Correction: 2:49 is actually from the Finale of Rach 3, although it does sound like the beginning of Schumann's Carnaval up a step. By the way, Rachmaninoff recorded Carnaval and you should listen: ruclips.net/video/qU4ZLZF2gZY/видео.html
Chopin’s polonaise heroique also has the exact same chords in the sequence that comes just before the repetition of the theme with added pyrotechnics 😂
Hi Professor , stop to tell stupidity , we know that piano " level " in America is below zero , but you think ( your University is disaster , balony ) you are a disaster , go to Russia and learn how to play piano !!!
You should have included Gould's chair. The fact is he got his skill and power from that chair. It was made from the wood of a 1000 year old Viking longboat, carved with mystic Elven runes, blessed with the soft murmurings of Orlando Gibbons, and oiled with the sweat of unicorns.
No, dear Professor, definitely no. You won‘t get away with only 16. You owe us the next 16 and the next 16…. This is one of the most fascinating videos on piano playing ever made. To say thank you is not enough.
Your point on Rubinstein "playing as if for you personally" . . . . is so true. I saw him around 1973, in Newcastle, England. We, the audience, were appalled when we realized the hall was going to be 5/6ths EMPTY. Given the stature of this "legendary" artist we felt ASHAMED at our community's poor turnout, and what Rubinstein would think of it. But he came out, all smiles and dignity, and played his absolute heart out for us. (Including many encores.) For him, it was not about being angry for those who had NOT shown up, but about rewarding those who had. And he expressed immense gratitude for our applause -- such as we could muster -- at the concert's conclusion.
Very interesting analysis! I'm glad to see that you have included Alicia de Larrocha (my mother) among the 16 legendary pianists of this video! ❤Of course there are many more legendary pianists that I hope we can hear your comments in future videos! Just like you say, they are all magnificent and all different! Long live to the difference! Thanks!!
From what I recall, the anecdote on Art Tatum and Vladimir Horowitz, as told by Oscar Peterson, was not that Tatum sat down and played the exact arrangement that Horowitz had just played; but instead that he sat and started improvising his own variations (most likely inspired in part by the Horowitz arrangement he had just heard) and he kept going with variation after variation until poor Horowitz had to stop him, and ask him “Dear God, when did you come up with all that?” And Tatum responded “Just now”. What pianists such as Horowitz and Rachmaninov admired above all, beyond technique, was Tatum’s (and in a broad sense, jazz pianists’) ability to just sit down and improvise material on the fly. Of course, they held Tatum in high regard because he was doing it with a special level of proficiency and technique.
Yeah I don't think this can be stressed enough. What isn't understood that what's most critical about jazz piano is a result of intelligent practice and vocabulary expansion and acquisition. People want so much to believe in unattainable miraculous genius maybe because it lets one off the hook. but as David Holland amazing virtuoso bassist points out it's consistent hard work and a step by step forward progress. The connection between the comprehensive important shapes of music theory and what your hands see (your hands see music theory as sound) can't be stressed enough.
@@vova47worst commenter on all jazz videos on youtube. When non-jazz people dislike the jazz genre because of the attitudes of certain snobs within the jazz community, they’re talking about people like this ole grandpa. I’m sure you’re absolutely right about Tatum, of course he probably never met Horowitz, but there’s ways of saying it buddy😘
@@paxwallace8324 totally agree with your comment about the step by step process of learning vocabulary and building technique. I was just pointing out another commenter who keeps on writing really negative and comparative takes on jazz videos 😂😅 probably not even worth writing about in hindsight.
Thanks for including a nice clip of my father performing (Arthur Rubinstein). Really interesting and informative observations about how different pianists use their bodies and hands while playing!
When I was in music school, we coined a term: "The Rubinstein Effect", which meant, after watching film of him playing, our playing would feel freer for a short time.
That’s even true for this composer-singer-guitarist of rock music: I’m just a fanatical lover of classical music, I don’t play it. But Rubinstein inspires me on every level
I don't comment on videos often, but I just really wanted to express how amazing this one was. Thanks tonebase and Mr. Norman! I feel more inspired today (:
Even among these titans, I get floored by Martha Argerich; there is something about how she understands music that somehow aligns with my mind. Does anyone else feel the same? About her, or any of the other pianists in the video?
I agree. Just watched the video titled "Martha Argerich (2020): Bach - Partita No. 2 in C Minor BWV 826" Age 79. I picked my pieces up afterwards. (and I'm sure that special "finger picking" technique the prof explained is the same Bach himself used)
Wow. Such great talent and the professor is no slouch either. And he speaks with admiration of these great pianists, no pretense , given the complexity of the pieces . Amazing what a human being is capable of doing.
I just love when he just destroooooooys mimicking murray, just flawless, with minimal movement of each part of the hand, making voicings with each finger, effortlessly. Amazing professor! You're one of the greatests!!
Professor I viewed this video a second time without realizing it as so much time passed....this time I noticed how well you yourself play...lucky young students in Indiana!!
Dude, you totally wiped me out with your lucid comments and playing...I reckon many piano students wish you had been their teacher. I wanted to see something great and different to make me subscribe... when you produced Art Tatum that did it. Being a Jazz musician, I too came in contact with those stories of Horowitz dressed all in black with a big brimmed hat sitting in the back of the club just groovin' on those monster altered chords and mercury-fingered "Bird" runs.. We bought his LP's in the 1960's. The man himself was an entire Planet.
This video is awesome. Tonebase has really brought the community together to create something special. This is peak social media imho. People with the same interests, expertise, appreciation coming forward to both learn and share one's knowledge without ego. The humility of these experts really makes the experience special. And as an added comment: there is no sense of chore. Every video I have watched contains a sense of appreciation for being able to help and discuss. The lack of arrogance is obvious and honestly, that makes our "piano crew" (shout out to twoset) proud
Professor, am I allowed to say that you are the first USA pianist that I heared that has decent tone of voice and the ability to play in the spirit of each original composer? I think your understanding of different playing types is really respectfull and really well. Thank you for sharing this video!
His description and discussion of Murray Perahia's technique is spot on. Perahia remains vastly underrated amongst the great 20th century pianists. He has the gift of making everything he plays sound natural and beautiful. Although nearly every great pianist has recorded Schumann's Fantasie in C, Op. 17, Perahia's recording remains my favorite. For me, no one has ever made this wondrous piece sound as beautiful.
I learned so much about the piano, playing, and style just listening to your analysis, and then demonstrating their style. Amazing! Thank you for your passion.
As far as Professor Krieger wondering about Schiff generating interest in music never meant for a concert hall, I would say that some performers fill a large hall (projection?) and some bring attention very close in, creating intimacy, as if we were all sitting together in a small room, one with a fireplace perhaps. I hope Professor Krieger is not totally consumed by administrative duties and departmental politics, being the chair of a large department, but still has enough time and energy to teach. Kids need his knowledge, skill, humor and beautiful playing.
As a (fairly) beginning piano student, I have come to believe that playing the piano must be one of the greatest miracles of life. Trying to unravel and execute the myriad movements, coordinating polyrhythms, understanding key signatures (and implementing them), trills, finger independence ... where do all these skills come from?
It's like an otherworldly , almost alien conundrum that allows these kinds of ability and talent. When one thinks about it, it doesn't seem possible. But it is, as you can see from the video.
Wonderful! Thank you Professor! Fascinating presentation and analysis. Love hearing about all the selected pianists, in particular Gilels, Richter, Alicia de Larocha as well as your memory of Argerich and the story between Horowitz and Tatum. I look forward to the next presentation, hope Alfred Brendel, Rudolf Serkin, Angela Hewitt and Evgeny Kissin, among others can be included in the next one. Thank you again.
Although a lifelong musician, I am not a piano expert. Thank you so much for this fascinating video. For a long time now, The two pianists who have moved me the most are Tatum and Argerich. His facility and style, and her touch and technique, are the pinnacles, IMHO.
Thanks so much, Dr Krieger! I love the pianists you’ve chosen, which includes my top three- Argerich, Zimmerman and Perahia, all of whom I’ve had the immense good fortune to hear live- also De Larrocha. I also love many of the others- each soulful and immensely musical as well as technical giants.
Very diplomatic and nicely described. The representation of different technique at the piano within his hands and body displays his understanding and skill. I would recommend a bit more depth and relaxation at the bottom of each key as any tension and the modern approach to playing the piano make shallower. All limitation and britelness of sound originates from a lack of follow through. This was a lesson best preserved from the teaching of Franz Liszt through his students of which I am a third generation. I enjoyed this video and hope to see more.
Interesting comment, modern pianists play all the notes correctly but without the feeling. As we have known since the development of modern piano competitions, real pianists feel the notes and the music.
Excellent video, albeit a little bit too brief (for my taste anyway) with regard to the particular techniques of these pianists. For Part 2, there are some obvious candidates: Michelangeli and Gould as several already have suggested. Lipatti, Cziffra, and Hamelin are also on the short list. Bonus points for the Horowitz impersonation which was spot on, as already remarked by several here.
This was just an appetizer dish that we made with Norman Krieger when he recorded lessons with us. I hope to dedicate individual videos to each of the pianists you mentioned (and more) in the not-too-distant future.
What's amazing about this old story is after is being debunked as complete fantasy somebody who claims to be a serious piano professor still repeats it publicly.
@@vova47 Nobody debunked anything, there's just no proof they met. This was in a time where camera's weren't everywhere, so they could very well have met without anyone recording it. There is footage of Horowitz on youtube where he's playing Tea For Two, a Tatum staple so personally i believe they did met but how that went fuck knows.
Sir, your Horowitz impression is impeccable! 09:09 made me laugh! This interview video is greeaaat!!!!! The pianists on the list are also my heroes; I completely agree with this. Thank you, Sir! Thank you, Tonebase!
it's fascinating to watch tatum's hands, the way he slides up and down the piano almost looks like working the neck of a string instrument. very efficient too, his left hand is perfectly still until there's somewhere else it needs to be. gives the impression of this huge clarity of musical thought
Superb video! And I find it amazing that Mr. Krieger seems able to play convincingly in the styles of almost all these pianists. I'd love to hear some of his own performances -- I'd bet he can play just about anything!
Please add Erroll Garner, Sokolov, Kissin, Edwin Fischer, Wilhelm Backhaus, Nelson Freire, Gina Bachauer, Glenn Gould… Professor Krieger is the perfect person to do this, and I would welcome more videos featuring him. Additionally, perhaps you could interview Carol Rosenberger.
Outstanding analysis and demonstration. I love how Art Tatum was included. I was hoping to hear an analysis of Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli, Byron Janis, Mitsuko Uchida, and even Percy Grainger.
Congratulations and thank you for this fantastic video. A professional pianist myself I attended 25 concerts and recitals played by Yuja Wang and I must say I never before heard such a controlled pianissimo. Even when I thought it couldn't get more quiet she played a decrescendo without missing a single tone....Fascinating!
This may be the best summary and informative short video I’ve ever seen discussing how many of the best pianists ever played the piano. A great late teacher of mine, classical and jazz pianist, and later an artist I produced said this, the problem with most pianists is that they have it backwards. One should focus on sound, then time (feel) then notes. Most focus on notes first. Then time. Then sound. So true. All of these pianists you summarized appear to have it right. They produce a sound first. Their sound. Then time. Then notes. Your video and illustrations are impressive and so well done. But I must say, if I had to pick the most unique sound here it would be hard to be more unique and light and identifiable than the only jazz pianist in this classical group. You guessed it, Art Tatum. And mainly blind, I suppose he out of all of them had to focus on sound first. And look what it resulted in? Horowitz asking, “How do you do it?” Well Mr Horowitz, Mr. Tatum reproduced a sound unlike any other. It’s the sound. Fantastic sir. Thank you for the video. (the artist was Dick Hindman. Sorry I forgot to mention. You can hear Dick Hindman play on a YT channel I created after his passing. Oscar Peterson called Hindman Oscar’s favorite pianist. They were very good friends).
I could listen to Professor Krieger talk about piano-playing for hours, if not more. I only wish he had reacted to Hamelin's playing, which more than deserved to be in this group. I had the privilege of spending the day with him once and hearing him practice. The man has zero barrier between what he intends to play and its execution.
Wonderful analysis. Gilels. Professor comments on how his technique sometimes leads to wrong notes. I heard Gilels in London around 1980 in the Grieg concerto. A lot of wrong notes but the most amazing depth of sound and musicality and by far the best version I have ever heard. I would have like to see the other great Russian Lazar Berman in the analysis.
An excellent lecture with very insightful commentary. I thoroughly enjoyed this session. Thank you for sharing your wonderful knowledge and experience of the great pianists.
Dear Mr. Norman Krieger, just from the very short examples you played in this video, especially from Bach, you must not only teach, but also give concerts and also immortalize your fantastic musical feeling by recording as much piano repertoire as possible. Music needs such an interpreter and such a musician as you. At least I believe that your Bach playing is unique, and it will be a blessing to hear you play, a greater blessing than hearing all the pianists presented in your video.
Excellent! Awesome Horowitz impressions/voices BTW!! I literally would NOT BE able to tell the difference between you and the late great Vladimir Horowitz by voice alone (and I have a decent ear)!!!! You are also a fantastic pianist and musician and I love hearing you perform and speak!
I have enjoyed this video probably more than any other video that I've seen on RUclips. To be able to see and hear these legendary pianists one after the other was fascinating. Professor Krieger gave fascinating insights into each pianist's technique and execution, not to mention personality. I look forward to more videos like this.
What a marvelous, marvelous video, analysis and demonstration. Mr. Krieger himself is superb here at the piano and in his musical thinking and interpretation. I will be listening to many of his own recordings. Also, I hope he makes another video where he analyzes the playing of 16 more pianists, since there are so more to study and analyze. Thank you Mr. Krieger. This was special.
He just throws his hands at those ornaments. It's insane. I was thinking of a video comparing Sokolov's Prokofiev 7 (3rd mvt) with a couple other pianists', but maybe we just need a whole video on Sokolov's ornaments.
@@tonebasePiano, that would be great if it is possible make another video, including Sokolof and Guiomar Novaes 😊. Thank you for this selection of really fantastic pianists!
Thank you, Mr. Kriegar. This is very exciting to watch.❤ Alicia de Larrocha reminded me of my piano. teacher's approach as a young child. What a wonderful list of classical pianists.
How inspiring this info is! Different approaches, so all well showing how every personality makes his or her music thanks to the composers! Beautifull..
Great video! Professor Krieger could extract and explain the most extraordinary characteristics of those phenomenal pianists in a few words. So impressive! Thank you for your analysis.
This is a fantastic video, and your playing is beautiful, but you left out one of MY very favorite pianists, Alfred Brendel. However, you DID include my other favorite, the great Claudio Arrau, so no hard feelings. 😁
What a great video! More please. I was lucky enough to see six of these geniuses and even interview a couple of them. Rubinstein, Horowitz, Delarocha, Cliburn, Perahia, and Zimmerman. Wonderful memories that you bring back for me.
great break down; should be a series! but idk; Yuja over Kissin, Yundi, Lisitsa? and no Gould? we need one on contemporary pianists. ofc legends will always be legends- but there r legends performing today as well yk
Best video so far - give us more. Please take a look at someone like M. Argerich over the lifetime of her skills. I recently heard her and could not believe the speed she still had at the keyboard. Loved this!
Many thanks for this post. It demonstrates techniques that can widen young pianists’ appreciation of how to approach their music. Loved the voice too..
This is wonderful, thank you. As well as the fantastic content, the video editing is great. I particularly like the split screen bits where Krieger mimics the pianist in question.
Professor Krieger neglected to mention that Bugs Bunny was an actor in addition to being a highly schooled but idiosyncratic pianist. Bugs was an extremely gifted and accomplished student of Jakob Gimpel, who himself studied with Steuermann, but found it difficult to find anyone in Europe during the thirties who would hire him to play music. He had many adventures bumming around in Europe, for example living in Paris when he worked with Django Reinhardt to help him master playing with only three fingers. But conditions on the continent were worsening, and not only could he not find work, he felt increasingly in danger of being eaten. So he booked passage to New York and luckily ran into his old mentor Gimpel, with whom he migrated to Hollywood.
Perahia's playing is like the sun shining through a cascade of water, so fluid, so brilliant, so flexible. One of the greatest pianists, because he made Mozart sound easy and natural. But his Rachmaninov (EtudesTableaux) is also probably the best there is for those pieces.
What a wonderful video. I’m a jazz saxophonist, and very much enjoy watching different sax players techniques and how they approach the instrument. I’m very happy to hear someone who see’s that one’s artistic and emotional approach is just as, or even more important then their technical proficiency. It’s very possible to have someone be technically amazing, yet be lacking the emotional side of music. I hear this all the time, and as you put it so well, sometimes a missed note just isn’t that important when the whole package is performed so meaningfully. Thank you. I enjoyed this very much.
Thanks for this video! What strikes me is that the personalities are all so different, but at the very core of their physical techniques, there are more similarities than there are differences. Even Art Tatum. They found what is natural.
So very moving. Perahia continues to be my hero, and studying with Patricia Michaelian, who studied at Curtis with Rudolph Serkin and worked with Murray Perahia while there, led me into a dimension of fulllheartedness and emotional immersion. As Mr. Perhahia said in one master class, "Learn technique and get it out of the way as quickly as possible. Then we can concentration on the music."
please do a part 2 to this. fantastic points of view on the physical techniques. Would love to hear your thoughts on Lang Lang's over the top theatrics and the impact of that on his sound.
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Correction: 2:49 is actually from the Finale of Rach 3, although it does sound like the beginning of Schumann's Carnaval up a step. By the way, Rachmaninoff recorded Carnaval and you should listen: ruclips.net/video/qU4ZLZF2gZY/видео.html
Chopin’s polonaise heroique also has the exact same chords in the sequence that comes just before the repetition of the theme with added pyrotechnics 😂
I actually thought it was rach 3 when I first heard it haha
Well I didn’t misunderstand that lol
Hi Professor , stop to tell stupidity , we know that piano " level " in America is below zero , but you think ( your University is disaster , balony ) you are a disaster , go to Russia and learn how to play piano !!!
You should have included Gould's chair. The fact is he got his skill and power from that chair. It was made from the wood of a 1000 year old Viking longboat, carved with mystic Elven runes, blessed with the soft murmurings of Orlando Gibbons, and oiled with the sweat of unicorns.
No, dear Professor, definitely no. You won‘t get away with only 16. You owe us the next 16 and the next 16…. This is one of the most fascinating videos on piano playing ever made. To say thank you is not enough.
I totally agree
I also totally AGREE❤
Exactly 👍👍
Anch'io! Anch'io! 🙏
Trifonov, Matsuev, Yuncham, Fischer, Kissin, Lang-Lang, etc.
Your point on Rubinstein "playing as if for you personally" . . . . is so true.
I saw him around 1973, in Newcastle, England. We, the audience, were appalled when we realized the hall was going to be 5/6ths EMPTY. Given the stature of this "legendary" artist we felt ASHAMED at our community's poor turnout, and what Rubinstein would think of it.
But he came out, all smiles and dignity, and played his absolute heart out for us. (Including many encores.) For him, it was not about being angry for those who had NOT shown up, but about rewarding those who had. And he expressed immense gratitude for our applause -- such as we could muster -- at the concert's conclusion.
This story was great to read. ❤
In fact Rubinstein played for me yesterday.
@@MARTIN201199what, how
You're lucky you had a chance to see him!
Wish I could have been there :’)
His recordings of Chopin’s nocturnes is what really got me into classical music
Very interesting analysis! I'm glad to see that you have included Alicia de Larrocha (my mother) among the 16 legendary pianists of this video! ❤Of course there are many more legendary pianists that I hope we can hear your comments in future videos! Just like you say, they are all magnificent and all different! Long live to the difference! Thanks!!
Siento mucha admiración por Alicia de Larrocha ❤
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@@andrewb5201 🙏😍
A legend, no doubt. A gift to our senses. Greetings from Spain!
@@alexsexy 🙏😍
9:08 😂 You imitate so well how Horowitz was speaking english! Wonderful maestro! Your ear is definitely perfect!
Exactly what I was going to say 😆
I noticed this as well... it was flawless! Not just the accent, but the accentuation, the prosody. Like channeling Volodya. Maybe Rubinstein next? :)
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And 2:26 😂
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From what I recall, the anecdote on Art Tatum and Vladimir Horowitz, as told by Oscar Peterson, was not that Tatum sat down and played the exact arrangement that Horowitz had just played; but instead that he sat and started improvising his own variations (most likely inspired in part by the Horowitz arrangement he had just heard) and he kept going with variation after variation until poor Horowitz had to stop him, and ask him “Dear God, when did you come up with all that?” And Tatum responded “Just now”.
What pianists such as Horowitz and Rachmaninov admired above all, beyond technique, was Tatum’s (and in a broad sense, jazz pianists’) ability to just sit down and improvise material on the fly. Of course, they held Tatum in high regard because he was doing it with a special level of proficiency and technique.
Yeah I don't think this can be stressed enough. What isn't understood that what's most critical about jazz piano is a result of intelligent practice and vocabulary expansion and acquisition. People want so much to believe in unattainable miraculous genius maybe because it lets one off the hook. but as David Holland amazing virtuoso bassist points out it's consistent hard work and a step by step forward progress. The connection between the comprehensive important shapes of music theory and what your hands see (your hands see music theory as sound) can't be stressed enough.
@@vova47worst commenter on all jazz videos on youtube. When non-jazz people dislike the jazz genre because of the attitudes of certain snobs within the jazz community, they’re talking about people like this ole grandpa. I’m sure you’re absolutely right about Tatum, of course he probably never met Horowitz, but there’s ways of saying it buddy😘
@@TheStewie117 ah poor baby is a lousy improvisor sorry you don't want to do the work but if you do you'll see it's just a step by step process.
@@paxwallace8324 totally agree with your comment about the step by step process of learning vocabulary and building technique. I was just pointing out another commenter who keeps on writing really negative and comparative takes on jazz videos 😂😅 probably not even worth writing about in hindsight.
Also he said Tatum wouldn't look at the piano. Tatum was blind.
Thanks for including a nice clip of my father performing (Arthur Rubinstein). Really interesting and informative observations about how different pianists use their bodies and hands while playing!
I could listen to Mr. Krieger talk about the piano/pianists all day. Very knowledgeable, passionate, and a wonderful speaking voice as well!
And he sounds amazingly similar to Marc-Andre Hamelin!
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Hamelin? Sokolov?
When I was in music school, we coined a term: "The Rubinstein Effect", which meant, after watching film of him playing, our playing would feel freer for a short time.
That’s even true for this composer-singer-guitarist of rock music: I’m just a fanatical lover of classical music, I don’t play it. But Rubinstein inspires me on every level
This demonstration/ lecture a real gift …everything you would ever want in a teacher.
Being a pianist,i totally agree! Such a warm and chatming personality!
Sokolov is a pianist that i wished was in here. His technique is one of the cleanest among top pianists
Absolutely 💯
Pogorelich also
Michelangeli too
I agree
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I don't comment on videos often, but I just really wanted to express how amazing this one was. Thanks tonebase and Mr. Norman! I feel more inspired today (:
Even among these titans, I get floored by Martha Argerich; there is something about how she understands music that somehow aligns with my mind.
Does anyone else feel the same? About her, or any of the other pianists in the video?
Yes…Gilels
Agree
Emil gilels
Yes, sometimes I feel with Argerich that she’s transmitting something through the music that goes beyond it, like the soul of life itself!
I agree. Just watched the video titled "Martha Argerich (2020): Bach - Partita No. 2 in C Minor BWV 826" Age 79. I picked my pieces up afterwards. (and I'm sure that special "finger picking" technique the prof explained is the same Bach himself used)
I loved EVERY SINGLE THING about this video! Thank you, Professor - you are so down to earth. Wonderful ❤
Totally agree 👍🏻
Wow. Such great talent and the professor is no slouch either. And he speaks with admiration of these great pianists, no pretense , given the complexity of the pieces . Amazing what a human being is capable of doing.
Mr Krieger is really one of a kind to me. So humble and so honoring all of those fantastic players. Just a pleasure to watch and to listen to.
Thank you.
Such a warm gift.
So glad Claudio Arrau from Chile was included in this summary.
I just love when he just destroooooooys mimicking murray, just flawless, with minimal movement of each part of the hand, making voicings with each finger, effortlessly. Amazing professor! You're one of the greatests!!
Professor I viewed this video a second time without realizing it as so much time passed....this time I noticed how well you yourself play...lucky young students in Indiana!!
Dude, you totally wiped me out with your lucid comments and playing...I reckon many piano students wish you had been their teacher. I wanted to see something great and different to make me subscribe... when you produced Art Tatum that did it. Being a Jazz musician, I too came in contact with those stories of Horowitz dressed all in black with a big brimmed hat sitting in the back of the club just groovin' on those monster altered chords and mercury-fingered "Bird" runs.. We bought his LP's in the 1960's. The man himself was an entire Planet.
This video is awesome. Tonebase has really brought the community together to create something special. This is peak social media imho. People with the same interests, expertise, appreciation coming forward to both learn and share one's knowledge without ego. The humility of these experts really makes the experience special.
And as an added comment: there is no sense of chore. Every video I have watched contains a sense of appreciation for being able to help and discuss. The lack of arrogance is obvious and honestly, that makes our "piano crew" (shout out to twoset) proud
I love the Horowitz impressions. It would have been great to see Cziffra in this list
Fascinating. Can’t wait for the next list. Michelangeli, Angela Hewitt, and Gould would be great additions.
And Maurizio Pollini.
Kempff, m a hamelin, sokolov ....
Dr. Krieger brilliantly conveys each of these incredible pianist so very well. Thank you for this.
Professor, am I allowed to say that you are the first USA pianist that I heared that has decent tone of voice and the ability to play in the spirit of each original composer? I think your understanding of different playing types is really respectfull and really well. Thank you for sharing this video!
His description and discussion of Murray Perahia's technique is spot on. Perahia remains vastly underrated amongst the great 20th century pianists. He has the gift of making everything he plays sound natural and beautiful. Although nearly every great pianist has recorded Schumann's Fantasie in C, Op. 17, Perahia's recording remains my favorite. For me, no one has ever made this wondrous piece sound as beautiful.
I learned so much about the piano, playing, and style just listening to your analysis, and then demonstrating their style. Amazing! Thank you for your passion.
9:07 , perfect Horowitz impression 🤣🤣🤣
As far as Professor Krieger wondering about Schiff generating interest in music never meant for a concert hall, I would say that some performers fill a large hall (projection?) and some bring attention very close in, creating intimacy, as if we were all sitting together in a small room, one with a fireplace perhaps. I hope Professor Krieger is not totally consumed by administrative duties and departmental politics, being the chair of a large department, but still has enough time and energy to teach. Kids need his knowledge, skill, humor and beautiful playing.
As a (fairly) beginning piano student, I have come to believe that playing the piano must be one of the greatest miracles of life. Trying to unravel and execute the myriad movements, coordinating polyrhythms, understanding key signatures (and implementing them), trills, finger independence ... where do all these skills come from?
Muy buen comentario!
It's like an otherworldly , almost alien conundrum that allows these kinds of ability and talent. When one thinks about it, it doesn't seem possible. But it is, as you can see from the video.
Wonderful! Thank you Professor! Fascinating presentation and analysis. Love hearing about all the selected pianists, in particular Gilels, Richter, Alicia de Larocha as well as your memory of Argerich and the story between Horowitz and Tatum. I look forward to the next presentation, hope Alfred Brendel, Rudolf Serkin, Angela Hewitt and Evgeny Kissin, among others can be included in the next one. Thank you again.
Although a lifelong musician, I am not a piano expert. Thank you so much for this fascinating video. For a long time now, The two pianists who have moved me the most are Tatum and Argerich. His facility and style, and her touch and technique, are the pinnacles, IMHO.
Wonderful presentation. Good to see that I.U. Piano Dept. is in good hands. Very informative. Thanks!
Thanks so much, Dr Krieger! I love the pianists you’ve chosen, which includes my top three- Argerich, Zimmerman and Perahia, all of whom I’ve had the immense good fortune to hear live- also De Larrocha. I also love many of the others- each soulful and immensely musical as well as technical giants.
I also specially love these 3..... 🙋🏼♀️🌹
As a pianist, I very much approve of this roster of pianists that were selected to be discussed! Great video.
What about Grigory Sokolov?
Very diplomatic and nicely described. The representation of different technique at the piano within his hands and body displays his understanding and skill. I would recommend a bit more depth and relaxation at the bottom of each key as any tension and the modern approach to playing the piano make shallower. All limitation and britelness of sound originates from a lack of follow through. This was a lesson best preserved from the teaching of Franz Liszt through his students of which I am a third generation. I enjoyed this video and hope to see more.
Interesting comment, modern pianists play all the notes correctly but without the feeling. As we have known since the development of modern piano competitions, real pianists feel the notes and the music.
I must say, I thoroughly enjoyed his understanding and explanation of every composer…
Wonderful video, I love how he gets to Art Tatum and he’s just so bewildered by how good he is he doesn’t even get into any esoteric technique
He couldn't even if he wanted to.
Excellent video, albeit a little bit too brief (for my taste anyway) with regard to the particular techniques of these pianists. For Part 2, there are some obvious candidates: Michelangeli and Gould as several already have suggested. Lipatti, Cziffra, and Hamelin are also on the short list. Bonus points for the Horowitz impersonation which was spot on, as already remarked by several here.
This was just an appetizer dish that we made with Norman Krieger when he recorded lessons with us. I hope to dedicate individual videos to each of the pianists you mentioned (and more) in the not-too-distant future.
What about Sokolov? Especially his Chopin op.25 no 12, thats insane
Kenny Drew jr.
You forgot Cyprien Katsaris
Samson François.
Ingrid Haebler.
Annie Fischer..
Beatrice Rana.
Maria Yudina.
Tatiana Nikolaieva.
Piotr Anderszewski.
Maria Tipo.
Such a joy. The story about Art Taum and Horowitz was so amazing. This video was revelatory. Thank you.
What's amazing about this old story is after is being debunked as complete fantasy somebody who claims to be a serious piano professor still repeats it publicly.
@@vova47 Nobody debunked anything, there's just no proof they met. This was in a time where camera's weren't everywhere, so they could very well have met without anyone recording it. There is footage of Horowitz on youtube where he's playing Tea For Two, a Tatum staple so personally i believe they did met but how that went fuck knows.
@@vova47Debunked?? By??
Every good pianist knows that Tatum was GOD. ❤ I love hearing pianists just rave about Tatum.
His finger technic is unparalleled. I read that he'd often spin a nut (?) so fast it would become a blur...perhaps some sort of exercise.
Can we please acknowledge the amazing voice impression Norman Krieger does of Horowitz? 😂
Sir, your Horowitz impression is impeccable! 09:09 made me laugh!
This interview video is greeaaat!!!!! The pianists on the list are also my heroes; I completely agree with this. Thank you, Sir! Thank you, Tonebase!
One of the best Tone Base postings.. Such perfect choices by a great pianist, himself, Norman Krieger!
it's fascinating to watch tatum's hands, the way he slides up and down the piano almost looks like working the neck of a string instrument. very efficient too, his left hand is perfectly still until there's somewhere else it needs to be. gives the impression of this huge clarity of musical thought
Enjoyed this so much. I have been lucky enough to see Zimerman perform, that was such a treat!
What an absolute JOY to discover this today. great music, great commentary, just a jewel of a video. Thank you ever so much
Superb video! And I find it amazing that Mr. Krieger seems able to play convincingly in the styles of almost all these pianists. I'd love to hear some of his own performances -- I'd bet he can play just about anything!
Please add Erroll Garner, Sokolov, Kissin, Edwin Fischer, Wilhelm Backhaus, Nelson Freire, Gina Bachauer, Glenn Gould… Professor Krieger is the perfect person to do this, and I would welcome more videos featuring him.
Additionally, perhaps you could interview Carol Rosenberger.
+ Keith Jarrett!
+ Dmitri Alexeev, Dmitry Bashkirov
Outstanding analysis and demonstration. I love how Art Tatum was included.
I was hoping to hear an analysis of Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli, Byron Janis, Mitsuko Uchida, and even Percy Grainger.
whenever i think of how a big tall guy "should" look at the piano i think of Richter or Michelangeli.
but then Horowitz shows up says who cares.
All piano students of every age should watch this video! Thank you!!! And I love your impersonations too!!!
Congratulations and thank you for this fantastic video.
A professional pianist myself I attended 25 concerts and recitals played by Yuja Wang and I must say I never before heard such a controlled pianissimo. Even when I thought it couldn't get more quiet she played a decrescendo without missing a single tone....Fascinating!
This may be the best summary and informative short video I’ve ever seen discussing how many of the best pianists ever played the piano. A great late teacher of mine, classical and jazz pianist, and later an artist I produced said this, the problem with most pianists is that they have it backwards. One should focus on sound, then time (feel) then notes. Most focus on notes first. Then time. Then sound. So true. All of these pianists you summarized appear to have it right. They produce a sound first. Their sound. Then time. Then notes. Your video and illustrations are impressive and so well done. But I must say, if I had to pick the most unique sound here it would be hard to be more unique and light and identifiable than the only jazz pianist in this classical group. You guessed it, Art Tatum. And mainly blind, I suppose he out of all of them had to focus on sound first. And look what it resulted in? Horowitz asking, “How do you do it?” Well Mr Horowitz, Mr. Tatum reproduced a sound unlike any other. It’s the sound. Fantastic sir. Thank you for the video. (the artist was Dick Hindman. Sorry I forgot to mention. You can hear Dick Hindman play on a YT channel I created after his passing. Oscar Peterson called Hindman Oscar’s favorite pianist. They were very good friends).
I could listen to Professor Krieger talk about piano-playing for hours, if not more. I only wish he had reacted to Hamelin's playing, which more than deserved to be in this group. I had the privilege of spending the day with him once and hearing him practice. The man has zero barrier between what he intends to play and its execution.
Wonderful analysis. Gilels. Professor comments on how his technique sometimes leads to wrong notes. I heard Gilels in London around 1980 in the Grieg concerto. A lot of wrong notes but the most amazing depth of sound and musicality and by far the best version I have ever heard. I would have like to see the other great Russian Lazar Berman in the analysis.
An excellent lecture with very insightful commentary. I thoroughly enjoyed this session. Thank you for sharing your wonderful knowledge and experience of the great pianists.
Dear Mr. Norman Krieger, just from the very short examples you played in this video, especially from Bach, you must not only teach, but also give concerts and also immortalize your fantastic musical feeling by recording as much piano repertoire as possible. Music needs such an interpreter and such a musician as you. At least I believe that your Bach playing is unique, and it will be a blessing to hear you play, a greater blessing than hearing all the pianists presented in your video.
IMHO Norman is pretty darn good himself! The insights provided by someone of his calibre and awareness is most appreciated!!
Excellent! Awesome Horowitz impressions/voices BTW!! I literally would NOT BE able to tell the difference between you and the late great Vladimir Horowitz by voice alone (and I have a decent ear)!!!! You are also a fantastic pianist and musician and I love hearing you perform and speak!
I have enjoyed this video probably more than any other video that I've seen on RUclips. To be able to see and hear these legendary pianists one after the other was fascinating. Professor Krieger gave fascinating insights into each pianist's technique and execution, not to mention personality. I look forward to more videos like this.
9:08 what??? It's so perfect.
I literally thought it was interview of him
I am one year of piano practice in at the age of 41, definitely needed this video! Magnificent thank You
Magnificent!
“We’re all different. We shouldn’t sound alike. We should be ourselves.” ♥️
Excellent observations by Mr. Krieger, and lots of variety in his comments! We are indebted to both of you for this treasure trove of musicality...🎵
Thank you Professor Krieger!
Thank you, Professor Krieger! This video is valuable beyond words. Bravo.
What a marvelous, marvelous video, analysis and demonstration. Mr. Krieger himself is superb here at the piano and in his musical thinking and interpretation. I will be listening to many of his own recordings. Also, I hope he makes another video where he analyzes the playing of 16 more pianists, since there are so more to study and analyze. Thank you Mr. Krieger. This was special.
Just watch Sokolov play "la poule". Thats insane technique. The cleanest ornaments of all time
He just throws his hands at those ornaments. It's insane. I was thinking of a video comparing Sokolov's Prokofiev 7 (3rd mvt) with a couple other pianists', but maybe we just need a whole video on Sokolov's ornaments.
I hate his ornaments in baroque playing. They sound like helicopter blades--
@@tonebasePiano, that would be great if it is possible make another video, including Sokolof and Guiomar Novaes 😊. Thank you for this selection of really fantastic pianists!
Yes more of Sokolov please😄
i d love to see Michelangeli in that list!
This is gold ! Prof is so engaging, charismatic and a great narrator and entertainer ! That imitation of Horowitz was so spot on 🏆🏆🏆🌹🙏
Thank you, Mr. Kriegar.
This is very exciting to watch.❤ Alicia de Larrocha reminded me of my piano. teacher's approach as a young child. What a wonderful list of classical pianists.
How inspiring this info is!
Different approaches, so all well showing how every personality makes his or her music thanks to the composers!
Beautifull..
Great video! Professor Krieger could extract and explain the most extraordinary characteristics of those phenomenal pianists in a few words. So impressive! Thank you for your analysis.
This is a fantastic video, and your playing is beautiful, but you left out one of MY very favorite pianists, Alfred Brendel.
However, you DID include my other favorite, the great Claudio Arrau, so no hard feelings. 😁
What a great video! More please. I was lucky enough to see six of these geniuses and even interview a couple of them. Rubinstein, Horowitz, Delarocha, Cliburn, Perahia, and Zimmerman. Wonderful memories that you bring back for me.
This was absolutely wonderful! Loved every second. Thanks for posting
great break down; should be a series! but idk; Yuja over Kissin, Yundi, Lisitsa? and no Gould?
we need one on contemporary pianists. ofc legends will always be legends- but there r legends performing today as well yk
excellent..love your Russian accent..your right about Tatum, def from another planet superbeing..
Best video so far - give us more. Please take a look at someone like M. Argerich over the lifetime of her skills. I recently heard her and could not believe the speed she still had at the keyboard. Loved this!
Dear Professor, thank you for such a great video. Looking forward to the next list (probably with Gould and other interesting pianists) 🙏
Many thanks for this post. It demonstrates techniques that can widen young pianists’ appreciation of how to approach their music. Loved the voice too..
This is wonderful, thank you.
As well as the fantastic content, the video editing is great. I particularly like the split screen bits where Krieger mimics the pianist in question.
Professor Krieger neglected to mention that Bugs Bunny was an actor in addition to being a highly schooled but idiosyncratic pianist. Bugs was an extremely gifted and accomplished student of Jakob Gimpel, who himself studied with Steuermann, but found it difficult to find anyone in Europe during the thirties who would hire him to play music. He had many adventures bumming around in Europe, for example living in Paris when he worked with Django Reinhardt to help him master playing with only three fingers. But conditions on the continent were worsening, and not only could he not find work, he felt increasingly in danger of being eaten. So he booked passage to New York and luckily ran into his old mentor Gimpel, with whom he migrated to Hollywood.
Bugs was also an accomplished dancer and conductor.
How interesting.
Thanks for sharing.
(I have missed María João Pires; the great lady of the piano).
Amazing video ! I love the comments on how playing relates to the personality of each master
i aspire to murray perahia's touch while playing mozart. its so legible and fluid, without being bone dry. his touch really is something else
Perahia's playing is like the sun shining through a cascade of water, so fluid, so brilliant, so flexible. One of the greatest pianists, because he made Mozart sound easy and natural. But his Rachmaninov (EtudesTableaux) is also probably the best there is for those pieces.
What a wonderful video. I’m a jazz saxophonist, and very much enjoy watching different sax players techniques and how they approach the instrument. I’m very happy to hear someone who see’s that one’s artistic and emotional approach is just as, or even more important then their technical proficiency. It’s very possible to have someone be technically amazing, yet be lacking the emotional side of music. I hear this all the time, and as you put it so well, sometimes a missed note just isn’t that important when the whole package is performed so meaningfully. Thank you. I enjoyed this very much.
De Larrocha, Argerich, Richter, are my top 3 in no particular order
I don't play piano or even listen to this type of music but this was absolutely fascinating! What great insights.
Bravo, Professor! Thanks for the great video, we're all hoping for the next set of great pianists!
Thanks for this video! What strikes me is that the personalities are all so different, but at the very core of their physical techniques, there are more similarities than there are differences. Even Art Tatum. They found what is natural.
Loved hearing Professor Kreiger’s playing. Would love to hear more of his performances
So very moving. Perahia continues to be my hero, and studying with Patricia Michaelian, who studied at Curtis with Rudolph Serkin and worked with Murray Perahia while there, led me into a dimension of fulllheartedness and emotional immersion. As Mr. Perhahia said in one master class, "Learn technique and get it out of the way as quickly as possible. Then we can concentration on the music."
It's so interesting to learn the personal stories of these pianists 😊
Thank you Norman for sharing your knowledges with so much generosity. Your imitation of Wlad was not bad at all. You are a complete artist.
2:26 His impression of Horowitz is spot on!!
Fantastic and so knowledgeable. To be able to just pull out those musical examples from so many works. Wonderful.
That is an important point, I think. To have command of all those pieces is pretty awe inspiring.
What a marvellous video and teacher. Absolutely lovely.
Such a wonderful video delivered by a master pianist. Performing with this artist was always inspiring and insightful.
Thank you for this!
please do a part 2 to this. fantastic points of view on the physical techniques. Would love to hear your thoughts on Lang Lang's over the top theatrics and the impact of that on his sound.
Me too!
@@brittopiano If we're adding people to the wishlist, I'd love to see Cyprien Katsaris's technique analyzed!
WHERE IS KISSIN
@@davidpark737and where is cziffra too
And sokolov please
A wonderful short lecture. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and capability as a pianist and teacher.