"It's not a melody, it's a mood"! "When you repeat something, you either imbue it w more energy or you reflect on what you played" "This is hopeful. Maybe a memory that is hopeful" Perahia has a rare gift of communicating complex subjects succinctly & precisely.
"It's not romantic, it's bitter." This kind of emotional nuance is what makes Perahia's playing so captivating. Excellent playing and absorbing under pressure, Yali!
Amazing performance, but Mr. Perahia is right, the student was not taking any time in most of the piece. When he finally did, it was incredibly beautiful - I love these masterclasses so much.
What an amazing performance by Yali Zaken under the demanding tutelage of the master, Murray Perahia, my pianistic hero for over four decades! Mr. Zaken was highly qualified to subject himself to the demands: so well prepared, so technically qualified, and with a strong mental focus on listening and learning. What a joy to hear not only my favorite pianist offer so many insights, but for a wonderful young pianist soak up the advice and criticisms and transform his performance. I am awed by the brilliance and dedicated intensity of both of them. YES!!!
I can't believe that Perahia told him to listen to Friedman. He just rose many levels in my esteem. Because Friedman interprets every note, he digs below the surface to capture every nuance of feeling in the music, and he lets the music breathe. Even the bass notes are beautiful in his interpretation. They seem prayerful. He plays with a lot of rubato, because that is dictated by the emotions that the music expresses. Does any pianist understand that today? Just Perahia.
With all these master classes, the distinction is nearly always about never giving way to the notes alone; there is always a presence of mood, intent and emotion, a visual passage…
Extraordinary masterclass. Thank you for posting them, they are very inspiring. Magnificent working duo here between the brilliant student and the master. I understand Ballad 4 better now. It is very enriching.
The player is absolutely outstanding although it's quite challenging to have the emotional depth at this age for that kind of piece. Excellent class, great upload, many thanks.
Amazing. It is so rewarding to carefully listen as Maestro Perahia verbally unveils his inner musical and emotional world and instructs on how to implement it through craftmanship. Enlightening and priceless.
tame more time🙏🏾 I so agree in an overagitated and stressdriven society we need more time more rubato to contemplate love it!for more then 50 years im living my live as a pianoteacher and in this hectic times my”mission” is all about take time thanks for posting Marga
Yali is a truly receptive pianist, he absorbs Perahia's meaning and can execute it. Over and over! What an opportunity - a master class with Perahia who is considered the greatest living pianist! (The other great pianists have died, leaving Perahia as the sole recipient of "greatest living pianist" accolade.)
So many great pianists, living and dead in my lifetime, but Murray Perahia has always been my greatest hero. I remember the first time I heard him in recital, opening with the Chopin Barcarolle: by the first 14 measures the hair stood up on the back of my neck. His playing was magical. I left my job as a hospital ICU therapist, and pursued a degree in music. Best decision ever!
You see Perahia's English is perfectly poised. "Not turbulent, but pathetic." This articulate quality allows him to communicate perfectly what he means in words as well as on the piano.
The slow part is an aria, like one by Bellini, Chopin’s friend. I’m a big advocate of actually singing melodies out loud, then matching that on the keyboard.
Zaken plays it through - not lingering over every pretty bit. Also, not bangy. Easy to add rubato and sound. Hard to get rid of. Was happy to hear this.
Bravo! Grew up with Murray Perahia's recording since 1994 when the Ballades were released by Sony classical. This masterclass is a great insight to what is one of the most inspiring interpretation of the ballades. The student is just fenomenal in responding to Perahia's ideas. Perahia's version of the Ballade is on youtube: ruclips.net/video/NXlHBL1LBl8/видео.html&ab_channel=MurrayPerahia-Topic
In all my 40+ years of playing classical piano-as a player, as a teacher, observing other masterclasses-I’ve never seen a student take a direction from the instructor to the point where the teacher says “that’s too much, do ‘less’.”
Amazing masterclass. I think the young pianists are to anxious sometimes, and end up playing passages in a hurry. For me the ultimate performance of this piece is from Yuliana Avdeeva 2010.
That was his new discovery in around the 1990s. I remember a master class when he referred listeners to a book, "Beyond Schenkerism", to the participants. I ordered the book, but never made it past the first 37 pages, nor did my brother, a classical guitarist. Listening to this RUclips, he appears to have moderated his understanding of Schenkerism in a way that makes total sense to me. What a wonderful privilege to share Mr. Perahia's thoughtfulness in these master class videos! And what a great, great student so well prepared, and so willing to adapt and persevere while under fire. What a great RUclips video! Thank you, Jerusalem Music Centre, for sharing this wonderful experience!
@@chester6343I see how they have the same general feel but the notes aren’t the same. I’m not seeing it as a transformation. I have heard before that the coda is supposed to be another variation of the main theme, so you might be on to something.
Wow, a spectacular masterclass! "A murder has happened" - who else had their hair standing on end by then and right to the end? Terrific student and peerless teacher.
I notice Perahia uses letters for the notes like you learn in the States. He is originally American. When I studied in Israel, they used do re mi, and I was constantly mixed up between notes!
Yali is to me a virtuoso himself, and only needs a little polishing here and there. I don't recall anyone at Juilliard playing with his virtuosity and ability to incorporate emotional changes.
Interesting that you mention Friedman, my favorite pianist. His performance of this work is also on youtube. Combines power with poetry and great sensitivity. Interprets everything and gives it meaning. Let's the piece breathe, and I love his left hand, which expresses feelings that other pianists don't know exist.
I feel like most of the people with negative comments hear cant do half of what they are saying. Why is it so hard for people to look past small things and appreciate the good things
never heard such virile god like loving sweetness .. only in horowitz.. pogorelich... where else can you find it.. in chopin himself.. ruclips.net/video/uFhlIhdNGjg/видео.html ruclips.net/video/hAi7dnvNCw0/видео.html "Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties. After one has played a vast quantity of notes and more notes, it is simplicity that emerges as the crowning reward of art." Chopin. ---- "Under the fingers of Chopins´s hand the piano became the voice of an archangel, an orchestra, an army, a raging ocean, a creation of the universe, the end of the world." Solange Clesinger. --- "Chopin´s playing evoked all the sweet and sorrowful voices of the past. Chopin sang the tears of music...in a whole gamut of different forms and voices, from that of the warrior to those of children and angels..." Bohdan Zaleski, polish poet, personal diary 2 feb 1844. Fight to achieve quality, go deeper... find the origin of the sound. --- You have to get into the phycological frame of mind in which composers wrote their works in order to discover its secrets. One should always try as much as possible to rediscover music as though one is hearing it for the first time, searching everywhere for new meanings and new depths. The highest function of the artist is to release the spirituality and the emotional immediacy that lie within the score. A composition can only be performed well if it is entirely yours, not only every note from memory, but the notes have become you, and you have become the notes. Fight and find the substance, then go to the higher spheres. Music takes you to another universe of eternity that remains with you after the concert is finished. Ivo Pogorelich.
This coda sounds as violent as the ballet Mayerling! Only Mayerling is Liszt. Yali Zaken is certainly one of the "outstanding pianists". Great thanks to both virtuosos!
Just to remind that %90 of these are ideas which are actually personal opinions. So most of the time not 'correcting' this pianist. Although it may seem like it. One can go an listen to this piece from hundred different 'legends' and these ideas would contradict each other. Whats important is whether he inspires the pianist who comes for suggestions at this level. Wanted to share this side of the coin as it is generally overlooked.
Every pianist today, and for decades rushes from phrase to phrase. Why in such a hurry? Because they don't understand that notes are feelings or parts of feelings. They are afraid to linger on a note or a phrase, but that is absolutely necessary for both the pianist and the audience to fully appreciate the emotions and beauties of the music. If a singer rushes from phrase to phrase, we would say that she is unmusical. If a pianist does this, it's the same.
Il ne s'agit pas tant du temps écoulé que de ce qui réside entre les moments. Ce pianiste a encore un long chemin à parcourir, tandis que Monsieur Perehaia touche presque au but.
Then please post this ballad performed by Alexei Sultanov. His name rings a familiar bell with me in my research on great pianists.. I would like to hear it.
I mean why would a young person have the life experience to interpret this piece at all... after a person has suffered through loss and depression, they'll cry over the beginning of this piece.
I disagree. I've studied this piece, and it has tremendous demands. Mr. Zakin has a brilliant technique and offered great sensitivity to his playing. He took the advice from Mr. Perahia and incorporated it immediately into his performance. This was strength under fire, and I was amazed at his resilience and intense willingness to change his performance under Mr. Perahia's strict guidance. Kudos to both Mr. Zakin and Mr. Perahia, and thank you, Jerusalem Music Centre for posting these amazing master classes.
I dont like these masterclasses. Students just become a copy of their Teacher. Jazz Musician Teachers never tell their students how to express Jazz Music.
Yeah I get what you mean. I think the student should apply the teachings of the masterclass in everything they do (if they like it), without feeling there's a right way to play. It's just a tool at their disposal.
It is called the "drilling" method of work. But you need to go beyond the details and draw your own conclusions from them, not follow the instructions blindly. Perahia is a unique and outstanding artist with a deep, sincere love of music. You can learn so much about music by listening to the class this way.
@@bubffm Lots of people agree with me. This young pianist is typical. He has no feeling for the emotional content of the music and how to express it. Being told when to play with rubato is pathetic.
"It's not a melody, it's a mood"!
"When you repeat something, you either imbue it w more energy or you reflect on what you played"
"This is hopeful. Maybe a memory that is hopeful"
Perahia has a rare gift of communicating complex subjects succinctly & precisely.
"It's not romantic, it's bitter." This kind of emotional nuance is what makes Perahia's playing so captivating. Excellent playing and absorbing under pressure, Yali!
Murray perahia ... a real dumbass! Thanks so so much!!!!
Amazing performance, but Mr. Perahia is right, the student was not taking any time in most of the piece. When he finally did, it was incredibly beautiful - I love these masterclasses so much.
The student works hard but perhaps need more life experience to truly understand the emotions of this 4th Ballade, which is all very normal
He is expressing so much but he doesn't let us feel it because he is rushing. It can be beautiful, it will. This young pianist is very rich inside.
What an amazing performance by Yali Zaken under the demanding tutelage of the master, Murray Perahia, my pianistic hero for over four decades! Mr. Zaken was highly qualified to subject himself to the demands: so well prepared, so technically qualified, and with a strong mental focus on listening and learning. What a joy to hear not only my favorite pianist offer so many insights, but for a wonderful young pianist soak up the advice and criticisms and transform his performance. I am awed by the brilliance and dedicated intensity of both of them. YES!!!
I’m learning this piece currently and this master class is absolutely precious!, thank you and keep it coming ❤❤❤
Good luck! This one is a beast. If you can absorb and master this, you are in a very special class of highly competent pianists.
I can't believe that Perahia told him to listen to Friedman. He just rose many levels in my esteem. Because Friedman interprets every note, he digs below the surface to capture every nuance of feeling in the music, and he lets the music breathe. Even the bass notes are beautiful in his interpretation. They seem prayerful. He plays with a lot of rubato, because that is dictated by the emotions that the music expresses. Does any pianist understand that today? Just Perahia.
With all these master classes, the distinction is nearly always about never giving way to the notes alone; there is always a presence of mood, intent and emotion, a visual passage…
what a master.... "good.. thats lovely.. unreal.. thats beautiful.. " he says... love him.. infinite love of music
This boy is a good pianist. Good sense of drive, very individual interpretation and some artistic intuition.
Hoping the best for him
Extraordinary masterclass. Thank you for posting them, they are very inspiring. Magnificent working duo here between the brilliant student and the master. I understand Ballad 4 better now. It is very enriching.
The player is absolutely outstanding although it's quite challenging to have the emotional depth at this age for that kind of piece. Excellent class, great upload, many thanks.
Perahia is a true master. He adds so much to the student's performance.
This young man is talented.
Amazing. It is so rewarding to carefully listen as Maestro Perahia verbally unveils his inner musical and emotional world and instructs on how to implement it through craftmanship. Enlightening and priceless.
tame more time🙏🏾 I so agree in an overagitated and stressdriven society we need more time more rubato to contemplate love it!for more then 50 years im living my live as a pianoteacher and in this hectic times my”mission” is all about take time thanks for posting Marga
Yali is a truly receptive pianist, he absorbs Perahia's meaning and can execute it. Over and over! What an opportunity - a master class with Perahia who is considered the greatest living pianist! (The other great pianists have died, leaving Perahia as the sole recipient of "greatest living pianist" accolade.)
Argerich Sokolov :p
Richard Goode, Emanuel Ax, Marc-Andre Hamelin, they are also the greatest living pianists!
So many great pianists, living and dead in my lifetime, but Murray Perahia has always been my greatest hero. I remember the first time I heard him in recital, opening with the Chopin Barcarolle: by the first 14 measures the hair stood up on the back of my neck. His playing was magical. I left my job as a hospital ICU therapist, and pursued a degree in music. Best decision ever!
The opening phrase is so difficult to phrase, the voicing is right up there with the opening of Beethoven 4th.
Спасибо , за доставленное учебно - эстетическое удовольствие .. Прекрасный учитель и замечательный ученик
great teaching, even i learned a lot of things
I love his playing, and I love his teaching as much! truly great masterclass ...!
Very insightful teaching! Maestro MP has such a profound understanding of Chopin. Beautiful performance as well.
Very beautifully rendered Ballad No.4! Such an unadulterated sound he makes!
You see Perahia's English is perfectly poised. "Not turbulent, but pathetic." This articulate quality allows him to communicate perfectly what he means in words as well as on the piano.
30:47 hilarious bit where Murray Perahia demonstrates his godly brilliance for a brief moment and says "etcetera".
You are correct 😂
The slow part is an aria, like one by Bellini, Chopin’s friend. I’m a big advocate of actually singing melodies out loud, then matching that on the keyboard.
Zaken plays it through - not lingering over every pretty bit. Also, not bangy. Easy to add rubato and sound. Hard to get rid of. Was happy to hear this.
Ah! ❤CHOPIN ❤
Wow. Just gorgeous. Loved it. ❤
Bravo! Grew up with Murray Perahia's recording since 1994 when the Ballades were released by Sony classical. This masterclass is a great insight to what is one of the most inspiring interpretation of the ballades. The student is just fenomenal in responding to Perahia's ideas. Perahia's version of the Ballade is on youtube: ruclips.net/video/NXlHBL1LBl8/видео.html&ab_channel=MurrayPerahia-Topic
EXTRAORDINARY all round!
Bravo! Marvelous Master Class! I have a Piano Festival upcoming 45th and I was so inspired!!!
10:18 Ignaz Friedman - my grandfather knew him and got his highest credentials. I have his handwritten letters.
In all my 40+ years of playing classical piano-as a player, as a teacher, observing other masterclasses-I’ve never seen a student take a direction from the instructor to the point where the teacher says “that’s too much, do ‘less’.”
my cat is meowing and pawing at the screen, she loves it so much, lol
Amazing masterclass. I think the young pianists are to anxious sometimes, and end up playing passages in a hurry. For me the ultimate performance of this piece is from Yuliana Avdeeva 2010.
"ha ha.. thats in another world... " he takes us to heaven on earth
Also, his corrections are kindly. At Juilliard, I have seen harshly critical master classes.
THANK YOU!
10:00 MP starts talking
I like how Perahia uses Schenkerian analysis on his teaching
That was his new discovery in around the 1990s. I remember a master class when he referred listeners to a book, "Beyond Schenkerism", to the participants. I ordered the book, but never made it past the first 37 pages, nor did my brother, a classical guitarist. Listening to this RUclips, he appears to have moderated his understanding of Schenkerism in a way that makes total sense to me. What a wonderful privilege to share Mr. Perahia's thoughtfulness in these master class videos! And what a great, great student so well prepared, and so willing to adapt and persevere while under fire. What a great RUclips video! Thank you, Jerusalem Music Centre, for sharing this wonderful experience!
I didn't know speedruns existed on classical pieces too... i'm glad he got some help by the great Perahia
BRAVISSIMO.¨!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At 42:04 Perahia sings a line from the coda and says it’s been transformed from somewhere else. Where else was that in the piece?
first theme after the introduction I think, u can barely hear the resemblance, so I'm not sure either
@user-zz5je1ry1o def not, polonaise fantasy was completed in 1846, 4th ballade was completed in 1842
0:44
@@rainchen7846 doubt Chopin meant to relate those two pieces but he was right… it’s almost an exact match to the Polonaise Fantasy.
@@chester6343I see how they have the same general feel but the notes aren’t the same. I’m not seeing it as a transformation.
I have heard before that the coda is supposed to be another variation of the main theme, so you might be on to something.
Wonderful
What a lesson
Wow, a spectacular masterclass! "A murder has happened" - who else had their hair standing on end by then and right to the end?
Terrific student and peerless teacher.
I got chills when he said that, and the part where he said,"That's not romantic, it's bitter... "
I notice Perahia uses letters for the notes like you learn in the States. He is originally American. When I studied in Israel, they used do re mi, and I was constantly mixed up between notes!
At Mannes (where Perahia studied) after a year or two, most students use the solfege syllabes.
Yali is to me a virtuoso himself, and only needs a little polishing here and there. I don't recall anyone at Juilliard playing with his virtuosity and ability to incorporate emotional changes.
Ignaz Friedman was a great pianist of a previous era.
Interesting that you mention Friedman, my favorite pianist. His performance of this work is also on youtube. Combines power with poetry and great sensitivity. Interprets everything and gives it meaning. Let's the piece breathe, and I love his left hand, which expresses feelings that other pianists don't know exist.
Wow
39:40 wow!
I feel like most of the people with negative comments hear cant do half of what they are saying. Why is it so hard for people to look past small things and appreciate the good things
It's not a melody yet? [Perahia referring to the opening]. Then what is it?
The kid needs 10 more years, few heartbreaks
💀
never heard such virile god like loving sweetness .. only in horowitz.. pogorelich... where else can you find it.. in chopin himself..
ruclips.net/video/uFhlIhdNGjg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/hAi7dnvNCw0/видео.html
"Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties. After one has played a vast quantity of notes and more notes, it is simplicity that emerges as the crowning reward of art."
Chopin.
----
"Under the fingers of Chopins´s hand the piano became the voice of an archangel, an orchestra, an army, a raging ocean, a creation of the universe, the end of the world."
Solange Clesinger.
---
"Chopin´s playing evoked all the sweet and sorrowful voices of the past. Chopin sang the tears of music...in a whole gamut of different forms and voices, from that of the warrior to those of children and angels..."
Bohdan Zaleski, polish poet, personal diary 2 feb 1844.
Fight to achieve quality, go deeper... find the origin of the sound.
---
You have to get into the phycological frame of mind in which composers wrote their works in order to discover its secrets.
One should always try as much as possible to rediscover music as though one is hearing it for the first time, searching everywhere for new meanings and new depths.
The highest function of the artist is to release the spirituality and the emotional immediacy that lie within the score.
A composition can only be performed well if it is entirely yours, not only every note from memory, but the notes have become you, and you have become the notes.
Fight and find the substance, then go to the higher spheres.
Music takes you to another universe of eternity that remains with you after the concert is finished.
Ivo Pogorelich.
39:40
The problem with the beginning is that you have to be relaxed and in a kind of strained mood at the same time..
This coda sounds as violent as the ballet Mayerling! Only Mayerling is Liszt. Yali Zaken is certainly one of the "outstanding pianists". Great thanks to both virtuosos!
👏👏👏👏
Just to remind that %90 of these are ideas which are actually personal opinions. So most of the time not 'correcting' this pianist. Although it may seem like it. One can go an listen to this piece from hundred different 'legends' and these ideas would contradict each other. Whats important is whether he inspires the pianist who comes for suggestions at this level. Wanted to share this side of the coin as it is generally overlooked.
Чтобы на все это сказал Фредерик?
Ah, the obligatory head shaking, which somehow makes the music better? >.
A natural response for humans when they play beautiful music
Every pianist today, and for decades rushes from phrase to phrase. Why in such a hurry? Because they don't understand that notes are feelings or parts of feelings. They are afraid to linger on a note or a phrase, but that is absolutely necessary for both the pianist and the audience to fully appreciate the emotions and beauties of the music. If a singer rushes from phrase to phrase, we would say that she is unmusical. If a pianist does this, it's the same.
10:17 16:51
❤❤❤❤❤🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🍃🍃🍃🍃🍃🍀🤗
Rushing too much, needs to take more time indeed
Exactly what I thought
Very nice just think he could ask him the student what he thinks what he wants rather than telling him what to do
Il ne s'agit pas tant du temps écoulé que de ce qui réside entre les moments. Ce pianiste a encore un long chemin à parcourir, tandis que Monsieur Perehaia touche presque au but.
Дорогие друзья! Профанация гениальной музыки Шопена - непростительное кощунство. Мещанский лепет. Слушать невозможно, разодрана Великая баллада в клочья.Много лет звучит гениальное исполнение 4Баллады Алексеем Султановым!!!
Then please post this ballad performed by Alexei Sultanov. His name rings a familiar bell with me in my research on great pianists.. I would like to hear it.
Perahia is a goat, but are we not gonna mention how good of a pianist Yali Zaken is???
Is this on occupied land?
No. It’s in Israel.
@@HermanIngram Oh, ok, it's on occupied land, then.
@@DelsinM No. the Jews were there first. You are misinformed.
I mean why would a young person have the life experience to interpret this piece at all... after a person has suffered through loss and depression, they'll cry over the beginning of this piece.
Murray keeps trying to stpp him from rushimg. Plenty of drama later on. The student has a gre at technique but not introspective enough
uh not tame time ofcourse but take more time😉
Get someone with video skills next time. White Balance is totally off. I get eye cancer watching 😢
Agreed!
Wow wow - Student x does'nt feel anything! What a luckely occasion.
He was just rushing through every section, there was hardly any feeling anywhere! It was devoid of Chopin! Sadz!
@@sparkle1272001 lots of pretty sounds but lacking poetry and characterization
I disagree. I've studied this piece, and it has tremendous demands. Mr. Zakin has a brilliant technique and offered great sensitivity to his playing. He took the advice from Mr. Perahia and incorporated it immediately into his performance. This was strength under fire, and I was amazed at his resilience and intense willingness to change his performance under Mr. Perahia's strict guidance. Kudos to both Mr. Zakin and Mr. Perahia, and thank you, Jerusalem Music Centre for posting these amazing master classes.
He's in such a hurry.
😆🤦🏻🙄
too young for this masterpiece
와이리 히바리가없노
too young to master this piece
Perahia is much less poetic than this student naturally is, hence it's a big loss of time for this student.
I dont like these masterclasses. Students just become a copy of their Teacher. Jazz Musician Teachers never tell their students how to express Jazz Music.
Yeah I get what you mean. I think the student should apply the teachings of the masterclass in everything they do (if they like it), without feeling there's a right way to play. It's just a tool at their disposal.
It is called the "drilling" method of work. But you need to go beyond the details and draw your own conclusions from them, not follow the instructions blindly. Perahia is a unique and outstanding artist with a deep, sincere love of music. You can learn so much about music by listening to the class this way.
Ouch. This guy has no musical sense....
Oh please
True, and neither do most pianists today.
@@alanmadeira-metz3531 Certainly not true.
@@bubffm Lots of people agree with me. This young pianist is typical. He has no feeling for the emotional content of the music and how to express it. Being told when to play with rubato is pathetic.
@@alanmadeira-metz3531 Good for you. I dont. EOS
This is frustrating to watch!
почему так все торопливо?