The 8 Most Feared Commanders in the Separatist Droid Army
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2024
- We take a look at some of the most skilled Commanders in the Separatist Alliance.
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It's pretty sad Grievous's tragic backstory was completely erased in the TCW show. The first origin of the Jedi killer was simply devastating and a pretty great foreshadowing of Anakin's dark destiny with the Sith
Did they really erase it? It kinda just seemed like they omitted/glossed over it
They didn't erase anything. They just didn't speak about it, because why would they? TCW was about the characters that were important in Anakin's life and Anakin himself too.
Please, feel free to point me to the specific episodes of TCW that completely erase his backstory.
Or are we just here to make bold claims in a comment section?
For those wondering, _TCW_ and its supplementary sources retconned Grievous' backstory into a guy who was jealous of the Jedi's capabilities and upgraded himself into a cyborg to mimic their abilities.
@@Daniel_Huffman Omission is not a retcon. Grievous’ origin story is still very much canon. And even if it weren’t, it could still fit neatly within the canon.
A Series On Separatist Politics Would Go Insanely Hard
As true as that is just so your aware, ive been asking for more tactics and structures like the cis navy structure
For 340 days today...
A story like that would be bound to show the Separatist Idealists like Mina Bonteri being kept in the dark and having much faith in Count Dooku. The members of the Separatist Council would no doubt use their control over the military to try and better themselves and their corporations. A serious question would be how long it would take until the combined hatred of the Republic and its corruption isn’t enough to keep the Separatists united. Even the non-corporate members are divided between democracies, autocracies, and other types of government no doubt. Some support slavery, others oppose it, some are racist, some aren’t. Granted, a faction as large as the Republic must have similar political divisions within it, but it was able to keep itself united behind Palpatine and maintaining order, for better in the short term and for worse in the long term.
Filoni hates the seperatists because there are no jedi in them.
So it is unlikely that we will ever see something like that.
@@RealCodreXFiloni is a crybaby then
The fact Anakin killed Durge can actually get pretty funny considering the Bounty Hunter was basically a teenager when he died. The Chosen One really knew how to deal with kids, isn't it?
Yet you consider the clones children
Despite being a monster, Durge actually had a understandable reason to do such awful things. During the New Sith Wars, Durge's Master and only friend, Jaing, was killed by the mandalorians, causing the Bounty Hunter a deep hatred for that race, until the point of killing one of the Mandalores and joining the Separatists just to kill as many Jango Fett's clones as possible
Just imagine teaming up with Durge and General Grievous? They would make a terrifying power couple within the CIS
didn't they have an intense and hatefull rivalry?
In legends grevious ambushed durge and ventless at the same time,and beat them both
Fun fact for anyone who didn't know. In the original clone, wars show it is mace windu, who causes grievous's iconic cough by crushing his core with the force,permanently damaging the cyborgs organs. 1 could assume this isn't the only reason or explanation for his condition by the end of the clone wars, but I like to reference this whenever the topic comes up
I love that Tamson’s death was a homage to Jaws. It’s just missing that “Smile you sunnuva b-“ BOOM!
8:38
For those who wonder, this Jedi (Etain Tur-Mukan) and Mandalorian Commando (Darman Skirata), would fall in love and have a force-sensitive child, Venku Skirata, who years later would become a training companion of Jaina Solo
The Battle of Jabiim was without a doubt one of the most depressing Sar Wars stories. It gave us an amazing tale with a great anti-war message. In fact, the planet would still suffer the consequences of the war during the OT era, to the point the inhabitants literaly try to kill Luke because he is a Skywalker
They had the balls to "kill off" Obi-Wan! That series seriously went ham. I miss Alpha but I'm glad he could inspire Rex's character a bit.
Did they ever explain to him why they wanted to kill? Just imagine they told him what his father did during the Clones Wars must be shocking to Luke, right?
@@lerneanlionI doubt Luke could be shocked by his fathers past as a Jedi when he was literally DARTH FUCKING VADER. Besides, Anakin was heroled a hero across multiple planets. Jabim is like the only planet where the Republics‘ involvement had a negative impact afterwards.
@Dudewithguns-ww7wc to be fair, if not for papls propaganda , anakin would be viewed as the general grievous of the republic and definitely would be seen in a negative light
There are a couple more feared Separatist leaders I’d like to mention:
Sev’rance Tann: She was the original Supreme Commander of the Separatist Droid Armies before Grievous who was responsible for a number of early Separatist victories like the Battle of Sarapin.
Alpha-02 “Spar:” He was Mandalore of the Mandalorian Protectors who destroyed many Republic armies in Mandalorian Space before he was defeated at Norval II.
Tann is an often overlooked commander simply because she, as far as I know, only appeared in Galactic Battlegrounds. That doesn't diminish her importance though. On that note. I wouldn't mind seeing a redesigned Decimator tank, the one in game was weird looking.
And technically Durge wasn't a leader....more like bodyguard, thug. Mercenary....except for the ridiculous lance bs....and Alto Status wasn't a Separatist Commander....He was commander of Jabiims rebels who wanted to join the separatists in exchange for mining rights....He only commanded the small force of Assassin Droids at the end....his forces were mostly Jabiim rebels....Seems he is ignoring a lot of actual Commanders in favor of his favorite characters....what about the Mon Calamari Merkai or whatever...at the battle of Kamino? Or Nute Gunray ? I get that your going for most feared commanders....but since you add people that weren't commanders you might as well add those no one fears....and to be fair...the other vid he did on separatists commanders who lost it all on one battle....the main reason those battles were lost was bc ole Palps wanted them to be.....either to take out commanders he feared or he thought incompetent.....when you realize Palps was playing both ends to the middle, then you understand some never had a chance , no matter how feared, undefeated or powerful....the one person Palps couldn't Out think was sent to conquer the Unknown regions with just one ship....and he did. Thrawn.😮
Ventress and Greivous were great at showing how the Sith were in control of the CIS.
Alto Stratus was a great military commander and unlike a lot of officers, he led his men in combat from the front lines. Hell, he fought with a regular sword and not a vibroblade or a stolen lightsaber.
Durge wasn’t trained by Mandalorians. He HATED Mandalorians. They actually set him on fire and buried him for 60 years until he escaped. That’s why he hated clones. They were ‘offspring’ or ‘spawns’ of a Mandalorian.
Wasn’t he trained by a Mandalorian though? Not a group but just one particular mandalorian who had left or something
James Jonah Jameson: ADMIRAL TRENCH IS THE GREATEST MENACE THE REPUBLIC HAS EVER SEEN!
Strange that Sev'rance Tann wasn't on the list a Chiss dark jedi acolyte
Because she only showed up in that one game.
Jabiim still lives in my head rent free
Republic comics were so damn good
Yes @@arachnomech88
Empire at War players can experience how painful that planet is firsthand
General Grievous is one of my favorite characters!! 🛡️🗡️✨ A very gifted strategist, tactician, and swordsman!!
There would be nothing more terrifying than to see Grievous, Durge, and Admiral Trench in the same battle
Great list. I feel like Osi Sobeck should have been on this list, he ran the Citadel which was a deadly place and that arc featured heavy losses on the Republics side.
Yeah, but he was a prison warden, not an actual military commander.
The guy made a grave mistake by entering the battlefield, and it cost him everything (literally)
Darts was able to hold his own, but I do think it’s fair to remember that Obi Wan was just using that fight as a distraction while Anakin and Ahsoka disarmed the bombs. He basically let him beat him up to take advantage of the zygerrian’s temper and grudge against the Jedi
Also let’s not forget that Riff Tansen was also the one who assassinated the previous Mon Cala monarch
Tamson was terrifying as a Kid, surprised that I never had nightmares about him. Dude was unhinged AF.
Hell yeah! I'm glad you're covering the Drak Horse comics' charcters.
Darts D’narr only got any hits in because Obi-Wan was dragging the fight out.
yup..glad you brought that up, it was bugging me..😅
Yeah, had Obi Wan wanted, Darts would have been out of the fight in seconds.
I was surprised that Generation Tech missed that bit aspect of the fight between Obi-Wan and D'narr. I knew I couldn't have been the only one that noticed this.
You forgot to mention Commander Nefarious, Caption "I'm a bad guy", and Admiral Bone-to-Pick who were also aboard the Invisible Hand with General Grievance.
Great video😊 I have a suggestion for the most feared Republic allies. Ewoks come to mind
A movie/show about Alto Stratus would be the most amazing thing ever. Of course I wouldn't count on the current owners of the franchise to consider it, not in a million years but still, it's nice to dream.
We need a show focusing on them please 🥺
Allan making more C.I.S. vids? I'll take 10 thank you.
Sev’rance Tann has shown to be a competent leader during the early months of the Clone Wars, she likely deserved a honorable mention here
Good list, a few fearsome individuals indeed.
can just tell this is going to be a great vid
Lol " Plunging his lightsaber into the Spidermans heart, ending his reign of terror" 🤣
Great vid my friend.
Though, I'd argue with your interpretation at the beginning, of the meaning of what The Clone Wars represents. Rather than "quality over quantity" I'd suggest; "Plot Armour over contrived shortcomings" courtesy of old creamy Sheeves himself. ;)
The CIS could have won the war in two years had the Sithy Kids not hamstrung them, on multiple occasions. Also, though The Republic may have owned Anakin's Rookie Card, The Sith owned his complete set when Sheeves launched order 66.
Not to mention; Terminator (Grevious), Spiderman (Trench), Braveheart (Stratus), Furiosa (Ventress), The Thing (Durge), RoboCop (Hokan), Bruce (Tamson), Khan (D'Nar) and many more. :)
We're talking about in-universe stuff, not why the storytellers did things the way they did in real life.
Also, are those the actual inspirations for those characters, and if so, are there any sources confirming that?
its funny, Ventress was a loyalist to the sith, but Palpatine was paranoid of her growing power, so had dooku betray her, she dosn't handle betrayal well, and people say the good guys are dumb
Not bad, now we should see an hear about the Republic counter parts though most those are probably just as easy to guess
The sith cant be blamed entirely for Grevious‘s misfortune. Sure, they made use of it and bombed him and turned him into a cyborg, but the stuff with the war before that was on the jedi/republic. His hatred for them is mandated
One of my favorites made the list the Hairless Harpy herself lol everytime I watch that episode I bust out laughing
Can you do a video of the most feared republic generals too?
You missed Sev'rance Tann
7:30 to be fair, I think obi wan was intentionally holding back to stall for time.
Sev’rance Tann was also a skilled commander.
Day 340 PLEASE DO MORE TACTICS AND STRUCTURES LIKE THE CIS NAVY STRUCTURE AND RANKS
I say this again but a little differently what did I do to get this lucky to get a video from gen tech and a separatist one as well but i know what i did to get this lucky
I’m gonna be honest the explosive knives probably should’ve had a bio code on them to make it so that only he could use them that would’ve probably been a smart one essentially a genetic block
"Darts Dnar suprising did some heavy blows on Kenobi in the fist fight"
You do realize Kenobi let that happened on purpose as a distraction right?
Grevious and Trench are my favorites
Its a shame we see the republic take on efforts of sending several jedi generals to a battlefield like where obiwan, mace windu, and obiwan were all present at a given time and resulted in victory. Meanwhile theres been lack of joint campaigns for the separatist. Imagine greivous ventress trench were all involved with the battle of umbara. The umbarans in addition to very tactical CIS leaders could of meant defeat for the republic even if pong krell was never there.
Why not clone Darge for an army
@@Ni-dk7ni, also, could you imagine trying to clone and train what is essentially a mass of muscles that can live for thousands of years?
Grevious got kiss bumper kicked by Gungans
what about cad bane or maraloeval
Why do they have legs on a planet with no land
I hope we do see some kind of CIS remnant in a TV series some time in the future.
I mean, there was Desix in The Bad Batch, and General Kalani and his boys in Rebels.
@@occam7382also Christopher Lloyd in mandalorian
Kenobi initially let Dart hit him in order to distract him from Anakin’s plan
Who was the mandalorian in the thumbnail?
What, no love for Spar?
Sev'Rance Tann?
What would credits be if he's property. Well she was going to give him freedom . To spend it.
The Jedi had some sharks on their side
Can someone please explain to me the lore of Alan hating Dolphins so much? I'm confused.
The separatist really knew how to pick their military leaders.
Evacuation of Jabin feels very different now after the fall of Afghanistan
Canon stories of star wars are nice
10:28 Gah! Wardrobe change!!!
We all knew who would be in the top 2
Did Yoda even knew that the Jedi temple was build on a dark side necsus
Is that.... 😂 a viking in the thumbnail
What if we lived in a starwars Universe. But earth was still the same. Would we detect this advanced civilization..
Are there any planets at earth leavel in the starwars galaxy. Aware their own a planet and space but No evidence of life beyond their planets
Possibly we're in the unknown regions of the Star Wars Galaxy u.u
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Assaj gave Anakin his scar.
Annunciate, brother. As my music teacher used to say: "use your lips, your partner will thank you!"
The three separatist leaders, who were most strategically capable and tactically brilliant in the field of battle and you want leading your armies are Grievous, Trench and Strauss
I feel bad for the peapole of Jabin
Hey Alan, I like robots.
Kenobi was a true manace lol
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I wonder if there were any non-jedi commanders in the republic? Not clones but just regular republic citizens.
CIS would've definitely won the Clone Wars in a timeline without Palpatine.
Nice thumbnail... Though except for the fact you felt the need to portray Alto Stratus as a random AI-generated image of course... I thought you were better than that, apparently not.
5:55 what is the name of this droid
A-series Assassin Droid. These assassin droids are very ancient, more than 3000 years old, and have their secret home in an ancient Rakata base deep in the Shadowlands of Kashyyyk.
@@mayeuldelaunay4058 THANK YOU
asajj ventress is backkkkkkkkkk
How is there life on Venus like planet Gabin
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So......somehow Durge survived?
Just as a reminder of how dirty the live-action movie and the modern Clone Wars show did Grievous: originally he gained his position in the CIS by beating Ventress and Durge in a 2v1 fight. Think about that.
Not to mention winning a 1v5 against jedi, two of which being councilmembers
@@bowlingpin3092 Yeah, and he didn't even have to do that. It was just sport to him, not a proper fight.
Sup
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How baked are you?
And some were competent ones😂
u read “most feared commanders” and fear strikes your heart, then continue and see “in the separatist droid army” and start laughing. like dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, deserter.
Same for the republic and the empire... Not sure you're old enough to know, but everybody dies champ.
@@sebastianb.3978 sorry i forgot to specify that they were all killed at the hands of said republic and empire. my point being is that if you look at the most feared commanders who lived through the war the separatists most feared commanders definitely ate ass in comparison. the only one that survived the clone war was ventress because she was betrayed and nearly blown up by Duku and then deserted. (duku purposefully allowed her to live) my fault tho my knowledge of life and death along with this franchise is clearly dwindling and my young clearly mushy brains cannot comprehend.
@@Sp00kyB00per Who's Duku? XD
@@sebastianb.3978 the fact u knew it was a who and not a fruit means you know exactly who it is. if you don’t know look up a duku fruit. my brain swaps the spelling of the fruit and fictional character.
@@Sp00kyB00per I have heard of people blowing shit up. Never heard of feuit blowing shit up. Try again bruv xP
Breh, Christophsis, not Christophis. Only mistake I've ever seen you make, I was beginning to think you were infallible.
All respect, Grievous was a half-ass baloney villain until the Clone Wars toon aired. In my opinion, they up-nerfed him in those. Grievous was the same when he died. Everyone forgets Obi-Wan learns from his mistakes - he's defensive.
I had no idea Durge was still canon, he's one of my favorite SW baddies but he was DESIGNED to be OP.
Also...he fucking survived? Geez, well I hope Disney just forgets he exists because I don't want his epic, ridiculously-powerful legacy to be ruined by some awkward live-action rendition of the character, or a toned-down Durge that loses in a situation which doesn't make sense.
General Grievous: the Separatist general who was captured by the Gungan army.
He doesn't impress me one bit.
The gungans are hardened warriors who have fought for thousands of years. And, they didn't beat grievous until tarpull sacrificed himself to wound grievous
@@rhysofsneezingdragon1758 yes that is correct, General Tarpals sacrificed his life in order for the Gungan army to capture General Grievous, a general who has killed many clone troopers, Jedi, and more, yet he was only able to kill one Gungan, who died willingly, so it wasn't like Grievous outmatched Tarpals, Tarpals outmatched Grievous.
All that said, it still pisses me off that Padme traded the captured, extreme high value Separatists' general, for the comparatively low value Republic Jedi General Skywalker. Not only does Padme give away a chance for the Republic to end the war, (remember, Grievous was so important that Darth Sidious ordered Dooku to capture Skywalker in order to have a bargaining chip to get Grievous back, indicating that Palpatine could not let the capture stand,) but the trade also negates General Tarpals' noble sacrifice.
peace is a way it is also a lie
Why wasn't Jabim more important in the Kenobi series? Oh right it was trash. Heavy sigh...
Sad that Filoni hates and does not understand the CIS and Grievous.
They desoeratky deserve more love!
Grievous’ canon backstory is terrible. Choosing to be a cyborg because he got ass hurt over the Jedi telling him “no” when he asked to be a Jedi.
Meanwhile the original from Legends at least didn’t make him look like a pathetic loser. Instead it made him a tragic figure turned into a monster.
Idk why darts danar is on this list. Lol why not do someone else. This guy was just a thug. Easily defeated