Zombie Apocalypse Survival: Ax vs. Gun | MythBusters
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- During a zombie apocalypse, is it better to kill a zombie with a gun or an axe? With guns loaded, Adam and Jamie work to find the best method to kill a group of zombies and survive... maybe!
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Won't the axe get stuck in the head sometimes?
depends, flat blades are more desinged to be pulled out rather than jagged edges
not to say it wont happen but if it did it be rare or take a little more effort to pull out
+Oliver3168Large but what about when cutting wood the axe ends up getting stuck to the wood most of the time. Also they forgot to count collateral head shots
+KSI NINJAH IKR! Plus, we'll be using FMJs during a zombie apocalypse. Over penetration will be the least of our worries in that situation.
but the sound of a gun wouldn't that attract more of them?
depends on what kind of zombies.
friend showed me some animie once where the zombies where deaf and blind and relied on smell and vibrations.
so depends on what kind of zombie and since its make belive it can be anything from dumb shamblers to sprinting leaping mean machines
A: guns require bullets B: the axe would get stuck C: i would die immediately 😂
If your strong then it won’t get stuck
Best option is to run your ass off
wood has a grain that binds the wood together with cellulose. Human skulls are made of a hollow material that can fracture; wood and bone will act completely differently. Nothing is holding bones together once they get hit so there is no way an axe is getting stuck in a skull.
@@AbhyudayaDarbari ah yes the joestar last trick
They forgot that an axe can get stuck in a zombie's skull, therefore it's attack speed is reduced.
And it would dull overtime making each consecutive attack harder to hit
A zombie is rotting flesh, decaying constantly, one swing with a carpenter hammer can kill them no problem just from blunt force trauma
@@thegnomeriseofthepopcornra7315 Not exactly, bone can keep it's integrity for decades after death. Just because the surrounding tissue is rotting, doesn't weaken the skull, which can take quite a beating.
Axes are meant to not get stuck though but I do agree that this test is faulty
They tested it on a ballistic jelly thing with a sorta fake skull and brain matter though. it came right out, so no getting stuck.
the biggest problem, no one in the top comments is pointing out is, Jamie was stuck because he didn't want to step on the actors back to continue running around in a circle.
Cod zombies?
or he could have gone behind the fence, blocked himself off from them. Then shot them all from a distance.
Backonos Back even if he would've, guarantee he would've tripped over them. your statement is invalid
Yet the biggest problem with a gun is 1. Availability of ammo and 2. Noise. A silencer doesn't make a gun have no noise, and it would help, but you're bound to attract more if you use a gun. While the ax can get stuck, its a safer bet for the reliability, usage, and sound, in my opinion.
Don't forget the zombie that blocked him used common sense and got in the way, rather than mindlessly charging to where he is now.
Don't forget guns require bullets
Oh my god your a genius !!!
i like riot
Don't forget rounds require bullets and guns require rounds.
Of u have a gun u prolly have a crap ton of ammo
Rommel thats what he said
I dunno guys... This test seems flawed in so many levels. I think it requires a different type of testing
i agree. lots of things arent considered in this test, that i guess they couldn't really add in.
alex mejia i agree with you. He hit a zombie with a ax more than once and it didnt die
The derp Potato. Because he didnt swing fast enough. But yeah it may require a fast hit to one shot it but several slightly slower hits will work too. If nkthing ekse it should be knocked to the ground, buying him a few seconds
@@curseofgladstone4981 spear would be faster than any axe swinging...stab is a shorter movement after all.
@@rpk321
But unless you get it in the eye it may just glance off the skull. May need a bit of practice first.
But yeah that may be better.
Love the mythbusters, but I gotta say.
This test was absolutely horrible.
Yea why a shot gun when u can use a 100 round semi ak or ar drum
@@coreykimbrough3237 Yes, go find not only an AK but also 100s of rounds to use, guns are simply not a reliable option in a zombie scenario for lot's of reasons.
@@Warlord_-vw6te I dont agree guns are the best how could you find a axe but not a gun
Warlord_1777 There are 5 guns per person in the US, along with almost 15 trillion bullets just for civilians. It’s not hard
NoCumBacks The AK isn’t a legal weapon that can be owned by the average citizen.
didn't take into account the force of pulling the Axe out of the zombie
Kick isnt really an issue at such close range. Very easy to get back on target
axes dont get stuck due to their shape so it would be very negligabe
Nearly none? Axe are made to not get stuck, skulls is thin, also most likely ultra rotten and under the skull is only water/lubrification to get it out. Most of the time skull would just open up and therefore 0 resistance else it will just slide out as easily as a dick in a well lubrificated vagina
also they did not take into account that Adam STOPPED the axe with his muscle force (is this a thing?). as opposed to a 'real life scenario', where he would just LET the axe hit the zombie. stopping an axe will fatigue you sooner.
Colonel Gayfur uhhh no. U skull is not as east as you would think to just ax and walk away.
I'd give this test about 3/10 for accuracy.
But 20/10 for how much fun Adam, Jamie, and the hundred or so volunteers are having!
9/10 for accuracy. You cant please people who already have their minds made up. Axes are actually not hard to pull out, so the effect of that would be negligible..
Tbh it's a zombie apocalyps you use what you have
@@jhonklan3794 Id still give it a low accuracy, it was comparing weapons in a very uncontrolled environment with substitutes as actually testing this would be very inhumane, looked fun for them to do though
@@jhonklan3794this test scores low on accuracy for three reasons.
First, Adam wasn’t allowed to swing the axe sideways, if he was allowed to he’d have a much higher scores and it’d probably be how most people use an axe as a weapon.
Second, they severely limited their movement range by forcing them to stay in that circle, I don’t know about you but I’m sure as heck not going to stay in one spot while a horde tries to eat me.
Third, they forced Jamie to only shoot at zombies in the circle, removing the main advantage of a gun.
not accurate. they weren't actually killing people.
and would you want there to be a mass murder for science
+Highfighter219er Cough cough* sarcasm *cough cough
In case of a real zombie apocalypse, do not use this as a tutorial. I repeat, do not.....use this.....as a tutorial.
😂😂😂
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_in case of a REAL zombie apocalypse_
😒Hum...
My man here from the future!
Ah yes, the real zombie apocalypse, the one that last 15 minutes because your far right neighbor has enough arsenal to take on the federal government.
Do you know how many guns there are in America?
@@tomhill3248 how many guns?
I only know guns from CS:GO like Ak-47,Desert Eagle,Revolver,Spas12,etc
So what about trying to get the axe outta the zombies head? Test has to many variables not counted for
It's a fictional myth. Stop thinking too hard.
Tim Cook Doesn't mean we cant have an actuate test
+Tim Cook did you mean accurate?
+TheSummerWarrior12 and if you wanted a definitive test then there are obviously things you can do to spike the head of the axe to decrease the force needed kill. Also there are many guns that have a drum mag or ammo box on them with high calibre. And those guns can kill around 150 zombies if you take into account all are heads hits and none miss.
And are those guns that can kill around 150 zombies just lying around ready to be pick up or you need to kill some and pray that it will drop some loots?
A Spear would be a far better melee weapon in this situation...or just attach a bayonet to your rifle...save space for other survival tools....
Spears are so underestimated in the general public...
Amethyst Blade any pole arm really, a poleaxe like this www.bytheswordinc.com/image/popup?imagePath=%2Fimages%2Fproduct%2Flarge%2Fcd-1046_1_.jpg would be your best bet. The versatility of the head, and long reach the pole is likely why is was developed, and used on the battlefield. My guess it would make short work of anything fleshy you put in front of it.
Just made the same comment a minute ago and totally agree, a combat spear is the best zombie weapon except indoors.
@@minuit7915 Even indoor...you actually don't need much space to thrust forward and recover rapidly...moving? you hold it up vertically like a guard pose...too close? whack someone with it...but yeah, a short sword would be better, dagger is too close...
This guy spears
@@willdouds7436 What? Spear is the King of Battlefield for quite some time...Until guns get good at least...and then there are many types of Bayonets...
In a situation where you're going kamikaze, then yes, an axe probably would be better. But if you're trying to escape, as Jamie shows, a gun allows you to engage and to stay away for longer. so if there was an escape route, Jamie would be more likely to get out alive.
And that's the goal. Success shouldn't be measures by the number of zombies you kill, but if you survive or not.
Well, if you were were in the military then your goal would to be eradicate zombies, kamakazi if needed i guess
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also to be considered, with both weapons... skin is porous. getting blood on you could be lethal. so stay far away from the undead. though when close the ax might have the advantage of less blood spray.
Yes well that's what they were showing, WORST CASE SCENARIO what gives you a better chance to survive if you're surrounded by zombies
Also the fatigue would occur much quicker with a real axe since it’s a lot heavier than a foam axe 😤
BRANDON MURILLO they totally should’ve gotten someone younger too so that they have better endurance then.
The reason the foam axe is so big is because they accounted for weight and they actually weigh the same
Zombies aren't real either
@@grantmyers908 Remember, this is 2020, all you can do is wonder what god may throw at us next.
Remember Rule 1 of Zombieland: Cardio
The moment a mythbusters episode exists everyone suddenly becomes an “expert” at the topic at hand.
I don’t know a creative name someone help me yeah all the comments
The virus of expertise spreads quickly
Had they continued to make episodes, we'd have a full season just to appease the complaints.
There is a zombie expert in the comment section as well 😂
I mean, you have to admit, a short-barreled AR platform with a 30-120 round magazine which can be reloaded in under a second, fired without manual operation like a pump which can be short stroked and shouldered for accurate fire, combined two pistols with 17 rounds each just in case one jams or runs out of ammo would've been far better in this specific test than two pump-action shotguns without a stock and one pistol. It also would've been much more realistic for most of the states in America.
But he won't be able to swing that quick if it gets stuck in a skull
Plus a real axe would weigh more than a foam one. He would have tired sooner even if he were to remove the axe cleanly every time.
+Daniel Andersson It was a real axe covered in foam
No. He definitely wouldn't just cover the axe in foam. There's got to be a safety issue with swinging a real axe, with foam covering it, at people.
Yeah I don't think it's real anymore I was just too lazy to comment
Yup, probably more effort taking the axe out than putting it in
what about a semi auto where you have 24 plus shots in a already loaded magazine
or an automatic, you know the scythe technique is frowned upon but with a beltfeed? never mind that 308 or bigger would if not kill when struck elsewhere than head atleast knock arms/legs of a zombie and make them severly more immobile
Depends on how rotten the zombie is and what kind of ammo you are using. A full metal jacked 308 will just make holes but a soft point Bullet for example will do much worse wounds
bob445566DE but the fmj might go thru several zombies and score a headshot eventually :P
Yeah Bee true
+Yeah Bee
what about a minigun/Gatling ?
you know, With à 500 ammo belt :D
Didn't account for time removing the axe...
That and I don't think the foam axe weights the same as a metal one, so he'd score less hits before tiring. (correct me if I'm wrong, seems to be a prior episode)
***** Well, the force required to actually lift the axe before/after each swing then accelerating it to get the next swing started should account for that "help" gravity and weight give, in the best scenario it would be a zero sum and he'd be able to swing it the same amount of times regardless of weight, but the amount of energy you need to lift an object is more than what you get when letting it drop, thus why perpetual movement systems are impossible.
But thinking a little more I realized maybe they just covered an actual axe with foam instead of removing the head first or attaching it to an empty handle.
In that kind of scenario, it'd be smarter to just save stamina and run, _especially_ if you're alone.
+Chase Noel Yeah, for like, a few seconds (minutes? if you're lucky) before you drop exhausted...
That's why cardio is number 1. Though you aren't giving your legs enough credit, they are designed for the long haul more often than not, and while blood O2 may be low, you can still walk away. How far and at what speed is determined by individual fitness but US Army standard for 20 year olds is a 2 mile in 15 minutes, so a reasonably fit survivor should be able to do something similar. And for those who might say something about starting fresh, this is part of a 3 course PT test, first being 60 Push ups in 2 min, 60 Sit Ups in 2 min, though there is some resting period between each phase depending on the number of people being tested, but if you're one of the last to be tested you only get a minute or two between Sit Ups and the Run. Which for a physically fit person should be more than enough to hydrate and stretch.
You can walk backwards and retreat while shooting, instead of waiting to get overwhelmed. You can also climb on top of something to become inaccessible to the zombies. When using the axe, you're vulnerable and can't get away. If your foe fights by biting, you want distance between you and them. Distance is safety.
In most cases, there is very little room to run. Climbing would make you vulnerable to an attack.
Ummm it can run out of bullets
All fun and games until it gets hammed or runs out of bullets
@Random person You probably wouldn't live long enough fighting against a crowd of zombies with an axe for "no ammo limitations" to be a real advantage. With a gun, climb up a pole or something and kill zombies until you run out of ammo. You could kill a group of hundreds of zombies at once. Good luck trying that with an axe.
Realistically, there are only so many people who can get infected. Everyone with a gun could get to a safe shooting position like a secure, hard to access rooftop and take out a whole lot of them, thinning the herd to the point of safe travel.
Of course, there's no reason to limit yourself to carrying one weapon in a warzone.
And zombies are connected with sound
There are so many people in RUclips that just can't wait for a real zombie apocalypse....
why tho? i dont see why you would want a zombie apocalypse. If you did then i would question there mental health.
Can't wait? You mean you didn't know? We are having the Zombie apocalypse already and have been in it for a few years.
Curruthers go outside and socialise you freak
@@Daniel-pv2xc lol you're so funny. My job IS socialization so scrub off and go get your erection elsewhere.
if that happens, most of them will be zombies
WHY NOT JUST USE GUNS FOR LONG RANGE AND AX FOR SHORT RANGE THERE I SOLVE IT DAMN
Tajae knight ikr
Guns for attracting zombies axe to kill them for points :D
How about a suppressor? Sure the bullet will make a lot of noise but it's less noise than before. Or use a powerful air rifle; demo ranch recently showed a decent air rifle that has good power.
Bc thats camper and camper's get banned
Tajae knight true, guns for quick escape/run and axe or clubs for longer periods or quick near shots
wrong guns. try it with an ar 15 or some kind of carbine, any gun with a decent stock is so much easier to aim quickly, and use 30 round mags. I guarantee a number in the 100s
Actually shotguns are way better cuz of spread and also why would they use an AR15 on actually people in costumes?
+The Knome: Rise of the popcorn rapist actualy shotgun are way worst because you DONT want spray, since zombies need a good chock to the brain to die... A spray all over the place is just plain useless on them
+Xavier H. Not talking bout birdshot, buckshot no matter the spread will always be a 100% kill.
At the range he was shooting at, the pellet spread would be quite minimal. Not entirely sure why shotguns are used so often in zombie flicks. If I had a choice, an AR-15 or AK-47 with a 100 round drum would be a much better choice than a shotgun.
Smart idea for a good stock. Get a good solid one and you could use it to bash heads. A bayonet too for close up work.
You also have to realize you are using a toy gun that isn't built to standard.
What if you accidentally hit the person acting as a zombie? 😂
That's why it was a foam axe
Know how to get rid of hoards?
Explosives/Automatic Weaponry. That will do the job.
mem reflect lmao😂😂
Noice dude.
Artillery rifles
Someone hasn't heard of the battle of Yonkers..
Jamie could have went for much longer, but he was clearly afraid of trampling over the live people on the ground, which stopped him.
Not saying melee weapons are worse, however if you have unlimited ammo then they clearly are better then an axe.
Technically moving through a pile of dead zombies is a death sentence in and of itself because the problem with the "living dead" is that they might not be dead enough even if you give them a "killing blow". There is no specific reason why a gun would perform better then an axe or something in a close range scenario. The advantage of guns is long distance which also keeps you away from infection.
+Das Neko rate of fire verses rate of swing... especially if you get something like an automatic weapon and hundred round mags.
or are in the Nazi Zombie universe where melee weapons take forever to kill and even head shots don't one shot kill... and it's all about laying in the hurt as fast as possible.
*****
No there are far more things to consider like for example the contamination risk. If you blew a zombies head apart with a shotgun for example then the virus will spread all over the place through its gibblets and particles. Granted this is based on the assumption that it is a virus.
Anyway in those cases having a weapon like for example a spear would keep you at a safe distance as well as not being as messy.
***** I mentioned those things in another threat in this video... In your defense it wasn't in this thread.
*****
Safe ;)
Depends on the gun. A well maintained M4 can go all day and not jam. In the army we would use just a few of them to run a battery(company) through rifle quals so that there were less weapons to clean so we could go home sooner after getting back from the range. It comes with a standard 31 round magazine. 2 magazines would meet their average with only 1 mag change which only takes 2 seconds.
also rounds can don’t have to hit the head, you can take out legs to make the zombies drop, or necks with an axe it needs to be more direct less room for error
Guns jam, reloading sure, but... how about axe recovery? The axe never actually penetrates any skulls, all simulated. How about prying axe out? How about axe getting slippery because of blood/brain soup? How about over-swing and miss with momentum taking axe-wielder toward instead of away from zombies? How heavy was the foam axe compared to real steel?Let's be fair, this was a no win scenario, 57 or 67 zombies to 1 human that's the only life to be lost. Epic fail. How about continuous retreat scenario where you can use distance to buy time? I know, I know, but I don't like the no-win scenario.
+JonMcWhite foam axe was weighted to be the same as the steel one also there isnt as much work in axe recovery because of the skulls tendency to crack... its nothing like wood... its like hitting an egg with a knife...
+JonMcWhite Well if we're trying to be realistic as possible, life or death situations cause the body to go into overdrive, flooding adrenaline, dopamine, and other hormones into the body making it temporarily faster, stronger, and fight longer. Unless we can imitate that scenario I think true accuracy is difficult.
+quittingcreativity I actually believe that given the nature of this test, biochemically they are quite close. Consider that there would be a real life or death situation for someone to run away, this would be national running competition.
Ax is too heavy! Try swinging it 20 times and see how it feels! You need something light like a machete paired with a gun/bow and arrow
i am 13 jear old and every summer i cut wood with ax i think i can get easily ower 20 tmes
+Veli Hälvin I think you should stop chopping wood and start taking summer school for the spelling
Michael Lyszak what did you exept for a estonian who dosnt use english every day
im not a nerd who studies all nigth i rather sleep
+Veli Hälvin At 13 the zombies would easily overpower you, would you even be able to hit the top of their heads?
Good answer kiddo, not everybody on this planet speaks english. Your english is fine as it is, I can understand you perfectly.
Having authored a book with a zombie character, I've given zombies a tremendous amount of thought. My conclusion is that firearms are a REALLY bad idea in a zombie apocalypse, but maybe not for the reason you're thinking or the reason featured in the video. The reason: NOISE
From the time you fire your first shot, you'll be summoning every zombie within half a quarter of mile to your exact location. The more you shoot, the more you'll have to shoot. Using a melee weapon, on the other hand, is nearly silent and can only be heard from a few yards away at best. With a melee weapon, you can kill whatever zombies are directly in front of you, then run and hide so you don't have to keep fighting.
If you absolutely MUST use a firearm, you don't want to use something extremely powerful. You only need to break the skull and scramble the brain a little. You can do this easily with a .22, possibly even with a shorty, and definitely suppressed. The less noise you make, the fewer zombies you'll attract to your location.
A note about firearm suppressors (what most would call silencers): THEY ARE NOT SILENCERS!
Suppressors REDUCE noise, but they can't eliminate it entirely. For larger caliber firearms, it's still loud, just not so loud that it will blow out your eardrums. For something like a .22, it will make it sound like a firecracker. The only time it's really really quiet is if you're using a subsonic shorty round, and then you still have the mechanical noise of the gun firing and loading the next round.
Something I might suggest would be something along the lines of a .22 caliber air rifle. They're quieter than a traditional firearm and are powerful enough to hunt young pigs by shooting them in the brain ... which is EXACTLY what you'd be doing to the zombies.
As far as melee weapons, I've devised a two-weapon system. The first is a short spear, maybe 3-4 feet long. The spear has a loop at the bottom you use to attach it to your belt. The top has about 6 inches of spear-tip, then a cross piece so the zombies can't push themselves down the shaft. It's basically just there to create a buffer of space between you and the zombie so he can't get you in any meaningful way. Once he's speared, use something along the lines of a tomahawk with a spike on the back end to destroy the brain. It's lightweight and focuses the attack onto a very small area so it requires relatively little effort to penetrate the skull. This means you can swing it faster and more often without exhausting yourself. These will be your primary zombie fighting weapons. The only time you would want to use a firearm is if you absolutely need to kill something at range.
Why the two weapon system? It just seems that it adds unnecessary steps and reduces efficiency. Plus that wouldn't work in a scenario where there are multiple zombies, which is almost always the case. It would probably be more effective to just utilize a weapon with a long reach, like a sling blade or a scythe
@@matthewfarmer8510 Like I said, I've given this a tremendous amount of thought :)
The two weapon system is just a little more work, but the payoff is a greatly enhanced degree of control over the battlespace, which means it's much safer for the living. I'll explain.
In the case that it's just one zombie, remember that the spear is attached to your belt on the back end, so when a zombie walks up on you, he's stuck just out of grabbing/biting distance. This gives you all the time in the world to observe your surroundings before you attack. Without the spear, you're always forced to attack immediately.
In the case that there is more than one zombie, once you get your first zombie stuck, DON'T KILL HIM! Instead, pivot around him and use him as a meat shield to block the other zombies. This allows you to engage multiples without having them all on you at the same time.
@@chubbyninja842 But how do you account for time lost in securing a zombie? Like, say several zombies are walking towards you, shoulder to shoulder. By the time you spear the first, wouldn't the others have cleared the range where the first zombie was, thus making the first one ineffective as a meat shield?
@@matthewfarmer8510 "But how do you account for time lost in securing a zombie?"
Securing the first zombie is almost a non-issue. He's just going to walk onto the point of your spear, doing your job for you.
"Like, say several zombies are walking towards you, shoulder to shoulder."
We're not talking about soldiers marching in formation. We're talking about zombies. The likelihood that they'll be walking shoulder to shoulder is going to be negligible. That said, say we run into that one in a million trio of zombies that walk shoulder to shoulder. All you have to do is dart quickly to one side of the other ... and now they're walking single file toward you rather than shoulder to shoulder. Single file is your best possible option.
And regardless of all that, simply having the spear option doesn't put you at a disadvantage at any point in all of this. There's no reason NOT to have it. I'm sure we can brainstorm all day and come up with situations in which it becomes less useful, but those are going to be less common situations. Far more often than not you'll be MUCH better off with my system. You can't just throw it out because there MIGHT be a situation in which it's less useful somewhere down the road.
@@chubbyninja842 I think the problem between our schools of thought is this. You see no reason to not have the spear, I see no problem that makes it necessary. That's where we disconnect.
If we are talking about the zombies everyone knows:
1. Axe can get stuck, or even break.
2. That foam is not simulating the real metal axes weight.
3. Guns make sound.
4. You are not going find any guns lying on the streets.
5. Ammo is a problem
6. Not every random bullet you shoot will kill a person.
7. You cant handle some guns recoil with one hand.
@Straight Jacket Bones can stay hard for a decade or thousands of years.
#1. Suppressors are more common now than ever, and only require a $200 tax stamp
#2. Each AR platform will carry between 30-120 rounds per magazine reliably. If using the ......NATO standard 55 grain XM193 ammo since there are literally billions of these rounds ......available, a magazine of 120 rounds would less than a 1 lb or only .9428571 lbs. Reloads ......are swift as well
#3. At least one pistol should also be carried. A good option would be a Glock which can
.......reliably carry 19 rounds of 124 grain 9mm. Each magazine would weigh an awful heavy
0.3365714 lbs.
#4 This means that with 1.6159999 pounds worth of ammunition you have 158 bullets before ......having to reload. Assuming you have no more ammo. If ammo is carried, each gun is ......reloaded and chambered in under a second and averaged between 6000-15000 rounds ......before malfunctions in military testing during adverse conditions. A Glock is expected to ......have a service live of 12000-40000 before any breakage, and have been known to go much .....longer.
#5.If any police or military were killed, or your average citizen, their weapon would be chamber .....in these calibers.
6.Iron sights are the way of the past, with a reticle on a rifle, even someone without training will never miss a shot within 15 yards. Even on small targets.
7.Recoil- According to the American rifle Association,"A Rem 55-gr. bullet and 7 lb. rifle: Recoil Energy: 3.7 ft. lbs." so 3 and a half lbs of recoil being nudged into your shoulder and with a pistol,"(9x19 124 grain ammunition) 2.0lb pistol=4.4lbs of recoil" directed into your palm.
Summary, Jaime took out as many as he did with 3 pump actions, and a pistol, if he had 156 rounds on tap before reloading, which would simulate two of the most commonly owned guns in America the result would have been very, very different.
No Malfunctions, more precise aim, more ammo very little weight.
I wish you the best, have a great day :)
@@Mrjohnnymoo1 Not to mention, you can, you know... move...
@@jordanharrison8769 This as well
yeah, but they used pump action shotguns at close quarters, theres a reason soldiers use semi, burt and auto rifles in battle, they have longer range wich is the whole reason youre using a gun, they have more ammo and you dont need to wait 2 second after every bullet.
In reality, you could probably use the gun as a sort of club to kill zombies. For obvious reasons they couldn't do that, but if you're out of ammo and don't have anything else, I'm swinging my gun like a baseball bat.
only if it's a rifle or a shotgun.
Could also attach bayonette. I think it would be most efficient to use a sword however something like a Katana could decapitate zombies quickly and easily
Only if you get a real Katana for a few thousand dollars, not a POS replica.
Jordan Scott or with the stock
When you said use the gun as a club i thought of putting a bayonet on a pistol
But wouldn't it be difficult to pull the axe out of the zombies head? So you wouldn't be swinging a lot less, and would be more fatigued from pulling the axe out?
+Artcade Well in fact most axe hits to a head does not get stuck in the head it breaks the skull and more squash the brain inside than get stuck in it, of course it hit the brain but not deep enough to get stuck.
lets cover it in glue and try again
With that kind of swing, it's gonna get stuck.
Axes have the steep bevels for more than just a strong cutting edge. It also means you need less force to remove it once it is stuck. Axes are also more than likely to just cave the skull in, not a clean cleave, as the skull is brittle and not very thick.
You'd have to be VERY unlucky for an axe to get stuck in a skull when you swing with the kind of force Adam used on the gel head.
Also, if we're talking an axe exactly like Adam is using (assuming a human could effectively swing one made of solid steel or what have you), the bevel is so steep it will crush heads more often than split them.
Axe have a Angled sharp edges, so wherever it hits, it'll split wide open..
Why are people expecting a realistic representation of a Zombie apocalypse if we've never had (and never will) have a zombie apocalypse in the first place? How would we know what a zombie's behavior is? Do they go in a straight line? Do they run? Do they use tactics like surrounding the opponent? Do they care who gets the kill? Are they intelligent enough to throw items or use simple weapons? This is how THEY decided to set up the apocalypse and they did an amazing job at it.
People saying that they used the wrong gun are also wrong. They can't go around testing dozens of different guns just to see what gives the best result. They decided on the standard shotgun for a reason, and that is because it's the most realistic weapon alongside a handgun. You really aren't going to get a machinegun or a RPG in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, and those weapons sound extremely inconvenient anyway.
Good god, if people keep saying that this is half-assed then go make the freaking episodes yourself. Just wake up and realize that a "real" zombie apocalypse is nothing like your Call of Duty or Minecraft game. These people do better research on the subject than you ever will, they present it in a better way than you ever might. There is a reason they are starring the show and not you.
+James Thuy Of course zombies exist. If you think otherwise then you've clearly never been in a supermarket on pension day. Looks like Michael Jackson's Thriller!
just so you know a regular doublestack handgun alone holds 15+ rounds (like one you would find on a cop during an apocalypse) and could go through 3+ heads with +p copper jacketed rounds and reload time is under 1 second and rarely jams unlike it's paintball counterpart and can be reloaded in under a second with a little practice. There is also this thing called bottlenecking where you can aim at the point of breach several meters away and pile up bodies as obstacles. my standoff distance with a handgun alone is about 40 meters but for heads shots make that 20. with loaded magazines I can run through 15 rounds accurately in about 7 seconds at 20 meters and about 4 seconds under 5 meters. that makes about 100 rounds a minute including mag changes. That's why only an idiot would use a tactical pump shotgun with a wide choke and a low round count for multiple offenders in an open area. I carry (that means already have on me) a glock model 22 Gen 4 that shoots .40 s&w also a standard issue weapon for police in my area. Glocks are light hi capacity common handguns that are carried by about 60% of law enforcement around the world. most of the rest are armed with what are xalled glock variants like Springfield xds or xdms or a smith and Wesson m&p. Some of the most reliable guns on the market that rarely jam.
If two diseases like acting as a canibal and a thing in the brain that you would not feels weapons or guns.
Btw look at a video that has some reasons that an apocalyptic outbreak would happen
+Cody Roder It isn't about "feels" its about destroying the central nervous system that is why I said accurate fire.
To quote Max Brooks’ Zombie Survival Guide:
“Knives don’t need reloading.”
Chuckles The Werewolf they break and need sharpening and get you way to close
@@Utubesuperstar Well, yeah. But it's all about resource management, you know? Lots of balance between the two. You're balancing resources and stuff like noise, with how dangerous it is.
Read that book. Glad to see someone else utilize the knowledge Max gave us.
@@djkingston6219 Ay man, use the right tool for the job.
Good luck trying to penetrate a human skull with a knife.
It looks so effortlessly in the movies, where people's heads are almost mushy.
This is the most inaccurate test ever:
A) every swing with the axe needs a minimum amount if force and not just a slight touch
B) every time a zombie is killed with the axe a minimum amount of force is also needed to pull the axe out
C) sometimes the axe can get stuck so he'll need extra time to get it out
Finally (the biggest flaw)
D) the gun wasn't allowed to immediately start shooting and instead had to wait for the zombies to come into the zone like the axe. This contradicts/takes away the guns main advantage which is its range and how you can attack from afar without having to get close to them
Isaac Lee
Agree with all except your first point. The minimum swing speed was to simulate the amount of force needed to crack the skull. But yeah apart from that i agree. Also an automatic weapon would be far hetter than a shotgun especially at mid to long range. To be honest we could go on all day poking flaws in this like how its unlikely someone will be going solo. After all. When everyone you love is dead any human contact is going to be appreciated.
But lets give the advantages for an axe.
No ammo.
Easier to aquire in most countries. I know in america guns are applenty but in most other countries there not.
Quieter. Guns are loud as hell. Your gunna attract a lot more zombies if you arent careful. If their walking dead zombies thats not too big a deal but if their more like wwz zombies then staying silent is essential.
However, the axe was used badly in that the grip was awful. Adam could have held his hands closer toward the base of the axe and generated more torgue, allowing for more force with less effort, which would have tired him out less
Thanks Sherlock
i would be running backwards not towards them and go left and right with any melee weapon you have to get close which is why guns will always be better then melee weapons also when his guns jammed he tries to fix it instead of tossing it to the side or on the ground or realistically at the zombies
And, the axe is heavier, so there is more effort needed
What about the force to pull it out of their head?
The bigger question is... what happens when you work as a team. Guess we will never know.
+Rob Elliott i know right? wtf
Jaime's favorite myth, he gets to shoot fans in the head and face for science
No harmless zombie was hurt in this video
no hoizontal swingin either, decapitation + possibly multikills.
Not how it works. Bone is hard.
Horizontal swings would be a good choice, yes, but hitting more than one target with one swing is the realm of cartoonish fiction.
SarSaraneth as someone with advanced combat training and expirience in the blade arts... good luck disproving something i know to work... tatami rolls are as hard as bone.. and there is also a few bone hard materials that could replace bone. besides it don't need to always be able to take off the head but severing the control nerves. lose that connection lose control of the body becoming less of a threat. plus the added bonus of bing some time, and continuing momentum in circular or curving patterns. a large heavy blade can be continued through multiples in rapid succession more fluidly and rapidly without burning energy as much.. however the sensors setup they are using pretty much nullifies being able to test that so..yeah... they shoulda gotten in some armor and done a gauntlet much more useful data that way. having to simulate the strike every time the way he is is ..... cartoony. also i said"possibly" that means it ain't gonna be guarenteed. so though somewhat unlikel for an untrained twit like adam or jamy it is quite possible. there are plenty or blade arts that teach and prractice multiple striking moves. see ultimate warrior eps with the long swords a few of them used actual bone if memory serves to do exactly this... cow bone being much thicker then human and still multi-kills wer recorded. now what do you think will happen with an item specifically designed to chop through hard materials like an axe.
Nicholas Vaters
You're talking to a HEMA practitioner, sir. One with some specialization in the Longsword, as a matter of fact, and a solid grounding in the use of an axe.
With an axe that size, cutting through more than one target is not going to work.
As for Ultimate Warrior, you're not earning credibility by referring to that trash as a source.
Lastly, paragraphs. It's not hard to divide your words, so do so.
good for you I am Canadian forces veteran with advanced combat training also experienced with different fighting systems and weapons including axes, long sword, halberd, staff, and bow. and suffice to say multiple hits in one swing is quite possible.... the targets need to be aligned fairly well for multiple targets to be hit wer it counts... but it DOES WORK. and by using angles as i said the momentum can be more quickly switched from target to target then this; up, down up , down. even a glancing blow can give valuable time to take down another threat and come back to the first. part of the reason for rapid fire in gun battles and sweeping fire with machine guns. one shot kills aren't as important as sending out the pain.
Nicholas Vaters
From your words, I can understand that you don't know what you're talking about _or_ how to compose a sentence.
That axe was not the correct weight... a real one would be heavier, and could possibly cause him to wear out more quickly... though the weight could be an advantage, at least on the down swing.
+Chipwhitley274 they did apply extra weight to make it feel like a real axe tho
+Chipwhitley274 More important to me is the fact that the axe might get stuck in one of the zombie's heads. Not a problem for bullets. Just a thought
+Noah Evans
guns can jam.
+TheBraveGallade Axes can break too. its not been accounted for in this test, where guns jamming has been.
+TheBraveGallade not to mention the fact that just because the axe was swung at a speed that would allow it to produce a kill, doesnt mean it was accurately placed.
Kind of hard to actually test any of this out for real though.
Axe: Great against zombies but trash against raiders with guns
Guns: Only good against zombies, but at least it's a fair fight against armed raiders.
Or u can use a shield and drgon slayer(gut,s sword from berserk)
#1. Suppressors are more common now than ever, and only require a $200 tax stamp
#2. Each AR platform will carry between 30-120 rounds per magazine reliably. If using the ......NATO standard 55 grain XM193 ammo since there are literally billions of these rounds ......available, a magazine of 120 rounds would less than a 1 lb or only .9428571 lbs. Reloads ......are swift as well
#3. At least one pistol should also be carried. A good option would be a Glock which can
.......reliably carry 19 rounds of 124 grain 9mm. Each magazine would weigh an awful heavy
0.3365714 lbs.
#4 This means that with 1.6159999 pounds worth of ammunition you have 158 bullets before ......having to reload. Assuming you have no more ammo. If ammo is carried, each gun is ......reloaded and chambered in under a second and averaged between 6000-15000 rounds ......before malfunctions in military testing during adverse conditions. A Glock is expected to ......have a service live of 12000-40000 before any breakage, and have been known to go much .....longer.
#5.If any police or military were killed, or your average citizen, their weapon would be chamber .....in these calibers.
6.Iron sights are the way of the past, with a reticle on a rifle, even someone without training will never miss a shot within 15 yards. Even on small targets.
7.Recoil- According to the American rifle Association,"A Rem 55-gr. bullet and 7 lb. rifle: Recoil Energy: 3.7 ft. lbs." so 3 and a half lbs of recoil being nudged into your shoulder and with a pistol,"(9x19 124 grain ammunition) 2.0lb pistol=4.4lbs of recoil" directed into your palm.
Summary, Jaime took out as many as he did with 3 pump actions, and a pistol, if he had 156 rounds on tap before reloading, which would simulate two of the most commonly owned guns in America the result would have been very, very different.
No Malfunctions, more precise aim, more ammo very little weight.
Gun's are GREAT for Zombies as well :)
THAT SHOT AT 3:30! I feel like cameramen are always underappreciated.
Mythbusters uses the metric system? What utopia is this?
scientists use metric. period. If they want to explain something to the average American, they may convert afterwards though.
Scientist use SI, not metric. There is a difference.
Wyvern Liberatus Not quite. The liter, for example is not an SI unit, but it is a metric unit, and is thus in use by scientists everywhere.
Why not combine an axe with a gun ya know like the vampire Abraham Lincoln movie where Abraham Lincoln had that musket axe
Shotgun ax from aos
Lesson: A neanderthal with an axe would probably survive longer than your average american student in a zombie invasion
Gamers: Allow us to introduce ourselves
Ok, so we should arm all of the student then..
Well yeah neantherhals are buff
wouldn't the axe get stuck in like their skull and you would have to yank it out and they attack while you're doing it
But if we take it one step forward you need to get the axe out fron the "zombies" head and you loose power
this is why we need high cap mags
Lesson of the challenge. Don't box yourself in. Then you never have to deal with fighting hundreds of zombies in the first place.
This is too flawed of an experiment and too small of a sample size to be conclusive. Many variables are not accounted for. For example how physically fit you are will affect how well you are able to avoid zombies. How much skill and experience with guns or axes you have is also a factor. How much the axe weighs and how Sharp it is yet another factor. You should have at the very least run the test multiple times with different people and accounted for axe weight.
They also used a wood axe, which is dumb. Wood axes are not weapons. War axes are light and quick, with thin blades less likely to get stuck in flesh or bone.
Let’s just use both
@Primordial that's not the point. The point is that the distinction between tools and weapons is important. A purpose-built weapon will generally be a better choice for this job.
And this is assuming all of the zombies are walkers. If they were sprinting he would have died in mere seconds
To everyone saying this test sucked because the axe would get stuck, THERES NO WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT WITHOUT MURDERING VOLUNTEERS
Also they left out the chainsaw part
Whats a real test without some dying people
Who else is here to brush up on apocalypse skills during Coronavirus 😂
The thing nobody realised Adam's axe is lighter then a real axe wich means that he would tire faster
dam this idea of zombie arena can be use for bets lol and fun
Having to pull the axe out of each zombie as well....
yeh blunt weapon is the way to go
+ozza lowes id take a spear any day.
But these are supposed to be zombies, which means you need to breach the skull. That would be pretty hard to do with a piercing weapon.
good point
To be real though, they were using paintball guns which jam like hell.
A real gun would be a bit more reliable (AK or AR etc).
Also since zombies are half decomposed, the bullets could penetrate further through a crowd of targets taking out or disabling a few more zombies. Paintballs break on impact so, no deep penetration there.
I'm still pretty sure gun>axe. Besides, what if the axe gets stuck or you miss?
Exactly. Although you likely wouldn't be facing multiple hundred zombies at once, unless you live in a highly populated area (big cities, etc.)
+Ryan Hartman and to point that is a shotgun with a spread
Why'd you stop uploading I used to watch your vids
***** Computer and gmod problems.
Built a new PC now so I should be getting started again soon.
If you miss with an axe you can 'follow up' or spin it so it stays in continual motion thus costing less energy. this is a mace technique and would work well if you use the back of the axe.
I’d like to point out that one, in the first axe test against a ballistics head, the axe broke the skull and bounced out, so probably not gonna get stuck very often at all, and also, if Jamie only had to accelerate the axe until hit, instead of accelerate to kill speed, and then slow down so he doesn’t hit the volunteer, he would have around twice as many kills
And you have to think about the noise it would make that would attract more zombies
You definitely want an axe. You can do more with it, like cut through doors, cut down trees, etc. It just has more utility, for things besides killing. Also it has less mechanical parts thus less prone to break.
In a zombie apocalypse, guns should be use to defend against other humans, not zombies.
If you want infected blood all over you - yes an axe is perfect to turn yourself into a zombie.
4:10 he shot the guy in green but the guy never went down (cheater)
Clearly a Trump voter
Michael Farrell I'm dead over your comment I'm literally dying of laughter
I'll call you an ambulance
he didn't there's no ball flying out of the gun
he missed
A comically large axe seems impractical and they didn’t take into account the energy and time to pull the axe from the skull
Yeah
A skull is quite thin, I doubt it would get stuck that often. Like when he hit the model skull in the beginning it didn't get stuck
id go for the neck honestly instead of the skull,easier to decapitate or at least damage the spinal cord enough to cause imobility.in a survival situation though your not going for the most kills just whatever is in your way so i think a good ole baseball bat would be better then both in most situations good enough to knock zombies out of your way and wont get stuck.
Would it matter if Adam changed the direction of the ax swing? Instead of all overheads, what if he did a horizontal swipe or and upward strike? Would that affect his fatigue?
When you got the gang all you need is an AR-15 with 4 full mags for everyone. 1 bullet can kill a zombie. 30 bullets per mag x4 = 120 bullets. 120x4=480 zombies killed. You can most of the time fit an extra bullet into every mag, bringing our total to 496 killed zombies. Worst case scenario a zombie needs 4 bullets to kill. We can still kill 124 zombies. Plus grenades. A regular fragmentation grenade has a lethal blast area of 15m. That brings our kill-area to 706 square meters. Let's say we can fit 4 zombies in a square meter. That means with a high zombie density we can, in the best possible scenario, kill 2800 zombies without accounting for the fact that the blast and shrapnel will get drastically slowed down by the zombies. Even if we only had a 1.5m blast area we could still kill at least 28 zombies. 10 grenades = 280 zombies. 280x4=1120 dead zombies.
That means if you had a four-man team, each armed with 10 grenades, an AR-15 and 4 mags you could kill 1616 zombies.
And people still try and tell me the military would fail. Have you forgot they have nukes? A single nuke with the power of 1Mt would severely burn zombies within a radius of 11km. Let's say zombies would be within our density of 4 zombies/square meter. A single 1Mt nuke has a blast area of 380,132,711 square meters. Times 4. That means with a 1Mt nuke we would be able to kill up to 1 billion 520 million 530 thousand 844 zombies. That's 1/5 of the entire worlds population. Zombies would be the single easiest apocalypse to survive. Lure them all to a single location over the course of a few weeks and totally obliterate them all instantaneously.
@Meth Monkey official Dang... If only an apocalypse occurred that ended the lives of the people carrying said grenades in this scenario...
I like your math my friend, This was my own math replying to someone earlier!
#1. Suppressors are more common now than ever, and only require a $200 tax stamp
#2. Each AR platform will carry between 30-120 rounds per magazine reliably. If using the ......NATO standard 55 grain XM193 ammo since there are literally billions of these rounds ......available, a magazine of 120 rounds would less than a 1 lb or only .9428571 lbs. Reloads ......are swift as well
#3. At least one pistol should also be carried. A good option would be a Glock which can
.......reliably carry 19 rounds of 124 grain 9mm. Each magazine would weigh an awful heavy
0.3365714 lbs.
#4 This means that with 1.6159999 pounds worth of ammunition you have 158 bullets before ......having to reload. Assuming you have no more ammo. If ammo is carried, each gun is ......reloaded and chambered in under a second and averaged between 6000-15000 rounds ......before malfunctions in military testing during adverse conditions. A Glock is expected to ......have a service live of 12000-40000 before any breakage, and have been known to go much .....longer.
#5.If any police or military were killed, or your average citizen, their weapon would be chamber .....in these calibers.
6.Iron sights are the way of the past, with a reticle on a rifle, even someone without training will never miss a shot within 15 yards. Even on small targets.
7.Recoil- According to the American rifle Association,"A Rem 55-gr. bullet and 7 lb. rifle: Recoil Energy: 3.7 ft. lbs." so 3 and a half lbs of recoil being nudged into your shoulder and with a pistol,"(9x19 124 grain ammunition) 2.0lb pistol=4.4lbs of recoil" directed into your palm.
Summary, Jaime took out as many as he did with 3 pump actions, and a pistol, if he had 156 rounds on tap before reloading, which would simulate two of the most commonly owned guns in America the result would have been very, very different.
No Malfunctions, more precise aim, more ammo very little weight.
I wish you the best, have a great day :)
What if the axe gets stuck in someone's head???
They forgot that blood and gore will splash on the axe handle and their hands which will make it slippery especially if they have to adjust the position of their hands from time to time. Plus the axe can sometimes lodge themselves on the target thereby lowering the attack speed
2:32 Oh, well their goes a mythbuster fan. 💀
Should have used his killstreak while he had the chance
When it comes to the axe, I understand it's probably not the weight of a real one but Adam having to stop the axe on every swing instead of letting the momentum transfer to the zombies head seems like it would make him fatigue quicker
+sk84life311 Maybe but i think it probably fatigues him about as fast as having to bull the embedded axe from the skull.
TheGame4Life Fair enough. I didn't think about that lol
sk84life311 Both with guns and axes there are so many factors that it's impossible to know everything about how they will perform. Plus zombies don't exist so that only makes it harder.
I am glad you explained that because that was an obvious error in the experiment. I didn't feel like doing that much typing.
+N2 The Mystic and if he was realy swinging a sharp war axe with adrenaline in his veins(which is the hardest part of this situation to replicate.) he would be taking out multiple assailants per swing. well...maybe not adam, but a stout old school man could.
But let's say that someone received training on a particular firearm for several years, wouldn't their muscle memory be able to reduce the time a reload or malfunction took? Especially if they have practiced those actions in other high stress situations 🤔🤔🤔
Nobody:
Myth busters: “ax” vs gun
This test was a bit flawed and unrealistic. But I appreciate everyone's efforts and hard work
@@Lame_Liam The foam axe was extra large to make it about the same weight as the real axe. Also, you forgot the part where we're expecting anything realistic when talking about zombies.
I think both weapons are just situational. As someone who actually uses and tests both weapons for work I can definitely see both weapons going wrong in a bad situation like this. (Like guns get dirty and jam sometimes and wooden axes can get worn and the metal part can straight up just come off completely. ) so I think having something like a glock alongside something like a hatchet would be a smart setup.
What bull..... the problem of course was two fold and the most glaring was Adam was credited with never missing unlike his 1-3 times he failed during testing. So at best he'd might get 2-3 kills while swinging and the test was flawed because the force would have to be greater on a shorter blow parallel at head height than the one hitting downward at or below chest level. For Jaime it was firing at same distance Adam was swinging and had he gone closer he could of popped the zombies just before clearing the gate one by one plus a double kill with a single bullet hitting a pair nicely lined up like bowling pins. After the fence opened a bit of a retreat was in order since the distance meant reloading would have an advantage and he didn't fire with both hands that would increase the rate of fire. By the way a pair of 3LB hand sledges would be better if only cracking the skull was required and a blow to the side or forehead can be done with two arms like beating on a set of drums......:)
Fun fact: your body obsorbs moisture so if you get zombie blood on you, the blood will get into your system and you will turn
Everyone saying axe or sword or chainsaw don't think about that - Infected zombie blood will get all over survivors using slicing weapons.
The kind of gun you want in a zombie apocalypse would ideally be a pintle mounted heavy machine gun. It takes the difficulty out of mowing down hoardes of undead.
how would you get that or do you even have that?
No you would want a .22lr semi auto plinker. Reason being .22 is easy to obtain and light. You can also easily stockpile them in preparation for an apocalypse scenario.
You would have to drag around thousands of bullets everywhere you travel... Unless you plan on living in a gun manufacturing plant... Those bullets would eventually run out. The zombie apocalypse scenario would take decades to return to normal civilization.
They didnt really need this, as a zombie researcher. Zombie heads are soft, as you’ve seen in the Walking Dead, the bones break easily, which means the skull is decomposing. The weight of the axe could just easily kill them. So basically they didnt really need this. If the skull is still hard, go for the temple bone. Thats where the weakest part of the skull is.
i see that he is not hitting them
Let's remember Adam isn't a amazing athletic person to keep going and Jamie isn't a Mark's Man. So nether will do great.
1:28 basically they made a stat track axe 😂
Force=mass x acceleration. they used the mass of the real axe and the force to calculate the acceleration, but then changed the mass of the object to the foam axe which would therefore require higher acceleration. Test is faulty
First Infinity exactly
Well I mean the test is faulty for a numerous amount of reasons.... Semi auto weapons for one hundreds of round per minute with range axe has to be close but is also silent. In a real scenario a axe or any kind of sharp melee weapon would be better less noise = less attention also no need for ammunition although a gun would be beneficial In a horde situation where you only option is to kill everyone of them
1:00, look at the head after it got hit. It wobbled like it was trying to say "NO".....
👽👾💀
Katana is much better for melee since its alot lighter in my opinion.
What happens if the axe gets stuck in the zombies head?
Try doing a collab with zgb (zombie go boom)
A big flaw that I saw was that the airsoft shotgun was firing one pellet and not an entire shell, this will definitely decrease the chances of survival, you would likely be using buckshot or some kind of flechette round made from metal scrap, bird shot and slugs would likely be a last ditch effort, I feel that if the airsoft gun was a bit more realistic to a real shotgun that Jamie would have almost no problem dealing with the walkers.
Axe gets stuck as some people already pointed out ALSO THAT FOAM ACE HEAD MIGHT BE A LITTLE LIGHTER THAN A STEEL AXE HEAD! a missed axe strike really takes its toll on your stamina and after several swings would probably knock you off balance
Use a gun until it jams or runs out of ammo, have an axe as a back up for when that happens, or there's just a few, and doing so will quietly dispatch them without drawing more. There you go nerds, question answered. Also the best gun is the one that meets these qualifications the best. 1. you have it in your hands and know how to use it, (a gun you don't have or can't use is useless.) 2. It has ammo (a gun without ammo is just an expensive club.) 3. The gun that jams the least you don't want to be clearing a jam when you need your gun working.
I have to imagine the weight of an actual axe in that design would be much heavier and tire him out faster. this one, aside form the handle, was made of foam. I could be wrong about the weight though, anyone know if they added weights to it to simulate the feel of a real axe? If not then I call b.s. on their findings. He'd have been tired out quicker and taken down.
My favorite, versatile, zombie weapon would have to be a crowbar. the titanium one weighs less then 2 pounds, is strong and the design is made so it doesn't bend/warp easy. The rounded end can smash skulls, or if you are in tight quarters turn is around and use in a thrusting motion to stab it in the face/eyes to get the brain. It can also be used to pry open doors and boxes. The weight also leads to less fatigue.
Yea Knifes are better but your too close which is in risk of getting bitten and also you have to think about your axe or knife getting stuck in the victem
SpooderMan who said knife?
They also didnt take into account the force involved for taking out the axe. Also, blood with pathogenic properties could also "turn" you. It really depends on the situation and whether or not the zombies can hear and have the mental capacity to follow sound. Also depends on your supply of weapons, your build and your training with specific weapons or martial arts.
Thats what i was thinking with the force to take out the axe. well depends on what zombies as well, will they be fast, will only bites or physical contact infect you or others
Ax or axe? Lol nice title
Basic casiB dam dude thought I had hair on my phone 🤣
Same😂 I tried to wipe it off
Ax and axe are both acceptable spellings
IRL gun is better. They should have had Jamie use airsoft pistols instead for greater round count like real pistols. And being limited to pistols and shotguns kinda sucks, and if it had been an airsoft shotgun with a stock, Jamie could have started out and stayed much further back. And IRL you wouldnt care about stepping on the bodies, so that complicates things. And they should have had given Adam an axe with a much smaller, realistic sized head to it with a force sensor where he should have to hit the zombies in the head with that force instead of just reaching the acceleration (of course the volunteers would have motorcycle helmets on or something)
I still see a gun as a a better option, when your gun needs reloading, you won't be fatigued from shooting and you will be able to move away and reload. Axe might not need a reload but when your swings weaken, you won't be running too far either.
Carrying a combo of each is best though.
just use a negev
If you could acctualy lift it you have a mobile zombie lawnmower
Jamie needs one of those infinity round magazine clips that they banned in California.
Fuck the Axe vs Gun debate.
I'm using my Lightsaber.
"You lose. I win. Bye. Bye."
And what's with a machine gun? And more space?
And a spear?
The problem is he was using the axe wrong. You use the weight of the axe and swings it in arches, not stopping it. Now he had to first accelerate it, then halt it using force to do that, thus increasing the muscle work. Of course he gets tired. I guess he never have chopped wood. With the right technique you can go on for a long time. Sorry for my bad English, I hope you get what I try to explain!
he can't exactly whack people in the head full force
I wonder if you could swing the axe in an arc.
Could waste some energy sure, but maybe it could take out multiple in one go?
This was done terribly. Jamie is SHOOTING THE PISTOL WITH HIS MIDDLE FINGER