Wow. I was agreeing a lot until you started trashing the new mons, now I just wanna throw hands! Gen 2 easily has the best pokemon designs of any generation in my opinion. It just perfectly encapsulates that early 2000s "cool". Scizor, Kingdra, Tyranitar, Crobat, Typhlosion. Just cool, man.
For the record, the reason Ampharos knows Dragon Pulse and gets a Dragon Mega is because of his Japanese names. It's Denryu (デンリュウ), which means "electric current" (denryū / 電流) but the word for current/flow sounds the same as the Japanese word for dragon (ryū / 竜) so it can also be read as "electric dragon". That's also why Draco Meteor is Dragon-type. Its Japanese name, Ryūseigun (りゅうせいぐん) can either mean "flowing star shower" *or* "dragon star shower." For the record, the same reason Ampharos *does* get a Dragon Mega is the same reason Yanmega *didn't* get a Dragon Mega. The Japanese word for dragonfly (yanma / 蜻蜓) has absolutely fuckall to do with dragons.
Imagine if Ampharos, Yanma, Dunsparce, and Slowking were part Dragon Types? While the Hoot-Hoot and Spinarak lines were part Ghost Types? And if Kurstraw and Pangshi weren't scrapped? What would've changed about Gen 2?
The way to find the legendary beasts is right after they leave the tower. Each one starts in one of the 3 routes surrounding Ekruteak. You bring a fast mon with hypnosis and some ultra balls and save scum to catch. Easy.
32:53 - This is incorrect. Miltank is always female, which means it can have any attack IV. You literally cited one of the only exceptions to the rule to make your point lol.
15:25 Sneasel illustrates one issue with Game Freak impractical design philosophy; there you have a really cool pokémon, but all STAB moves use its weak attacking stat, so it's actually quite weak. Same goes for other 'mons like Kingler, Feraligatr, Gengar etc. Game Freak hadn't yet implemented the special split with attacks for whatever reason. But why not just... work around that? Just giving these 'mons a high special attack stat and only STAB moves that look physical makes perfect sense from a practical game design perspective. Alternatively, signature moves that compensate for the predictably low attacking stat with higher base power has the same effect, for example; if Kingler's signature move crabhammer was 180 bsp it would do roughly the same damage as Ursaring using return. Only Kingler and Smeargle can use crabhammer, its really not unbalanced.
I really enjoyed this video, so please don’t take this as hate, but sometimes I struggled with understanding some of your sentences as you speak a little quickly and needed to each word annunciate more, maybe something to consider for future vids. Keep up the good work
Sneasel is still a good option against Will despite the disadvantages. A Shadow Ball from high attack when Psychic types are frail defensively will still be enough to KO them and Will has no answer to damage Sneasel very hard in return. I use Sneasel quite a lot on Crystal, and it's not terrible. Not great, but its honestly not terrible. There's also nothing wrong with defensive Pokemon, people just CHOOSE not to use them, which doesn't make them bad. You can also just run elemental punches to mow through Will's Team, a Thunder punch from Typhlosion will be enough to take them out. Even Lanturn has the bulk to handle them.
In the game that sells all 3 elemental punches and has shadowball as a gym reward. I would have never thought Will would be his downfall. Also, don't sleep on Lanturn, you can run raindance and get 100% accurate STAB thunders along with boosting surf, toss on Ice beam, he will have something super effective against all of wills team except Jynx and he can have good coverage for most of the league.
You know, as someone who has looooong dropped off of Pokemon, this was really informational, but this gen is still my favorite Pokemon gen lmao. I guess a big thing is this felt like a simpler time before Pokemon tried to have crazy world-ending stakes every game (and does it badly 90% of the time outside of like Gen 5.) This gen just had a cool setting with nice music, and chill vibes. it being easy probably helped too because usually when a Pokemon fan goes into stats and party builds my eyes glaze over. The monster catching stuff isn't exactly my thing these days (P4 handles it pretty well tho.) So yeah, as a non-Pokemon fan, I like Gen 2, especially the remakes. I unfortunately never played Gen 5 myself because I respectfully bowed out after the Gen 2 remakes on good terms. I didn't really like the direction Pokemon was going with Gen 4 and in the long-term it seems like they stick to that framework. But hey, it works for a lot of people. great video dude! You put a lot of work into this :)
Gen 2 is also my favorite. I will say Gen 3 is a close second but Gen 4 is also good. I haven’t enjoyed a Pokémon game since Gen 4 (besides Legends Arceus). Gen 5 started to do the 3D stuff which oddly made me think the quality worsened
As someone that anticipated this game when it was released, you could only play it fully at the time. Meaning playing by emulation today, isn’t as fun. back in the day, you would have to trade Pokémon from blue, red and yellow. So this made it something where you would trade over that EEVEE for instance, take it to Celadon, evolve it and trade it back. Not bad video, but I think people today don’t understand how good this was at the time, making people interact and talk. “Hey do you have this? Can we trade?” And people would but send Pokémon back right away after the Pokémon was added to their Pokédex was Some people had two GBs to make the trading thing happen in order to complete the Pokédex.
@@stevenlindgren3314 I 100% agree I remember when these games were new, a kid on my block found the Lapras in union cave. Everyone was begging him to tell us how he found it. (I don’t think he knew you had to go down there on Friday, I think he just got lucky when exploring lol) He wouldn’t tell anyone where it was. But what he eventually did do is he started selling Lapras eggs for $10.😂 There was also rumors that you had to do a special button combination right after hitting a headbutt tree to get heracross to fall out. Another one I remember is that if you caught all the forms of unown, a secret chamber would open and you could catch a celebi. My point is, that when people review this generation they often forget about the community aspect these games had when they were new. …also I think most of peoples complaints of gen 2 are completely over blown, and everyone is just participating in group think.
Fantastic vid, even though im not a huge pokemon fan. Ill check out your other stuff. Side note, they say dont make fun of people who mispronounce words, because that means they read a lot- so im not being snarky, but the word "epitome" is pronounced "E-pit-oh-me" That seamless transition from the ds to Gameboy version of the music at around 10:00 shows an impressive attention to detail in editing, this channel smells like a million subs in the future. Keep up the great content my dude
How was that an impressive transition? He mentions such good music comes from a gameboy just to bring up DS version, then just fades out and pops up that version, literally anyone can do this...
The algorithm finally blessed you! I'm only here because I was looking up reviews for kirby games and found you and I'm so glad I did! I'm subscrbing. Keep up the great work
2:19 "Hot topic?! No! My secret!" *EDIT:* I just realised you even put Shadow the Hedgehog music for this part. My comment is even more fitting than I realised :o
You have many options to deal with Whitney's Miltank: - Muscle the Machop - Sand Attack - Mud Slap (which you get from Falkner) - Rocky the Onix - Geodude - Curse Gastly - Rage from the Totodile line - Hypnosis Gastly - Rollout
What if Gen 2 was a soft-reboot and only had Johto? What would've changed about the game? How well it would've been recieved? Also, what if the Legendary Beasts had normal encounters like Crystal's Suicune? And if the roaming mechanics never existed in the series?
Regarding the Muscle the Machop, I actually spoke with every NPC just because I was looking new Pokémon lore when I was a kid. I ended up finding Muscle and remembered that I never used a Machop in Gen 1, so I opted to use her and ended up keeping her on my first Gen 2 Elite Four team. XD
Great video! But I disagree that will is the hardest of the E4: not if you approach him filling the weaknesses of his mon’s secondary types. Koga poses a serious challenge with status and double team, if you’re not attentive. And Karen can be a challenge unless you have a go-to counter such as Golem (the best mon in Gen2). Lance screws you with super fast rock slide from Aerodactyl.
Corsola and wobbeffet are good as f. I trained them up to use in Pokémon Stadium 2 and they’re crazy useful. Bred corsola to know ancient power (rock move) and wobbeffet can take out any Pokémon it goes against if it starts in full health.
For magnaton... you could teach it rain dance and then spam thunder, i find it weird how you write off Magnaton for being bad when rain dance thunder exists
I agree with the gen 2 Pokémon’s stats and distribution being very lackluster. And the game is wayyyy too easy post Whitney. When the third gym leader is the toughest challenge until Red that says a lot about the game.
Ohoho imagine finding your first legendary before getting any pokeballs. My first time playing I ran into Riku early game- before encountering a poke mart 😂
Raikou and Entei don't appear in the wild until after you've made it to Ecruteak city and triggered the event in the burned tower there. So, there's no way to encounter them before having access to pokeballs. Perhaps you're misremembering, or there was some type of glitch.
Gen 2 is still my favorite Things can always seem a little lackluster when your looking back A much different experience for us at the time you really cannot recreate. Also, kinda hard for me to take someone's bashing Gen 2 seriously when the last two generations of Pokemon exist 🤮
I am surprised to find that there are that many apparent flaws within the game. I suppose I never noticed it. Even though I don’t exactly disagree with every complaint you made I still have crystal specifically in my top 3 because Gen 1 was such absolute dog shit, playing this game Felt like I was returning to something more familiar, like having coffee with an old friend after a long time. I think you’ll appreciate this game more if you play Gen 1 right before. Definitely the best way to experience GB Pokémon. I hope you review more Pokémon games, your kind of perspective is pretty rare and I’d definitely look to your videos if I wanted to determine a purchase or not. Also wondering if you’ll ever do another randomizer stream, the platinum randomizer was short albeit pretty fun.
@@robertlupa8273 I remember when it ended lol, I think it was the third or fourth stream? He encountered a trainer with legendaries on a rainy route I think and that ended the run. Fun times
I guess you did not know about the Pokémon Pikachu that was produced for the original games. It is a pedometer too, and probably what the Poké Walker was based on.
Gen 2 is bad game with bad design and worst pokedex and even HGSS not fix most of problem HGSS was almost bad as orginal beter go play polished crystal or legacy crystal beter expirence
Wow. I was agreeing a lot until you started trashing the new mons, now I just wanna throw hands! Gen 2 easily has the best pokemon designs of any generation in my opinion. It just perfectly encapsulates that early 2000s "cool". Scizor, Kingdra, Tyranitar, Crobat, Typhlosion. Just cool, man.
Its all opinion but opinions can still be wrong cause i agree with you
6:19
Did this guy just say epee-toam
He certainly did xD
Holy shit he did 😂
For the record, the reason Ampharos knows Dragon Pulse and gets a Dragon Mega is because of his Japanese names. It's Denryu (デンリュウ), which means "electric current" (denryū / 電流) but the word for current/flow sounds the same as the Japanese word for dragon (ryū / 竜) so it can also be read as "electric dragon". That's also why Draco Meteor is Dragon-type. Its Japanese name, Ryūseigun (りゅうせいぐん) can either mean "flowing star shower" *or* "dragon star shower."
For the record, the same reason Ampharos *does* get a Dragon Mega is the same reason Yanmega *didn't* get a Dragon Mega. The Japanese word for dragonfly (yanma / 蜻蜓) has absolutely fuckall to do with dragons.
Imagine if Ampharos, Yanma, Dunsparce, and Slowking were part Dragon Types? While the Hoot-Hoot and Spinarak lines were part Ghost Types? And if Kurstraw and Pangshi weren't scrapped? What would've changed about Gen 2?
@@tlst94 fortnite would have an official guitar hero clone controller
True
I still think 2nd gen is one of the best
I think this gen is my favorite gen because it felt a bit darker to me. Probably the night time, possibly the music. Great video
The way to find the legendary beasts is right after they leave the tower. Each one starts in one of the 3 routes surrounding Ekruteak. You bring a fast mon with hypnosis and some ultra balls and save scum to catch. Easy.
Do you think Silver listens to Bury the light on loop?
Undoubtedly.
32:53 - This is incorrect. Miltank is always female, which means it can have any attack IV. You literally cited one of the only exceptions to the rule to make your point lol.
Wow, I had no idea Miltank was female only lmao. This only applies to like seven Pokemon anyway.
What if Miltank and Tauros had a baby form called "Calfy"? That evolves into either one based on gender? How'd the family line have been like?
15:25 Sneasel illustrates one issue with Game Freak impractical design philosophy; there you have a really cool pokémon, but all STAB moves use its weak attacking stat, so it's actually quite weak. Same goes for other 'mons like Kingler, Feraligatr, Gengar etc. Game Freak hadn't yet implemented the special split with attacks for whatever reason. But why not just... work around that?
Just giving these 'mons a high special attack stat and only STAB moves that look physical makes perfect sense from a practical game design perspective. Alternatively, signature moves that compensate for the predictably low attacking stat with higher base power has the same effect, for example; if Kingler's signature move crabhammer was 180 bsp it would do roughly the same damage as Ursaring using return. Only Kingler and Smeargle can use crabhammer, its really not unbalanced.
I forgot how fun and pleasant to watch your videos are.
I really enjoyed this video, so please don’t take this as hate, but sometimes I struggled with understanding some of your sentences as you speak a little quickly and needed to each word annunciate more, maybe something to consider for future vids. Keep up the good work
Sneasel is still a good option against Will despite the disadvantages. A Shadow Ball from high attack when Psychic types are frail defensively will still be enough to KO them and Will has no answer to damage Sneasel very hard in return. I use Sneasel quite a lot on Crystal, and it's not terrible. Not great, but its honestly not terrible. There's also nothing wrong with defensive Pokemon, people just CHOOSE not to use them, which doesn't make them bad. You can also just run elemental punches to mow through Will's Team, a Thunder punch from Typhlosion will be enough to take them out. Even Lanturn has the bulk to handle them.
You can't catch Sneasel till after the elite 4, on Mt. Silver.
@@Jack-The-Gamer- That's only in Gold&Silver, in Crystal (the only version of Gen 2 I play) Sneasel is actually found in the Ice Path.
In the game that sells all 3 elemental punches and has shadowball as a gym reward. I would have never thought Will would be his downfall. Also, don't sleep on Lanturn, you can run raindance and get 100% accurate STAB thunders along with boosting surf, toss on Ice beam, he will have something super effective against all of wills team except Jynx and he can have good coverage for most of the league.
You know, as someone who has looooong dropped off of Pokemon, this was really informational, but this gen is still my favorite Pokemon gen lmao. I guess a big thing is this felt like a simpler time before Pokemon tried to have crazy world-ending stakes every game (and does it badly 90% of the time outside of like Gen 5.) This gen just had a cool setting with nice music, and chill vibes. it being easy probably helped too because usually when a Pokemon fan goes into stats and party builds my eyes glaze over. The monster catching stuff isn't exactly my thing these days (P4 handles it pretty well tho.)
So yeah, as a non-Pokemon fan, I like Gen 2, especially the remakes. I unfortunately never played Gen 5 myself because I respectfully bowed out after the Gen 2 remakes on good terms. I didn't really like the direction Pokemon was going with Gen 4 and in the long-term it seems like they stick to that framework. But hey, it works for a lot of people.
great video dude! You put a lot of work into this :)
Gen 2 is also my favorite. I will say Gen 3 is a close second but Gen 4 is also good. I haven’t enjoyed a Pokémon game since Gen 4 (besides Legends Arceus). Gen 5 started to do the 3D stuff which oddly made me think the quality worsened
As someone that anticipated this game when it was released, you could only play it fully at the time. Meaning playing by emulation today, isn’t as fun. back in the day, you would have to trade Pokémon from blue, red and yellow. So this made it something where you would trade over that EEVEE for instance, take it to Celadon, evolve it and trade it back.
Not bad video, but I think people today don’t understand how good this was at the time, making people interact and talk. “Hey do you have this? Can we trade?” And people would but send Pokémon back right away after the Pokémon was added to their Pokédex was
Some people had two GBs to make the trading thing happen in order to complete the Pokédex.
What if Gen 4 came out sooner in 2004 for the GBA? What would've changed about them? And how'd you have liked about them?
@@stevenlindgren3314 What would've been like if we could trade multiple mons at once? Even from PCs in the early games.
@@stevenlindgren3314 I 100% agree
I remember when these games were new, a kid on my block found the Lapras in union cave. Everyone was begging him to tell us how he found it. (I don’t think he knew you had to go down there on Friday, I think he just got lucky when exploring lol)
He wouldn’t tell anyone where it was.
But what he eventually did do is he started selling Lapras eggs for $10.😂
There was also rumors that you had to do a special button combination right after hitting a headbutt tree to get heracross to fall out.
Another one I remember is that if you caught all the forms of unown, a secret chamber would open and you could catch a celebi.
My point is, that when people review this generation they often forget about the community aspect these games had when they were new.
…also I think most of peoples complaints of gen 2 are completely over blown, and everyone is just participating in group think.
Not sure if it was intentional to bait interaction, but epitome is pronounced "eh pit oh me"
And I thought mispronouncing Pokemon names was scary lol
@@flameguy21 lmaooo I'm just a pedantic person. But good content nonetheless, you got yourself a new subscriber
I still can't believe it's _not_ pronounced "eh-pee-tome".
You know it's a complete BS video when they pronounce epitome as epitoam
Fantastic vid, even though im not a huge pokemon fan. Ill check out your other stuff.
Side note, they say dont make fun of people who mispronounce words, because that means they read a lot- so im not being snarky, but the word "epitome" is pronounced "E-pit-oh-me"
That seamless transition from the ds to Gameboy version of the music at around 10:00 shows an impressive attention to detail in editing, this channel smells like a million subs in the future.
Keep up the great content my dude
How was that an impressive transition? He mentions such good music comes from a gameboy just to bring up DS version, then just fades out and pops up that version, literally anyone can do this...
The algorithm finally blessed you! I'm only here because I was looking up reviews for kirby games and found you and I'm so glad I did! I'm subscrbing. Keep up the great work
This video is promising, keep up the good work!
"Wow, another lucky critical hit flamethrower against a Magneton."
Kanto trainers before they knew Steel types existed.
They removed Mareep in Crystal?? Why??
2:19 "Hot topic?! No! My secret!"
*EDIT:* I just realised you even put Shadow the Hedgehog music for this part. My comment is even more fitting than I realised :o
You have many options to deal with Whitney's Miltank:
- Muscle the Machop
- Sand Attack
- Mud Slap (which you get from Falkner)
- Rocky the Onix
- Geodude
- Curse Gastly
- Rage from the Totodile line
- Hypnosis Gastly
- Rollout
I used to just save scum and use Ice Punch from Croconaw until I got a Freeze
Johto is the best!
Favorite Game
Paldea
Favorite Gen
Unova
Favorite Region
JOHTO!
What if Gen 2 was a soft-reboot and only had Johto? What would've changed about the game? How well it would've been recieved?
Also, what if the Legendary Beasts had normal encounters like Crystal's Suicune? And if the roaming mechanics never existed in the series?
Mans hot the algorithm. Gratz dude.
Crystal was my 1st Johto game and I loved that I could finally play as a girl after playing Blue
Regarding the Muscle the Machop, I actually spoke with every NPC just because I was looking new Pokémon lore when I was a kid. I ended up finding Muscle and remembered that I never used a Machop in Gen 1, so I opted to use her and ended up keeping her on my first Gen 2 Elite Four team. XD
Great video!
But I disagree that will is the hardest of the E4: not if you approach him filling the weaknesses of his mon’s secondary types.
Koga poses a serious challenge with status and double team, if you’re not attentive.
And Karen can be a challenge unless you have a go-to counter such as Golem (the best mon in Gen2).
Lance screws you with super fast rock slide from Aerodactyl.
My favorite gen by a long shot. Wish the new games were as good as this =( maybe someday.
Lol I also caught Raiku in a master ball
Corsola and wobbeffet are good as f. I trained them up to use in Pokémon Stadium 2 and they’re crazy useful. Bred corsola to know ancient power (rock move) and wobbeffet can take out any Pokémon it goes against if it starts in full health.
You mentioning all those electric types and not mentioning Raikou gives me pain
For magnaton... you could teach it rain dance and then spam thunder, i find it weird how you write off Magnaton for being bad when rain dance thunder exists
@2:06 the guy understood pokemon are nothing more than 0's and 1's
Generation 2 Pokemon got more useful after Generation 2 when they fixed the move sets.
Why couldn't GameFreak do them right the first time?
I agree with the gen 2 Pokémon’s stats and distribution being very lackluster. And the game is wayyyy too easy post Whitney. When the third gym leader is the toughest challenge until Red that says a lot about the game.
Let’s go more flameguy
Ohoho imagine finding your first legendary before getting any pokeballs. My first time playing I ran into Riku early game- before encountering a poke mart 😂
Raikou and Entei don't appear in the wild until after you've made it to Ecruteak city and triggered the event in the burned tower there. So, there's no way to encounter them before having access to pokeballs. Perhaps you're misremembering, or there was some type of glitch.
This Happened to me as well I had run into entei right before going to violet city (I was on route 31).
Great Vid
Gen 2 is still my favorite
Things can always seem a little lackluster when your looking back
A much different experience for us at the time you really cannot recreate.
Also, kinda hard for me to take someone's bashing Gen 2 seriously when the last two generations of Pokemon exist 🤮
I don’t understand all the hate Crystal gets, the game still holds up
Gen 2 is one of the best out there
Which pokemon game is good then?😂😂😂😂😂😂
I am surprised to find that there are that many apparent flaws within the game. I suppose I never noticed it.
Even though I don’t exactly disagree with every complaint you made I still have crystal specifically in my top 3 because Gen 1 was such absolute dog shit, playing this game
Felt like I was returning to something more familiar, like having coffee with an old friend after a long time.
I think you’ll appreciate this game more if you play Gen 1 right before. Definitely the best way to experience GB Pokémon.
I hope you review more Pokémon games, your kind of perspective is pretty rare and I’d definitely look to your videos if I wanted to determine a purchase or not.
Also wondering if you’ll ever do another randomizer stream, the platinum randomizer was short albeit pretty fun.
Agreed on the randomizers. They were pretty fun, even if they were sooo long ago and I think I only watched them... twice, I think?
@@robertlupa8273 I remember when it ended lol, I think it was the third or fourth stream? He encountered a trainer with legendaries on a rainy route I think and that ended the run. Fun times
You sound like kip from napoleon dynamite, I like the content though.
I guess you did not know about the Pokémon Pikachu that was produced for the original games. It is a pedometer too, and probably what the Poké Walker was based on.
How the heck do you pronounce Togepi correctly then in the same breath butcher Togetic lmfaoooooooooooo
ALGO TYME BB
epitome lmao
I'm screaming at you pronouncing "epitome" like that lol
Sounds like 57 minutes of hating lol 😅
get filtered
Bro doesn’t know how to pronounce epitome
cool vid enjoy the tone of voice instead of overly happy youtubers
Butthead that u?
To... Tojetic? Epitoam? APRICOT? Proof read and fix your pronunciation.
He witerrally was wike ur all weak like widderawy
Gen 2 is bad game with bad design and worst pokedex and even HGSS not fix most of problem HGSS was almost bad as orginal beter go play polished crystal or legacy crystal beter expirence