@@normannicholas3722 Lies, That's not what Mark Golding said, please rewind and listen again, He said, I do have British Citizenship by descent, So, now we all know that he's a British citizen, this is something he never told us before, Jamaica's immigration record shows that his first Jamaican passport was given to him When he was 46 or 47 years old, Why would he need to apply for a British passport if he is a British citizen ?To travel to the U.K. That does not add up.
@safia59 most of us believe that he is a Jamaican, but we have no official record such as a Jamaican birth certificate to prove that he is, we cannot rely on what he Tells us, for most of his life he knew that he was a British citizen, but he never told anyone until just days ago, How can we trust such a person to lead our country ? even his alleged Jamaican citizenship have not yet been officially confirmed. So we don't even know if he's a Jamaican, Mark's Father and Mother were sent to Jamaica on British diplomatic passports, And Mark is most probably still a British diplomat in Jamaica. we just don't know, Why can't he just give it up ? renounces it and pledge his Allegiance to Jamaica only ? Think about that.
Well spoken Bruce Golding. Being a duel citizen of the common wealth is different from being , for example, a citizen of the USA or China. He was born with it and it’s legal. He uses his Jamaican passport for travel. Change the constitution or let the matter rest.
I would like to advise comrade mark Golding not to give up his dual citizenship until when Jamaica fully goes Republic, not before that day. Because Jamaica is still a British colony and,as the constitution said. Once you are a citizen of any commonwealth country, you can hold any office in Jamaica. I have travel to England several times and,I never got a visa to enter. During my time going to England all you are required to enter,is a letter of invitation from the person you are going to. You can have a visa from Jamaica on reaching England, they still can turn you back. I was married in England 34 years ago so, I know what am saying. My father went to England in 1957 lived there for years, before migrated to the United States. All these people in Jamaica who is claiming that they are constitutional lawyers or whatever they are, some of those have no damn sense at all. I was at the national stadium 🏟️ in 1962 when Jamaica gained this so-called independence august 6 th 1962 and , still don't really change from England. Because Jamaica is still a colony also a subject of England, because from 1962 the Jlp party government ministers them refused from break away from England. The greatest changes Jamaica has made since 1962 is, when the pnp party won election. The great Micheal Manley and his administration colleagues ministers them, changes a lot of things. For the betterment of the people of Jamaica, so I tried to avoid the younger generation them. B
@jasonakumetsu4929, if we only read section 39 of the Jamaica Constitution, he hasn't Broken any rules, and that's because section 39 only specify the qualification process for A person to be eligible to sit in our parliament, However, if we read section 40.2, as well, because section 39 is subject to section 40 and 41, section 40 and 41 legally, disqualified Anyone, from a Commonwealth or Non-Commonwealth Country from holding any office Or to sit in our parliament, if that person pledge allegiance to another state or power, And if that person has a passport from another state or power, by renewing that foreign Passport, The Constitution regards that act, as pledging allegiance to another power or sovereignty, Go online and read it for yourselves, because most of have not read our Constitution, we Just go by what people like Mark Golding tells us, Mark is a qualified Lawyer, and he knows that he's sitting in Jamaica's parliament illegally. Unless he relinquished his British Diplomatic Citizenship, Once he taken to the Supreme Court, he will not have any legs to stand on, Because I can assure you, someone in Jamaica will take this matter to Court for clarification, And when they do the Constitution will win. He cannot recover from this, Right now he is illegal in his political possession, politically, he is fatally wounded, and it is only a matter of Time that his party strip him of the leadership. I urged Jamaicans to go online, download and read Section 39, which speaks about the qualifications for members of parliament. Also read section 40 & 41, These are relevant to 39, Section 40 &41, speaks about the Disqualifications for members who do not qualify to sit in the houses of representatives.
@jasonakumetsu' according to the constitution section 40 & 41, he has broken the rule, What could be worse than an imposer with two allegiances becoming our leader ?
@@jay-sean424 Sue v Hill information comes from Wikipedia, Sue v Hill was a Australian Court case decided in the High Court of Australia on 23 June 1999, it concerned a dispute over the apparent return of a candidate, Heather Hill, To the Australian parliament in the 1998 federal election. Heather Hill won the election. The result was challenged on the basis That Hill was a dual citizen of the United Kingdom and Australia, And that section 44 ( i ) Of the Constitution of Australia prevents any person who is a citizen who is a citizen of a Foreign power from being elected to the parliament of Australia. The High Court found That, For the purposes of section 44 ( i ) The United Kingdom is a foreign power, even though it is a Commonwealth Country. This information can be read on Wikipedia.
@maureenoneil5914, What can be worst than an British imposer tricking us, and then becoming A potential Leader in our country, while he has pledged allegiance to King Charles ? Unnu Mad ? And we sit down and do nothing about it ?
Why was it a problem in 2007/08 but it is not now. Such hypocrisy and double standard! Even Shane Alexis the PNP MP had a problem with this. PJ Patterson gave up his British citizenship.
Mark Golding if you know you are not breaking the constitution.Don't give up your citizenship if it against the constitution give it up.but if it is not keep it.
The last time I checked the King of England was the head of State of Jamaica and the governor general is his representative. And what about Edward Seaga? He was born in the United States, wasn't he?
The constitution says he can hold dual citizenship as long as it's a commonwealth country. England is a commonwealth country. If people have a problem take it to the constitutional court.
@@raggaguru3432 Right!! I can imagine the slandering that would happen if a Jamaican tried to run for British Prime Minister under commonwealth citizenship. It would be all over the news and they would not allow that to happen.
@@islander5334 It is still the Constitution. Read it, and I can tell you that Marlene is still consulting with the governor general regarding changes to the Constitution. Who does the governor general represent?
@@RuminationWithAndrew This is not a matter of what’s in the constitution as the constitution was not written with the modern Jamaican in mind. It was drafted by our British colonisers which is partially why we are constructing a new one. Additionally, the governor general which represents the queen is a born Jamaican and does not have citizenship in any other countries- hence your point is null and void.
@@RuminationWithAndrew It is constitutionally allowed, however is it morally right? At one point many constitutions across the world permitted many atrocities, however, we have grown to realise that constitutions does not default to always being right or reflecting the needs of a modern society.
Talk to the PM about all the jobs given to non jamaican and selling out the country and benefiting from it. Mr. Golding is a born Jamaican. You should be interviewing the PM about not complying and showing his assets and how he acquired them. Shame on you all.
When the PNP lost the election they did take the Jamaica Labour party party to court , and they were all born in Jamaica . But because him have 1 foot in and 1 foot out out a England . He's has a dual citizenship, and him know she if dem come out a king Charles yard, him can't serve as a candidate for the PNP dat is why him a hold on to Kings Charles skirt . Him fi denounce his dual citizenship.
Markie G keep your citenship. All you people attacking Markie G, what have you done for Jamaica? Mark is a true Jamaican keep your inheritance you inherited from your father. Don't give it up. Them bad mind.
I believe that he did not married to a woman to get it, if he did then I would think twice, but he did not ask to get it. And I can tell you am a JLP supporter, I voted for JLP ever since I can vote, but this is one time I will not vote, but still not voting for PNP
They pulled this up in 07, why is it not a problem now? such double standard. Why only now is he planning not to renew a passport that expires this year. This means that he renewed it on his own volition while he was a member of the government whereas the constitution says this is a problem.
I completely agree that this is a distraction from the larger issues at hand. This is waste of space and time that he was naturalize by birth, he can't change that. His parents are British hence their kids are. Also how comes none of these politicians are talking about Edward Seaga he was born in USA, he was white and he was the PM. Also they are talking about his heritage most jamaican are mix with different ethnicity, its extremely difficult to find a 100% black jamaican. Also everyone who is attacking this white man for his race you are no better than the racism blacks face in the rest of the world. Also Andrew Holnes ancestors arent all black when he looks like that. Wake up
Jamaican Politicians please do more for the poor people of jamaica. Please give Mr. Golding a chance I think he could do for the people. His father has done a lot for jamaica. THE MONA REHABILITATION CENTER FOR THE DISABLED PEOPLE THAT CONTRIBUTION SPEAK VOLUMES. JAMAICA'S HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS BELOW STANDARD. JAMAICA DOESN'T HAVE A BURN UNIT IN THEIR HOSPITAL. THE GOVERNMENT NEED TO CREATE A CENTRAL FOOD BANK, BETTER ROADS IN RURAL AREAS. MORE COMMUNITY CLINICS. I THINK MR. GOLDING IS SINCERE AND HONEST. JAMAICA NEED A PRIME MINISTER IN OFFICE WHO WILL SERVE THE PEOPLE AND THE COUNTRY.
The most powerful politician of a nation should be born there and only have citizenship there. There should not even be a question as to that person's loyalties. When things go bad, he should have to stay and fix it, not run off to his other nation. This applies to every national leader, not just Golding.
So you have a British passport and you apply for a British visa, that makes sense. So from you were a child you got a British passport because of your parents? So you never renewed it from then?
So the country courting people who are dual citizen for tourism and investment in the country. Then treating them like 2nd class citizens because these people could take their jobs in government.
@alclarke6648, people are allowed to have and keep their dual citizenship, As long as They don't enter our parliament making laws for us, if they want to serve in the parliament, Then all they have to do is renounce their foreign citizenship, What is so difficult for people to understand ?
Obamn relinquished is citizenship @ 21 dont try use that.. you will never see that seat if youre not willing to relinquish your citizenship for the Jamaican people it shouldn’t even be a question
I went to england could not get medical help without a hifty fine because they jamaica is not in the commonwealth it was controversal when the other side had that propblem hinseforth the song my leader born yah give birth what good for the goose good for the gander
Mark needs to understand it's not a distraction but people question whether or not he truly cares about Jamaica's issues! He has done things that never happened in Parliament before!
Opposition Leader Golding is a very ambitious Jamaican with sound academic achievements. Rep Golding dual citizenship should not be the deciding factor who has political aspirations to serve Jamaica. Similar to the current PM Holness. Rep Golding should be granted the opportunity to lead Jamaica.
I can bet anyhow this was the Present PM of Jamaica all who defending his 'one foot in n one foot out' stance uno would a blast the PM n tell him to resign, but no cause a political allegiance uno cant see past the bigger issue!
The PNP behaves like Jamaica was willed to them, one set of rukes for the JLP but they should be allowed to 'run wid it'. Even the civil society groups, the way they attack the Government while applauding the Opposition, makes you wonder? By the way, speaking of civil society, his certification by the Integrity Commission does not include anything that he owns in England so it is not yet certifiable.
@user-cg1yf8yq5t wrong, very wrong. The vienna Convention of 1961 changed that. Children of diplomats are not citizens of the country their parents are stationed. Even if they are born there. They are citizens of their parents' country.
Glad that y'all journalist didn't gave Mark Golding a free pass. The issue at hand is; Mark Golding renewed his British Passport when it expired (thus pledging allegiance to a sovereign State - by his own volition). Which is disqualifying in the Jamaican Constitution - Section 39&40. Stop trying to hoodwink the J'can people, Mark. Renounce the British Monarchy - Or, lawyer up and see you in Court.
What did Andrew did for Jamaica except enrich his self and his family. What about his statutory declaration? He swore to the queen, so he’s the one not to be trusted..
@@rodrickspence6333 name out five things that the JLP did for Jamaica 🇯🇲. Then we can talk. Everything that the JLP did was off the back of the PNP nothing of substance, but to enrich their self.
@sandragreen7698 your reasoning ability is very limited , the question her is not about PNP or JLP it's about ethics and moral principles get it through your thick skull so if it was even Holiness the same thing applies
@@sandragreen7698 The mindset you are entrapped in, only PNP work for Jamaica who was in charge during FINSAC? When I checked the records/history (Thank God it is documented) Jamaica did its best under JLP administrations
When these hosts feel like they are asking hard hitting questions. Waste of the Mr. Golding time. This is not even a subject matter worth discussing. The man is fully compliant and within the remit of the constitution.
Your common sense is under your foot bottom. The man is a born Jamaican, never live anywhere else but Jamaica. PM Andrew swear to the queen to be on the privy Council. Mark got his citizenship from his dad born in the UK. how much of the other candidate has dual citizen? Don’t throw stone if you live in a glass house. Use your common sense if you have one.
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It's not required by the constitution but by the people. Just renounce it and done. It's clearly a conflict of interest and seems you are derailing the process of becoming a republic for your own personal gains.
Mark Golding Father and Mother were sent to Jamaica on two British diplomatic passport, Diplomats whose children are born overseas are citizen of their parents Country, Mark Golding and his siblings are British Nationals, Mark and his sister was never Registered in Jamaica ( That's why he cannot come up with a Jamaican birth certificate ) to silent his critics, Section 39 of the Jamaica Constitution shows who can Qualify to sit in the parliament, And that includes every Commonwealth Citizen, Who want to enter parliament, must have lived in the Country for no less than 12 months before an election or nomination, So if section 39 is taken by itself, it has always been thought that a person is in contravention if their citizenship is in a Non-Commonwealth country, or a country not part of the Common- Wealth, And Jamaicans who had American citizenships were taken to court by the PNP's in 2007, saying that They Should not be in The Parliament, because they were disqualified by The Constitution, And the Courts sided with them back then, Section 40 says if you were born in Jamaica, and you went to another Commonwealth Country, and apply for citizenship in that Commonwealth country, Then return to Jamaica and want to be elected, you first have to renounce That Canadian or British Citizenship before you can become eligible. Because you would have been disqualified under section 40 of the constitution, Section 40.2, says, No person shall be qualified to be appointed As a Senator or elected as a member of the House of Representatives, Who by virtue of his/her own act ( action )under any acknowledgement of Allegiance, Obedience, Or adherence to a foreign Power or State, hold or is acting in any public office, Again, it is plainly written in our Constitution, anyone who pledge allegiance to another power, even if that Power is a Commonwealth Country, That person have disqualified himself/herself from holding Any public office, most of us only look at section 39, and forget that section 39 is subject to section 40, British passports are normally valid for ten years, So if Mark Golding's father got him one as a child, he must have been renewing it periodically, And that act of renewing his British passport, according to Jamaica's constitution 40.2, disqualify him from holding any public office. Mark Golding's first Jamaican Passport was given to him when he was 46 or 47 years old, And that was a Jamaican diplomatic passport. Before, he had always travel on his British passport, So Mark is not telling the truth here, furthermore, As a British citizen he would not need to apply for a visa to travel to the United States or to the United Kingdom, I suggest that people also read section 41.( 1 B ) of the Constitution, it can be down loaded Online, it shows That Mark Golding is sitting in public office illegally since 2007, And I can see this issue Ending up in the Supreme Court. Mark Golding used the terminology, one foot in, and one foot out, to describe Andrew Holness's phase withdrawal from the British Crown, But it has come back to haunt him, because Andrew Holness has no problem with his citizenship.
There’s absolutely no excuse for this Mark…do the ethical thing and denounce this British Citizenship.. a man can’t serve two masters…this is ridiculous
how can a politician with dual citizenship be loyal to the country with which they serve? the simple fact that he has dual citizenship should show that he has also dual loyalty. this particular racial-religious group has a very long and documented history of holding dual loyalty.
Come on, constitution reform is the reason why this matter, because to address our own autonomy as a country , and so why not establish plausible cause why we should not go forward with our constitution reform because your loyalty is toward other sovereign nation , Jamaican can need to be inclusive of their autonomy under our constitution and its privilege.
Devine help🇯🇲; so what. Many Jamaicans had fore parents who were slave owners; including some former slaves. Let’s live in the present & fix our society. Divide & conquer is what’s happening in 🇯🇲.
Section 39 is subject to section 40 which is clearly states (a) by virtue of his own act, under any acknowledgment or allegiance, obedience or adherence to a foreign power or state.
There’s nothing wrong with dual citizenship for the purposes of travel, seeking healthcare, owning property, voting, etc. but if you’re going to *lead* a country, you shouldn’t have one foot in one foot out. If you mash up the country, you’re not going to want to live with those conditions. You’re going to get on the next available flight to London or wherever your passport will allow you to enter. It’s the same reason Ted Cruz (when he was a presidential candidate) was asked to renounce his Canadian citizenship. A leader of the country is charged with its national interests, and dual allegiance compromises that. This Commonwealth argument is nonsense. Jamaicans cannot even enter the UK for tourism without applying for a visa. The same with Canada and Australia. Why is there such favoritism towards these Commonwealth nations when that favor is not reciprocated? SMH.
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Even if the PM LOST AND MIGRATED, HE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE Jamaica WITHOUT FACING THE IC AND CLEAR THE LAST YEARS OF INNOCENT IC CHARGES. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Andrew's insistence on Mark's renunciation of his British citizenship can be described disingenuous at best & stupid at its worst. Andrew who continues to flout the constitution, is not making this pronouncement in Jamaica's and Jamaicans' interest but his own. Boy bye
He is a born Jamaican, dual Citizenship should be the least of the problems affecting Jamaica.
Hahahha, how can you be a dual citizen and the PM of a country??? Do u think that would fly in any other country???
The other MPs with dual citizenship were also born Jamaicans.
Where in Jamaica was he born?😂
He applied for a British passport in 2014 while he was a member of the government.
@@normannicholas3722 Lies, That's not what Mark Golding said, please rewind
and listen again, He said, I do have British Citizenship by descent, So, now we all
know that he's a British citizen, this is something he never told us before, Jamaica's
immigration record shows that his first Jamaican passport was given to him
When he was 46 or 47 years old, Why would he need to apply for a British passport
if he is a British citizen ?To travel to the U.K. That does not add up.
The Leader of the Opposition is a Jamaican.
can u prove that?😂
Not by birth😂
@safia59 most of us believe that he is a Jamaican, but we have no official record
such as a Jamaican birth certificate to prove that he is, we cannot rely on what he
Tells us, for most of his life he knew that he was a British citizen, but he never told
anyone until just days ago, How can we trust such a person to lead our country ?
even his alleged Jamaican citizenship have not yet been officially confirmed. So we
don't even know if he's a Jamaican, Mark's Father and Mother were sent to Jamaica
on British diplomatic passports, And Mark is most probably still a British diplomat
in Jamaica. we just don't know, Why can't he just give it up ? renounces it and pledge
his Allegiance to Jamaica only ? Think about that.
Well spoken Bruce Golding. Being a duel citizen of the common wealth is different from being , for example, a citizen of the USA or China. He was born with it and it’s legal. He uses his Jamaican passport for travel. Change the constitution or let the matter rest.
I would like to advise comrade mark Golding not to give up his dual citizenship until when Jamaica fully goes Republic, not before that day. Because Jamaica is still a British colony and,as the constitution said. Once you are a citizen of any commonwealth country, you can hold any office in Jamaica. I have travel to England several times and,I never got a visa to enter. During my time going to England all you are required to enter,is a letter of invitation from the person you are going to. You can have a visa from Jamaica on reaching England, they still can turn you back. I was married in England 34 years ago so, I know what am saying. My father went to England in 1957 lived there for years, before migrated to the United States.
All these people in Jamaica who is claiming that they are constitutional lawyers or whatever they are, some of those have no damn sense at all. I was at the national stadium 🏟️ in 1962 when Jamaica gained this so-called independence august 6 th 1962 and , still don't really change from England. Because Jamaica is still a colony also a subject of England, because from 1962 the Jlp party government ministers them refused from break away from England. The greatest changes Jamaica has made since 1962 is, when the pnp party won election. The great Micheal Manley and his administration colleagues ministers them, changes a lot of things. For the betterment of the people of Jamaica, so I tried to avoid the younger generation them. B
If his citizenship doesn't break the rules, why all the noise around this? This is a waste of time. Much worse issues to address.
@jasonakumetsu4929, if we only read section 39 of the Jamaica Constitution, he hasn't
Broken any rules, and that's because section 39 only specify the qualification process for
A person to be eligible to sit in our parliament, However, if we read section 40.2, as well,
because section 39 is subject to section 40 and 41, section 40 and 41 legally, disqualified
Anyone, from a Commonwealth or Non-Commonwealth Country from holding any office
Or to sit in our parliament, if that person pledge allegiance to another state or power,
And if that person has a passport from another state or power, by renewing that foreign
Passport, The Constitution regards that act, as pledging allegiance to another power
or sovereignty, Go online and read it for yourselves, because most of have not read our
Constitution, we Just go by what people like Mark Golding tells us, Mark is a qualified Lawyer,
and he knows that he's sitting in Jamaica's parliament illegally. Unless he relinquished his
British Diplomatic Citizenship, Once he taken to the Supreme Court, he will not have any
legs to stand on,
Because I can assure you, someone in Jamaica will take this matter to Court for clarification,
And when they do the Constitution will win. He cannot recover from this, Right now he is
illegal in his political possession, politically, he is fatally wounded, and it is only a matter of
Time that his party strip him of the leadership. I urged Jamaicans to go online, download
and read Section 39, which speaks about the qualifications for members of parliament.
Also read section 40 & 41, These are relevant to 39, Section 40 &41, speaks about the Disqualifications
for members who do not qualify to sit in the houses of representatives.
@jasonakumetsu' according to the constitution section 40 & 41, he has broken the rule,
What could be worse than an imposer with two allegiances becoming our leader ?
Vaz did has to renounce his American citizenship...so mark has to do the same if him want to remain in government
@@jay-sean424 Sue v Hill information comes from Wikipedia, Sue v Hill was a Australian
Court case decided in the High Court of Australia on 23 June 1999, it concerned a dispute
over the apparent return of a candidate, Heather Hill, To the Australian parliament in the
1998 federal election. Heather Hill won the election. The result was challenged on the basis
That Hill was a dual citizen of the United Kingdom and Australia, And that section 44 ( i )
Of the Constitution of Australia prevents any person who is a citizen who is a citizen of a
Foreign power from being elected to the parliament of Australia. The High Court found That,
For the purposes of section 44 ( i ) The United Kingdom is a foreign power, even though it is a
Commonwealth Country. This information can be read on Wikipedia.
@rtee4086 that is incorrect, so spreading nonsense.
Stay strong,Mark Golding, they cant move you, you are a treat to Holness and jlp.
Him a treat to him self lied
Jamaica have worst problem to solve, instead of focusing on Mark Golding. So many unsolved cases
Amen
Well he’ll never be the PM so much ado about nothing…..he needs to do the right thing…no dual citizen should never be a head of state
We can multi task. This wants our attention too
@maureenoneil5914, What can be worst than an British imposer tricking us, and then becoming
A potential Leader in our country, while he has pledged allegiance to King Charles ? Unnu Mad ?
And we sit down and do nothing about it ?
Why was it a problem in 2007/08 but it is not now. Such hypocrisy and double standard! Even Shane Alexis the PNP MP had a problem with this. PJ Patterson gave up his British citizenship.
Oh lord lady, he said enough. What else do you need from this man
Your father achievement is your father achievement , every tub must sit on its own bottom, this situation is a matter of law not political.
I don't think he should give up his British citizenship since Jamaica is still a member of the the commonwealth
Mark Golding if you know you are not breaking the constitution.Don't give up your citizenship if it against the constitution give it up.but if it is not keep it.
Such a Noble man
How does this man not see his own hypocrisy!??
Because hypocrisy is the Jewish way. They’re loyal to their tribe before anything.
The last time I checked the King of England was the head of State of Jamaica and the governor general is his representative. And what about Edward Seaga? He was born in the United States, wasn't he?
Yes he was dimwit, but he renounced his US citizenship in 1959…he did the moral and ethical thing
A fool them take ppl for
People still a talk about Seaga in 2024
Stop lying if it was the pm in your situation you would not be sitting there sugar coating this interview
@@Racine-v6lexactly plus the fact that he couldn't give a clear No answer tells how he takes us for fools
Dunce argument from them two women them don't have nothing good to ask
exactly
The constitution says he can hold dual citizenship as long as it's a commonwealth country. England is a commonwealth country. If people have a problem take it to the constitutional court.
Isn't Canada also part of the Commonwealth? And they still question Shane Alexis when he was running.
@@Mrs.T305 Do you think, the British or the Australian will allow a commonwealth Jamaican to be their prime minister. Really, think about it for a min
Exactly my brother…..no other country would abide by this nonsense….he’s a real narcissist…
@@raggaguru3432 Right!! I can imagine the slandering that would happen if a Jamaican tried to run for British Prime Minister under commonwealth citizenship. It would be all over the news and they would not allow that to happen.
@islander5334. Exactly. It’s sad the amount of people on here defending this
A dual citizen should not hold the highest office in Jamaica. That's plain common sense.
It is not common sense. It is what the Constitution says.
@@RuminationWithAndrew What constitution? The constitution wrote by the a British that we are changing?
@@islander5334 It is still the Constitution. Read it, and I can tell you that Marlene is still consulting with the governor general regarding changes to the Constitution. Who does the governor general represent?
@@RuminationWithAndrew This is not a matter of what’s in the constitution as the constitution was not written with the modern Jamaican in mind. It was drafted by our British colonisers which is partially why we are constructing a new one. Additionally, the governor general which represents the queen is a born Jamaican and does not have citizenship in any other countries- hence your point is null and void.
@@RuminationWithAndrew It is constitutionally allowed, however is it morally right? At one point many constitutions across the world permitted many atrocities, however, we have grown to realise that constitutions does not default to always being right or reflecting the needs of a modern society.
Talk to the PM about all the jobs given to non jamaican and selling out the country and benefiting from it. Mr. Golding is a born Jamaican. You should be interviewing the PM about not complying and showing his assets and how he acquired them. Shame on you all.
When the PNP lost the election they did take the Jamaica Labour party party to court , and they were all born in Jamaica . But because him have 1 foot in and 1 foot out out a England . He's has a dual citizenship, and him know she if dem come out a king Charles yard, him can't serve as a candidate for the PNP dat is why him a hold on to Kings Charles skirt . Him fi denounce his dual citizenship.
Where is markie g asset not even a house he said he own here
Markie G keep your citenship. All you people attacking Markie G, what have you done for Jamaica?
Mark is a true Jamaican keep your inheritance you inherited from your father.
Don't give it up. Them bad mind.
I believe that he did not married to a woman to get it, if he did then I would think twice, but he did not ask to get it. And I can tell you am a JLP supporter, I voted for JLP ever since I can vote, but this is one time I will not vote, but still not voting for PNP
Wah him do fi ja..??
They pulled this up in 07, why is it not a problem now? such double standard.
Why only now is he planning not to renew a passport that expires this year. This means that he renewed it on his own volition while he was a member of the government whereas the constitution says this is a problem.
Just give up yu dual citizenship youth, 2015 election season unu campaign on Andrew big house when the constitution never say he can't own a big house
Lol 😂so right
Show the country your birth certificate.
No politician should have two citizenship
Okay so Babsy and Karl Samuda should not
Barack Obama did not have Kenyan citizenship though.
He renewed his British passport, which disqualified him , based onsectionsn 40 and 39 of the Jamaican constitution
@@blacknile1354 Take it to the courts
I completely agree that this is a distraction from the larger issues at hand. This is waste of space and time that he was naturalize by birth, he can't change that. His parents are British hence their kids are.
Also how comes none of these politicians are talking about Edward Seaga he was born in USA, he was white and he was the PM. Also they are talking about his heritage most jamaican are mix with different ethnicity, its extremely difficult to find a 100% black jamaican. Also everyone who is attacking this white man for his race you are no better than the racism blacks face in the rest of the world.
Also Andrew Holnes ancestors arent all black when he looks like that.
Wake up
Do right things mark
Jamaican Politicians please do more for the poor people of jamaica. Please give Mr. Golding a chance I think he could do for the people. His father has done a lot for jamaica. THE MONA REHABILITATION CENTER FOR THE DISABLED PEOPLE THAT CONTRIBUTION SPEAK VOLUMES. JAMAICA'S HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS BELOW STANDARD. JAMAICA DOESN'T HAVE A BURN UNIT IN THEIR HOSPITAL. THE GOVERNMENT NEED TO CREATE A CENTRAL FOOD BANK, BETTER ROADS IN RURAL AREAS. MORE COMMUNITY CLINICS. I THINK MR. GOLDING IS SINCERE AND HONEST. JAMAICA NEED A PRIME MINISTER IN OFFICE WHO WILL SERVE THE PEOPLE AND THE COUNTRY.
Politics mr golding u are a jamaican and we need u bigger issues are here to deal with
Big up your self markie g
Now that i understand how he has his dual citizenship I SUPPORT HIM 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 I'M JAMAICAN BUT ELIGIBLE FOR CHINESE CITIZENSHIP BY DECENT!
The most powerful politician of a nation should be born there and only have citizenship there. There should not even be a question as to that person's loyalties. When things go bad, he should have to stay and fix it, not run off to his other nation. This applies to every national leader, not just Golding.
My case is closed in the birth certificate matter. My take on this is, Just show the country your birth certificate and quiet those people.
This is not about your father. It's about Mr. Golding.
If is dad was a criminal in Jamaica would accept been stereotype ?
1 Markie G!!!
How can he say that there has been no public debate about his status? Bwoy him delusional and lie bad!
So you have a British passport and you apply for a British visa, that makes sense. So from you were a child you got a British passport because of your parents? So you never renewed it from then?
So the country courting people who are dual citizen for tourism and investment in the country. Then treating them like 2nd class citizens because these people could take their jobs in government.
@alclarke6648, people are allowed to have and keep their dual citizenship, As long as
They don't enter our parliament making laws for us, if they want to serve in the parliament,
Then all they have to do is renounce their foreign citizenship, What is so difficult for people
to understand ?
All politicians are USELESS
Obamn relinquished is citizenship @ 21 dont try use that.. you will never see that seat if youre not willing to relinquish your citizenship for the Jamaican people it shouldn’t even be a question
Andrew Holness must go period
I heard you say this is a attack on your skin shame because you were there when you all attack Eddie on the colour of his skin.😮😮
Same thing me say. Same knife wha stick sheep a jook d goat now!
This fool should not even be a MP
Is what he’s not one of ur favorite? Just a question
I went to england could not get medical help without a hifty fine because they jamaica is not in the commonwealth it was controversal when the other side had that propblem hinseforth the song my leader born yah give birth what good for the goose good for the gander
Are we to understand that a British Passport has no expiry date?
?
He said he has renewed it
But he now only uses his Jamaican passport
And he wont be renewing rhe British passport
Mark needs to understand it's not a distraction but people question whether or not he truly cares about Jamaica's issues!
He has done things that never happened in Parliament before!
Check Articles 39 for qualifications and 40 for disqualifications
Opposition Leader Golding is a very ambitious Jamaican with sound academic achievements. Rep Golding dual citizenship should not be the deciding factor who has political aspirations to serve Jamaica.
Similar to the current PM Holness. Rep Golding should be granted the opportunity to lead Jamaica.
Big up Mark Golding 👏 🙌🏻 💪 👌
Stand firm jamaica's its about the chain releasing incident for me
I can bet anyhow this was the Present PM of Jamaica all who defending his 'one foot in n one foot out' stance uno would a blast the PM n tell him to resign, but no cause a political allegiance uno cant see past the bigger issue!
The PNP behaves like Jamaica was willed to them, one set of rukes for the JLP but they should be allowed to 'run wid it'.
Even the civil society groups, the way they attack the Government while applauding the Opposition, makes you wonder?
By the way, speaking of civil society, his certification by the Integrity Commission does not include anything that he owns in England so it is not yet certifiable.
He is not a Jamaican citizen. His father was a diplomat
Did u know his mom is a Jamaican?
@HilaryBrooks-pc9kq show us is birth certificate
Anywhere you born that's where you from no matter where your parents from
@user-cg1yf8yq5t wrong, very wrong. The vienna Convention of 1961 changed that. Children of diplomats are not citizens of the country their parents are stationed. Even if they are born there. They are citizens of their parents' country.
No convention can't determine where you born that's your parents choice you born a Jamaica you are a Jamaican simple
dont given it up keep it
Show your birth paper
Right now!
U going to move U might run away people wake up and don't see u
Glad that y'all journalist didn't gave Mark Golding a free pass. The issue at hand is; Mark Golding renewed his British Passport when it expired (thus pledging allegiance to a sovereign State - by his own volition). Which is disqualifying in the Jamaican Constitution - Section 39&40. Stop trying to hoodwink the J'can people, Mark. Renounce the British Monarchy - Or, lawyer up and see you in Court.
What did Andrew did for Jamaica except enrich his self and his family. What about his statutory declaration? He swore to the queen, so he’s the one not to be trusted..
What’s your point??????? Mark is the one with the dual citizenship
B4 u chat check how much pnp sell out
@@rodrickspence6333 name out five things that the JLP did for Jamaica 🇯🇲. Then we can talk. Everything that the JLP did was off the back of the PNP nothing of substance, but to enrich their self.
@sandragreen7698 your reasoning ability is very limited , the question her is not about PNP or JLP it's about ethics and moral principles get it through your thick skull so if it was even Holiness the same thing applies
@@sandragreen7698 The mindset you are entrapped in, only PNP work for Jamaica
who was in charge during FINSAC?
When I checked the records/history (Thank God it is documented) Jamaica did its best under JLP administrations
How do you explain sections 39 and 40 of the constitution of Jamaica?
Take it to the courts
When these hosts feel like they are asking hard hitting questions. Waste of the Mr. Golding time. This is not even a subject matter worth discussing. The man is fully compliant and within the remit of the constitution.
GUH DEH ""NO LEGENCE TO ANY OTHER COUNTRY‼️""😡😡😡🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Your common sense is under your foot bottom. The man is a born Jamaican, never live anywhere else but Jamaica. PM Andrew swear to the queen to be on the privy Council. Mark got his citizenship from his dad born in the UK. how much of the other candidate has dual citizen? Don’t throw stone if you live in a glass house. Use your common sense if you have one.
❤ GOOD MORNING BEAUTIFUL 😍 JAMAICA 🇯🇲.. YOU HAVE A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF YOU COMRADE LEADER MR MARK 😀 GOLDING WHEN YOU ARE PRIME MINISTER OF OUR BEAUTIFUL JAMAICA 🇯🇲.
It's not required by the constitution but by the people. Just renounce it and done. It's clearly a conflict of interest and seems you are derailing the process of becoming a republic for your own personal gains.
Andrew Holness dual citizen status and the implementations for Jamaica.
Mark Golding Father and Mother were sent to Jamaica on two British diplomatic passport,
Diplomats whose children are born overseas are citizen of their parents Country, Mark
Golding and his siblings are British Nationals, Mark and his sister was never Registered
in Jamaica ( That's why he cannot come up with a Jamaican birth certificate ) to silent his
critics, Section 39 of the Jamaica Constitution shows who can Qualify to sit in the parliament,
And that includes every Commonwealth Citizen, Who want to enter parliament, must have
lived in the Country for no less than 12 months before an election or nomination,
So if section 39 is taken by itself, it has always been thought that a person is in contravention
if their citizenship is in a Non-Commonwealth country, or a country not part of the Common-
Wealth, And Jamaicans who had American citizenships were taken to court by the PNP's in
2007, saying that They Should not be in The Parliament, because they were disqualified by
The Constitution, And the Courts sided with them back then, Section 40 says if you were born
in Jamaica, and you went to another Commonwealth Country, and apply for citizenship in that
Commonwealth country, Then return to Jamaica and want to be elected, you first have to renounce
That Canadian or British Citizenship before you can become eligible.
Because you would have been disqualified under section 40 of the constitution, Section 40.2, says,
No person shall be qualified to be appointed As a Senator or elected as a member of the House of
Representatives, Who by virtue of his/her own act ( action )under any acknowledgement of Allegiance,
Obedience, Or adherence to a foreign Power or State, hold or is acting in any public office, Again,
it is plainly written in our Constitution, anyone who pledge allegiance to another power, even if that
Power is a Commonwealth Country, That person have disqualified himself/herself from holding
Any public office, most of us only look at section 39, and forget that section 39 is subject to section 40,
British passports are normally valid for ten years, So if Mark Golding's father got him one as a child, he
must have been renewing it periodically, And that act of renewing his British passport, according to
Jamaica's constitution 40.2, disqualify him from holding any public office. Mark Golding's first Jamaican
Passport was given to him when he was 46 or 47 years old, And that was a Jamaican diplomatic passport.
Before, he had always travel on his British passport, So Mark is not telling the truth here, furthermore,
As a British citizen he would not need to apply for a visa to travel to the United States or to the United
Kingdom, I suggest that people also read section 41.( 1 B ) of the Constitution, it can be down loaded
Online, it shows That Mark Golding is sitting in public office illegally since 2007, And I can see this issue
Ending up in the Supreme Court.
Mark Golding used the terminology, one foot in, and one foot out, to describe Andrew Holness's phase
withdrawal from the British Crown, But it has come back to haunt him, because Andrew Holness has no
problem with his citizenship.
Take it to the court
Dont give it up. Stick to what the Constitution requires.
Markie G conscience dead. Why did he lie first?
DO NOT Sir. NEVER Let Bobsy give up her Canadian citizenship 😮
Only a Jamaican can lead Jamaican
The only non Jamaican that led us properly was Ed Seaga
@@Jerrysislandexactly 😂
There’s absolutely no excuse for this Mark…do the ethical thing and denounce this British Citizenship.. a man can’t serve two masters…this is ridiculous
No dual citizen should be a leader of opposition or a PM…nonsense
Change the Constitution
@ noelbartley1084, Mark Golding is trying to keep Jamaica under British rule,
That's why he is trying to stop
Us changing our constitution.
Why was it a secret for so long
how can a politician with dual citizenship be loyal to the country with which they serve? the simple fact that he has dual citizenship should show that he has also dual loyalty.
this particular racial-religious group has a very long and documented history of holding dual loyalty.
Come on, constitution reform is the reason why this matter, because to address our own autonomy as a country , and so why not establish plausible cause why we should not go forward with our constitution reform because your loyalty is toward other sovereign nation , Jamaican can need to be inclusive of their autonomy under our constitution and its privilege.
Cast of living is a issue all over the world. And the government doesn't increase not one thing.
But didn't Shane Alexis have a problem when he disclosed that he was born in Canada. Isn't Canada part of the commonwealth?
Don’t give it up
So why you don't talk about your self you were not born in Jamaica
Of the constitution
No distraction!
My leader fi look like mi.
No, you’re leader will be a jew and there’s nothing you can do about it.
If he is
Did you know, Mark Golding, the opposition leader in Jamaica. Grandparents was a slave master.
Devine help🇯🇲; so what. Many Jamaicans had fore parents who were slave owners; including some former slaves. Let’s live in the present & fix our society. Divide & conquer is what’s happening in 🇯🇲.
Section 39 is subject to section 40 which is clearly states (a) by virtue of his own act, under any acknowledgment or allegiance, obedience or adherence to a foreign power or state.
There’s nothing wrong with dual citizenship for the purposes of travel, seeking healthcare, owning property, voting, etc. but if you’re going to *lead* a country, you shouldn’t have one foot in one foot out.
If you mash up the country, you’re not going to want to live with those conditions. You’re going to get on the next available flight to London or wherever your passport will allow you to enter. It’s the same reason Ted Cruz (when he was a presidential candidate) was asked to renounce his Canadian citizenship. A leader of the country is charged with its national interests, and dual allegiance compromises that. This Commonwealth argument is nonsense.
Jamaicans cannot even enter the UK for tourism without applying for a visa. The same with Canada and Australia.
Why is there such favoritism towards these Commonwealth nations when that favor is not reciprocated?
SMH.
PRAY ABOUT ""NOT"" PRAY ON‼️👏👏👏🤣🤣🤣🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
I think Massachusetts is a commonwealth state of the USA
Markie yuh a spy
Brian vs Brian Man's flight through space depends on his#?
The full information. Is in the jamaican constitution. Mark is smart he should read and interpret the constitution properly.
Lol poor mark desperate fi power
TVJ, SIMONE CLARKE, DALIAH HARRIS UNO MOVVVVVEEEE!!!!!!! AND GWEH!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF ME SEE ANYONE ONE A UNO FACE TO FACE ME DISS UNO UP BRAWLING FI UNO POLITICALLY MOTIVATED QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!
Jamaica need a Black man/Black woman time of at least 400 years self Black (anti colonial minded) governance to heal the embedded self hatred enslaved trauma.......
Lady the PM is a fool do not follow him an ask stupid question jamaica is a country of rules and laws we do not work off what people think.
Media in Jamaica is so stupid the question 🙋♂️ they ask is insane, don’t do something that’s illegal, your not doing anything illegal stay strong
OUR CONSTITUTION DOES ""NOT"" REQUIRE YOU TO GIVE UP YOUR BRITISH NATIONALITY‼️😡😡😡🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
YOU GIVING UP YOUR INHERITED CITIZENSHIP IS SAY VYBE CARTEL GUILTY VERDICT BY DIRTY EVIDENCE IS LEGAL WHETHER HE IS GUILTY OR NOT‼️😡😡😡🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Marky British announced his own victory in the local elections.....anything else a gravy pon di top......it's speaks to a mind
Your father has not been blame for anything here the ball is in your court. You people would do same if the shoes was on the other foot.
Ask Google
What you people really trying questioning a born Jamaican about crap tvj please do better and the comments tells the reason for the re-upload 😂😂
Even if the PM LOST AND MIGRATED, HE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE Jamaica WITHOUT FACING THE IC AND CLEAR THE LAST YEARS OF INNOCENT IC CHARGES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Stop your nonsense, all of you are going to eat your words.
Andrew's insistence on Mark's renunciation of his British citizenship can be described disingenuous at best & stupid at its worst. Andrew who continues to flout the constitution, is not making this pronouncement in Jamaica's and Jamaicans' interest but his own. Boy bye
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As i am looking atarticle 40 it is not the ok