In a way, Mr. Hamelin's astonishing pianistic mastery is a curse, because it tempts some people (including some posting here) to think of him as mere virtuoso entertainment. I do not know Mr. Hamelin well, but I have spent a bit of time with him and can tell you that the music is absolutely his first priority. He is a serious, probing, sensitive musician who comes equipped with great technical mastery, much like Richter or Pollini or Argerich or Zimerman. You may disagree with some of his choices, but I can tell you that his focus in great music is the music, not technical display. This is not to say that he won't occasionally play some display pieces, again, not unlike Pollini or Richter, but Mr. Hamelin is a true musician in the best sense of the word.
One of the best performances I have ever heard. And he is a pianist of pianists. Being free from technical difficulties and with genuine artistic spirit he creates perfect articulation of what this magnificent piece should sound like. Hamelin is a real treasure.
@@dwacheopus undoubtedly better then both combined. had they have been playing on the heavier modern grand we have today, they wouldn't even be able to play half the pieces they wrote, let alone even write them in the first place (I've heard that Alkan couldn't even play some of his own, and Liszt at Hamelin's age had probably already lost his former ability to play, whereas Hamelin still composes and plays at the highest level)
Extraordinary. A bit faster than most versions, as many have noted, but I love the way he shapes the long, rather fast lines so that he sets you down gently at the end of each. Everyone admires MAH's technique, but I really think his musicianship is given less than full credit. This is not just a master pianist but a master musician.
It is the first time I hear Hamelin play this 4th ballad. I must say, first, that I recognize immediately his style: he takes great care to express the composer's notes and notation (incl staccati, slurs and phrasing) but then molds it to his own concept of the piece as a whole - and he is such a good musician that his interpretation is pretty convincing. He is one of the few pianists of today who dare to really interpret, and take risks in that risky realm: the building of a work like this ballad, which is really nothing less than shaping a cathedral out of musical building stones in a matter of no more than ten minutes.
What a ravishing performance - a combination of astounding technique and brilliant musicianship. This is a full minute shorter than most other versions - glorious!
Na, azt én is szívesen meghallgattam volna (időm lett volna rá). Különösen érdekes lett volna az összehasonlítás az 1983-ban készült Goldberg variációk Decca felvételével, amelyik nekem (csak) CD-n van meg.
One of my top twenty favorite pianist (living)... but... as great as this performance is... I never even came close to getting teary eyed... Still... He's the MAN!
Anyone saying this is too fast needs to realize that this is the type of tempo Chopin would've played it in. He was far more conservative with rubato than some people nowadays think. Many people play this piece with so much rubato, and so far under tempo, that it becomes sluggish. It should have a sad, yet elegant/poised feel, not sleepy. The adherence to the intended tempo while still using tasteful rubtato, extraordinarily delicate playing/voicing in the calm moments, and unmatched bravura in the tough spots (especially in the coda), make this the gold standard for 4th Ballade as far as I'm concerned. This interpretation is so under appreciated. Such a shame Hamelin has never done a studio recording of this piece.
with the innumerable amount of different recordings of chopins 4th ballade, discussions about how much one deviates from "chopins intention" or the written tempi is really a useless conversation to have. I think any live performance should just be decent enough, because in the end the music really speaks for itself. A studio recording ought to be more daring however, if one even considers it. Because otherwise it will just be lost in the many recordings we already have that sound exactly the same unfortunately. Of course, this runs the risk of spoiling the pianist's reputation so eh, maybe in the end it is best just to not record them, because inevitably you have nothing to add and more to lose.
Mr CHOPIN .... your music is so full of depth and unique. I do not know of another composer whose music sounds similar to yours. You are truly different from the other composers. Another composer whom I admire greatly as much as you is Brahms. Both of you are beyond amazing!
This music is achingly romantic. Utterly sublime. Painfully beautiful. I adore this Ballade. Adore it. MAH plays with such sensitivity and perfect touch, his phenomenal technique easily disguises the many challenges in this piece for any piano player.
Comparing pianists is, in my view, like arguing which vintage wine is the best. I prefer to simply savour the vintage wine and experience the moment. It’s a beautiful thing.
Here is a pianist who realizes that ”ballata” is the past participle of ”ballare”, to dance. Lights as a feather, where some pianists trample on wearing cloggy boots in vain search of profundity. A truly great performance of a masterpiece in the piano literature.
Apart from the fact that there is definitely a mathematical side to music (or to the universe as a whole, as some theoretical physicists claim), there is no obvious ethymological connection between the Latin verb ”studiare” and the noun ”mathematics”, so forgive me, but I don’t get your point. On the other hand, there is an obvious connection between the verb ”ballare” and the noun ”ballade, ballata” etc, and sure enough the French ballades were originally dancing songs. We tend to forget the physical aspect of music; music is closely related to movements of body and spirit-it is indeed difficult to imagine static music. Just as we should not forget that much of Bach’s music are stylized dances (gigue, allemande, courante, etc) and should be played as such to spring to life, we should bear in mind the dancelike essence in much of Chopin’s music to set free this flow that liberates the human being from the fetters of her physical existence.
This is literally the most pedantic, ridiculous and wrong comments I've ever read on youtube. As mentioned in others' comments, ballade in this context refers to a story or drama. Dance has NOTHING to do with this piece. And while we are at it, this performance is run of the mill. The audience certainly thought so. Yes, it's really fast, ooooh. No, he isn't "shaping" anything and the end of the coda is a blurry mess. No thank you.
Astounding. Heard him do a Mozart piece once years ago, and was hooked ever since. His gift is a complete - league of its own - stand out. Now if I could just find that recording of him doing Mozart's piano concerto no. 17... :-)
The problem doesn't actually rely on how Hamelin plays Chopin. I think it's a wonderful interpretation.Many people associate MAH with his technical mastery and enourmous repertoire including virtually unknown composers, many of these have different styles and lyricism(like Alkan,Medtner,Scriabin,Godowsky,Liszt,Busoni,Catoire,Kapustin,Grainger,Mendelsohnn, and a lot more I don't remember), even his own compositions show his view on the music and his mastery of the instrument.
Once in a while i come back to this performance, and i really think you must be a monstrosity of a pianist to play this piece, as all the other pianists are in my opinion, but this performance stands out: to make everything fall together with such musicality and angularity, you must be something more than a human... It's just crazy to think this was even played by a human... Not only the technique is flawless but the expression is out of this world... It's not metronomic, the voices are perfectly phrased, the piece flows with no noticable mistakes, not that I'd care if Hamelin missed some notes here and there, he's a human too (or is he?) and it's full of energy that doesn't fade away even after the climax... Best pianist alive!🥹
the GREAT "musical world" has been "kidnapped" by an ideology very prevalent in most music schools... and composition has become COMPLETELY academic... and without NEW BEAUTIFUL NEW works that will THRILL an audience, including the folks that knows NOTHING about music... what do you have...?
maybe it's just me but I find this live performance to be one of the best interpretations of this work. Perhaps the tempo is on the high side according to some but in my limited understanding this version seems to bath in the atmosphere of Chopin. The music is played in a sincere way. Who knows maybe that's the most important thing, do what naturally feels best to create a perfect harmony between the vision of the composer and the performer. Hamelin succeeds very well in doing this.
People! Why are you talking about Richter here? Do you have always to compare pianists/musicians? this is why music is dying... I guess! Richter is dead (in case if you are living on another planet and didn't read the memo!) so let's celebrate this great, unique and rare talent, Hamelin is more than just a Pianist, he is a true musician (you should learn the difference)! Wake up!
@@Yubin_Lee_Doramelin well i think those are the qualities of classical music, being able to compare interpretations, where one interpretation can go into a different direction than another
Maybe in 19th century this piece were played within 9 mins, so don't mind the total time...People who understand Hamelin would understand his greatness far beyond other 1st-class pianists...Hamelin and Volodos, Sokolov are the 'big three' of modern piano music world.
@rvn10rvn17 You're very welcome! :) No, I don't have a recording of it. Rumour has it that bootlegs were made and even a radio station recorded one of his concerts which included Gaspard, but I'm unaware of any broadcasts or specific recordings. Sorry.
I WILL NOT COMPARE! I WILL NOT COMPARE! I WILL NOT COMPARE! Have fallen into that trap too many times! Just who in the heck do I think I am? Each artist/musician brings to the table their own feast and my job is to savor each offering. That’s it! Nothing more! Music. The Great Universal Language given by the Great Universal Linguist!!!!
Everyone will have his/her idea of whose interpretation is "best" - thank goodness for having the freedom to decide. If I could throw in Ashkenazy's 1964 recording (Decca SXL6143) I would rank that as one of the best I've every heard. One odd thing though - he pedals right through the pause before the coda; definitely not in the score!
You come for the breadsticks; you stay for the chowder. I initially came to Hamelin for the "OMG FREAK!" quality of his playing, which at first glance has a kind of perfection to it, with voluptuous, perfectly executed lines and phrases everywhere, and a delicious tone. But hearing him in concert shattered that perception. There is a *lot* of editing and smoothing of details in his recordings, and he uses a *lot* of swashbuckling tempo effects and dynamic swells, usually with lots of pedal. Once you peer past that exterior, you see a very different player: daring interpretations, full of big, dramatic ideas (some maybe half-cocked); notes that stick out; peculiar phrases with two or more humps; extremes of rubato; hairpin turns; and a bunch of pretty humanizing wrong notes. I've started thinking of him in the Ogdon/Katchen/Horowitz "rough" category of pianists, rather than in the Pogorelich/Kissin/Perahia "smooth" category. (Perahia can have probing, classy interpretations, but still basically has this squeaky-clean, rehearsed quality.) Like many great "rough" pianists, there are diamonds of profound commentary scattered within a passionate conveyance of narrative and scale. Here's one example, in this video: In the re-trans (6:10), with the famous canons, Chopin works his way through chromatic modulations back to a literal recap in the home key of F Minor, finally hitting there (6:36) at an odd moment within the metrical rhythm (and harmonically obliquely, since the sub-dominant B-flat Minor is tonicized). Hamelin does a subito rit at this moment, suddenly reprising his slower tempo primo. I was like, "Whoa, all of that seemingly too-fast, chipper playing served a dramatic purpose." You have to take the safety off in order to do that sort of thing. Most pianists do the tempo primo very straight-forwardly at the start of the whole canon section, leaving me like, "Oh OK, the recap, with canons, in a different key. Cool." As long as he's playing lesser-knowns, he's "safe" in Grammy-land. But give him standard rep, and he's a very challenging, intellectually generous, flying-apart-at-the-seems type of pianist--a pianist's pianist, to risk a cliche.
Nobody came here for a dissertation. There are hundreds of artists who have played this piece on youtube- pick the one you like and post positive comments! Just like there are probably many individuals who don't like artists you prefer because we they are unable to pick up subtleties you can discern, there are probably parts of Hamlin's playing we can enjoy that you find difficult to. Nobody's right or wrong- let's just agree that there are many very talented, accomplished artists who have different interpretations of the same pieces.
Harrison Lu stop taking it in the ass. this is a better comment than 95% of what youll see in the comments. would you gave preferred something a little more less dense like 'ZOMG SO AMAZING!' (???) maybe youd like the miley cyrus comment section more
I am so moved as when I open my refrigerator and consider that only three Cokes remains and think "maybe I could bring some more herein" ; and than , I see the two slices of ham of yesterday and have the impression they could be soon out-of-date . I make then the fridge a little cooler for the old ham and also to have colder Cokes . Than I close the door of the refrigerator .
Oh my god!!!! The very same idiosyncrasies that are somewhat annoying in Ballade 3 make his playing of this fourth one deliciously exciting!!! It's not "just another rendition," yet at the same time, it's not obnoxiously attention seeking. Wonderful!
are your ears malfunctioning? i feel sad for people who criticise other's performances when they don't know what they are talking about. all the notes come out clearly. that this performance is live must excuse the few false notes we hear. i daresay most of us would kill to have just half of MAH's comprehension of the music - or, for that matter, technical ability.
Don't let anyone tell you not to play anything. You can learn so much from playing so little. Have you heard the story about tch-kov-sky concerto when he played it through to someone?
Marc André Hamelin interprète cette 4e ballade de Chopin un peu à la manière des grands fauves du piano je pense à F Listz qui aurait fait mal à Chopin.cela manque un peu de poésie.
I never thought I’d dislike anything played by Hamelin. I really listened with an open mind, but this ballade loses all its drama when played this fast. The audience doesn’t even have time to get tears in their eyes before the coda.
Everyone is entitled to his, her or its opinion. Personally, I must agree with those who find that this interpretation is devoid of warmth. It is quite fast, perhaps too fast. Personally, I find the interpretation of Piotr Andrewszewski to be my l latest favorite. Give it a try.
@@Highinsight7 Here is another fantastic interpretation that is not bombastic or rushed... Chopin said "an aristocrat never hurries Virsaladse a pianist I have discoverer and admire late in my life 9:12 ruclips.net/video/qVYo-xJJG7g/видео.html
You seem to be equating slow and drawn out playing as emotional, and conversely, faster playing as mechanical. There's really no explicit relationship between performance tempo and musicality. There's an audio recording presented to you right here that demonstrates exactly this, but even still you refuse to accept it. If you are not hearing the quality of music in this performance, then I'm sorry to hear that, because you're really missing out.
I'm just saying, to have played that enourmous amount of music and different styles, Wouldn't your playing style enrich more from them? That's just his view of the music(and Chopin for that matter), and surely it's different from Zimmerman or Argerich or Rubinstein or Horowitz, you have to respect that.(Also I noticed that Hamelin gets very excited playing live :P, that makes him better IMO)
Still sounds a bit rushed in places for me - like he's trying to attack it in the same way as Pollini does, but just not quite as capably. Pollini's is probably my favourite.
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In a way, Mr. Hamelin's astonishing pianistic mastery is a curse, because it tempts some people (including some posting here) to think of him as mere virtuoso entertainment. I do not know Mr. Hamelin well, but I have spent a bit of time with him and can tell you that the music is absolutely his first priority. He is a serious, probing, sensitive musician who comes equipped with great technical mastery, much like Richter or Pollini or Argerich or Zimerman. You may disagree with some of his choices, but I can tell you that his focus in great music is the music, not technical display. This is not to say that he won't occasionally play some display pieces, again, not unlike Pollini or Richter, but Mr. Hamelin is a true musician in the best sense of the word.
Agree. Hamelin is the best living pianist
One of the best performances I have ever heard. And he is a pianist of pianists. Being free from technical difficulties and with genuine artistic spirit he creates perfect articulation of what this magnificent piece should sound like. Hamelin is a real treasure.
you phrased it perfectly! I couldn't agree more!
It is truly a privelege for me to be listening to this glorious music so nobly, romantically interpreted. Thank you Mr. Hamelin.
Arguably the greatest pianist ever in my opinion
Have to agree with you sir
What about Liszt and Alkan?
@@dwacheopus undoubtedly better then both combined. had they have been playing on the heavier modern grand we have today, they wouldn't even be able to play half the pieces they wrote, let alone even write them in the first place (I've heard that Alkan couldn't even play some of his own, and Liszt at Hamelin's age had probably already lost his former ability to play, whereas Hamelin still composes and plays at the highest level)
Extraordinary. A bit faster than most versions, as many have noted, but I love the way he shapes the long, rather fast lines so that he sets you down gently at the end of each.
Everyone admires MAH's technique, but I really think his musicianship is given less than full credit. This is not just a master pianist but a master musician.
It is the first time I hear Hamelin play this 4th ballad. I must say, first, that I recognize immediately his style: he takes great care to express the composer's notes and notation (incl staccati, slurs and phrasing) but then molds it to his own concept of the piece as a whole - and he is such a good musician that his interpretation is pretty convincing. He is one of the few pianists of today who dare to really interpret, and take risks in that risky realm: the building of a work like this ballad, which is really nothing less than shaping a cathedral out of musical building stones in a matter of no more than ten minutes.
What a ravishing performance - a combination of astounding technique and brilliant musicianship. This is a full minute shorter than most other versions - glorious!
extremely enjoyable and moving, leads us through the range of emotions.
Nagyon szép, átgondolt előadás - ABM-re emlékeztet. Öröm hallgatni. Kösz!
Tegnap pedig Schiff András különleges műsort adott itt Tel Avivban: Goldberg és Diabelli variációk. Nem hallottam még ilyet
Na, azt én is szívesen meghallgattam volna (időm lett volna rá). Különösen érdekes lett volna az összehasonlítás az 1983-ban készült Goldberg variációk Decca felvételével, amelyik nekem (csak) CD-n van meg.
A phenomenal performance beyond the actual text of this ballad!
I love Mark Andre and His Chopin !!!
It's FANTASTIC !!!
A titanic performance combining transcendental musicianship with flawless technique.
One of my top twenty favorite pianist (living)... but... as great as this performance is... I never even came close to getting teary eyed... Still... He's the MAN!
the musical flow of this performance is outstanding!!!!
Possibly Chopin's most wonderful composition! Played beautifully by this great man!.
Yes indeed, a wonderful performance. Crystal clear yet full of expression.
I love his ending execution, full of conflicts and temper yet musical.
Anyone saying this is too fast needs to realize that this is the type of tempo Chopin would've played it in. He was far more conservative with rubato than some people nowadays think. Many people play this piece with so much rubato, and so far under tempo, that it becomes sluggish. It should have a sad, yet elegant/poised feel, not sleepy.
The adherence to the intended tempo while still using tasteful rubtato, extraordinarily delicate playing/voicing in the calm moments, and unmatched bravura in the tough spots (especially in the coda), make this the gold standard for 4th Ballade as far as I'm concerned.
This interpretation is so under appreciated. Such a shame Hamelin has never done a studio recording of this piece.
Petition for him to record the four ballades with hyperion
Agreed. Listen to Horowitz: light, moving, not sluggish or dwelling.
with the innumerable amount of different recordings of chopins 4th ballade, discussions about how much one deviates from "chopins intention" or the written tempi is really a useless conversation to have. I think any live performance should just be decent enough, because in the end the music really speaks for itself. A studio recording ought to be more daring however, if one even considers it. Because otherwise it will just be lost in the many recordings we already have that sound exactly the same unfortunately. Of course, this runs the risk of spoiling the pianist's reputation so eh, maybe in the end it is best just to not record them, because inevitably you have nothing to add and more to lose.
Splendida esecuzione per di più LIVE.Precisione quasi assoluta. Dominio e logica impeccabile del fraseggio...finalmente un grande pianista...
condivido;
il migliore se posso permettermi...
Mr CHOPIN .... your music is so full of depth and unique. I do not know of another composer whose music sounds similar to yours. You are truly different from the other composers. Another composer whom I admire greatly as much as you is Brahms. Both of you are beyond amazing!
Thank you for posting this glorious performance of the F minor Ballade. Beautifully shaped and executed.
This music is achingly romantic. Utterly sublime. Painfully beautiful. I adore this Ballade. Adore it. MAH plays with such sensitivity and perfect touch, his phenomenal technique easily disguises the many challenges in this piece for any piano player.
magnifique interprétation, la plus belle version disponible par ce magnifique pianiste
very live and flying sound and very much particular technique of sound extraction- very very much interesting THANK YOU!!!
BEAUTIFUL! I thought Horowitz' recording was the greatest, but Hamelin has given me new insights into the beauty of this exquisite ballade. Bravo!
Richter
Comparing pianists is, in my view, like arguing which vintage wine is the best. I prefer to simply savour the vintage wine and experience the moment. It’s a beautiful thing.
Here is a pianist who realizes that ”ballata” is the past participle of ”ballare”, to dance. Lights as a feather, where some pianists trample on wearing cloggy boots in vain search of profundity. A truly great performance of a masterpiece in the piano literature.
Apart from the fact that there is definitely a mathematical side to music (or to the universe as a whole, as some theoretical physicists claim), there is no obvious ethymological connection between the Latin verb ”studiare” and the noun ”mathematics”, so forgive me, but I don’t get your point. On the other hand, there is an obvious connection between the verb ”ballare” and the noun ”ballade, ballata” etc, and sure enough the French ballades were originally dancing songs. We tend to forget the physical aspect of music; music is closely related to movements of body and spirit-it is indeed difficult to imagine static music. Just as we should not forget that much of Bach’s music are stylized dances (gigue, allemande, courante, etc) and should be played as such to spring to life, we should bear in mind the dancelike essence in much of Chopin’s music to set free this flow that liberates the human being from the fetters of her physical existence.
This is literally the most pedantic, ridiculous and wrong comments I've ever read on youtube. As mentioned in others' comments, ballade in this context refers to a story or drama. Dance has NOTHING to do with this piece. And while we are at it, this performance is run of the mill. The audience certainly thought so. Yes, it's really fast, ooooh. No, he isn't "shaping" anything and the end of the coda is a blurry mess. No thank you.
Wow what a performance hidden ❤❤❤
Thanks again for these uploads
Astounding. Heard him do a Mozart piece once years ago, and was hooked ever since. His gift is a complete - league of its own - stand out. Now if I could just find that recording of him doing Mozart's piano concerto no. 17... :-)
Hemlin's Chopin! It's so beautiful. Thank you.
The problem doesn't actually rely on how Hamelin plays Chopin. I think it's a wonderful interpretation.Many people associate MAH with his technical mastery and enourmous repertoire including virtually unknown composers, many of these have different styles and lyricism(like Alkan,Medtner,Scriabin,Godowsky,Liszt,Busoni,Catoire,Kapustin,Grainger,Mendelsohnn, and a lot more I don't remember), even his own compositions show his view on the music and his mastery of the instrument.
Once in a while i come back to this performance, and i really think you must be a monstrosity of a pianist to play this piece, as all the other pianists are in my opinion, but this performance stands out: to make everything fall together with such musicality and angularity, you must be something more than a human... It's just crazy to think this was even played by a human... Not only the technique is flawless but the expression is out of this world... It's not metronomic, the voices are perfectly phrased, the piece flows with no noticable mistakes, not that I'd care if Hamelin missed some notes here and there, he's a human too (or is he?) and it's full of energy that doesn't fade away even after the climax... Best pianist alive!🥹
I also like the look on his face when he plays. A great musician.
The best ballade 4 recording.
Очень яркая индивидуальность! ❤
Hamellin play very very good...bravo!!
I bet you all wish you could play it as well as he does?!
I think the faster playing of this piece achieves a very nice effect, that isn't present when at a slower tempo.
magnificent performance by a keyboard titan!
Hamelin, Rubinstein and Bolet. My favourite interprets of Ballade 4.
There's something very beautiful about his phrasing in the passage that starts at 6:09, right after the cadenza.
BRAVO Mr. valseoubliee ! Bravo ! Very good comment . YOU are a "connoisseur" .
Melody line from 9:20 onwards:
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Thats some dramatic stuff here :)
Awesome indeed.
Good heavens...This is sumptuous!
I wonder why the world has stopped producing the geniuses. Maybe we don't deserve them anymore.
the GREAT "musical world" has been "kidnapped" by an ideology very prevalent in most music schools... and composition has become COMPLETELY academic... and without NEW BEAUTIFUL NEW works that will THRILL an audience, including the folks that knows NOTHING about music... what do you have...?
Una gratísima sorpresa. Me gusta su interpretación
Hamelin's has the BEST most versatile technique. And his musical technique is insane
My favorite recording!
He is a genius!!!!
maybe it's just me but I find this live performance to be one of the best interpretations of this work. Perhaps the tempo is on the high side according to some but in my limited understanding this version seems to bath in the atmosphere of Chopin. The music is played in a sincere way. Who knows maybe that's the most important thing, do what naturally feels best to create a perfect harmony between the vision of the composer and the performer. Hamelin succeeds very well in doing this.
People! Why are you talking about Richter here? Do you have always to compare pianists/musicians? this is why music is dying... I guess! Richter is dead (in case if you are living on another planet and didn't read the memo!) so let's celebrate this great, unique and rare talent, Hamelin is more than just a Pianist, he is a true musician (you should learn the difference)!
Wake up!
Music is dying... are you kidding me lol
if you listen to the radio it is
I couldn't agree with you more! Music is not to be compared; each musicians (e.g. pianists) has their characteristics!
@@Yubin_Lee_Doramelin well i think those are the qualities of classical music, being able to compare interpretations, where one interpretation can go into a different direction than another
Maybe in 19th century this piece were played within 9 mins, so don't mind the total time...People who understand Hamelin would understand his greatness far beyond other 1st-class pianists...Hamelin and Volodos, Sokolov are the 'big three' of modern piano music world.
刘家树 lol Volodos is a retarded virtuoso
True
A little... Cold... I didn't expect this from Hamelin.
@rvn10rvn17 You're very welcome! :) No, I don't have a recording of it. Rumour has it that bootlegs were made and even a radio station recorded one of his concerts which included Gaspard, but I'm unaware of any broadcasts or specific recordings. Sorry.
Bellisimo!
Превосходно!
7:30 Welcome to heaven
There is indeed a superiority in a good judgment on an shabby aesthetical emotivity . And "valseoubliee" was absolutely right .
I WILL NOT COMPARE! I WILL NOT COMPARE! I WILL NOT COMPARE! Have fallen into that trap too many times! Just who in the heck do I think I am? Each artist/musician brings to the table their own feast and my job is to savor each offering. That’s it! Nothing more! Music. The Great Universal Language given by the Great Universal Linguist!!!!
Very good comment
All through, it can be relished.
Zimerman takes the cake, hands down. Check him out.
Da dum, da dum, swoosh, da dum da dummmm. Bravo. The maestro's treatment of the texture and drama here is finely judged. I am moved.
Everyone will have his/her idea of whose interpretation is "best" - thank goodness for having the freedom to decide. If I could throw in Ashkenazy's 1964 recording (Decca SXL6143) I would rank that as one of the best I've every heard. One odd thing though - he pedals right through the pause before the coda; definitely not in the score!
Why does youtube say the prf is called Nikolai Lugansky? There are so many videos on youtube with people falsely attributing the wrong prf.
You come for the breadsticks; you stay for the chowder.
I initially came to Hamelin for the "OMG FREAK!" quality of his playing, which at first glance has a kind of perfection to it, with voluptuous, perfectly executed lines and phrases everywhere, and a delicious tone. But hearing him in concert shattered that perception. There is a *lot* of editing and smoothing of details in his recordings, and he uses a *lot* of swashbuckling tempo effects and dynamic swells, usually with lots of pedal. Once you peer past that exterior, you see a very different player: daring interpretations, full of big, dramatic ideas (some maybe half-cocked); notes that stick out; peculiar phrases with two or more humps; extremes of rubato; hairpin turns; and a bunch of pretty humanizing wrong notes. I've started thinking of him in the Ogdon/Katchen/Horowitz "rough" category of pianists, rather than in the Pogorelich/Kissin/Perahia "smooth" category. (Perahia can have probing, classy interpretations, but still basically has this squeaky-clean, rehearsed quality.)
Like many great "rough" pianists, there are diamonds of profound commentary scattered within a passionate conveyance of narrative and scale. Here's one example, in this video: In the re-trans (6:10), with the famous canons, Chopin works his way through chromatic modulations back to a literal recap in the home key of F Minor, finally hitting there (6:36) at an odd moment within the metrical rhythm (and harmonically obliquely, since the sub-dominant B-flat Minor is tonicized). Hamelin does a subito rit at this moment, suddenly reprising his slower tempo primo. I was like, "Whoa, all of that seemingly too-fast, chipper playing served a dramatic purpose." You have to take the safety off in order to do that sort of thing. Most pianists do the tempo primo very straight-forwardly at the start of the whole canon section, leaving me like, "Oh OK, the recap, with canons, in a different key. Cool."
As long as he's playing lesser-knowns, he's "safe" in Grammy-land. But give him standard rep, and he's a very challenging, intellectually generous, flying-apart-at-the-seems type of pianist--a pianist's pianist, to risk a cliche.
Nobody came here for a dissertation. There are hundreds of artists who have played this piece on youtube- pick the one you like and post positive comments! Just like there are probably many individuals who don't like artists you prefer because we they are unable to pick up subtleties you can discern, there are probably parts of Hamlin's playing we can enjoy that you find difficult to. Nobody's right or wrong- let's just agree that there are many very talented, accomplished artists who have different interpretations of the same pieces.
Harrison Lu stop taking it in the ass. this is a better comment than 95% of what youll see in the comments. would you gave preferred something a little more less dense like 'ZOMG SO AMAZING!' (???) maybe youd like the miley cyrus comment section more
We come here for different reasons. Some of us like dissertations.
sshuck What are you talking about? Breadsticks? Chowder? a pianist's pianist? Oy vey.
Javascript Kiddie Rude idiot you are. Total douchebag.
I am so moved as when I open my refrigerator and consider that only three Cokes remains and think "maybe I could bring some more herein" ; and than , I see the two slices of ham of yesterday and have the impression they could be soon out-of-date . I make then the fridge a little cooler for the old ham and also to have colder Cokes . Than I close the door of the refrigerator .
@gsprpltv You should hear his recording of Chopin's Sonata No. 2. It is the best recording of the piece i've listened to yet.
Hamelin's Gaspard is on RUclips now!
Oh my god!!!! The very same idiosyncrasies that are somewhat annoying in Ballade 3 make his playing of this fourth one deliciously exciting!!! It's not "just another rendition," yet at the same time, it's not obnoxiously attention seeking. Wonderful!
merci merci merci merci merci!!!
do you have his gaspard de la nuit?
I agree with Jalal Sela 100%!!!
....very nice Czerny Etude op.bla bla no.4(of course..)...excellent!!! can we listen to Chopin's 4th Ballade now???????...
@ThePaulinoContreras You are not the only one!
@pianojoseph84 I highly recommend you listen to Arrau's performance. I m not sure though you can find it on youtube.
From which performance is the thumbnail from?
う、上手い・・・
are your ears malfunctioning? i feel sad for people who criticise other's performances when they don't know what they are talking about. all the notes come out clearly. that this performance is live must excuse the few false notes we hear. i daresay most of us would kill to have just half of MAH's comprehension of the music - or, for that matter, technical ability.
In live today : the castration of Fr. Chopin ' s fourth Ballade .
That's right. He can play this without even touching the keyboard.
4:42
pretty harsh andriy, how old are you?
Some below wrote "What a mess." I agree.
Why does the license in the description say that Lugansky is the performer?
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Don't let anyone tell you not to play anything. You can learn so much from playing so little. Have you heard the story about tch-kov-sky concerto when he played it through to someone?
Marc André Hamelin interprète cette 4e ballade de Chopin un peu à la manière des grands fauves du piano je pense à F Listz qui aurait fait mal à Chopin.cela manque un peu de poésie.
I never thought I’d dislike anything played by Hamelin. I really listened with an open mind, but this ballade loses all its drama when played this fast. The audience doesn’t even have time to get tears in their eyes before the coda.
Everyone is entitled to his, her or its opinion. Personally, I must agree with those who find that this interpretation is devoid of warmth. It is quite fast, perhaps too fast. Personally, I find the interpretation of Piotr Andrewszewski to be my l latest favorite. Give it a try.
Piotr Andrewszewski is certainly ONE of my favorite performances of this great work!
@@Highinsight7 Here is another fantastic interpretation that is not bombastic or rushed... Chopin said "an aristocrat never hurries Virsaladse a pianist I have discoverer and admire late in my life 9:12 ruclips.net/video/qVYo-xJJG7g/видео.html
pero jamelin no era el flautista?
You seem to be equating slow and drawn out playing as emotional, and conversely, faster playing as mechanical. There's really no explicit relationship between performance tempo and musicality. There's an audio recording presented to you right here that demonstrates exactly this, but even still you refuse to accept it. If you are not hearing the quality of music in this performance, then I'm sorry to hear that, because you're really missing out.
I'm just saying, to have played that enourmous amount of music and different styles, Wouldn't your playing style enrich more from them?
That's just his view of the music(and Chopin for that matter), and surely it's different from Zimmerman or Argerich or Rubinstein or Horowitz, you have to respect that.(Also I noticed that Hamelin gets very excited playing live :P, that makes him better IMO)
Why does it say the artist is Luganski??
8:53 :-)
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Modern Liszt!
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Earl Wild!? Lugansky?! WTF RUclips?
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Still sounds a bit rushed in places for me - like he's trying to attack it in the same way as Pollini does, but just not quite as capably. Pollini's is probably my favourite.
Anna Larsen....
What's the deal with the thumbnail on this video?
Kein Rubinstein aber gut