They Nerfed Dead Silence Hard for Modern Warfare II (Beta)
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- Dead Silence has been nerfed fairly significantly in Modern Warfare II compared to the previous MW title in 2019. Today, I wanted to compare the two versions of this field upgrade and share my thoughts on the current state of Dead Silence. What do you think of the current state of Dead Silence in MWII?
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0:00 Intro
0:20 Charge Time Comparison
0:41 Active Timer
1:02 Movement Speed Boost?
1:52 Activation Animation/Delay
4:05 Activation Sound
5:38 Tune Up vs Overclock
6:06 My Thoughts & Feedback
8:58 Wrap Up 
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I think that's not enough.
I think, whenever someone activates Dead Silence, an alarm should go off in the lobby, with flashing lights, sirens and an announcer telling everyone that Dead Silence has been activated.
Also highlight them on the map as a red ping just for salt in the wound
'Activating Dead Silence now permanently paints your location and direction on the minimap during its entire duration."
Suprises me that they didnt made the annoucer go "An enemy in the vicinity has activated DS" for all enemies nearby the player that used DS lol
@@N7Null yes yes. Make us suffer. Why even give us a speed boost anymore either? We're *silent*
now also gives -5% speed
I'm hoping you're trolling 🤣
I will not lie. I’ve been killed so many times in those 2 seconds of pulling the noise cancel device out and turning it in
it slows your movement briefly as well. like why
“I will not lie”
Unusual opening
I have too! I was thinking I just got bad timing but this entire time these mfers could hear me 🤬😂
@@toadalthug4055 Staged reloads and over nerfing sliding did that too. I can live without slide canceling but not being able to immediately transition into aiming for a quick corner peak or firing while sliding really kills that mobility that made MW19 so much fun. Even if that game was drug down by MANY annoying flaws, its movement was super smoothy which really brought me back after a good 8 years.
@@lrsb1678 Sure but if you're flanking an entire team, they're ALL going to come looking for you at the same time because of the noise lol. The vast majority of the time when you're flanking, you're flanking multiple people, not just one player.
Infinity Ward: “We don’t want to punish players for firing their gun.”
Also Infinity Ward: ‘We want to punish players for moving.’
bUt ThAt'S tAcTiCAl!1!!111
I'm really starting to think this community decided to commit stupid.
The fact that they think red dots on a minimap is punishing players for shooting their weapon is so bullshit. Theres a counter: suppresors.
I find it interesting that people are simultaneously complaining about having to rely on sound to find people now and that sounds are too loud and easy to find people with.
Especially when the same people who want mini map dots are complaining about not instantly having ghost to stay off the minimap.
These changes are making it so you can use different perks and don't have to use a suppressor. If they did what everyone wanted then most people will just be running ghost, ninja, and a suppressor at all times.
You can still easily flank with the new footstep audio, just don't constantly sprint all the time. Sometimes you need to move slower to sneak up on people, shocking, I know.
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@OmairArif it’s not finding anyone though, it’s sitting there in a corner and waiting to hear a step and being able to hear their every move, red dots give away a vague idea and dont stick to players, footsteps are constant giveaways
I might be hallucinating but I swear you can hear people with Tac Sprint even when they're using Dead Silence. So on top of all the nerfs they have applied to Dead Silence, it's now not even dead silent.
You can you're not bugging
It's hilarious how IW were talking about wanting to cater to every play style, then they go and make any play style involving movement absurdly difficult.
They’ve done the exact opposite. They are a bunch of clowns 🤡
You can still rush, they just slowed the overall pace of the game down. So yeah, you can't just jump/slide cancel around a corner, but you can aggressively peek in other ways.
If you're on PC this feels like an amazing mix between COD and the Insurgency series
Ikr, the audacity to say that in so many interviews 😂
What they say is always the opposite of reality, this is how you sell something that isn't good
It's because before movement playstyles were the ONLY meta playstyles. And have been for a long time for most situations in basically EVERY Call of Duty for years. So saying that and backing it up by trying to make other playstyles relevant is actually not a bad thing. And yes they had to nerf movement playstyles to make it happen.
Because it's obvious that they'll never figure it out by simply making maps more suited to other playstyles or anything. Or nerfing every short-range gun in the game. lol. So I guess just nerf the movement itself. lol. But yes I think they are technically trying to back up what they said. For the most part.
It's just making most vocal players mad because the players that are generally vocal about these games are always the ones abusing the movement playstyle meta that usually exist.
I wish more people talked about the lacking name plates. I've died countless times because friendlies far on the map have their dots over the enemies head. It's horrible. It's also just 100x harder to spot and keep your aim on enemies that are behind covet and mostly not visible esp against shadows and with how they don't even have HDR settings
Ya whoever thought no nameplates was a good idea needs be fired iam have trouble tracking and seeing people cuz of no nameplates
That is honestly my biggest gripe with the game. The amount of times I've fucking died to some shitter literally proning in a patch of grass or some rocks with a shotgun/sniper I couldn't see when I was looking right where he was and got blasted is mind boggling.
It’s all a plan to keep good players from rushing. This game TTK is so fast, you can’t second guess anything. I’ve died so many times rushing and second guessing someone who is just aiming down
@@jaygunner people can prone in a pile of dead bodies and you can’t see them while they can see you
Even red dots would be better then nothing telling enemies from friends
Marksman mentioned that you can actually still hear footsteps if you’re tactical sprinting with the dead silence field upgrade
Yup! I waited for the animation to complete, activated it decently far from the enemy, and I was STILL sound whored. I'm flat out not buying until they make some kinda compromise...WZ2 is gonna be free anyway so f*** it!
Ridiculous
Good
Yep definitely not getting this game
I think dead silence activates because when you click the button the character phone homes to Activision and Activison gives him the green light to get quiet footsteps.
For those who don't think that 2 seconds animation is a big thing: just remember how many times you died to an enemy who also got killed miliseconds after he killed you
I've been killed way more in this game deploying trophy systems. For some reason they decided to make that animation longer too
Or remember the gas mask animation on warzone pre patch... that animation cost me countless wins
I didn't think a 2 second animation was a big thing... then I read the rest of your comment 🤯
The number of times I activated Dead Silence in MW2019 and died within the period whereby I instantly got it back was rediculous. 2 second window and I'll never get it active.
Also what's with the box, surely if they're going for realism I should pull over to a bench on the side of the map and take my shoes off, then put some rubber soul shoes on. Solid 30 seconds work at least there.
@@Scroolewse a lot of good players use these on Objectives, so Infinity Ward want to nerf them too. Basically, playstyles that are popular with good players have been nerfed into the ground.
This explains a lot about why people were pre-aiming me when I had deadsilence :D Everybody looking like they have wall hacks when they are crouching in a corner listening foot steps on max volume.
Yeah me too !
My biggest gripe is making so many noises in third person that I don't make in first person. It gives a false sense of security in my stealthiness when in reality the enemy thinks I'm moving a box of china
you mean in the 3rd person mode? I don't even play 3rd person but yeah I don't understand their reasoning behind making it louder in 3rd person
@@yaago no sorry. I meant in the killcam. You make so much more noise when you see yourself in other people's pov.
The worst thing about that is that you don't even need to sprint as even walking makes an insanely loud noise (as I've seen on way too many killcams)
I feel that with every new cod we move further and further away from being an arcade shooter it always ways
Black ops 4 remains the only last "real" call of duty
Cold war league play was great
Cold war at least is the best of the worst.
You say that as people are literally sprinting and jumping around every corner imaginable. Until you’ve played a proper milsim game trust me, COD remains an arcade shooter as ever. What you’re complaining about it just balancing. Literally nobody ever used any other field upgrade other than DS
@@jki808 and I wonder why. Couldn’t be the footstep sounds being as loud an elephant stampeding on top of a brick road. You can quite literally track people throughout the match if you pay attention to just the the footstep audio
I've never seen a CoD game get in the way of having fun more than this one. Remarkable.
You know it's a problem when battlefield has more arcade style gameplay than Call of Duty does... Let's hope that this game launches with a ranked mode for all the people telling the others that aren't having fun to just get better or adapt
@@Dartlin just wait until ground war starts 'rebalancing' teams
@@Dartlin ranked won't do a thing... try-hards will be in both places.
@@Dartlin yeah im going back to bf5 for my arcade shooter feel. Its nuts.
I said the same
How they are handling this makes perfect sense when you consider that they are looking to get rid of the rushing play style completely. I’ll be canceling my preorder until we determine what the final game is like.
I played the early beta and I didn't preorder. I actually paid the $5 for the early beta code for this exact reason. Maybe it should be posted on Reddit that all players should cancel their preorder until fair a balanced changes are made. It's just ridiculous how far they've gone to stop the run and gun play style.
Exactly what I've done 🤣
Then Don't use that playstyle
Just play Cold War lol
That’s exactly what they’re doing! I’ve never seen such a push for more camping. I canceled my preorder after all the hope I had was completely shot down during the beta.
I also heard that radio sound a lot. I thought that it was a portable device or something. It's absolutely unbelievable that that's the sound when activating dead silence. They literally hate players like us.
I heard it almost every match and couldn’t figure out what it was until I saw a video on Twitter.
The alarm sound when you activate DEAD SILENCE reminds me of that Chowder episode where he tries to sneak into the kitchen and to avoid his footsteps being heard, he starts throwing glass plates so that the sound of them breaking drowns out the sound of his footsteps 😭
This game is a perfect example of more animations doesn't mean good gameplay. It's an inconvenience more than anything.
Yeah it’s a very pretty game but infinity ward doesn’t understand what fun is
Well normies and battlefield fans love realism over functionality, no matter how bad the gameplay is, as long as the reload animation is realistic
You dumbasses have no idea what the topic of the video even is. Stfu stop rambling. Talk about the topic of the video. The topic of the video is dead silence and you dumbasses are talking about animation quality? Wtf?
@@valsione38 Battlefield fans don’t like more animations that’s why they removed a lot of them in 2042. BFV had animations for absolutely everything and it was hated.
@@valsione38 where did you get bf fans loving realism they’re more realistic but it doesn’t better since the gameplay is usually good
How they managed to go even more backwards from mw2019 is mind blowing to me
Seriously. It’s so many steps backwards and I just can’t wrap my head around it.
Imo the maps are at least good, so it’s still fun overall for me
This has to be a troll. In what way is mw22 worse than mw19? As far as I've seen it seems to be a direct upgrade.
@@balashibuyeeter2704 this entire video one one big reason why it's worse
@Jahtzee You are definitely that one person that somehow finds a way to camp on shipment and doesn’t like the fact that your play style has counters. Please, dead silence as a perk makes the game better. Cold war and Vanguard had dead silence as a perk and they are way better then MW2019. Check your facts before speaking
Silent flanking has always been my favorite way to play this game. Glad I got to try things out in the beta, they saved me $70.
I didn’t even have to play the beta to know I saved my money, honestly never seen a game that does so much in its power to hand out participation trophies, it honestly feels patronising.
@@jackkelly6251 lol the past cods we're worse with how many tracking perks you could equip this one only has one tracking perk and you say they getting works. No the skill gap is better
@@Ccubed92 What tracking perks are you talking about? Also the skill gap is objectively smaller by a significant amount, the developers themselves have said this
@@Ccubed92 are you talking about tracker? A perk that let's you see someone's foot prints for a sec after they move? Why do you need to see the footsteps if you can hear them 60 miles away through 10 walls?
Ah yes, the magical dead silence radio machine as opposed to the previous game when your guy I guess just remembers he can run super fast and be extra quiet, then forgets 15 seconds later
*At this point i’m 100% sure they just don’t want you to move at all. Spawn in, stand still. That’s the game.*
Lol true
I move around just fine and I’m sure u do too.
Aggro players are doing just fine lmao
I have never touched Dead Silence at all during the Beta and I've managed to sneak up behind people just fine lol. Just because you can't sprint everywhere doesn't mean you can move at all. Oh no, you have to walk a bit, how dreadful!
@@Xynth25 They are not doing fine since everyone is camping or aim walking everywhere
We found that Dead Silence was punishing players since they couldn't hear the enemy with dead silence. So we added the sound que and delay of activation to allow sentinel players the ability to hear and get a chance to counter players trying to be aggressive on their flank.
Sincerely, Infinity Ward
Your?@.
I wouldn't be surprised since they literally said "we don't want to punish players for firing their weapons" at that point its just shitty game design
Except, it doesn't really work. I can still run around with near impunity while Dead Silence is active, doubly so if I'm running a loadout that hides enemy death symbols.
sentinel players kkkkkkkkkkk
@@tamedcoochie2193 you'll buy it anyway.
Can kind of understand the sound from activating dead silence, but more so from a warzone point of view, you never knew or when someone had dead silence and was using it until all of a sudden someone runs around the corner and gets you without any sound and the rage that stems from it. Not sure how I feel about it being in multiplayer though yet.. 🤔
They’re trying to merge multiplayer with warzone and it’s ruining casual call of duty
What the hell you talking about the rage that comes from a guy killing you with dead silence maybe you shouldn’t be soundwhoring in the first place lmao damn near every CoD I played had a perk for quiet footsteps so you should know how to play CoD without relying on footsteps especially if you play on a competitive level
I'm with you on this one Ace. I didn't know hitting Dead Silence gave me away, but would certainly explain why I ended up getting killed in a few cases. I like the idea of making Ghost more effective, as yeah, the audio cues can be a PITA, even on hectic maps.
The problem is Ghost is up for like a minute or two during a typical TDM match. They need persistent perks.
@@MisterCaution Very true. I have Fast Hands on one load out and get annoyed when I switch to the shotgun and it seems to take forever. Then I remember that Fast Hands isn't active yet...
@@AverageBritishNerd1138 And, you’d better hope you weren’t engaged in a hectic gunfight when the perk’s timer sprung, because it’s easy to miss in the heat of battle!
You know back in the day when dead silence was a perk it had a great counter, it was called sitrep pro, it's cool how you can have perks balance eachother out like 10 years ago and now the balance team just decides how you play
Its funny how the older games had some balance, but for some reason this is completely ignored by the modern devs and the 2014+ cod community who have no idea what a good cod is.
It is funny how that "counter" completely made Dead Silence worthless and everyone would run Sit-Rep Pro. People will always run something to hear footsteps if there is no counter to it.
@@Dragoonsoul7878 Did you know that if you ran sit rep then you wouldnt have dead silence and people heard you anyway? Shocking, I know.
@@Dragoonsoul7878 funny how this is not true at all
@@Dragoonsoul7878 sit-rep pro was In mw3 and that 3rd perk Slot was stacked with powerful perks so No everybody did not run it and gettin sitrep pro was pain In the ass anyway.
After playing the beta, I am swinging towards cancelling my pre-order just because the devs are trying way too much to cater the casual/campy players. Playing aggressive in this game is just a punishment because of the extremely low ttk, no radar, slow movement and loud footsteps.
Not to mention the killstreak are all nerfed version from other cods. Also too many roofs making them even more dogshit. But those same roofs provide defense for UAVs (the only streaks casuals will usually get).
Cancel it right now, wait about a week after the game is released and see if you should buy it or not (most likely gonna be not)
Already canceled it. They want this game to have everyone sitting in corners killing anyone that moves
low TTK helps you lol. if you get a good flank and find more than one enemy then you are way more likely to be able to kill both with a fast TTK. Slow TTK gives at least one of them ample time to turn and burn you.
@@Scroolewse also helps the kid in the corner with no name plate lol
Make the activation silent, but add a black vignette that takes up 2% of each side of the screen. So 8% view reduction in order to simulate the sneaky factor
The footsteps and the lack of Ninja perk is the main reason why I won't be picking this game up. Thanks for all the detailed breakdowns, Ace.
Balancing stuff aside, has anyone noticed that the Lachman 7.62 is bugged? It's on semi by default, but the UI shows it in the auto setting. When you switch it to the semi setting (according to the UI), it is then on full auto.
Same with the FTAC Recon. It says it's in burst fire mode by default but it's semi auto, then when you put it in semi auto it shoots auto.
Same with the M4 battle rifle I noticed there’s a lot of annoying bugs like my fov will just randomly change from 120 to 80 after I die or in one case never change into 120 after I spawn in
Same with the .458 socom M4.
It's a cool glitch but in practice the full auto isn't worth it at all, at least if you're at long range on ground war or something. You only need a couple shots.
@@iamahiphopfan3759 That's interesting because that was a common glitch on Vanguard where it goes down to like 60fov randomly. But I've never experienced it in this game or heard of anyone having that happen.
One thing I liked about Vanguard was how they did dead silence. It made your foot steps quite and you had a temporary ghost. With this you can have both dead silence as a perk and a field upgrade.
And it wasn't even necessary in the first place because footstep audio was already quite low. For how shit vanguard is, they nailed that 1 aspect.
@@djabouty47 after that player base died lol
@@redclaw72666 the player base died cuz the rest of the game sucked ass, not cuz of footsteps
@@djabouty47 Vanguard nailed so many things in the right way. I just got done playing it again and got 96 kills and 7 deaths. Do you know how good that felt?? 😂🤣 Ugh, i hated vanguard for so long but this last season I actually began to like it and now after this week I love it.
It sounds good on paper but it might be problematic having a free perk slot. I think overclock is messed up right now but it allows two charges and 40% faster charge time alongside kills reducing cooldowns.
Imo I prefer dead silence as a perk but ONLY if we can counter it like og MW2/3. It's kinda weird they won't do counter perks like sonic boom vs flak jacket or stopping power vs jugg, etc
This is so frustrating! Love the work you do. Keep it up. I think I'll save my money for now
Great video the devs really gotta make some changes about the feedback and issues we’ve told em
"We've noticed players are having mixed feelings about the newly tuned Dead Silence Field Upgrade. To keep our promise about making Modern Warfare support playstyles of all kinds we decided to increase the animation time from 2s to 5s and made the noise upon activation even louder. We hope you play around with these changes and continue to provide feedback we won't listen to".
-Joe Cecot
Sounds and looks about right 🤦🏿♂️🔥
Lol
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Lmao deadass
Cecok
The excessive catering to casual players is just wild man. I understand catering to them in some ways, but doing it in literally every single aspect of the game is absurd
they dont know that their beloved casual player base is going to hop onto the next game and abandon this atrocity they created from their GREED.
We have to show them with not buying the game
@@tomsco7 don’t buy it then dork, this release fun as hell, won’t be seeing you out there 💀🫡
More pros camp then casuals. Stop the bs
@@JaKingScomez 🧢
love your vids man props to you for not losing your patients in your videos with all the crap they are giving us in this new game
The fact the the silent footsteps ability plays a loud sound to alert all nearby enemies that you’re trying to sneak up on them might be the funniest change in the series history. Even funnier than when they accidentally made MW3 pistols one hit kill to the foot. What a bad game MW22 is.
Ghost perk unlocked at 67 kills in a max 75 kills game nice now I want to know what they were smoking while thinking about this logic. 🌚
i was alright with the adjustment of an animation to start it to kind of give it a nerf but now you can still hear the footsteps and there’s a noise when you activate it it’s just crazy. they really don’t people to actively seek out gunfights now do they?
That'll mean no thumbs timmy will get smashed and not purchase the next IW cod.
Might be wrong but I thought footsteps were never “silent” with dead silence, just quieter. Almost silent over gunshots and explosions but from what I understand there was still always some noise with dead silence
Just when you thought it couldn't be any worse than 2019, Joe Safespace "Hold my beer".
I don't think I've ever been done with a CoD game before its beta even ended but this year they've done it. I've never been so bored (when i play as IW intends people to play)/frustrated (when i try to rush), when playing a Call of Duty.
Getting rid of squad spawns would negate the need for positional audio so aggressive but instead they’d rather just kill stealth
@@epgamer1145 If everyone knows where you are, you can't rush. If you have some semblance of stealth, you can rush because you have the chance to catch people unaware.
@@epgamer1145 stealth perks are for the rushing play style. Why would you need stealth to be a camping b!tch while you sit around in a corner?
@Steven 1773 it doesn't matter whether you call it stealth or rushing it's not a viable strategy in mw2
@@jediporg1245 play rb6 then its basically cod just with trash sound
@@epgamer1145 For real. Eveeyone keeps saying "rushing playstyle is dead" but fail to see that the people who are topping the scoreboard each match are still doing it by rushing. Myself included. I die more than I used to because of the audio I'm sure, but it hasn't killed my playstyle.
What I hate even more than the fact that they make footsteps so loud in this game is that they make things like reloads and equipment usage really loud - worst of all you can't even crouch walk without someone hearing you. Like far out, if you want to stop rushing then at least allow us to walk without being soundwhored so that we can at least get around the map...
Yes you can crouch walk completely silently.
@@Lowlightt no you can't, I watch in killcams that I make noise even while crouch walking
@@potapotapotapotapotapota Yes you can. If you are on pc you can adjust the walking speed. 25% or lower while couched makes no noise. Even tells you this in the option settings.
@@Lowlightt why is crouch walking above a certain pace STILL NOT QUIET? What’s the point of walking slow if I’m still gonna be heard? Please tell me how this makes sense.
@@trey1783 Because the game is designed on an analogies stick for movement. Crouch walking with a slight tilt is silent while you can move faster but with the disadvantage of making noise. Since pc is digital input you can adjust it for how fast you want to crouch walk. Audio is being used to inform the player of enemy positions hence there will be a lot of mechanics involving audio.
I did comment on your video a day or 2 back wondering if there was an activation sound. turns out I was right. Cheers for clearing that up
After playing this beta for a few days...this new IW has tarnished the memory of the OG MW2 for me.
And this is the game we have to have for 2 years
Not me
they're delusional
Got I hope they are trolling us and releasing a totally different version of the game for launch😬there’s no way this is making it 2 years.
Not if you don’t buy it
Hah! Not for everyone (including me) that’s listening to their bias promises and “improvements”. Remember there are games that’s 100% better and at least know how to handle their mistakes
I also notice that when you get multiple kills, maybe three or more, with dead silence the timer increases. After that fourth kill I run nearly the entire map while it's still active, so I think the more kills you get the longer the timer is from the initial point of activating.
Not just kills any objective based actions and revival of teammates downed resets the timer. To promote movement
Ikr. I’ve had almost ridiculous amounts of ds that it kinda feels like a perk anyway
@@SlyMcToeTaggin i don’t think so cause every time I capture a B flag in dom, it never resets. I might be wrong tho or i just have bad timing.
@@SlyMcToeTaggin hi. How can I revive my teammates?
@@f_society9151 it’s only in specific game modes or if your teammate is running the last stand perk
I think people underestimate how loud someone is when running around with combat boots and full gear. They're really loud. Especially indoors.
Yeah if you are in the same house indoor maybe you would hear the dude running, but if im outside across the street im not supposed to hear you running on the 3rd floor of the building 😅 i think the footsteps audio is fine as a base, but should be quieter to more walls there is between the sound and the dude that hear it 🤔
Doesn't mean this change isn't dumb.
It's not meant to be a combat sim, it's an arcade shooter.
@@partyboytimes its a stupid change yeah, instead of doing this they could've just brought back SitRep and Dead Silence as perks and boom, problem fixed.. but Activision/Infinity Ward are stubborn so forget that 🥲
This is the same series that let us run around in metal exo skeletons silently in the name of gameplay balance though
I don't think people realize how loud gunshots and explosions are. If you are in a battle with constant gunshots and explosions, you ain't gonna be hearing no damn footsteps.
In order for the footsteps to be this loud the gunshots should be causing permanent hearing damage to the player and the explosions should be making their ears bleed. There is nothing remotely realistic about the sound mixing in this game. Footsteps should be whisper quiet compared to gunshots.
Since they have shown the ability in previous versions to add Perks via DLC and updates, they can and they SHOULD add some kind of perk for reducing sound. Even if there are heavy tradeoffs for it.
This also explains why it’s one of the last field upgrades you unlock….not everyone will reach that level in the beta so less people will know that they completely nerfed it.
Agreed but there was early access to it by selecting the premade class and editing around it. Also, I’m feeling aroused. Just saying.
You can get it without unlocking it, it's on by default if you make a new class and select the one that has dead silence on it.
I think that’s pretty conspiracy-ish, I really doubt the two are related.
the default class with dead silence is pretty good
People also don’t mention that Dead Silence got buffed where every kill refreshes the duration. I’ve personally had it last for two minutes as long as you continue rushing.
I 100% agree with this entire video. When I first started playing cod back in 2008 I never thought that in the future I would be so heavily punished to be an aggressive player.
But these new cods are punishing you to be passive…
@@SlapperTV rewatch this video then reread your comment…. make it make sense
@@vqcyle3206 the footsteps being loud, no red dots on minimap, all these houses you can chill in especially in MW19… yea I’ve been forced to play more passive the past 4 years
Infinity ward straight up decided that in their game in which ‘all styles of play are viable’ that the aggressive style was way too overpowered and nerfed it to shit even after all the problems mw2019 had with camping
1:05 love how you hit deady then smash through a couple of doors and window 😂
One thing I didn’t see you mention is how the white effect on the borders can obscure the minimap, is anyone else annoyed by this or is it just me???
Infinity Ward made a field upgrade that counters itself, wow 🤪
If they included ninja as a perk alongside a dead silenced field upgrade, it would increase the variety of field upgrades I would use. I wouldn't need to run dead silenced if I always had ninja on or I could run a different perk and choose to run dead silenced if I still wanted the option to be silent sometimes
You are totally right, I agree with everything you said. Since this is going to be for 2 years, I can see them making is ultra shitty for launch and then making it back to 2019 standards as a lazy way of saying they are making compensations to the community being pissed off......same with the perks saying we tried to make changes to the perk system but then decided to go back to the old style as a way of saving face without any real work. When 2019 was originally launched they had planned on not having a mini map at all, then added it back right before launch. I didn't understand why the outrage not having the red dots on the mini map because I play exclusively hardcore, and the only time I see a mini map is when I use a UAV, but after playing the beta I now understand why all the complaints. I just don't understand why they are not making the game for the people who play it......It's like going to a restaurant and ordering a rare steak, and getting a well done steak delivered to the table and the waiter saying that the chef thinks that you would prefer it cooked this way.
*Also want to add that they nerfed dropshot very badly as well*
*Also you can’t sprint after getting hit by a grenade, you are basically stunned*
Dunno
These aren't bad
Drop shotting was heavily complained about in MW2019.
Dropshotting is turbo cringe anyway so that's not a big loss
Just be glad you're alive after surviving a granade
Dead silence was the only thing that made mw2019 playable
💯
facts
And add Ghost perk at the start too to that make mw2019 playable lol
I mean, my favorite way to play has always been a shotgun with either a launcher or revolver, and ghost. I don't necessarily want to stay removed from the map, but I want it to be too late to distance me when I do appear. Between this, the perk system, and the footsteps, I'm kinda tapped out of playing like that too. Aggression be damned in the "Support all play styles" game we were advertised. Which is sad, because there is a lot I like going on here in other aspects of the game.
As always ace out here doing god's work researching everything huge props man. These dead silence changes are terrible hope IW looks at all the feedback they're getting
they was told to make it a perk for 3 years. they dont care about what the community wants
They need to just make it a perk
Let me add that when deady active enemies can hear you when you tac sprint.
Even Cav in R6 has a more logical silent footstep mechanic. When her ability is activated her footsteps are quieter when walking/crouch walking but when she’s sprinting the footsteps will be much louder.
1 thing for sure, the hip fire accuracy while the animation is going from popping the dead silence on, is insane. I spotted an enemy in a S&D match far and I mean, FAR away in the distance, while popping dead silence on. I started spraying hip fire with my MP5 within the animation and got the kill with spraying 15 bullets. That was insane🤣
Is like IW wants to make dead silence more useless as possible after the the massive feedback that players want it back as a perk.
And I agree, if IW can’t bring Dead Silence perk, at least remove start up animation and audio. As well adding Ninja perk that make our footsteps quieter, I could imagine it would end up as an ultimate perk.
Dude, I hear your frustration with this game (both in this video and a lot of your recent videos about the beta) and I feel you 100%. It feels like so many things were changed for absolutely no reason other than ‘innovation’ or to ‘cater to casuals’ (or however you want to put it). Regardless of the reasoning, the changes-across the board-feel unnecessary. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Shout-out to the sleeves on my operator blowing in the imaginary wind while indoors
Slowing down the game play and giving more options isn't just catering to casual players. It makes it more competitive at the high end because there is more options for game play styles, whereas previously there was either lurk/rush or camp
Naw they aren't catering to us casuals they are catering to their 1% money making streamers that tive publicity to the game. Hate to say it but ace is like the 2%, but that's cool too because he supports his community. Activision needs to take our judgement shove it down their throats choke on it and change it.
@@robertl632 this does not cater to streamers lol. Streamers don’t like to camp. What are you talking about hahaha
@@Lazyfoal pffft this caters to pro league this caters to streamers if you think for a fucking sec it caters to casual gamers cod dads and college dropouts you are the problem
One thing that I don't see anyone complaining about yet that I've had experience with is the fact that killstreak/explosion smoke and whatever dust clouds cause from gunfire and bullets landing or whatever will only pop up on my screen but someone can see me perfectly fine through it on the kill Cam and I had no way of f****** seeing them until I'm already almost dead
The way you make ninja work is very simple. Make it a scaling perk. Meaning if you're walking its 100% concealment, running is 70% concealment, tac sprint is 40% concealment. The % can be moved around but that the idea.
They definitely don't want us to move at all 🤦🏻
Wow and I thought it was impossible to have a game more camper-friendly than mw2019. Looks like they are taking it a step further. Now you will basically be forced to ads walk or crouch walk wherever you go.
Really hope Cecot is watching these videos and taking notes. Ace is spoon feeding you free advice on how to unfuck what is fucked.
Love the blue dots above my enemies through the map.
There are better options than dead silence, i mean have you tried doing the complete opposite? Spamming decoy nades can almost completely hide foot steps, and the smoke drop drone covers like half the map (also acts as a mini uav)
Lmao true. A couple times my friends and I would spray LMGs the entire time and another buddy would just rush through no need for dead silence lol
@@Latinblood59 especially when you hear everyones footsteps too, already enough confusion in the game
I find pretty good success in using battle rage instead of dead silence. I know I'm not quiet but combined with speed and health perks I hit some nasty kill chains
I tried running decoys alongside battle rage and it seems to kind of help especially because of how loud the decoys are in this game
Ninja perk that reduces Footstep radius and sound by about half and also makes it so the sound doesnt go through walls
Thats crazy about the DS move speeds. I felt like I was flying around the map when I popped it. 🤣🤣 it must just be the animations around the screen , camera angle etc..
Hey Ace, can you be heard if you're tac sprinting with Dead Silence active?
I feel like you can but I can't say for sure and can't test reliably without custom games.
Is it me or does it also feel like double time got a nerf too?
Hmm, I've never noticed anything different about double time myself.
I thought Double Time got a buff tbh, but idk.
It may be the weapons that I'm using? I'm not sure honestly..
@@floofyasuka yeah depends on the weapons and attachments, they can lower your speed.
I mean, if they want dead silence to be a field upgrade, it should at least be worth it. I personally used it (in MW2019) not only for the stealth, but as a way to escape when I’m getting shot at (or to go across a dangerous zone).
I'd consider slightly lowering footstep audio across the board with the exception of tactical sprint and giving dead silence the bonus effect of increased enemy footstep audio (basically same audio level as we currently have it). Keep the audio ping, but make it audible to yourself so casual players can recognize it and bump up the movement speed to atleast 5%.
I like the idea of making it a field upgrade but this gives it enough of a buff in my eyes to justify it not being an ultimate perk. Need more movement based field upgrades imo. Maybe a proximity radar field upgrade that gives general direction of close range enemies that are standing still and/or in prone stance.
The increased footstep listening is in the rage inducer btw
As if Movement isn't slow enough, IW wants to push it to be EVEN slower, slower Dead Silence movement and even when you get hit with a grenade in this game... a grenade, it's like a stun and you're character gets shellshocked and can barely move for a couple seconds, which is just ridiculous.
The equipment in this game is just awful because battle hardened does so fucking little to counter it. I just stopped running battle hardened because there was no point in using it
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How did Ace lose that gunfight? I feel like there are quite a lot of these sus death in this game.
fun fact if someone started shooting you with an mp5/lachman sub when you activate deadsilence they could kill you over 10 times before it activates the buff
Sound effect for the dead silence field order is the same sound effect from the store on the map Piccadilly in mw2019.
I am actually mind blown that this is the direction they have chose to go in. I have played every cod multiplayer and this is just a joke. The footsteps are so loud they ruin every single game mode. You can not retake a hardpoint because they hear you coming all the way down the street
they are suppose to be loud
@@conor-_C no
@@SalemXIII yes audio has been shit for years
Bruh, infinity ward needs to go…
I like how there’s an animation the sound is unnecessary tho. But anything that slows down your play style while improving mine I approve!
I swear the footsteps are variable depending on sbmm deciding if it’s a game you’re going to win or lose
No mini map to indicate enemy gun fire, no dead silence as a perk, audible foot steps (elephant feet), no enemy name tag, need I say more 😂
Yess more skills to get kills
I think Dead silence being nerfed is great *in isolation*. But given how loud the foot steps are in MWII I think people see it as the only relief for rush style players.
I would rather have the foot steps be quieter by default or have a ninja perk than have to rely on Dead Silence. I think DS is a crutch, but I want the rest of the game to be more aggression friendly to compensate.
DS is a crutch just due to how the game is designed , specifically if you want to run around and be aggressive. It's not that it's ridiculously broken or anything, it's just that there is no other option.
@@lrsb1678 I do okay for the most part (like a 1.5 is my average on mp) I just feel punished for playing how I want. With how the ttk is, lack of mobility options to enter a fight, and how loud you are, I just don't have to reflexes anymore to constantly win heavily disadvantaged gunfights or want to only use the mp5 lol. It's just not fun imo
Footstep audio is the crutch, that is why everyone slows down when there is no counter to footsteps.
If the counter to a crutch is a crutch... then the original crutch is by far too powerful.
Me while looking at the MW19 icon on my pc: Perhaps i was too harsh on you
The tradition of breaking things that work, semi fixing those changes, and proclaiming they are listening to their users, continues in stride.
I personally think most of these game design decisions are coming down to how they were pushing their improved audio package as part of the game improvements. That's why we are dealing with such ridiculous footstep audio and all the extra unnecessary sounds.
I've also noticed that suppressor attachments on your guns don't seem to significantly lower your gun audio either which also affects the ability to play stealthy/flanking styles of gameplay.
This game is pretty much going to come down to who can afford the best set of headphones to play with as I've noticed some people seem to be able to hear you coming from miles away.
Even more proof that they are catering to sentinel (camping) play style
Fully agree. At the very least if they want to stay stubborn for some dumb reason, they need to chill on the footstep volume. It's insane how loud we all are. I run around with a pistol (knife when it comes out) and I shouldn't sound like I've got bricks in my pockets wverywhere I go. It's insane how loud footsteps are. It's to the level that it's distracting
I’m fairly certain that players can hear you tac sprinting while you are using dead silence as well, which also completely defeats the purpose if true
1 step forward, 6 steps backwards..
Tbh as someone who rushes a lot, I've found myself foregoing dead silence for other field upgrades more and more. I've tried out other things and some work and others don't. Honestly I found the smoke drones to help a lot with some maps for rushing because everyone just avoids the area.
But towards the direct nerfs for Dead Silence:
I think the movement speed nerf was needed but maybe too hard of a reduction, 7% felt too much imo. Yeah it felt good but I've seen it be a problem with some lobbies in 2019. I think maybe reducing it to somewhere between 3%-5% would have been fair.
The animation is annoying but livable. I don't understand why it's a radio but I believe the animation was to keep it in line with other field upgrade activations, the deployables take a second or two to throw and such, if they change it from being a radio for something more thematic it would be alright.
The activation sound just flat out shouldn't be there, idk whose idea that was. Announcing any use of a field upgrade is dumb and should never be a thing.
"Trophy system deployed!"
@Joseph Stalin don't know how that statement is valid but alright buddy.
@@Aguin0re shits so annoying to announce that to anyone but your team at best.
Totally agree with you on this. As for footstep audio, I think it should be toned down significantly, especially when you're crouch moving, ADS moving or just walking. Running can be a little louder, like in Vanguard
IW: We made a game that fits every play style.
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