This was a great promotional sales pitch video for Origin....bravo, and unlike nearly every one of your other reviews, there is a deliberate evasion of mentioning the cost. Basically, "take one for the team" and buy Amerikan, even if it costs more for less! I've had a pair of these boots on my bench and from my cynical view, they are deliberately constructed in a manner in which a resole is going to be a PITA, which equals $$$. Since there isn't a genuine midsole--the "midsole" is actually the footbed--replacing the outsole requires prepping the footbed to accept the new outsole, typically by sanding, which must be done without damaging the blake stitches. Furthermore, in order to properly re-sew the stitchdown area--in a manner which won't create new holes in the upper--that area must be hand-stitched. Even one of the greatest master cobblers on RUclips wasn't able to hit all of the holes on a Danner rebuild, and as you are aware, without a Goodyear welt to be replaced, those holes become a permanent Achillies heel in the upper. So a new re-sole requires part of the work on a McKay, and the balance must be hand-sewn. For a $330 boot, a $225-$250 re-sole is approaching that point that most customers will opt for buying a new boot. Well-played, Origin, well-played. Incidentally, there's no mention of a factory rebuild option, either. Aside from the rhetorical blather about buying in the US, these boots need at least need a midsole and a shank. Try climbing a ladder or standing on a pair of leg spikes without a shank and you'll discover immediately why a shank is needed; that shouldn't even have been an issue.
The cost is on their website and he said it was a $250 boot constructed somewhere else so anyone with half a brain can tell there’s a 50% premium buying an American made boot. Not rocket science. And 90% of the people wearing these aren’t getting them for hard use work boots and climbing ladders all day. If buying something made in the US and keeping ur money here is just “rhetorical blather” to you then just don’t buy them. But again there are tons of people here that prefer buying stuff made here and are willing to pay extra for it so u just kinda sound like an America hater or something trying to dis people that like supporting American companies.
@@jca66 By not going easy on something that's sent in by an advertiser or by advertising something that is truly good. Just after reading comments or looking around online you can tell that the boots are not nearly as good as he makes them seem in the video...
All the other product review channels find a way, and RA has as well. Reviewing the sponsors product is just cringe. I am still going to watch his videos; but, his cred score with me dropped a little. @@jca66
I agree the jeans are nice, but they need to make sizes down to 28" waist. The stretch material makes these too big for me and I can't send them back since I tried to see if they would shrink with washing and drying. They didn't. For now they are my winter jeans when I need to wear a layer under. The boots are nice but agree with the changes that could be made. I also don't like the blake stitch in the back. It looks like too much water and snow could get in there. The new gusseted tongue was uncomfortable for my foot because of the thick leather used. Other boots companies use different methods and materials to help with that fold. I appreciate what they are doing though and hope they continue. For now I have been looking at the JK 300 line of boots.
I found the denim material too stretchy for my liking. I can see the appeal of why someone else might enjoy them, but for the money - they just weren't to my liking.
@@ahhmeeb9354 Yeah thats fair. I would buy pacific northwest for now until they perfect their boots. agree the blake stitch might let water in eventually.
I love what these guys are doing, and fully support it. That said, this video really feels like an influencer video and not an independent video. It felt like you took all the company bullet points and tried to shoehorn (pun intended) them into product ties. It’s made to be athletic, like jujitsu. It’s steeped in the history of Maine in these ways…..you do a good job of breaking down construction, don’t let companies change what you do.
Yeah he said the boots were provided by them, that they sponsored the video and that he's very biased towards companies like this that try and source all materials from the US, like come on.
10:47 "When businesses are all about making money, a lot of times the ethics and those values take a second seat to the money". Ironic considering the amount of sponsored videos and weaker content as of late?
I hope you’re very selective about which sponsors you work with. You don’t want to ruin your credibility in this space. It takes years to grow it, but only a day to ruin it. I really appreciate your knowledge! Thanks!
I love and have subscribed to this channel. But I totally agree with you. They simply should not be doing these "the sponsor of this video is origin" and "in this video we will look at origin boots" type reviews. It muddies the waters in too many ways to name.
@@toddchapman9038bingo. He can have sponsored videos, but just space them out a little and give it a format other than the literal testing. He’s already done this boot, so just interview the people and let them tell the story. Or give some away on another video. But you have to be so clear that you aren’t putting out puff pieces, beyond just saying it. Then people also worry about the brand relationship affecting the top 5 videos and such.
They pay him 20k for these commercials. They're a bargain compared to TV airtime but at the end of the day this is just advertising. Best to just watch his videos on mute then you can form a proper opinion.
After Chippewa stopped making the apache boot, it took me two years to find Origin as a replacement boot. So far they are holding up well, they had a huge sale on Black Friday, $100+ off. So I bought 5 pairs, in case they suddenly stopped making them like Chippewa.
When somebody can afford to discount something by a hundred dollars.... It makes me kinda wonder how much margin they've got. I'm glad you're happy with the boots!
I wanted to like Origin. Bought a pair. Stitch failed after 1 month. Contacted the company and it took the more than a month to even get back to me. I had them repaired locally because I got tired of waiting. A year later the footbed is totally collapsed. They’re unwearable. Do. Not. Buy.
As much as I love buying Made in USA, I just can't get behind these. To start, I think they are really ugly. More importantly though, these are nearly completely synthetic. I just don't see the upside. There are so many options from other companies that have a high "Made in USA" percentage of components. Thursday has a made in USA collection for far less money than these, or anything from White's, Nick's, or JK. You also have brands like Truman Boot Co. And Oak Street Bootmakers. There's too much competition to justify the $330 price with nearly all synthetic materials.
@@danc5677 People are naive and will take this as an honest product review. It's not. It's bought and paid. Even Rose Anvil is capable of selling you on something. He is not the second coming of leather boot Christ...
@@GOD999MODE never said he was the second coming of leather Christ whatever that means. You do realise you can have a sponsored video AND for it to be honest. The two aren't mutually exclusive although you seem to think they are If you really feel like you've been hard done by watching all this free content then don't watch it and engage with it lol
@@danc5677 Don't know what you're arguing about, but just something to note so that people don't mistake it for a regular review. And no, it can't be fully honest since they're literally paying you to say good things about it.
These center cut scores feel inflated🧐 Love the videos and appreciate the knowledge you pass on. I feel so informed on what I want and need out of my work boots. So much wasted money and foot pain could have been avoided.
I have a pair of these with the wedge soles, and I would 100% buy them again. The leather is very nice quality, and the boots are very comfortable. I agree with you that two nice additions would be speed hooks, and a shank on the non wedge sole versions. I would like to grab a pair of these with the big lug soles, but won’t purchase them until they add a shank to that version. Until then I’ll stick to me wedge soles and be happy.
Cannot justify the full price given internal materials. Red Wing heritage boots are built better with better materials. Truman Boots as well. Surprised you did not slam them like others with similar internals.
wow you are doing a full featured paid ADvertisement huh. sponsor is one thing. liking them is another. Doing what feels like a full Ad is off putting.
I love my Origin boots. More than the 2 pairs of JKs I have. The main reason I bought the Origin boots was their so much emphasis on "America". The same reason I bought my first pair of JK. The Origin boots turned out to be way better than I expected.
Weston, gotta be honest. After watching sponsored reviews vs. non sponsored, I can’t watch your videos anymore. I don’t come to listen to you bloviate empty praise for a sponsored product. I come for an honest review. Because you can’t seem to have an unbiased opinion when youre being paid, I don’t trust your reviews for the paid or unpaid versions. Loved your content but you gotta tighten up.
I'Ve seen these advertised for awhile, I looked at the construction and am going to wait for a few upgrades on the boot. I do support the Ideology of the company and hope for the best for ORIGIN.
About manufacturing in the USA. The NPR program The Color Money did an article a few years ago tracking the complete production process of t-shirt for their show. They started with the cotton grower in the south Mississippi or Louisiana. Because there no mills in the US, the raw cotton then went to Pakistan (I think) then the fabric went to Colombia. I cannot recall if that was to be dyed or cut. But only then did it come back to the US to be finished. We have lost a lot of our manufacturing capabilities and need to bring them back. I understand globalization, but there is something to be said for being able to be self sufficient.
Origin has a youtube channel where they walk through the whole production line. I know they make their Gi fabric in house and I think they might do their t-shirts as well. They source their denim from a mill in georgia.
I have bought a lot of camo and clothing from Origin - but I have wanted to wait a while longer before buying boots from them. I’ve loved their camo and clothing.
I care more about the dollar per value then if it’s made in America I’ve bought a bunch of stuff made in America, thinking it would be better and it ends up being trash
Would love to see a review of the Thursday Vanguard (not the Logger) made in the USA along with a breakdown of how much USA sourced components they use.
Thanks for doing a second video on Origin and their boots. I just received my Buffalo big lug boots in black. I frigging love them! I love wearing them despite the leather still being stiff and needing more break in. As well I've never had a pair that not only felr as cool as they do but when looking down at them they are to me some of the most aesthetically pleasing. I've only.had mine for about 2 weeks and I think they are totally worth it. Especially if you get a black Friday season sale :) I will say living in Germany I got royally 'efft' when I had to pay their government import tax if 155.50 euros. That's on top of the 48 dollars I had to pay for shipping and handling. The import tax was calculated after the boots were processed in customs. Otherwise I would have waited to buy them or just stuck with my Thursday Diplomats. I m happy at least that the purchase price of the boots and the awesome jeans I also bought from Origin went to supporting true American made and sourced product and workers. God Bless the USA! She needs our love and support. Great review!
Not US, but UK. I don't need convincing, but Altberg boots, especially the military ones are the best I have ever had, and a lot less expensive than many on here, so I feel you'd be impressed if you ever got your hands on a pair.
A year or so ago I decided to put my money where my mouth was and pony up for some origin coronados. They actually have factory seconds you can buy on their "factory outlet" for a fair bit cheaper than normal; I think I got mine for 200 or 250 at the time. All in all, I think they're fine. I got the mini lug so i don't notice the lack of a shank and the model I recieved actually has screws in the front of the sole near the toes. For being factory seconds I can't see much wrong with them at all. They're certainly not work boots meant to kicked around on an oil derrick or anything but I didn't buy them for that. I bought them to support US manufacturing and to buy something that would conform to my foot better than some of the ten-inches-of-leather boots people buy. I actually had a friend who bought iron rangers and always complains that they feel like wood under his feet even a few years on so I guess it all comes down to different strokes for different folks. They work for me as a casual to light use boot -- I'm sure their built boots are more serious -- and I've grown to like their looks. I'm sure the company has it's issues and the video was a bit more of an advertisement than I expected from this channel but the negative nancies in the comments section are disheartening. True to a fair extent but disheartening all the same, especially the political BS.
I want all your suggested improvements and I'd really like a slightly sleeker toebox. Love the made in US spirit. Production capability and quality is something America needs to take real pride in again.
I love mine. When I got my first pair in and wore them for a week I went and ordered another pair in the slate color. The whiskey brown is their best color imo.
I purchased the flat sole Coronado in brown......shipped to Canada with no issues.....used them for around 4 months now........the overall finish is still good.....scratch and scuff easy......but also easy to clean up quick......they are way more comfortable now than before break in..... definitely the most agile boot of all the top brand styles.....the profile looks better with more styles of clothing than any of the top brands also. So if they don't fall apart on me from a cheap failure in the wild.....seems like the best boot in the price range....worth the money 👍
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t the “work boot” version fix a couple of the issues you have ? I was looking at them awhile back and couldn’t find any reviews on that specific model to see if it’s worth the price
In the name of art the back panel is cut to come to a point on the sidewall of the boot...I may be wrong but I would think that over a relatively short period of time it will get caught and come loose or get wrecked if doing anything but walking the grocery store or shoveling snow.
You seem to be doing ads instead of reviews a lot lately. I am beginning to question your credibility. You would destroy another company for this quality at this point, but you are giving them a pass. This is the second or third straight up ad I have seen on your channel on the last few weeks.
Does Vibram make outsoles in the USA? They have research, testing and "creative" facilities in the USA but don't seem to list manufacturing. And if I'm wrong and they do manufacture soles in Boston (they describe it as a design and "maker space"), I'm pretty sure that Vibram sell soles to many other USA boot manufacturers as otherwise the factory is not going to be commercially viable. Regarding the materials used, I'm pretty sure that Thursday with the Vanguard boot claim that they use all USA made materials including even sourcing the Poron foam from a USA manufacturer. Regardless, it seems to be a marketing gimmick to source every last component from the US in a globalised world and perhaps it would be more useful to the US economy to make sure that the manufacturing facilities use American made machines, the office furniture, air conditioning, electrical supply, flooring and so forth are American made rather than worrying about the thread, nails and glue production.
I was just watching this second review of Origin boots thinking, "I'm going to buy a pair!" And then I started reading these comments. One after another, after another of poor experiences and poor quality. It is really, really unfortunate, I hope they get their act together. They got a really cool product, but it sounds like they're having problems with execution. Fingers crossed, I'll check back in a year.
I know you can't buy them now but my Danner Combat Hikers were Berry compliant and as far as i know that means they're pretty damn made in USA. They've been GREAT boots for me for like 15+ years. Only real downside is they're not resoleable and are about worn out now so idk what I'll get next. I'll never beat the deal I got on these... $50 from danner directly back in the day when they had back room online deals. I know the combat hikers got shit online but for me in the rocky woodland terrain I hike and camp they were ideal. Heavy, but ideal and obviously held up better than i ever thought.
The algorithm recommended your videos/channel to me. It's great stuff. I'm not a big boot wearer but love the way you break things down in all your videos. If you love USA made clothing, check out Duckworth, which is the ONLY 100% American merino wool company. From the sheep raised in Montana to the cutting, dyeing and finishing mills in the USA. I've got several of their stuff and it's amazing. I don't work for them, just a proud supporter. It's also not cheap..but it's priced the same or a very little more than what foreign made competitors charge.
I got these in wedge sole 8.5 D. They're really comfy. Theres suspension in that heel design, at least when they're still new. I should have ordered a 9 but realized too late. Giving them to my dad
Have been wearing my Origin Boots for close to 3 years now. Finally getting to resole time. They are absolutely form fitted to my foot and more comfortable for daily wear than my Nick's... nicks still win the day for heavier outdoor work and motorcycle rides, but for all day office wear and standing work in shop, Origin.
When the time arrives for the resole, please post the quote below. I have a fellow cobbler in Chicago that charges $350 for that job. I quoted my last customer $300 and he (understandably) declined.
Everything that exists has what's called a HS (or HTS) code. This is a 10-digit code used by customs (all over the world) to identify objects. The first 2 numbers determines the 'chapter' the item belongs to so, for instance, Chapter 64 refers to footwear. This is a different code than leather which you'd find under Chapter 41. Origin determination rules can be complex but generally speaking if something is imported under one Chapter and transformed into something that belongs to a different Chapter, like leather under 41 that becomes footwear under 64, then something was obviously 'made' and you can call it Made/Assembled in wherever that is.
I'd like to see you cut the Red Wing Work Chukka in half and see how that compares to the Classic Moc and Iron Ranger. I know they have a Weekender version that's more like the Chelsea you did, but I think the Work Chukka is more traditional Red Wing.
weekender chukka is still maybe my favorite shoe after like 7 years and a resole, and it really feels like a shoe. great casual shoe, but don't like the crepe outsole
Would definitely consider these boots with the addition of a shank. I've checked out their products before when looking for USA made, and will keep them on my list
I own a pair of these and they are my first pair of work or boots in general so I can’t really attest to how “athletic “ they feel because compared to Jordan’s or Nike runners they feel like I can stomp one’s brains out with em! But I love them as a work boot they keep my feet dry when I have to waddle through a little mud or water. They were however light enough for me to do hikes when I visited Colorado.
I wish they'd do a slip sole and I wish they'd replace the foam with actual leather. The removable insole is nice but I wish it just had leather under it for durability
Needs more structure. Good concept but boots still need higher standards for structure. A resole of these would almost definitively include changing the midsole
Hell yeah it's worth buying made in the USA. I live in the PNW and I have a pair of Nick's I use for hunting and deep snow. I was born and live in the USA. My money will always go to US workers because they are working to support their families as I am mine. Everything of late seems to try to divide us, but it's BS. If it has the made in the USA label, I'm in.
Like other commenters I’m disappointed with this video. You’ve built your brand by being very candid and unbiased about the build quality of various boots/shoes. The second you’re paid by a company to make a video “reviewing” their product your credibility disappears (regardless of how much you like the product/company). I hope you avoid these types of sponsorships in the future and focus more on building out your own brand/company. I bought one of your wallets a while back and really like it; I’d be much happier buying more things made by RA than some affiliate boot/shoe where your judgment is likely to be compromised.
I bought a pair and definitely not a work boot for the trades. Their “work boot” fell apart in less than six months. Stitching, inside toe liner, laces are trash, maybe a work boot if you work at a nail salon. Very disappointed. You should do reviews after a few months because the review would make me think these things are worth the money
Have you ever looked at Berry Amendment Compliant Boots? Berry Compliant means That not only do they HAVE to be made in USA, BUT all materials 100% SOURCED in the USA just like Origin does. Difference being that Berry Compliant is Strictly military gear and approved by the Department Of Defense. Would 100% take a look at Berry Complaint Boots. For they can back that claim as well
Berry compliant means little to anyone who has worn the issued boots the military gives you. Yes they are MIUSA but they could do a lot better at making comfortable boots. I will say though my flight deck boots from Belleville were pretty decent.
I've supported Origin with my wallet and I really like my Coronado boot for it's lighter more flexible feel made with a leather midsole unlike several much more expensive, non USA made boots. My only regret was choosing the mini lug sole as it limits the cushion under foot.
I love the idea of the Origin boots, but the lack of shank and lower arch profile had me go elsewhere. I am waiting for those changes or additions one day.
I have happily spent the extra money to buy their goods. I own several pairs of their GIs, their boots and jeans. Maybe it's mental, but the quality is superior to others. I also would love some speed hooks on the upper. The top 2 would be perfect, similar to the Jim Green African Rangers. Great video though, merry Christmas!
You have to be one of those kids who has timberlands to own these. Bottom of the barrel construction methods and materials. A sucker is born every minute i guess.
I have a pair of their Built boots. Kind of underwhelmed for a $400 pair of boots. The sole delaminated in about 3 weeks, the midsole squeaks against the leather, the laces aren’t long enough to use every eyelet, and they absolutely need another pair of lower speed hooks.
I have a pair of their bison boots, great quality and strongly support all boot and clothing manufacturers that are made in our country. Love your channel!!
It sounds like they've solved my complaints with their boots being roomier in the toe and adding the higher gusset on the tongue will keep the debris out better and not pinch my toes.
I have their work jeans, tee’s, and sweat shirts. I basically live in their work jeans. Their tops are great too. I waited until Black Friday to order their 8inch work boot. I have not received them yet. So the jury is still out. Can’t wait to work in them.
Can you please review Hoffman's Double Insulated package boots and/or Hoffman's Voyager pack boots? I think they are the best pac boots I ever had. Made in Kellogg, Idaho.
Would love it if you went through some of the motorcycle specific boots that are out now that look like red wings etc. brands like John Doe, Rokka, Merlin, Belstaff etc.
Hey man, There are only two brands that I've been wearing recently and would love your opinion. Onitsuka tiger and Krahu.. I have a few pairs from each company and the tiger's GSM is the best sneaker I've ever worn. I have abused that shoe and I can't find a single thing wrong with my pair. I really want to know if I'm not crazy and if not, then people deserve to know. I'm so sick of the same hype brands.
After watching your first video about Origin. I bought the pair in this video for work! I need a compost toe boot that was non slip that was quality. The rest of the top American boots packed steel toe.
Hi there, thanks for your reviews we can make a purchase with confidence, since Iam not going to be cutting my boots to get a new one. there is a Canadian brand called Oliberte that used to make boots in Africa and they shifted production to Canada instead. it would be awesome to get some boots under the knife.
I definitely prefer Made in USA even if it doesn’t mean it’s the best on the market. I just bought the Byron Boot by Rancourt & Co (won’t be here for a few months) and I’m sure there is better for the money but it’s supporting small town businesses; especially from Maine my home state. But I don’t shy away if another country has a culture of making a product, ex Mexico and cowboy boots.
When it comes boots I’m pretty much a Hiax guy, but I did buy a couple Origin hoodies because they were American made. Kinda hard to screw up a hoodie, and they are very nice. The heavy hoodie is very well made and warm. But this is a boot channel so after reading the reviews I’ll learn from others and keep my money until the reviews improve
Nah, businesses should exist for the benefit of their customers. These boots just don't appear to be a good value for the man or woman spending their hard earned dollars. They certainly don't seem like something I'd want to stand in for 60 hours a week.
Excellent video. Probably going to annoy some brands and end users by spotlighting how many “American made” boots aren’t what most people think they are. I’ve seen the same shenanigans in Japan where entire uppers are manufactured in China and Korea and then the soles are attached in Japan, and viola, they’re “Made in Japan.” Once enough customers start caring then these practices will stop.
My Origin boots are a little over a year old and I love them. I wear them everywhere except for work. I need steel toes for my work boots. The boots are holding up well and I will likely purchase another pair sometime in the future but I don't really expect to need a new pair anytime soon. I'm close to fully retiring and I'm not as rough on my boots at this age. I need a wide boot with a roomy toe box due to hardware holding my right foot together and I was apprehensive ordering online but I used their size chart and the boots arrived a perfect fit.
I don't know about Origin boots but their clothing is great. The jeans are amazing I had Joe's Jeans before and the Origins feels better constructed but just as comfortable.
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Diggin' that coat!
Too bad Joe Rogan wants Daddy's Boy Trump to be dictator. Not very American of either of you.
This was a great promotional sales pitch video for Origin....bravo, and unlike nearly every one of your other reviews, there is a deliberate evasion of mentioning the cost. Basically, "take one for the team" and buy Amerikan, even if it costs more for less!
I've had a pair of these boots on my bench and from my cynical view, they are deliberately constructed in a manner in which a resole is going to be a PITA, which equals $$$. Since there isn't a genuine midsole--the "midsole" is actually the footbed--replacing the outsole requires prepping the footbed to accept the new outsole, typically by sanding, which must be done without damaging the blake stitches. Furthermore, in order to properly re-sew the stitchdown area--in a manner which won't create new holes in the upper--that area must be hand-stitched. Even one of the greatest master cobblers on RUclips wasn't able to hit all of the holes on a Danner rebuild, and as you are aware, without a Goodyear welt to be replaced, those holes become a permanent Achillies heel in the upper. So a new re-sole requires part of the work on a McKay, and the balance must be hand-sewn. For a $330 boot, a $225-$250 re-sole is approaching that point that most customers will opt for buying a new boot. Well-played, Origin, well-played. Incidentally, there's no mention of a factory rebuild option, either.
Aside from the rhetorical blather about buying in the US, these boots need at least need a midsole and a shank. Try climbing a ladder or standing on a pair of leg spikes without a shank and you'll discover immediately why a shank is needed; that shouldn't even have been an issue.
Based, excellent take.
The safety toe version has a fiberglass shank
The cost is on their website and he said it was a $250 boot constructed somewhere else so anyone with half a brain can tell there’s a 50% premium buying an American made boot. Not rocket science. And 90% of the people wearing these aren’t getting them for hard use work boots and climbing ladders all day.
If buying something made in the US and keeping ur money here is just “rhetorical blather” to you then just don’t buy them. But again there are tons of people here that prefer buying stuff made here and are willing to pay extra for it so u just kinda sound like an America hater or something trying to dis people that like supporting American companies.
You make cool videos, but this one feels like an ad.
How should he pay for his videos then?
@@jca66 By not going easy on something that's sent in by an advertiser or by advertising something that is truly good. Just after reading comments or looking around online you can tell that the boots are not nearly as good as he makes them seem in the video...
All the other product review channels find a way, and RA has as well. Reviewing the sponsors product is just cringe. I am still going to watch his videos; but, his cred score with me dropped a little. @@jca66
@@jca66he could sell bullshit 'brain pills' like Rogan? Or maybe get hundreds of millions from his Dad, like Trump??
@@abelkamras166 People don't like Origin boots due to it being associated with Joe Rogan.
I think in 2-3 years after honing the boot they will have an absolute banger. I have Origin jeans and theyre incredible.
I agree the jeans are nice, but they need to make sizes down to 28" waist. The stretch material makes these too big for me and I can't send them back since I tried to see if they would shrink with washing and drying. They didn't. For now they are my winter jeans when I need to wear a layer under. The boots are nice but agree with the changes that could be made. I also don't like the blake stitch in the back. It looks like too much water and snow could get in there. The new gusseted tongue was uncomfortable for my foot because of the thick leather used. Other boots companies use different methods and materials to help with that fold. I appreciate what they are doing though and hope they continue. For now I have been looking at the JK 300 line of boots.
I found the denim material too stretchy for my liking. I can see the appeal of why someone else might enjoy them, but for the money - they just weren't to my liking.
@@ahhmeeb9354 Yeah thats fair. I would buy pacific northwest for now until they perfect their boots. agree the blake stitch might let water in eventually.
I love what these guys are doing, and fully support it. That said, this video really feels like an influencer video and not an independent video. It felt like you took all the company bullet points and tried to shoehorn (pun intended) them into product ties. It’s made to be athletic, like jujitsu. It’s steeped in the history of Maine in these ways…..you do a good job of breaking down construction, don’t let companies change what you do.
He literally said they sponsored the video.
What did you think that meant?
Yeah he said the boots were provided by them, that they sponsored the video and that he's very biased towards companies like this that try and source all materials from the US, like come on.
10:47 "When businesses are all about making money, a lot of times the ethics and those values take a second seat to the money".
Ironic considering the amount of sponsored videos and weaker content as of late?
I hope you’re very selective about which sponsors you work with. You don’t want to ruin your credibility in this space. It takes years to grow it, but only a day to ruin it. I really appreciate your knowledge! Thanks!
I love and have subscribed to this channel. But I totally agree with you. They simply should not be doing these "the sponsor of this video is origin" and "in this video we will look at origin boots" type reviews. It muddies the waters in too many ways to name.
@@toddchapman9038bingo. He can have sponsored videos, but just space them out a little and give it a format other than the literal testing. He’s already done this boot, so just interview the people and let them tell the story. Or give some away on another video. But you have to be so clear that you aren’t putting out puff pieces, beyond just saying it. Then people also worry about the brand relationship affecting the top 5 videos and such.
They pay him 20k for these commercials. They're a bargain compared to TV airtime but at the end of the day this is just advertising. Best to just watch his videos on mute then you can form a proper opinion.
After Chippewa stopped making the apache boot, it took me two years to find Origin as a replacement boot. So far they are holding up well, they had a huge sale on Black Friday, $100+ off. So I bought 5 pairs, in case they suddenly stopped making them like Chippewa.
Chippewa lost my buisness when they stopped making boots in the USA. Loved their super logger boots.
When somebody can afford to discount something by a hundred dollars.... It makes me kinda wonder how much margin they've got. I'm glad you're happy with the boots!
@@LordHolley very fair point, but hey people gotta make money.
I wanted to like Origin. Bought a pair. Stitch failed after 1 month. Contacted the company and it took the more than a month to even get back to me. I had them repaired locally because I got tired of waiting. A year later the footbed is totally collapsed. They’re unwearable. Do. Not. Buy.
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wow, that blows.
Which boots do you recommend for everyday use?
@@Carlos.Rivera jim green
All I see on the inside are manmade materials, no gusto... You´d grill any other company doing so, why give Origin a pass???
He is never critical in a sponsored video. Thwy pay him to say certain things
@@12345....... They are ALL sponsored.
As much as I love buying Made in USA, I just can't get behind these.
To start, I think they are really ugly.
More importantly though, these are nearly completely synthetic. I just don't see the upside. There are so many options from other companies that have a high "Made in USA" percentage of components.
Thursday has a made in USA collection for far less money than these, or anything from White's, Nick's, or JK. You also have brands like Truman Boot Co. And Oak Street Bootmakers.
There's too much competition to justify the $330 price with nearly all synthetic materials.
How can you review a product who’s sponsoring the video. That’s no longer a review
Exactly why he did not say anything about Origin approving the video before it was published.
Sponsored video. Understand that all of these videos can't be sponsor free, but take it as a paid advert disguised as a review.
Literally says that they have sponsored the video and sent him the shoe. What more do you want?
@@danc5677 People are naive and will take this as an honest product review. It's not. It's bought and paid. Even Rose Anvil is capable of selling you on something. He is not the second coming of leather boot Christ...
@@GOD999MODE never said he was the second coming of leather Christ whatever that means.
You do realise you can have a sponsored video AND for it to be honest. The two aren't mutually exclusive although you seem to think they are
If you really feel like you've been hard done by watching all this free content then don't watch it and engage with it lol
@@danc5677 Don't know what you're arguing about, but just something to note so that people don't mistake it for a regular review. And no, it can't be fully honest since they're literally paying you to say good things about it.
This video seemed like an advertisement.
He cuts other peoples' work in half for a living. This man has NO integrity.
These center cut scores feel inflated🧐
Love the videos and appreciate the knowledge you pass on. I feel so informed on what I want and need out of my work boots. So much wasted money and foot pain could have been avoided.
Jiu Jitsu, the art of folding clothes while the person is still wearing them.
Lmao Dude 😂
Involuntary chiropractic care
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No, no, it's involuntary yoga.
Jiu Jitsu, the art of being a power-bottom.
Are you going to do a video on the Jim Green Baobab Boot?
It might just be the best budget boot ever made!
I have a pair of these with the wedge soles, and I would 100% buy them again. The leather is very nice quality, and the boots are very comfortable. I agree with you that two nice additions would be speed hooks, and a shank on the non wedge sole versions. I would like to grab a pair of these with the big lug soles, but won’t purchase them until they add a shank to that version. Until then I’ll stick to me wedge soles and be happy.
Cannot justify the full price given internal materials. Red Wing heritage boots are built better with better materials. Truman Boots as well. Surprised you did not slam them like others with similar internals.
This is a sponsored video.
Wait till you see what is inside the 'brain pills' that Joe Rogan sells to dudebros 😂
wow you are doing a full featured paid ADvertisement huh. sponsor is one thing. liking them is another. Doing what feels like a full Ad is off putting.
I love my Origin boots. More than the 2 pairs of JKs I have.
The main reason I bought the Origin boots was their so much emphasis on "America". The same reason I bought my first pair of JK. The Origin boots turned out to be way better than I expected.
This feels more like a 12 minute ad
Weston, gotta be honest. After watching sponsored reviews vs. non sponsored, I can’t watch your videos anymore.
I don’t come to listen to you bloviate empty praise for a sponsored product. I come for an honest review. Because you can’t seem to have an unbiased opinion when youre being paid, I don’t trust your reviews for the paid or unpaid versions.
Loved your content but you gotta tighten up.
No shank no buy. For the price pay a bit more and get nicks, whites, or jk.
i’m certain the built boots have the shank
I'Ve seen these advertised for awhile, I looked at the construction and am going to wait for a few upgrades on the boot. I do support the Ideology of the company and hope for the best for ORIGIN.
About manufacturing in the USA.
The NPR program The Color Money did an article a few years ago tracking the complete production process of t-shirt for their show.
They started with the cotton grower in the south Mississippi or Louisiana. Because there no mills in the US, the raw cotton then went to Pakistan (I think) then the fabric went to Colombia. I cannot recall if that was to be dyed or cut. But only then did it come back to the US to be finished.
We have lost a lot of our manufacturing capabilities and need to bring them back. I understand globalization, but there is something to be said for being able to be self sufficient.
Origin has a youtube channel where they walk through the whole production line. I know they make their Gi fabric in house and I think they might do their t-shirts as well. They source their denim from a mill in georgia.
There are spinners, weavers (or knitters) in the united states. 3$ shorts aren't made with US fabrics though.
I have bought a lot of camo and clothing from Origin - but I have wanted to wait a while longer before buying boots from them. I’ve loved their camo and clothing.
I care more about the dollar per value then if it’s made in America
I’ve bought a bunch of stuff made in America, thinking it would be better and it ends up being trash
You pay the same price of Made in USA, as products made in China and the China product will hold up better with better materials. Facts.
Would love to see a review of the Thursday Vanguard (not the Logger) made in the USA along with a breakdown of how much USA sourced components they use.
Thanks for doing a second video on Origin and their boots. I just received my Buffalo big lug boots in black. I frigging love them! I love wearing them despite the leather still being stiff and needing more break in. As well I've never had a pair that not only felr as cool as they do but when looking down at them they are to me some of the most aesthetically pleasing. I've only.had mine for about 2 weeks and I think they are totally worth it. Especially if you get a black Friday season sale :)
I will say living in Germany I got royally 'efft' when I had to pay their government import tax if 155.50 euros. That's on top of the 48 dollars I had to pay for shipping and handling.
The import tax was calculated after the boots were processed in customs. Otherwise I would have waited to buy them or just stuck with my Thursday Diplomats.
I m happy at least that the purchase price of the boots and the awesome jeans I also bought from Origin went to supporting true American made and sourced product and workers.
God Bless the USA! She needs our love and support. Great review!
Please review high quality boots made in the UK or Europe.
Not US, but UK. I don't need convincing, but Altberg boots, especially the military ones are the best I have ever had, and a lot less expensive than many on here, so I feel you'd be impressed if you ever got your hands on a pair.
11:45 speed hooks or die.
A year or so ago I decided to put my money where my mouth was and pony up for some origin coronados. They actually have factory seconds you can buy on their "factory outlet" for a fair bit cheaper than normal; I think I got mine for 200 or 250 at the time. All in all, I think they're fine. I got the mini lug so i don't notice the lack of a shank and the model I recieved actually has screws in the front of the sole near the toes. For being factory seconds I can't see much wrong with them at all. They're certainly not work boots meant to kicked around on an oil derrick or anything but I didn't buy them for that. I bought them to support US manufacturing and to buy something that would conform to my foot better than some of the ten-inches-of-leather boots people buy. I actually had a friend who bought iron rangers and always complains that they feel like wood under his feet even a few years on so I guess it all comes down to different strokes for different folks.
They work for me as a casual to light use boot -- I'm sure their built boots are more serious -- and I've grown to like their looks. I'm sure the company has it's issues and the video was a bit more of an advertisement than I expected from this channel but the negative nancies in the comments section are disheartening. True to a fair extent but disheartening all the same, especially the political BS.
I want all your suggested improvements and I'd really like a slightly sleeker toebox. Love the made in US spirit. Production capability and quality is something America needs to take real pride in again.
I love mine. When I got my first pair in and wore them for a week I went and ordered another pair in the slate color. The whiskey brown is their best color imo.
I purchased the flat sole Coronado in brown......shipped to Canada with no issues.....used them for around 4 months now........the overall finish is still good.....scratch and scuff easy......but also easy to clean up quick......they are way more comfortable now than before break in..... definitely the most agile boot of all the top brand styles.....the profile looks better with more styles of clothing than any of the top brands also. So if they don't fall apart on me from a cheap failure in the wild.....seems like the best boot in the price range....worth the money 👍
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t the “work boot” version fix a couple of the issues you have ? I was looking at them awhile back and couldn’t find any reviews on that specific model to see if it’s worth the price
I have a pair of Origin Boots and they are amazing. Hands down most comfortable work boot I have. They take a beating. I’m sold for life on these.
In the name of art the back panel is cut to come to a point on the sidewall of the boot...I may be wrong but I would think that over a relatively short period of time it will get caught and come loose or get wrecked if doing anything but walking the grocery store or shoveling snow.
You seem to be doing ads instead of reviews a lot lately. I am beginning to question your credibility. You would destroy another company for this quality at this point, but you are giving them a pass. This is the second or third straight up ad I have seen on your channel on the last few weeks.
Is this the second or third time you've used Joe Rogan as a clickbait thumbnail?
Does Vibram make outsoles in the USA? They have research, testing and "creative" facilities in the USA but don't seem to list manufacturing. And if I'm wrong and they do manufacture soles in Boston (they describe it as a design and "maker space"), I'm pretty sure that Vibram sell soles to many other USA boot manufacturers as otherwise the factory is not going to be commercially viable.
Regarding the materials used, I'm pretty sure that Thursday with the Vanguard boot claim that they use all USA made materials including even sourcing the Poron foam from a USA manufacturer.
Regardless, it seems to be a marketing gimmick to source every last component from the US in a globalised world and perhaps it would be more useful to the US economy to make sure that the manufacturing facilities use American made machines, the office furniture, air conditioning, electrical supply, flooring and so forth are American made rather than worrying about the thread, nails and glue production.
It would be awesome to see their craftsmanship with your knowledge to come together and make a really amazing boot.
Interesting. I definitely like the concept & direction. Yeah, speed hooks / shank (I climb ladders occasionally) & I'd buy a pair to try.
I was just watching this second review of Origin boots thinking, "I'm going to buy a pair!" And then I started reading these comments. One after another, after another of poor experiences and poor quality. It is really, really unfortunate, I hope they get their act together. They got a really cool product, but it sounds like they're having problems with execution. Fingers crossed, I'll check back in a year.
Ive had a pair of the bison boots for a couple years and love them. maybe things have changed since i bought mine.
I know you can't buy them now but my Danner Combat Hikers were Berry compliant and as far as i know that means they're pretty damn made in USA.
They've been GREAT boots for me for like 15+ years. Only real downside is they're not resoleable and are about worn out now so idk what I'll get next. I'll never beat the deal I got on these... $50 from danner directly back in the day when they had back room online deals.
I know the combat hikers got shit online but for me in the rocky woodland terrain I hike and camp they were ideal. Heavy, but ideal and obviously held up better than i ever thought.
The algorithm recommended your videos/channel to me. It's great stuff. I'm not a big boot wearer but love the way you break things down in all your videos. If you love USA made clothing, check out Duckworth, which is the ONLY 100% American merino wool company. From the sheep raised in Montana to the cutting, dyeing and finishing mills in the USA. I've got several of their stuff and it's amazing. I don't work for them, just a proud supporter. It's also not cheap..but it's priced the same or a very little more than what foreign made competitors charge.
I got these in wedge sole 8.5 D. They're really comfy. Theres suspension in that heel design, at least when they're still new. I should have ordered a 9 but realized too late. Giving them to my dad
Have been wearing my Origin Boots for close to 3 years now. Finally getting to resole time. They are absolutely form fitted to my foot and more comfortable for daily wear than my Nick's... nicks still win the day for heavier outdoor work and motorcycle rides, but for all day office wear and standing work in shop, Origin.
When the time arrives for the resole, please post the quote below. I have a fellow cobbler in Chicago that charges $350 for that job. I quoted my last customer $300 and he (understandably) declined.
Everything that exists has what's called a HS (or HTS) code. This is a 10-digit code used by customs (all over the world) to identify objects.
The first 2 numbers determines the 'chapter' the item belongs to so, for instance, Chapter 64 refers to footwear. This is a different code than leather which you'd find under Chapter 41.
Origin determination rules can be complex but generally speaking if something is imported under one Chapter and transformed into something that belongs to a different Chapter, like leather under 41 that becomes footwear under 64, then something was obviously 'made' and you can call it Made/Assembled in wherever that is.
I'd like to see you cut the Red Wing Work Chukka in half and see how that compares to the Classic Moc and Iron Ranger. I know they have a Weekender version that's more like the Chelsea you did, but I think the Work Chukka is more traditional Red Wing.
weekender chukka is still maybe my favorite shoe after like 7 years and a resole, and it really feels like a shoe. great casual shoe, but don't like the crepe outsole
Would definitely consider these boots with the addition of a shank. I've checked out their products before when looking for USA made, and will keep them on my list
They make the best pair of jeans America has to offer.
I own a pair of these and they are my first pair of work or boots in general so I can’t really attest to how “athletic “ they feel because compared to Jordan’s or Nike runners they feel like I can stomp one’s brains out with em! But I love them as a work boot they keep my feet dry when I have to waddle through a little mud or water. They were however light enough for me to do hikes when I visited Colorado.
I love mine, broke in quick too 🍻 Happy Holidays y’all
It is 100% worth buying a made in the USA boot. Especially when comparing it to some cheaply made chinese boot.
Companies like this are the only thing keeping our dollar from tanking. They do have a model with a fiberglass shank.
haha
I'd rather spend a few more bucks and get a pair of Trumans.
or spend a lot less and get golden fox
I wish they'd do a slip sole and I wish they'd replace the foam with actual leather. The removable insole is nice but I wish it just had leather under it for durability
That thing is lacking a lot of leather for 300+ dollars.
I like how it's really obvious which season it is based on your outfits, since apparently your studio has no heating:-)
Needs more structure. Good concept but boots still need higher standards for structure. A resole of these would almost definitively include changing the midsole
Hell yeah it's worth buying made in the USA. I live in the PNW and I have a pair of Nick's I use for hunting and deep snow. I was born and live in the USA. My money will always go to US workers because they are working to support their families as I am mine. Everything of late seems to try to divide us, but it's BS. If it has the made in the USA label, I'm in.
Like other commenters I’m disappointed with this video. You’ve built your brand by being very candid and unbiased about the build quality of various boots/shoes. The second you’re paid by a company to make a video “reviewing” their product your credibility disappears (regardless of how much you like the product/company). I hope you avoid these types of sponsorships in the future and focus more on building out your own brand/company. I bought one of your wallets a while back and really like it; I’d be much happier buying more things made by RA than some affiliate boot/shoe where your judgment is likely to be compromised.
Howd you compare these to Nicks?
Keep up the great work comparing all these boots!
We don't need corporations/monopolies nor foreign jobs coming to the US but small locally owned businesses being built from the ground up in the US.
I bought a pair and definitely not a work boot for the trades. Their “work boot” fell apart in less than six months. Stitching, inside toe liner, laces are trash, maybe a work boot if you work at a nail salon. Very disappointed. You should do reviews after a few months because the review would make me think these things are worth the money
Have you ever looked at Berry Amendment Compliant Boots? Berry Compliant means That not only do they HAVE to be made in USA, BUT all materials 100% SOURCED in the USA just like Origin does. Difference being that Berry Compliant is Strictly military gear and approved by the Department Of Defense. Would 100% take a look at Berry Complaint Boots. For they can back that claim as well
Berry compliant means little to anyone who has worn the issued boots the military gives you. Yes they are MIUSA but they could do a lot better at making comfortable boots. I will say though my flight deck boots from Belleville were pretty decent.
Berry Compliant Boots are basically sneakers. They need to be light and soft, they're not made to last that much.
Origin is not 100% sourced from the us
Have you done a review of the Timberland Boondock? I've looked but haven't found so thought I'd ask.
I've supported Origin with my wallet and I really like my Coronado boot for it's lighter more flexible feel made with a leather midsole unlike several much more expensive, non USA made boots. My only regret was choosing the mini lug sole as it limits the cushion under foot.
I love the idea of the Origin boots, but the lack of shank and lower arch profile had me go elsewhere. I am waiting for those changes or additions one day.
Boy! That Carhart knock off jacket isn't even broken in.
I have happily spent the extra money to buy their goods. I own several pairs of their GIs, their boots and jeans. Maybe it's mental, but the quality is superior to others. I also would love some speed hooks on the upper. The top 2 would be perfect, similar to the Jim Green African Rangers. Great video though, merry Christmas!
I literally have stopped shopping for jeans since I got the origin jeans. They're amazing.
You have to be one of those kids who has timberlands to own these. Bottom of the barrel construction methods and materials. A sucker is born every minute i guess.
I have a pair of their Built boots. Kind of underwhelmed for a $400 pair of boots. The sole delaminated in about 3 weeks, the midsole squeaks against the leather, the laces aren’t long enough to use every eyelet, and they absolutely need another pair of lower speed hooks.
If they would add a shank to the soft toe version I bet it would make one hell of a hiker/backpacking boot
It wouldn't trust me
no man
Watching this wearing my Origin Kilo hoodie and wearing my Coronado boots. I'd say they are worth every single cent.
I have a pair of their bison boots, great quality and strongly support all boot and clothing manufacturers that are made in our country.
Love your channel!!
It sounds like they've solved my complaints with their boots being roomier in the toe and adding the higher gusset on the tongue will keep the debris out better and not pinch my toes.
I have their work jeans, tee’s, and sweat shirts. I basically live in their work jeans. Their tops are great too. I waited until Black Friday to order their 8inch work boot. I have not received them yet. So the jury is still out. Can’t wait to work in them.
Can you please review Hoffman's Double Insulated package boots and/or Hoffman's Voyager pack boots? I think they are the best pac boots I ever had. Made in Kellogg, Idaho.
Would love it if you went through some of the motorcycle specific boots that are out now that look like red wings etc. brands like John Doe, Rokka, Merlin, Belstaff etc.
I wear logging style boots(Vibergs) but I have the speed hooks replaced with eyelets. Speed is ok but I’ve had them come open when wet.
Hey man, There are only two brands that I've been wearing recently and would love your opinion. Onitsuka tiger and Krahu.. I have a few pairs from each company and the tiger's GSM is the best sneaker I've ever worn. I have abused that shoe and I can't find a single thing wrong with my pair. I really want to know if I'm not crazy and if not, then people deserve to know. I'm so sick of the same hype brands.
Shape of these boots is very good. I think few improvements would make these boots modern classic!
I would love to see you take a look at the new popcush insoles vans is using and compare them to older vans.
Made in USA, just means overpriced, will eventually break just like any product.
More made in America than the PNW bootmakers? Here he goes slobbin on the sponsors knob again😒
After watching your first video about Origin. I bought the pair in this video for work!
I need a compost toe boot that was non slip that was quality.
The rest of the top American boots packed steel toe.
Hi there, thanks for your reviews we can make a purchase with confidence, since Iam not going to be cutting my boots to get a new one.
there is a Canadian brand called Oliberte that used to make boots in Africa and they shifted production to Canada instead. it would be awesome to get some boots under the knife.
Still trying to figure out why they removed the pull tab, now I cant replace my old Coronado boot because the "New Design"
I hate speed hooks. There is a reason the armed forces went to a speed lace system. Which is far superior to any other system in my opinion.
yeah great system
I definitely prefer Made in USA even if it doesn’t mean it’s the best on the market. I just bought the Byron Boot by Rancourt & Co (won’t be here for a few months) and I’m sure there is better for the money but it’s supporting small town businesses; especially from Maine my home state. But I don’t shy away if another country has a culture of making a product, ex Mexico and cowboy boots.
10:29 100% I buy American to employ Americans.
Would you ever cut in half a pair of Paraboot's? Would love to get your thoughts on the Norwegian welt construction and 100+ year brand
When it comes boots I’m pretty much a Hiax guy, but I did buy a couple Origin hoodies because they were American made. Kinda hard to screw up a hoodie, and they are very nice. The heavy hoodie is very well made and warm. But this is a boot channel so after reading the reviews I’ll learn from others and keep my money until the reviews improve
Iam in ireland. Wear haix great boots
Nah, businesses should exist for the benefit of their customers. These boots just don't appear to be a good value for the man or woman spending their hard earned dollars. They certainly don't seem like something I'd want to stand in for 60 hours a week.
Have you guys done patrolman boots? Rocky, Nike ACG or Bates
Excellent video. Probably going to annoy some brands and end users by spotlighting how many “American made” boots aren’t what most people think they are. I’ve seen the same shenanigans in Japan where entire uppers are manufactured in China and Korea and then the soles are attached in Japan, and viola, they’re “Made in Japan.” Once enough customers start caring then these practices will stop.
My Origin boots are a little over a year old and I love them. I wear them everywhere except for work. I need steel toes for my work boots. The boots are holding up well and I will likely purchase another pair sometime in the future but I don't really expect to need a new pair anytime soon. I'm close to fully retiring and I'm not as rough on my boots at this age. I need a wide boot with a roomy toe box due to hardware holding my right foot together and I was apprehensive ordering online but I used their size chart and the boots arrived a perfect fit.
I don't know about Origin boots but their clothing is great. The jeans are amazing I had Joe's Jeans before and the Origins feels better constructed but just as comfortable.
If their boots are as well made as their jeans, they will be fantastic.