I don´t get it. Like, where´s the connection? I´ve watched Episode 3. Why do I not understand the joke here, whereas over 350 people apparently do?.....
Not sure if this has been said before, but the whole "solving the mystery didn't matter" comes from Japanese horror tropes. The idea is that the supernatural world doesn't act like the regular world, and has its own rules. Generally, in Japanese horror, once you have the attention of some supernatural force, you're doomed. You can't escape or appease the force in a way that makes any sense, it at all. Solving the ghost's mystery and saving yourself is an Western trope, while Japanese horror focuses on the impotence of man in the face of the supernatural. Also, in the sequel in Japan, the lead from the first movie is revealed to still have died. (Also the same in the book, if memory serves)
I always found that the idea of surviving coming with the cost of killing someone else to be one of the things that made Ringu, and by extention the American remake, so powerful. It forces the hero to step into very moral ambiguous territory. And the idea that understanding Sadako/Samara would be enough to kill it/her, doesn't hold much water anyway. Sadako is evil, the kind of evil that propagates by contaminating others. This idea of Ring as a virus is more fully expressed in other Japanese entries to the franchise and is crucial to the novel. And speaking of Ring 2, I was at a meet up with the director, Nakata, who did the first Ringu. He explained why Ring 2 is such a mess. Apparently, it was a severe case of studio meddling. Studio representatives would drop by mid-shooting and if they saw fit would veto an entire scene, replace it with another, or change it until it bore no resemblance to what Nakata had in mind. He said it was so bad he nearly walked out and returned to Japan and only stayed on for respect to his team. It was hell to shoot and convinced him never ever to shoot in the States again. I think the cicadas thing in this movie may be a weird and very misplaced reference to the first movie in the sense that in Japan, the cry of the cicada is supposed to mean that tragedy is about to strike. That's the only explanation I can think of and it still wouldn't make any sense as cicadas never even feature in the Ring.
There are so many notoriously bad movies that can be explained by horrible studio interference, it's actually amazing how often that's the case. I think it shows most directors and writers are truly capable, it's execs who know nothing about this stuff practically that cause problems.
@@BriarPatchNyra same with video games fallout new vegas would have had multiple times the dialogue, content, items, backstories, weapons, armor, and so much more if they had more time to put it all together and yet it's still seen as a masterpiece that says something considering how much the PC version crashes and save files bug out people blame them but in reality it was the publishers fault granted they gave them a deadline at the start but that doesnt make it better since people seem to forget you can extend a deadline it wont fucking kill the sales if it's a good game or movie it's better to be a good game or movie released later then a bad one releases now that will be remembered as a piece of shit
So many GREAT points here! Only thing I disagree about is the Sadako part (only partially). Apparent you haven’t seen “Ring 0 Birthday”, prequel to Ringu 1998. Sadako was just a REGULAR girl who was innocent, sweet not guilty. But she was born with half demon blood (rumored her father was a sea Demon). So she had a twin..an evil twin. Instead of killing her, they could’ve gotten her help to stop them from binding together. Once Sadako was killed, ALL those ppl did was trigger the bad side. So really, I blame the ppl. Also the Ring HAS used bugs before (flies) just not the cicadas. It wasn’t a bad idea to me but the execution seemed random so maybe it could’ve been left out So SAD they barely let Hideo have ANY creative control. So embarrassing . I’d be HONORED to work with him and let him do whatever the heck he wanted. I get that almost ALL franchises jump the shark eventually, but the US Ring could’ve been a solid trilogy if they made the right choices
@@lessismore8533 I have seen it, but the books make Sadako pretty much pure evil. In fact, Sadako is not even a girl, at all, but has no actual gender.
@@Nocturnalux Tbf, even in the novels she wasn't "pretty much pure evil." The reason she became that was because she was raped by a doctor, thrown in a well and sealed in it by him. Before she died, she'd vowed she'd get vengeance on the world for what had happened to her. Also, during the doctor's assault, Sadako had bit him and contracted small pox from him which mutated within her and became the "ring virus." So post-death she was "pretty much pure evil" but in her life she definitely wasn't. Literally an onryo template, basically.
in japanese lore, there is no escape from an onryo. none. so solving her little mystery is just a cruel joke making you think there is a way, but there is not. HAHAHHAH
There is if you can find a powerful enough onmyoji and have him exorcise the onryo. But I guess those would be scarce in the US. And never call Kagome's grandafather!
Can't remember the name of the movie that was in. Wasn't it the one with the alien invasion with what's her face Russian named chick from kickass? I know the names of both but I'm drawing a blank at the moment... I hate when that happens!
TD-Billy-89 No I already knew and I prefer not to look up things I already know, I just couldn't think of them at the time. It's the fifth wave and Chloe Grace moretz. Just a momentary brain fart I guess
What I really want to know is what if you just show somebody the video who is going to die anyway? "Seven days," tough girl I'm dying of leukemia tonight. Curse ended.
What happens if you digitize the tape and put it on RUclips and it gets watched by a million people? Do they each have to forward it to somebody? Or do they have to download a copy of it and then show it to somebody? What if you import it into an editing program and export it as a PNG sequence? Would you still be cursed if you look at the PNGs?
Dr Shaym Hmm not sure but it seems that there are a lot of holes in the plot. (BTW found your channel a year(?) ago from 36 dumb questions for men or something like that, your really cool)
SPOILERS FOR THE NOVELS In the novels it’s a virus. The copying didn’t really save you unless you did it to new media (ie writing a book about the experience, or copying from the vhs to RUclips etc). Which only worked for the person who did the new media thing. Also in the novels Sadako (Samara) is using the online videos in order to impregnate women to make Sadako clones in order to take over the world. Hope that helps
The whole tape copying thing was lost in translation from japanese to english adaptations. In the Japanese one, Sadako (Samara) wanted to be an actress, so that her memory would live on forever, but died before she could. That's why the tape is so important, and showing it to someone else breaks the curse, because you're spreading her memory to someone else
I wouldn’t say “lost in translation “ but part of me would maybe. The tape copying thing for Sadako is an ANALOGY for how she wanted her acting career to go, and therefore acted as (tragic) foreshadowing. Though Samara is her OWN character and has a different back story, they still could’ve given Samara her OWN unique foreshadowing leading up to her making the tape. The “lost on translation “ part has to do with her not getting a prequel like Sadako did. Yea we’ve seen flashbacks of her backstory but Ringu also had flashbacks but we STILL got “Ring 0 Birthday” that showed how everything started. That’s why the Japanese Ringu had a SOLID 3 movie trilogy. The USA version could’ve TOO if they made better decisions.
4:50 I've always seen 'The Ring' as a commentary on sensationalism in media. There is a moment in the movie when Richard Morgan says 'What is it with reporters? You take one person's tragedy and force the world to experience it … spread it like sickness'. I find it really interesting that nothing that she does actually ends the curse, because I think that what the movie is trying to say is that the way in which the media treats crimes (trying to give the public all the details and information) doesn't stop the thirst of the public for more sensationalism.
That’s a coincidence. His line just references the cyclical nature of the ring, and Samara (Sadako) forcing everyone to experience what she suffered through her tape. It’s a virus.
- whoever did the makeup for that dead girl in the closet deserves an award. that was so haunting, pausing it and just looking at her is nightmare fuel.
Timmy G. YMS is sort of playing a character, which is unique and he is among the only ppl that really cares and looks for the veracity of the film, so respect to him.. Chris ehhh He is just anybody, not unique in content.. Jeremy jahns does the same but he is more fun and charisma... And our boy Mark he is super cool!!!
"I've always thought the idea of a cursed reel of film told be really creepy, but no one has projectors in their home"... good sir, have you heard of film called 'Sinister'?
Just a quick comment on some things you said about The Ring. The reason why copying and showing the curse tape is what matters in the end is because Samara is EVIL, always was, and wants her evil to spread. And if you think about it, the only way to save yourself from the curse is by committing an evil act yourself, cursing someone else and getting them quite possibly murdered. Rachael first did this unknowingly but had to repeat it to save her son. That's pretty grim. Samara wins after all and her evil will never stop. This was never the story of a ghost with unresolved issues that needed to be liberated to move on, this was a misdirection for both the Rachael character and the audience. This also served as pretty damn good commentary on perception and how media can twist a story to make it look one way when the truth might be very different. At first glance, the narrative that a young girl was misunderstood and later murdered by her own parents kinda makes you instincively feel sympathy for that child and assume guilt for the parents. We see at some point the tape of interviews of when Samara was in the mental institution, we see it through Rachael's eyes and her motherly biais. Samara speaks softly and saddly, "And I'm sorry, it won't stop" as though she doesn't want this to be happening but can't help it. Later, when we know the truth of her character, our perception is no longer tainted by this biais, she speaks the same line in a much, much more sinister ton, revealing that she in fact loved hurting people and would never stop because she revels in it. Samara was evil when she was alive, torturing animals and people around her purposefully by photo projecting images on horrors directly into their minds. And even after death, her evil continues from beyond the grave reaching to us using our own media obsession against us (something even more relevant today). Rachael releasing her spirit from the well may have in fact made Samara stronger - which, in an alternate reality, could've lead to a great sequel... But no. Fuck Ring 2. That piece of garbage negated everything that made the first one terrifying...
Each story to their own. So Sadako is basically invincible and eternal. Great! But I totally agree they fucked it up in the second movie. Well, sequels...
Unfortunately, conversations on NyQuil are like: 1: Shiny chicken trees hate the fall. 2: My hands talk on the rollercoaster. 1: won ton soup? 2: red. 1: I laughed at the soap dispenser. 2: I'm yelling!!!!!! Not much communication is being had.
I just discovered your channel about an hour ago and have watched several videos already. Absolutely hilarious videos. You could be a stand-up comedian, honestly. Subscribed.
Seth Rogen and James Franco have just completed a film named The Disaster Artist about Tommy Wiseau and how he shot the most infamous film of his, The Room. I watched the teaser trailer for it about a week ago and it was goddamn hilarious. It showcased how they shot the roof scene with the now-famous line "I did not hurt her!! I did NOT!!! Oh, hi Mark!" where Wiseau, played by Franco, managed to "nail" it on "just" the 67th take or so. :-D :-D :-D Idiot!! :-)
subraxas it is funny but, and this is me nitpicking here, in the book it says it took 37 takes to get that line, not 67. They had to give him the water bottle so he could remember where his marks were located. Otherwise it looks hilarious and I am going to see it.
Yeah, such changes are being called 'artistic license'. In this instance it served to emphasize the tragicomedy of the situation and the whole affair. Or more specifically, the tragicomedy of Mr. Tommy Wiseau himself. :-)
The Tinder Solution is pure genius! That's why I love Mark videos! New sequel: Rings: The Tinder Solution! sequel: Rings: The Tinder Aftermath! Sequel: Rings: Life after the Tinder Aftermath! Sequel: Ring: Opening a New Tinder Account.
Wait, I can't just watch it like that. I have to put some cereal or ice cream or somth, like I used to do when he used to upload videos. I was young and excited. Seeing a Fanboy Flicks video always takes you back to your youth. Anyway great video keep it up. And of course, oh hi Mark.
It's ridiculous how many of the films in this series are either old favourites or movies I've seen on vhs but I can't convince my friends that they are real. I might watch too many movies....
"Hey guys, swipe right if you like hookups, but first you gotta come over to my place and watch this video I made" THE PHONE WOULD EXPLODE IN YOUR HAND! That is pure gold
I, too, liked the call centre bit, how you fit "our son" in there. Also, I actually made the cursed DVD to my friend, the video is a bonus feature on the original DVD. He never watched it, and I am still alive.
I love the way Mark gets so personally offended by bad movie logic. It’s like he is temperamentally unsuited to the job of watching bad movies, which is why he’s perfect for it. Most people wouldn’t even attempt to find any rational reason for any of this, Mark can’t help himself.
Idk if this qualifies as a "nitpick" or not, but I always hate how movies portray "computer starts acting of it's own volition to screw over the protagonist" moments. They always just show the computer opening various windows and sending it to the appropriate people, while the protagonist just slaps the mouse and keyboard screaming "NONONO!!!!!" I feel like it would be INFINITELY better, if instead of that we just didn't see it. Imagine if just out of the blue the character gets a couple emails/texts back saying "uh... dude why did you send this shit? Is it a joke or what? I don't get it?" Then the protagonist goes to check the outbox and sees it's FILLED with outgoing messages ALREADY sent with no explanation at all. Hell, even having the character DREAM about sending the messages in an uncharacteristic haze would be better as it would immediately put doubt in them even trusting themselves, and open the ocean of "well when/how/why did this all happen?!" I have a hard time picturing my phone going through and opening each window while I stare at it, than I do imagining turning my phone on and seeing some crazy shit was just already sent out with no input or effort coming from me at all.
Harrison Fech because the best people are not heard of or well known case and point mark should be at 1 million already same with ralphthemoviemaker. Watching from Ireland
Luke O Doherty i agree. My only complaint is how long it takes for him to upload but i know its a long and hard process and when he finnally does upload i drop everything to watch his vid
Well, RUclips is not his main job (unfortunately). He did mention in another video that his career has started to go off and I guess RUclips is more of a hobby for him.
shiksen oh okay that makes sense. It takes dedication to have a career and still make youtube videos. Im sure if he did youtube full time hed probably blow up
Haha! Samara having to outsource to call centers. Would the curse still go through if you can't understand that thick Middle Eastern accent? I took Tabatha's manly voice more seriously from _Scary Movie 3_. "Hello, I'm calling from Reader's Digest with a fantastic offer for Cody! (stifled laughter)"
my fav bit is about knowing the exact time one watched the video. it reminds me of the rough estimates provided by scientists to action heroes: "When will it explode?" "Uh... perhaps 3 hours... maybe less", followed by nail-biting action as an arbitrary timer counts down to the last few seconds of this (rough) estimate...
That's an awesome analogy! I think my favorite example of what you mentioned is from The Dark Knight Rises. To be clear, I enjoyed that movie, but the whole thing with the nuclear bomb's countdown was laughable. It was supposed to eventually detonate because of some natural decay process, but then all of a sudden it has a digital countdown timer. And it wasn't even originally designed to be a bomb! That was a major wtf moment.
You know the reason that the first guy says he was told "you're gonna die in seven days"? Because the screenwriters watched fucking Scary Movie 3. Because that's why she says in the parody of the original Rings. They took more inspiration from the parody OF The Ring than they did the original movie. Also Scary Movie 3 is the best movie ever
Dude what? No, the first Ring movie (the baka-american version) came out in 2002 and it has the telephone thing. Scary Movie 3 only came a year later in 2003. Not that I wanna defend "Rings" because it sucks ass, and yeah Scary Movie is awesome, but facts are facts
The Ring is A pro-pirateting masterpiece. People don't understand how dangerous life was with VCR's, video tapes and tape decks, we barely survived. CD's and DVD's saved a lot of lives. But at what cost, open back data discs? How did we fall for that global media conspiracy? I still have haunted video tapes from the 90's and I have DVD's from a few years ago that are completely scratched.
And pretty soon, kids won't even know what it is like to get a movie on physical media. What will movie producers do then, make movies about haunted streaming services?
Yeah, Ringu is vastly superior. The remake is so stylized, it isn't scary because it doesn't seem to take place in the real world. Ringu 0 is also great. A prequel to Ringu, it's more of a tragedy than a horror movie because it shows Sadako as a victim of fear, paranoia and hatred. And the prequel actually explains some things in Ringu and Ringu 2 (Rasen is just crap)
Even though I live in Japan, I don’t find Japanese horror scary. It’s either sad, depressing, or unintentionally funny. Not saying it as an uncultured person but more someone who has a high tolerance for creepiness. In the Japanese version, when the people died, they looked like people pulling a face to get you to laugh. It’s funny and looks even faker than the “stylized” American version. I’ll take the epic scene of her coming out of the TV in the American version any day. My favorite Japanese horror film is “Dark Water” (as it’s called in English), not because it’s scary but because it’s a bittersweet tragedy.
26:18 the best part, i have so much laugh. Keep filming same funny scenes and your channel will skyrocket. Best wishes and i want to watch more of your videos. 28:21 you are the best. :)
This is an incredibly quality channel, very surprising there isn't more subs. "Always be condemning" love the detail in the skits. Continue with that, sets you apart from the rest
I may be in the minority, but I really like the idea of Samara still killing people even after her mystery is solved in The Ring. At first, the movie tried to make her sympathetic "She's just an abused girl who wants to be saved." However, the twist showed that salvation is not what she wants, she wants revenge. That to me is way scarier. A sympathetic child who wants help is nice and tragic, but a girl who wants to kill everyone who knew her story and didn't share it, despite anything else they did to help, is scary. It also makes sense in the abuse way: child abuse can only stop if you tell someone and share the story, just being concerned or empathetic does nothing.
The reason Samara was "defeated" by copying the tape and not be solving her death or resting her spirit is because .. well .. she doesn't give a fuck about being laid to rest. Samara's goal is to spread her influence. She acts like a curse or a disease more than anything. She is looking for vengeance, not peace. Everything in The Ring done to solve the situation is a red herring. It's a lesson in futility. You can't bargain with a ghost like her. You can't just tuck her into bed and kiss her goodnight. The end lesson we get is that, sometimes, the cycle of hatred just continues. There's no breaking it.
Just found you and never leaving you :))))))) i-land was the firs video i saw and subscribed. Just one thing: volume of your videos is too low, so other videos are so loud after yours. If you see this will be great. You are great!!! so funny
The call center was your best bit yet. Brilliant.
Thanks Justin, it actually took a really long time to set up and film that
FanboyFlicks The additional effort on the bit definitely paid off! I found it so hilarious! /Always/Be/Condemning/ 😂
it makes me laugh every time I watch it :D !
@@FanboyFlicks That was amazing.
Lol x 1000 😅😂🤣
“Life sucks when you can’t sleep.”
“Have you ever heard the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?”
"i thought so, i wouldn't be a story Samara would tell"
why, no, i haven't, please tell me zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I AM the sedate- /snore
Matthew 😂😂
I don´t get it. Like, where´s the connection? I´ve watched Episode 3. Why do I not understand the joke here, whereas over 350 people apparently do?.....
The call center gag killed me 😂😂😂
That call-center sketch part always gets me. I love the "always be condemning" sign 😂👌🏼
I did not watch the tape, it's not true, it's bullshit, I did not watch the tape, I did not...Oh, hi mark.
Paul Curwood 😂😂😂😭
infinity/10 my friend in fact you've my good sir won the internet
ahahahahahahahahha
"Your tearing me apart Lisa!"
HILLARIOUS LOL
Not sure if this has been said before, but the whole "solving the mystery didn't matter" comes from Japanese horror tropes. The idea is that the supernatural world doesn't act like the regular world, and has its own rules. Generally, in Japanese horror, once you have the attention of some supernatural force, you're doomed. You can't escape or appease the force in a way that makes any sense, it at all. Solving the ghost's mystery and saving yourself is an Western trope, while Japanese horror focuses on the impotence of man in the face of the supernatural.
Also, in the sequel in Japan, the lead from the first movie is revealed to still have died. (Also the same in the book, if memory serves)
Exactly, the ending to The Ring is just being faithful to the original Ring.
Why no mention of the original Japanese film[s] ,which I find so much more spooky and imaginative,than big buck copies.
yeah if you dont want to be satisfied thats a great way of making a movie
@@brianaguilar8283 Oh nice.
I would just love to see people trying to figure out Pulse haha
Already editing The Bye Bye Man review. I'm actually serious.
FanboyFlicks I'M PROUD OF YOU
Awesome!
OH HAI MARK.
What is love, lady don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more.
Horrormaster13 I really hope he does. I think it will be one of his funniest yet if he does.
I always found that the idea of surviving coming with the cost of killing someone else to be one of the things that made Ringu, and by extention the American remake, so powerful. It forces the hero to step into very moral ambiguous territory.
And the idea that understanding Sadako/Samara would be enough to kill it/her, doesn't hold much water anyway. Sadako is evil, the kind of evil that propagates by contaminating others. This idea of Ring as a virus is more fully expressed in other Japanese entries to the franchise and is crucial to the novel.
And speaking of Ring 2, I was at a meet up with the director, Nakata, who did the first Ringu. He explained why Ring 2 is such a mess. Apparently, it was a severe case of studio meddling. Studio representatives would drop by mid-shooting and if they saw fit would veto an entire scene, replace it with another, or change it until it bore no resemblance to what Nakata had in mind.
He said it was so bad he nearly walked out and returned to Japan and only stayed on for respect to his team. It was hell to shoot and convinced him never ever to shoot in the States again.
I think the cicadas thing in this movie may be a weird and very misplaced reference to the first movie in the sense that in Japan, the cry of the cicada is supposed to mean that tragedy is about to strike. That's the only explanation I can think of and it still wouldn't make any sense as cicadas never even feature in the Ring.
There are so many notoriously bad movies that can be explained by horrible studio interference, it's actually amazing how often that's the case. I think it shows most directors and writers are truly capable, it's execs who know nothing about this stuff practically that cause problems.
@@BriarPatchNyra same with video games fallout new vegas would have had multiple times the dialogue, content, items, backstories, weapons, armor, and so much more if they had more time to put it all together and yet it's still seen as a masterpiece that says something considering how much the PC version crashes and save files bug out people blame them but in reality it was the publishers fault granted they gave them a deadline at the start but that doesnt make it better since people seem to forget you can extend a deadline it wont fucking kill the sales if it's a good game or movie it's better to be a good game or movie released later then a bad one releases now that will be remembered as a piece of shit
So many GREAT points here! Only thing I disagree about is the Sadako part (only partially). Apparent you haven’t seen “Ring 0 Birthday”, prequel to Ringu 1998. Sadako was just a REGULAR girl who was innocent, sweet not guilty. But she was born with half demon blood (rumored her father was a sea Demon). So she had a twin..an evil twin. Instead of killing her, they could’ve gotten her help to stop them from binding together. Once Sadako was killed, ALL those ppl did was trigger the bad side. So really, I blame the ppl.
Also the Ring HAS used bugs before (flies) just not the cicadas. It wasn’t a bad idea to me but the execution seemed random so maybe it could’ve been left out
So SAD they barely let Hideo have ANY creative control. So embarrassing . I’d be HONORED to work with him and let him do whatever the heck he wanted. I get that almost ALL franchises jump the shark eventually, but the US Ring could’ve been a solid trilogy if they made the right choices
@@lessismore8533 I have seen it, but the books make Sadako pretty much pure evil. In fact, Sadako is not even a girl, at all, but has no actual gender.
@@Nocturnalux Tbf, even in the novels she wasn't "pretty much pure evil." The reason she became that was because she was raped by a doctor, thrown in a well and sealed in it by him. Before she died, she'd vowed she'd get vengeance on the world for what had happened to her. Also, during the doctor's assault, Sadako had bit him and contracted small pox from him which mutated within her and became the "ring virus." So post-death she was "pretty much pure evil" but in her life she definitely wasn't. Literally an onryo template, basically.
"The phone would EXPLODE in your hand"...
Made me laugh out loud.
hahaha me too, that made me laugh so loud hahahaahah
Models and Movies It’s a genius line.
in japanese lore, there is no escape from an onryo. none. so solving her little mystery is just a cruel joke making you think there is a way, but there is not. HAHAHHAH
There is if you can find a powerful enough onmyoji and have him exorcise the onryo. But I guess those would be scarce in the US. And never call Kagome's grandafather!
Shut it weebs
water bear “shut it weebs” made me laugh way too hard 🤣🤣
If John Constantine was around he'd take care of Samara real quick
Carbomb Torres Samara isn't really a demon though
I'VE BEEN PLANTING BOMBS.
Actually, that would have made the story way more interesting.
LocksAndChains Haha apparently in movie world you don't call the FBI immediately if someone says that.
Can't remember the name of the movie that was in. Wasn't it the one with the alien invasion with what's her face Russian named chick from kickass? I know the names of both but I'm drawing a blank at the moment... I hate when that happens!
@@DeathBYDesign666 The 5th Wave
@@DeathBYDesign666 You're on the internet and you can't look up their names? Devices can multitask these days lol
TD-Billy-89 No I already knew and I prefer not to look up things I already know, I just couldn't think of them at the time. It's the fifth wave and Chloe Grace moretz. Just a momentary brain fart I guess
what happens when you put two TV's in front of each other would samara just infinitely be going through the TV
Genius!
Hmm..HMMMM...
Moist! You've created a haunt paradox!
What I really want to know is what if you just show somebody the video who is going to die anyway? "Seven days," tough girl I'm dying of leukemia tonight. Curse ended.
What if you don’t even have a TV 🤔
What happens if you digitize the tape and put it on RUclips and it gets watched by a million people? Do they each have to forward it to somebody? Or do they have to download a copy of it and then show it to somebody? What if you import it into an editing program and export it as a PNG sequence? Would you still be cursed if you look at the PNGs?
Dr Shaym Hmm not sure but it seems that there are a lot of holes in the plot. (BTW found your channel a year(?) ago from 36 dumb questions for men or something like that, your really cool)
Holy shit...
Daddy Shaym I guess everyone would probably die
SPOILERS FOR THE NOVELS
In the novels it’s a virus. The copying didn’t really save you unless you did it to new media (ie writing a book about the experience, or copying from the vhs to RUclips etc). Which only worked for the person who did the new media thing. Also in the novels Sadako (Samara) is using the online videos in order to impregnate women to make Sadako clones in order to take over the world.
Hope that helps
Dr Shaym You’ll be cursed. But worse, demonetized.
The whole tape copying thing was lost in translation from japanese to english adaptations. In the Japanese one, Sadako (Samara) wanted to be an actress, so that her memory would live on forever, but died before she could. That's why the tape is so important, and showing it to someone else breaks the curse, because you're spreading her memory to someone else
I wouldn’t say “lost in translation “ but part of me would maybe. The tape copying thing for Sadako is an ANALOGY for how she wanted her acting career to go, and therefore acted as (tragic) foreshadowing.
Though Samara is her OWN character and has a different back story, they still could’ve given Samara her OWN unique foreshadowing leading up to her making the tape. The “lost on translation “ part has to do with her not getting a prequel like Sadako did. Yea we’ve seen flashbacks of her backstory but Ringu also had flashbacks but we STILL got “Ring 0 Birthday” that showed how everything started. That’s why the Japanese Ringu had a SOLID 3 movie trilogy. The USA version could’ve TOO if they made better decisions.
That makes a lot more sense! Thanks
"The phone would explode in your hand!!!!"
I died. Lol
fckin same xD
Clickbait title:
_See what happens after seven days. The ending will shock you!_
Most underrated channel on RUclips. Love this stuff! :)
TravellerGreen No it’s Anxsty Tea Bags
The upbeat 1950s production music playing in the background is cracking me up
ToruKun1 sound like the old computer game "The Movies"
It's always sunny background music!!
@@EJ-xs7be Now that's a game I miss playing me and a buddy made some hilarious stuff in that game.
it's 'hollywood music"
That Tinder solution at 15:20 made me die of laughter thanks for making my day Mark.
4:50 I've always seen 'The Ring' as a commentary on sensationalism in media. There is a moment in the movie when Richard Morgan says 'What is it with reporters? You take one person's tragedy and force the world to experience it … spread it like sickness'. I find it really interesting that nothing that she does actually ends the curse, because I think that what the movie is trying to say is that the way in which the media treats crimes (trying to give the public all the details and information) doesn't stop the thirst of the public for more sensationalism.
That’s a coincidence. His line just references the cyclical nature of the ring, and Samara (Sadako) forcing everyone to experience what she suffered through her tape. It’s a virus.
That's an intelligent film analysis.
Mark, your videos have been getting better by the month. Great editing. Thank you, good sir
Thanks, there was a lot of editing involved, I didn't think it would take as long as it did
The call center bit was great!! I love this channel. Thanks Mark!! Really appreciate all the work you put into these. Keep it man, you rock!
Maybe it's because you don't upload very frequently, but I get so excited everytime I see a new video on my subscription feed.
Isaiah Belcher I think that's what makes his channel so special.
- whoever did the makeup for that dead girl in the closet deserves an award. that was so haunting, pausing it and just looking at her is nightmare fuel.
It’s a large prop. They made the dead girl’s body. It’s creepy as hell.
This is probably your funniest review. Definitely worth the wait. Quality over quantity amirite?
Timmy G. Just like YMS reviews however Stuckman and cinemasins always delivers quality as well as others so idk
Joshua Marjonen Chris is a fanboy he's losing his credit to me. But I will give the rest you listed credit. Foundflix is pretty good too.
I've got to be honest, I don't like YMS. I just don't find him funny anymore.
Oh god, Adam from YMS is such an arrogant asshole. I only watch his favorite lists to find out about good indie films.
Timmy G. YMS is sort of playing a character, which is unique and he is among the only ppl that really cares and looks for the veracity of the film, so respect to him..
Chris ehhh
He is just anybody, not unique in content..
Jeremy jahns does the same but he is more fun and charisma...
And our boy Mark he is super cool!!!
"I've always thought the idea of a cursed reel of film told be really creepy, but no one has projectors in their home"... good sir, have you heard of film called 'Sinister'?
Raven Angelique Figueroa Oh god he should review that pile
The reels from the original were so creepy. Until the Mr. Boogie stuff kicked in.
It's been 3,000 years, Mark...
LastNotch *3100
Will .F I don't get it
It's because he has 3100 subscribers.
🗣️The phone would explode in your hand !
StIll makes me laugh😂🤣
Mark we miss you please be more frequent on here!!
lord pookie Frequent videos means less quality and shorter run time. Plus I'm pretty sure this is a one man show. This stuff is harder than it looks.
Just a quick comment on some things you said about The Ring. The reason why copying and showing the curse tape is what matters in the end is because Samara is EVIL, always was, and wants her evil to spread. And if you think about it, the only way to save yourself from the curse is by committing an evil act yourself, cursing someone else and getting them quite possibly murdered. Rachael first did this unknowingly but had to repeat it to save her son. That's pretty grim. Samara wins after all and her evil will never stop. This was never the story of a ghost with unresolved issues that needed to be liberated to move on, this was a misdirection for both the Rachael character and the audience. This also served as pretty damn good commentary on perception and how media can twist a story to make it look one way when the truth might be very different. At first glance, the narrative that a young girl was misunderstood and later murdered by her own parents kinda makes you instincively feel sympathy for that child and assume guilt for the parents. We see at some point the tape of interviews of when Samara was in the mental institution, we see it through Rachael's eyes and her motherly biais. Samara speaks softly and saddly, "And I'm sorry, it won't stop" as though she doesn't want this to be happening but can't help it. Later, when we know the truth of her character, our perception is no longer tainted by this biais, she speaks the same line in a much, much more sinister ton, revealing that she in fact loved hurting people and would never stop because she revels in it. Samara was evil when she was alive, torturing animals and people around her purposefully by photo projecting images on horrors directly into their minds. And even after death, her evil continues from beyond the grave reaching to us using our own media obsession against us (something even more relevant today). Rachael releasing her spirit from the well may have in fact made Samara stronger - which, in an alternate reality, could've lead to a great sequel... But no. Fuck Ring 2. That piece of garbage negated everything that made the first one terrifying...
AMEN AT THIS COMMENT! THANK YOU!
Was looking for this so I didn't have to post it, ahaha.
Each story to their own. So Sadako is basically invincible and eternal. Great! But I totally agree they fucked it up in the second movie. Well, sequels...
@@alexandresobreiramartins9461 the sequels don't exist.
@@SantosAl Yes, you're correct. I apologize. XD
Unfortunately, conversations on NyQuil are like:
1: Shiny chicken trees hate the fall.
2: My hands talk on the rollercoaster.
1: won ton soup?
2: red.
1: I laughed at the soap dispenser.
2: I'm yelling!!!!!!
Not much communication is being had.
He is speaking the language of the gods!
And the sims
I just discovered your channel about an hour ago and have watched several videos already. Absolutely hilarious videos. You could be a stand-up comedian, honestly.
Subscribed.
O H H I M A R K
Trenton Vincent I deed not hit hurr.. Its bullshit.... I did not hit her... I did naaahht
Seth Rogen and James Franco have just completed a film named The Disaster Artist about Tommy Wiseau and how he shot the most infamous film of his, The Room. I watched the teaser trailer for it about a week ago and it was goddamn hilarious. It showcased how they shot the roof scene with the now-famous line "I did not hurt her!! I did NOT!!! Oh, hi Mark!" where Wiseau, played by Franco, managed to "nail" it on "just" the 67th take or so. :-D :-D :-D Idiot!! :-)
Trenton Vincent
That's funny.
How's your sex life?
subraxas it is funny but, and this is me nitpicking here, in the book it says it took 37 takes to get that line, not 67. They had to give him the water bottle so he could remember where his marks were located. Otherwise it looks hilarious and I am going to see it.
Yeah, such changes are being called 'artistic license'. In this instance it served to emphasize the tragicomedy of the situation and the whole affair. Or more specifically, the tragicomedy of Mr. Tommy Wiseau himself. :-)
The Tinder Solution is pure genius! That's why I love Mark videos! New sequel: Rings: The Tinder Solution! sequel: Rings: The Tinder Aftermath! Sequel: Rings: Life after the Tinder Aftermath! Sequel: Ring: Opening a New Tinder Account.
Mark is actually Jerry Seinfeld in a different skin
Except, this guy is funnier!
When you realize he sounds like Seinfeld and immediately see that someone else realized this 2 years ago. 👺👍
He sounds like everyone's impression of Seinfeld.
"It's Tom from Dead Girl Communications..."
Wait, I can't just watch it like that. I have to put some cereal or ice cream or somth, like I used to do when he used to upload videos. I was young and excited. Seeing a Fanboy Flicks video always takes you back to your youth.
Anyway great video keep it up.
And of course, oh hi Mark.
Where has he been?? "I've been planting bombs" 😂😂 gets funnier on multiple viewings hahaha
Hahahah, "the phone would explode in your hand."
That ends skit so good 😂
I'm so obsessed with your bad movie reviews. they bring me so much joy hahah
It's ridiculous how many of the films in this series are either old favourites or movies I've seen on vhs but I can't convince my friends that they are real. I might watch too many movies....
"Hey guys, swipe right if you like hookups, but first you gotta come over to my place and watch this video I made"
THE PHONE WOULD EXPLODE IN YOUR HAND!
That is pure gold
i´m a simple man, i see mark posting, i like before i see it.
Stop
I loved you're call back clip of the dude in The 5th Wave! Thanks for these vids Mark. Love your stuff.
"The phone would explode in your hand." You truly are the king of kings Mark.
Phone calls at the end are funniest thing I saw in a long time, so freaking hilarious, good job 👍
Your channel is so damn good and cathartic dude. I'm sure you're a busy guy but post more because this channel would blow up!
Remember in the first ring. Samara"s mothersaid she drove the horses crazy. I guess the deer scene was a throwback to that.
Lmao!!! You knocked it out of the park Mark!! Effing hilarious!!
I, too, liked the call centre bit, how you fit "our son" in there. Also, I actually made the cursed DVD to my friend, the video is a bonus feature on the original DVD. He never watched it, and I am still alive.
Omg. New bad movies. 31 minutes long. Let's do this
Only 23 years until the next one
I love the way Mark gets so personally offended by bad movie logic. It’s like he is temperamentally unsuited to the job of watching bad movies, which is why he’s perfect for it. Most people wouldn’t even attempt to find any rational reason for any of this, Mark can’t help himself.
Dude you're awesome where have you been that ending tho best one ever!!! 😀
Samara took programming classes, sweet.
Edit: the call center bit was amazing!
Idk if this qualifies as a "nitpick" or not, but I always hate how movies portray "computer starts acting of it's own volition to screw over the protagonist" moments.
They always just show the computer opening various windows and sending it to the appropriate people, while the protagonist just slaps the mouse and keyboard screaming "NONONO!!!!!"
I feel like it would be INFINITELY better, if instead of that we just didn't see it.
Imagine if just out of the blue the character gets a couple emails/texts back saying "uh... dude why did you send this shit? Is it a joke or what? I don't get it?"
Then the protagonist goes to check the outbox and sees it's FILLED with outgoing messages ALREADY sent with no explanation at all.
Hell, even having the character DREAM about sending the messages in an uncharacteristic haze would be better as it would immediately put doubt in them even trusting themselves, and open the ocean of "well when/how/why did this all happen?!"
I have a hard time picturing my phone going through and opening each window while I stare at it, than I do imagining turning my phone on and seeing some crazy shit was just already sent out with no input or effort coming from me at all.
"The phone would explode in your hands!"
Fucking lost it at that
I'm in love with your call center bit at 26:00
You are so underrated. Why are you not more popular?
Harrison Fech because the best people are not heard of or well known case and point mark should be at 1 million already same with ralphthemoviemaker. Watching from Ireland
Luke O Doherty i agree. My only complaint is how long it takes for him to upload but i know its a long and hard process and when he finnally does upload i drop everything to watch his vid
Well, RUclips is not his main job (unfortunately). He did mention in another video that his career has started to go off and I guess RUclips is more of a hobby for him.
shiksen oh okay that makes sense. It takes dedication to have a career and still make youtube videos. Im sure if he did youtube full time hed probably blow up
Cause people are idiots.
Oh man, they dragged Vincent D’Onofrio and Johnny Galecki into this mess didn’t they
Haha! Samara having to outsource to call centers. Would the curse still go through if you can't understand that thick Middle Eastern accent? I took Tabatha's manly voice more seriously from _Scary Movie 3_.
"Hello, I'm calling from Reader's Digest with a fantastic offer for Cody! (stifled laughter)"
It's Southeast Asian, not Middle Eastern.
You are best one yet ! Loved the call center bit !!
Carry on, man !!!
my fav bit is about knowing the exact time one watched the video. it reminds me of the rough estimates provided by scientists to action heroes: "When will it explode?" "Uh... perhaps 3 hours... maybe less", followed by nail-biting action as an arbitrary timer counts down to the last few seconds of this (rough) estimate...
That's an awesome analogy! I think my favorite example of what you mentioned is from The Dark Knight Rises. To be clear, I enjoyed that movie, but the whole thing with the nuclear bomb's countdown was laughable. It was supposed to eventually detonate because of some natural decay process, but then all of a sudden it has a digital countdown timer. And it wasn't even originally designed to be a bomb! That was a major wtf moment.
28:10 "Well yeah Rach, thats the whole reason I'm calling." ha ha ha
Dude! Where The Fuck Have You Been!🙌🏾
He has been having back problems and had a surgery.
Planting bombs
Brad did he actually have surgery? Done on what part of the body exactly?
Isn't his content fantastic? He is actually friends with Stuckman also you can see why
He posted it on his Facebook a few months ago, but I think was the lumbar region.
You know the reason that the first guy says he was told "you're gonna die in seven days"? Because the screenwriters watched fucking Scary Movie 3. Because that's why she says in the parody of the original Rings. They took more inspiration from the parody OF The Ring than they did the original movie.
Also Scary Movie 3 is the best movie ever
Dude what? No, the first Ring movie (the baka-american version) came out in 2002 and it has the telephone thing. Scary Movie 3 only came a year later in 2003. Not that I wanna defend "Rings" because it sucks ass, and yeah Scary Movie is awesome, but facts are facts
I absolutely hate the deer scene from Ring Two because the deer look fake as hell.
15:14
“The phone would EXPLODE in your hand!!” 😁😜😂
That shit was funny af 👌🏼😁
I MISSED YOU SO MUCH
Ned Ryerson?
Scoobert O'Doobert your profile pic and name tho
The call centre skit at the end is awesome lol brilliant work
"The phone would explode in your hand!" That got me. That got me good.
Nice reference to Goren
The spy v spy T-shirt is killer. Loved it on my c64 back in the day 😝
Oh hi Mark. Do you think you will cover Baby Geniuses or Alone in the Dark in the future?
The Ring is A pro-pirateting masterpiece. People don't understand how dangerous life was with VCR's, video tapes and tape decks, we barely survived. CD's and DVD's saved a lot of lives. But at what cost, open back data discs? How did we fall for that global media conspiracy? I still have haunted video tapes from the 90's and I have DVD's from a few years ago that are completely scratched.
I remember those time. Lots of weird porn you can find those days.
And pretty soon, kids won't even know what it is like to get a movie on physical media. What will movie producers do then, make movies about haunted streaming services?
I've been wondering where you've been! So glad to hear from you again ;)
Your call center skit was magnificent, Mark. I laughed so hard I cried. :'D
I like your shirt and your channel. So glad you uploaded!
I'm kinda glad that i'm entering this channel kinda 'late'... I have a ton of fun videos to watch! Keep up the good work! =)
I always liked the original Ring from Japan the most!
ITS GREAT TO SEE MARK AGAIN! GREAT REVIEW MAN! ALSO, GREAT JOB ON THE PARODY ENDING!! :D
Then hollywood will milk it out
Same thing with the Grudge. The original is always the best
Yeah, Ringu is vastly superior. The remake is so stylized, it isn't scary because it doesn't seem to take place in the real world. Ringu 0 is also great. A prequel to Ringu, it's more of a tragedy than a horror movie because it shows Sadako as a victim of fear, paranoia and hatred. And the prequel actually explains some things in Ringu and Ringu 2 (Rasen is just crap)
Even though I live in Japan, I don’t find Japanese horror scary. It’s either sad, depressing, or unintentionally funny. Not saying it as an uncultured person but more someone who has a high tolerance for creepiness. In the Japanese version, when the people died, they looked like people pulling a face to get you to laugh. It’s funny and looks even faker than the “stylized” American version. I’ll take the epic scene of her coming out of the TV in the American version any day.
My favorite Japanese horror film is “Dark Water” (as it’s called in English), not because it’s scary but because it’s a bittersweet tragedy.
When the deer flips out and starts threatening hin I lost it laughing, I have a weird sense of humor.
This channel is one of the hidden gems of youtube.
26:18 the best part, i have so much laugh. Keep filming same funny scenes and your channel will skyrocket. Best wishes and i want to watch more of your videos. 28:21 you are the best. :)
I love these more in depth style of reviews you have going on with the Neverending Story and now the Rings! Keep it up!
😂 Just watched them back to back!
“The phone would explode in your hand!”
Lmfao
14:33 Jerry Seinfield.
I like the deer in The Ring 2 because it seems like an homage to the animals reacting to Damien in the ‘70s film, The Omen.
Except the dogs in Omen were real, not some terrible ps2-level cgi crapfest.
Oh, hi mark
Brenda Margareth so how's you're sex life
+spider man Can't talk about it...
you're*
@@cognissonance1162 you can't be that foolish...
That end skit had me ROLLING
27:53 "It's Tom! Uh...from Dead Girl Communications." I laughed so much XD
This is an incredibly quality channel, very surprising there isn't more subs. "Always be condemning" love the detail in the skits. Continue with that, sets you apart from the rest
I may be in the minority, but I really like the idea of Samara still killing people even after her mystery is solved in The Ring. At first, the movie tried to make her sympathetic "She's just an abused girl who wants to be saved." However, the twist showed that salvation is not what she wants, she wants revenge. That to me is way scarier. A sympathetic child who wants help is nice and tragic, but a girl who wants to kill everyone who knew her story and didn't share it, despite anything else they did to help, is scary. It also makes sense in the abuse way: child abuse can only stop if you tell someone and share the story, just being concerned or empathetic does nothing.
In Japanese lore, deer are spiritual protectors. They can infact sense Samara in the kid.
The reason Samara was "defeated" by copying the tape and not be solving her death or resting her spirit is because .. well .. she doesn't give a fuck about being laid to rest. Samara's goal is to spread her influence. She acts like a curse or a disease more than anything. She is looking for vengeance, not peace.
Everything in The Ring done to solve the situation is a red herring. It's a lesson in futility. You can't bargain with a ghost like her. You can't just tuck her into bed and kiss her goodnight. The end lesson we get is that, sometimes, the cycle of hatred just continues. There's no breaking it.
"Random sports center highlights, oh shit he's here!" LOLOL
Holy fuck! HE LIVES!!!
Recently found this channel through your Neverending Story 2 video, freaking hilarious dude. Badadun badadun 😂
oh sweet ill set my timer for the next video-
"Hey Siri, set a reminder for 2 months from now"
The call center part was hilarious!!! Thank you for that.
The Ring Poster saids "The best scary movie since the sixth sense." The Sixth Sense is not a scary movie
+Noah Cason And it was an infinitely better movie.
Just found you and never leaving you :))))))) i-land was the firs video i saw and subscribed. Just one thing: volume of your videos is too low, so other videos are so loud after yours. If you see this will be great. You are great!!! so funny
Obligatory "Oh, hi Mark" comment
Brian McMinn unnecessarily rude reply about you stalking him that doesn't make sense
The planting bombs bit - I was JUST thinking he looks like the same guy, when you played that clip I freaked out :D