Planning Radiant Floor Heat (Design and Cost)
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Good info. Thank you
Thank you very much for all of the well put together videos on this that you’ve provided
Glad you are getting some help from it! Thanks for watching
It’s great that you are looking at options to heat water. I agree with having a backup system of forced air. This would provide heat it way to quickly heat home if need arises.
Definitely!
Did you use software to design the loops? If so which one .
Thanks
Great video and explanation of costs at the end. Do you have a ballpark $ for what a forced air heating system would be if you just went the traditional method and combined it with the AC duct work?
Getting preliminary quotes for the ducted system now, we basically will have a forced air system as well. It will be sort of a backup. I would imagine running ductwork will be a few thousand, the furnace/air handler is probably another 1-2k, and the A/C unit another 1-2k after it's charged up and ready to go.
Late to the party, so I've been binging the back catalog. I've heard you mention that slabs lose most of their heat through the edge a couple times, and I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around why that might be. My intuition tells me that heat would follow the path of least resistance from hot to cold, which ought to be through the top and bottom surfaces. Of course the relative temperatures of the cooler regions would impact the rate of heat flow, but so long as the perimeter edges are within the insulated envelope, I would expect that to reduce the rate of heat loss around the edges. I guess it all comes down to assumptions and boundary conditions, but I just haven't been able to reconcile it myself. Really excited to see what's next in the build process, even though it happened 2 years ago!
Haha thanks for following along! The U.S. DoE and other sources have published some great info on this showing the simulations and experiments. Slab edges abutting a perimeter wall are the closest to cold outdoor temps, losing heat the most there. The bottom surface loses heat at a lesser rate to the ground, which is ~50F year round, especially if there is a perimeter stem wall that is insulated down to footing (code here). The top surface is losing heat to ambient air as intended. So in general, thicker insulation between slab edge and foundation wall will preserve slab temp better than thicker insulation between slab bottom surface and ground.
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Great explanation, however, I didn't understand the idea of installing a 'water heater' and then adding a out door wood burner in the future. My understanding the bulk of the cost of those systems is the plumbing and interior installation (as described in the video). Having just installed a wood stove on an older home with central air, I've spit balled all the different options (forced air, heat pumps, interior/exterior boilers, ect.). Given the added complexity are there any concerns with radiant systems breaking down (i.e. the pumps failing) and being in PA - I'm curious if you plan on also sourcing and stockpiling coal for the out door boiler?
The outdoor wood boilers are expensive, probably close to 10k for a modern one with everything you need. Since we are paying for the whole build up front, a wood fired system is a nice-to-have to save money down the road once we are settled in and have time to do firewood. I'd like to have the option for it to work at the flip of a switch, so that's where the propane heater comes in - either dedicated tankless or shared with house water heater. Eventually I'd plumb it to work with either propane or wood fired.
Not really worried about anything failing (except tubing in the slab - that's bad). Everything else will be pretty easy to access and repair/replace if needed.
We aren't really in the coal country of PA so we will just stick with the firewood on the property, there is a ton
Did you ever consider using a 65 gal. hybrid/ heat pump hot water heater instead of a propane boiler?
I did, heat pump water heaters work best when they are in unconditioned spaces in warm climates since they pull the heat out of their surrounding space. I don’t think it’s the right product for our application. Also heard they are quite loud and have to run almost constantly
This is two years later I am just finding this video. Did you consider putting the vapor barrier below the insulation? You punctured it quite a bit attaching the pex to the insulation.
PEX was tied to rebar, not sure what you mean
@@MasonDixonAcres My mistake. I thought you said you stapled it to the foam, through the plastic. I've been binge watching your videos it was late and I was half asleep when I made that comment.
@@dennisalex3655 haha no worries. Wanted to put vapor barrier above foamboard to make sure no foam could float up during the pour. Also, vapor barriers don’t really work like air barriers. You can puncture them and their effectiveness is still proportional to the covered area. Joe Lstiburek did a good article on it, there was a quote along the lines of “you can tap dance on your vapor barrier in your golf shoes and it won’t make much of a difference”
Does the plan use zone heating?
That would have been good to mention - Yes there will be 2 zones, one for the garage one for the upstairs.
Insulate the heck out of your walls and attic floor. Radient floor heat is the bomb, best of luck.
Thanks! Yep, planning to use rockwool in walls and blown in cellulose in the attic
Look out for termites, coal is a better choice for BTU,S that wood. I don't care if you have 40 acres of timber to free cut. $90 a ton for stove coal at the mine site plus the coal will extend the burn time beyond what you can imagine.
Hello and good afternoon where are you buying coal for 90 dollars a ton at today’s prices
@@user-nn2yu5lf2g at the mine in Sparta, Illinois. It's not anthracite, bituminous with the same amount of BTU's per ton as anthracite.
I would get two 50 gallon water heaters. Rheem performance platinum hybrid 110v for your showers and sinks always in hybrid mode. I would then get the AO Smith 50 Gallon Voltex Residential Hybrid Electric Heat Pump Water Heater for the radiant system 220v. Both use heat pump technology. The AO Smith hot water is a bit more robust with two larger heating elements, which has a higher full electric output for the cold months and then use hybrid the rest of the months. To connect to your radiant system use the AO Smith hot water outlet and then use the cleanout valve on the bottom which is your input back into the tank to heat the water again. This is what we're doing.
Nice! We thought about the heat pump heaters but for a slab this size it takes a lot of energy to warm it. The heat pumps pull that energy from the air around them, so it's sort of working against itself. In hot climates they do much better. I also only wanted a single appliance for both floor heat and domestic water heat, so a propane tankless unit from Tagaki won out
Build it to passive home standards. And then a $1500 Mr Cool DIY mini split will be enough. Insulation Insulation Insulation. Everything else is easy if your house has very little thermal loss.
Haha ironically we are using MrCool mini splits in the garage and their Universal ducted system upstairs! We will be using Rockwool R-23 batt in the walls and R-38+R-23 in the attic.
Too much Yak, get to it.