@@laceyunderall68 You know, after sleeping on it and looking again today I can see that it looks like a prop from a sci-fi movie so it is going to people who grew up with that stuff. It is a bold choice but they are clearly trying to appeal to younger people than me.
A much kinder reaction compared to others I've seen on RUclips this afternoon. No backlit buttons according to 44T, BMW seem incapable of listening to user feedback and doing something that would actually be welcome on their new bikes.
o Jesus Dave. You're too kind. It's cyber truck ugly. Looks like somebody crashed through Halfords window on a naked and everything magnetically attached itself to the bike. This wouldn't even make my shortlist ....
Dave, think the sun is affecting your eye sight 😂. Must be the ugliest thing I have ever seen. Have a 21 version off the 1250 gsa. Will be at my dealership asap. They still have a few 1250’s available. Think this would be a great bike to ride at night, saves you the embarrassment.
Dave I’m glad you shared your thoughts on this. I watched the presentation live and was very taken aback by the very poor presentation. It was glaringly obvious that they made a mess of it. Anna I confirmed it when I watched it a second time. Anyway back to the bike. I do love the looks of it however I will not but a bike without a clutch. Let me say that again. I WILL NOT BUY A BIKE WITHOUT A CLUTCH LEVER! Not at this point in my life. They have to rectify that as other commenters have said here which I’m hoping is true the no clutch will be an option you pay more for. Anyway I love the look of the bike
Nice and sunny up in Cheshire! As I said on TMF's channel, if you fit ally panniers you won't be able to tell the front from the back. In my opinion (and that's all it is) it's pig ugly. Actually, on reflection, that's an insult to pigs!
I think the Design team got their plans mixed up in a board meeting when they sent a comedian in to cheer them up. The end result was that it now looks like the outside of the factory it was built in.
Glad to see you having some R&R Dave, enjoy the holiday 😎 The 1300 GSA: There is a retro early R80 look about it, 🧐 ( a bit techno Lego too😂)love it or hate it, many will have one at some point and sure it will be the usual class leading ride that the GS epitifies ?
Loving your holiday look Dave x Think you like this more than me! It reminds me of the Nissan Cube car hahahahahah x anyway! Hope it performs like a dream for anyone who likes the look of it x
Dave, I have photos of a Trophy with an hydraulic clutch cylinder and clutch lever. The German presentation implied all GSAs would have the automatic box. It seems there will be both available. Also the cast aluminium sections appear to have been replaced with tubular seat supports akin to those on the 1250.
Well well well! A 268KG bike is growing on you. My GSA is heavy but only up to 3 mph😂 Nice to see you relaxing in the sun, we haven’t seen it for days here in Scotland as it’s hidden by the rain clouds. Will find out when my dealership gets a test bike and let you know. Enjoy your break.
@@TSH2020 cheers Trev. Hope yer well mate. I’ve just been searching the Irish sites for 1250GSA’s and there won’t be many left after this weekend. I’d say they’ll be snapped up.
@@WheelieGoodTV 😂😂😂 GSA Maestro, has a certain ring to it 😂😂 enjoy your hols , will have to pop down to Cavan from Belfast if your having a meet up in coming months for a coffee 👍
Great To see you last weekend Dave 😘 Sadly I’m not as enthused as you on the looks of the New GSA , & Bloodyheck that’s gona be a very heavy bike once loaded 🥴
Funny how we are all different when I came back from Peterhead retired I bought a bmw s1000 rr then I got hooked on gsa adventure after nearly wipeing myself out on the s1000. But found the gsa too heavy with clunky gear change and a bit unreliable. Now I’ve a tiger 800 xca brill bike I can service it myself it’s everything the gsa wasn’t. I know my son in law won’t agree as he has the twenty grand all the toys gsa adventure.
It doesn't have a DCT (Double Clutch Transmission) it's a standard box which is operated by actuators to provide the auto function. The bike does come standard with a clutch lever, the auto box (ASA) is a cost option.
I'm sure it's a very capable machine....but it's utterly grotesque...how can this thing inspire you to cast a backwards glance at your pride and joy 😂😂.
@@shaneryan9076 yeah I’m frightened of that electronics reliability though. It’s the only reason I never went orange because otherwise I think they’re incredible bikes.
As a multiple BMW owner, I was okay with the 1300 GS. Yet, I was hoping BMW would react to its lukewarm warm reviews and make the adventure model better. In my opinion they went the wrong way. Hopefully it will grow on me but I’m afraid I will move to another brand before that happens.
I like it, and though no adventure bike is "good looking" the 1300 is no more or less offensive than the 1250 is/was. It's certainly a superior bike to the 1250 and having spent a lot of miles on the 1300GS, I speak from my own experience. I imagine many 1200/1250 owners will continue to own and enjoy them, but if they really think their bikes are good looking, I think it may be time to get professional help.
I am a current R1250GSA owner. There is absolutely no way I will consider purchasing this version of the GSA. This is one of the worst looking motorbikes that I have seen. As far as I am considered, BMW bungled the design for this model. As a BMW fan boy, it pains me to say the above.
Hi Dave, Very rugged looks, not you on holiday, the new GSA, a bit like the specials the overlanders would build. Maybe a bit 'marmite' in that department. Reminds me of the original Land Cruiser, or is it an oversized Himalayan. Rip off for the luggage system too! Cheers Arthur
Very kind of you Dave I'm sue BMW will let you take one out 😅 I'm not convinced ... Hymalayan on steroids comes to mind . Maybe it will grow on me ... maybe !
Are you sure the bike wasn't dropped or wrecked? I'm not a owner of the older GS models but if I was I'd be super happy I didn’t sell my current GS for this one. Didn’t Germany go the same way with tanks in the old days?
Funny enough I think a lot of people will start taking notice of the latest Chinese bikes as they are getting great reviews and are very good looking. The Germans could have learned a thing or two from them.
I was expecting the rregular GS to be more sporty for the mainstream public and the adventure to be following more the bulky traditional lines from before. I was so wrong xD If the regular GS looks more sleek and sporty, this one looks industrial, too much industrial (and huge, wide and heavy). I was not expected much but I still got disapointed sadly :(
Mmmm.... Boxy and not sure the rear is gonna be a looker minus a rack. Base circa 2.xk GBP more than the GS13. No lit switches. Need to see it live it needs to grow on me.
I saw the 44 teeth video just before I watched yours. Mmmmm I don’t think I like the look of it at all! However I did look at LCR’s short video and I will have to reserve judgement until I see it in the flesh. 😂
Did you see them have to ask the audience to cheer, because their initial response was silence... I'm getting tired of this I'll have to warm up to it/it'll grow on me stage with BMW. This is definitely their motorcycle divisions Chris Bangle era.
Yes I noticed that too and then the shot of the audience was them taking photos rather than cheering. One of the worst launch presentations I’ve ever seen.
Think they've employed the same designer as they have in the car division 😫 Sorry, but it looks more like a Lego model than a Lego model. Seeing some of the other release vids, I think it's overwhelmingly negative on the looks.
Harley are happy that their Pan America is no longer the ugliest large ADV bike on the market, Ducati have just sent their cash bung to the BMW designers for a job well done. It is horrible and the presentation was laughable, one of them even called it a car and the audience went quiet at the reveal, I think most probably thought it was a late Aprils fool joke. What is going on at BMW Motorrad. Have a great holiday Dave.
Kinda reminds of of the old moto guzzi stelvio 1200 with its boxy looks , not the uglyest looking yoke out there, say it.ll be a great mile munching road bike ,, Thanks for letting us know how poor the live launch was so I don’t have to watch it👍🖐️👏🫡
Sorry Dave, but I think it's the most ugly bike ever!! All I can think of is that it's just put the value up of existing 1250 GSA's! But I suppose everyone's opinion is different! A BIG thumbs down for me and I'm a GS owner / fan! 😒
You are very kind to BMW because this is the only bike in the world that makes the Harley Pan America look good.
🤣👌 Love it!
Totally agree i am so relieved as i bought my 1250gsa in 22 i am now happy when i do get rid of my gsa i wont bother with another beems hideous
Nah, it doesn’t come close to the ugliness of the Pan America.
@@laceyunderall68 You know, after sleeping on it and looking again today I can see that it looks like a prop from a sci-fi movie so it is going to people who grew up with that stuff. It is a bold choice but they are clearly trying to appeal to younger people than me.
A face that only a mother could love. Thankfully BMW made a pig's ear of this and the standard, so the value of my 1250 will stay high
Peak gs/gsa 1250 simples
Loving your weather Dave - chucking it down here!
It’s comical looking,I bet the competition breathed a sigh of relief 😂
A much kinder reaction compared to others I've seen on RUclips this afternoon. No backlit buttons according to 44T, BMW seem incapable of listening to user feedback and doing something that would actually be welcome on their new bikes.
Totally agree.👍
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Jesus Dave. You're too kind. It's cyber truck ugly. Looks like somebody crashed through Halfords window on a naked and everything magnetically attached itself to the bike. This wouldn't even make my shortlist ....
@@ciarandebhal 🤣🤣 That’s brilliant Ciaran.
Dave, think the sun is affecting your eye sight 😂. Must be the ugliest thing I have ever seen. Have a 21 version off the 1250 gsa. Will be at my dealership asap. They still have a few 1250’s available. Think this would be a great bike to ride at night, saves you the embarrassment.
@@ennisventer8038 🤣🤣👌
Thanks for the info..seems to be a very positive review ❤️👍
Dave I’m glad you shared your thoughts on this. I watched the presentation live and was very taken aback by the very poor presentation. It was glaringly obvious that they made a mess of it. Anna I confirmed it when I watched it a second time. Anyway back to the bike. I do love the looks of it however I will not but a bike without a clutch. Let me say that again. I WILL NOT BUY A BIKE WITHOUT A CLUTCH LEVER! Not at this point in my life. They have to rectify that as other commenters have said here which I’m hoping is true the no clutch will be an option you pay more for. Anyway I love the look of the bike
You share my sentiments exactly here Richard. 🙏
Nice and sunny up in Cheshire! As I said on TMF's channel, if you fit ally panniers you won't be able to tell the front from the back. In my opinion (and that's all it is) it's pig ugly. Actually, on reflection, that's an insult to pigs!
Hi Dave, it looks like a great bike but i much prefer the outgoing models! Enjoy your holiday!
I think the Design team got their plans mixed up in a board meeting when they sent a comedian in to cheer them up. The end result was that it now looks like the outside of the factory it was built in.
🤣🤣 I love reading these comments.
Greetings from the Peloponnese !
Glad to see you having some R&R Dave, enjoy the holiday 😎
The 1300 GSA:
There is a retro early R80 look about it, 🧐 ( a bit techno Lego too😂)love it or hate it, many will have one at some point and sure it will be the usual class leading ride that the GS epitifies ?
Loving your holiday look Dave x Think you like this more than me! It reminds me of the Nissan Cube car hahahahahah x anyway! Hope it performs like a dream for anyone who likes the look of it x
I definitely think it has something…..not sure what yet but something. 🤔 x
I agree with you on no clutch lever, part of the skill! She looks like she could get to Namibia all rite!
Dave, I have photos of a Trophy with an hydraulic clutch cylinder and clutch lever. The German presentation implied all GSAs would have the automatic box. It seems there will be both available. Also the cast aluminium sections appear to have been replaced with tubular seat supports akin to those on the 1250.
Well well well! A 268KG bike is growing on you. My GSA is heavy but only up to 3 mph😂 Nice to see you relaxing in the sun, we haven’t seen it for days here in Scotland as it’s hidden by the rain clouds. Will find out when my dealership gets a test bike and let you know. Enjoy your break.
@@TSH2020 cheers Trev. Hope yer well mate. I’ve just been searching the Irish sites for 1250GSA’s and there won’t be many left after this weekend. I’d say they’ll be snapped up.
Been racking my brain such that it is , it reminds me of the British Leyland era something akin to a Maestro 😮
@@paulpartridge2674 🤣🤣 Bang on Paul. My first thoughts were a Volvo.
@@WheelieGoodTV 😂😂😂 GSA Maestro, has a certain ring to it 😂😂 enjoy your hols , will have to pop down to Cavan from Belfast if your having a meet up in coming months for a coffee 👍
Great To see you last weekend Dave 😘
Sadly I’m not as enthused as you on the looks of the New GSA , & Bloodyheck that’s gona be a very heavy bike once loaded 🥴
You too mate. Not even YOU could ride this off road, although I’m sure you’d give it a shot!🤣👌
Funny how we are all different when I came back from Peterhead retired I bought a bmw s1000 rr then I got hooked on gsa adventure after nearly wipeing myself out on the s1000. But found the gsa too heavy with clunky gear change and a bit unreliable. Now I’ve a tiger 800 xca brill bike I can service it myself it’s everything the gsa wasn’t. I know my son in law won’t agree as he has the twenty grand all the toys gsa adventure.
It doesn't have a DCT (Double Clutch Transmission) it's a standard box which is operated by actuators to provide the auto function. The bike does come standard with a clutch lever, the auto box (ASA) is a cost option.
I’m hoping you are right about that
Ah ok, that would make more sense. 👌
This looks horrendous, will grow on you like a wart. I'd be touring on a Z1000SX.😊
Brutal looking! I think the standard GS looks better and that’s no beauty either. Sure it will be an incredible bike though.
I'm sure it's a very capable machine....but it's utterly grotesque...how can this thing inspire you to cast a backwards glance at your pride and joy 😂😂.
its gonna be well into the 30k range for us in Ireland
It’ll be crazy money. Out of my reach anyway.
@@WheelieGoodTV I'm holding out for the new ktm super adventure
@@shaneryan9076 yeah I’m frightened of that electronics reliability though. It’s the only reason I never went orange because otherwise I think they’re incredible bikes.
I hope the bike looks better in real life than it does in the photos! Not a light weight, 268 kg wet!
Well we won’t see many of those in Cavan.😂
You can still get a manual with clutch 👌
@@frankhumphrey6402 good news. 👌
As a multiple BMW owner, I was okay with the 1300 GS. Yet, I was hoping BMW would react to its lukewarm warm reviews and make the adventure model better. In my opinion they went the wrong way. Hopefully it will grow on me but I’m afraid I will move to another brand before that happens.
Yep, I think the world is feeling the same right now. It looks like it will be a disaster for them since most of us buy on initial looks.
I like it, and though no adventure bike is "good looking" the 1300 is no more or less offensive than the 1250 is/was. It's certainly a superior bike to the 1250 and having spent a lot of miles on the 1300GS, I speak from my own experience. I imagine many 1200/1250 owners will continue to own and enjoy them, but if they really think their bikes are good looking, I think it may be time to get professional help.
Lyn, yours is the first comment from anyone who actually says they like it. 🥳
Hope you are doing well after meeting the presentation police 😄😄😄
I would find this a hard one to like. Definitely rugged though
Its gonna cost a fortune no doubt. Am still waiting for a used 1250 but not many around in ireland so looks like not many people upgrading.
I’d say there will be even less 1250’s after this debacle.
I am a current R1250GSA owner. There is absolutely no way I will consider purchasing this version of the GSA. This is one of the worst looking motorbikes that I have seen. As far as I am considered, BMW bungled the design for this model. As a BMW fan boy, it pains me to say the above.
Im staying with my 1200gs.
@@paulcummins1770 me too!
Hi Dave, Very rugged looks, not you on holiday, the new GSA, a bit like the specials the overlanders would build. Maybe a bit 'marmite' in that department. Reminds me of the original Land Cruiser, or is it an oversized Himalayan. Rip off for the luggage system too! Cheers Arthur
Lego will be wasting no time creating an ultra realistic toy
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You need to go to specsavers! Lol
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Kinda happy it's out of my range, cuz it won't get me wanting for it's looks. 😵
Very kind of you Dave I'm sue BMW will let you take one out 😅 I'm not convinced ... Hymalayan on steroids comes to mind . Maybe it will grow on me ... maybe !
Are you sure the bike wasn't dropped or wrecked? I'm not a owner of the older GS models but if I was I'd be super happy I didn’t sell my current GS for this one. Didn’t Germany go the same way with tanks in the old days?
Sun. I've heard of it.
@@MotoTourIreland 🤣🤣👌
I don’t like the 1300 and 1300gsa
Just looks so cheap
Give me the new cfmoto 450mt any day over it, for the roads down around County Kerry 🙂
Funny enough I think a lot of people will start taking notice of the latest Chinese bikes as they are getting great reviews and are very good looking. The Germans could have learned a thing or two from them.
Is this an upgrade from your 1200, definitely. Is it a $20,000 improvement to your trips, probably not.
Agreed 👍
The photos don’t look great, but now I’ve seen the bike close up it’s a lot better.
That’s exactly what I imagine. I felt the same about the 1300gs and was pleasantly surprised in real life.
I was expecting the rregular GS to be more sporty for the mainstream public and the adventure to be following more the bulky traditional lines from before. I was so wrong xD
If the regular GS looks more sleek and sporty, this one looks industrial, too much industrial (and huge, wide and heavy). I was not expected much but I still got disapointed sadly :(
When you reach your far flung destination whatever the views are it'll be better than what you arrived on 🥺
Mmmm.... Boxy and not sure the rear is gonna be a looker minus a rack. Base circa 2.xk GBP more than the GS13. No lit switches. Need to see it live it needs to grow on me.
Feel the same mate.
I saw the 44 teeth video just before I watched yours. Mmmmm I don’t think I like the look of it at all! However I did look at LCR’s short video and I will have to reserve judgement until I see it in the flesh. 😂
I think that’s the key Murt. Maybe it’s wishful thinking but I’m hoping it’ll be better looking when I’m on it!🤣👌
@@WheelieGoodTV I have been watching more videos, and thankfully there is going to be a model with a clutch leaver!! I am beginning to like it! 😁
Looks only a mother can love 🤢
Just for balance 1250 GS or triple black , lovely ☺️
They missed it big time!
Agreed. 👍
Did you see them have to ask the audience to cheer, because their initial response was silence... I'm getting tired of this I'll have to warm up to it/it'll grow on me stage with BMW. This is definitely their motorcycle divisions Chris Bangle era.
Yes I noticed that too and then the shot of the audience was them taking photos rather than cheering. One of the worst launch presentations I’ve ever seen.
It seems bm must think us gsa owners think our bikes are ugly so looks dont matter my gsa 1150 is a stunner in my eyes
Agreed.👍
@@WheelieGoodTV i meant 1250
Wow. Glad I can't afford one. It looks terrible lol 😅😅😅
This guy may be bmws only uk customer
I defo won’t be buying one, I just like it better than the 1300gs.
@@WheelieGoodTV you would be better buying a late model 1250 absolute amazing machine
In the province of Ulster we have a name for the new bike "Mc Clatchy" .... 'son of the ugly lad', nuf said .
@@49googie 🤣👌
Was this one designed by someone who got in through DEI policy?
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Think they've employed the same designer as they have in the car division 😫
Sorry, but it looks more like a Lego model than a Lego model.
Seeing some of the other release vids, I think it's overwhelmingly negative on the looks.
I don’t think I will be spending my money on it I think I like my GSA Rally better 😢😊
@@mickdelaney2570 I think I’m in your camp too Mick.
I think the price of your bike is going to rise 😂
Very fair review, but it looks terrible. Whoever was in charge of the design team needs a strong talking too.
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BMW must have hired a Lego designer. It’s a hard pass from me. I guess, the writing was on the wall. 😢
Harley are happy that their Pan America is no longer the ugliest large ADV bike on the market, Ducati have just sent their cash bung to the BMW designers for a job well done. It is horrible and the presentation was laughable, one of them even called it a car and the audience went quiet at the reveal, I think most probably thought it was a late Aprils fool joke. What is going on at BMW Motorrad. Have a great holiday Dave.
Totally agree David. Cheers 👌
It’s a minger, I like the standard version, but sticking with my Multistrada, enjoy your holiday😎👍
PS. Terrible presentation….
Ugliest thing since the Ariel Leader!
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Yeah, the announcer chick was a fail. DEI is a company killer. I hope BMW will step away from that.
Kinda reminds of of the old moto guzzi stelvio 1200 with its boxy looks , not the uglyest looking yoke out there, say it.ll be a great mile munching road bike ,,
Thanks for letting us know how poor the live launch was so I don’t have to watch it👍🖐️👏🫡
I’m a BMW fanboy as I’m on number 5 now over 20 years but sorry this one is just fugly. I think it’s going to be a marmite bike.
One ugly bike 😂
Simply Horrendous, hideous and the biggest mistake the have made in 20 odd years.
Sorry Dave, but I think it's the most ugly bike ever!! All I can think of is that it's just put the value up of existing 1250 GSA's! But I suppose everyone's opinion is different! A BIG thumbs down for me and I'm a GS owner / fan! 😒
Massey Ferguson . Ridiculous looking bike. Switch great needs upgrading no back lit either.Fools and their money easily parted.
And I dare say those fools will be queuing up now. I won’t be in the queue.