Who's In Control? - Turkish Airlines Flight 1951

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    Turkish Airlines Flight 1951 was a passenger flight from Istanbul, Turkey, to Amsterdam Schiphol Airport, Netherlands, on 25th February 2009.
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  • @alienrefugee51
    @alienrefugee51 5 лет назад +78

    I really don’t understand how planes with known problems, no matter how small continue to fly. It always takes a disaster to change a damn part that greedy billion dollar companies don’t want to address.

    • @johnvines4875
      @johnvines4875 5 лет назад +2

      net income is only few hundred million, slow down

  • @cratoschsohndescadrim5036
    @cratoschsohndescadrim5036 5 лет назад +35

    Interesting. Like in the ongoing Boeing 737 Max 8 crisis, a major factor is an automated system that relies on a single sensor without redundancy. Despite this major design flaw Boeing shifts all blame to the pilots. Seems to be a pattern.

    • @oliverstransky4254
      @oliverstransky4254 3 года назад +1

      @@davehagen2540 there was no documentation that the MCAS existed in the max 8 first of all second of all they maxed it a few secinds after turning off throttle and went down in a attempt to gain speed which is a high altitude stall recovery so they did kinda a fault there

  • @MrTruckerf
    @MrTruckerf 5 лет назад +76

    Fortunately there was no fire.

  • @alphafoxtrot787
    @alphafoxtrot787 5 лет назад +56

    The impact looks deadly, But im glad there were survivors. Rest in peace for those who died, oh and loved the video! Great work

    • @alphafoxtrot787
      @alphafoxtrot787 5 лет назад

      No problem, keep up the great work!

    • @TheShmrsh
      @TheShmrsh 5 лет назад +1

      Is that was a real video of impact or cg?

    • @sammyd2175
      @sammyd2175 5 лет назад

      @@TheShmrsh the impact video was CGI

  • @Stripedbottom
    @Stripedbottom 5 лет назад +21

    Wait what? "Yeah, we have this device that supplies critical data that the plane uses to fly itself but we can't make the darn device work properly. It's not a safety issue though. Oh no, it isn't."

    • @AS-er4ud
      @AS-er4ud 5 лет назад +13

      So fucking disgraceful to blame the pilots. Yea, the pilots could have maybe mitigated the problem, but it's not their fault that the plane is fucking broken.

  • @trashpakker
    @trashpakker 5 лет назад +25

    Failed twice before. With similar failures throughout the 737s. So Boeing blames the pilots. I hope the families of the dead got their paydays................my deepest condolences to them.
    "X" kickin ass here kid. Very well done sir.

  • @mishmashmedley
    @mishmashmedley 4 года назад +10

    "4 Boeing engineers on board..."
    Me: Oh! Cool, they will help diagnose and fix the problem! Awesome.
    _^6 minutes later^_
    Well WTF.

  • @maspencer6379
    @maspencer6379 5 лет назад +18

    If I were the plane I'd be questioning why I were flying underground.

  • @liamdoc1368
    @liamdoc1368 5 лет назад +38

    a mix of designer flaws and pilot mistakes a killer combo, very unfortunate hope this never happens again. PS luv the vids

    • @GratedArseCheeks
      @GratedArseCheeks 5 лет назад

      Why on earth does it not have detection for a failed altimeter? Surely it would be easy to implement a system that forces a manual landing if the altimeter is stuck?

  • @ricarleite
    @ricarleite 5 лет назад +5

    OK so let me get this straight. There is a known bug on the radio altimeter for all 737s, and Boeing response is "Yep we don't know the cause, so, when this happens just pay attention and switch to manual."
    What?!

    • @Lara__Croft
      @Lara__Croft 5 лет назад +1

      I know it's crazy to expect pilots to pay attention to the aircraft they're flying.

    • @JohnDoe-xl8fr
      @JohnDoe-xl8fr 5 лет назад +1

      They just act like smartass . TK must leave Boeing ASAP .

  • @bena6575
    @bena6575 5 лет назад +1

    Just found your videos and I appreciate the effort you are putting in! The information is really well presented. Keep it up my dude👍🏻

  • @GeorgiesMom723
    @GeorgiesMom723 5 лет назад

    Another great video! Yours are the best crash videos by far.

  • @Super-J10
    @Super-J10 5 лет назад

    Awesome info / video as usual !

  • @n0rpp4
    @n0rpp4 5 лет назад +5

    Let me guess, Boeing didn't redesign the radio altimeter system

  • @SuperSherman44
    @SuperSherman44 5 лет назад +2

    nice vid!

  • @nosybutnice7538
    @nosybutnice7538 5 лет назад +24

    The cockpit looked like it was survivable for the pilots.

    • @Tellyfive
      @Tellyfive 5 лет назад +2

      That’s what I was thinking.

    • @benjaminc8789
      @benjaminc8789 5 лет назад +8

      Probably weren’t wearing seatbelts, something else they forgot about .

    • @ricarleite
      @ricarleite 5 лет назад

      No seatbelts

    • @konstamattsson
      @konstamattsson 5 лет назад +17

      The frontal landing gear pushed through the floor of the cockpit, causing the pilots fatal brain damage

    • @Dan-379
      @Dan-379 2 года назад

      The F/O actually survived the initial impact and tried to call for help

  • @graysonb2664
    @graysonb2664 5 лет назад +1

    You should do the RUclips Channel member thing, and great video as always

  • @DeployTheDRS
    @DeployTheDRS 5 лет назад +2

    I remember watching this on the news hours before I was set to fly from Nice to East Midlands on a BMI Baby when I lived in France. Didn't give me good vibes I'd I'm honest...

  • @klaus3794
    @klaus3794 5 лет назад +1

    FASCINATING!

  • @lilzack59
    @lilzack59 5 лет назад

    You are doing an excellent job! You make Joshua Alec Ebay look like an amateur with his great value flight simulator

  • @lesb_socal
    @lesb_socal 5 лет назад +3

    I find this incredulous! A known very serious problem existed and no compelling action taken. Didnt even notify all the pilots so they wouldnt be blindsided while ferrying passengers.
    Govt agencies and Boeing borked up real good then have gall to blame pilots who they basically TRICKED.
    Makes me wonder what situations like this exist right now.

  • @WINFIELD120
    @WINFIELD120 4 года назад

    your videos rock

  • @xcentnastyx5346
    @xcentnastyx5346 5 лет назад

    Love your videos. Do you ever plan on doing comair flight 5191?

  • @titan9259
    @titan9259 5 лет назад

    UR DA BEST RUclipsR IN DA WORLD!

  • @watershed44
    @watershed44 5 лет назад +1

    X Pilot
    What also puzzles me is why the pilots that had the problems previously didn't leave
    a warning note posted in the cockpit for these pilots about the problem. It would have been simple as writing a few sentences and this would have likely been prevented.
    Don't the prior cockpit crews ever leave such notes to subsequent pilots? Seems like common sense to me.

  • @TheVirindi
    @TheVirindi 5 лет назад +6

    No changes to the operation of the computer? It sounds like there should be an audible warning when automatic flare activates.

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 5 лет назад +1

      VirindiJess
      Indeed you would think this would be the case. I wish X Pilot would do a live stream chat so we could discuss such things as a follow up.

    • @benjaminc8789
      @benjaminc8789 5 лет назад

      watershed44 I think expilot is busy just making these vids in I the first instance

    • @JohnDoe-xl8fr
      @JohnDoe-xl8fr 5 лет назад +1

      We talking about Boeing . Do you think they really care people .

  • @georgespector974
    @georgespector974 5 лет назад +5

    I probably shouldn’t watch this right before going on a plane myself...

    • @MarkiusFox
      @MarkiusFox 5 лет назад +2

      Well, it's not that bad being quite honest. If anything, the incidents are a severe exception rather than the rule.

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 5 лет назад +1

      George_Monkey Jojo
      Just don't watch this while flying and allow fellow passengers or crew to see it. The crew WILL tell you to turn it off if anyone can see the screen.

  • @TheLesserWeevil
    @TheLesserWeevil 5 лет назад +5

    Interesting that all 3 pilots were killed. The forward/cockpit section of the plane looked pretty well intact.

    • @Marckymarc71
      @Marckymarc71 5 лет назад +5

      Most of the fatalities and critical injuries on this flight were seated in the front of the plane. It probably hit the hardest.

    • @konstamattsson
      @konstamattsson 5 лет назад +1

      The frontal landing gear came through the floor of the cockpit, causing the pilots fatal brain damage

    • @konstamattsson
      @konstamattsson 5 лет назад +1

      @Chuck Finley The NTSB final report of this crash

    • @mamindhive
      @mamindhive 4 года назад +1

      It is because of the nose pitch down trying to gain airspeed

  • @jacksainthill8974
    @jacksainthill8974 5 лет назад +2

    07:30 _Investigators recommend that Boeing redesign the B737 radio altimeter system._
    Recommend? That's not quite the same as telling them to get on and do it, is it?
    Interesting video, thank you.

    • @Buick_GSX
      @Buick_GSX 5 лет назад +1

      Because Boeing gets special treatment, unlike McDonnell Douglas and Lockheed and other manufacturers.

  • @smb226b
    @smb226b 5 лет назад +2

    Wow,I love it, 1 question
    Why you deleted the previous video?

  • @Jibriltz
    @Jibriltz 5 лет назад +1

    A radio altimeter problem that causes Flare mode at 1000ft? A problem like that should have grounded the aircraft. Anything that makes the aircraft do something unexpected at low speed and low altitude is dangerous. Yes the pilots should have taken control and continued manually and focused on flying the plane but Amsterdam is busy as hell and it is too easy to get distracted on approach. Mechanical fault combined with busy environment and training was a fatal mix and I blame Turkish completely for this accident.

  • @rpgfpv4363
    @rpgfpv4363 5 лет назад

    Can you do a video on the recent Aeromexico AM2431 crash in Durango?

  • @tianyangsun8107
    @tianyangsun8107 5 лет назад

    is that an AD item on the Service Bulletin?

  • @alexanderyi2514
    @alexanderyi2514 5 лет назад +1

    Yo! Please make a video on the recent Alaska Airlines incident over Seattle. Mechanic hijacks plane with no passengers and goes rogue, crashes into Puget Sound. Apparently they had communicaiton too

  • @fenser
    @fenser 5 лет назад +3

    X pilot are you a pilot irl? Loving the content

    • @danman367
      @danman367 5 лет назад +2

      X Pilot you'd be a great pilot since you have an extensive knowledge of airplane disasters

  • @bottomtext5872
    @bottomtext5872 5 лет назад +20

    I don't get why the investigators blamed the pilots, they said them self that the pilots where occupied with the landing checklist, you don't read 2 or 3 lines then glance up.

    • @khalidfh
      @khalidfh 5 лет назад +3

      I am wondering as well

    • @MarkiusFox
      @MarkiusFox 5 лет назад +5

      The flight had an Instructor Captain, a Safety Pilot and a First Officer that was in line training, meaning they were getting on the job training to build hours in that aircraft and learning the practical things with the help of the Instructor and overseen by the Safety Pilot.

    • @CaptainFeathersword
      @CaptainFeathersword 5 лет назад +8

      Rule #1 is "fly the airplane". There are certain critical items that must be constantly monitored, regardless of anything else. Ensuring sufficient airspeed at very low altitude is a life or death thing.

    • @celanis7164
      @celanis7164 5 лет назад +3

      Criticized != blamed. Other pilots noticed and corrected the flaw days before - it should have been passed on to maintenance and the next flying crew(s). I think the blame is clearly faulty hardware.

    • @JohnDoe-xl8fr
      @JohnDoe-xl8fr 5 лет назад

      You know , nationalism against Turkey .

  • @gcap3213
    @gcap3213 5 лет назад

    It would be amazing if you would be able to find an air Canada accident, thanks p.s great video

  • @barbaraguy3491
    @barbaraguy3491 5 лет назад +1

    This is another senseless maintenance tragedy. Two days before, the same issue?! Why wasn't that a log entry for the next crew to decide if they should fly/not fly with a faulty instrument?
    I find your channel very interesting and provocative. You sometimes mention the upside that future aviation endeavors learn from these tragedies, but it will not convince me to enter a plane.
    Other comments request music or voice-over after the crash, I disagree. I find your format reverent and respectful to the lost souls on the flight. Thank you.

  • @TheDissentience
    @TheDissentience 5 лет назад

    Those injuries must have been fucking brutal

  • @Nominay
    @Nominay 5 лет назад

    Recommendation: Make a video of the Buddy Holly 1959 flight.

  • @lillemand5
    @lillemand5 5 лет назад

    Flying a Turkish Airlines 737 in a few hours (CPH-IST), hope this doesn't repeat itself.

  • @P_RoC45
    @P_RoC45 5 лет назад

    Great content, but the white font is kinda hard to read.

    • @P_RoC45
      @P_RoC45 5 лет назад +2

      You still make the best airline disaster videos, no one does it better!

  • @joshuahollenstein5003
    @joshuahollenstein5003 4 года назад

    Why does the altimeter even go to -8?!

  • @Dendelin007
    @Dendelin007 4 года назад

    Well the height was about to get minus 8 feet, not yet though.

  • @psalmsdavidofficial539
    @psalmsdavidofficial539 2 года назад +1

    Come on Rita, that was stupid!

  • @qmto
    @qmto 4 года назад

    Plane be like: Hmm, I see you’re currently flying 8 feet below the ground... Why isn’t your landing gear deployed?!

  • @harrisonofcolorado8886
    @harrisonofcolorado8886 5 лет назад +3

    I really hope this doesn't happen again.

    • @Nominay
      @Nominay 5 лет назад +1

      Harrison La time traveler As long as airline companies want to cut corners, it will.

    • @harrisonofcolorado8886
      @harrisonofcolorado8886 5 лет назад

      Well, s***.

  • @vanjamaric5255
    @vanjamaric5255 5 лет назад +4

    Dude Im regular Turkish airlanes passenger...Geez....

    • @JohnDoe-xl8fr
      @JohnDoe-xl8fr 5 лет назад +1

      AlaribonGames TV Fault of the Boeing

  • @calebshockency2083
    @calebshockency2083 5 лет назад

    Shit, only nine died? I was convinced that a plane could lightly brush the terrain and still kill everyone. Those passengers must be robots.

  • @DanielOliveira-ye8yd
    @DanielOliveira-ye8yd 5 лет назад

    what it means the aircraft was "written off"?

    • @CWINDOWSsystem32
      @CWINDOWSsystem32 5 лет назад

      I think it means that the aircraft could technically be repaired, but the repair cost would outweigh the cost to replace the plane. In which case the aircraft is considered a total loss.

  • @DominicanOps
    @DominicanOps 5 лет назад

    Where is the CGI footage from?

  • @RECTALBURRITO
    @RECTALBURRITO 3 года назад

    So it was Boeing and pilot error... Right?

  • @christophersalgado4139
    @christophersalgado4139 5 лет назад

    What about Delta Airlines flight 1141?

  • @theallfather6637
    @theallfather6637 5 лет назад

    I thought air crash investigations said the cause of the crash was a microburst

  • @m1co294
    @m1co294 5 лет назад +1

    Did Allec Joshua Ibay (fellow pinoy) gave you permission to copy his editing style, titles and stuff?

    • @CWINDOWSsystem32
      @CWINDOWSsystem32 5 лет назад

      Nobody owns any certain style of editing. Well maybe except Disney...

  • @jurgenklopp8771
    @jurgenklopp8771 5 лет назад +4

    I want to know who’s the person who dislikes your videos

    • @m1co294
      @m1co294 5 лет назад

      Brian probably Allec's fans

  • @andikacesatama9925
    @andikacesatama9925 5 лет назад

    Next Turkish Airlines 981 PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE;!!!!!!!!

  • @theomuller4224
    @theomuller4224 5 лет назад

    casual preference captain hate definitely enormous sigh singer magic own.

  • @zone5five
    @zone5five 5 лет назад

    If the radalt doesn't work, turn the damn thing off. Killed by automation, sounds like Airbus.

  • @anatolislavov4895
    @anatolislavov4895 5 лет назад +5

    next one crash of lech kaczynski's plane?

  • @lazuriidkwhattoputhere8719
    @lazuriidkwhattoputhere8719 5 лет назад

    How the hell do the NTSB criticize 3 dead pilots

    • @benjaminc8789
      @benjaminc8789 5 лет назад +1

      Noble Jacinto it’s easier that way ...

  • @TS0513
    @TS0513 5 лет назад +2

    Who's on control?
    The Pilot is in control

    • @davidmoore1253
      @davidmoore1253 5 лет назад

      The point is that the plane flared automatically without warning the pilot. By the time the pilot realised and took control it was too late.

    • @TS0513
      @TS0513 5 лет назад +1

      David Moore i was joking

    • @JohnDoe-xl8fr
      @JohnDoe-xl8fr 5 лет назад

      David Moore Because Boeing is shit

  • @MrCtrn
    @MrCtrn 4 года назад +4

    How Boeing’s Responsibility in a Deadly Crash ‘Got Buried’ By Chris Hamby
    Jan. 20, 2020
    The New York Times.

  • @ragetime7238
    @ragetime7238 3 года назад

    That's why you should never fly with Boeing airplanes.

  • @eliteschaf5697
    @eliteschaf5697 3 года назад

    For me, the captain is fully responsible for the crash. He should have broken off the landing to discuss the problem, as the co-pilot also made the captain aware of this on several occasions. With such a problem, a successful landing cannot be guaranteed at first. The captain in Turkey has another reputation, almost like in Asia. One wrong word from the co-pilot and he is sure of his decadence to a purser, which you can tell from the voices. Very unprofessional. It was really big how you push your nose down at 500 ft without increasing the thrust, really embarrassing such a captain for this guild, sorry.

  • @Tehgoat
    @Tehgoat 5 лет назад +23

    Typical Boeing
    An already acknowledged fault on other aircraft, yet they blame the pilots for being unaware of it while flying in fog
    If this had been AIrbus, they would have been more thorough in their examination, identification and actions to correct it

    • @mhrhan6530
      @mhrhan6530 5 лет назад +11

      Teh Goat totally accurate.Turkish Technic requested a new radio altimeter 5 times from boeing but boeing didn't give anything them and they blamed pilots. RIP All pilots.

    • @Tehgoat
      @Tehgoat 5 лет назад +12

      Any airline having to request a replacement for a faulty device five fucking times and not getting it, is diabolical; Boeing blaming the pilots is absolutely satanic
      This isn't poor customer service. It's Boeing killing people and getting away with it
      BASTARDS

    • @Tehgoat
      @Tehgoat 5 лет назад +3

      excuse my language, I apologise
      Something that Boeing won't

    • @JohnDoe-xl8fr
      @JohnDoe-xl8fr 5 лет назад +2

      Teh Goat Yes you are right TK should stop buying Boeing A.K.A McDonnell Douglas

    • @SnoutBaron
      @SnoutBaron 5 лет назад +2

      I agree with that but also airlines should ground plane that have issues like this.

  • @andikacesatama9925
    @andikacesatama9925 5 лет назад +5

    First....... Yeah

    • @partgard1
      @partgard1 5 лет назад +3

      FIRST FUCKING MORON. . . . . . .Yeah

  • @happytrails699
    @happytrails699 5 лет назад

    horrible

  • @angelorou2234
    @angelorou2234 5 лет назад

    Can you please do El Al flight 1862?