People living rich privileged lives in sunny California, buying $9 coffees have no clue how to write down to earth grounded stories about loss or how people need to “do better”
It's an unwritten rule here in California that everybody is a struggling underdog contrary to your income. I know tech engineers who make 250k a year and have made smart investments making them millionaires before the age of 32. They would often talk shit on big big corporations and capitalism being bad while comparing themselves to fast food workers and claiming to be below middle class people. The underdogs are typically the good guys. The rich and privileged are typically the bad guys. A rich Californian will pretend to be an underdog.
To be fair, Falcon and the Winter Soldier was written by an absolute nobody, so he may actually have experience with that. Of course, that just begs the question why an absolute nobody had total creative control over this show.
Up your rates? Sure. And then everyone else does as well and you're directly stuck at where you were And you'll be getting your hardware from where exactly? Your suppliers are dealing with the same issues. And their suppliers. Kinda hard to be an electrician when you can't get new wire. Or an HVAC installer when the filters run out.
@@guyincognito1406no, that's not how it would work. Groceries sitting in in trucks, if they make it to the store, someone has to pull the pallets off and then put them on the shelves, no obviously that's not skilled labor but it's necessary
Modern electronics are dependent on about a dozen people who know how to correctly mine a specific kind of quartz in the Appalachian mountains. There are a dozen or so more people who know how to make the precursors to the rest of the electronics production supply chain. At best technology just stops progressing. What's more likely is catastrophic collapse of industry and the remaining population in the following years. Even with someone like Tony Stark and Wakanda, only about 10% of the Snap survivors would be around when it was reversed. Thanos killed >95% of industrialized populations. Earth wouldn't have the same countries.
They completely forgot that the MCU WW2 army wasn’t segregated and that, that would've had knock on effects for the rest of the MCU history. Time and again they have shown integrated multi ethnic societies getting along throughout their history hell even the Norse Gods are diverse so this all of a sudden everything was actually racist stuff doesn’t work with the world they created and the stories they told. In fact, the only people shown to hold racist prejudices in the MCU were the Wakandans.
I never thought about this, but it is actually a hilarious interpretation. They created a world where the only racists come from the African super nation. Incredible, 10/10 planning.
Worldbuilding is hard for MCU writers, we had anti-grav technology in 1942 as seen in the first Captain America but in modern day MCU (Avengers, all the Iron Man, Black Widow and a lot more) apparently that technology just fell apart somewhere.
@@xcape4734 I agree, just because somethings not shown doesn’t mean it's not there. However, when the opposite is constantly being shown as true, that does mean it isn’t there. Or at least it’s certainly not there in the low-resolution way they presented it in this show. You can have it one way or the other and trying to have both is just bad world building.
I find it interesting how they treat Bucky like a total villain for being imprisoned and brainwashed for 70 years but Lamar is treated completely differently despite being imprisoned by the government for 30 years and doing missions for the US government. What a weird way to write a show and a character conflict. Shouldn’t Bucky and Lamar have some comradere over their similar experiences? It would have been more interesting if the dynamics were Lamar and Bucky (the government can be evil) vs Falcon and John Walker (the government can be good). With the Flag smashers being the “burn it all down for fun” evil joker faction they have to come together to defeat.
Marvel missed an easy opportunity to introduce Dr Doom with the blip. They could talk about how the borders are all fucked and entirely new countries have risen up like Latvaria. Mention that Dr Doom founded a nation during the chaos and confusion and make that be a part of the challenge without actually making him appear on screen. Fans would go nuts for it and it would totally make sense, it could also set up Doom for future projects like an avengers movie.
Could have been that Latvaria was always there, but not a major player on the world's stage. Doom may have been quietly stockpiling for years, then after the blip he's a tiny country with vast resources that other nearby countries need. Not to mention his unique tech. Doombots would be extremely useful in a world with a shortage of labor. Most importantly, he would provide the type of "do better" leadership that this show is asking for. Dictators tend to get stuff done without much red tape. He could be absorbing entire countries and never fire a single shot.
@@JoeSyxpack Just have the neighboring nations lose more population, while Latvaria lost almost no one. Suddenly they're the big nation in the area, with a military that isn't half dust; instant empire. There's no reason to think the blip would hit every nation identically.
@@DrViperVideos Sol just comes in, takes a seat, and just sighs. And then Jacob Kane as a bartender says “first time?”. Sol nods, and as a response Jacob says “trust me, it could’ve be worse”. Sol then says “is that right”, Jacob then subtlety nods over to Jon Snow whispering “muh queen, muh queen…”.
I'd say he did one definitive thing wrong. Namely, going "off the books" to go after Bucky/Falcon when they went to find Zemo and hunt down the Smashers. There's no harm to calling it in and getting GRC backup/approval for that sort of operation, cause Zemo's an escaped felon and the Smashers are terrorists. Ofc they'd get sanction for it and things might've turned out much better with official sanction plus backup on the goodies' team.
If it got a movie, it would have been a story of famine, destitution and just suffering in general, best case scenario a Schindler's List on steroids, not exactly their forte.
The blip should have been the catalyst for everything happening for the next 3 phases. It could justify things like DR. Doom taking power, hydra reforming, skrull infultration etc.
I dont know how they even discuss it appropriately without spending at least a show or movie discussing all the ramifications and complete changes made to the entire world let alone the universe. It was an idiotic event to add in to begin with. It’s just so unbelievable that society itself would be upended
@@spendsshanks6050 yes please a semi post apocalyptic political thriller with people fighting over resources and shooting each other over land claims since returning from the blip while the avengers and what's left of the government try to hold it all together. Meanwhile villains like doom are taking advantage and consolidating power such as conquering parts of eastern Europe and renaming it Latvaria offering the returned and now displaced victims of the blip homes and resources so long as they bend the knee. That would be an awesome political thriller.
The fact that writers had Sam unable to get a loan or make money as Falcon when he’d be the most famous person in Louisiana is ridiculous. Dude would be asked by everybody in the state to make an appearance, including Southern and Grambling State, the two black colleges in the state.
Sam JUST fucking executed a super high risk mission for the US Military rescuing a high value asset that NOBODY else could have done without massively more resources and losses being expended, and he did it solo. HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN PAID FOR THAT! Do they not know the US Military budget? HE COULD LITERALLY BUY A NEW FUCKING BOAT AFTER THAT ONE MISSION! Easily! He could fucking pay Pimp My Ride to trick out his boat with fucking spinning feather rims. Sam could do ONE fucking birthday party for like some millionaire's kid and have more than enough money to fix his fucking boat. The poor superhero angle STOPS WORKING when the hero goes public. It works with Spider-Man because he's a kid with a secret identity juggling his public and private lives, but when he gets like signed on with SHIELD or the Avengers or whoever, they don't just tell him to do shit for them and NOT pay him. He gets MORE resources after teaming up. SAM IS A SOLIDER AND WAS ALWAYS PUBLICLY FALCON! Even if when he was Snapped back to life, he started literally DIRT poor, he'd be a millionaire by the end of the week! But Disney thinks nobody wants to give a black man money for any reason apparently! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!? How is writing this bad!? And how is the Acolyte worse!?
@@haku8135 If he's executing that mission as a member of the armed forces, then he gets standard scale with a combat bonus and the like. If he's operating as an outside contractor, it raises questions about why the military seems to be paying for/supplying/maintaining his snazzy gear. Being a soldier doesn't make you rich, not even an officer, although by the time you hit flag rank there are opportunities for graft. None of which changes the fact that he's a public superhero, and the MCU heroes don't seem to grow themselves rogues galleries, which makes being public far less risky to the people around the hero. Which is to say Sam's clients don't have to worry about the Wizard or the Vulture hitting their business because Sam cut an ad for them.
@@haku8135 He did get paid for that, but his sister is a stubborn brat and didn't want any support until she could properly get back on her feet herself. Despite being the one to call Sam for help she refused any sort of loan he could give her and only wanted to make the money herself (with his help of course). It's all so stupid
Considering how much useless people like Hillary Clinton get for speaking engagements, I’m sure Sam and the rest of the most famous people in the world would be able to get a simple home loan
Oh. They don't have to do anything to ruin Marvel or Disney as a whole. They just have to sit back and enjoy the glow with smores, reminiscing when this park didn't use childhood dreams and imagination as kindling.
You have to realize that these people were most likely theatre majors. They grew up admire theatre, plays and great actors, most likely they didn't even touch comics so they see these things like how people see the Transformers movies and think that they're going to and think they're adding depth by correlating the Tuskegee Experiment to comic book characters. They're deluded and pretentious because that's what they grew up around, theatre where everyone is acting and no one will ever say no to those in power in fears of their career being destroyed.
Political messaging in Hollywood projects isn't new, but in the old times writers tended to present their case for their ideology. Now most writers just assume they're correct and go from there.
They were always politicized and woke, but the ability of making convincing stories (even with the message) went down drastically. Many movies and shows don't even bother to create a proper character that would present the message in a natural way. They just start repeating word to word the beliefs of the content makers. I can still remember when a lot of people did not know what woke meant. I still remember when most people would never leave bad reviews because the show or movie is woke. And it is very hard to not notice this stuff. It was tripled, then quadrippled. The quality control went down, the politics went up.
The best part about the "one country, one people" is deciding who gets to make the laws. Do USians want to live under Chinese laws? Should Europe force women to cover up because Saudi Arabians wants them to? What about gay rights? Abortion? Voting rights? Or are we going to create legal zones where specific laws are valid? And maybe arrange some local board to oversee that area. It is, after all, hard to create policy from half a world away when you don't know the local conditions.
Give it enough time and Arabs will have taken over enough of the UK to where women will be covered up. The Left leaning women will happily go along with it too.
I’m from Waco Texas. Home of Doris Miller. A black man who served as a cook in the Navy at Pearl Harbor. He won the Medal of Honor for dragging injured sailors out of harms way and manning an anti aircraft gun during the attack. He has been honored locally for years even through the Jim Crow era. He has a monument and statue in the most prominent tourist spot in Waco. I’m not saying we weren’t racist assholes in our fairly recent past. But we weren’t what Hollywood thinks we were.
@presleybaldwin3756 Yes, he was. Some other notable black service men, emphasis on Navy because it's the best branch. Boatswains Mate MCPO Carl Brashear, master diver. (Movie: Men of Honor) Rear Admrial Samuel L. Gravely: First black commanding officer of a U.S. Navy ship (1961). SGTMAJ Gilbert "Hashmark" Johnson. First black Marine Corps drill instructor (1943), 32 years of service between the Army, Navy and Marine Corps. Before his retirement. To act like the U.S. Military hasn't made a monumental effort to recognize minority servicemen from around the end of WWII to today is just ridiculous.
Coven of witches and the smokey demon witch cult leader = Wanda Maximoff Sol = John Walker Torbin = Lemar Mae and Osha = Flag Smashers Venestra = Falcon Acolyte is a microcosm of MCU phase 4 and 5
the Hero journeys we know are based on the Christian Bible The modern hero they know is based on their DEI Bible its why they're all so predictable and predictably bad
@@pascalsimioli6777 The initial hero's journey stories evolved from Beowulf western society took that hero's journey and infused it with Christ's story to create Superman, Star Wars, LotR, etc.
My ONLY arguement is that they’d be WAY too OP. The Don would have Thanos quaking and begging for forgiveness, and John Walker would have the Infinity problem wrapped up in an afternoon. Marvel can’t employ them, man, they’re just too strong.
One of the big issues with the show was that it granted the premise of thanos that snapping half the population would bring abundance. In reality if half the population randomly vanished, there’d be mass starvation and huge resource issues almost everywhere in the universe. Simply the amount of accumulated institutional and particular knowledge that would be lost in an instant would be catastrophic
It rather depends. When who was struck down is random, so are the results. Some areas wouldn't notice, others would virtually be a zombie apocalypse, without the zombies. But it _does_ ignore the fact that the most valuable input for an economy is the labor. And, it turns out, most activities don't scale smoothly; a merchantman already has the smallest crew it can safely operate with. Halve that and you don't get half as many ships carrying cargo; first, you lose a whole lot of ships that suddenly don't have enough people to operate. And now, even assuming you can convince these guys to go back out, you have less than half as many merchant mariners as you did before the blip started. But the point that the actual disappearing people is only the start of the disaster is undoubtedly right. You can only survive on the old world's remnants for so long.
All of history is tied to strong birth rates for humanities survival. The Snap, a reduction of 1/2 all population would decimate society in under 5 yrs. Likely the 1/2 brought back would save everyone, but in all there would be about 3/4ths total world population after. That 5 Years would look like The Road with Viggo Mortensen
@ferrarriohh I think it would be 500 times worse when half of everyone came back We have all our agriculture set up to feed 8 billion people If half of them vanished we'd have a collapse and then hopefully some kind of equilibrium at a level of agriculture for 4 billion people (probably more like 3...) But then another 4 show up, and you have to feed them... but you can't just make that shit happen you need seed stock to sow crops, pastures for cattle, infrastructure to facilitate it all...
@@Tom-s6x6i LMAO! You lived through the covid period, right? Food wouldn't be the problem. US waste so much food every year, it's not even funny. It's the collapse of infra.
They forgot about Sam's line of "Heres something that you or Steve will never understand. But can you accept the fact that i did what i thought was right?" Mentioning Bucky is bad enough but Steve? Something STEVE wouldnt understand about doing whats right? You mean like what his entire fucking character is about????
Bucky should have been a hard contrast to Walker; in Walker being the "good and clean" way to handle issues, and Bucky being the "dark and dirty" way to handle things. Sam should have been torn in the middle, wanting to be more like an idealized Cap, but recignizing that sometims you need to go against everyone to do what is right. Instead we got a film student's idea of a "deep" show.
That's just how Marvel writers are now. In the commentary for Quantumania, the writer implied that saying the word "socialism" counted as political commentary.
The show could've been about Falcon actually feeling like he doesn't deserve the shield at first, but then earning it by the end. But considering how he becomes a terrorist sympathiser by the end, I'd say he definitely doesn't deserve it. Shield should have been confiscated. I can only imagine the levels of deranged mental gymnastics that we're gonna experience in the movie.
I'm from Baltimore, and the idea of cops seeing 2 grown men: a black man and a white man arguing (and about to fight) is the dumbest thing ever. They'd be sitting in their cruiser cracking jokes, and betting on who wins
In 2024, we have - Acolyte: The climax is about a black girl, who got radicalized by a half-Asian guy, ended up murdering her own full-Asian mentor. Then said dead Asian mentor got framed for the murders he didn’t commit to cover up the crimes of the black girl and the half-Asian guy. - Assassin’s Creed: A story of an African samurai (who’s proven to be a fake historical figure fabricated by a white guy to sell his own book) massacreing Japanese people and taking the credit of “transforming Japan” from the actual Japanese leaders at that time. What do these say about Hollywood politics?
Something about the color black, and maybe a word somewhere between "infantilization" and "worship"? Or maybe they're coming around to the spike in black on asian "incidents of violent interaction" over the past several years and deciding to glorify it in media? Truly weird how one extremely successful race in the upper echelons of business and society would encourage a far less successful in comparison race to attack and mob different races that seem to have various cultural values that put them in a position to threaten that extremely successful group up at the top.
Remember how hashtag stopasianhate was gone the second it was found out that it was primarily blacks attacking Asians? It the same thing here, "black on asian, the crime just doesn't exist."
Huh? There's plenty of evidence that Yasuke existed and was most likely a samurai. Where the hell did you hear that he was fake and where did you get that tale from?
I don't mean to be rude but you're misinformed. Evidence of yasuke being anything more than a retainer treated like a clown all points to john locke's book
With the conclusion of Acolyte and looking at shows like Falcon & Winter Solider or Wanda Vision in retrospect it's clear that the average Disney writer cannot portray moral/ethical dilemmas. They have this habit of casting the most morally righteous people as villains and the most villainous as righteous.
People who think Deadpool & Wolverine is going to be the saviour of the MCU need to stop licking windows. “Captain America” is a terrorist sympathiser, She-Hulk is a grapist, Doctor Strange is a multi-time reckless clown, Ironheart killed like several innocent police officers, and so and so forth... This isn’t a franchise for heroes anymore. And the MCU is beyond bonked. Let it die with the very very very little dignity it has left.
Ok, Fringy is my new favorite efap member. His points were great, and i love how not only did everyone else let him cook, they actively tee'ed him up to do so. Hilarious. 😂
This is the clip I referred to in the Wizard debate clip. Fringy does a great job discussing points and bringing some serious considerations into the conversation that Marvel completely ignored.
Guys. Fringy is an absolute BEAST. So much respect for this man. I love the efap crew; Fringy, Mauler, and Rags are perhaps the best Sentai group ever assembled... But this was a Fringy episode.
The thing with The Blip is that it would have caused complete societal collapse. On top of the vanished 4b people, you would have had hundreds of millions of other deaths, imagine the Worlds motorways where half the drivers simply vanish with trucks and cars doing 70mph. Planes would have fallen from the sky, and the response of the emergency services would have been non existent due to losing half their staff and the utter confusion of events. Hospitals would have been overwhelmed and shortly afterwards food and critical supply chains would begin to dry up, leading to a complete break down of law and order. There was probably an interesting trilogy right there.
And thats the day of. Imagine 50% of farmers, engineers, maintenance workers are gone. No industry can survive bacuse the ressources feeding them are jusz not being produced as the people making them are gone.
I like how the push for "diversity and inclusion" just produces the same story. Instead of diverse perspectives we get _one_ perspective -- downtown LA Hollywood progressive. And they can only tell one story. The. Same. Fxxxxng. Story. Over. And. Over.
They can't keep themselves from doing race thing with every black character. I watched the red door movie not long ago. It felt completely lacking politics. Until the boy goes to college, meets a black girl, and there it goes... Evil white racists being extremely racist toward her. The last time I saw in a movie a black character being a racist to a white charac... Never. I have never seen it because hwood does not know that all people can be racists. Anyone living in our reality knows that African-American population in America has such huge problems that those need to be talked about daily if they are ever to be solved. A progressive brain is unable to practical issues, unable to accept truth, but more than happy to live in a self created utopia which is a lie beginning to end.
Remember in avengers when mark ruffalow done that cringe "do I have to kneel" scene just so they can have the guy say that they'd "dont do THAT kind of stuff here" Like bro.... ok... king.
Why is that bad? Characters with more knowledge about a country and its customs pull a friendly prank on a character who was exiled in space for years and is a fish out of water in the context. Not everything is political, stop having brain rot
What makes it stranger but the whole premise of The Incredible Hulk was them trying to make a super soldier serum. So you are telling me with all that blood Ross never used that??
"You just arrive in countries and do what you want" This is even pre she hulk, the accords would still be in play, you've got pre snap people more used to why those were in place to begin and yet...
When you really look at it the plot of falcon and winter soldier sounds like a schizo post. What resources are we even talking? Are they like some sort of currency out of some god simulator game? This show was half baked but the complexity of government operations is one thing you can't complicate. Because so many people watch the irl operations of the government if you show a really poor fictional version of it, you're gonna have a lot of people criticizing it
Swap marvel with literally any popular franchise from the 80s and 90s whose grave has been summarily exhumed in the last decade Its all the same grey sludge
The next level of this is acknowledging Hollywood's primary goal is to produce propoganda through movies. Making those movies especially good is a secondary measure.
The obsession with racism is just a ploy by showrunners to try to force people to like their character or shows. Same with feminism or any other ism. It’s been reduced to a lazy writing tactic instead of actually complex characters and good writing
If this was true, why would they not give up after so many poor shows and movies failing and seeing very obvious rejection to this from viewers? I have it very hard to believe they believe people still like these politiced characters that preach writer/director believes.
@@dontbeorbeevil Using a ploy doesn’t require that the ploy is successful. Besides that, the persistence can be quite easily explained by the fact that the writers are clearly living in echo chambers. If they think that only unreasonable people would dislike the garbage they produce then they would have no desire to improve their work as they would refuse to engage with criticism while presuming that the mindless praise they receive from others ideologues is the only “real” feedback making their work “already perfect” according to their own flock.
Bucky shoulda been cap. He was the man’s best friend, his fighting style would actually be complimented by the shield it would be an actual meaningful characters moment
Thought just occurred: the Multiverse Saga was the perfect point to introduce a Cap Falcon alternate Earth timeline version of Sam as Captain America, with a nanotech suit & super-soldier enhancements. Like how comics has a Loki who has Mjolnir and Thor’s strength. All the best toys, but no imagination of how to play with them.
The snap killed 50% of people but there is nothing to suggest that it was evenly distributed across races,classes,ethnicity,gender, religion, professions, geography or nationality. Hypothetically more doctors could have died proportional to other groups. Imagine what type of effect that would have.
Hilariously, since it was, as Thanos described it, done on purely random basis, there should've been some planets where nobody got snapped just because of sheer number of planets in universe alone - and some planets left completely empty. The same goes for eg. cities and villages on Earth. Or, to a lesser extent due to lower number, countries/territories.
I always saw Walker as a war hero who clearly had PTSD. Who was just wanting to do the right thing .can you imagine what inflation would be like after the blips returnees come back
Frankly Emdgame did a piss poor job of showing what the Earth was like after half its population got snapped much less post Endgame showing the aftermath of everyone coming back. I am sorry but what ten people perhaps aren't enough to run around putting out the fucking wars that would erupt much less the infrastructure issues that would have ensued. Like if China lost half its population it still would have been able to take Tawain and would have. The only way that wouldn't have happened is if most if not all of China got snapped. Depending on how the Koreas population got toasted there would just be one Korea. That is just a couple of geopolitical issues that would crop up. Then there is all the nukes laying around for the taking if the countries who own them got particularly depleted. The world economy would collapse. The idea things were good during the post snap pre- blip period becsuse there was more to go around is fucking laughable. Take the US, literally everything you use was on an eighteen wheeler at some point in its journey to get to you. There already is a shortage of truck drivers and it is a profession that at least according to my dad who is one skews older. Enough of them getting snapped would make the supply chain issues of the pandemic look non- existent. No one would be having more stuff because no one would be getting anything. Which would bring on even more societal collapse and make the problem worse. Then there is the issue of how many people actually know how to run large scale farming to grow food for people. People in developed countries in this day and age know very little about farming. They at best grow oversized gardens because locally grown food is better. I am not shitting on that but there is a difference between that and well large scale farms with the idea of the food going to people who generally don't farm for themselves. The what five years or so between Infinity War and Endgame is not enough time to get a handle on things for them to be stable much less good.
I always say this, but Phase 4 should've been 3 things: 1. A grounded Secret Invasion themed set of stories. Black Widow prequel introducing Skrulls infesting the Red Room. F&WS as a Super-Soldier/Skrull based series w/Bucky, Yelena & Sam trying to stop a cell of Skrulls from creating Super-Skrulls. Lay all the foundation for Thunderbolts, finish with a 'Secret Warriors' concept team for the New Avengers roster. 2. Finishing off loose ends & sequels, keep those Cosmic/off-world, like GotG V3 and Captain Marvel 2 as a Kree-Skrull War 'Star Trek' style film. 3. Endcap Phase 4 WITH Fantastic Four. F4 are the MOST Skrull Empire tied characters, tees up a perfect movie to have Reed, Sue, Ben, & Johnny where they could really come back to help eradicate the invasion, and they blew that huge opportunity... for the sake of Antman Quantumania.
34:20 Fringy is reminding me of the the first 8 minutes of Krauts Mexico video, there's this town called Nogales that got split in half by the US/Mexico border and because of the state institutions and governance of each country the American half of Nogales is much richer and safer than the Mexican half. These flag smasher guys just going "delete all the borders" aren't accounting for the fact that institutional corruption, differing political leadership and ideology, economic inequality, organised crime, and a trillion other issues don't just instantly disappear. Its not as if the EU magically appeared overnight, it took DECADES of treaties and negotiations and economic change to get it into the shape it is now, and many people don't even see it as a completed thing yet. ruclips.net/video/SPs6tjXsf7M/видео.html
I was super excited when I heard they were gonna make this show. Just to find out how racist and hypocritical and stupid these people were. This show has a special place in my heart for how awful it is.
Honestly the crisis of the Blip spunds like it would need to be it's own series while Falcon should have been aother that could make appearances in it. There are so many different people from all different walks of life that were brought back with their entire world ripped from them after what must have been a few seconds of panic when turning to dust then they all feel as if the were sent to the future rather than actually being gone for so long. What if a man with kids and a wife reappears along with one of his kids that also got blipped? What if his wife died in either some crossfire in the chaos or remarried another guy and bow she has a whole new family when he felt like he was gone for 5 seconds? What is he supposed to do? It isn't fair to either of them to expect him to just deal with it and move on, nor is it fair for her to just leave her new husband and kids. People lost homes, family, jobs, money, etc. Not to mention there is probably some prisons that got overrun in a riot if most of the guards got blipped and is probably now just a homeless camp. What the hell is everyone going to do? Also would there be some people who wished that rhose who were blipped just never came back and now they hate the Avengers for not only failing to stop the Blip in the first place but now also caused all this chaos after bringing half the population (of 5 years ago) back? There has to be some people who are thinking rhat way. This would have been much more entertaining if it was about different people dealing with the aftermath of the blipped returning and wasn't social commentary from people who have no idea how governments, supply chains, borders or human nature works.
"Hollywood" is also ruining regional cultures & dialects around the world. Notice how everything from Hollywood is spoken in a very generic Midwest American accent or else a very stereotypical accent? Even their foreign dialects are very stereotypical, bordering on comical. Americans all across the nation are losing their identities and adopting "Californian speech" to the point that parts of the South no longer have that charming Southern accent (Austin, Texas is an excellent example). Even shows set in the South have generic accents. Some parts of the UK are now starting to adopt Americanisms.
They brought back Black panther, but the actor died and they killed the character off anyways. They brought back Spider-Man only to continue to not own the rights to the character. Wanda returned only to become evil. On and on, if they just did not blip anyone back but rather Tony sacrificing himself to save the rest of humanity from Thanos, the BLIP complications would not exist.
The world would have been tossed into chaos and mourning with half the doctors, farmers, soldiers, cops, ect, just gone. Skills, jobs, and knowledge is NOT even distributed among a population so losing half of one is devastating. Children with no parents or caregivers just gone creating even more death and disasters. Then five years later billions of soon to be traumatized people ( because their loved ones are suddenly older or died ) are dumped into the world with already traumatized people. Thanos was a fool thinking eliminating half the people would solve anything. If anything a snap would probably eliminate two thirds of the people. It should have been a bigger deal in the movies and shows but nobody thought long term story wise. It was stupid to end a otherwise great series.
The show expects you to think that John Walker is an irredeemable monster while sympathizing with murderers. Ironically, Walker is up there with Spider-Man: No Way Home and Guardians 3 as the best part of the MCU post-Endgame. I'm calling it right now. Thunderbolts is Black Widow 2 under a different name. It's essentially The Yelena Belova Movie. John Walker will upstage her big time.
so did shield know where lamar was this whole time? if so, why did they never just have a sniper take him out at some point during all those years they were controlled by hydra?
"they erased every last scrap of me from history, that's why you've not heard of me." My dude they couldn't even erase every last scrap of Hatshepsut from history.
They forgot to mention that the entire catastrophe known as "the blip" only exists because of the completely contrived plotline of Tony Stark's post-snap daughter. Then he dies anyway. Avengers Endgame was such a complete disaster of an ending.
These guys have grown to be some of my favorite people on RUclips, simply because they say what they actually think is the truth. that should say something.
It sucks that they failed to create a decent plot of the post snap world. They should've had a few movies and TV shows in between Infinity War and Endgame that would've introduced how remaining Avengers and citizens held everything together after the snap. They should've also introduced new heroes that could've fought with them in Endgame. What better origin story than the Snap and the events and disasters that followed? Having the old heroes react to the new heroes after Endgame would've been great for character building and drama afterward. Especially some that built their identities off of others.
There REALLY should've been a Phase 2.5 dealing with the snap. Give us 5-6 years of street-level heroes picking up the pieces and give it a more individualist angle to the snap. Hell, bring in some minor villains that are deadlier due to less resistance to them.
I was checked out when i heard this new "Cap" movie was coming out. Then i heard Gus Fring was in it then it kinda checked me back in, barely. So i started brainstorming on who it could be, might be cool. Looked it up... its Norman Osborn, returning for his 20th movie.
It's strange that some of the The Falcon And The Winter Soldier characters are similar to the Star Wars Acolyte characters, for example: John Walker and Bucky equals Master Sol and Mae Aniseya and Cult lesbian space witches equals Karli Morgenthau Ginger girl
The idiots who tried to write around the impact of the blip do not understand anything. There wouldn't be less food, there would be more because less people are around to need it. Livestock would take an initial hit but would recover within the year. There wouldn't be less resources.... there would be more so things would cost less because less demand. There wouldn't be a collapsed economy/hardship - It would be thriving as there is less bloat and deadweight with tons of jobs for the survivors. People wouldn't be hoarding resources because there would be metric fk-tons of resources with not enough people for them. There might be wars as people try and land grab up control of resources... but that's a political power vacuum.
Disney essentially wrote a Jan 6th scenario 2 years before it and tried to justify it when the only thing that stopped it was basically a super cop this defending cops too.
This show had a lot of potential but was ultimately ruined by writers and directors pushing a message and ignoring any sort of logic or reason ruining characters that we liked and making a character we were supposed to hate someone we sympathize with and feel bad for😂
People living rich privileged lives in sunny California, buying $9 coffees have no clue how to write down to earth grounded stories about loss or how people need to “do better”
Are you surprised???
As someone who was born and raised in a farm town, but lived in LA for almost a decade.....
You have no idea. Those fucking people, man
They can, they just need empathy.
Unfortunately they rarely do.
Facts
It's an unwritten rule here in California that everybody is a struggling underdog contrary to your income. I know tech engineers who make 250k a year and have made smart investments making them millionaires before the age of 32. They would often talk shit on big big corporations and capitalism being bad while comparing themselves to fast food workers and claiming to be below middle class people.
The underdogs are typically the good guys. The rich and privileged are typically the bad guys. A rich Californian will pretend to be an underdog.
"How dare they just sit on resources" written by a Hollywood writer who's never known living paycheck to paycheck, yet wants a city to
To be fair, Falcon and the Winter Soldier was written by an absolute nobody, so he may actually have experience with that. Of course, that just begs the question why an absolute nobody had total creative control over this show.
Imagine 50% of our infrastructure employees snapped out of existence. Good luck picking up that mess.
It would heavily suck but where there’s demand there can be supply.
Sounds like a good time to raise rates if you’re skilled.
Up your rates? Sure. And then everyone else does as well and you're directly stuck at where you were
And you'll be getting your hardware from where exactly? Your suppliers are dealing with the same issues. And their suppliers.
Kinda hard to be an electrician when you can't get new wire. Or an HVAC installer when the filters run out.
@@guyincognito1406no, that's not how it would work. Groceries sitting in in trucks, if they make it to the store, someone has to pull the pallets off and then put them on the shelves, no obviously that's not skilled labor but it's necessary
Modern electronics are dependent on about a dozen people who know how to correctly mine a specific kind of quartz in the Appalachian mountains. There are a dozen or so more people who know how to make the precursors to the rest of the electronics production supply chain. At best technology just stops progressing. What's more likely is catastrophic collapse of industry and the remaining population in the following years. Even with someone like Tony Stark and Wakanda, only about 10% of the Snap survivors would be around when it was reversed. Thanos killed >95% of industrialized populations. Earth wouldn't have the same countries.
Snap 50% of equipment maintenance and logistics guys…it’s over
They completely forgot that the MCU WW2 army wasn’t segregated and that, that would've had knock on effects for the rest of the MCU history. Time and again they have shown integrated multi ethnic societies getting along throughout their history hell even the Norse Gods are diverse so this all of a sudden everything was actually racist stuff doesn’t work with the world they created and the stories they told. In fact, the only people shown to hold racist prejudices in the MCU were the Wakandans.
I never thought about this, but it is actually a hilarious interpretation. They created a world where the only racists come from the African super nation. Incredible, 10/10 planning.
Pretty based tbh😂 my parents are Moroccan and western liberals think black Africans are so kind & welcoming. Furthest thing from the truth lol
Worldbuilding is hard for MCU writers, we had anti-grav technology in 1942 as seen in the first Captain America but in modern day MCU (Avengers, all the Iron Man, Black Widow and a lot more) apparently that technology just fell apart somewhere.
Bro said “actually the black people were racist” just because it’s not in any of the previous movies doesn’t mean it didn’t exist
@@xcape4734 I agree, just because somethings not shown doesn’t mean it's not there. However, when the opposite is constantly being shown as true, that does mean it isn’t there. Or at least it’s certainly not there in the low-resolution way they presented it in this show. You can have it one way or the other and trying to have both is just bad world building.
I find it interesting how they treat Bucky like a total villain for being imprisoned and brainwashed for 70 years but Lamar is treated completely differently despite being imprisoned by the government for 30 years and doing missions for the US government.
What a weird way to write a show and a character conflict. Shouldn’t Bucky and Lamar have some comradere over their similar experiences?
It would have been more interesting if the dynamics were Lamar and Bucky (the government can be evil) vs Falcon and John Walker (the government can be good). With the Flag smashers being the “burn it all down for fun” evil joker faction they have to come together to defeat.
Lamar?
@@ascended1924 Kendrick Lamar
I think he means Isaiah.
Isaiah you mean. Lamar got disrespected harder than anyone in the show ironically.
Do you mean Isaiah?
Marvel missed an easy opportunity to introduce Dr Doom with the blip.
They could talk about how the borders are all fucked and entirely new countries have risen up like Latvaria. Mention that Dr Doom founded a nation during the chaos and confusion and make that be a part of the challenge without actually making him appear on screen.
Fans would go nuts for it and it would totally make sense, it could also set up Doom for future projects like an avengers movie.
Could have been that Latvaria was always there, but not a major player on the world's stage. Doom may have been quietly stockpiling for years, then after the blip he's a tiny country with vast resources that other nearby countries need. Not to mention his unique tech. Doombots would be extremely useful in a world with a shortage of labor. Most importantly, he would provide the type of "do better" leadership that this show is asking for. Dictators tend to get stuff done without much red tape. He could be absorbing entire countries and never fire a single shot.
@@JoeSyxpack Just have the neighboring nations lose more population, while Latvaria lost almost no one. Suddenly they're the big nation in the area, with a military that isn't half dust; instant empire. There's no reason to think the blip would hit every nation identically.
John Walker did nothing wrong.
Him and poe dameron should get a drink together. I blew up the drednaught, saved everyone and called out holdo, but IM the bad guy??
@@DrViperVideos Sol just comes in, takes a seat, and just sighs. And then Jacob Kane as a bartender says “first time?”. Sol nods, and as a response Jacob says “trust me, it could’ve be worse”. Sol then says “is that right”, Jacob then subtlety nods over to Jon Snow whispering “muh queen, muh queen…”.
I'd say he did one definitive thing wrong.
Namely, going "off the books" to go after Bucky/Falcon when they went to find Zemo and hunt down the Smashers. There's no harm to calling it in and getting GRC backup/approval for that sort of operation, cause Zemo's an escaped felon and the Smashers are terrorists. Ofc they'd get sanction for it and things might've turned out much better with official sanction plus backup on the goodies' team.
The idea that the military fired Captain America for killing a terrorist is insane.
Yes he did. He made the wrong choice of being in this show because he deserved so much more.
This show was written by people who think milk comes from the grocery store.
There's actually an ad in my country where a literal child says that "peas come from the freezer"
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The ramifications of the blip never being discussed appropriately has been one of the biggest mistakes.
... And it also happen to be my only joy in life.
If it got a movie, it would have been a story of famine, destitution and just suffering in general, best case scenario a Schindler's List on steroids, not exactly their forte.
The blip should have been the catalyst for everything happening for the next 3 phases. It could justify things like DR. Doom taking power, hydra reforming, skrull infultration etc.
I dont know how they even discuss it appropriately without spending at least a show or movie discussing all the ramifications and complete changes made to the entire world let alone the universe. It was an idiotic event to add in to begin with. It’s just so unbelievable that society itself would be upended
@@spendsshanks6050 yes please a semi post apocalyptic political thriller with people fighting over resources and shooting each other over land claims since returning from the blip while the avengers and what's left of the government try to hold it all together. Meanwhile villains like doom are taking advantage and consolidating power such as conquering parts of eastern Europe and renaming it Latvaria offering the returned and now displaced victims of the blip homes and resources so long as they bend the knee. That would be an awesome political thriller.
The fact that writers had Sam unable to get a loan or make money as Falcon when he’d be the most famous person in Louisiana is ridiculous. Dude would be asked by everybody in the state to make an appearance, including Southern and Grambling State, the two black colleges in the state.
Sam JUST fucking executed a super high risk mission for the US Military rescuing a high value asset that NOBODY else could have done without massively more resources and losses being expended, and he did it solo.
HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN PAID FOR THAT!
Do they not know the US Military budget? HE COULD LITERALLY BUY A NEW FUCKING BOAT AFTER THAT ONE MISSION! Easily!
He could fucking pay Pimp My Ride to trick out his boat with fucking spinning feather rims.
Sam could do ONE fucking birthday party for like some millionaire's kid and have more than enough money to fix his fucking boat.
The poor superhero angle STOPS WORKING when the hero goes public. It works with Spider-Man because he's a kid with a secret identity juggling his public and private lives, but when he gets like signed on with SHIELD or the Avengers or whoever, they don't just tell him to do shit for them and NOT pay him. He gets MORE resources after teaming up.
SAM IS A SOLIDER AND WAS ALWAYS PUBLICLY FALCON! Even if when he was Snapped back to life, he started literally DIRT poor, he'd be a millionaire by the end of the week!
But Disney thinks nobody wants to give a black man money for any reason apparently! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!? How is writing this bad!? And how is the Acolyte worse!?
@@haku8135 If he's executing that mission as a member of the armed forces, then he gets standard scale with a combat bonus and the like. If he's operating as an outside contractor, it raises questions about why the military seems to be paying for/supplying/maintaining his snazzy gear. Being a soldier doesn't make you rich, not even an officer, although by the time you hit flag rank there are opportunities for graft.
None of which changes the fact that he's a public superhero, and the MCU heroes don't seem to grow themselves rogues galleries, which makes being public far less risky to the people around the hero. Which is to say Sam's clients don't have to worry about the Wizard or the Vulture hitting their business because Sam cut an ad for them.
Do they shoot drice at Grambling?
@@haku8135 He did get paid for that, but his sister is a stubborn brat and didn't want any support until she could properly get back on her feet herself. Despite being the one to call Sam for help she refused any sort of loan he could give her and only wanted to make the money herself (with his help of course). It's all so stupid
Considering how much useless people like Hillary Clinton get for speaking engagements, I’m sure Sam and the rest of the most famous people in the world would be able to get a simple home loan
Ruining marvel is the only joy they have in life.
We as fans need to start doing something about it.
Now now. Ruining Lucasfilm properties is quite the passion of theirs too
Oh. They don't have to do anything to ruin Marvel or Disney as a whole. They just have to sit back and enjoy the glow with smores, reminiscing when this park didn't use childhood dreams and imagination as kindling.
You have to realize that these people were most likely theatre majors. They grew up admire theatre, plays and great actors, most likely they didn't even touch comics so they see these things like how people see the Transformers movies and think that they're going to and think they're adding depth by correlating the Tuskegee Experiment to comic book characters. They're deluded and pretentious because that's what they grew up around, theatre where everyone is acting and no one will ever say no to those in power in fears of their career being destroyed.
@@milkman6218 What's the Tuskegee Experiment?
Political messaging in Hollywood projects isn't new, but in the old times writers tended to present their case for their ideology. Now most writers just assume they're correct and go from there.
They were always politicized and woke, but the ability of making convincing stories (even with the message) went down drastically.
Many movies and shows don't even bother to create a proper character that would present the message in a natural way. They just start repeating word to word the beliefs of the content makers.
I can still remember when a lot of people did not know what woke meant. I still remember when most people would never leave bad reviews because the show or movie is woke.
And it is very hard to not notice this stuff. It was tripled, then quadrippled.
The quality control went down, the politics went up.
The best part about the "one country, one people" is deciding who gets to make the laws. Do USians want to live under Chinese laws? Should Europe force women to cover up because Saudi Arabians wants them to? What about gay rights? Abortion? Voting rights?
Or are we going to create legal zones where specific laws are valid? And maybe arrange some local board to oversee that area. It is, after all, hard to create policy from half a world away when you don't know the local conditions.
Give it enough time and Arabs will have taken over enough of the UK to where women will be covered up. The Left leaning women will happily go along with it too.
And if you do create 'legal zones,' how does that differ from nation states?
I’m from Waco Texas. Home of Doris Miller. A black man who served as a cook in the Navy at Pearl Harbor. He won the Medal of Honor for dragging injured sailors out of harms way and manning an anti aircraft gun during the attack. He has been honored locally for years even through the Jim Crow era. He has a monument and statue in the most prominent tourist spot in Waco.
I’m not saying we weren’t racist assholes in our fairly recent past. But we weren’t what Hollywood thinks we were.
Wonder how many Leftists will try and tear down his statue.
He even has an Aircraft Carrier being named after him, one of the highest honors one can get in the Navy.
He's a badass.
@presleybaldwin3756 Yes, he was. Some other notable black service men, emphasis on Navy because it's the best branch. Boatswains Mate MCPO Carl Brashear, master diver. (Movie: Men of Honor) Rear Admrial Samuel L. Gravely: First black commanding officer of a U.S. Navy ship (1961). SGTMAJ Gilbert "Hashmark" Johnson. First black Marine Corps drill instructor (1943), 32 years of service between the Army, Navy and Marine Corps. Before his retirement. To act like the U.S. Military hasn't made a monumental effort to recognize minority servicemen from around the end of WWII to today is just ridiculous.
Hey look you can’t expect the people of Hollywood to know about the world or even their own country. They can’t even eat glue properly.
Coven of witches and the smokey demon witch cult leader = Wanda Maximoff
Sol = John Walker
Torbin = Lemar
Mae and Osha = Flag Smashers
Venestra = Falcon
Acolyte is a microcosm of MCU phase 4 and 5
I'm both impressed and kinda sad you can make that comparison (i.e. you actually watched The Acolyte).
the Hero journeys we know are based on the Christian Bible
The modern hero they know is based on their DEI Bible
its why they're all so predictable and predictably bad
@@MrLavajetor the Efap coverage of it.
@darthbiscuit where do you get that from? Any source about the hero's journey saying that?
@@pascalsimioli6777 The initial hero's journey stories evolved from Beowulf
western society took that hero's journey and infused it with Christ's story to create Superman, Star Wars, LotR, etc.
22:40 “worlds without borders!”
Boy let me tell you about the migrant issues in the EU…
A hypothetical Walker & The Don teamup >>>>> Deadpool & Wolverine. Change my mind
My ONLY arguement is that they’d be WAY too OP. The Don would have Thanos quaking and begging for forgiveness, and John Walker would have the Infinity problem wrapped up in an afternoon.
Marvel can’t employ them, man, they’re just too strong.
Bro, why are you guys treating Marvel like this? THEY ARE NOT USED TO THIS LEVEL OF SCRUTINY.
One of the big issues with the show was that it granted the premise of thanos that snapping half the population would bring abundance. In reality if half the population randomly vanished, there’d be mass starvation and huge resource issues almost everywhere in the universe. Simply the amount of accumulated institutional and particular knowledge that would be lost in an instant would be catastrophic
Crowdstrike level stuff everyday since most people barely have any idea how computers work.
It rather depends. When who was struck down is random, so are the results. Some areas wouldn't notice, others would virtually be a zombie apocalypse, without the zombies.
But it _does_ ignore the fact that the most valuable input for an economy is the labor. And, it turns out, most activities don't scale smoothly; a merchantman already has the smallest crew it can safely operate with. Halve that and you don't get half as many ships carrying cargo; first, you lose a whole lot of ships that suddenly don't have enough people to operate. And now, even assuming you can convince these guys to go back out, you have less than half as many merchant mariners as you did before the blip started.
But the point that the actual disappearing people is only the start of the disaster is undoubtedly right. You can only survive on the old world's remnants for so long.
All of history is tied to strong birth rates for humanities survival. The Snap, a reduction of 1/2 all population would decimate society in under 5 yrs. Likely the 1/2 brought back would save everyone, but in all there would be about 3/4ths total world population after.
That 5 Years would look like The Road with Viggo Mortensen
@ferrarriohh I think it would be 500 times worse when half of everyone came back
We have all our agriculture set up to feed 8 billion people
If half of them vanished we'd have a collapse and then hopefully some kind of equilibrium at a level of agriculture for 4 billion people (probably more like 3...)
But then another 4 show up, and you have to feed them... but you can't just make that shit happen you need seed stock to sow crops, pastures for cattle, infrastructure to facilitate it all...
@@Tom-s6x6i LMAO! You lived through the covid period, right? Food wouldn't be the problem. US waste so much food every year, it's not even funny. It's the collapse of infra.
This really should've been called "Fringy Destroys Marvel with Facts and Logic!"
Yeah calling this show "political messaging" is insulting to the concept of a fully formed message, Fringy crushed it
I heard a senator in a hearing the other day tell someone "you need to do better" it was glorious.
They forgot about Sam's line of "Heres something that you or Steve will never understand. But can you accept the fact that i did what i thought was right?" Mentioning Bucky is bad enough but Steve? Something STEVE wouldnt understand about doing whats right? You mean like what his entire fucking character is about????
Marvel kinda forgot that Steve was chosen to be Cap because he’s a good man, not because he’s white.
@@nont18411 And I'd like to think that that was the reason why Steve chose Sam. But this show spits in the face of all of that........
*Radio crackle* "Dispatch, we have a black man being loud in the street. Requesting air support, over
Bucky should have been a hard contrast to Walker; in Walker being the "good and clean" way to handle issues, and Bucky being the "dark and dirty" way to handle things. Sam should have been torn in the middle, wanting to be more like an idealized Cap, but recignizing that sometims you need to go against everyone to do what is right. Instead we got a film student's idea of a "deep" show.
That's just how Marvel writers are now. In the commentary for Quantumania, the writer implied that saying the word "socialism" counted as political commentary.
Walker is a sociopath in the comics. If the show made him a sociopath then him not being worthy would have been logical.
@@petermj1098 thats a great point. Shame the writers didn't seem to be fans of the comics.
God dammit that sounds so interesting.
The show could've been about Falcon actually feeling like he doesn't deserve the shield at first, but then earning it by the end.
But considering how he becomes a terrorist sympathiser by the end, I'd say he definitely doesn't deserve it. Shield should have been confiscated.
I can only imagine the levels of deranged mental gymnastics that we're gonna experience in the movie.
I remember some reactors saying they were proud of Disney when that cop car showed up
I'm from Baltimore, and the idea of cops seeing 2 grown men: a black man and a white man arguing (and about to fight) is the dumbest thing ever.
They'd be sitting in their cruiser cracking jokes, and betting on who wins
In 2024, we have
- Acolyte: The climax is about a black girl, who got radicalized by a half-Asian guy, ended up murdering her own full-Asian mentor. Then said dead Asian mentor got framed for the murders he didn’t commit to cover up the crimes of the black girl and the half-Asian guy.
- Assassin’s Creed: A story of an African samurai (who’s proven to be a fake historical figure fabricated by a white guy to sell his own book) massacreing Japanese people and taking the credit of “transforming Japan” from the actual Japanese leaders at that time.
What do these say about Hollywood politics?
Something about the color black, and maybe a word somewhere between "infantilization" and "worship"? Or maybe they're coming around to the spike in black on asian "incidents of violent interaction" over the past several years and deciding to glorify it in media? Truly weird how one extremely successful race in the upper echelons of business and society would encourage a far less successful in comparison race to attack and mob different races that seem to have various cultural values that put them in a position to threaten that extremely successful group up at the top.
Remember how hashtag stopasianhate was gone the second it was found out that it was primarily blacks attacking Asians? It the same thing here, "black on asian, the crime just doesn't exist."
Huh? There's plenty of evidence that Yasuke existed and was most likely a samurai. Where the hell did you hear that he was fake and where did you get that tale from?
@@durrnip there isn't, at best he was a weapons carrier, at worst a pet
I don't mean to be rude but you're misinformed. Evidence of yasuke being anything more than a retainer treated like a clown all points to john locke's book
With the conclusion of Acolyte and looking at shows like Falcon & Winter Solider or Wanda Vision in retrospect it's clear that the average Disney writer cannot portray moral/ethical dilemmas. They have this habit of casting the most morally righteous people as villains and the most villainous as righteous.
Almost like they subconsciously associate themselves with one of these categories.
People who think Deadpool & Wolverine is going to be the saviour of the MCU need to stop licking windows.
“Captain America” is a terrorist sympathiser, She-Hulk is a grapist, Doctor Strange is a multi-time reckless clown, Ironheart killed like several innocent police officers, and so and so forth... This isn’t a franchise for heroes anymore. And the MCU is beyond bonked.
Let it die with the very very very little dignity it has left.
@@ShouldYouChooseToAccept I agree. We need to just stop making MCU stuff and fix the comics.
@@TheBackseater
I mean…how? I haven’t bought a comic since they did the whole Safespace and Snowflake bullshit
@@TheBackseaterthe comics are a lost cause mate.
Endgame was the end. No way home, guardians 3 and ehh i guess you could put deadpool & wolverine in there too, they are the epilouges
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access We as fans need to go to Marvel and take control ourselves
Ok, Fringy is my new favorite efap member. His points were great, and i love how not only did everyone else let him cook, they actively tee'ed him up to do so. Hilarious. 😂
This is the clip I referred to in the Wizard debate clip. Fringy does a great job discussing points and bringing some serious considerations into the conversation that Marvel completely ignored.
Guys. Fringy is an absolute BEAST. So much respect for this man. I love the efap crew; Fringy, Mauler, and Rags are perhaps the best Sentai group ever assembled... But this was a Fringy episode.
I hate politics
Cringe
This whole channel is politics you realize that right
Gabe Jones (a black man) was a member of the Howling Commandos in The First Avenger, BTW.
7:43 yes, and that black superhero’s name was Blade
The thing with The Blip is that it would have caused complete societal collapse. On top of the vanished 4b people, you would have had hundreds of millions of other deaths, imagine the Worlds motorways where half the drivers simply vanish with trucks and cars doing 70mph. Planes would have fallen from the sky, and the response of the emergency services would have been non existent due to losing half their staff and the utter confusion of events. Hospitals would have been overwhelmed and shortly afterwards food and critical supply chains would begin to dry up, leading to a complete break down of law and order.
There was probably an interesting trilogy right there.
And thats the day of. Imagine 50% of farmers, engineers, maintenance workers are gone. No industry can survive bacuse the ressources feeding them are jusz not being produced as the people making them are gone.
I like how the push for "diversity and inclusion" just produces the same story. Instead of diverse perspectives we get _one_ perspective -- downtown LA Hollywood progressive. And they can only tell one story.
The. Same. Fxxxxng. Story. Over. And. Over.
The moment the cop scene started, I checked out of the show. Apparently a report was released that a lot of people did the same.
They can't keep themselves from doing race thing with every black character.
I watched the red door movie not long ago. It felt completely lacking politics.
Until the boy goes to college, meets a black girl, and there it goes...
Evil white racists being extremely racist toward her.
The last time I saw in a movie a black character being a racist to a white charac...
Never. I have never seen it because hwood does not know that all people can be racists.
Anyone living in our reality knows that African-American population in America has such huge problems
that those need to be talked about daily if they are ever to be solved.
A progressive brain is unable to practical issues, unable to accept truth,
but more than happy to live in a self created utopia which is a lie beginning to end.
I'll ONLY watch it if it features Walker, the ONLY good character that came out of phase 4
@@joaocarvalho6336 John Walker in this show isn't John Walker from the comics.
@@TheBackseater
No one cares, really
@@TheBackseaterwho gives a shit
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Accessthe problem is that they clearly hate him, so him showing up would probably mean having him humiliated
Remember in avengers when mark ruffalow done that cringe "do I have to kneel" scene just so they can have the guy say that they'd "dont do THAT kind of stuff here"
Like bro.... ok... king.
Didn't feel like that was a race thing. Felt like a more fun misunderstanding of protocol.
Why is that bad? Characters with more knowledge about a country and its customs pull a friendly prank on a character who was exiled in space for years and is a fish out of water in the context. Not everything is political, stop having brain rot
Yeah. But, yk, some people.....@@chimeratheo1855
I thought it was a reference to the BLM kneeling thing.
What you people hate that joke? That had nothing to do with race either
What makes it stranger but the whole premise of The Incredible Hulk was them trying to make a super soldier serum. So you are telling me with all that blood Ross never used that??
Marvel has a serious case of protein in urine.
"You just arrive in countries and do what you want"
This is even pre she hulk, the accords would still be in play, you've got pre snap people more used to why those were in place to begin and yet...
They also seem to have forgotten the serum alone wasn't enough, they also bombarded Steve with intense gamma radiation.
When you really look at it the plot of falcon and winter soldier sounds like a schizo post. What resources are we even talking? Are they like some sort of currency out of some god simulator game? This show was half baked but the complexity of government operations is one thing you can't complicate. Because so many people watch the irl operations of the government if you show a really poor fictional version of it, you're gonna have a lot of people criticizing it
Swap marvel with literally any popular franchise from the 80s and 90s whose grave has been summarily exhumed in the last decade
Its all the same grey sludge
The next level of this is acknowledging Hollywood's primary goal is to produce propoganda through movies. Making those movies especially good is a secondary measure.
The obsession with racism is just a ploy by showrunners to try to force people to like their character or shows. Same with feminism or any other ism. It’s been reduced to a lazy writing tactic instead of actually complex characters and good writing
If this was true, why would they not give up after so many poor shows and movies failing and seeing very obvious rejection to this from viewers? I have it very hard to believe they believe people still like these politiced characters that preach writer/director believes.
@@dontbeorbeevil Using a ploy doesn’t require that the ploy is successful. Besides that, the persistence can be quite easily explained by the fact that the writers are clearly living in echo chambers. If they think that only unreasonable people would dislike the garbage they produce then they would have no desire to improve their work as they would refuse to engage with criticism while presuming that the mindless praise they receive from others ideologues is the only “real” feedback making their work “already perfect” according to their own flock.
Bucky shoulda been cap. He was the man’s best friend, his fighting style would actually be complimented by the shield it would be an actual meaningful characters moment
Walker should be cap.
Thought just occurred: the Multiverse Saga was the perfect point to introduce a Cap Falcon alternate Earth timeline version of Sam as Captain America, with a nanotech suit & super-soldier enhancements. Like how comics has a Loki who has Mjolnir and Thor’s strength.
All the best toys, but no imagination of how to play with them.
The snap killed 50% of people but there is nothing to suggest that it was evenly distributed across races,classes,ethnicity,gender, religion, professions, geography or nationality. Hypothetically more doctors could have died proportional to other groups. Imagine what type of effect that would have.
Hilariously, since it was, as Thanos described it, done on purely random basis, there should've been some planets where nobody got snapped just because of sheer number of planets in universe alone - and some planets left completely empty.
The same goes for eg. cities and villages on Earth. Or, to a lesser extent due to lower number, countries/territories.
Hollywood politics is marvel
For a long time it wasn't. Not back in the Lee/Thomas days
Oh no it’s this show.
“This video is a sword like a weapon”
Go drink your soy somewhere else mah bohy
Same, that's my reaction to pretty much all Disney film projects these days.
Wow, I forgot how completely pants-on-head regarded that show was.
I always saw Walker as a war hero who clearly had PTSD. Who was just wanting to do the right thing .can you imagine what inflation would be like after the blips returnees come back
Frankly Emdgame did a piss poor job of showing what the Earth was like after half its population got snapped much less post Endgame showing the aftermath of everyone coming back. I am sorry but what ten people perhaps aren't enough to run around putting out the fucking wars that would erupt much less the infrastructure issues that would have ensued. Like if China lost half its population it still would have been able to take Tawain and would have. The only way that wouldn't have happened is if most if not all of China got snapped. Depending on how the Koreas population got toasted there would just be one Korea. That is just a couple of geopolitical issues that would crop up. Then there is all the nukes laying around for the taking if the countries who own them got particularly depleted. The world economy would collapse. The idea things were good during the post snap pre- blip period becsuse there was more to go around is fucking laughable. Take the US, literally everything you use was on an eighteen wheeler at some point in its journey to get to you. There already is a shortage of truck drivers and it is a profession that at least according to my dad who is one skews older. Enough of them getting snapped would make the supply chain issues of the pandemic look non- existent. No one would be having more stuff because no one would be getting anything. Which would bring on even more societal collapse and make the problem worse. Then there is the issue of how many people actually know how to run large scale farming to grow food for people. People in developed countries in this day and age know very little about farming. They at best grow oversized gardens because locally grown food is better. I am not shitting on that but there is a difference between that and well large scale farms with the idea of the food going to people who generally don't farm for themselves. The what five years or so between Infinity War and Endgame is not enough time to get a handle on things for them to be stable much less good.
You raysis. We wuz super soldiers.
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@@endeavourforpeace No dog whistle. I openly admit it.
@@TheLeadhound 😆admit what?
@@endeavourforpeace I am a racist.
So Bucky never told Steve about this either
Go away Kamala.
I always say this, but Phase 4 should've been 3 things:
1. A grounded Secret Invasion themed set of stories. Black Widow prequel introducing Skrulls infesting the Red Room. F&WS as a Super-Soldier/Skrull based series w/Bucky, Yelena & Sam trying to stop a cell of Skrulls from creating Super-Skrulls. Lay all the foundation for Thunderbolts, finish with a 'Secret Warriors' concept team for the New Avengers roster.
2. Finishing off loose ends & sequels, keep those Cosmic/off-world, like GotG V3 and Captain Marvel 2 as a Kree-Skrull War 'Star Trek' style film.
3. Endcap Phase 4 WITH Fantastic Four. F4 are the MOST Skrull Empire tied characters, tees up a perfect movie to have Reed, Sue, Ben, & Johnny where they could really come back to help eradicate the invasion, and they blew that huge opportunity... for the sake of Antman Quantumania.
Only the Don can save us from this
Captain America (previously Black falcon): "I don't know what I'm talking about senator, just do better!"
34:20 Fringy is reminding me of the the first 8 minutes of Krauts Mexico video, there's this town called Nogales that got split in half by the US/Mexico border and because of the state institutions and governance of each country the American half of Nogales is much richer and safer than the Mexican half. These flag smasher guys just going "delete all the borders" aren't accounting for the fact that institutional corruption, differing political leadership and ideology, economic inequality, organised crime, and a trillion other issues don't just instantly disappear. Its not as if the EU magically appeared overnight, it took DECADES of treaties and negotiations and economic change to get it into the shape it is now, and many people don't even see it as a completed thing yet.
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This was a classic EFAP, so good. And JLongBone going off is always fun
I was super excited when I heard they were gonna make this show. Just to find out how racist and hypocritical and stupid these people were. This show has a special place in my heart for how awful it is.
Why did the story they wanted to tell after The Blip in Endgame was about racism? Weren't there be bigger issues?
It….it wasn’t
It was an aspect of the story involving Sam personally but it wasn’t THE point of the story. Let’s be accurate.
@@TheShockVox You're right. It's about not calling actual terrorists terrorists. That's not any better.
Honestly the crisis of the Blip spunds like it would need to be it's own series while Falcon should have been aother that could make appearances in it. There are so many different people from all different walks of life that were brought back with their entire world ripped from them after what must have been a few seconds of panic when turning to dust then they all feel as if the were sent to the future rather than actually being gone for so long.
What if a man with kids and a wife reappears along with one of his kids that also got blipped? What if his wife died in either some crossfire in the chaos or remarried another guy and bow she has a whole new family when he felt like he was gone for 5 seconds? What is he supposed to do? It isn't fair to either of them to expect him to just deal with it and move on, nor is it fair for her to just leave her new husband and kids.
People lost homes, family, jobs, money, etc. Not to mention there is probably some prisons that got overrun in a riot if most of the guards got blipped and is probably now just a homeless camp. What the hell is everyone going to do? Also would there be some people who wished that rhose who were blipped just never came back and now they hate the Avengers for not only failing to stop the Blip in the first place but now also caused all this chaos after bringing half the population (of 5 years ago) back? There has to be some people who are thinking rhat way.
This would have been much more entertaining if it was about different people dealing with the aftermath of the blipped returning and wasn't social commentary from people who have no idea how governments, supply chains, borders or human nature works.
"Hollywood" is also ruining regional cultures & dialects around the world.
Notice how everything from Hollywood is spoken in a very generic Midwest American accent or else a very stereotypical accent? Even their foreign dialects are very stereotypical, bordering on comical.
Americans all across the nation are losing their identities and adopting "Californian speech" to the point that parts of the South no longer have that charming Southern accent (Austin, Texas is an excellent example). Even shows set in the South have generic accents.
Some parts of the UK are now starting to adopt Americanisms.
They brought back Black panther, but the actor died and they killed the character off anyways. They brought back Spider-Man only to continue to not own the rights to the character. Wanda returned only to become evil. On and on, if they just did not blip anyone back but rather Tony sacrificing himself to save the rest of humanity from Thanos, the BLIP complications would not exist.
The world would have been tossed into chaos and mourning with half the doctors, farmers, soldiers, cops, ect, just gone. Skills, jobs, and knowledge is NOT even distributed among a population so losing half of one is devastating. Children with no parents or caregivers just gone creating even more death and disasters. Then five years later billions of soon to be traumatized people ( because their loved ones are suddenly older or died ) are dumped into the world with already traumatized people. Thanos was a fool thinking eliminating half the people would solve anything. If anything a snap would probably eliminate two thirds of the people. It should have been a bigger deal in the movies and shows but nobody thought long term story wise. It was stupid to end a otherwise great series.
The show expects you to think that John Walker is an irredeemable monster while sympathizing with murderers. Ironically, Walker is up there with Spider-Man: No Way Home and Guardians 3 as the best part of the MCU post-Endgame.
I'm calling it right now. Thunderbolts is Black Widow 2 under a different name. It's essentially The Yelena Belova Movie. John Walker will upstage her big time.
so did shield know where lamar was this whole time? if so, why did they never just have a sniper take him out at some point during all those years they were controlled by hydra?
"they erased every last scrap of me from history, that's why you've not heard of me."
My dude they couldn't even erase every last scrap of Hatshepsut from history.
Got so used to the outro that I though my headphones broke at the end. Feels so abrupt without it
Hi Wolf!
They forgot to mention that the entire catastrophe known as "the blip" only exists because of the completely contrived plotline of Tony Stark's post-snap daughter. Then he dies anyway. Avengers Endgame was such a complete disaster of an ending.
Fighting winter soldier is what imprisoned him
These guys have grown to be some of my favorite people on RUclips, simply because they say what they actually think is the truth. that should say something.
It sucks that they failed to create a decent plot of the post snap world. They should've had a few movies and TV shows in between Infinity War and Endgame that would've introduced how remaining Avengers and citizens held everything together after the snap. They should've also introduced new heroes that could've fought with them in Endgame. What better origin story than the Snap and the events and disasters that followed? Having the old heroes react to the new heroes after Endgame would've been great for character building and drama afterward. Especially some that built their identities off of others.
There REALLY should've been a Phase 2.5 dealing with the snap. Give us 5-6 years of street-level heroes picking up the pieces and give it a more individualist angle to the snap. Hell, bring in some minor villains that are deadlier due to less resistance to them.
I was checked out when i heard this new "Cap" movie was coming out. Then i heard Gus Fring was in it then it kinda checked me back in, barely. So i started brainstorming on who it could be, might be cool. Looked it up... its Norman Osborn, returning for his 20th movie.
Disney Marvel presents: Captain America starts WW3
Don but not forgotten
Did y'all see those reaction vids of people crying at Sam's speech? 😂 pure cringe
It's strange that some of the The Falcon And The Winter Soldier characters are similar to the Star Wars Acolyte characters, for example: John Walker and Bucky equals Master Sol and Mae Aniseya and Cult lesbian space witches equals Karli Morgenthau Ginger girl
The latest batch of Hollywood screenwriters seem capable of writing only allegory... poorly.
The idiots who tried to write around the impact of the blip do not understand anything.
There wouldn't be less food, there would be more because less people are around to need it. Livestock would take an initial hit but would recover within the year.
There wouldn't be less resources.... there would be more so things would cost less because less demand.
There wouldn't be a collapsed economy/hardship - It would be thriving as there is less bloat and deadweight with tons of jobs for the survivors.
People wouldn't be hoarding resources because there would be metric fk-tons of resources with not enough people for them.
There might be wars as people try and land grab up control of resources... but that's a political power vacuum.
Dont forget the black soldiers who fought for the south willingly in 1861
Super sickle cell research.
Where's the outro? :/
this put me on JLB, she is hilarious. Based cultured lady.
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It's nice to listen to adults talk about politics.
Can't wait to see Captain Genocide aka Sabra.
Ruining? That reads like it hasn't already happened. XD
Being non racist is the most racist!
Can't listen to JLongbone laughing like a harpy all the time.
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Skill issue
I would have loved a good Falcon show or movie about Falcon… being Falcon. I don’t want him to be Captain America because I like Falcon as he was. 😒
Disney essentially wrote a Jan 6th scenario 2 years before it and tried to justify it when the only thing that stopped it was basically a super cop this defending cops too.
This show had a lot of potential but was ultimately ruined by writers and directors pushing a message and ignoring any sort of logic or reason ruining characters that we liked and making a character we were supposed to hate someone we sympathize with and feel bad for😂
Would Wakanda be okay with surrounding countries trying to take away pieces of their land?