Yep still rocking the C5Z and still showing those 5.0s and 392s the old school tail lights. And includes the unique nostalgic look since there's barely any of them on the road anymore so people don't even know what it is since most of the C5s on the road are the hatchbacks.
It’s amazing even though the c5 z06 had shot tires it made those numbers. With good tires I bet it would have gone faster than the grand sport. The c5 it’s stupid light.
Question about the C5 Z06. Were those fairly new tires because I am surprised that you would say a track tuned car such as the C5 Z06 would be sliding all over the track with marginal grip unless it was fitted with marginal tires.
It's truly amazing how American cars have evolved from being straight line performance lugnuts to world class sports cars and supercars. Man it's good to be an American.
"STILL GOT MOTOR"... lame. do a real test with tires and then when u upload it, if the video says "this isn't really a comparison test" then do not put "comparison test" as the title...
@GhostCell07 The engine is actually lighter than most engines with the same output and far less prone to failure. Most people think that a smaller engine is going to be lighter. But to build it to output like a bigger engine, the reinforcement and add-ons like turbos and intercoolers nullifies the weight advantage pretty easily.
Bought a new 2019 Corvette Grand Sport, with a MANUAL TRANSMISSION, and it’s a great car! Huge power, fantastic handling, and with the magnetic ride control, the car goes from track stiff to cruising smooth in an instant. My wife even asks when we can go for drives in the Corvette Grand Sport, and that rarely happens with my NSX. Buy one, if at all possible, life is short.
We're going to test these cars to see which is faster. The car I don't like will be driven on 4 temporary spare tires, for science. Given how close the C5 Z06 was to the C6 GS in handling even with cardboard tires, it might have shown up the fancy GS had it been wearing fresh rubber. We can't have that, can we?
I saw a test on a magazine where that Z06 Carbon beats the GTR in braking and 1/4 mile times and the slamon. Now 2 vettes are beating the GTR. They cant complain about price anymore!
My choice is the Grand Sport. 436 horsepower is more than enough for me and the spine-tingling baritone snarl of the LS3 is worth what you end up paying for this car.
Mr. Walton, you definitely needed to check the tires before entering the track. If you need tires, get tires. Also, it seems that you needed to practice throttle control if you were going to talk about the cars lack of track traction. Know when and how to properly apply throttle after you have gone through the apex. Specially in a car as torque happy as a Corvette. Knowing how do that is something I learned the hard way myself, and if you are to properly report then you must learn it too.
I don't see why an American would care. Holden is a GM company. The LS9 is based on a Custom motor? The LS series of motors started as a basic design by Ed Cole in the mid 1950's....but it saw life in a car for the first time in 1997 I believe. So the LS design is very old on paper. The LS9 is an LS3 base. So to say it's an Australian design would be stretching. A lot of people are sick of the bias against American cars, the Corvette more than any other. It's more than earned it's respect.
Actually, the 2002 Z06 could hit 60 mph in 3.9 sec (chevrolet claim), do the quarter mile in 12.2 sec @ 116mph (mag tests), pull over 1G on the skidpad (chevrolet claim, numerous tests) with GOOD TIRES. It also ran around the Nurburgring in 7:56, driven by Dave Hill. That's only 13 seconds slower than the C6 Z06's time, on a 12 mile road course. So don't sleep on the C5 Z, she's still a beast! lol
Wow, Z06 should be hitting mid-low 3's 0-60. Then again, they did say it was a "prototype". Lightweight carbon LS7 with magnetic shocks, I can't wait to see what that thing can do on a race track!
The Radical and the Gumpert Apollo are pretty much street legal race cars. I put them in the same category as the Ultima GTR. Notice though, that cars that actually compare to the Corvette and the Viper... (Nissan GTR, Porsche's, Ferraris, Pagini Zonda, Lamborghini's, etc., are all slower at the ring.
Here is the current list of non benchmarking autos driving around for the tourists. Seems to be very short of certain makes. 1. Radical SR8LM 6:48.00 2. Radical SR8 6:55.00 3. Gumpert Apollo Speed 7:11.57 4. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 7:12.13 5. Lexus LFA Nurburgring Package 7:14.64 6. Donkervoort D8 RS 7:14.89 7. Porsche 911 GT2 RS 7:18.00 8. Radical SR3 Turbo 7:19.00 9. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 7:19.63 10. Nissan GT-R 7:21.00 11. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 7:22.68
The new Carbon Z06 sounds far better than the previous one. It sounds almost as good as the ZR1. So if people aren't considering it a muscle car, but a sports car that's almost a super car... I don't see why people just don't call it a sub-supercar like the Lotus lineup and they're mostly about handling an acceleration. The C6 gen got the handling down, has more speed, and just about everything else.
an extra $25k because it lapped the 'Ring under 8 minutes. To those companies the only thing that matters is if they can make money, and running at the 'Ring doesn't make you money. No one that is already thinking about over-paying for a BMW/Audi/MB is actually concerned about the performance, because they'll never drive it to the limit. They want it to look pretty, and run without problems.
@Janusha ............OK. I lived there and you read it. Perhaps things there have changed since 2005 (when I was there last). When I was in Germany, there was a variety of interested parties (both factory and rich owners) that used this track to "benchmark" their cars against known competitive runs. The reason for this is the length of the track, the number and types of corners this track offers. A lot can be learned about a car at this facility. On the other hand, who cares ?
Chris Walton is porsche fanatic so you know that's why they didn't spend the 1250.00 dollars for a new set of tires for the 2002 corvette z06 are tell tire rack to loan them a set that is really crazy taking a sports car on a track with bald are bad tires.
Im not sure bout this guy. I think the 02 ZO6 had much more potential than what they showed here. It seems like the intentional didnt put the right tires on it so it wouldnt perform like it should. I love all these Vettes. But I also think the numbers are off. Better driver perhaps?
I would like to see what the '02 Z06 would do with the tires that are on the prototype Z06. And if you hate Corvettes of any kind then you shouldn't be watching this video!
@93foxwcubes depends really if your planning on racing it or what c5 is cool but cant handle as much power as an ls2 but depends on what you like c6 looks more modern and nicer but its heavier c5 is is about 200 pounds lighter but has the potential too be quick depending on what your planning on doing
to be perfectly honest i have nothing against any car, i'll happily drive anything with 4 wheels, and the occasional 3. i just love seeing excuses people give when i decide to bait them, and the fact to fanboy ratio. i found that americans throw a shit-fit if anything bad is said about chevrolet. someone verbally tore my head off when i mentioned that the current gen camaro was designed in australia using our VE commodore platform which is a fact, and the fact ls9 was an australian custom motor
@AutoBahnForever I've been to the 'Ring and been on a few "runs," and I loved every second of it, even when I was following the speed limits. He's Norwegian so who knows what his problem is. He's probably gone snow blind, and given up on being a productive member of humanity.
The Atom has no airbags, doors, trunk, nothing. My point is that it isn't a conventional car. And yes, Gumpert is bankrupt as of last year, so now you know. If you want to actually buy something with doors, airbags, a roof, windshield... Vette and GTR are the two fastest. Everything else costs 200k+ to achieve the same results. Also, Vette's cost 300k because you need to convert them to RHD in Australia. That's a law in Australia. Its cheaper in other countries as an import.
So in conclusion the newest, fastest and more technologically advanced corvette beats the older, more primative less expensive corvettes, WOW would've never guessed -__-
@NakedSnakeBlGBOSS You do realize that there are 9 cars that have a faster lap time than the ZR1 don't you? Ferrari Enzo, Maserati MC12, ACR Viper, and the Gumpert apollo (7:11.5) I'm not sure if the rest are street legal, so I won't list them. But yeah :P
Ya. So the ZR1 and the GT and the Viper srt 10 ACR are considered world class supercars. The CTS-V, and the Boss 302 are considered world class sports cars.
It would be both arrogant and incorrect to say that American cars just showed up and had record setting runs for any class of automobile. Nurburgring is much more than a tourist attraction or a benchmark track..........it is very useful tool for adjustment and testing of various suspension / tire set ups and ......marketing. It is one of the most difficult tracks in the world to drive fast (this from several drivers I spoke to that tested Mitsubishi products there) It is engineers at play.
The CTS-V was the FIRST sedan to beat the 8 minute mark, and that is fact. Perhaps MB/BMW/Audi can't beat this time? Perhaps MB/BMW/Audi don't feel like spending the money to do lap testing, because they know they won't be able to charge an extra fee simply because of a 'Ring lap. MB/BMW/Audi are extremely well known to over charge for their products, and are only concerned with profit margins. GM cares about proving it's performance, and offering a fair price for it.
Actually, they are classified as MOTORCYCLES in the USA because they don't have safety equipment like normal cars. Radicals are also a bitch to register just like the Ariel Atom. Gumpert went bankrupt recently, so basically the Vette is the best deal around, and the only one that's a real car and on sale today.
@fesch03 Call me a skeptic but I still have alot of trouble believing that's enough. Even experienced racers need time to get adjusted to new race cars, even when running circuit schedules that haven't changed much.
@MrCodPiece Sure he would be faster if had more time to drive the car on the Nordschleife but the times still are pretty fast. But they just dont have that time. Btw. i love Corvettes and especially the ZR1. A friend took me for a spin in his 09' C6 had the time of my life.
@MrCodPiece They drive the car beforehand on the Hockenheimring and on public roads. Time for a car magazine on the Nordschleife is limited. The driver has years of Nordschleife experience so the he can get a good feel for the car in the first lap and push the car to its limits on the next. It makes time representative and comparable unlike the times by manufacturers.
I could've bought a Turbo Elise if I wanted one, and the dealer actually had a few Lotus sitting around. I didn't want anything to do with those pieces of crap though. I could've gone out and gotten a C5 Z06 if I wanted one of those too. You're comparing the smallest category of a manufacturer owned by a parent group to the entire sales of a manufacturer privately owned? Seems legit dude...lol. How bout the numbers at Nurburgring? A Cobalt SS would stomp that Elise
Why is the 505 hp Vette so much better than the 600 hp Viper? I don't get it. In every review that I watch, Corvette get beaten by the Viper, but still comes out as the winner.!?
I don't know. I could be wrong. But, in my opinion, the difference is in driving. The Viper is a beast to manage. The Corvette is more fun, forgiving and easier to live with.
+Arya Ahmadi I own a zr1 one of the fastest vettes ever but the new viper is lighter faster and a better track car the reason why is the vette is more of an everyday car its easier to drive and more comfortable I love both honestly.
+Arya Ahmadi it just comes down to track car vs Daily driver.....the corvette is more livable then the viper....the viper put down better numbers but that doesn't matter I'm the real world.... BTW I love the viper and I'd never pick a corvette over it
@Janusha They aren't claiming any records with the ZL1. They're just proving that a $55k car built by GM can win running hot laps at a track that impresses anyone with a brain. Ferrari's run were the Enzo, 458 Italia, 430 Scuderia, 599 GTB to name a few. Lamborghinis LP 570, LP 670, All the older ones after Diablo. Masserati, Pagani, Radical, McLaren, Porsche, Lexus, BMW, everyone. Get over it.
@MrBriggsie , You might want to throw in the fact that every sports car in the world is compaired to the corvette, American cars Junk? Cheeck out the maintance schedules and the price of them compaired to the vette , I'm a happy zo6 owner since 2002 ...........
i'm just fucking tired about all this comments about the ring and wich car looks better or go faster, all cars are awesome in their different ways: American cars: good looking, incredible power and very fun to drive. British cars: elegant, luxurious and also sporty. German cars: sophisticated, powerful and race oriented. Japanese cars: very technological, and propper design. So stop blaming cars, if you don't like them don't watch their videos, simple right? (sorry for this long comment)
Just because you're inept at research, doesn't mean everyone else is. I was easily capable of finding a number of pictures of the interior of the CTS-V lapping the the 'Ring. Maybe when you're old enough to get a vehicle yourself you'll do some real research, and find that everyone has been calling the M class BMW's the "ultimate driving machine" for DECADES..and no one really argues it, because the cars drive on a fucking rail.
Believe what ever you wish........I was present and watched them,............have you been there ? Whether they announce the results of their run is their business, not mine. If you were a company that sold supercars in the 200 to 300k range and cars priced near 100k had faster times...........would you be forthcoming with circuit times ? Nein.
@ivantnt26 Under that line of thinking, there are no "muscle cars" any more. The Corvette, Viper, Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger can all handle at a high level. Plus, the old "muscle cars" could handle as well. If properly maintained they still can. In most cases, all one needs to do is nothing more than swap rubber bushings for urethane and use modern tires.
@TheBulldawg4life ....Yes I am not sure what the American myth and Nurburgring hating things are..........I lived in Germany and I can assure you the Nurburgring is an important place of pride for all car loving Germans. It is a benchmarking track no matter what the uniformed spew.
@NakedSnakeBlGBOSS You shouldnt care so much about Nordschleife times by different drivers under different conditions. Here are some SportAuto (German magazine) times for you, same driver, one introduction lap and one fast lap, no day after day practice. Corvette ZR1: 7.38 Gumpert Apollo: 7.24 Porsche Carrera GT: 7.32 Nissan GTR: 7.38 Ferrari F430 Scuderia: 7.39 Porsche GT3RS 7.33 Mercedes SLS 7.40 Zonda F 7.33
@Janusha .............Winning races and low times at Nurburgring speak for themselves. That is with a 100k retail car. Cadillac CTS V.....Fisker Karma. Chevy Volt's technology also would qualify but it is a mainstream sedan with generic styling. GM's Magnetic shock technology is licensed out to Mercedes and Ferrari.........and is the quickest reacting & best handling suspension system in the world (by many times)........you may have old information on current American technology.
Wow guys. Come on put some new tires on the C5 Z06. Could of been a great video.
Yep still rocking the C5Z and still showing those 5.0s and 392s the old school tail lights. And includes the unique nostalgic look since there's barely any of them on the road anymore so people don't even know what it is since most of the C5s on the road are the hatchbacks.
It’s amazing even though the c5 z06 had shot tires it made those numbers. With good tires I bet it would have gone faster than the grand sport. The c5 it’s stupid light.
It's heavier than the c6
@@mikael4126 it isn’t.
Holding back the C5 - WTF!
Question about the C5 Z06. Were those fairly new tires because I am surprised that you would say a track tuned car such as the C5 Z06 would be sliding all over the track with marginal grip unless it was fitted with marginal tires.
4.2 to 60 in the 2011 z06? You need to get a driver mod!
C5 had tires that were shot, how can you even compare it when you admitted the tires were shot.
It's truly amazing how American cars have evolved from being straight line performance lugnuts to world class sports cars and supercars. Man it's good to be an American.
"STILL GOT MOTOR"... lame. do a real test with tires and then when u upload it, if the video says "this isn't really a comparison test" then do not put "comparison test" as the title...
@GhostCell07 The engine is actually lighter than most engines with the same output and far less prone to failure. Most people think that a smaller engine is going to be lighter. But to build it to output like a bigger engine, the reinforcement and add-ons like turbos and intercoolers nullifies the weight advantage pretty easily.
Bought a new 2019 Corvette Grand Sport, with a MANUAL TRANSMISSION, and it’s a great car! Huge power, fantastic handling, and with the magnetic ride control, the car goes from track stiff to cruising smooth in an instant. My wife even asks when we can go for drives in the Corvette Grand Sport, and that rarely happens with my NSX. Buy one, if at all possible, life is short.
so a c5 Zo6 is just as fast as a c6 Grand Sport?
We're going to test these cars to see which is faster. The car I don't like will be driven on 4 temporary spare tires, for science. Given how close the C5 Z06 was to the C6 GS in handling even with cardboard tires, it might have shown up the fancy GS had it been wearing fresh rubber. We can't have that, can we?
New Z06, ZR1, 911 Turbo, 911 GT2. This is the comparison test that needs to be!
@Carfreak1177 They don't have it here because it's a bit old news. The Carbon and Grand Sport are brand new. (I don't understand the '02 Z06)
I saw a test on a magazine where that Z06 Carbon beats the GTR in braking and 1/4 mile times and the slamon. Now 2 vettes are beating the GTR. They cant complain about price anymore!
My choice is the Grand Sport. 436 horsepower is more than enough for me and the spine-tingling baritone snarl of the LS3 is worth what you end up paying for this car.
well those new supercar f1 G.2 tires and magnetic ride control will be available on the 2011 corvette grand sport as well.
i'm a Ford guy, but it's impossible for me NOT to like a Corvette!! These cars ROCK!!
Mr. Walton, you definitely needed to check the tires before entering the track. If you need tires, get tires. Also, it seems that you needed to practice throttle control if you were going to talk about the cars lack of track traction. Know when and how to properly apply throttle after you have gone through the apex. Specially in a car as torque happy as a Corvette. Knowing how do that is something I learned the hard way myself, and if you are to properly report then you must learn it too.
Put new tires on it jesus lol.
I don't see why an American would care. Holden is a GM company.
The LS9 is based on a Custom motor? The LS series of motors started as a basic design by Ed Cole in the mid 1950's....but it saw life in a car for the first time in 1997 I believe. So the LS design is very old on paper. The LS9 is an LS3 base.
So to say it's an Australian design would be stretching.
A lot of people are sick of the bias against American cars, the Corvette more than any other. It's more than earned it's respect.
Actually, the 2002 Z06 could hit 60 mph in 3.9 sec (chevrolet claim), do the quarter mile in 12.2 sec @ 116mph (mag tests), pull over 1G on the skidpad (chevrolet claim, numerous tests) with GOOD TIRES. It also ran around the Nurburgring in 7:56, driven by Dave Hill. That's only 13 seconds slower than the C6 Z06's time, on a 12 mile road course. So don't sleep on the C5 Z, she's still a beast! lol
i just thought of a really good comparison that some car mag should do
corvette zr1 vs viper acr 1.33 edition
Edmunds can’t afford tires?! Lame.
Wow, Z06 should be hitting mid-low 3's 0-60. Then again, they did say it was a "prototype". Lightweight carbon LS7 with magnetic shocks, I can't wait to see what that thing can do on a race track!
The Radical and the Gumpert Apollo are pretty much street legal race cars. I put them in the same category as the Ultima GTR. Notice though, that cars that actually compare to the Corvette and the Viper... (Nissan GTR, Porsche's, Ferraris, Pagini Zonda, Lamborghini's, etc., are all slower at the ring.
Ya shoulda thought about the tires before taking the '02 out. I'd like to see the numbers with new tires.
@Nick1944 If I'm not mistaken there were some folks in a '02 Z06 that went high 11's.Bone stock that is.
For the price, I'd take the 02... but with newer tires!
Here is the current list of non benchmarking autos driving around for the tourists. Seems to be very short of certain makes.
1. Radical SR8LM 6:48.00
2. Radical SR8 6:55.00
3. Gumpert Apollo Speed 7:11.57
4. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 7:12.13
5. Lexus LFA Nurburgring Package 7:14.64
6. Donkervoort D8 RS 7:14.89
7. Porsche 911 GT2 RS 7:18.00
8. Radical SR3 Turbo 7:19.00
9. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 7:19.63
10. Nissan GT-R 7:21.00
11. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 7:22.68
i'm surprised why they both aren't still going
The new Carbon Z06 sounds far better than the previous one. It sounds almost as good as the ZR1.
So if people aren't considering it a muscle car, but a sports car that's almost a super car... I don't see why people just don't call it a sub-supercar like the Lotus lineup and they're mostly about handling an acceleration. The C6 gen got the handling down, has more speed, and just about everything else.
ive heard the gumpert is surprisingly tame if driven on road
@Janusha You're right...it's insane to think that American cars only NOW showed up to the 'Ring.
an extra $25k because it lapped the 'Ring under 8 minutes. To those companies the only thing that matters is if they can make money, and running at the 'Ring doesn't make you money. No one that is already thinking about over-paying for a BMW/Audi/MB is actually concerned about the performance, because they'll never drive it to the limit. They want it to look pretty, and run without problems.
Did he say the Z06 Carbon has magnetic ride control?
its because they shifted early.
the c6 z06 does 0-60 in first gear, but they tried to do it in second.
does production vehicle mean something different in america? because where i come from it means a car built by a factory
@Janusha ............OK. I lived there and you read it. Perhaps things there have changed since 2005 (when I was there last). When I was in Germany, there was a variety of interested parties (both factory and rich owners) that used this track to "benchmark" their cars against known competitive runs. The reason for this is the length of the track, the number and types of corners this track offers. A lot can be learned about a car at this facility. On the other hand, who cares ?
the z06 with the z07 package is probably the best corvette if your thinking about messing with the engine
sometimes I wisher I were a "vette guy" ... they are pretty cool and definitely good performers
Chris Walton is porsche fanatic so you know that's why they didn't spend the 1250.00 dollars for a new set of tires for the 2002 corvette z06 are tell tire rack to loan them a set that is really crazy taking a sports car on a track with bald are bad tires.
i love to see that C5Z got own!
12 years later you’re still an idiot
@xioxio38 the new ones arent muscle cars, but more like slow super cars or very fast sports cars
couldnt do a zr1 also?
@desertfox1792 thats the whole point makes it easier to drive it was built to corner!
Im not sure bout this guy. I think the 02 ZO6 had much more potential than what they showed here. It seems like the intentional didnt put the right tires on it so it wouldnt perform like it should. I love all these Vettes. But I also think the numbers are off. Better driver perhaps?
I would like to see what the '02 Z06 would do with the tires that are on the prototype Z06. And if you hate Corvettes of any kind then you shouldn't be watching this video!
@93foxwcubes depends really if your planning on racing it or what c5 is cool but cant handle as much power as an ls2 but depends on what you like c6 looks more modern and nicer but its heavier c5 is is about 200 pounds lighter but has the potential too be quick depending on what your planning on doing
Why even have the c5 there if the tires are no good?
Stock exhaust?
to be perfectly honest i have nothing against any car, i'll happily drive anything with 4 wheels, and the occasional 3. i just love seeing excuses people give when i decide to bait them, and the fact to fanboy ratio. i found that americans throw a shit-fit if anything bad is said about chevrolet. someone verbally tore my head off when i mentioned that the current gen camaro was designed in australia using our VE commodore platform which is a fact, and the fact ls9 was an australian custom motor
@AutoBahnForever I've been to the 'Ring and been on a few "runs," and I loved every second of it, even when I was following the speed limits. He's Norwegian so who knows what his problem is. He's probably gone snow blind, and given up on being a productive member of humanity.
The Atom has no airbags, doors, trunk, nothing. My point is that it isn't a conventional car. And yes, Gumpert is bankrupt as of last year, so now you know. If you want to actually buy something with doors, airbags, a roof, windshield... Vette and GTR are the two fastest. Everything else costs 200k+ to achieve the same results. Also, Vette's cost 300k because you need to convert them to RHD in Australia. That's a law in Australia. Its cheaper in other countries as an import.
@rocketballa4life Plenty of parts in Corvettes haven't changed over time which is why for example ZR1 costs 100k and not 200k.
whats the horsepower in ZO6 Carbon ?
So in conclusion the newest, fastest and more technologically advanced corvette beats the older, more primative less expensive corvettes, WOW would've never guessed -__-
A C5Z would do 0-60 in 3.9 on good tires.
@NakedSnakeBlGBOSS You do realize that there are 9 cars that have a faster lap time than the ZR1 don't you? Ferrari Enzo, Maserati MC12, ACR Viper, and the Gumpert apollo (7:11.5) I'm not sure if the rest are street legal, so I won't list them. But yeah :P
0-60 numbers will always be subjective and vary more times than not especially with different drivers but these numbers seemed especially off
@drjustinjohnson the sound of a car is like half of what makes it awesome
Ya. So the ZR1 and the GT and the Viper srt 10 ACR are considered world class supercars. The CTS-V, and the Boss 302 are considered world class sports cars.
It would be both arrogant and incorrect to say that American cars just showed up and had record setting runs for any class of automobile.
Nurburgring is much more than a tourist attraction or a benchmark track..........it is very useful tool for adjustment and testing of various suspension / tire set ups and ......marketing.
It is one of the most difficult tracks in the world to drive fast (this from several drivers I spoke to that tested Mitsubishi products there)
It is engineers at play.
Tire rack advertised tires before I watched this video.
look at him when he was on the zo6 ... his face says it all
@youlance29 Look back at the comments, and look around on youtube.
Just realized i replied to Mia1shotter... I meant to post as a comment. I totally agree with you.
The CTS-V was the FIRST sedan to beat the 8 minute mark, and that is fact. Perhaps MB/BMW/Audi can't beat this time? Perhaps MB/BMW/Audi don't feel like spending the money to do lap testing, because they know they won't be able to charge an extra fee simply because of a 'Ring lap. MB/BMW/Audi are extremely well known to over charge for their products, and are only concerned with profit margins. GM cares about proving it's performance, and offering a fair price for it.
@yankeesluva hes talking about the sound of the exhuast
Actually, they are classified as MOTORCYCLES in the USA because they don't have safety equipment like normal cars. Radicals are also a bitch to register just like the Ariel Atom. Gumpert went bankrupt recently, so basically the Vette is the best deal around, and the only one that's a real car and on sale today.
@fesch03
Call me a skeptic but I still have alot of trouble believing that's enough. Even experienced racers need time to get adjusted to new race cars, even when running circuit schedules that haven't changed much.
Click SHOW COMMENT, for a long ass conversation. LMAO
@MrCodPiece
Sure he would be faster if had more time to drive the car on the Nordschleife but the times still are pretty fast. But they just dont have that time. Btw. i love Corvettes and especially the ZR1. A friend took me for a spin in his 09' C6 had the time of my life.
@MrCodPiece
They drive the car beforehand on the Hockenheimring and on public roads. Time for a car magazine on the Nordschleife is limited. The driver has years of Nordschleife experience so the he can get a good feel for the car in the first lap and push the car to its limits on the next. It makes time representative and comparable unlike the times by manufacturers.
wat about the zr1??????????????
This video idea had the makings of being one of the greatest video comparisons ever had it not of been for bald tires. Really?
@revolutionday1 yea i like them better on the old models but its a grandsport thing. I think it would look better if they were black not white.
Can’t believe the c5 zo6 is virtually just as fast
i think they didnt change the tires on purpose as to not put the Grand Sport to shame. Z06 is the shit.
He says he has pictures, if we are lucky even some video.......
I will be looking out for the "US Cars suck on the Nurburgring" post.
point being what exactly?
I wish they had new tires on the old z06
I could've bought a Turbo Elise if I wanted one, and the dealer actually had a few Lotus sitting around. I didn't want anything to do with those pieces of crap though. I could've gone out and gotten a C5 Z06 if I wanted one of those too. You're comparing the smallest category of a manufacturer owned by a parent group to the entire sales of a manufacturer privately owned? Seems legit dude...lol.
How bout the numbers at Nurburgring? A Cobalt SS would stomp that Elise
I LOVE THIS CAR! ! ! ! !
@Schalk3 they could have used the damn launch control
Why is the 505 hp Vette so much better than the 600 hp Viper? I don't get it. In every review that I watch, Corvette get beaten by the Viper, but still comes out as the winner.!?
I don't know. I could be wrong. But, in my opinion, the difference is in driving. The Viper is a beast to manage. The Corvette is more fun, forgiving and easier to live with.
+Arya Ahmadi I own a zr1 one of the fastest vettes ever but the new viper is lighter faster and a better track car the reason why is the vette is more of an everyday car its easier to drive and more comfortable I love both honestly.
+DustinCorvetteZr1 I agree with you on the new Viper but I was talking about the previous generation (SRT-10) Viper.
+Arya Ahmadi it just comes down to track car vs Daily driver.....the corvette is more livable then the viper....the viper put down better numbers but that doesn't matter I'm the real world.... BTW I love the viper and I'd never pick a corvette over it
@Janusha They aren't claiming any records with the ZL1. They're just proving that a $55k car built by GM can win running hot laps at a track that impresses anyone with a brain. Ferrari's run were the Enzo, 458 Italia, 430 Scuderia, 599 GTB to name a few. Lamborghinis LP 570, LP 670, All the older ones after Diablo. Masserati, Pagani, Radical, McLaren, Porsche, Lexus, BMW, everyone. Get over it.
@MrBriggsie , You might want to throw in the fact that every sports car in the world is compaired to the corvette, American cars Junk? Cheeck out the maintance schedules and the price of them compaired to the vette , I'm a happy zo6 owner since 2002 ...........
i'm just fucking tired about all this comments about the ring and wich car looks better or go faster, all cars are awesome in their different ways:
American cars: good looking, incredible power and very fun to drive.
British cars: elegant, luxurious and also sporty.
German cars: sophisticated, powerful and race oriented.
Japanese cars: very technological, and propper design.
So stop blaming cars, if you don't like them don't watch their videos, simple right?
(sorry for this long comment)
Someone can't do 0-60's...
stock tires suck on the c5z. Good tires that car is solid.
Missing the ZR1
Just because you're inept at research, doesn't mean everyone else is. I was easily capable of finding a number of pictures of the interior of the CTS-V lapping the the 'Ring. Maybe when you're old enough to get a vehicle yourself you'll do some real research, and find that everyone has been calling the M class BMW's the "ultimate driving machine" for DECADES..and no one really argues it, because the cars drive on a fucking rail.
Believe what ever you wish........I was present and watched them,............have you been there ? Whether they announce the results of their run is their business, not mine. If you were a company that sold supercars in the 200 to 300k range and cars priced near 100k had faster times...........would you be forthcoming with circuit times ? Nein.
@ivantnt26 Under that line of thinking, there are no "muscle cars" any more. The Corvette, Viper, Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger can all handle at a high level. Plus, the old "muscle cars" could handle as well. If properly maintained they still can. In most cases, all one needs to do is nothing more than swap rubber bushings for urethane and use modern tires.
Call the cops because the C5 was robbed in this video.
@TheBulldawg4life ....Yes I am not sure what the American myth and Nurburgring hating things are..........I lived in Germany and I can assure you the Nurburgring is an important place of pride for all car loving Germans. It is a benchmarking track no matter what the uniformed spew.
@NakedSnakeBlGBOSS
You shouldnt care so much about Nordschleife times by different drivers under different conditions. Here are some SportAuto (German magazine) times for you, same driver, one introduction lap and one fast lap, no day after day practice.
Corvette ZR1: 7.38
Gumpert Apollo: 7.24
Porsche Carrera GT: 7.32
Nissan GTR: 7.38
Ferrari F430 Scuderia: 7.39
Porsche GT3RS 7.33
Mercedes SLS 7.40
Zonda F 7.33
@Janusha .............Winning races and low times at Nurburgring speak for themselves. That is with a 100k retail car.
Cadillac CTS V.....Fisker Karma. Chevy Volt's technology also would qualify but it is a mainstream sedan with generic styling. GM's Magnetic shock technology is licensed out to Mercedes and Ferrari.........and is the quickest reacting & best handling suspension system in the world (by many times)........you may have old information on current American technology.