were the reactions of the other planes, especially the other British Airways A320 waiting to take-off?
No pilot in their right state of mind would even think about entering a runway without ATC instruction. This type of manuever is done all the time at busy airports. Line Up and Waits are given before the departing aircraft even begins their rollouts. Plus this is an A350, the wake from the A320 is like a baby pushing an adult. It doesn't affect anything.
@@SEAAviator
What about Jetblast blowing onto the nose of that A350 at full power?
@@SEAAviatorIt affects! You are absolutely wrong! During taxi we maintain minimum 50 m distance from aircraft in front! In case of line up we maintain a minimum 200 m distance from aircraft taking off!
@@kaesarromanova1876 What type do you fly?
@@SEAAviator A330
The Malaysian Airlines A350, in i think Manchester or Heathrow, i was watching it live when it happened. (i frgoot the yt channel) and apparently he got a talked too before he took off.
Ah the famous Bhutan Airport^^
Terrain, Terrain, Pull Up, Pull Up, Bank Angle, Bank Angle.
That EasyJet landing was HARD!
Back to the Sim after that one I think!
@@hamsterminator back to Ryanair
That JAL looked like it might have come out just as stable, if not more, if it had completed the landing
That was one dicked up mess. Once on the ground, LEAVE it there. OK, MeppyMan, I'll play. 34 years of flying these things including the B777. Look at the video again. At 59 seconds you see the VASI lights, so I do in fact know how far down the runway they were. The 777 has astonishing brakes even at heavy weights. You can stop one easily in 5000 feet. So I seriously doubt the available runway was the issue. Moden fadec-controlled fan engines do not need "spool-up time". You can be in the flare and power out of a landing with ease, especially when at much lighter landing weights. After all, this plane can fly on ONE engine with 300,000 more pounds of fuel onboard than this was one carrying while flying on two. Speed? Not likely an issue since the landing speed is approx 20-30 percent higher than the stall speed. Once you cobb the throttles, any low airspeed problems you might have will go away FAST in a triple at landing weights. And, what's the procedure for a Go-Around? "Going-Around, TOGA, Flaps 15, Pos Rate, Gear Up...." Did the flaps ever retract on the Go? Nope. The plane was over-controlled and all over the place from flare to GA. I'll stand by my opinion. That was one dicked-up mess.
yeah.. they could have just put that nose down and the landing would be fine.
Too far down the runway and probably too fast. Go around
@@lbowskyou do realise that they likely made the decision to go around before they touched down. It takes time for the engines to spool back up and airspeed to increase. You also have no idea how far down the runway they are, or their speed,or anything else that might have contributed to the decision.
I hope you’re not an airline pilot, but if you are I’d love for you to correct me.
@@MeppyMan I'll have to agree with Ibowsk, the pilot was not good. Ok, it's fine and I'm sure he wanted to play it safe by doing a go-around, and yes we don't totally know all the details, but just by looking at the landing you can clearly see that this pilot didn't really know what he was doing. Watch the Bhutan airline pilot and see the difference.
Kennedy Steve warning the very perplexed crew of a quantas a380 or 747 about the prop wash of cessna in front of them was one of the funiest atc calls
That first clip, they were informed the active runway had changed due to wind shear, it was a traffic jam of planes heading down the runway to other end.
Are you suggesting this channel puts misleading sensationalistic titles on its videos to get clicks?
Good point.
I don’t think that’s true, the A320 was obviously taking off from 27R
I guarantee this was not an angry pilot. Probably given clearance to line up and wait behind departing airplane. Most pilots would wait a bit to maintain more clearance.
@@spinglobe1 ALL professional pilots would not do that.....
The clearance is AFTER THE DEPARTING....the preceeding aircraft was STILL THERE.
Malaysia Airlines have an appalling safety record and culture.
You can see why !
Only 3 SAFETY STARS OUT OF 7.
Fact not opinion.
Not my sort of airmanship and no professionalism. .
@@daftvader4218you always like to pretend you are a pilot, but you always make mistakes and show you are not.
In Europe, you can indeed receive a clearance to line up behind another aircraft and both sit and wait. The preceding traffic is getting an intersection take off.
Having said that, this was a bit close, most pilots would’ve waited a bit.
The guy in front should've brake-checked him.
I can only imagine that airspace directly above the airport is probably a class B, and would be closed to GA traffic unless cleared through, however since it is a hot air balloon I don't guess there's much that anybody can do about it. They are kind of at the mercy of the wind !!
For large airports, having the VFR traffic passing over right in the middle of the runway is the least disruptive scenario. It won't interfere with the departures or arrivals. That's what they generally want us to do when we request to cross their CTR with a small plane.
But to have a balloon do exactly that, you need a good crosswind ... and a bit of luck for the trajectory to make it work.
I don't think you meant 'angry'. You meant 'mad' as in that's crazy of the A350 pilot.
0:28 I love how the a350 looks annoyed and the a320 has a “waddid I do” face
That first clip is literally me playing Unmatched ATC
Would be interesting to hear the ATC recording, you need clearance to line up on the runway from the holding point.
Also highly illegal. Britain is weird.
BEAUTIFUL VIDEO
that JAL landing had someone very aggressive on the controls - that nose up was also very abrupt
Wrong., that was very skilled. Instantaneous reaction and counter. Fighter pilot instincts likely kicked in on that pull up, but he insured to gain speed before performing that manoeuvre. In any case very safe despite the 'show'.
@@ahm_767 there is ZERO need to perform agro maneuvers - unless the ship is heading towards a collision (which its not) - in a LOW energy state this is a BAD IDEA
at least not as bad as the malaysian airlines pilots
Late flare, excessive rate of descent. Control input is needed to counteract gusts, etc.
Put down the crack pipe.
Just don't take a flight with a cut-corner airliner!
That was too close for a taxi let alone a line-up!
2:20 Something's wrong with that hot air balloon - it's not moving at mach 3!
There's no evidence that the pilot was angry, or that this is an example of "runway rage". Seems irresponsible though, for sure.
Rough ride inside that Japan Airlines flight.
I really like to hear the ATC audio from the first clip...
Jeez, I thought the wheels are going to come off of that easy jet. some abuse they can take.... good videos thank you.
Malaysian Airlines should not attempt to go just behind A320 . The jet blast can create physical damage to A350.
JAL: Attempts drunken landing. Not quite! Better go around. [*hic!*]
Taxying to close is a great way to fill your air intakes with the exhaust from the aircraft in front. Your passengers will not be amused. Neither will the ground staff who have to replace the filters.
Aiy yo I was watching that Big Ket TV stream
0:30 He still won't get clearance to take off until the wake turbulance interval time is over - so not gaining anything by lining up so close.
Thanks for that...
You know what your talking about..
Not like these ignorant armchairs.
When I worked in ATC at LHR, I once saw a Gulfstream G5 get a cracked windscreen from a preceding departure from debris because it was too close… The Malaysian Airlines Capt should be in the office for a “Chat” about that line up …. 🙄
You're the ATC one mate. You're the one who should've reported one of your colleagues who directed the MH A350 onto the runway instead of the pilot
@@Kuricang31 Line up AFTER the departing aircraft. ...
That is the clearance. .after the departing ......BA had not departed.
Nobody expects an idiot to line up that close....not the sort of appalling airmanship and professionalism that that is expected.
Listen to those plane spotters !!
You are obviously not a pilot....
We’re not gonna talk about Air Force 1 in the background of the Easyjet clip? 😂
It's kind of fun that an EASYjet plane made such a HARD landing. Ryanair, hold my beer!
2:13 Intrigued by the stack of planes on the left.🤔
Just looked at the airport in google earth and they're already there. Ten twin turboprops in total. If I had to guess I'd say they're all Saab 340.
I will be on an MH this Monday and this video gives me baaad feeling.
That training touch and go by the Bhutan pilot was superb, all Easyjet pilots can learn from that.
That's kind of crazy that they'd allow a balloon of bungie jumpers to operate directly over a runway like that. What if a landing aircraft needs to go around? What if the bungie jumpers drops something onto the runway? Please tell us where this insane place is so that we can know to never go there.
edit: according to comments in the source video, it's Örebro Sweden. It would appear that they were just passing over the airport rather than jumping there, but there is still the danger of something falling out of the balloon. Nuts.
I found it counter intuitive but the air space about a mile directly above an active runway is usually the clearest and safest, on either end of the runway aircraft can be at all sorts of elevations but right above the runway they are all much closer to the ground I think most go arounds happen much lower than a mile high which this Ballon seems to be
chill.
You're so full of it, take an exlax
Do you think balloons have some means to steer? They don't. Other than changing altitude to possibly catch wind going in a different direction, they have no control of where they go. This is well known. Balloons have the right of way. I guarantee you that the airport knew they were going to overfly the airport well in advance and planned accordingly.
I once was clrd to cross CTR over treshold of the runway. There was a landing a320 and the atc gave them the clrc for go-around "in case of GA left turn 020 due to traffic crossing the treshold at 2000ft." So i think everything is possible even if its not standart. Maybe this example cleares it;)
la prise de vue depuis le ballon est juste incroyable et rare !!
That's crazy indeed. FAA wouldn't allow such a close line up. He probably got his butt kicked for that lol
Never seen a formation departure with regional sets.
Lol I was on that malaysia flight from london to Kuala Lumpur
I bet the Japan Airlines passages were terrified from that.
what a wild ride lol. especially that take off when you have zero idea what is going on. Hopefully the pilots verbalized the maneuver
@@sirus312I'm sure they did. But I hope they kept the mic off.
*passengers
Japs have hentai and manga. They have seen worst
This is BIG JET TV materiał, why you hide their logo?
Malysia airlines pilots may had suffered temporary hearing damage or worse with their nose almost in the engines throttling to takeoff blast. The loud thunder HURTS even with well-insulated windows.
Well it was not brain damage...
Nothing to damage! !!!#!
He’s a plane spotter - he likes to get close. lol
Typically a pilot is told to “hold short” before being given permission to enter runway. Even if the controller was mistaken or rushed, the pilot shoulda have known better than to incur.
No. Please do not talk about things you do not know about. Heathrow operates on an MROT philosophy.
I obviously can’t hear what was said on radio, but even MROT says to “maintain safe separation”. I’ve been flying mostly helicopters for 20 years, and mostly in the US, but I just can’t imagine being directly behind another jet during TOGO power would be considered safe.
Paro airport.......stunning!
Aerosucre… where have you been??
I always thought the following aircraft would not be cleared onto the runway untill the departing aircraft ahead was clear of the runway? Or is safety optional nowadays?
And what about a serious engine stall? Causing compr/turb blades damage. jetblast BA will disrupt normal airflow intake
The 350 behind the 320 poses NO concerns, it’s done ALL-THE-TIME, only difference with this clip, is a hobbyist that knows nothing tries to make something out of nothing because you saw it happen and haven’t a clue about what goes on when you’re not there to observe.
Besides, it’s completely up to the 350 PIC to accept the clearance to line up and wait behind the departing airbus, it had NOTING to do with anger or otherwise.
On first story would that be considered sky rage or runaway rage.
MAS shines as ever.
Back in the day, the rule was only one aircraft on an active runway... Oh wait. 😉👍
This rule never existed, conditional clearances allow multiple trafic on the active
@@hyrrokinfamily i agree, years ago i was on an 747 waiting to take off right at the start of the runway and an easy jet plane turned onto the runway a few exits in front, maybe a few hundred meters in front and went first
@@charlesjay8818A few hundred metres is fine, this is 20 metres
Line up and wait at holding point was blown up for that pilot.
Can the hot air balloon be subject to wake turbulence from the plane taking off ? (likely distance to great but question)
Is that considered as a deviation?
The MAS pilot: woi tak nak take off ke ey pilot ni
Haha😂.. Tehegeh hegeh, meh kita cocok dia. 😂
Kat jalan pun duk cucuk2 apatah atas runway lagi 😂
The Tenerife plane crash was caused by a bad tempered pilot in a rush
2:10 we need more of these types of videos
perhaps the too close runway pilot will get a rock blasted through his windshield to knock some sense into him...
That Malasian Captain needs to be taken to task over that incicident. Absolutely stupid.
Vcs miajuda a ter um milhão de seguidores
Ya know with kind of luck Malaysia Airlines have had you would think they would just do the job right...
What the heck with the Japan bird? he was already almost committed
that one was interesting to watch
The JAL landng is a nice example of overcontrolling the FBW