@@dirt_and_diesel Yep, and very gradual evolution at that. Everything changed around the millennium like you say (or maybe slightly before) with the merger with Fiat Agri I think.
Interesting video, I like the way you talk through the little problems and how you're hopefully going to solve them. You're making good progress and looking forward to see more
I’ve never had anything to do with Fords before so I’m telling from the perspective of someone without a clue (like most things I do). RUclips is just along for the ride 😂
Our off-road diesel fuel is dyed red here in the States . Since it’s not burdened with highway use taxes they add dye to discourage anyone from using it for on-highway vehicles.
Amazed how quickly your getting through it, especially working in the days and only getting the evenings and weekends 👌 it’ll be a weapon when it’s alive. Great job
It’s a really enjoyable project so I’m keen on it. It’s one or two nights a week and most of the weekend. I feel like I don’t get much done but when I look back at the videos I realise I am.
As someone who drives Ford tractors I’m finding it very interesting. Might be a daft suggestion but could you unbolt the turbo from the manifold and turn it 180’ so the exhaust goes to the front.
I'm enjoying this. If your keeping your back plate and flywheel then you'll want to keep your starter. I'd imagine you'll need to get hold of an 8 hole flywheel that is the right size, I don't know these particular engines but surely someone has the solution if it's been done before. I guess an engineering shop will have answers if it comes to filling and drilling. I put a new geared starter on a 2728t Ford dover, their great starters, very small and spin the engine much faster. Look forward to seeing it running 👍
That thrust bearing should just come off with a few chaps with a hammer, they aren’t that tight a fit, then just fit the new one with a piece of wood on top👍 nice to see it coming along, glad mark could sort you out
Someone else asked the same. It turned the engine over as expected on 12v so I think it is 12. I feel there may be gearing in it as the NH flywheel was a wider diameter. I may be talking crap though, I don’t know it for sure
These are awesome videos, really interesting. Looking forward to the next one and putting it back together. Can you show how the oil feed and returns. Looks different from what you thought you were going to do.
The original starter will easily start the 456 engine. Also a 6bolt crank was use on the naturally aspirated 456’s I think.also the excess oil line from the filter housing should be run to the existing oil cooler.
Timing mark in relation to what? I did drill it, that wasn’t the issue, the issue was I used the one slightly offset bolt hole as my datum without realising so I accidentally drilled offset. But yes I did drill it
🙋♂️Sorry, it was me who jinxed you😬🤣🤦♂️. She’s coming on well though and I’m surprised how much your able to swap from one to the other! Keep em coming👍
New to your channel the engine you have should tell you on the top of the rocker cover were the engine was made it should say built in basildon and the yellow starter is 24volt and the blue starter is 12volt which your tractor has a 12volt system. All the oil filters for the engine are made in America or elsewhere so I think you have a engine that is out of a uk combine.
Is it a 456 or is it the dove engine line like dt363 or dt380 my old boss is Ford guy and has plenty of parts if you want I can get his number if you need anything
I’d say probably heavy ground work somehow. The dash says 6k hours so I think they’ve been ground work PTO hours with its time in Greece. Plus it was covered in a fine soil in all the nooks and crannies so that would support it.
I don’t think so, I put a 12v battery on it when I first got the engine and it spun how it should. Just extra beef. I’m sure I read somewhere that there is some gearing in it which might make sense as the NH fly wheel was quite a bit wider so motor would need to spin faster. I don’t know, I’m running on guesswork at the moment. It will all become clear at some point soon
Appreciate you filming all this - definitely not boring. Just amazing how compatible Ford and New Holland kept their bits for decades.
Oh definitely. You can see the evolution right up until what I think was around the year 2000 mark (I’m no expert on fords so someone may correct me)
@@dirt_and_diesel Yep, and very gradual evolution at that. Everything changed around the millennium like you say (or maybe slightly before) with the merger with Fiat Agri I think.
Interesting video, I like the way you talk through the little problems and how you're hopefully going to solve them. You're making good progress and looking forward to see more
I’ve never had anything to do with Fords before so I’m telling from the perspective of someone without a clue (like most things I do). RUclips is just along for the ride 😂
Our off-road diesel fuel is dyed red here in the States . Since it’s not burdened with highway use taxes they add dye to discourage anyone from using it for on-highway vehicles.
Amazed how quickly your getting through it, especially working in the days and only getting the evenings and weekends 👌 it’ll be a weapon when it’s alive. Great job
It’s a really enjoyable project so I’m keen on it. It’s one or two nights a week and most of the weekend. I feel like I don’t get much done but when I look back at the videos I realise I am.
As someone who drives Ford tractors I’m finding it very interesting.
Might be a daft suggestion but could you unbolt the turbo from the manifold and turn it 180’ so the exhaust goes to the front.
It's Christmas already 😁👍 boxes of parts for fitting is always fun. 👍 Stay safe 🏴
I am really enjoying this project. I feel like I'm right there in the workshop, without having to do any of the hard graft. 👍
Good, glad you’re enjoying it. I know I am
I'm enjoying this. If your keeping your back plate and flywheel then you'll want to keep your starter. I'd imagine you'll need to get hold of an 8 hole flywheel that is the right size, I don't know these particular engines but surely someone has the solution if it's been done before. I guess an engineering shop will have answers if it comes to filling and drilling. I put a new geared starter on a 2728t Ford dover, their great starters, very small and spin the engine much faster. Look forward to seeing it running 👍
Yes we do have red offroad diesel here in the states
That thrust bearing should just come off with a few chaps with a hammer, they aren’t that tight a fit, then just fit the new one with a piece of wood on top👍 nice to see it coming along, glad mark could sort you out
Sorted it tonight, 5 minute job overall. It means the tractor half of the job is done and ready, just the flywheel side to sort now
@@dirt_and_diesel perfect👍 be some home when she’s done
Grand vid , be good to see it bolted up and running!!
It’s nice when things go together kinda easy
Are the starters same voltage? Bigger one could be 24v, worth a check. Videos not boring, keep them coming. 👍
Someone else asked the same. It turned the engine over as expected on 12v so I think it is 12. I feel there may be gearing in it as the NH flywheel was a wider diameter. I may be talking crap though, I don’t know it for sure
These are awesome videos, really interesting. Looking forward to the next one and putting it back together. Can you show how the oil feed and returns. Looks different from what you thought you were going to do.
Just get a starter off a TM nice and neat and pack a punch turning over.
The original starter will easily start the 456 engine. Also a 6bolt crank was use on the naturally aspirated 456’s I think.also the excess oil line from the filter housing should be run to the existing oil cooler.
Looks like an interesting project!! Be good to see how you get on
See if you can get ur turbo supply pipe after the filter.....taking it out of the block from the cam shaft will mean its unfiltered
you will never drill that flywheel it far to hard . weight and balance would be another concern if it was drilled plus timing marks will be out .
Timing mark in relation to what? I did drill it, that wasn’t the issue, the issue was I used the one slightly offset bolt hole as my datum without realising so I accidentally drilled offset. But yes I did drill it
Yes we do have red diesel here in America
That clears that up for me 👌🏻
@@dirt_and_diesel But how has the engine ended up in the UK?
🙋♂️Sorry, it was me who jinxed you😬🤣🤦♂️. She’s coming on well though and I’m surprised how much your able to swap from one to the other! Keep em coming👍
I knew you were behind all this 😂. Yeah, tbh it’s not catastrophic, just some shape shifting is needed
@@dirt_and_diesel 🤣🤣 at least in good for something then 🤷♂️. Yeah, definitely could have been worse! I still want a sleeper project 🤔
@@casto- you have enough projects already 😂🤣🤣
@@leonelectrical 😯 wash your mouth out… ok maybe a couple 🤣🤣🤦♂️
New to your channel the engine you have should tell you on the top of the rocker cover were the engine was made it should say built in basildon and the yellow starter is 24volt and the blue starter is 12volt which your tractor has a 12volt system. All the oil filters for the engine are made in America or elsewhere so I think you have a engine that is out of a uk combine.
I wonder would a flywheel from a 40 or 60 or even a 70 series be a better fit
Where did the David brown go
Is it a 456 or is it the dove engine line like dt363 or dt380 my old boss is Ford guy and has plenty of parts if you want I can get his number if you need anything
yeah keep it up, its interesting. a static camera would probably improve the viewing experience too
Quit the oil cooler in turbocharger engines is a wrong because the pistons need of cooler oil
Get a compact 90 for your oil return pipe to tidy it up a bit
I’m going to try and get hold of the original 90 from an 8340, pop right on
What Deere is that in the backround
I want to see yellow meets blue, 👍
😂
Great progress. The 8700 must have done a bit of heavy work to wear the splines like that. Or ignorant driver?
I’d say probably heavy ground work somehow. The dash says 6k hours so I think they’ve been ground work PTO hours with its time in Greece. Plus it was covered in a fine soil in all the nooks and crannies so that would support it.
We use red diesel in the states
You are cracking on quick soon be running
Hopefully 🙏
Is the bigger starter 24v and the old one 12v would explain the size difference to me
I don’t think so, I put a 12v battery on it when I first got the engine and it spun how it should. Just extra beef. I’m sure I read somewhere that there is some gearing in it which might make sense as the NH fly wheel was quite a bit wider so motor would need to spin faster. I don’t know, I’m running on guesswork at the moment. It will all become clear at some point soon
@@dirt_and_diesel was just a thought I had wasn't sure if it was right
🚜🚜🚜😎😎😎👍
Great project but ffs slow the movement of your camera down it causes motion sickness for people watching 👀
The best part is ur dog
He’s the best part of most things 🐕