Chigee AIO 5 Play for BMW on a BMW 1250 GSA | What's it like? | A GAME CHANGER!

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @JaySalvoUK
    @JaySalvoUK 5 месяцев назад +6

    Guys if you use MRA Navigation you can select to use Garmin or Tom Tom to calculate your routes and it works through Carplay. There has been a couple of times on my XT that it wouldn't take me down a particular road as if the road had an obstruction but with MRA you can just opt to use Tom Tom mapping. There is usually a trial period so worth a try.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад +2

      thanks for the tip buddy. We have used MRA for a few years now and is a great app, and we regularly use the tomtom and garmin layers to calculate the route, but now you have me thinking that if i set garmin as the map it will follow as if it was a garmin when using carplay. will have to experiment :)

    • @andrewscott8950
      @andrewscott8950 5 месяцев назад +2

      Nope navigation Always uses here maps

  • @davidsanders904
    @davidsanders904 3 месяца назад +1

    Great vid as usual , thanks. I've got used to using the BMW Connected app as a backup to my Nav iV, so I can definitely see the advantage in having the Chigee. You can use the Connected app as your GPS, with turn by turn on the BMW display, the mapping on your phone using Quad Lock and the choice of using Google Maps and the like on the Chigee screen. A more cost effective reason to ditch the BMW Nav iV at last.

  • @beardedbiker2647
    @beardedbiker2647 10 дней назад +1

    Given that you’ve now used both now, as for quality, integration and ease of use. The OEM connected ride nav system or this? Given that you’ve can send routes etc from you map app on your phone to the BMW system.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  8 дней назад

      Chigee all the way to be honest. So much more versatile than anything else. Although I have the garmin XT as a back up just in case I’m in an area with no cell coverage.

  • @MWS1960
    @MWS1960 5 месяцев назад +5

    Does it fit the R1200RT ? That would be awesome if it did and get rid of the NAV 6

    • @geoffdmck
      @geoffdmck 5 месяцев назад +2

      I have a 2014 1200RT and I was wondering exactly the same thing. If it does, this would be the perfect solution.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад +4

      It will fit the BMW 1200 RT if you have the sat prep and will be plug and play. I will test on Barney and see if the functionality works with the wheel. On the 2023 version RT I have the unit works flawlessly although it does not allow you to switch from TFT to NAV which is a real pain. But on the older models of RT it should work

    • @MWS1960
      @MWS1960 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@RiderCamTV cheers ..thanks so much…you guys are awesome.

    • @markholroyd5365
      @markholroyd5365 5 месяцев назад

      @@MWS1960awesome, I like that. Ride safe

  • @TheDervMan
    @TheDervMan 5 месяцев назад +6

    That's very impressive. BMW should pay Chigee to make their Nav App! Comes to something when a 3rd party can make better integrated products than the company that created the bike ☹

    • @CharlieMirakel
      @CharlieMirakel 3 месяца назад

      You don't understand the concept of a Chigee: it is not a navigator, it is only mirrorring (sort of) the apps that you installed on your phone via Android Auto or Carply.😊

    • @TheDervMan
      @TheDervMan 3 месяца назад +1

      @@CharlieMirakel I fully understand the concept of these units. That's my point, why reinvent the wheel when everyone already has a phone with Android Auto/Car Play.

  • @chrispitman1169
    @chrispitman1169 5 месяцев назад +5

    Hi guys great video I have tried to buy one but your code doesn’t seem to work 😢😢

    • @mikedignum1868
      @mikedignum1868 5 месяцев назад +2

      Confirmed, only the pre-sale discount 5% is available.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад +2

      sorry, we posted the wrong one... use RIDERCAMTVBMW for the BMW play version and RIDERCAMTV for the rest :)

  • @JohnDoe-n2m3w
    @JohnDoe-n2m3w 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great video! Already prebought mine. Really, a "game chnager".

  • @stuipooey1
    @stuipooey1 5 месяцев назад +2

    As someone who struggled reading the speedo on a late model non TFT GS, this would have been superb.
    I have tried MRA navigation and TomTom go on android auto. MRA is getting better but still lacks functionality, TomTom go is poor, therefore I am sticking with Garmin XT for tours.

    • @andrewscott8950
      @andrewscott8950 5 месяцев назад

      Nothing beats a proper sat nav for tours

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      very true, although this is a great start and im sure that in time the apps will get better

    • @andrewscott8950
      @andrewscott8950 5 месяцев назад

      @@RiderCamTVagreed I just think car play interface does not lend itself to small screens, in the car the 8 inch screen is much better

  • @RTOutdoors
    @RTOutdoors 5 месяцев назад +4

    Just a heads up that the discount code is not showing as valid. Cheers.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад +1

      sorry, we posted the wrong one... use RIDERCAMTVBMW for the BMW play version and RIDERCAMTV for the rest :)

  • @lozv9974
    @lozv9974 5 месяцев назад +3

    Love this, just ordered it 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @nicodeamous111
    @nicodeamous111 5 месяцев назад +3

    Looks like an excellent piece of kit. This is the future.
    Here.
    Now!
    Great video and reporting.
    Keep it up guys 😊

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад +1

      thanks buddy, it certainly is the way forward we think. so much better than using branded sat navs, although if Garmin made an iphone/android app it would be the icing on the cake!

  • @MrGbustamante
    @MrGbustamante 5 месяцев назад +3

    I ordered one for my 2012 k1600

  • @dmsrider
    @dmsrider 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video as always chaps. Someones mentioned MRA below, does the MRA app on your phone work with CarPlay? I normally upload gpx routes from the app on my phone to my XT which is seamless and easy to do. Having applecar play would be great but if I can't use MRA the chigee is a no go for me

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah the MyRoute-app works well with apple car play

    • @dmsrider
      @dmsrider 2 месяца назад

      @@RiderCamTV Fab thank you

  • @TwoFourCharlie007
    @TwoFourCharlie007 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks guys, just used the discount code for the bmw play, saved me some wonga!

  • @andrewfishburn5184
    @andrewfishburn5184 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Great video.. can you still have your BMW connected ride app running in the background and how do you pair with Senna SRL3 (i guess the same way as you do with the Connected ride app ?)

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      Not sure buddy. I think I saw a post on Facebook on the Chigee global account that some one was doing just that without issue but I never use the BMW connected app purely cause I don’t like it 🤣

  • @Itsnotsafeandeffective
    @Itsnotsafeandeffective 3 месяца назад +1

    A new set of blue tooth cameras for the bmw version would hopfully be the next step. The cameras being hard wired to the bike due to voltage limitations.

  • @rlw85
    @rlw85 5 месяцев назад +1

    I’m wondering if this is a better idea than the Garmin xt. I do like the speed cameras functionality in the Garmin pitty google maps doesn’t have that functionality.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      Have you tried scenic? Awesome nav app and allows you to import GPX files too

    • @rlw85
      @rlw85 5 месяцев назад

      @@RiderCamTV I had a play with the app but it wouldn’t let me do much unless I subscribe

    • @adamhowell2309
      @adamhowell2309 5 месяцев назад

      I’m trialling Sygic at the moment and that has speed camera functionality in Australia.

  • @CyberCP
    @CyberCP 4 месяца назад +1

    Hi guys, I love the show. I own the chigee aio lite w/cams and love this bmw play. In your video, how are you mounting 2 units?

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  4 месяца назад

      We mounted the play on the BMW prep mount and the lite on the cross bar on the gsa. On the rt we used the lossless mount to mount on the BMW sat prep

    • @CyberCP
      @CyberCP 4 месяца назад

      Thanks. Perhaps I wasn't clear or don't understand. In this specific video they look to be both mounted together on the same bike (GS). If the footage captured the backside of the devices, I could tell. Hope this makes more sense. I sincerely appreciate the "cycles" and again LOVE the channel!!

  • @rdlalf
    @rdlalf 5 месяцев назад

    The comfort of the AIO-5 Play for BMW plus a covenient integration of the 2 cameras and a bigger screen ... that would be my dream solution ! Is that possible ?

  • @MrGbustamante
    @MrGbustamante 5 месяцев назад +1

    So to run this in parallel with the Nav5 or Nav6 I can simply add a lossfree mount? Is that a Chigee item?
    I would like to run the Chigee in the BMW cradles of my R1200 GSA and my 2012 K1600 while running a Nav6 alongside. The Nav6 doesnt need to work with the wheel, Im happy to use touch on it. How would I go about making this work?

    • @markholroyd5365
      @markholroyd5365 5 месяцев назад +1

      I currently use both on my GSA by interchanging between them.

  • @jeffarnold9957
    @jeffarnold9957 5 месяцев назад +1

    Very interesting development. Will it fit the BMW R1250 RT 2019 ?

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      yes it will. If you have the sat prep from BMW it will just plug and play as shown.

  • @blade9297
    @blade9297 5 месяцев назад +1

    I guess when you press the "cancel" indicators to cancel the indicators it doesnt start up the Chigee feature everytime ?

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад +2

      Only when your not navigating or if you are and have the tft active it does not start Siri.

  • @Tony33x
    @Tony33x 2 дня назад +1

    Great Report …Cheers

  • @paulirving1149
    @paulirving1149 5 месяцев назад +1

    Waiting for the delivery. Right now just saying August. Fingers crossed it actually shows up. Thanks for the code and cost reduction.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      It will be worth the wait buddy. The unit is awesome

  • @thanhto3023
    @thanhto3023 4 месяца назад

    Why bother with the wheel if you can just use the touch screen? Nice kit, I’m tempted to get it.

  • @getyourmotorrunning...
    @getyourmotorrunning... 3 месяца назад

    Hello. So I have bought one of these.Really happy with it but there is no info on the battery and how to manage the battery. I leave the unit on my bike in the cradle. I don't ride every day. When I do ride and the Chigee starts up it says "low battery". Not really a problem yet because it is new but won't there be a deterioration issue with the battery if I keep doing this. There is no info/instructions on this. Should the unit be removed from the bike when not riding?

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  3 месяца назад +2

      There is no battery in there. It is probably telling you that you that your bike battery is getting low

  • @ciderdrinker68
    @ciderdrinker68 3 месяца назад

    Used the code. Thanks fellas! Does this thing have a battery? I've left on a 1A charger for most of the day but nowt work when I try to switch it on. Cheers.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  3 месяца назад

      No probs buddy. I battery in there to worry about but you need more power than that to run it from a socket. When it’s got power it will be fine

  • @markwroblewski3821
    @markwroblewski3821 5 месяцев назад +2

    can't wait to get mine and sell the connected ride cradle.............

  • @savr1200gs
    @savr1200gs 5 месяцев назад +3

    For me if it just mirrors your phone I'll use my phone and save a few hundred quid. Prefer a dedicated sat nav and my nav 6 has character 😁

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      MAV 6 certainly does have character and was and still is a great unit to be fair. As you say having a dedicated nav option is always a good option when touring,

    • @pault4513
      @pault4513 5 месяцев назад

      My iphone over heated in the sun and quit working and what about the rain the chigee is water prroof

    • @22Royston
      @22Royston 5 месяцев назад +1

      I simply don’t get it - you can get the CR phone cradle and use your phone - since this item simply mirrors that anyway. There are also rumours you lose the speed limit warning on the TFT - unless (I guess) you still have (wait for it) your phone connected to the bike……..I understand Innov have a new unit on the way -lets see if thats any better🤷🏼

  • @mickely0
    @mickely0 5 месяцев назад

    Are there import duties into the uk if I buy direct from Chigee.

  • @mikedignum1868
    @mikedignum1868 5 месяцев назад +2

    Ok, I'm curious about this... Around $499 = £389 roughly. Not a bad price considering the alternatives as you mentioned. Sorry guys your discount doesn't work.

    • @JaySalvoUK
      @JaySalvoUK 5 месяцев назад +1

      Its currently being funded by Kickstarter, and includes screen protector for £326 I think with the 15% discount.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад +1

      sorry, we posted the wrong one... use RIDERCAMTVBMW for the BMW play version and RIDERCAMTV for the rest :)

  • @RogersMotorcycleAdventures
    @RogersMotorcycleAdventures 5 месяцев назад +2

    I hate the fonts that it uses, and I don't understand why it duplicates the main info from the TFT (speed, RPM - even using a tachometer that looks almost exactly like the one on the TFT), but outside of that, it looks pretty amazing. I don't know if I can justify the extra expense for the BMW navigator, even though I want a discrete GPS, rather than using a phone app.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад +2

      not for everyone, although i think that the information that they show from the BMW bikes is replicating the information that the NAV6 had. Just shows that if a company puts their minds to it they can move the tech envelope forward and away from proprietary products i guess :)

    • @ronadler4442
      @ronadler4442 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@RiderCamTV BMW are not idiots so why don’t they just add apple car play to their connected ride navigator? I don’t get it.

    • @warnom
      @warnom 4 месяца назад

      @@ronadler4442 You are wrong! They are idiots :)

  • @grahamisherwood2773
    @grahamisherwood2773 4 месяца назад

    Hi. I am thinking of trading in my 1250GSA for a 1250 RT. I currently use Calimoto on my phone for Nav but how could I mount this unit on a RT?

  • @dannyhampshire9077
    @dannyhampshire9077 4 месяца назад +1

    Great review and honest 👍

  • @JKWheeler
    @JKWheeler 5 месяцев назад +2

    The SD card allows you to play music locally.

  • @Bramoss
    @Bramoss 4 месяца назад

    Hello, l love your channel. I have a question. When navigating with Waze or Google Maps, Chigee uses the iPhone's microphone and not that of the headset. So navigating with voice command does not work, but when navigating with Siri, the microphone of my headset is used. Does everyone have this problem?

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  4 месяца назад

      Hey. Thanks for the kind words. Not noticed this but will take a look

    • @CharlieMirakel
      @CharlieMirakel 4 месяца назад

      **WARNING** Chigee does NOT support voice control when using Android Auto and a bluetooth headset!!
      Big disadvantage that you should know before bying the Chigee!

  • @AldredsquashUk
    @AldredsquashUk 3 месяца назад

    I currently place my phone into the cradle for navigation and music, it charges at the same time, could you tell me the advantages of having this instead?

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  3 месяца назад

      Bigger screen and from our point of view. Not having your life (phone) on the handlebars

    • @CharlieMirakel
      @CharlieMirakel 3 месяца назад

      There is more:
      - waterproof
      - BMW wonder wheel works
      - 5 inch screen is still small (not much bigger then my Android Phone)
      - Google Assistent does not work while using a bluetooth headset (Chigee is working on this)
      - if you have an iPhone: go for it
      - if you have an Android Phone > check Chigee support forum about Google Assistent support before you buy one
      - you still need to use (and charge via USB) your phone and connect it wireless to the Chigee
      - when using MRA and some other apps, you need to set a route on your phone first, then put your phone away
      - if you want to change your route, you need to stop and park your bike and get your phone

    • @my_late_night_thoughts
      @my_late_night_thoughts Месяц назад

      Be aware of iPhones cameras getting damaged due to high vibration amplitude on BMW boxers. Especially the model 12 onwards

  • @duboisboris8964
    @duboisboris8964 5 месяцев назад

    What about the sound quality with a Sena Srl? Using Sena with the BMW app and the iphone craddle, i would get crapy quality.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      great sound quality with our Cardo's no cracking or breaking up at all

  • @AmbrosiasRideOuts
    @AmbrosiasRideOuts 5 месяцев назад

    Nice video, thanks for explaining the product. Not really convinced, I use my phone directly. So, nickable and very re-saleable as its blanked already?, unless it can be locked to your phone, so useless when stolen? I imagine it is attractive for those who do not have a TFT screen already. Happy travels 😎

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      very ture, although same scenario as the sat nav. Lock or no lock, if someone wants to steal it they will. Some horrible people out there! A lock function would be a great idea though

  • @kevshalley2720
    @kevshalley2720 5 месяцев назад +1

    Will it work on a 1200GS

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      Yes if you have the BMW sat prep to fit it on

  • @Mototherapy_online
    @Mototherapy_online 5 месяцев назад

    Just wondering : Waze being illegal in some countries, I guess you have to uninstall it every time you travel there, and reinstall afterwards. What navigation app do you use to avoid this ?

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      is that due to the speed camera warnings? not had an issue while on tour but using MRA or Scenic means has worked. Can you turn off those warnings in the settings on Waze?

    • @Mototherapy_online
      @Mototherapy_online 5 месяцев назад

      @@RiderCamTV Yes, the speed camera warnings are forbidden. A friend of mine got a 1200€ fine in Switzerland last year just for having Waze on his phone (even though not using it 😱) ; same in Germany (although the fines are more « human friendly 😉 »).
      Thx for the answer 👍

    • @ronadler4442
      @ronadler4442 5 месяцев назад +3

      Using Waze, is allowed in Switzerland. The Swiss made an agreement with Waze and they removed all speed cameras on Swiss territory from their database.

    • @Mototherapy_online
      @Mototherapy_online 5 месяцев назад

      @@ronadler4442 Going there in September, just saw that yesterday on the Waze community 👍

  • @ericjames7680
    @ericjames7680 5 месяцев назад

    Do you need to have a phone to get the GPS maps working? Is it using maps off your phone as you can not download any maps to this device? Does it require a phone connection to use a map offline?

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      Yes buddy. You need the phone connected as it mirrors the content to the device in CarPlay or android auto. It takes the data from your phone and doesn’t store anything on the device itself. If you are using offline maps, they will be on your phone and therefore you need to connect it to the Chigee. Unless you connect the phone to the Chigee it won’t display your apps

    • @ericjames7680
      @ericjames7680 5 месяцев назад

      @@RiderCamTV Thank You. I think I will try and find your review on the Garmin XT and its install for the BMW as I want a stand alone GPS unit and no phone needed.

  • @Itsnotsafeandeffective
    @Itsnotsafeandeffective 4 месяца назад +1

    Just ordered thanks for the code

  • @steveallen7890
    @steveallen7890 5 месяцев назад +1

    That’s mine bought with your discount code thanks 👏

  • @martin_krasevec
    @martin_krasevec 5 месяцев назад

    How is phone battery consumption doing while using Chigee?

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад +1

      it does drain the battery and with an iphone 15 pro max using it all day, it drained the battery to about 50% so not too bad, although i made sure that my phone had somewhere to charge just in case.

    • @martin_krasevec
      @martin_krasevec 5 месяцев назад

      @@RiderCamTV thanks for info, it doesn't sound very bad than!
      Just made a pledge on kickstarter for BMW Chingee :) I always have cable at the ready and USB socket on my F 750 GS.
      Looking forward to try it out since i have BMW GPS holder for the car as well :)

  • @perezog
    @perezog 3 месяца назад

    Cannot get that discount code to work at all? Too bad…

  • @olmate6935
    @olmate6935 5 месяцев назад +1

    Discount code doesn't work? :(

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      sorry, we posted the wrong one... use RIDERCAMTVBMW for the BMW play version and RIDERCAMTV for the rest :)

  • @joseantoniogarrido9617
    @joseantoniogarrido9617 4 месяца назад +1

    Gracias por el código descuento. Te debo una cerveza,cuando llegue el producto

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  4 месяца назад

      Great stuff. Enjoy :)

  • @JohnColleran-qb3gu
    @JohnColleran-qb3gu 4 месяца назад

    If this had the facility to download and use apps then I think I would use it. It seems to me that having to access apps through your phone is an unnecessary step.

  • @ronadler4442
    @ronadler4442 5 месяцев назад

    This is what I've been waiting for from BMW. It's gonna blow connectedride out of the water because of apple car play. I wonder if you cannot lock it with a code and if it can be located by Apple Find my devices app.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      that would be a great idea

  • @jgc4395
    @jgc4395 5 месяцев назад

    whats the discount code?

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      It’s in the video description

  • @markosrides
    @markosrides 5 месяцев назад +1

    Your code doesn't seem to work guys...

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      sorry, we posted the wrong one... use RIDERCAMTVBMW for the BMW play version and RIDERCAMTV for the rest :)

  • @steveallen7890
    @steveallen7890 5 месяцев назад +3

    Nowt wrong with the Carpenters😅

  • @davidmeredith2606
    @davidmeredith2606 5 месяцев назад

    Can you fix the code?

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      The new discount code is in the video description. Use RIDERCAMTVBMW at checkout at Chigee.com

  • @pault4513
    @pault4513 5 месяцев назад

    No one tells everyone with a danali can smart can bus that they both use the same commands
    So there is conflicts that interferes with each other

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      Not had any conflicts yet

  • @nevillegreg1
    @nevillegreg1 28 дней назад

    I wish these guys would clearly state the Chigee only works with cell phone Apps that are compatible with Android Auto/Car Play. They give the impression that the Chigee mirrors your cell phone apps/screen. Well, that's BS. Yes it runs Google maps ane Waze but it won't run, for example, if your cell phone is running the DMD2 App, which runs and shows GPX navigation files/routes on your cell phone, then you won't see it on the Chigee. I'm not blaming Chigee, I am blaming these YT reviewers that don't address the limitations of the device.

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  28 дней назад

      I think your missing the point that you can mirror your phone with the compatible apps as we said. But you could always look at their website too

  • @rdlalf
    @rdlalf 5 месяцев назад +1

    Discount is not working! … same as the codes from other channels! Why!!!???

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      sorry, we posted the wrong one... use RIDERCAMTVBMW for the BMW play version and RIDERCAMTV for the rest :)

  • @stevedavies-pp7dp
    @stevedavies-pp7dp 2 месяца назад

    Another satnav reliable on phone signal 🤷🏻‍♂️ yeah il bin my navigator 6 for that 😂😂😂😂

  • @TheFlaneur-up1ft
    @TheFlaneur-up1ft 5 месяцев назад

    Oh a bit late on this one! Every other influencer did this last week!!

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад

      Wanted to make sure it was good before releasing a video

  • @CharlieMirakel
    @CharlieMirakel 4 месяца назад

    **Warning** Chigee does NOT support voice control with Android Auto using a bluetooth headset yet! (Chigee says the are working on it)
    I returned my Chigee and got a full refund.

  • @2WheelsGood-sui
    @2WheelsGood-sui 4 месяца назад

    Nearly same price with bmw navigator :( so i prefer bmw..

  • @andrewscott8950
    @andrewscott8950 5 месяцев назад +1

    To small

    • @RiderCamTV
      @RiderCamTV  5 месяцев назад +1

      same size screen as the NAV6

  • @thelonewolf666
    @thelonewolf666 2 месяца назад

    its still way overpriced, it would cost about 25 bucks to make