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    Thor: Love and Thunder introduces the god-killing Necrosword--a deadly weapon but also one of the biggest mysteries in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. IN this video we break down how the sword connects to the rest of the MCU, including Wanda Maximoff, the Black Knight, the Infinity Stones, and the Eternals.
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    First, let’s review what we know about the necrosword. When Gorr finds the sword, it’s in the possession of a recently deceased being who the gods have just slain. Notice this being is completely covered in darkness, like the black berserkers that Gorr summons throughout the movie. It could be that, if Gorr had the sword for several years, then this darkness would have covered him as well.
    The sword appears to have an intelligence. We see it call out to Gorr in its first scene. It whispers his name, and shows him images of eternity, the bifrost-. Basically Gorr’s evil plan in the movie was never his evil plan. This plan was created by the sword, and it seeks out hosts to help it complete its quest to kill all the gods.
    Think of the necrosword like the one ring in Lord of the Rings. The ring is evil, and it's embedded with the consciousness of the dark lord sauron. But the ring is also parasitic. It drains the life from people who use it, corrupting them [Bilbo reaching for the ring]. We also see this with Gorr. The sword puts these black veins in his body, his mouth is black and filled with fangs. And, after the sword is gone, he immediately says “I’m dying.”
    The ring is also trying to make its way to Sauron, just as the necrosword is trying to kill all the gods.
    Now remember that Lord of the Rings metaphor, because we’re going to call back to it a little later on. No spoilers.
    We also learn that the necrosword has been around since the dawn of time, and that it has been passed down for billions of years, with the purpose of killing gods. Kind of like if Richard Dawkins embedded his essence into a weapon, like Sauron did the one ring.
    Hold on [thinking] yes, that is the weirdest sentence I have ever spoken.
    So that’s what we know about the sword. Very old, has an intelligence, corrupts people, and wants to kill gods. Now let’s offer up some informed speculation, figure out why the sword wants to kill gods, and who is actually behind this madness.
    First, the sword has been around since the beginning of time. Well, time began at the big bang. And we happen to know a thing or two about the big bang [wong explaining infinity stones]. So the infinity stones have been around since the dawn of time. They are the concentrations of six facets of the universe. And one of those facets is time-so this stone’s origin marks the beginning of recordable time.
    And the stones also protect reality from threats that we can’t even imagine. We’ve alsos seen the stones endow certain beings with magical powers. Like Carol Danvers, the Vision, Wanda, and Pietro-and maybe other beings like Thor, Heimdall, and Agatha-I’ll explain in a bit.
    So all of these stones and the sword were created at the dawn of time, at the source of the big bang. The big bang was an explosion of energy that stretched outward for billions of years. and , in the movie, we see the center of the universe. It's where eternity resides. The temple is a physical construct that is there to protect Eternity. And eternity can only be reached with a bifrost.
    The bifrost is, of course, technology used by the asgardians to travel across the universe. And I’ve theorized in the past that Odin created the bifrost using energy from the space stone. Think about it. He had the stone, invented the bifrost, then conquered the nine realms. Afterwards, he felt bad, banished hela, and stored the tesseract on earth, in norway.
    In thor 1, the tesseract is destroyed. This seems kind of permanent. Then, Thor goes to earth, collects the tesseract for Odin, and boom, the bifrost is suddenly fixed. Because they used the tesseract to repair it.
    Anyways, it's appropriate that it takes the energy of the space stone-the bifrost-to bend space so you can re-enter the birthplace of the space stone-which would be the center of the universe. And this is the exact location that the necrosword would have come from, because it has existed, quote, since the dawn of time.”
    #thorloveandthunder #Necrosword #Gorr
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  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush  Год назад +32

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    • @gamepitchway3500
      @gamepitchway3500 Год назад

      Best MCU villain REALLY? Now I know Marvel pays you for this foolishness. Villain that was barely in the movie and butchered no god's. Your cred and value just got flushed down the proverbial toilet. Unfollow

    • @jlm7060
      @jlm7060 Год назад

      This announcement on Monday better be just freaking awesome.

    • @jlm7060
      @jlm7060 Год назад

      @@gamepitchway3500 easy on the hate buddy...I agree Gorr isn't the best villain, IMO Thanos was the best...and I'm pretty sure you're still gonna click on ScreenCrush videos anyways

    • @greyjedi6430
      @greyjedi6430 Год назад

      If I drink it's non stop for 3 days then don't drink for months or years doubt Ur drink could help with my hangover 🤣🤣

    • @ricknick5318
      @ricknick5318 Год назад

      I think the one ring committed suicide it knows it can make itself be lost and it knows how to make itself would be lost safely without damaging itself and what if the contamination of Smeagol The Hobbit and Frodo the ring started feeling a little bit of the hobbits goodness and decided not to be part of the end of the world and it even tried to take the two contaminated beings with it

  • @Nemoticon
    @Nemoticon Год назад +271

    Gor didn't get enough screen time for character and story development, imo. Like too many potentially great MCU villains, Gor was under-utilised and therefore wasted. If only the villains didn't keep getting killed off so they could return in later instalments, enjoying deeper meaning, familiarity and purpose. Villains validate the heroes and not using great villains to their full potential simply doesn't do the hero or the story justice. The greatest heroes and stories have the greatest villains.

    • @Matisaro
      @Matisaro Год назад +1

      yeah, it was good but another 10 minutes of gor's life and suffering would have done wonders

    • @luigiscazzari4724
      @luigiscazzari4724 Год назад +27

      Are you really a God-butcher if you don't do any God-butchering on-screen?

    • @jayw6211
      @jayw6211 Год назад +4

      I forgot about this movie as soon as I left the cinema. 2/10

    • @howardsmothers8817
      @howardsmothers8817 Год назад +3

      @Luis yara Reyes they brought back Thanos after killing him in the first 20 minutes of the film. The multiverse exists... We got to see 616 Strange vs 838 Mordo. We could still possibly see a 616 Strange vs 616 Mordo unless the deleted scene fate of 616 Mordo by Wanda is canon.

    • @MeekoBourous
      @MeekoBourous Год назад +1

      They was caught up in making the movie so giggly and “love” themed they didn’t want to show the darkness and true gore he has you are right

  • @pixel3042
    @pixel3042 Год назад +87

    One thing about the Bifrost theory, In Thor: The Dark World we see Borr (Odins father) use the bifrost to get to the dark elves. So this means that it wasn't Odin who invented it, but someone else.

    • @danielhughes5932
      @danielhughes5932 Год назад +9

      Dark magic can also be used to activate a bifrost. But it can't be done often or well

    • @Mr713mexican
      @Mr713mexican Год назад +4

      No he’s right. Odin dans tend to forget he had a father named Borr. And they also forget that Borr dealt with the Aether and with the dark elves and most likely the builder of Asgard as an inter dimensional place. Odin is unaware of Borr stuff or he would know the location of the reality stone, and if the pocket holes exciting throughout Asgard like loki

  • @bigman6756
    @bigman6756 Год назад +55

    It would be sick if they made another sword that is “the first symbiote” and then connected all of these swords somehow. Hella’s sword, Gorr’s sword, Dane’s sword, and then a symbiote sword. I feel like there’s something cool to be done here.

    • @oneman5753
      @oneman5753 Год назад +4

      Then you can bet marvel won't do it lol. That's the sad reality I've come to understand, all the coolest ish Marvel could do, they will not

    • @plasticbeetle5377
      @plasticbeetle5377 Год назад +7

      @@oneman5753 sony has the rights for symbiote
      They will hire morbius writers to execute your brilliant idea

  • @kiezersosay49
    @kiezersosay49 Год назад +112

    Thank you so much for the content dude! You and your dog definitely know your ways around the MCU/comic marvel lore better than most. Imo, you, Rob, and eric V(and his team of research minions) are the best marvel minds that are actively breaking all this down. These videos are basically the only way to get my marvel fix in-between releases(lol and rewatching everything a bunch) and im so greatful! Im sure i speak for the entire multiverse on that one...

    • @khonshugodofthenightsky2159
      @khonshugodofthenightsky2159 Год назад

      Who's Rob?

    • @solvseus
      @solvseus Год назад

      @@khonshugodofthenightsky2159 Keyser Söze is the villain of the Usual Suspects. Dan Hedaya plays a cop in that movie, and is also in Mullholland Drive. Which was directed by David Lynch. Who made Twin Peaks. In which there's a character named Bob, who is a demon. What's another nickname for Robert? Rob. Who's the main demon in the MCU?
      That's right, Mephisto confirmed!

    • @famousgoldentouch
      @famousgoldentouch Год назад

      Well said my fellow marvel nerd 🤓👍

    • @RafikiTheBaboon
      @RafikiTheBaboon Год назад +1

      @@khonshugodofthenightsky2159 Geek Culture Explained

    • @ezav420
      @ezav420 Год назад

      true here as well. had this exact thought earlier today

  • @holla_at_tchalla2548
    @holla_at_tchalla2548 Год назад +17

    Recently just watched the T’Challa becomes Starlord “What If” episode. When the collector uses Hela’s weapon he calls it a necrosword as well. I thought that was really interesting and thought Gorr’s weapon and it might be of the same origin.

    • @holla_at_tchalla2548
      @holla_at_tchalla2548 Год назад +10

      @threedoubleyou dotcom all the Collector said was, “That woman had taste. A Necrosword, courtesy of the Asgardian goddess of death.”
      Just found it as interesting especially since he said “A Necrosword” and not “the”. So could be a family of Necroswords in the MCU.

  • @drewhottinger6949
    @drewhottinger6949 Год назад +14

    Holy heck dude!
    Love this!
    The Ancient One said the stones protect our world from darkness (Chthon). What if each Elder God made one…
    Watcher: space
    One Above All: power
    Lady Death: soul
    Infinity: mind
    Eon: time
    The Living Tribunal: reality
    …to protect Eternity from Cthon?

  • @TalesOfHunter
    @TalesOfHunter Год назад +8

    Cthon would be the perfect antagonist for the Scarlet Witch self titled movie.

  • @Yoda_Saint_Cloud
    @Yoda_Saint_Cloud Год назад +32

    “Why does the Necrosword want to kill the Gods?” Because Sony is stupid and won’t fully release the rights to Spider-Man, so we can’t have Knull in the MCU. That’s why the sword is the bad guy and not just a tool used by a bad guy.

    • @ASNS117Zero
      @ASNS117Zero Год назад

      Sony doesn't own the movie rights to Knull. He was first introduced in a Thor comic, and it was long after Sony established which characters they have the movie rights to. All Marvel would have to do to use him in a movie would be to tweak his background to avoid using symbiotes, which wouldn't really be hard.

    • @xxo5294
      @xxo5294 Год назад

      I thought it was implied in the beginning when there was a flashback or like a view into that one place that there was someone else behind the sword? I couldn’t be wrong

    • @Yoda_Saint_Cloud
      @Yoda_Saint_Cloud Год назад +3

      @@ASNS117Zero so… they’d have to create a whole new character then? Can’t have Knull, god of the symbiotes….. without symbiotes.

    • @ASNS117Zero
      @ASNS117Zero Год назад +2

      @@Yoda_Saint_Cloud Sure you can. All the core aspects of his character could be retained, just scrub the idea of the symbiote and play up the idea of the living abyss and being an avatar of Oblivion. He's not really a complicated character, and it's not like Sony owns the visual concept of 'black ooze', so just call anything like that 'living abyss', without using the word 'symbiote', say that the 'living abyss' is corrupted and lets Knull mind control people, and there you go. You'd lose out of the Klyntar lore, sure, but if you play up the connection with Oblivion from the get go as well as him going around, hunting and killing Celestials, then it's not really too much of a loss.
      Honestly, with all that being said, I think it's more likely that if Marvel wants to use the concept of Knull, they'll probably just fold all of his character traits into someone else, like Cthun or the Chaos King, just so that they could dodge any potential legal issues with Sony, because Sony could very much make a legal case out of this. It would come down to whether or not Marvel could make the case that Knull isn't just a Venom character, which I honestly think they could do, but it would come down to the opinion of the judge. Why bother with that risk when they can just fold those ideas into someone they definitively own?

    • @keithmartin2039
      @keithmartin2039 Год назад

      aww, now that sucks! i was wondering why they're dancing around Knull and there it is..damn.

  • @berkeleyltc8568
    @berkeleyltc8568 Год назад +22

    I'd like to see a video about the definition of 'gods' in the MCU. What's the difference between a 'god,' a super-powered being, and an ancient being like a celestial, Eternity, Dormamu, a watcher, etc. There seem to be contradictory statements in the MCU - Ex Odin tells Loki 'We are not gods.' Ego tells Quill 'God with a small g.' Zeus talks about lower and higher gods. Is it related to cosmic energy? Is Captain Marvel then a god? Also, 'Love and Thunder' brought up this issue of gods needing/wanting to be worshipped. Is that part of their power (like that episode of Star Trek with Apollo on the original series). In other words, when Gor says 'All gods must die,' who is he talking about? BTW, the issue of worship is an interesting issue that got side-stepped in 'Love and Thunder.' What are the roles of gods/superheroes in lives of regular people in the MCU (and for regular people who watch MCU movies). I'd love to see/hear more about that.

    • @berkeleyltc8568
      @berkeleyltc8568 Год назад

      @threedoubleyou dotcom Thanks for that thoughtful answer! The relativistic approach is pretty satisfying in many ways, though it seems like the characters (and possibly Marvel creators) may have different opinions. One scene that jumps out at me is when Loki tells Thanos that he'll never be a god right before Thanos kills him. What do you suppose Loki meant by that comment?

    • @vidinhadovini
      @vidinhadovini Год назад +1

      Great question and great answer! About the worship thing: I recommend American Gods. It's has a interesting take on the power of the worship in modern world.

    • @shreeya3789
      @shreeya3789 Год назад +1

      Probably the same logic as us: known and worshipped by humans/other lesser than species. Entities like eternity and the watcher almost never reveal their presence to normal humans, hence they don't get a chance to call them Gods.

    • @richardwhite9688
      @richardwhite9688 Год назад +1

      Read secret wars

  • @christiancividino455
    @christiancividino455 Год назад +19

    One correction: the rings of power were made by elves for elves. Sauron made the One ring to master the elves but it failed and he waged war to reclaim the rings since his instruction made them possible. He reclaimed all but the Three elven rings and then distributed 7 to dwarves and 9 to men in hopes he could still bend them to his will. It only worked on men.

    • @allcorruptingwyrm5324
      @allcorruptingwyrm5324 Год назад

      the seven rings made the dwarves more greedy so it kinda worked.

    • @christiancividino455
      @christiancividino455 Год назад

      @@allcorruptingwyrm5324 Well it had an effect but not Sauron’s chief aim which was to control the leaders and thus have power over all people under them.

    • @Mr713mexican
      @Mr713mexican Год назад

      Thank you! I hate when they get all of the mixed up.

  • @ChrisHobson916
    @ChrisHobson916 Год назад +1

    The intelligent weapon competition in this movie was awesome.

  • @Kal824
    @Kal824 Год назад +9

    Aside from Spider-Man NWH, and The Eternals, it seems from the beginning of WandaVision, every MCU series/movie is setting up for Young Avengers. What if "Love" becomes part of the Young Avengers?

  • @kylecarter1599
    @kylecarter1599 Год назад +7

    The bifrost is dark magic that Odin and Heimdall learned to control and built a piece of technology to harness, not a technology based on the space stone or tesseract.

  • @Vova-xv3zn
    @Vova-xv3zn Год назад +2

    maybe it was just design ideas, but I feel like it wasn't the veins on Gorr's face. I kinda immediately thought of his lines on his face that could have symbolized dedication to Rapu. and when he understood the nature of gods he wanted to get rid of it, so it was the cuts to cover the tattoo

  • @akaakaakaak5779
    @akaakaakaak5779 Год назад +17

    The temple of morag actually depicts them forging the stones, it's stated so in a guide book

  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush  Год назад +22

    What do you think of our theory?

    • @Bluej44
      @Bluej44 Год назад +2

      I love it

    • @Bluej44
      @Bluej44 Год назад +2

      :D

    • @Theoneandonlycreature
      @Theoneandonlycreature Год назад +4

      What if Gorr started smooching with Thor?

    • @DiePersoon
      @DiePersoon Год назад +3

      I think it is a great theory. Do you have a team that helps you with making theories?

    • @mr.brownstone5716
      @mr.brownstone5716 Год назад +2

      Prefer your previous theory of the Chaos War is coming via Amatsu-Mikaboshi (aka Chaos King).

  • @Shiny_Hunter_Rob
    @Shiny_Hunter_Rob Год назад +3

    With all the LoTR talk in this episode, I'm thinking the announcement is something LoTR-related.

  • @anoopsrivastava7496
    @anoopsrivastava7496 Год назад +2

    Ryan Loves To Predict The Histories Of Cinematic Universes!!

  • @TheGrittyUrbanSaga
    @TheGrittyUrbanSaga Год назад +2

    I think you like the 'idea' of Gorr more than what was actually presented on screen.

  • @walterleviere8123
    @walterleviere8123 Год назад +5

    Did that huge object that Thor caught to save the kids from being crushed at the end look like a head of a Celestial? I could of sworn I saw 6 lighted eyes on it.

    • @isaacskicks7061
      @isaacskicks7061 Год назад +2

      It was the head of celestial, atleast the head of a statue of a celestial

    • @Worldly_Pitfall3
      @Worldly_Pitfall3 Год назад

      Yeah I forgot which one though i think it was the one above all and yea there is a celestial called that and TOAA and this celestial are two different things it’s pretty confusing

  • @catfdljws
    @catfdljws Год назад +14

    hmm...there's lots of critical talk from the more casual MCU observers that the MCU is going too slowly. It took 4 years to get from Iron Man to Avengers, a mere 5 films. Civil War (or even Ant Man) to Endgame was 8 films spread out over another 5 years.
    yet with phase 4, so much stuff is coming all at once. we've had more MCU on-screen content in the last two years than phase 3's movies combined. TV: WV, F&WS, Loki, What If, Hawkeye, Ms Marvel. Movies: Black Widow, Eternals, Shang Chi, Dr Strange MoM, and Thor 4...with more on the way. By the time that phase 4 reaches whatever Feige thinks is the endgame (sorry), it'll have had more on-screen footage than the entirety of phases 1 through 3.
    So there's so much expectation of connections and "just get on with it" - show us NOW how it all becomes Secret Wars, or whatever. Lots of impatience out there, as noted by a recent Forbes review of Thor 4. We're overwhelmed with stuff but no idea what the connections really are meant to be. Comics fans like yourself love this speculation. Business people (again, "Forbes") who need predictability to decide where their stock portfolio needs to go want certainty.
    So...bleh.
    Anyways, the thought is that phase 4's finale or closure is not Secret Wars. That's phase 5.
    The point of Phase 4 is to actually assemble all the groups that have been assembling - no avengers? great. give us 4 years and we'll give you "Young Avengers", "Thunderbolts", "Midnight Suns", and a new Avengers from the ashes of the old (this is what Secret Invasion and Iron Wars will do, combined with Cap 4 starring Mackey's Wilson), along with Fantastic Four and (along the way) a piecemeal introduction to what will become first X-Men MCU. Each will peak at their own. Then in phase 5 we'll see a big opening with X-Men, and then each of these thread teams deal with some aspects of the great incursions until finally Secret Wars happens.
    and that's looking at a good decade out.
    So everybody - have patience. If you knew everything a roller coaster was going to do, would you actually enjoy the ride?

    • @vidinhadovini
      @vidinhadovini Год назад

      Exactly, I see a lot of people complaining about "the mess", but they don't understand that we will have several teams and threats at the same time and not a big bad and a big team like Avengers vs Thanos.

    • @wiltisdabest
      @wiltisdabest Год назад

      Phase 6 is secret wars

  • @famousgoldentouch
    @famousgoldentouch Год назад +2

    So far the best explanation/ theory where phase 4 is heading to so far ! Great video guys !

  • @ryanlondah1282
    @ryanlondah1282 Год назад +11

    I think the reason that the Necrosword called to Gorr is because in the first scene, he accidentally "touch" the Necrosword before meet his god and wounded his hand (wounded like you slice a knife into your hand) maybe that's the reason the sword reach to him when he got choked by his god

    • @drasvader1
      @drasvader1 Год назад +3

      You are Gorrect.

    • @jahleel0077
      @jahleel0077 Год назад +1

      The sword was calling to him before he even got to the oasis

    • @DONNN_RON
      @DONNN_RON Год назад

      The sword called to him because of his suffering. That's why it chose him. Not because he sliced his hand on it.

    • @Worldly_Pitfall3
      @Worldly_Pitfall3 Год назад

      The sword was calling to him way before that occurred

  • @RTBurruss
    @RTBurruss Год назад +1

    This was such a good breakdown. So many more theories to mull over

  • @berkeleyltc8568
    @berkeleyltc8568 Год назад +9

    It might have been interesting if Gor's sword didn't kill gods, but rather just took away their powers. Makes me think about that scene in X-men when Magneto is reduced to an old guy playing chess in the park. Imagine a similar scene with Russel Crowe/Zeus. I'd imagine some of them maintaining their nobility and courage with others being kind of pathetic.

    • @drycell476
      @drycell476 Год назад +1

      damnn that's a good one

    • @berkeleyltc8568
      @berkeleyltc8568 Год назад +1

      I also think that Gor would have been a much more sympathetic and complex character. The movie would then be more of an exploration about how, when, and if super-powered beings are valuable/beneficial for society. That's something Vision talked about in one of the Avenger movies, too.

    • @Worldly_Pitfall3
      @Worldly_Pitfall3 Год назад

      It’s not gorrs sword it’s allblack the necrosword they’re not going to change the whole thing since they derived it off the comics even if they don’t hold rights to knull

  • @leonardodomingues7925
    @leonardodomingues7925 Год назад +1

    Chaos Magic is about making your will come true. Order Magic is about what has to be done. They are opposing forces in the universe, Cthon and the Vishanti. We could position items in an order/chaos index, but maybe they aren't directly Cthon's powers. Furthermore, Cthon can't be Entropy, because Entropy does not bend reality to your will. It does what it does, more like Death in this sense.

  • @leroybrown8872
    @leroybrown8872 Год назад +4

    I really enjoy the content and insight but Doug is my favorite part. He’s awesome!!

  • @ericaaxelrod4274
    @ericaaxelrod4274 Год назад

    My favorite video of yours yet!

  • @theromanepicproductions8518
    @theromanepicproductions8518 Год назад

    thank you so much for this content and breakdowns

  • @rubendevereaux6086
    @rubendevereaux6086 Год назад

    Happy birthday doug! Doug is the absolute best sidekick

  • @queandmelworld
    @queandmelworld Год назад

    This was awesome 👏🏾

  • @juliancarmichael3869
    @juliancarmichael3869 Год назад

    U cracked it !!!! Thank the maker of the maker

  • @alcav54
    @alcav54 Год назад

    Finally just watched Thor 4. Now I can get caught up on your vids

  • @jesusaguirre4822
    @jesusaguirre4822 Год назад +1

    Love your content… but such a tease. I looked everywhere for what the announcement could be!

  • @emilyhassel7914
    @emilyhassel7914 Год назад

    The dog 😭💕🐶 plus these theories are so good. You should be hired by marvel

  • @AlMoSiCe210
    @AlMoSiCe210 Год назад +1

    How the Necro Sword spoke to Gorr felt VERY MUCH like how a symbiote speaks to their host...

    • @ASNS117Zero
      @ASNS117Zero Год назад +1

      That's because the Necrosword *is* a symbiote. Or at least it is in the comics. The MCU just can't call it a symbiote because that's a spider-man concept.

    • @AlMoSiCe210
      @AlMoSiCe210 Год назад

      @@ASNS117Zero oh I'm aware; I just really loved how that sequence was handled all around!

    • @josermaiz
      @josermaiz Год назад

      My prediction it’s necrosword is a chaos king creation and darkhold.

  • @isaacvail
    @isaacvail Год назад

    I'd also like to point out that in The Avengers, Loki asks Thor how much dark energy Odin had to muster to send Thor to Earth. I think Odin, in possession of the infinity stones, granted himself some sort of power to become more than he was before, including access to dark energy that can facilitate bifrost travel. This is noteworthy because, if the MCU is following similar principles to our reality's physics, dark energy is as an accelerant for the expansion of the universe. In other words, the continued use of the space stone and the bifrost could be ripping the universe apart, which could be what leads to incursions, or at least a need to preserve as much of reality as possible (see: Battleworld, TVA).

  • @CookinBurgers110
    @CookinBurgers110 Год назад

    But what does it all mean Basel? 😂😂 one of my favorite Austin Powers quotes.

  • @mlc4050
    @mlc4050 Год назад +1

    Ryan Arey: Ugh I stayed up all night coming up with all these secret connections to the necrosword.
    Eric Voss: Hey, can you also put my name on your paper before you hand it in? Please and thank you
    Ryan : I guess....
    Eric : Cool Bro

  • @chakrazoo
    @chakrazoo Год назад

    ahhhhh "rolls eyes" lol have a good weekend guys!

  • @thevoid6989
    @thevoid6989 Год назад

    THANK YOU GORR IS OVERHATED LIKE THE MOVIE AND IMO ITS AMAZING

  • @ryanjayne3455
    @ryanjayne3455 Год назад

    Great Austin Powers reference, Doug!

  • @akshatverma7857
    @akshatverma7857 Год назад

    Loved the Richard Dawkins reference as I am currently reading his book

  • @kanothe187
    @kanothe187 Год назад +1

    I think they needed to add the passage of time, to show Gorr had been on a deicidal quest across the MCU.

  • @Ryan_Perrin
    @Ryan_Perrin Год назад +1

    the richard dawkins reference was great

  • @jarroddblunt4211
    @jarroddblunt4211 Год назад +1

    Still think Cthon while coming eventually. Knull is gonna to be the immediate threat because he was the wielder of the Black Necrosword plus the ebony blade has been retconned in Donny Cates Venom that it was a symbiote that was forged into a sword. Yeah the movies may take some liberties from the comics but I think they'd do a disservice if they didn't take this route, seeing as a piece of symbiote from the end credit of No Way Home could also tie that in.

  • @ericallan920
    @ericallan920 Год назад +1

    I’m leaning more towards the ‘final’ threat being Knull the god of the symbiotes just because he was the necroswords creator, he shares many of his goals with chthone (you know the whole returning to darkness killing gods and reshaping the universe stick), he existed before the Big Bang and has a great hatred to celestials and I believe elder gods so good way to tie it all in, but mainly because I want to see more symbiotes in the mcu (other than the little hint of venom from the new spider man movie)

    • @Worldly_Pitfall3
      @Worldly_Pitfall3 Год назад

      Well they’re leaving that up in the air because if an agreement doesn’t come then knull won’t appear with symbiotes that’s why they called the sword necrosword instead of allblack the necrosword and there was no mention of symbiotes

  • @amirc.6146
    @amirc.6146 Год назад +4

    Why am I low key getting pissed off that no one is mentioning Knull at all? I need ScreenCrush to make a video on Knull in the MCU, I don’t care about Sony at all.

    • @kingkman1027
      @kingkman1027 Год назад

      I agree. Donny Cates introduced Knull in the comics. Would make sense because knull was the God who cut off the Celestial head. So..maybe that explained Knowhere in guardians of the galaxy. I can go on and on but if you know about knull then I'm sure you understand.

    • @amirc.6146
      @amirc.6146 Год назад

      @@kingkman1027 I do. He created All-Black the Necrosword as the first symbiote before Venom and Carnage.

  • @WeaponX327
    @WeaponX327 Год назад +2

    You were half right Gorr was the best sidelined villain so far

  • @The_Infamous_Boogyman
    @The_Infamous_Boogyman Год назад

    Actually a really great theory

  • @darthyoda8170
    @darthyoda8170 Год назад +2

    the Demigurge the God Eater is meant to become Amon-Ra,who was name dropped in the movie

  • @JunereyMills.1234
    @JunereyMills.1234 Год назад

    I like this theory much.

  • @ked49
    @ked49 Год назад +2

    Happy birthday daug

  • @mikelange7319
    @mikelange7319 Год назад

    Love your channel!! Never stop

  • @vidinhadovini
    @vidinhadovini Год назад +2

    Loved the video and the theory, but i kinda think that none of this will happen.Gorr and the necrosword will be forgotten like a one movie thing :(

  • @PhysicsHonors
    @PhysicsHonors Год назад

    It's more complicated than entropy being the villain. Time exists because of entropy.

  • @nevan6815
    @nevan6815 Год назад

    Marvel needs to hire you. The MCU WIULD BE SO MUCH better if you wrote the plot

  • @ArcRevenant
    @ArcRevenant Год назад

    Nice The Great Mouse Detective reference you slipped in there.

  • @themeanhornet1070
    @themeanhornet1070 Год назад

    Happy Birthday Doug!

  • @seanwelch71
    @seanwelch71 Год назад

    Entropy can be better understood as information we can never know. The number of feathers on Earth, the number of dead stars in the sky, etc.

  • @bw9505
    @bw9505 Год назад +2

    THE GREAT SCARLET WITCH 😍🔥 would've disposed of gorr much easier than thor and jane 😤☝️😎

  • @samurexatlas7373
    @samurexatlas7373 Год назад +1

    Wait a minute...
    7 statues, 7 deeply ancient relics, OH MY GODS ONE OF THE SACRED GODS MADE THE NECROSWORD!
    Eternity likely made the Space Stone, the very reason you need the Bifrost/Space Stone to meet them.

  • @c187rocks
    @c187rocks Год назад +1

    Tune in Monday for the big announcement of the announcement being pushed back to Wednesday!

  • @earthboundman5
    @earthboundman5 Год назад

    Ryan Arey blueballing us with that announcement, anyway I think we should all wish the dog a happy birthday 🎉

  • @stephenwilliamson8012
    @stephenwilliamson8012 Год назад

    "Somehow, Cthon has returned!

  • @djfronkiejay
    @djfronkiejay Год назад

    Im just here for the zbiotics

  • @guyfromdogtownb7985
    @guyfromdogtownb7985 Год назад

    Gorrs scares are from a deletes scene where he tears his holy tattos off, ripping his flesh , After killing his God. Guess Disney said that was too much.

  • @reffer5770
    @reffer5770 Год назад

    And how does the ten rings and the bangal tie into that ?
    + Adam
    + FF
    + Mutants
    + Incursions
    My guess on the Necrosword is that its forged by Death. And it wants Gods, because their Souls are more powerful than the regular people.

  • @TomCla93
    @TomCla93 Год назад

    SCREAMING INTO THE VOID!

  • @Thr33.Sid3z
    @Thr33.Sid3z Год назад

    Those who know, know that the "NecroSword" is actually "All-Black" the original Symbiote created by Knull the Symbiote God. However, since Sony owns the rights to Venom, they had to change it. The MCU version is simply called the NecroSword. Only problem with doing this is that NecroSwords are obsidian blades created by Hela.
    "A necrosword, courtesy of the Asgardian Goddess of Death."
    -TANELEER TIVAN TO T'CHALLA
    So... Since they couldn't use the actual origin story for All-Black, they went the lazy route and just didn't create one.
    Trying to theorize anything else is useless.

  • @ProPhile
    @ProPhile Год назад

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY DOUG!!! 🎂🎁🥳😂🤪

  • @WenderPottery
    @WenderPottery Год назад

    Happy birthday Douggie boy!

  • @KimHanbinTastyAsfck
    @KimHanbinTastyAsfck Год назад +1

    Mephisto: ❎
    Chthon: ☑️
    Edit: But can't Wanda do spontaneous creation with Chaos magic? If creation is life then chaos magic gives life. Hence, Chthon isn't Entropy.

  • @KmatuX
    @KmatuX Год назад +1

    Was the announcement all the friends we made along the way?

  • @rprlunn93
    @rprlunn93 Год назад

    I think they sticking to the Knull and Necrosword storyline as they clearly showed the multiverse spiderman and Venom links

  • @fajarmaulana5328
    @fajarmaulana5328 Год назад

    Nice

  • @barbarapayne6945
    @barbarapayne6945 Год назад +1

    Hela refers to herself as the goddess of death in Ragnarok. I’m assuming that the entity of death is different than Hela. Could it be possible that Hela’s sword has dark magic and corrupted her?

  • @ScottRobsco
    @ScottRobsco Год назад

    Richard Dawkins... That was hilarious!

  • @Peavey311
    @Peavey311 Год назад +3

    Am I misremembering or did we not get that scene you use often in the Thor L&T videos where Gorr is on a beach and the Necrosword comes to his hand? Seems like we didn't get A LOT of scenes in this one.

    • @thimmyshadowolf
      @thimmyshadowolf Год назад +1

      it's probably some unused scene that only appeared in the teasers and trailers

  • @ShadyPaperclips
    @ShadyPaperclips Год назад

    Kevin Feige should definitely hire you 😂

  • @JesusChrist-yw4hw
    @JesusChrist-yw4hw Год назад +2

    So if this is the case, why do they allow objects that could possibly threaten their existence keep existing? Like the dark
    Hold, is Kathone put his essence in these things for him to be able to come back one day why don’t the elder gods get rid of it

  • @rafaellariosa4815
    @rafaellariosa4815 Год назад +1

    Isn’t it convenient that the previous owner of the sword just happens to wanted to slay Gorr’s god so he can be there when the sword is up for grabs

    • @kreiyu
      @kreiyu Год назад +1

      well the sword is of the shadow realm and Gorr's god was a god of light. and if the previous wielder was out killing gods before Gorr, that god might have just been next on the list. but being a god of light is probably what helped him kill the previous sword owner. but Gorr helped get a sneak attack in lol.

  • @debbralehrman5957
    @debbralehrman5957 Год назад +1

    Monday really!
    As far as Gor and who was behind his killing spree I think you might have some thing there.

  • @DefConprime28
    @DefConprime28 Год назад +4

    Knull existed before this universe thus proving the sword existed before this time.

  • @janmitchell3976
    @janmitchell3976 Год назад +1

    perhaps including deadpool in death storyline

  • @deonisveryrare
    @deonisveryrare Год назад

    Missed shadow the hedgehog “chaos” opportunity

  • @bonnaventuremwela9859
    @bonnaventuremwela9859 8 месяцев назад

    What if Gorr succeeded his mission by wishing all the God's dead, what would he be doing next? Or what would the sword still have value?

  • @BYERE
    @BYERE Год назад +6

    Question. If the Bifrost was created using the power of the Space Stone/Tesseract... how come Stormbreaker can summon the Bifrost too? The stone wasn't used in its creation at all.

    • @riteshkumbhare4955
      @riteshkumbhare4955 Год назад

      Good question

    • @BYERE
      @BYERE Год назад +1

      @@riteshkumbhare4955 In a later video, it was pointed out that Odin could have infused the mould used to cast Stormbreaker with the energies of the Space Stone... possibly... There's no actual evidence in the MCU of this, but it makes sense.

  • @lilrockd
    @lilrockd Год назад +3

    Why has nobody thought that maybe they would go the comic route for the necro sword at first it didn’t have any ties but later on it did. They could just wait until they get Spider-Man and etc back from Sony so they could introduce all black down the line. And for some people that don’t know the necro sword was made when the celestial I think invaded all blacks space essentially. All black was the darkness before the Big Bang he was there from the beginning then the celestials did what they did and he didn’t like that very much so he made a weapon that could kill them.

    • @kreiyu
      @kreiyu Год назад +1

      my thoughts too. and marvel is still going to do three more spiderman movies, and we know that there is a symbiote spawn out there that knows who spiderman is. so we will get a venom for the 616 universe. then we might see some hint of knull.

  • @Demonslate
    @Demonslate Год назад

    Can you add Butters from South Park saying 'chaos!'

  • @DefConprime28
    @DefConprime28 Год назад +3

    Remember a little bit of venom was left in this universe. Secondly remember venom said to Eddie Brock he would give him a glimpse of the multiverse not the universe a glimpse of the multiverse. Thus proving k n u l l is inter universal. Therefore that storyline can work here. Especially with the spiral symbol that is on the fallen God's wrist you just got to tweak the filters a little bit you will see the dragon logo on the chest and a red spider symbol on the right arm by the sword

    • @kingkman1027
      @kingkman1027 Год назад

      About time someone is on track here. Knull was cutting celestials heads. So...maybe the place Knowhere in Guardians of the galaxy in one of those celestials.

  • @LdyVaJedi
    @LdyVaJedi Год назад +1

    The Necrosword is also similar to Soul Edge.

  • @twmurphy7448
    @twmurphy7448 Год назад

    Fantastic comments Doug. Keep up the good work. Ryan needs your help. Oh, happy Birthday (just in case it is).

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman2185 Год назад

    These theories seem to be coming into focus, we have Kang threatening chaos and destruction in the multiverse (which is sort of like all time and space) and Chthon threatens all of existence. I can’t imagine how the MCU could ever up the stakes even more after these villains.

  • @ebelesaurus2
    @ebelesaurus2 Год назад

    i'm convinced that theory youtubers do more work connecting dots between all the franchise entries, than the actual writers lol. like bro. i know for a FACT these people that ACTUALLY work for marvel studios have don't care enough to think this far ahead. in fact i bet the watch videos like this in the writers room and just go with the theory with the most views on the channel with the most subscribers. i would

  • @jasongallagher5464
    @jasongallagher5464 Год назад

    Question: When Hulk encounters The Ancient One in Endgame, she tells him that if they take their stones it will send their timeline into chaos so that’s why she doesn’t want to give it up. Then back in the present Thanos straight up destroys all the stones in that timeline so that should be pretty bad for them right?

  • @flakeandairvlogs5587
    @flakeandairvlogs5587 Год назад +3

    Wait what if the necro sword is actually knull’s consciousness trying to make the universe back to darkness

    • @ultramorph6985
      @ultramorph6985 Год назад

      Too bad Sony owns Knull

    • @flakeandairvlogs5587
      @flakeandairvlogs5587 Год назад

      @@ultramorph6985 bruh kevin feige can destroy the Sony cinematic universe since incursion with vulture in that universe

    • @ultramorph6985
      @ultramorph6985 Год назад

      @@flakeandairvlogs5587 Pretty sure that doesn't always how Incursions work, Remember Black Widow in What If that got sent to the Eps 3 Universe, Yeah that Didn't Cause an Incursion, So no, I know Morbius is a Movie of all time that is not a really great movie but still no

  • @edwinbloemendaal1519
    @edwinbloemendaal1519 Год назад

    I don’t think there has ever been anyone who is always right, but your theories always make sense and are interesting. PLUS you aren’t a minion of Mephisto. What’s not to like? Of course there is your mom…

  • @dangerousleeabrams6737
    @dangerousleeabrams6737 Год назад

    Gorrs scars over his tattoos are tallys of his god kills, and!...are actually caused by physical corruption from the necrosword.