Thank god that Phanpy can learn mud-slap from the TM Falkner gives you, otherwise you would have to grind to level 33 so that it can hit Mortys ghost pokemon with roll-out!
The TM for Rollout is just north of Goldenrod, so that would be an option instead of doing the training. Annoying, but thematic, that this little Elephant doesn't get Dig.
Since scarlet and violet came out, donphan has grown to become my favourite pokemon. Great tusk and iron treads are also awesome, but they've really made me appreciate just how cool the base form is.
I've always liked Phanpy and Donphan but never really got the chance to use one in a playthrough. Doesn't help that in the first few gens its either late-game or gets no good STAB options until very late. That being said its nice they've given it and its counterpart of Ursaring some attention. Funny enough Ursaring also became a Ground-type when it gained its evolution in Ursaluna. Guess it comes full circle?
Who is Iron Threads? I've only heard about the former, who is clearly awesome, my favourite paradox and basically a Mega Donphan, both in design and gameplay.
@@charizard7666 In all seriousness, Iron threads is just so forgettable compared to Great tusk, both in design and competitive (You might have seen some great tusk on action, but there were only 4 Iron threads in a 780 VGC tournament compared to 131 Great tusk)
Phanpy is such a cute and cool Pokemon design. I actually think it's really neat that Phanpy gets Water Gun through breeding when Donphan breeds with a male Quagsire. Quagsire can also give Phanpy Ancientpower and Body Slam through breeding. Also I believe Sage Li's name in the manga translates to Elder Li which is a play on the word elderly.
I'm pretty sure that's also true in HGSS - the "Elder Li" part. As for Water Gun Phanpy...why'd they remove that? Sure, Ice Shard is way more useful, but it's not as fun or 'logical' as Water Gun.
@@PokeMaster22222 I know Water Gun and maybe Hydro Cannon should be given to Donphan that would have been cool even though they are special moves it would just be canon with their design.
@Leah Beth iktr.. was gonna say I was just discussing Pokémon favourites and teams with my fianceé the other day and I made two points: Mareep is part of my goat team but isn't available in crystal which is bullshit And in gen3, MUDKIPZ. ALWAYS MUDKIPZ
38:50 Phampy out here ejecting sus Team Rocket from Electrode electrical with its tiny amongus feet. What a good crewmate. Thanks for the upload! Cool to see some of the Twitch stream for one side of your production cycle, then RUclips for the final part!
Early on tackle is doing just marginally more damage than mudslap (it really is only a slight difference) But mudslap also has the accuracy lowering effect which more than makes up for the slight loss in damage in my opinion. That being said, mudslap does have PP problems if you use it too often..
I think you should've gone into the Bugsy fight pre-damaged (maybe around 40% HP), such that you can setup on and live the Metapod/Kakuna attacks and have high-powered Flails for Scyther's first two Fury Cutters
This video gives me so many good memories. My first time playing Crystal I had a Phanpy. I went to route 46 to catch a Jigglypuff, like I did in Silver, and there it was, a cute little baby elephant. The first one fled, and I didn't even know a non-legendary beast could do that at the time. So I bought more pokéballs, went back there and walked around that grass until I was able to catch one. He is so good for early game, as you said, good HP, attack and defense, evolves at level 25, Donphan learns Earthquake considerably early. Top tier mon for a Crystal run, no doubt.
To be honest, while idk if you would want to do it, I personally think it’s reasonable to pause the timer while you get HM Pokémon. While I haven’t posted anything, I’ve recorded a few Gen 3 challenges and before I enter the forest I pause the timer, go back, catch every HM Pokémon needed for the rest of the game, walk back to point I was at then start the timer again. I also pause the timer when boxing hm Pokémon for gyms, as I think cause HM Pokémon are mandatory and in every run they shouldn’t really count towards time, especially since they made a few seconds of variance depending on whether or not you actually get the one you need in random encounters. So with the Psyduck you could pause the time just to get the optimal HM poke,on for your runs without worrying about how they impact game time.
Probably not. This is way more complicated than it sounds. And for other generations it isn’t fair. I want to avoid generation specific rules if possible.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemonRuns between generations aren't really comparable, so it doesn't really matter if one has exceptions and the other doesn't. The results are going to be completely different no matter what.
One thing I think might have made the Bugsy fight easier - though also even less consistent - set up less defense curls. Scyther's fury cutter would do more damage and you might get better flail ranges earlier on in the fight. Plus, a reset would be less costly time-wise as the battles would be shorter.
So animals with hooves are called ungulates, which means that they walk on sort of a modified nail. Elephants are part of a group called sub-ungulates -- their feet are just that -- feet, and they walk on their tip-toes, so even though it's close to the modified nail, it's not actually on it. They also have a fat sac under their heels to make the impact of walking on their tip-toes less. tl;dr, Phanpy has feet.
I haven't used a Phanpy in years! I ended up evolving it into a Donphan later on and used it up until the Red battle where I stumbled upon a Larvitar and power-leveled it up to 51 so it could learn Earthquake (I previously taught that to Donphan in Victory Road) and then leveled it up again until it became a Tyranitar. Fun fact: Chuggaaconroy caught a Phanpy in his playthrough of Pokémon Crystal many moons ago.
My favorite pokemon to catch right away after picking my starter. I'm glad you can locate it in the early stages in crystal despite how annoying it was encountering geodudes and spearows. I'm happy you did a Speedrun with phanpy. It's an amazing pokemon
Man blows me away how much u grew over the last two years, I started watching u a little after u started and loved all ur vids,u are my fav pokemon solo run youtuber, I recorded my solo run with pokemon outlaw with Mewtwo but still working on my first rom hack playthrough tho,it is a lot of work with full-time job and family haha haha, keep up the good work bud and looking forward to our new vids
Yeah the last two years have been a roller coaster of learning. Strangely, it feels like it’s accelerating. It just takes longer for new things to be implemented now that I’m juggling 4 games.
I really like Phanpy. Pokemon Crystal was my first pokemon game so the Johto Region has a special place in my heart. Seeing Johto Pokemon get love always makes me happy. Please keep up the good work on videos and thanks for the great content.
These videos have given me the inspiration to finally work on my first actual coding project: a rom hack of pokemon crystal by modifying the decompiled code. A number of the frustrations you encounter these vids have been giving me ideas for things to try to change, most notably learnset/typing disparities. I mean, Phanpy/Donphan are pure ground-types with a fairly standard normal-type level-up and TM/HM learnset.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I'm absolutely going to remove those. Among other things, I'm also going to change the level curve to end with red at lv 100 (sadly rendering single mon challenges nearly impossible), fix some design flaws/choices, rebalance all mons to be useable, and adding the physical/special split. the hardest specific goal I have is trying to nerf Return, though I'm not fluent enough in the assembly programming language to understand what to change yet.
How could you cut away when Lance had something important to tell you? Perhaps he was about to admit he's actually a flying type trainer Edit: just as the first Jasmine fight, I wonder if a PP restoring berry would have helped
In the original Japanese version of Gold and Silver Phanpy was exclusive to gold while Teddiursa was exclusive Silver. In case people were wondering why Phanpy was in HeartGold and Teddiursa was in SoulSilver.
@@darkblue62 Maybe Gamefreak thought it would balance out the exclusives better. I believe this is the only time version exclusives were changed internationally.
I worked at a Zoo for a year doing their I.T. work. I can confirm that Elephants have hooves. They just are distributed a bit differently compared to Horses, Zeebras, etc due to their immense weight.
If Great Tusk and Iron Treads are in Gen 2 and did a race together, I think it's hard to judge with hypothetical Gen 2 movesets. Great Tusk has much higher Attack than Treads. But, its Fighting type is pretty much just there, just like Gen 1 Poliwrath unless if you give it HP Fighting, but HP Fighting has really bad DVs for a 70 Power STAB Fighting move. It might be able to KO Umbreon in the League, but HP Fighting Great Tusk is significantly weaker than Machamp's Cross Chop, even with its poor accuracy. I think Will is gonna be a huge problem for Great Tusk, since Xatu and Exeggutor do not care about Ground and Fighting moves. Same with Lance. Its Special Defense is gonna be a liability for those 2 opponents and Red's Blastoise. Iron Treads has a similar problem with Great Tusk in that it lacks a Steel STAB option in Gen 2 without committing to HP Steel. But, I think HP Rock will be the right one to use, since Treads will be in a pickle against Lance's army and Red's Charizard. Steel is a very good type defensively along with Ground for Red's Pikachu and Snorlax.
Hi Scott! Thanks for another great video! I have a suggestion: Could you maybe add the levels of the opposing trainer's Pokemon in the overlay? You've done an amazing job on that overlay in general, BTW! So much attention to detail - love it! :)
Hey Scott :) To feed the algorythm I did some calculations: Hidden Power fire would be a guaranteed 2HKO (with the same stats your Phanpy had) while HP ground would only be around 98% to 2HKO (even with Soft Sand). Phanpy is cute and I appreciate your work :) Keep it up man
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Absolutely agree on that. I just wanted to write something kinda interresting ._. Maybe this will come in handy someday, especially if the atk/sp atk stats aren't that far off each other (as a sidenote, long ago I ran an Adamant Donphan with HP Ice to 1HKO Gliscor)
You could potentially save time on gaining an even better swimmer since poliwhirl spawns at night before violet city. (And it learns all 3 swimming hms) Alternativley you could go for rocksmash in olivine city on the shore on the rocks instead (Since krabby has also a high chance spawning there) And bellsprout does also learn rocksmash if im not mistaken.
I am glad you are doing this video for phanpy and donphan are in my top 5 favorite johto Pokémon and hoping to see donphan vs ursaring video and a speed run of donphan
I love Phanpy and Donphan, they’re such good designs. Phanpy gets the same reaction out of me as my dogs, that being I can’t stop smiling when I look at it bc it’s so cute. And Donphan is just a Pokémon I’ve always thought looks really cool, and it’s good in battle too. Also as a note: Phanpy is really annoying to catch in Crystal even though it is early on because it’s one of those annoying Pokémon that can flee. And it’s not one of the 3 flee mons that the Fast Ball works on.
That run was reminding me about me as a kid trying to catch a Phanpy in route 46, because I wanted to complete the pokedex in crystal. 😁Lately I had one in a nuzlocke and it was really good, and that run has shown me, that I wasn't just lucky to have one, Phanpy is just a really good pokemon, especially with hidden power. 😄As first stage pokemon, even though its speed could have been problematic, it was doing a fantastic job in this run,and all thanks to you. Well done.👏👏👏 The second playthrough was really showing that you were studying from your past mistakes in the first one, even though Karen was causing you a somewhat usual reset, but I think that if only Phanpy could have learn dig, you could change the type of hidden power to fighting, so that Karen could been trivia, and avoiding losing because sand attack. That kind a reset can be really annoying sometimes. But overall that was well played, and I had a great time, so thanks for that. 😄
The main problem is that Hidden Power Fighting's DV drop is worse than Hidden Power Fire's DV drop. You have 3 DV in HP and 12 Atk and Def DVs for HP Fighting.
@@shadowtitanx3962 yeah that's things that you'll need to take into consideration whenever you're hidden power. 🤔And yeah that could hurt that peak performance of any pokemon with these kinds of dvs. So I could get why it wouldn't be useful as much.
Against Lance it might make sense to just lead off with Rollout. It looks like it would 2-hit, so you could avoid taking a rain-boosted Surf, and potentially avoid any damage. That would force you to restart rollout against the third Dragonite but I have to imagine that works better than taking a big surf from Gyarados.
39:35 would a possible alternative be setting up on the Kakuna? that way, you'd be at lowish health but have maximum defense and higher power for the flail for the Scyther. then again, the poison chance may make this method inconsistent.
Also, in hindsight, tou could have set up 6 defense curl against the last magnenite, not sure if 1 mudslap would have killed it but that would have potentially made steelix much more consistent
Phanpy is adorable! Donphan is cool, but I remember being so confused after seeing it in the first movie! Also, Phanpy is actually a Gold exclusive in the Japanese version, oddly enough. It went back to being a HeartGold exclusive in the remakes, but the US version of Silver made it a Silver exclusive! Weird, huh?
Ground types are one of my preferred types, an with Crystal's new placement of Phanpy, I was able to enjoy a Johto adventure with one of these adorable elephants. I imagine there will be difficulties given it's limited move-pool but I'm rooting for Phanpy to do well. 5:44 - In the remakes, Li's title has changed to Elder. Also, wouldn't Mud-Slap have been the better option here? 100% accurate, lowers accuracy and the STAB would have resulted in it being almost as strong as Tackle. Such an exciting and close fight early on. 9:55 - I was expecting that to be the solution. Your strategy was to use Flail so I doubt you'd have an Oran Berry equipped and you've yet to get Roll-out to utilise that Hard Stone. 13:17 - Very unfortunate results; I'm sure Phanpy could have tanked that Selfdestruct on it's own but a crit on top of it was harsh. 20:32 - Had to pause to see this part but you'll be happy to know it got a good laugh out of me. 28:07 - I love the fanfare feeling to obtaining Earthquake, though I hardly blame you. Looking over Phanpy's move-set, I question why it learns Sunny Day. Was it supposed to learn or be able to be taught Flame Wheel at some point? Johto's Pokémon and their moves are rather peculiar overall. 32:38 - Rather funny that minute speed difference. I know Phanpy is 13 levels higher but it is amusing to see it out-speed Charizard here. 35:17 - I feel the better play here would have been to just go with Earthquake here. The only remaining Pokémon Blue had after the Alakazam would be Arcanine and Rhydon; the former would do less to your defence increased Ground type and the latter being better dealt with by Earthquake than Rollout. Still, it worked out well in the end with your new move-set being ideal for taking Red out afterwards. Congrats to Dumbo the Phanpy for the great results!
Sunny Day feels like retroactive justification to make a past paradox Pokémon Great Tusk that interacts with the sun (being that Phanpy was technically associated with sun teams by being able to set the sun and Ground not being a bad typing for Sun teams given base form Groudon)
recently discovered that donphan i actually really hard to find for a casual team. it's in the national dex for many games but it's only available in the regional dex in like, silver, crystal, heartgold (hgss switched the regional exclusives from g/s). then it isn't even in any national dex from like, gen 6-8 and finally gets back into the regional dex in gen 9. it got a new special form.
Grass/Poison doesn't resist ground! You kept switching from earthquake to return for these mons when earthquake would been much stronger. Just had to point that out because it was bugging me lol. Great video, Scott.
I could swear I've caught Phanpy on Route 46 in Pokemon Silver before but both Bulbapedia and Serebii say it's not found there, even in the remakes... maybe I'm just remembering catching Geodude there or something.
Fun fact: If you search for and find a Phanpy before Cherrygrove City, there's a chance during the encounter it will just run away. Not sure why the programmers did this to troll Nuzlocke players in the future...
You're actually correct about Morty's AI regarding Curse. The AI for "smart" trainers has various exceptions when it comes to certain moves including recoil, self KO and other status moves. It will favor Curse at full HP, but will discourage it once damage has been taken.
If you want more info on this, I heavily recommend looking into the decompilation project for Crystal. It takes a bit of deciphering and snooping in the game files, but the AI logic is in there and fairly well annotated.
For Bugsy, you'd have to math it out in advance, but I wonder if you could have set up only 4-5 defense curls specifically so that the second fury cutter would bring you low enough to max out the damage of flail
Also something i found in my gold playthrough you know the built in chance for status moves to miss in gen 2? Mind reader doesn’t bypass this, Chuck used mind reader then hypnosis then missed so that was a nice thing to learn
Yup, that’s happened a bunch in my playthroughs. It’s also so funny to see chick setup and then miss anyways. At least it makes his dynamicpunch always hit.
Hey Scott this is a rather specific scenario but, since in pvp matches if one player uses self KO moves or Destiny Bond and both pokemon faint, the other player wins, wouldn't it be fair for you to not reset if Karen does it? If you don't have any revives it's kinda moot but still.
Interesting point. Maybe… still feels like an emotional loss though. I’ll probably keep things the same but maybe mention this if it occurs in the future.
Omg I love phanphy so much I caught a Donphan in platinum, bred it, and traded it to soulsilver so I can play with it the tiny elephant is so freakin adorable. Had to come back and add a shout out to Dennis for the exp.
Elephants have feet! Each foot has five toes, and they're actually able to "hear" through their feet. They have a special nerve that runs along through the feet and gives elephants a similar sensation to how it would feel to have your ear to the ground. It allows them to hear when other animals are nearby and may be used in long distance communication!
For its small size, Phanpy packidermed enough power in its tiny body to make it to D Tier. But the real elephant in the room is whether or not Donphan can be any better? As one of my favorite Ground types, I believe it can.
Never really used this Pokemon, always seemed like a bad Sandslash and terrible Gen 2 learnset, like did you really want to waste your earthquake TM on this thing? But looking at Donphans stats, really much better than expected, better than Sandslash in almost every way. More strangely though, its HP value stays the same upon evolution, not sure Ive seen many Pokemon like that (At least through Gen 4). I don't think HP ever worsens on evolution, minus Shedinja, it almost always increases. Anyways, thanks as always for the excellent content and keeping the nostalgia alive!
Hey Scott! Bit of a niche issue, but would it be possible to have the overlay show flail's damage dynamically? Thank you for these, I'll finish the video now ;)
You could also go for a LvL 20 Magikarp and level it up once with a rare candy. That would give you a Gyarados that can learn Strength, Waterfall, Surf, and Whirlpool. And you can find a level 20 one using the Good Rod 35% of the time in Olivine City.
Phanpy is incredibly cute, agreed! Have you considered doing a Porygon2 + Sharpen playthrough? The idea for this is silly. I've noticed that one of your favorite terms when it comes to easily beating (or being beaten) fights is to 'polish' off the trainer(or yourself). Why not literally polish yourself?
Fun fact:canonically phanpy is insanely strong but it does not know it is that strong or how to control it so they often shatter the bones of people they like because they just need to swing thier trunk to do it or send you a one way trip to heaven by bumping into you
I love phanpy and donphan, looks interesting in the gen 9 games with new forms (i need to see) never actually used one and had no idea you could get one early in crystal but i never really play in the morning time (unless I can’t sleep) but that’s cool. Also crystal is the only game that you can breed water gun onto Phanpy, totally useless but still kinda cool i think Also i just thought of damage rounding thresholds acronym as DRT or just Dr T
hello person scrolling by. hope you have a good rest of your day. also, i feel like this little goober is gonna do at least *okay*? haven’t looked at stats or movepool, but being a physical attacker will help versus Red’s Snorlax, i think - assuming you can deal with Pikachu’s Charm.
I have a theory as to why Venomoth is so many different types. Get this, i think it is the true form of Arceus Thats why it changes types even turns into a different dual type
Thank god that Phanpy can learn mud-slap from the TM Falkner gives you, otherwise you would have to grind to level 33 so that it can hit Mortys ghost pokemon with roll-out!
The TM for Rollout is just north of Goldenrod, so that would be an option instead of doing the training. Annoying, but thematic, that this little Elephant doesn't get Dig.
Don't forget the Rival's Gastly btw.
yeah you wouldn't reach morty unless you struggle the rival after bugsy for the whole fight
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Elephants will actually dig for food and water with their trunk, so I say give the elephant Dig!
I'd just like to point out that there is now a comment that praises mudslap and justly so.
Since scarlet and violet came out, donphan has grown to become my favourite pokemon. Great tusk and iron treads are also awesome, but they've really made me appreciate just how cool the base form is.
I've always liked Phanpy and Donphan but never really got the chance to use one in a playthrough. Doesn't help that in the first few gens its either late-game or gets no good STAB options until very late.
That being said its nice they've given it and its counterpart of Ursaring some attention. Funny enough Ursaring also became a Ground-type when it gained its evolution in Ursaluna. Guess it comes full circle?
Who is Iron Threads? I've only heard about the former, who is clearly awesome, my favourite paradox and basically a Mega Donphan, both in design and gameplay.
@@charizard7666 In all seriousness, Iron threads is just so forgettable compared to Great tusk, both in design and competitive (You might have seen some great tusk on action, but there were only 4 Iron threads in a 780 VGC tournament compared to 131 Great tusk)
Phanpy is such a cute and cool Pokemon design. I actually think it's really neat that Phanpy gets Water Gun through breeding when Donphan breeds with a male Quagsire. Quagsire can also give Phanpy Ancientpower and Body Slam through breeding.
Also I believe Sage Li's name in the manga translates to Elder Li which is a play on the word elderly.
I'm pretty sure that's also true in HGSS - the "Elder Li" part.
As for Water Gun Phanpy...why'd they remove that? Sure, Ice Shard is way more useful, but it's not as fun or 'logical' as Water Gun.
@@PokeMaster22222 I know Water Gun and maybe Hydro Cannon should be given to Donphan that would have been cool even though they are special moves it would just be canon with their design.
Some of the random moves Pokémon use through breeding is wild
@Tziouv they mean the name elder li is a play on the world elderly which means old people.
Funnily enough, when Phanpy evolves into Donphan his HP doesn't change *at all* - they both have 90 base HP.
I've always found that quite bizarre.
Some mons lose stats upon evolution i think floette into florges loses sp attk
Keeping hp stat is kinda cool
@@brendanhart517 The one I remember the most is Torracat into Incineroar - it loses like 30 points in Speed, for some dumb reason.
@@PokeMaster22222 Trapinch has the same Attack stat as Flygon, too.
Yeah, Octillery is another weird one for level up. Lanturn too.
Iron Treads has the same HP as Phanpy and Donphan.
Great Tusk has a good deal more HP than those 3.
I love Phany & Donphan. I really wish they were more accessible earlier in the game.
Play Crystal! It's available early :D
@Scott's Thoughts will do! Thanks Scott!
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon only problem: there is no Mareep in crystal, which pisses me off and why I don't play crystal lol
@Leah Beth iktr.. was gonna say I was just discussing Pokémon favourites and teams with my fianceé the other day and I made two points:
Mareep is part of my goat team but isn't available in crystal which is bullshit
And in gen3, MUDKIPZ. ALWAYS MUDKIPZ
That’s why you soft reset until you get Elekid from the day care
I think Karen's Gengar is destined to use Lick, it has 69 Attack after all.
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38:50 Phampy out here ejecting sus Team Rocket from Electrode electrical with its tiny amongus feet. What a good crewmate.
Thanks for the upload! Cool to see some of the Twitch stream for one side of your production cycle, then RUclips for the final part!
Early on tackle is doing just marginally more damage than mudslap (it really is only a slight difference)
But mudslap also has the accuracy lowering effect which more than makes up for the slight loss in damage in my opinion.
That being said, mudslap does have PP problems if you use it too often..
I think you should've gone into the Bugsy fight pre-damaged (maybe around 40% HP), such that you can setup on and live the Metapod/Kakuna attacks and have high-powered Flails for Scyther's first two Fury Cutters
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Phanpy is one of my favorite Gen 2 mons. Great job getting a good time out of it! Can’t wait for Donphan, Teddiursa, and Ursaring!
Lance's intro gave me omega chills man. No words, just your sick graphic and that music. Timeless.
Swapping to flail against Scyther. OP move Scotty. Nice play.
This video gives me so many good memories. My first time playing Crystal I had a Phanpy. I went to route 46 to catch a Jigglypuff, like I did in Silver, and there it was, a cute little baby elephant. The first one fled, and I didn't even know a non-legendary beast could do that at the time. So I bought more pokéballs, went back there and walked around that grass until I was able to catch one.
He is so good for early game, as you said, good HP, attack and defense, evolves at level 25, Donphan learns Earthquake considerably early. Top tier mon for a Crystal run, no doubt.
Phanpy was my first shiny Pokémon (excluding Red Gyarados). So happy to see this play through.
To be honest, while idk if you would want to do it, I personally think it’s reasonable to pause the timer while you get HM Pokémon. While I haven’t posted anything, I’ve recorded a few Gen 3 challenges and before I enter the forest I pause the timer, go back, catch every HM Pokémon needed for the rest of the game, walk back to point I was at then start the timer again.
I also pause the timer when boxing hm Pokémon for gyms, as I think cause HM Pokémon are mandatory and in every run they shouldn’t really count towards time, especially since they made a few seconds of variance depending on whether or not you actually get the one you need in random encounters. So with the Psyduck you could pause the time just to get the optimal HM poke,on for your runs without worrying about how they impact game time.
Probably not. This is way more complicated than it sounds. And for other generations it isn’t fair. I want to avoid generation specific rules if possible.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemonRuns between generations aren't really comparable, so it doesn't really matter if one has exceptions and the other doesn't. The results are going to be completely different no matter what.
One thing I think might have made the Bugsy fight easier - though also even less consistent - set up less defense curls. Scyther's fury cutter would do more damage and you might get better flail ranges earlier on in the fight. Plus, a reset would be less costly time-wise as the battles would be shorter.
So animals with hooves are called ungulates, which means that they walk on sort of a modified nail. Elephants are part of a group called sub-ungulates -- their feet are just that -- feet, and they walk on their tip-toes, so even though it's close to the modified nail, it's not actually on it. They also have a fat sac under their heels to make the impact of walking on their tip-toes less.
tl;dr, Phanpy has feet.
I always know it’s gunna be a good day when I get that notification about a new video. Thanks Scott!
I haven't used a Phanpy in years! I ended up evolving it into a Donphan later on and used it up until the Red battle where I stumbled upon a Larvitar and power-leveled it up to 51 so it could learn Earthquake (I previously taught that to Donphan in Victory Road) and then leveled it up again until it became a Tyranitar.
Fun fact: Chuggaaconroy caught a Phanpy in his playthrough of Pokémon Crystal many moons ago.
And our boy Chuggaa's reaction was nothing short of precious. "OH MY GOD I FOUND A PHAN-PYYYYY
@@MadameTeqi And then the first one fled. ;~;
Chugga: *WHAT?!*
My favorite pokemon to catch right away after picking my starter. I'm glad you can locate it in the early stages in crystal despite how annoying it was encountering geodudes and spearows. I'm happy you did a Speedrun with phanpy. It's an amazing pokemon
Been watching your stuff since the beginning, kudos on your success and your content is great! Keep up the great job, that 100k is coming up soon!
Man blows me away how much u grew over the last two years, I started watching u a little after u started and loved all ur vids,u are my fav pokemon solo run youtuber, I recorded my solo run with pokemon outlaw with Mewtwo but still working on my first rom hack playthrough tho,it is a lot of work with full-time job and family haha haha, keep up the good work bud and looking forward to our new vids
Yeah the last two years have been a roller coaster of learning. Strangely, it feels like it’s accelerating. It just takes longer for new things to be implemented now that I’m juggling 4 games.
I really like Phanpy. Pokemon Crystal was my first pokemon game so the Johto Region has a special place in my heart. Seeing Johto Pokemon get love always makes me happy. Please keep up the good work on videos and thanks for the great content.
You’re welcome! I will keep the work up!
One of the most dominating late game performances I've seen in your vids. Especially against Red!
Yup. It was very surprising!
These videos have given me the inspiration to finally work on my first actual coding project: a rom hack of pokemon crystal by modifying the decompiled code. A number of the frustrations you encounter these vids have been giving me ideas for things to try to change, most notably learnset/typing disparities. I mean, Phanpy/Donphan are pure ground-types with a fairly standard normal-type level-up and TM/HM learnset.
Please remove the type-badge-boosts. Those make the game so unfair for Pokemon of certain types (like the Ground and Dark type).
It also makes the game so much easier because the context is the Johto level curve.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon I'm absolutely going to remove those. Among other things, I'm also going to change the level curve to end with red at lv 100 (sadly rendering single mon challenges nearly impossible), fix some design flaws/choices, rebalance all mons to be useable, and adding the physical/special split. the hardest specific goal I have is trying to nerf Return, though I'm not fluent enough in the assembly programming language to understand what to change yet.
How could you cut away when Lance had something important to tell you? Perhaps he was about to admit he's actually a flying type trainer
Edit: just as the first Jasmine fight, I wonder if a PP restoring berry would have helped
Til there is a PP restoring Berry in Gen 2; the Mystery Berry. You can get one in one of the secret Ruins of Alph areas.
@@TheMoogleKing93 - You can also get one from the tree on Route 35. Albeit you need surf in order to reach it.
@@thesacredlobo ah thats probably the easier one to grab then
Good run. I've always wondered if that cute little guy was any good. Can't wait to see the evolution.
Listening while im working when you do your runs is always entertaining keep it up scott
Love our little bluey elephant💙
He’s gonna Crush the enemies ❤
*Roll on
The change to the rankings is nice. seeing it ranked in time windows makes so much sense.
Fun Fact: Phanpy can learn Water Gun via breeding in Gen 2 and can be transferred up to Gen 7 with the move via 3DS ports.
Let's hope by gen2 you mean HeartGold SoulSilver because GSC isn't even compatible with gen3
@@adventureoflinkmk2virtual console (on 3ds) gsc is compatible with bank or whatever it's called tho
@@nomis2268 derp I forgot that will soon be a thing
@@nomis2268 oh yeah and it's Pokemon Home now
Man I love this little guy definitely one of top 10 pokemon on OC rooster
Finally!!!!! I've been looking forward to this one for so long!
Phanphy is such a cutie! I'm glad it did as well as it did, considering it's a first stage. =3
I never have trouble training a phanpy or a donphan, so I think you're gonna do a good job with it. This is one I'm really looking forward to
In the original Japanese version of Gold and Silver Phanpy was exclusive to gold while Teddiursa was exclusive Silver. In case people were wondering why Phanpy was in HeartGold and Teddiursa was in SoulSilver.
That's interesting I wonder why they changed it?
@@darkblue62 Maybe Gamefreak thought it would balance out the exclusives better. I believe this is the only time version exclusives were changed internationally.
@@costby1105 makes sense
Guys, we need to talk about the elephant in the room.
Phanpy. Phanpy is cute.
I'm sorry, but imma stan my boys shaymin and pachirisu here.
18:59 that selfburn though🤏
"I've got a plan so cunnung, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel!" -Blackadder
The sage at the end of bell sprouts tower is named elder Li in Is heart gold and soul silver.
Phanpy is my first shiny in pokemon go love this. way to go scott!!!!!!!
I worked at a Zoo for a year doing their I.T. work.
I can confirm that Elephants have hooves. They just are distributed a bit differently compared to Horses, Zeebras, etc due to their immense weight.
Really love how Phanpy is one of the pokemon that has a 50% flee chance so you can't really whittle it down early game.
As someone who adores elephants, I adore Phanpy with all my heart. I just want to kiss his snout, so so SO cute.
My brain is so rotted that I thought you were going to name your family dummy thicc 1:34
Hey for your next crystal playthru have the kingdra in claires intro hydropump the Dragonair instead
If Great Tusk and Iron Treads are in Gen 2 and did a race together, I think it's hard to judge with hypothetical Gen 2 movesets.
Great Tusk has much higher Attack than Treads. But, its Fighting type is pretty much just there, just like Gen 1 Poliwrath unless if you give it HP Fighting, but HP Fighting has really bad DVs for a 70 Power STAB Fighting move. It might be able to KO Umbreon in the League, but HP Fighting Great Tusk is significantly weaker than Machamp's Cross Chop, even with its poor accuracy. I think Will is gonna be a huge problem for Great Tusk, since Xatu and Exeggutor do not care about Ground and Fighting moves. Same with Lance. Its Special Defense is gonna be a liability for those 2 opponents and Red's Blastoise.
Iron Treads has a similar problem with Great Tusk in that it lacks a Steel STAB option in Gen 2 without committing to HP Steel. But, I think HP Rock will be the right one to use, since Treads will be in a pickle against Lance's army and Red's Charizard. Steel is a very good type defensively along with Ground for Red's Pikachu and Snorlax.
I love the fact that you named the Phanpy Dumbo.
Hi Scott! Thanks for another great video! I have a suggestion: Could you maybe add the levels of the opposing trainer's Pokemon in the overlay? You've done an amazing job on that overlay in general, BTW! So much attention to detail - love it! :)
It was that way originally. I dunno if I’ll add it again, I’ve been toying around with it. Preventing clutter is very important at this stage.
Hey Scott :)
To feed the algorythm I did some calculations:
Hidden Power fire would be a guaranteed 2HKO (with the same stats your Phanpy had)
while
HP ground would only be around 98% to 2HKO (even with Soft Sand).
Phanpy is cute and I appreciate your work :)
Keep it up man
Granted hidden power Fire is so much less useful in a playthrough, especially with a Pokémon with less special attack.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Absolutely agree on that. I just wanted to write something kinda interresting ._.
Maybe this will come in handy someday, especially if the atk/sp atk stats aren't that far off each other
(as a sidenote, long ago I ran an Adamant Donphan with HP Ice to 1HKO Gliscor)
You could potentially save time on gaining an even better swimmer since poliwhirl spawns at night before violet city.
(And it learns all 3 swimming hms)
Alternativley you could go for rocksmash in olivine city on the shore on the rocks instead
(Since krabby has also a high chance spawning there)
And bellsprout does also learn rocksmash if im not mistaken.
I'd love to see more gen 2 runs
I am glad you are doing this video for phanpy and donphan are in my top 5 favorite johto Pokémon and hoping to see donphan vs ursaring video and a speed run of donphan
Ah Phanpy. I have some old Pokemon cards here, including a well preserved eCard Phanpy ^^
I love Phanpy and Donphan, they’re such good designs. Phanpy gets the same reaction out of me as my dogs, that being I can’t stop smiling when I look at it bc it’s so cute. And Donphan is just a Pokémon I’ve always thought looks really cool, and it’s good in battle too.
Also as a note: Phanpy is really annoying to catch in Crystal even though it is early on because it’s one of those annoying Pokémon that can flee. And it’s not one of the 3 flee mons that the Fast Ball works on.
That run was reminding me about me as a kid trying to catch a Phanpy in route 46, because I wanted to complete the pokedex in crystal. 😁Lately I had one in a nuzlocke and it was really good, and that run has shown me, that I wasn't just lucky to have one, Phanpy is just a really good pokemon, especially with hidden power. 😄As first stage pokemon, even though its speed could have been problematic, it was doing a fantastic job in this run,and all thanks to you. Well done.👏👏👏
The second playthrough was really showing that you were studying from your past mistakes in the first one, even though Karen was causing you a somewhat usual reset, but I think that if only Phanpy could have learn dig, you could change the type of hidden power to fighting, so that Karen could been trivia, and avoiding losing because sand attack. That kind a reset can be really annoying sometimes.
But overall that was well played, and I had a great time, so thanks for that. 😄
The main problem is that Hidden Power Fighting's DV drop is worse than Hidden Power Fire's DV drop. You have 3 DV in HP and 12 Atk and Def DVs for HP Fighting.
@@shadowtitanx3962 yeah that's things that you'll need to take into consideration whenever you're hidden power. 🤔And yeah that could hurt that peak performance of any pokemon with these kinds of dvs. So I could get why it wouldn't be useful as much.
Against Lance it might make sense to just lead off with Rollout. It looks like it would 2-hit, so you could avoid taking a rain-boosted Surf, and potentially avoid any damage. That would force you to restart rollout against the third Dragonite but I have to imagine that works better than taking a big surf from Gyarados.
That Clefairy's first Metronome cracked me up.
11/10 Has Phanpy
39:35 would a possible alternative be setting up on the Kakuna?
that way, you'd be at lowish health but have maximum defense and higher power for the flail for the Scyther.
then again, the poison chance may make this method inconsistent.
Interesting idea. I don’t think setting up on Kakuna is a good idea though. Just set up differently on metapod.
7:47 Slowpoke Skip
39:23 Slowpoke not skipped
The fact that Stantler and Phanpy came so close makes a lot of sense, after all a baby elephant and an adult reindeer both weigh around 300 pounds.
That Lance fight was crisp!
Phanpy is just such a ridiculously adorable little destroyer of worlds.
Yup!
After gen 2 pokemon went from being types of animals but cooler with some mythical elements added to full on elemental hero style humanoids.
*[happy smol elephant noises]*
Rollout strats, here we come!
Also, in hindsight, tou could have set up 6 defense curl against the last magnenite, not sure if 1 mudslap would have killed it but that would have potentially made steelix much more consistent
Phanpy is adorable! Donphan is cool, but I remember being so confused after seeing it in the first movie! Also, Phanpy is actually a Gold exclusive in the Japanese version, oddly enough. It went back to being a HeartGold exclusive in the remakes, but the US version of Silver made it a Silver exclusive! Weird, huh?
Ground types are one of my preferred types, an with Crystal's new placement of Phanpy, I was able to enjoy a Johto adventure with one of these adorable elephants. I imagine there will be difficulties given it's limited move-pool but I'm rooting for Phanpy to do well.
5:44 - In the remakes, Li's title has changed to Elder. Also, wouldn't Mud-Slap have been the better option here? 100% accurate, lowers accuracy and the STAB would have resulted in it being almost as strong as Tackle. Such an exciting and close fight early on.
9:55 - I was expecting that to be the solution. Your strategy was to use Flail so I doubt you'd have an Oran Berry equipped and you've yet to get Roll-out to utilise that Hard Stone.
13:17 - Very unfortunate results; I'm sure Phanpy could have tanked that Selfdestruct on it's own but a crit on top of it was harsh.
20:32 - Had to pause to see this part but you'll be happy to know it got a good laugh out of me.
28:07 - I love the fanfare feeling to obtaining Earthquake, though I hardly blame you. Looking over Phanpy's move-set, I question why it learns Sunny Day. Was it supposed to learn or be able to be taught Flame Wheel at some point? Johto's Pokémon and their moves are rather peculiar overall.
32:38 - Rather funny that minute speed difference. I know Phanpy is 13 levels higher but it is amusing to see it out-speed Charizard here.
35:17 - I feel the better play here would have been to just go with Earthquake here. The only remaining Pokémon Blue had after the Alakazam would be Arcanine and Rhydon; the former would do less to your defence increased Ground type and the latter being better dealt with by Earthquake than Rollout. Still, it worked out well in the end with your new move-set being ideal for taking Red out afterwards. Congrats to Dumbo the Phanpy for the great results!
Sunny Day feels like retroactive justification to make a past paradox Pokémon Great Tusk that interacts with the sun (being that Phanpy was technically associated with sun teams by being able to set the sun and Ground not being a bad typing for Sun teams given base form Groudon)
recently discovered that donphan i actually really hard to find for a casual team. it's in the national dex for many games but it's only available in the regional dex in like, silver, crystal, heartgold (hgss switched the regional exclusives from g/s). then it isn't even in any national dex from like, gen 6-8 and finally gets back into the regional dex in gen 9. it got a new special form.
No wonder I’ve never used it
actually, i just checked, it only appears in 3 regional dexes. johto, hoenn & paldea. and in hoenn it's only found in the safari zone.
Grass/Poison doesn't resist ground! You kept switching from earthquake to return for these mons when earthquake would been much stronger. Just had to point that out because it was bugging me lol. Great video, Scott.
I could swear I've caught Phanpy on Route 46 in Pokemon Silver before but both Bulbapedia and Serebii say it's not found there, even in the remakes... maybe I'm just remembering catching Geodude there or something.
Fun fact: If you search for and find a Phanpy before Cherrygrove City, there's a chance during the encounter it will just run away. Not sure why the programmers did this to troll Nuzlocke players in the future...
You're actually correct about Morty's AI regarding Curse. The AI for "smart" trainers has various exceptions when it comes to certain moves including recoil, self KO and other status moves. It will favor Curse at full HP, but will discourage it once damage has been taken.
If you want more info on this, I heavily recommend looking into the decompilation project for Crystal. It takes a bit of deciphering and snooping in the game files, but the AI logic is in there and fairly well annotated.
For Bugsy, you'd have to math it out in advance, but I wonder if you could have set up only 4-5 defense curls specifically so that the second fury cutter would bring you low enough to max out the damage of flail
Interesting idea, worth exploring!
Also something i found in my gold playthrough you know the built in chance for status moves to miss in gen 2?
Mind reader doesn’t bypass this, Chuck used mind reader then hypnosis then missed so that was a nice thing to learn
Yup, that’s happened a bunch in my playthroughs. It’s also so funny to see chick setup and then miss anyways. At least it makes his dynamicpunch always hit.
Hey Scott this is a rather specific scenario but, since in pvp matches if one player uses self KO moves or Destiny Bond and both pokemon faint, the other player wins, wouldn't it be fair for you to not reset if Karen does it? If you don't have any revives it's kinda moot but still.
Interesting point. Maybe… still feels like an emotional loss though. I’ll probably keep things the same but maybe mention this if it occurs in the future.
Omg I love phanphy so much I caught a Donphan in platinum, bred it, and traded it to soulsilver so I can play with it the tiny elephant is so freakin adorable. Had to come back and add a shout out to Dennis for the exp.
Elephants have feet! Each foot has five toes, and they're actually able to "hear" through their feet. They have a special nerve that runs along through the feet and gives elephants a similar sensation to how it would feel to have your ear to the ground. It allows them to hear when other animals are nearby and may be used in long distance communication!
That is exceptionally awesome…
For its small size, Phanpy packidermed enough power in its tiny body to make it to D Tier. But the real elephant in the room is whether or not Donphan can be any better? As one of my favorite Ground types, I believe it can.
Can't wait to see Shuckle's run when you get around to it.
Next month
Never really used this Pokemon, always seemed like a bad Sandslash and terrible Gen 2 learnset, like did you really want to waste your earthquake TM on this thing? But looking at Donphans stats, really much better than expected, better than Sandslash in almost every way. More strangely though, its HP value stays the same upon evolution, not sure Ive seen many Pokemon like that (At least through Gen 4). I don't think HP ever worsens on evolution, minus Shedinja, it almost always increases. Anyways, thanks as always for the excellent content and keeping the nostalgia alive!
I had donphan in my crystal team . Loved this Pokémon like
Hey Scott! Bit of a niche issue, but would it be possible to have the overlay show flail's damage dynamically?
Thank you for these, I'll finish the video now ;)
Yeah I already have that in Gen3. Forgot to port it over. Thanks for the reminder.
People always looked at me weird when i said Phanpy was my favorite pokemon, but thats always been my dude
Will you be adding your new Videos to your Playlist? Gotta watch em all while sleeping ^^
They should be there? I’ll do some playlist maintenance today
You could also go for a LvL 20 Magikarp and level it up once with a rare candy. That would give you a Gyarados that can learn Strength, Waterfall, Surf, and Whirlpool. And you can find a level 20 one using the Good Rod 35% of the time in Olivine City.
Losing the rare candy is very bad for the playthrough.
Phanpy is incredibly cute, agreed! Have you considered doing a Porygon2 + Sharpen playthrough? The idea for this is silly. I've noticed that one of your favorite terms when it comes to easily beating (or being beaten) fights is to 'polish' off the trainer(or yourself). Why not literally polish yourself?
Haha that’s a funny idea. I’ve got plans for Porygon2 this year!
Phanpy will always be S tier in cuteness
With the Exception of Miltank if you don't off it in 1 turn or Red's WAY over leveled pokemon its easily doable with this one.
Fun fact:canonically phanpy is insanely strong but it does not know it is that strong or how to control it so they often shatter the bones of people they like because they just need to swing thier trunk to do it or send you a one way trip to heaven by bumping into you
An automatic like for Phanpy😍
It is just that good
I love phanpy and donphan, looks interesting in the gen 9 games with new forms (i need to see) never actually used one and had no idea you could get one early in crystal but i never really play in the morning time (unless I can’t sleep) but that’s cool.
Also crystal is the only game that you can breed water gun onto Phanpy, totally useless but still kinda cool i think
Also i just thought of damage rounding thresholds acronym as DRT or just Dr T
I have just realized that i've been mispronouncing Phanpy as Phanphy for the past couple of decades.
Oops!
I think this is the case for a lot of people
Glad to see my favorite ground type getting a chance to sweep johto
I have not been able to only use 1 Pokémon for a play through but I mostly used 1 for old games.
hello person scrolling by. hope you have a good rest of your day.
also, i feel like this little goober is gonna do at least *okay*? haven’t looked at stats or movepool, but being a physical attacker will help versus Red’s Snorlax, i think - assuming you can deal with Pikachu’s Charm.
I have a theory as to why Venomoth is so many different types. Get this, i think it is the true form of Arceus
Thats why it changes types even turns into a different dual type
Your theory is sound. This is all but confirmed.