The Galaxy's Most POPULAR Starfighter Model: Why We Barely Ever See it On-Screen

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  • @ananonymousnerd.2179
    @ananonymousnerd.2179 10 месяцев назад +18

    3:52 I didn't know the Cloakshape was so popular that it was approved for use in the Aeronautica Imperialis by the Adeptus Mechanicus and remained in use well into the 42nd millenium AD...

  • @93earthbound
    @93earthbound 10 месяцев назад +83

    "I once had a guy come in here looking to buy an 'original' CloakShape. I just laughed and told him that there's no such thing as an 'original' CloakShape."
    - Mechanic Shug Ninx

    • @drksideofthewal
      @drksideofthewal 10 месяцев назад +12

      That takes me back, I used to read the New Essential Guide to Starships before I had internet. Good times.

  • @rickyourhere9777
    @rickyourhere9777 10 месяцев назад +22

    Love learning about this ship. Love how many times its capabilities are said to, "Get the job done".

  • @FalconWindblader
    @FalconWindblader 10 месяцев назад +16

    That's one of the ships that i'd consider getting if i were to be in the SW universe. while subpar in every way when unmodified, being cheap & reliable & having a plethora of mods available for just about anything mean maintenance can be made easy, & customizations can be useful & highly personalized at the same time. as a guy who digs anything with character & personality, a ship that you can truly modify to become yours & one-of-a-kind, beats anything more advanced yet is just run-of-the-mill stuff with slight tweaks in my book.

  • @Vizsla-wy3ql
    @Vizsla-wy3ql 10 месяцев назад +30

    No wonder we didn't see these ships on screen. They were there but were cloaked the whole time.

  • @JaelaOrdo
    @JaelaOrdo 10 месяцев назад +36

    I’ve always found most of the ships that aren’t ever seen on screen or only have one or two appearances in some video games or something (Scurrg H-6 for example) to be a lot more interesting than the ones we see all the time.

    • @Noxx55
      @Noxx55 10 месяцев назад +2

      Same. I'd like to see the ships from the x-wing and TIE fighter sim games on screen at some point.

    • @ventusvindictus
      @ventusvindictus 10 месяцев назад

      ​@Noxx55 Yeah, that would be a delight.

  • @demetrinight5924
    @demetrinight5924 10 месяцев назад +6

    The Cloak Shape Fighter is one of my favorite starfighters from Legends. The hyperdrive sleds used the large R1 Astromech droids.

  • @joshk96
    @joshk96 10 месяцев назад +30

    Ah yes the Thunderbolt a true STAR WARS ship 😂

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 10 месяцев назад +9

    Diamond Boron Missiles FTW! Missiles that delete everything! I really wish we could see more of this amazing fighter in any Star Wars media nowadays, they're just so cool.

  • @BleachFan9891
    @BleachFan9891 10 месяцев назад +105

    Nothing against the Cloakshape but given the option I’d rather fly a Z-95 Headhunter

    • @d4rk5t4r2
      @d4rk5t4r2 10 месяцев назад +9

      So would I tbh

    • @Rook_Gaming_Original
      @Rook_Gaming_Original 10 месяцев назад +26

      Most people would but the beauty of the cloakshape was if we were all in the star wars universe we'd be able to afford a Cloakshape long before we could get to the z-95. Keep in mind the Z-95 was more popular and constantly sought out given it was priced so much higher and seemingly less were made.

    • @blackc1479
      @blackc1479 10 месяцев назад +5

      96 accord of the universe lol

    • @Noxx55
      @Noxx55 10 месяцев назад +9

      Fair, but I'd rather have a Cloakshap instead of the diet coke x-wing.

    • @blackc1479
      @blackc1479 10 месяцев назад +5

      @Noxx55 I never really got the adoration for the headhunter either. Yeah, OK, did its job, and wasn't a pig.

  • @elchjol2777
    @elchjol2777 10 месяцев назад +5

    For a System Defense Force on a budget,Cloakshapes modified to be a missle/torpedo boat could be a good option for an anti-gunboat/corvette/frigate craft. Give it an escort of Z-95s or what ever fighters you can find on the cheap and you have a force that has the capability to punch above its weight. If its pilots have been given adequate training that is,never cheap out on the training.

  • @Cornel101
    @Cornel101 10 месяцев назад +6

    I've seen other channels cover the cloakshape fighter, but this was one of the more in depth ones. Also enjoyed the various art of the cloakshape. Wouldn't mind seeing another analysis of an obscure starfighter, likenthe R-60 T-wing.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 10 месяцев назад +17

    Did any planet build their own Cloakshapes after production stopped?
    In Star Wars ships can be built by small scale producers - the Rebels even managed to produce the X-Wing themselves.
    It could have been a sound defence strategy as Galactic tensions hotted up after the battle of Naboo for a system to indigenously produce modified and improved Cloakshape variants straight off the production line, for themselves (and allies).
    And to take advantage of all the different modifications to produce several different types and thus still have the advantage of the unpredictability of the Cloakshapes setup by having space superiority fighter variates in both short range interceptors and long range patrol craft, "Bomber" variants to attack larger ships, missile trucks for stand off attacks and so on.
    Have different optimised builds so that enemy pilots don't know if they're in a dog fight with the tank version or the super maneuverable version.... until it's too late.
    "Oh that's a droid operated tailgunner mod...💥"
    After a few decades their Base model could be as similar to the original specifications as the F-15EX is to the original 1976 F-15.

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 10 месяцев назад +2

      Some my thoughts too. With the right variants massed together in appropriate configurations an they're all sufficient or massively upgraded enough you could REALLY send even the most advanced enemies some real threats if these cloaks come in enough numbers

    • @TY-km8hj
      @TY-km8hj 10 месяцев назад +1

      But my lord.... is that... LEGAL

    • @jamesricker3997
      @jamesricker3997 10 месяцев назад +2

      I'm quite sure someone is building new models in the outer rim

  • @gregorylieber8362
    @gregorylieber8362 10 месяцев назад +3

    I didn't know about this ship. It is pure WWII, and pure sci-fi. Good stuff.

  • @georgehilty3561
    @georgehilty3561 10 месяцев назад +3

    honestly it sounds like a great fighter for planetary and system defense. its cheap, flexible and adaptable. which is what a defense force needs, especially i they're on a budget.

  • @Finlandball39
    @Finlandball39 10 месяцев назад +5

    This would be a pretty good galactic airplane. Modify the cargo to include passengers and bam. You got a space liner. Maybe a private one though. A private plane version of this ship would be sick

  • @reginaldshort8486
    @reginaldshort8486 3 месяца назад +1

    Toscan 8-Q star fighter is a personal favorite of mine

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 10 месяцев назад +6

    Not a fan of it enough to want to fly such a craft, but I must say, the Cloakshape is one good staple for X-Wing Alliance, plus the TIE Fighter Total Conversion mod. Obsolete it may be, at least it's not as groanworthy as the Zed-95 in my eyes.

  • @douglasmcneil8413
    @douglasmcneil8413 4 месяца назад +1

    I could see the cloakshape being used as a fighter/trainer. While other Fighters would be used in more specific combat rolls. I could also see it as an export fighter. It would kind of fill the role of the T38 and the F5. Or maybe similar the T37 trainer and the A37 Dragonfly. Depending on configuration.

  • @drewgilbertson
    @drewgilbertson 10 месяцев назад +1

    What he doesn't mention is how widely copied the cloakshape was. Because it was so common, widespread and easy to maintain, a lot of outer rim "ship yards" coppied the design and churned these out by the hundreds. The fact that almost all cloakshapes were heavily modified made it difficult to tell if one was a Kuat original. And it really was the perfect outer rim fighter. This thing is the AK-47 of star fighters, cheap, rugged, reliable, with plenty of Chinese knockoffs. One guy with a toolbox could practically rebuild one of these if he had enough time and second hand parts.

  • @CaptainBill22
    @CaptainBill22 10 месяцев назад +4

    3:50 The Emperor Protects!

  • @BarnabyCodswallow
    @BarnabyCodswallow 10 месяцев назад +4

    0:48 ... the f? Is that a ploy for engagement? Mistake? Actually intended?

  • @ZontarDow
    @ZontarDow 10 месяцев назад

    "For your ribbed pleasure"
    God that caught me off guard

  • @cerealsgames3118
    @cerealsgames3118 10 месяцев назад +5

    NO WAY THE CLOAKED RIBBED PLEASURE 😂

  • @AdamTehranchiYT
    @AdamTehranchiYT 10 месяцев назад +1

    NGL kinda love how cloakshapes are practically open source in the SW Galaxy

  • @krzosu
    @krzosu 9 месяцев назад +1

    5:50 gotta love the one made in Space Engineers :D

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 10 месяцев назад +2

    I get the feeling had their been a TV series well before the Clone Wars series the Cloak Shape's might get a more prominent role.

  • @FluffyEnbyneering
    @FluffyEnbyneering 10 месяцев назад +1

    The cloakshape is a pretty cool ship. It would also be interesting seeing a video on the “flying brick aka YV-929.

    • @FluffyEnbyneering
      @FluffyEnbyneering 10 месяцев назад +1

      Vertical ships, if they exist, would be fun too.

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman2185 10 месяцев назад

    The 1978 VW beetle was licensed to be produced in a Puebla Mexico factory until 2003. It seems like something similar could happen in a galaxy so large and with such an important starfighter.

  • @nickvinsable3798
    @nickvinsable3798 10 месяцев назад +3

    🤔 . . . How do they compare to the MandalMotors M3-A "Scyk" Interceptor? Just a side-by-side comparison, alongside the Z-95 Headhunter…

  • @mattwilson8298
    @mattwilson8298 10 месяцев назад +1

    I hate being pedantic, but it's just part of who I am. 2:00 C'mon. Who in the history of Star Wars has ever said yah-VIN?

  • @bigj1905
    @bigj1905 10 месяцев назад +1

    What are some common/notable Corellian Fighters? I feel like despite being such a massive industrial world and a major shipyard, they never really tapped into the fighter market, despite modularity being Corellia’s specialty.

  • @majesticmsfc
    @majesticmsfc 10 месяцев назад +1

    Would enjoy seeing more videos like this maybe the R41 Starchaser I think it's called.

  • @LordInquisitor701
    @LordInquisitor701 10 месяцев назад +7

    Wow it’s so popular evening the imperial of man is using it 3:45

  • @squirrellordsgaming2772
    @squirrellordsgaming2772 10 месяцев назад +2

    I like it. It has character to it. And it would make one deadly sleeper ship if somebody poured enough money into it to modernize it.😊

  • @FattyMcFox
    @FattyMcFox 2 месяца назад

    Since Starwars is a tinkerer's paradise, anything that is modular and customizable will sell well, and anything that can do everything decently will sell well to planetary security or paramilitary groups who took on a variety of jobs. Versatile craft for operators. I would have loved to see these on screen.

  • @alejandroelluxray5298
    @alejandroelluxray5298 10 месяцев назад +6

    Now we need to answer the question:
    Which one was the most numerous starfighter ever produced: the Cloakshape or the TIE fighter?

  • @IdleLancer
    @IdleLancer 10 месяцев назад +1

    A vehicle I would like to see covered? I couldn't find anything on Nomad City's Mole Miners on youtube (I haven't looked very hard admittedly). I would love to see your breakdown on them. Was in the Heir To The Empire trilogy.

  • @PaperiLiidokki
    @PaperiLiidokki 10 месяцев назад +3

    3_03 am i the only one who thinks this ship has an remarkable similarity with imperial guard valkyrie or thunferbolt from warhammer franchise?

    • @ananonymousnerd.2179
      @ananonymousnerd.2179 10 месяцев назад

      Enough so that some pictures of Imperial fighters actually wound up in the video, yes!

    • @kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901
      @kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901 10 месяцев назад

      THE MECHANICUS HAVE SENT AN ENTIRE MANIPOL OF SKITARI AND A TITAN LEGIO TO RECLAIM THE STC's THAT WERE CLEARLY STOLEN DURING "OLD NIGHT", AND THE MINISTORUM HAS ALREADY DISPATCHED AN INQUISITOR TO SUSS OUT THIS HERESY.....SEEMS LIKE FILTHY XENOS TRICKERY TO ME!!!
      THE AMOUNT OF OILS AND INCENSE NEEDED TO PURGE THIS BLASPHEMY AND PURIFY ITS MACHINE SPIRIT ARE
      "ASTRONOMICON-AL"😅😅😅

  • @steampunker7
    @steampunker7 10 месяцев назад

    Always had a soft spot for this ship. The Z-95 might get all the press as the budget precursor to the X-wing. But the Cloakshape was the workhorse that could fill a variety of roles depending on their loadout and build. Not quite up to modern standards but can still muscle its way through a scrap if needed.

  • @JustinKase1969
    @JustinKase1969 10 месяцев назад

    4:00 The Emperor that protects those fighters isn't the same Emperor from the Star Wars universe ;)

  • @goannaj3243
    @goannaj3243 10 месяцев назад

    Loved the old X-wing vs Tie-fighter game and the others in that era where I saw this craft.

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman2185 10 месяцев назад

    It’d be neat to see this starfighter in live action or in an animated series.

  • @Finlandball39
    @Finlandball39 10 месяцев назад +1

    Me personally, if I lived in the Star Wars galaxy, I would want to have this as my personal ship. Modify the interior to include a bathroom, bedroom, kitchen, etc. Give it shields as well and you’ve got a perfect bounty hunter ship. Plus, I’m sure I could get it a hyperdrive. I’m a pretty creative person. I feel if I had access to the resources, I could invent a hyperdrive for the cloakshade

    • @DraconixMahvri
      @DraconixMahvri 10 месяцев назад +1

      Or just hack on an Eta-2 or Delta-7 hyperdrive ring built into the superstructure.

    • @FalconWindblader
      @FalconWindblader 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@DraconixMahvri Eta-2s & Delta-7s are ill-suited as personal live-in ships. while they're definitely more advanced, they ain't nearly as ubiquitous, meaning maintenance could be a pain in the ass in various ways, & they're just too damn small for carrying anything more than the pilot & an astromech droid.

    • @DraconixMahvri
      @DraconixMahvri 10 месяцев назад

      @@FalconWindblader You seem to have misinterpreted the idea. I mean take one of their hyperdrive rings, and literally build it into the Cloakshape.

    • @FalconWindblader
      @FalconWindblader 10 месяцев назад

      @@DraconixMahvri Unless you're aiming for top of the line performance, that would have been dumb. It's far more difficult & troublesome to mesh incompatible parts together than to just use something built for the Cloakshape in the first place after all.

  • @reginaldshort8486
    @reginaldshort8486 9 месяцев назад

    I would’ve added two power generators on my CS. 1 from a Tie and another from a Y-Wing. I would’ve removed the armor from the wings and added solar panels while using a Y-Wings engine nacelles. 1 would power the engines, shields and a class 1 hyperdrive while the other powered the weapons, life support and other systems.

  • @underworldguardian704
    @underworldguardian704 10 месяцев назад +5

    I’ve always wondered who would win in a dogfight:
    An F-35 (most advanced fighter jet on earth) or a Star Wars star-fighter?

    • @cal593
      @cal593 10 месяцев назад +2

      The star fighter. It might be able to outspeed the f35s missiles. If it can't, probably the f35. I believe they can detect and target enemies while they're still out of visual range. I don't think most star fighters are shown to be able to do that, though star fighters are definitely more maneuverable and have more powerful weaponry.

    • @marcelxd1633
      @marcelxd1633 Месяц назад

      F-35 by fare

  • @fetusdeletus9266
    @fetusdeletus9266 10 месяцев назад

    Honestly? I would rock one any day of the week like yeah it’s not an A-Wing or a Y-Wing or any other flashy thing but it’s simple, it’s reliable and it’s endlessly adaptable.

  • @jedidiahmck
    @jedidiahmck 8 месяцев назад

    Daily amazement at the plethora of knowledge Geetsly’s has about our beloved Star Wars galaxies. I mean. Awesome 😎

  • @Neoth40k
    @Neoth40k 10 месяцев назад +1

    03:51 Hmmm, this modification seems too Imperial to me

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 10 месяцев назад

    Were there any snubfighters built specifically for smaller species to take advantage of reduced cockpit size requirements?
    If you can see eye to eye with a Jawa or Ewok, then a full human sized cockpit is just wasted space and mass that could be used for ships systems or omitted to improve performance.
    Conversly, no matter how formidable a Wookie is in ground combat, there's never going to be a Wookie fighter ace.
    As one outlaw mechanic said about their Z-95's, _"Sure, we can just juryrig a cupola on top, and that anthropomorphic dustmop can fly it with his knees."_ - Han Solo at Stars End.
    So if you're similar to Yodas species, a bespoke fighter makes sense. It also has the advantage that very few species can steal it for personal use.

  • @loganw1232
    @loganw1232 10 месяцев назад

    The Cloakshape is a great cost effective fighter.

  • @LairdErnst
    @LairdErnst 10 месяцев назад

    Shame to hear the Cloak Shaped fighters fell out of use. They do seem like a model that could continue to come in and out of popularity as long as parts were still available and a demand for replacements is there for smaller defense forces. Might have been a better option for the Mandalorian since its design is pre-empire and its modifiable for long ranged, hyper drive travel with a number of weapons and power mods.

  • @mandrac2
    @mandrac2 10 месяцев назад +2

    3:59 uuhh that's not a starwars ship.

  • @gabrielgaitan4856
    @gabrielgaitan4856 10 месяцев назад

    My favorite starfighter would be the Delta-7B Aethersprite-class light interceptor

  • @JettScott
    @JettScott 10 месяцев назад

    Do the Skipspray Blast Boat next. Or the Imperial Gunship.

  • @ObiClon
    @ObiClon 10 месяцев назад

    The cloakshape is as modifiable as any Corellian YT freighter and just as old as the famed Headhunter.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 10 месяцев назад

    If you want something even more mudane than a headhunter or a y-wing

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 10 месяцев назад

    This ship sounds like it CAN be very useful when helmed an utilized by those that know what they're doing. Upgrades, are simply an just that, if I buy any random fighter of one's choice an UPGRADE the he'll outta it I've NOT changed it just at best MAXED what it's capable of an made something truly, potentially, a force to be reckoned with if a exceptional pilot is flying. These sound like a great pairing to things like Z-95s an perhaps even things like X-Wings or it's Arc-170 predecessors since apparently they CAN keep up with such well known an devastating craft in they own right an can be just as well or even BETTER armed an armored enough that even the most advanced counter parts could be in serious trouble vs some Cloakships designed an armed with specific roles in mind. Especially as a support or attacker. I'd tried to keep some of these for special roles if was certain specific factions.

  • @LL-yt7xv
    @LL-yt7xv 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love this ❤

  • @wxrmy.r6237
    @wxrmy.r6237 10 месяцев назад

    The crown vic of star wars

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 10 месяцев назад

    A universal starfighter.

  • @esotericaetobscura9788
    @esotericaetobscura9788 10 месяцев назад

    Could you do a video on the Phoenix Hawk Light Pinnace? It was originally a patrol craft.

  • @princeofpokemon2934
    @princeofpokemon2934 10 месяцев назад

    The rebels could have made a lot more use out of this Starfighter since they were that cheap. I mean, the X-Wing is okay, but this would also make the cut

  • @TylerHellums
    @TylerHellums 10 месяцев назад

    Two weeks of food and still no bathroom...

  • @leohale6449
    @leohale6449 9 месяцев назад

    Would love to see a bit on the Oculous?

  • @loganwhitney8471
    @loganwhitney8471 10 месяцев назад

    @Geetsly's Can you do a video about the Skipray gunboat/bomber? It's one of my favorites of bombers in star wars (if anyone asks, the Y-wing is my number one)

  • @strategistj.baguilat9996
    @strategistj.baguilat9996 10 месяцев назад

    So the Cloakshape starfighter is a space capable Star Wars version of the Warhammer 40k Valkyrie?

  • @austinstrauser5175
    @austinstrauser5175 10 месяцев назад

    Reminds me of the A-10 warthog brrrt

    • @mill2712
      @mill2712 10 месяцев назад +1

      Then you should hear about the K-Wing.

  • @Dctstampede88
    @Dctstampede88 10 месяцев назад

    That was definitely a 40k fighter you snuck in there. 😅

  • @Kahless_the_Unforgettable
    @Kahless_the_Unforgettable 10 месяцев назад

    Such a goofy looking bird.

  • @daniellafferety4025
    @daniellafferety4025 2 месяца назад

    A forcer sheilded, heavily armored, R12D30 star navigation droid with 89 jump coordinates ploted, and 8 languages voder programes droid is 9th language. And a super L.E.D screen, blue milk dispenser, and locked storage for possions. .if the droid had 8 weapons to change out. Like proton grenade launcher, twin 180 degre dual lasers. Or medical and engering R2 tools
    Etc. Then put this as the piolt, engering bot, of a hyperdrive ring. The ring hasvtabata gas, and a small fution reactor, and cloking device. Thuse inter stealer secret cargo, wepon delivery cargo pods could be delivered without living creatures being needed.

  • @slicerneons3300
    @slicerneons3300 10 месяцев назад

    Give me a StarViper, Buzz Droid deployer optional.

  • @dmar4142
    @dmar4142 9 месяцев назад

    Cutlass 9 patrol class

  • @macwade2755
    @macwade2755 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is Canon for me!

  • @AhsokaFanboy1138
    @AhsokaFanboy1138 4 месяца назад +1

    So, we never see it in the films because it's obsolete by the time of the first film.

  • @kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901
    @kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901 10 месяцев назад

    ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THAT THE "KUAT SYSTEMS" LOGO IS THE
    "TRIFORCE OF POWER" FROM LEGEND OF ZELDA???😅😅😅😅

  • @demian_csomic_winters9484
    @demian_csomic_winters9484 10 месяцев назад

    Is there any ship or other tech of star wars just as customizable?

    • @DraconixMahvri
      @DraconixMahvri 10 месяцев назад +2

      Literally the entire Corellian-engineered history.

  • @szczypior2714
    @szczypior2714 10 месяцев назад

    Not to hate on you guys as I really like your videos, but while I enjoyed today's topic there were a lot of word repetitions in this one, especially in the beginning, it took away from my investment honestly
    It's a good-willed criticism though, as, like I said, I really like your videos so keep up the good work and have a nice day

  • @IBW_3000
    @IBW_3000 10 месяцев назад

    Oh wow it’s mid.
    ~becomes the most customisable ship of all~
    Oh shit it’s mid!

  • @LMG1792
    @LMG1792 10 месяцев назад

    Not bad but I'd prefer an ARC 170

  • @micahottaway8455
    @micahottaway8455 10 месяцев назад +1

    R41 Starchaser seems to be another delve into mediocrity...

  • @canis2020
    @canis2020 10 месяцев назад

    Whats the most common ship?

  • @OllamhDrab
    @OllamhDrab 10 месяцев назад

    Done the Starchaser yet? :)

  • @elitemook4234
    @elitemook4234 10 месяцев назад

    I still find it odd how slow star wars ships are in atmo.

  • @rynkie
    @rynkie 10 месяцев назад

    where did the normal voice go

  • @jamiewalsh3349
    @jamiewalsh3349 10 месяцев назад

    I thought the Z-95 was the most popular straighter in the galaxy?

  • @lonewulf8004
    @lonewulf8004 10 месяцев назад

    You were doing fine till you dropped an image of a Warhammer 40k imperial thunderbolt halfway through

  • @DarthVages
    @DarthVages 10 месяцев назад

    👍

  • @fishjesusch
    @fishjesusch 10 месяцев назад

    For my what??????

  • @worldwanderer91
    @worldwanderer91 10 месяцев назад

    3rd place

  • @rayswiatek5948
    @rayswiatek5948 10 месяцев назад

    It wasn't on screen because it wasn't created for any of the movies .

  • @ImmaSpam__________________Can
    @ImmaSpam__________________Can 10 месяцев назад +2

    I do not respect the use of AI generated "art" especially when it appears in the first minute of the video. I understand wanting images to show specific scenes (example a wing of ARC-170 flying along aside ETA actis interceptors) but AI as it currently is, is a blight on humanity.
    Lets see if i agree with my own sentiment when i sober up.