THOR: Love and Thunder POST CREDITS and ENDING EXPLAINED
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SPOILERS! Love and Thunder expands the Marvel Cinematic Universe to add a nee, super-powerful god tot he roster of the Avengers: The son of Zues, Hercules--played by none other than Brett Goldstein from Ted Lasso. We also saw Jane go to Vahalla, and Thor is now a single dad. Bu what does all this mean for the future of Thor, Asgard, and the MCU? How will these characters return? We explain.
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Thor Love and Thunder is awesome, and there is so much to talk about after that wild ending. Seriously, this movie was like a rollercoaster of massive reveals to the future, so many new characters, so many new elements and stories for the MCU.
And we gotta explain everything.
What happened to Jane, and what’s the deal with Valhalla. What’s next for Thor and Love.
And of course, we have to talk about Hercules, who means so many cool things for the future. Also, we need to address how this movie sets up the return of Loki and so many other Asgardians.
Ok, let’s begin with the movie’s ending, that’s all the crazy stuff that happened even before the two huge credits scenes. We will get to those a little later in this video.
The big climax of the movie takes place in the center of the universe. Just saying this outloud is insane.
Gorr the Godbutcher seeks out Eternity, a being who can grant him any wish. And Gorr’s wish is to kill all the gods.
Gorr is successful in getting to Eternity, but before we talk about what that all means, we must address these two massgive reveals. Eternity and the center of the universe are huge!
First, Eternity. This entity is one of the most important beings in the universe. Scratch that, Eternity is literally the freaking universe. He and his sister, Infinity, are the embodiment of the entire universe.
Let me emphasize that, Love and Thunder just introduced a being who represents the sum total of all things in existence.
Eternity is nigh omnipotent, he is able to control time, space, reality and even magic. Again, he is the embodiment of the universe, he’s basically a god.
So granting wishes is certainly in his wheelhouse.
Though, Eternity usually appears only when the universe is in grave danger. In the comics, he’s not really compelled to grant wishes to anyone.
But it’s a detail that was changed for the MCU. Also, at this point it’s unclear if we will see Infinity.
But the introducing Eternity is getting us one massive step closer to exploring the MCU on a whole other scale. A scope that explores the building blocks of the multiverse itself.
Speaking of, we recently got a tease to the Living Tribunal, who is basically Eternity’s boss. He embodies the highest authority in the Multiverse.
All of this is setting up huge things for the future, espacily the upcoming multiverse war.
Then there’s the center of the universe. That’s the mysterious dimension where Eternity resids. The way to get there is through the temple with all the statues of godly entities.
The center of the universe appears as
reality of infinite pool of water.
It kind of looks like soul-world, only blue. It also reminds me a bit of the tesseract reality from Interstellar.
And inside the pool world, we see Eternity.
Since it’s where Eternity is located, that means that the center of the universe is literally that, the center of the universe.
It’s a reality that allows Eternity to be perceived as a physical manifestation.
So yeah, this is just like the ending of interstellar, in the sense that your brain needs to do some serious acrobatics to comprehend this place.
The center of the universe is likely the MCU’s version of the heart of the universe from the comics.
Though, the heart of the universe is not a place, instead an artifact that grants omnipotent powers. So the MCU took it in a very different direction.
So yeah, Love and Thunder just introduced some huge elements in the MCU.
In the end, Thor convinces Gorr to stop and not kill all the gods, and instead bring his daughter back to life.
And Thor promises to take care of the child.
So in the end, Gorr is kinda redeemed.
[clip: you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain]
Or if you do become the villain, make sure you are possessed by an evil sword, because then you can become the hero again. Or just throw a bad guy into a reactor shaft, and then you can come back as a force ghost. 
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I want Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston to play their respective roles in the MCU as long as they can. I feel like they were born to play these roles.
Absolutely! Tom Holland too. Tom keeps going back and forth on leaving the role. Gives me anxiety lol but those 3 are perfectly fit for the roles.
@@jordanbomb32 also Tony Stark played by RDjr. Sadly we know how that ends 😪
Absolutely I cant even picture thor anymore. N it would make sense as far as story because in comics thor is so old looking hes like a million years old so Chris has a shot at playing him as king thor. What if 50 movies down the line they actually end the mcu n have thor vs galactus vs silver surfer vs thanos vs ghost rider. I think that's the last survivors
Well, Chris Hemsworth said he'll keep playing Thor for as long as they'll let him. I hope he sticks around for another 10 years in the MCU.
Weird
I didn't realize, thanks for pointing it out, that Thor adopted the orphan child of his enemy he kinda killed, just like his dad did with his brother; the weight on Thor to be a good dad, having not known that himself; and how him and Love are orphans with found families
It would be great story for the final Chris story his adopted daughter takes revenge
Except odin did in fact directly kill loki's original parents as shown in a previous flashback but gorr was going to die regardless very soon with or without thor fighting him. The curse from the necrosword was going to consume him very soon.
I see Thor adopting love as that part of Thor who was thinking Abt kids with Jane but never got there Jane dying and all as well a interesting turning point for sure also is Loki also an uncle now being thors brother bc that would be some interesting shenanigans on top of having eternity powers 🤔🤔👀👀🤨🤨
@@idunusegoogleplus Odin didn't kill Loki's biological parents, Loki killed his own biological father in Thor. He is the stunted son of the giant king, who abandoned him for being so small, which is how Odin found him in the first place.
I am so confused at this time so I am going to sleep before I go to sleep
The shot from overhead of Thor sharing his powers with the Asgardian children resembles the shape of a tree, like the Tree of Life.
"The World Tree"?
Definitely is referencing the World Tree.
Yggdrasil, the world tree
And when gorr burries his daughter in the desert at the beginning, he places 7 rocks along the top of the mound representing the 7 chakras!
The elden tree?
I ALWAYS think Loki should return, every time he’s “killed off.” And, I keep hoping he’ll come back and be a good brother. But when Thanos said he would not come back to life, I was devastated!
He’s still alive in the TVA.
Watch ummm LOKI LOL
He is back but Thor doesn’t know it yet
I like to think that the older Loki we saw in the Loki series, who faked his death and hid, is the 616 Loki, and perhaps that the main Loki from the series will find him and convince him to come out of hiding.
@@spacebass79g98 That's not the original Loki though. TVA Loki is one of many Loki variants like the lady Loki (Sylvie), the older Loki, the child Loki, the gator Loki and many many more, that we've seen at the end of time. This one is close to the original, because he was basically "created" as a side effect of the time travel in Endgame. TVA Loki comes from the 2012 branch of the Sacred Timeline, not from the Sacret Timeline itself.
Same with 2014 Thanos, 2014 Nebula and 2014 Gamora. Original Gamora is still dead, sacrificed by Thanos on Vormir for the Soul stone. 2014 Gamora is a different person, but she's still close to the original, though she doesn't know, who Quill is, she didn't live through those events. When Nebula killed her "younger version", the original Nebula should perish, right? She killed her past self. But that's not, how things in Endgame work, she killed a 2014 Variant of herself, a version from a branched Timeline. A separate being, close enough to the original, but coming from a branched Timeline
The exact same stuff applies to 2014 Thanos. When Tony snapped Thanos out of existence, he did so to 2014 Variant, not the original Thanos, so it didn't undo anything the original Thanos did since 2014, including collecting all the stones, killing Vision, Loki and Gamora and snapping half the universe.
So in conclusion TVA Loki is not the original Loki and the original is still dead, killed by Thanos in Infinity War. If Loki comes back from Valhalla (assuming he is there), then that would be the real (original) Loki.
My favorite thor moment is when he realized that despite the weight ,and depression mjolnir coming back to him gave him confidence that he was still worthy. It showed how a broken man can be revived with the right motivation!❤ and sometimes all it takes is a single right moment!
Yeah Mjolnir seems to be what always convinces him of who he is inside. He needs the hammer in the mcu because it convinces him that he is still worthy as a person. Like we saw in Endgame and here.
all those moments can be brought back to when he first became worthy again to defeat the destroyer. That will always be my favorite Thor moment. That song playing while he gets his powers back is the best super hero theme next to the man of steel.
One of the things I realized, when Thor enchanted Mjolnir to protect Jane, is that whether a person was worthy to wield Mjolnir was always based on whether Odin would view them as worthy. Tho I'm not sure if Odin's enchantment still applies or got overwritten by Thor's, as the reason Jane could wield Mjolnir was because it was trying to protect her from the cancer.
@@andriyp3741 odins enchantment still is in effect I think that is why Thor gave stormbreaker to Love. She can't wield mjolnir and Thor didn't seem to put together that he had/can enchanted the hammer at least not until he does the same with the thunderbolt
I could see Hercules and Thor fighting to the death, but right before they are about to kill one another. Hercules says....................Martha, and they are friends after😉
Lmao, DCEU fans shaking in their boots rn
Except that....Hercules and Thor will join together to fight villain Zeus...
@@maxieyoo541 Yeah, this. They'd see too much to like about each other. They'd definitely fight, but not to the death.
Did anyone else notice the opening music during the intro where they show the logo sounded a hella lot like the justice league cartoon intro
or athena rebelling since shes always been a rebel even in the real greek mythology that zeus feared her at some point.
I enjoyed this movie a lot. The reason why; I was going to watch this movie with my father but he passed away before I could. So both of my parents are gone and as introvert they felt like the whole world to me. Then when I watched this movie with my little brother it felt like we really needed this movie. He loves super heroes and his favorite is Thor. Seeing Thor, so strong and with super powers, he’s still vulnerable and relatable to anyone, loss. And then I enjoyed the message; even when everything seems dark and lost; there’s always something worth it. Then the jokes made him laugh and after these dark days for us it means the world to me to see him laugh
I'm sorry you couldn't watch it him, but; at least you and your brother have eachother and watched it together. I love a good movie/show/video game every once in a while because it is a great escape from reality and can really motivate you to make life less boring.
@@tiandi5585 thank you 💕 so do I. It’s just that this movie got bad reviews and I heard many didn’t like it.
@@valeriagallardo2742 Yeah. Sometimes my opinion is with the majority, but sometimes I'm part of the smaller group on liking/disliking a movie. Hoping Guardian of the Galaxy 3 a fun movie.
To be honest the main thing I loved from the movie was Christian Bales portrayal of Gorr… like legitimately I kind of wanted him to win
Agreed. Just wish he had more screen time
Seemed like Bale was phoning it in to me. Like he knew how silly his role was, but honestly it might be the whole tone of the movie. Very Campy. Entertaining, but not the greatest.
Bale as Gorr was awesome, when he just appeared from the dark behind the children was really cool
It made me jump 💯
I initially thought that gorr was going to be a bad portrayal but honestly the tone of the movie made it even better. The fact that humor and stupidity was at the center of these characters who’ve already had everything taken from them at the hands of higher beings, the best.
I wanted Gorr to lose and that's what made Bale's version of the character so well drawn. I don't want my villain's to be heroes. Sympathetic, yes. But they should represent a wayward path. The way Gorr was used was one of the biggest dropped balls in the MCU. This movie could've been among the best in the history of the genre. Instead it was a light distraction. Entertaining but (mostly) fluff.
In Eternity's dimension Love's reflection made her look like Singularity to me. Idk if I misinterpreted it, as I wasn't really aware Thor actually had kids. Anyways the movie was great tho it moved very fast, wish they added like 20-30 minutes more so it might not have felt as rushed and characters like Valkyrie could have gotten more screentime, also for someone who's name is Gor the GODBUTCHER, he really did not butcher that many gods on screen, wish we had seen some more.
exactly
was hoping to see at least 1 or 2 fights not just images of gods you can barely recognise like cmon
hes killing tons of god
@@Rumym8 Exactly that
I think that's infinity not singularity because that's simply not possible as all those infinity, eternity exist inside the singularity.
I just wanna hear korg dax and Louis have a conversation recapping g the whole of the mcu
YES - it absolutely looks like Singularity (A-Force, 2015/2016). Which means we just need Dazzler & maybe Nico (if the Nico from Hulu’s Runaways is no longer the MCU Nico) and we’ll have the entire A-Force - just in time for the aftermath of the multiversal wars.
I think the center of the universe appeared as an infinite body of water because that’s what Gorr was initially praying for. Water
Good insight
Good idea
It reminded me of kingdom hearts 3, the final world
It basically was where Thanos went re-colered
@@ccelite3782sole is also know as heart. The heart of the universe could be named the center of the universe thus the center of the universe could be the same as the soal of infinity or soal world
After the last end credit scene “Thor will Return”. For its a double meaning as it could mean both Thor and Lady Thor and in the movie Jane didnt want to be called Lady Thor, but Mighty Thor.
Eternals 2
Dealing with hurcales
@@masonkline2644 Hurrciles
@@enoyna1001 Hercules
@@masonkline2644 So you DO know how to write his name
Jane is welcome to Valhalla due to her selfless involvement defending New Asgard. Her sacrifice to save them made her “worthy” of this honor.
Valhalla is for those who die in battle. Jane was not in battle when she died, therefore no Valhalla for her.
@@brianl8481 In the non-MCU verse, sure but the MCU is team participation award. Everyone is special here.
@@LaDanteRiley Didn’t Thor tell Sif that she needed to die in battle to go to Valhalla?
@@brianl8481 She died in the battle with cancer. That's probably the reasoning that Marvel used in addition to her sacrifice in that fight.
I think that calling Gorr's daughter Love was also a play of words when Thor said "It's not revenge or death you seek, ... you seek Love"
Another thing I noticed was Jane pleading with Thor to ‘keep his heart open’. Now we have two legendary heroes who have something in common with an upcoming hero, She-Hulk. Both Thor and Hercules had relationships with the Jade Giantess and that could make for a humorous subplot of Thor 5.
Yikes!! That might just be too much for my palate 😅
If you looked closely at the scene when Love came back to life and was walking to Gorr you saw the reflection of her in the water wasn't Love but Eternity.
It's singularity, not eternity.
I've only seen it in the comments but it's said explicitly that to go to Vallhalla you have to die in battle not after which is why Sif decided after Thor said what he did that she wanted to live.
Jane died after the battle was over, the battle between gor and the gods. But her own personal battle with cancer was where she lost her life and her fight against the deadly disease is what earned her place in Valhalla. And I am so upset others arnt getting that it's such an Empowering thing for anyone who suffers from cancer.
You are worthy to be accepted into the hall of the universe greatest champions for your brave fight against the disease. Just come oooonnnnn
Nah..I get that ..very well put
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I was very mad about the last few marvel movies, but WOW Thor Love and Thunder was awesome, just love it, the fun, the terror, the music, the cgi, the love story
Your easily pleased the film.was shit
small thing amuse small minds, your proof of that lol the movie sucked balls!
It was complete cringe 😬
@@mitchgarbeno3788 I’m not a marvel fanboy or anything, and I thought this movie had way too much comedy for a thor movie. The previous entries were much more serious and on this entry no matter how serious anything was, they had to crack a joke so it was hard to take anything truly serious if that makes sense. I get that thor was hanging out with the guardians so maybe their silliness rubbed off on him but man, is this an action movie about a god or a comedy movie about one?
@@ValkenDnB How is Love and thunder more comedic than Ragnarok?
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I think Jane and heimdall are going to come back in another mcu movie. I hope they make a tv show based around Valkyrie. I felt like she was barely in the movie. Disney should release a directors cut of tl&t. It was too short.
I felt like the whole movie was her. The point of having a villain was kinda silly he was in it for 20 min.
Well if they base it off the current marvel storyline Valkyrie will take Heimdall’s spot and Jane will take Valkyrie’s, even though the MCU loosely base’s their story off comic canon I could see this being the case over resurrecting Heimdall.
I loved it when Thor gave the kids his power. One of my favorite parts of the movie.
Thor didn’t give his power it was the bolt if you listen to him he says “Give these children the power of Zeus….”
@@sierrabaker4565 I don't remember that.
The kid with the bear, that sit was awesome!
I think Jane's death bring weight to this overall 'funny" movie, and if everyone can come back to life there are just no stake anymore
I’m still sad she died ☹️
I hate how they straight up killed her.
She had opportunity to join the new team of Avengers, and possibly form a relationship with Sam Wilson like in the comics...
@@ccelite3782 exactly they just bring her back just to kill her but I mostly feel bad for Thor :(
@@ccelite3782 she had cancer and she dies in the comics
Yeah like this isn't dragon ball z
Awesome Villian, which we could’ve seen more of his god killings to have him seem more of threatening.
Yeah I feel like they did him dirty at the end. Considering he can go to multiple realities in the comics and torchers the Thor of different universes. But I will hold my full judgement of what I thought of gorr till everything is fully revealed. After all the MCU is playing 3D chess and we’re all mearly playing connect 4 lol
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ikr,marvel always likes to give us 3 fight scenes.Shouldve had a bit of the movie just seeing him tortuing all the gods
I don't get why MCU movies are still under 3 hours!! 😭😭😭 They have already cut too much
i kinda wished for him to straight up kill atleast 2 or 3 gods in the golden palace scene, but then that would convince the other gods to help.
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Thank you for always uploading!!
The serious points in this movie hit. And that is why I wanted more of them. The Guardians didn’t need to be there. Should’ve filled that time with Gorr scenes of killing Gods. Could’ve explored Jane more. This movie forced jokes that didn’t need to be there and skipped over the truly good parts of this movie. Still a really good movie but I was kind of let down. 6.5/10
But the Guardians stuff shows Thor as an arrogant ball hog and it’s needed to let him develop into a selfless dad
Disagree. Showing Gorr killing other gods would just be unless eye candy, whereas if you think about it the Guardians are the best mirror to Thor's situation - every single one of the Guardians had lost someone they love, but they picked themselves up and continues on being goofballs and living their moments, embodying Star Lord's speech about it's better to fill shitty rather than empty. They are the only ones who can actually plant the seed to convince Thor to move on and keep growing, so when Thor quoted Star Lord's speech as inspiration to acknowledge his feelings for Jane, it has weight to it.
I really like your take here and I think it mirrors what I thought about this movie as well. I think that the movie skipped over the good parts of the movie. They really could have dove into Jane's internal struggle more and less into the silly parts. That being said, I think I'm biased because I want the Thor movies to be serious when they are meant to be lighthearted like the Guardian's movies.
Ending with a .5? Gross.
I didn't mind that the Guardians were there... however the entire film was played for laughs... and most of them fell short. The result was a film that felt like it was a spoof of the series - afraid to actually show any emotional depth... Nothing was allowed to be serious - everything had to be undercut by humour meaning character arcs like Jane's cancer diagnosis and Gorr's loss of his child weren't given the attention they needed... The whole film felt unbalanced.
Thank you Screen Crush. Speaking as an Ol' head that's been watching Marvel since Blade, I appreciate you actually knowing what's going on and pointing out relevant ee and showing your knowledge/research of the comics.
Your page is always the first place I head after a marvel movie or show. Superb content as always!
I loved the movie! It’s my second favorite Thor movie behind Thor ragnarok and just what the doctor ordered with the craziness in the world. It was full of awesome action scenes, had tons of humor, different tales of love and lost, and got me super pumped to head to the gym! Again great video too! Thanks
beautiful editing, ScreenCrush :)
Ryan, I interpreted how Eternity was described by Gorr as "The Center of the Universe" means that in the MCU Eternity is not the universe itself, but some very powerful part of it. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Eternity is just one of the embodiments of the universe along with infinity. Then there’s the living tribunal above them and the one above all
@@evanveres7483 bro they might not do it like that. The mcu switches everything up most of the time. Keep an open mind
@@evanveres7483 eternity is the only embodiment of the universe the others u stated represent other duality’s
@@too_official6194 Eternity and Infinity are the only embodiments of the universe, Eternity embodying time and Infinity space.
There's also Creation
So the post credits with Jane got me thinking that the barrier between the afterlife realms and the mortal plane will probably be destroyed or crack like they talk about in Ms. Marvel. Lots of afterlife talk in recent stuff and I highly doubt they keep Jane dead (but it's possible)
Thank you for making this video 👍
Love this guy and his content!!!!
The reflection of Gorr's daughter coming back to life in the water looked ominous...as well as her disobedience to her adopted father... wish Gorr could have been shown as the butcher he is in the comics...seeing him create victims would have made him more convincing as a threat instead of scaring children with stories...also his learning of the need for the bifrost was thinly explained...and how does he get around to different locals wasn't clear... highlight of the movie was the kids fighting the shadow monsters...
Story time with Gorr did rule tho. I loved that scene. Obviously they need to edit these pictures down so they're more digestible for movie goers. But they should start letting these movies be closer to 3 hours. More story and more answers would for sure be welcome. But that would probably hurt ticket sales unfortunately. I would have loved a 3 hour Love and Thunder tho. It doesn't deserve the hate on rotten tomatoes that's for true
He started all to avenge his daughter, he wasn't enough evil to hurt children, he wanted to end the awful gods
All accurate
Bro what? The movie don’t even come out till tommorow how do y’all got access to this?
@@KidKomical It’s Thors-Day Previews in the States.
The movie was nice but there was to much comedy in it.
Even many serious scenes was just a let down
They didn't explain who was the wielder of The sword nor did they explore ETERNITY who is such a powerful and imp character in the comics
Def end was dramatic and cant wait to see whats ahead with all that which came
The comedy is what I can't stand, Taika has made Thor into a damn joke, everything's a joke yet people can't see it. When the Russos directed Chris in Infinity War, they managed to make him likable without cracking jokes every 5 mins so clearly it can be done, he doesn't need to be the MCUs comic relief.
Thanks for the info 👍 enjoyed it.
Thank you for your input
Sweet Child of Mine had a meaning by the end of the movie, so adorable
Slash was a callback to the sword
So yrue
Don’t forget Dio in the credits, with the totally thematic “Rainbow in the Dark.”
I am praying that Love’s return from death is something that angers Death enough to make an appearance. The character of Death might have been too absurd for the three phases of the MCU, but I hope that Feige continues to channel Frank Reynolds and get real weird with it.
May not happen. Death is currently married to Wade Wilson, unless MCU redoes Deadpool. Though, that would be a great way for this guy to be part of MCU.
Wonderfully done
honestly hoped we get to see more of Jane Foster Might Thor, quite disappointed they killed her off since she has a good comic run
While I somewhat agree, I can see why they had to kill her in order for the ending to have the impact that it did.
I assumed that Natalie Portman didn't want to be tied down to another franchise but the ending suggested she may come back.
I suspect she was killed off in the comics because a lot of people saw through the bs associated with this character, in other words she wasn't that popular so she was red shirted. Only reason she got an honorable death was to save face.
i seem to remember the actress saying she wanted out of the MCU
@@TJKash Rewatch Thor and Thor Dark World. You would be able to understand. Even Chris was losing interest in Thor until Ragnorok.
I loved how Taika Waititi took some elements from the series "The Boys", like when Thor says 'Never meet your Heroes' to the kids after events with Zeus, And in the climax fight when Thor grants his power to the kids one of the kid uses her stuffed toy and laser beams the shadow monsters like in The Boys S1 hospital scene😉
Also the relation between Thor and Stormbreaker kinda felt like relationships of Timothy/and other fishes with The Deep 🤣😂
So pretty much they copied it scene for scene. I knew this movie was mid, seeing it just reinforced that
Yeah the seen where thor shrinks down and climbs inside zues Peniss then sneezes and kills zuse was mad. It did make me laugh when Korge put thor in a bag of coke though
@@megadong2398 Not sure how you came to that conclusion, but you do you King Dong
@@dylanrb88 you're probably the guy who did the McChicken in 2016
I really liked this movie. Thor and Lokis reunion is going to be so nice. After everything he’s lost getting something back would be nice. (Even though James return is likely)
How do u know if there ever going to reunion?
@@Zack-hb4eh because it would make them a lot of money
The fact you think this movie was good Is quite sad
He has a niece now at least
@@ogshini7604 the best marvel movie in 2021 and 2022. literally the first and only movie i almost cried. and i NEVER cry in anything especially movies. i havent cried in YEARS generally, even if its in terms of heartbreak or literal death. the romance or deaths in the movie arent even the ones that made me cry. its the start of the climax scene, wont tell what it is though
Amazing vid. Nerded out big time. Love it
What a great theorycrafting video sir. Thank you, that scratched an itch I didn’t know I had.
Your "Jane as a Valkyrie" theory makes a lot of sense, especially since Gorr was so quick to note how alone Valkyrie must have been after her sisters died.
It would make a lot of sense for her to get her sister back in this universe!
My guess is that Natalie Portman went to Valhalla because she doesn't want to committ to additional movies. They aren't going to shut doors just in case but my guess is Jane is probably gone. Portman used a convenient excuse to exit the role prior to Ragnorok and i just don't think remaining in MCU movies is something she wants to focus on. They gave her the Scarlett Johaneson treatment. They gave her an offer to have an out and leave on a high note. This let's her retain her MCU fans while not having to say she doesn't want to participate anymore
Ya I'd like to see her back, but I'd bet my house this is the last time Natalie Portman appears in the MCU in anything other than a short cameo
...they'll bring her back as Valkyrie...She'll despise men and crave women...making THOR 5 the gayest Thor movie of them all! This will please the twitter mob who use pronouns in their bio. ☺
@@rayharvey1330 Perhaps Hollywood wouldn't need to be so heavy-handed with certain themes if other Twitter mobs (and some literal mobs) were less threatened by and more tolerant of those themes.
@@jdaigre150 I'm going to dress up as a woman...and try to pick up HOT lesbians to show I'm an ally...
THANKS so much for this! Since I read that debut "Strange Tales" Eternity story in a 1970s Dr. Strange Pocketbooks edition, I have a lot of catching up to do :) and these videos help greatly!
I’m watching this b4 work stressed thx for relaxin me wit this vid
This video was mind-blowing
If they bring in 2 Lokis, that is literally a perfect way to adapt the Agent of Asgard comics as his arc there surrounds how he has to move forward while trying to reconcile with his past selves.
They can totally just introduce kid Loki right off the bat in the next movie. It would be amazing to see Jane and Thor adopt him and raise kid Loki and Love together. That way they have the same sibling relationship as Thor and Loki.
and love will be the sister
A above average video, not thats unusually for you, good work sir and thank you.
I like your theories connecting the two post credit scenes. Definitely would love for them to do this in Thor 5 with Tika as the director.
This is my favorite thor movie!!
If they do bring Loki back I want them to have him meet Love. Both being defiant towards Thor and rivaling each other only to get along at the end of the movie
Awesome that will be Awesome!
Saved me money and time ty
Damn, that was awesome. I don't normally comment. But wow, you really had some great analysis that I had never considered. Way to go!! Can't wait for those future movies!
Skurge is probably there he died at the battle against hela. I mean he was there in that valkyrie comics I think, chilling at Valhalla so maybe if Karl urban wants to go back he can.
I do feel like thor might die and reunite with Odin, Jane, his mom, that would be so sad but to close his character arc would mean so much
Can't wait to watch it 🤩
Absolutely loved this movie. Takia never fails. I thought Zeus said Oculus at the end credit due to Crowe's accent. Thanks for telling me he actually said Hercules.
Who else would Zeus be talking if not HERAcles (that’s supposed to be his name if he’s the son of Zeus)
No idea why Zeus had that accent. Made him sound ridiculous.
@@Darion350 He's a Greco-Roman god so the accent is plausible, but also played for laughs.
@@ericjefferson6249 Yeah, it just sounded too much on the silly side for me to take him seriously. He's supposed to be the God of Gods. He just seemed like an idiot in a skirt.
"The tribunal is the highest authority of the multiverse"
The watcher: And I took that personally
I thought we were gonna see Sif’s arm in Valhalla
6:41 I have fond memories of that movie.
11:14 & 16:13 Beta Ray Bill and Ares both appeared as sculptures on the Grandmaster’s Palace in Thor: Ragnarok.
13:27 We don’t actually know if Tyr is dead.
I like how they depicted Eternity in the movie extremely accurate.
The Necrosword was an amazing inclusion (im honestly hoping for the Symbiotes to come into the MCU)
didnt have anything to do with it necro swordin name only.
@@xsvrrx sonys fault tbh, they own the property of symbiotes and everything related to it
Sadly they can’t since Sony owns Spider Man and anything related to the character’s villains
Honestly, Spider-Man has so many characters that affect the comics in big ways.
Sony needs to give up Spidey to Disney
No way home is setting it up
I was thinking maybe Love could related to the character singularity, only cos they looked a little similar at some point.
That is what I thought of immediately although I could not remember her name only that she debuted (I think) in the second volume of A-force.
Saaaame!!!!
I'm personally thinking Love will be a combination of Mistress Love and Singularity
Bale performance was amazing. Kinda felt like he took inspiration from Heath’s Joker for the role which was nostalgic to watch
Great job 👏 👍 👌. Great movie 🎬
I was watching “Heavy Spoilers” until I saw your notification. Jumped here asap.
Thank you for mentioning loki in Valhalla I love loki as a character, and especially when played by Tom Huddleston want more loki in the future of MCU.
Such a sick movie! I need to see it again 🥰🥰
The epic split 👌
I really enjoyed this movie! The post credits scene setting up Hercules and Aries has me very excited because I felt like the gods were wasted in this movie
Same
Everything was wasted,shit was mid
@@megadong2398 movies not even out yet
@@antoinewright1425 i watched it 😶
@@antoinewright1425 literally watched it last night lol you must be broke af
Love is being set up as part of the Young Avengers, w/ or w/o Kid Loki, or at least cameos and intersectional stories with them. They might even have a Kid Loki/Love adventure or Disney+ series depending on fan-demand. Perhaps they will do a What IF ... episode featuring them. What they do so well is leave open doors for future storylines, a lesson FINALLY replicated from the comics and what was so lacking in early attempts at live action offerings.
Should Jane Foster return as a Valkyrie to the main MCU, then there will callbacks to her conversations with Tessa T.'s character in this movie and comments like "Team Jane". We might also get flashbacks to Jane's time between the reassembly of Mjolnir and Thor's return to New Asgard. Gorr was Jane's first "bad guy", but she and Valkyrie had time to bond and she (Jane) had tried out"all" of the catch phrases according to Valkyrie..
Also, you need to help push the bandwagon for Valkyrie to get a prequel movie or Disney+ series because she is a total badass character. We want more of her.
This is the best explanation on why i love Love and Thunder! hahaha
There’s a brief shot of Love right after she is resurrected where her body is reflected in the ground and her body is filled with the universe (so she looks just like eternity). I think they are setting up Love to be the MCU’s version of Singularity, the sentient pocket universe that takes form as a young girl and joins A-Force.
It’s a shame most of the critiques revolve around how short the film was of how because of its length of only allowed us to see a little bit of a character. When for M.O.M people had a problem with how long and drawn out the movie felt. No victories i guess😭🤣
Because the real movie is 5 hours long
People will always find something to complain about
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It’s either
-Too long or too short
-Too funny or too boring
-Too lighthearted or too dark
-Not enough action or too much action
-Too much screen time or not enough screen time
-Too complicated plot or too generic plot
-Too comic accurate or not comic accurate
-Too woke or not enough diversity
-Too different or always following the formula
Oh and -Bad CGI
It seems like we live at the moment where a lot of people likes to complain about a lot of things specially MCU nowadays. I learned to ignore the reviews and see it for myself whether I’d like it or not.
Yep. And people complained that Dr. Strange was too dark and violent. And there was too much supernatural stuff in it.
Imagine complaining about too much supernatural stuff in a freaking Dr. Strange movie. Smfh
Pretty sure gaimon from one piece was in the God city for like a second, can't find anything to confirm that was him though
Wow I'm very interested in this build up story line. I like it.
The fact That ppl can jus visit the afterlife means that from now on we don't have to care if a character dies, cuz there are many ways to bring them back
Thor adopting love is a good comparison of Odin adopting Loki
i just hope he doesnt make the same mistake Odin did with Loki. not telling him the truth about his real origin
@@juanhitwonder2218 just feel like that was different Loki was founded as a baby so it was easy to them him lies vs Thor and love she saw her father and she lived with him before Thor so she in a way truly knows herself
Hercules is his superhero name, Heracles is his real name and Alcaeus is his birth name.
Nerd
dang. it's been so long since my last MCU theater movie .. I left after the first post credit scene // should have waited.
I jus got done watching Ted Lasso so it was super dope to see Hercules actor‼️👀
I really don’t like how they rushed these characters like gorr and Jane also loved seeing eternity
I loved this movie until Jane died. I thought it was PERFECT until then. This was the first Marvel movie I've seen in theaters in which NOBODY else was talking or clapping during the end credits. It was utter silence.
my theater was clapping
@@yuan1630 then you theater was lame af
because it was garbage and it sucked
@Jonathan Rodriguez I wish I had a awesome theater reaction, mine is always silent 😂
@@samhong86 like u
There is a sense where Love is walking up to her now dead dad and in the reflections of the water she kinda looks like singularity from the comics.
Just watched Love and Thunder and it was so funny and had me laughing so much I can't even remember like so much of the movie I know that doesn't make sense but that's why I need these videos so I can go back and realize what I just saw and thanks for your attention to detail and the research on all the topics of religious aspects or the fact that it's your mom makes it so much better 😊
Am I the only person who thinks that classic Loki explaining how he survived Thanos will give Loki the idea to do the same thing when the tv show wraps up and he inserts himself back into the timeline.
Do I think the film could have and should have been longer? Hell yeah! We needed like another 30 minutes. That being said I loved it because it was just a fun movie with a lot of heart to it. I can imagine kids are really digging this movie and that's cool. I would LOVE to see Jane be brought back as Valkyrie (Mostly for the outfit) I loved the love story between Thor&Jane and I would like that to continue. I would enjoy watching Loki&Jane being in laws! Would love to see Loki again. Some old Asgardians in Valhalla. Shamelessly if we could get Ragnar, Lagertha & Bjorn to appear that would be sick!
I really like your channel and I appreciate your fair, honest, positive and researched opinion.
Did they ever explain the beekeeper in Wandavision? I keep pretty well read and I never saw it, but I know they removed an episode too. Great video, should be seeing it today. GORR!
i like how that whenever thor gave his power to the kids, the power lightning thingy, the power lightning, thingy, is shot out like yggdrisil, the world tree. just wanted to point that out.
I hope they don't bring anyone back from the dead other than possibly Jane like they did in the comics. Let them stay dead. They can very easily bring any of them in from another universe as they've already done with Loki.
MCU movies seem to have always done two things: tell a self contained story, while world building in the back. They went hand in hand and were connected. Lately, it's felt like these two things are more disconnected. Like Eternity in the plot of THOR 4 is just a genie, and otherwise merely an easter egg. doesn't really feel like world building.
I can see that but to me it seems to be a different kind of worldbuilding if you look at it a different way. The only way to get to Eternity is using the bifrost. A lock made by the gods. The lock needing this "key" means it had to have been designed by Odin who was the only one with the bifrost. The way the look of the door, only Thor or Heimdallr would ever have been able to do this. Makes me think that the timeline is still fully written out, everything is still a circle in the grand scheme of things like we saw in Loki.
it's both worldbuilding and LOREBUILDING
Do you want Eternity to join the Avengers? It is too OP to be anything but a background character.
Lol
Did anyone notice the 1988 Tom Cruise "Cocktail" movie reference .The "Cocktails And Dreams" Bar sign on the deck of Valkyrie's ship.Really thought that was a cool additional Easter egg in the movie 👍💯
I hope Ares meets The Punisher in Thunderbolts and says “I like your shirt.”
Thor & Hercules?! Bring on Mikaboshi & the Chaos War!!
Great movie. Thor 5 will be the biggest Thor movie yet. I feel gorr was a tad rushed tho. I feel like I can’t hold my full judgment till we see what happens with love. There’s so many possibilities that can happen with the conclusion of this movie. The future will be epic as always
I loved the movie but I think a lot of the subtleties might help lead to the secret wars between different characters and the multiverse of different heroes. The new phases should be pretty interesting.
nice