Finally a video that cuts through the BS and explains what you need to know about the rods and how to make the right choice for you. Thank you very much.
The Temple Reef neutral guide set up actually works surprisingly well. I thought it was gimmicky sounding at first but it makes a noticeable difference.
Really like your commentary on SPJ. Your presentation is professional and detail oriented. I learn a lot from the video. I recently purchased 2 SOJ rods, Okuma Hawaiian and Goofish rods. Hope it is a good start.
Thank you Sir, very well explained, I am looking at this method now (now only) and will purchase soon. When buying it is important to go as high rice as you can for the simple reason that the angler needs to be confident that the odds are on his side and not on the fish side. Confidence is key, right to the last drop or cast, being confident helps the angler being more focus on how he does. Thanks
My 1st slow pitch came from you have a nice long conversation with you time was not an issue you guided me through the same material in this video , the personal touch that's why I rock with JONNY JIGS hands on straight forward 💯the 💣💥🦈in the cooler real talk EAST COAST JIGGERS
Just watched and subscribed ! Slow pitch jigging has really taken off here in New Zealand over the last couple of years. I really loved the way you have explained the different styles of rods. Thank you
I bought a harrier ML 80g. I use it for regular jigs like goofy jigs, bucktail jigs, and shrimp jigs in 10-20ft of water. So much fun highly recommend.
Having the rod correctly built on spline is critical wherever the guides are placed... Radial torque will wear you out trying to keep the reel upright with conventional setup. ?Why is this NOT brought up about rods?
Yes it is very important. Slow pitch rods use spiral (acid) wrap guides to prevent rod breakage due to line wrapping around a guide during pitch. In my experience spiral wrap is more stable. The problem is the guides are fragile and contact with the rail or fish swimming under the boat is worse with spiral guides.
Jigging rod is the present for most countries like japan, Korea, and australia, but soon the future of American fishing. Great video! Btw, I’ve seen rods that are rated as light jigging, multi jigging, etc…
Thank you for this awesome video. Especially one of the best ever for beginners like me. You should think about adding subtitles in different languages. For Turkish I can help. Just let me know :)
Excellent video, i sell tackle in New Zealand, we sell ocea jiggers, maxell, and saltigas. Heavy rods wont move a lighter jig properly, you are quite right
so I went on your website and purchase an Elite rod. I will be fishing outside Miami and figured 250g will be sufficient in max 250' of water. I normally drift so current do not affect my line too much and if wind against current I drop a floating anchor to limit the water speed, I have been flat jigging the wrecks with 150g in 150 feet and did not feel I needed more, if 150g not enough I turn to something else. For now it will be rigged (please don't laugh) with a daiwa sealine 30 with upgraded carbon drag washers and power handle. If I like it I will invest more, I it doesn't work I blame the equipment and invest more haha...
Thanks so much for this breakdown! I'm a fly fisherman, but I'm now switching gears and getting into vertical jigging. Specifically, I'm targeting lake trout and Salmon in 50 to 150 feet of water. Jigs range from 1 oz to 2 oz (less than 100 grams). I think the application of slow pitching will crossover and be successful. As a fly angler, I am very familiar with acceleration of the rod in order to load the blank and, in turn, unload stored energy into the fly line. In slow pitch jigging, does the angler use the mass of the jig and resistance of the water to load the rod with energy by accelerating the rod upward? Once the rod motion is stopped, stored energy is transfered into the jig, causing the jig to be pitched or flung through the water. The ensuing free fall combined with jig characteristics entails even more voodoo! Am I correctly understanding slow pitch? In fly casting, matching the line's weight to to the rod blank is paramount. As I browse through slow pitch rods, I'm not finding anything rated for less than 100 grams. Some have suggested I just use a stout, fast action rod rated just below the jig weight I'm using. This would allow the rod to seemingly load under the weight of the jig, but I doubt that any old rod's ability to unload and unflex is adequate to pitch the jig. To me, the construction properties of a slow pitch rod blank are critical and more than a marketing scheme (as many tout on forums). I'm just unsure as to how to match a rod blank to the relatively light jigs I'm using 🤔
Matthew, You are spot on for you description on how SPJ works. The rod is essentially a tool for working the jig. Granted is can be used to some extent to fight the fish it is better to use the reel. Attached you will find a link for rods in the gram rating you are looking for. Johnny Rods johnnyjigs.com/collections/rods/Light-Jigging Jigs johnnyjigs.com/collections/light-slow-pitch-jigging
@@JohnnyJigsTV oh snap! The mytho light seems like the perfect option 👍 Does the lack of backbone/spine in these ultra light rods necessitate a really good drag system to fight the fish? Do you recommend any particular reels (spinning). I've been eying the Shimano Stradic and Abu Garcia Revo Rocket for their price point and line retrieval speed. I'm just not sure how a 20 lb v. 11 lb mx drag translates to fish fighting ability Thanks for your time
To be clear the bend in the rod isn’t assisting in fighting the fish? When you say you’re pointing the rod down you’re not letting it bend as much? Had heard that the backbone of the rod was important. If not for fighting the fish what is the significance of the strong backbone on the slow pitch jigging rod?
Michael, That is a great question. The back bone on a SPJ rod will help with three things. One being it will allow for a punchier action on the jig and faster unload and the second is fighting the fish. FIGHTING THE FISH? Yes, you can use some SPJ rods to fight the fish using proper technique. We try not to go over parallel to water as a general rule of thumb. In the range from pointing down to the water and lifting parallel to the ocean the back bone in the rod will do the heavy work. The soft tip of the rod is definitely not designed to fight the fish but the butt section will in some cases. Once the fish is off the bottom I will soften my drag, stop pumping, and point my tip toward the fish and fight it with my reel only. Lastly hook set. Because the tip is so soft the back bone or but section of the rod will play a big role in punching the hook in past the barb. Hope I answered your questions. Johnny
I saw some reels got destroyed fighting fish with reel instead of rod We call it forced cranking , even oj bronze gear got chewed up , so I prefer the pump and reel method
Just bought a Penn Lever Drag 25N. looking for advise on a slow pitch rod for SoCal Yellow Tail, Yellow fin and smaller Blue fin. 200-300 gram lures ? IDK yet. Fishing form my own boat. Thanks!! Good channel!!
Hey Nats, Thank you. There is so many options available to you. I would suggest calling the shop. We can walk you through those options and help you make the correct decision. 954-889-4915
Could you cover the possibility of using this technique in fresh water. Also in land based applications such as from Pierson and south Florida Bridges and Florida key Bridges.
Exactly! The rod is the lever that aids your drag system on your reel. Master your skills with drag settings will tire the fish more and less chance of losing it when it's time to get it in the boat
Hey Sean, It is very easy to break a slow pitch rod if you high stick or allow the blank to touch hard surfaces while fighting the fish. The rod is a tool for imparting a action on the jig NOT fighting the fish. So my answer is YES if you use a proper fighting technique (Fight the fish with the reel) you can catch a large tuna without breaking the rod.
So for a primarily kayak fishermen with the occasional boat trip. Hows a spinning 6'3 20-50 braid rating , 1.5oz to 7oz /45g to 210g set up. I already have a vertical rod for 135 to 270 but its 6ft and gets wonky sometimes if the drag is wrong. Almost got flipped.
Are there any products out there that can protect the bare part of the blank when the rod is riding in the rod holder? It scares me to think about bruising the blank as it bounces around in the holder. Enjoy your videos. I hope to see your shop one of these days.
the full solid rods are coming very popular these days , i know they're not knew but there is some demand in the market. Can you explain their advantages and when should we prefer them?
Do you think there is a noticeable difference on whether the eye’s roll right or left in actual fighting the fish? I’ve heard eyes should roll left for right hand. Questioning if you can feel the rod pull one way or another?
Hey johnny can you recommend a slow pich rod for the American patriot pully ridge for that 800ft to 1000ft part of the trip that flips heavier jiggs well that would really help who knows you might be on that trip when I go thanks.
I would recommend an Ocean Legacy Elementus deep. Also you should call the shop. JJ team has been on many of those trips and would be happy to share some insights.
Very very informative, I got a question in regards to slow pitch rods. Is it possible to fish at a faster pace with longer knife jigs? Planning for my next jigging trip, aside from bottom species we do come across some Yellowtail Amberjacks which seems to take a liking to longer jigs fished faster on my last outing. Thought if it could work I'd save the space of taking an extra setup Many thanks
We use our SPJ rods for slow and fast action often. Many of the rods will have a rating for both slow pitch and high speed. Generally, high speed will be a lesser gram rating.
Awesome video. New to slow pitch and I’ve been using my curado 300ej but purchasing a jigging combo. What are your thoughts of a Goofish Blue 6’6” 18kg rod, Tsunami Forged 8, 30 lb braid as a starter set up?
Do you think the pro jigger 7 foot rod is better to get or the temple reef levitate is better?cause I don’t know if it’s just more expensive because it’s newer,and I’ll be using 130-200 gram jigs
This is so informative. Best slow pitch guide to buying a rod ever. I have a question tho. Can you use a vertical pitch rod to do slow pitch jigging? I know the road action is different but will it work? I have a GooFish Vertical Jigging Rod rated for up to 500gr max jigs and wondering if it will work for slow pitch jigs 200 - 300 gr. Thank you in advance for your answer.
It will be a fast action and the rod won’t do much loading but, you can flip and flutter a jig essentially on any rod - my advice is to give a try and get to know how that rod and any rod might load and unload under jig weight doing slow pitch I am inclined to think that may be the heavy action blue goofish SPJ rod however
No, It is Green. I know the Blue and pink ones are for slow pitch. The green one I have is for vertical jigging, that why I wanted to know if it will work.
@@sunilramnath8972 Gotcha, yes it will work but as said before it will naturally have a faster action due to being a shorter and stouter blank. As long as you’re conscientious of it’s faster action then you can slow your technique down and impart a similar flutter that you’d get from a slow pitch rod. The draw back is that you’ll be working against the rod more than you’ll be working with it.
Hi Johnny. Just getting into SPJ. I just recently bought an Ocea Jigger 1500HG to use for BSB. Can the new Trevala B jigging rod be used for SPG with this reel? Or am I better off with a true slow pitch jigging rod like a Talavera Slow J rod? Thanks for any input.
Hi Anthony, thanks for reaching out. Any rod will work for you, but you will get a better action and movement on the jig with a true slow pitch rod. It's kinda like the old saying, the right tool for the job. I would highly recommend calling the JJ shop. Talk to Eddie, Pete, or Adam. These guys are super knowledgeable about SPJ and the gear......Johnny
I wonder why some youtubers say weight of jigs depend on the depth? How does physics work on that? I am from North East in range of 70 to 120 feet of water with occasional high current.
It depends on depth and current, the deeper the water the stronger the current and the longer it takes the jig to fall to bottom so if it's light the current will take it further and it won't be vertical any more and may not reach ground if too light
I was hoping you guys could help me out here. I'm going on a trip up to Gloucester, MA in the late spring for Cod, Pollock and Haddock. I think we'll be between 150'-250'. I had planned on SPJ but my problem is, which power rod to bring. I have two in mind. 100g-400g on the lower end, and 120-650g on the high end. I'll probably be using 220's mostly as they hit pretty good the last time I fished up there. What do you guys think?
Curtis, I think you are correct in your selection. I would suggest giving us a call at the shop. My staff or I would be happy to spend time with you talking about set ups. I954-889-4915 Johnny
You mentioned that its not the rod rather the reel. If I have a 4 pc medium power rod with 30 lb test capacity If I have a good reel it can land a good size 20 to 30 lb fish? Im just curious im a beginner. Thanks
Johnny what are your thoughts on the Shimano talavera type slow jig rod? Have you had feedback on it? Thinking on getting the 6-6 M rated up to 250g jigs. 119$ and want to keep it simple for starting SPJ. Reel will be torium 14 with 30lb j braid. Other rods im considering is the OTI pitch black slow pitch, the new mustad slow pitch rod or the Centaur Anglers Choice Constellation Slow jiggind rod, or the Oceans legacy slow element. What in your opinion is the best one for the price, best quality? Dont want to spend over 200$ but can do a little over. Fishing 250 feet max for Snapper,grouper,triggers etc
Regarding fighting the fish with the reel, how do you fight the fish without pumping when it comes to grouper and bottom feeders that can cut your line in coral please?
You can pump as high as level to the ocean with the rod upon strike. We generally fight the fish "grouper" hard initially, then back off and only use the reel. Once it is off the bottom, there is no need for pumping, just reeling.
this might be a stupid question but is it necessary to use a jigging rod for a slow-pitch jig? would the jig still flutter decently with a regular rod?
Not a stupid question at all. You can use any rod, but what you get from a quality slow pitch rod is a nice slow unload that looks as if the jig is fighting to swim "more realistic movements". Also the rods are light weight. This is a very active style of fishing so weight is important and the more you can shave the longer you can jig. It's equivalent to putting cork in a baseball bat. You will achieve better movements have more sensitivity and less fatigue giving you an advantage. It's the right tool for the job.
Jig star and Temple Reef have the neutral guide system. Check out our rod section at Johnnyjigs.com or give us a call at the shop. We can give you a run down of all the rods available.
hi i have just bought a spinal jigging rod cjf200g 56.697913 . I can't seem to find much info on it and nobody here in the uk seem to know of them. just wondered if you could help. are they any good. price range, ect thanks
I wanna know how and why rods are made the way they are. They all brag about toray carbon. It’s just 30% prepreg carbon cloth on a mandrel. It’s all about the layup, length and taper. Alot of the cheaper rods are the same thing as the expensive rods but only cheaper. Wouldnt be surprised if there’s a manufacturer in china that makes multiple rod brands.
Finally a video that cuts through the BS and explains what you need to know about the rods and how to make the right choice for you. Thank you very much.
The Temple Reef neutral guide set up actually works surprisingly well. I thought it was gimmicky sounding at first but it makes a noticeable difference.
We filmed reeling one up with out level lining to our surprise as well it definitely helps.
ThAT WAS REALLY GOOD MAN, LEARNED MORE ABOUT JIGGING TODAY THAN EVER BEFORE! SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS, MY KEYBOARD IS STUFFED.
Thanks Brent
This video was probably the best, comprehensive video on slow pitch jigging ive seen . Great job!
Thank you!!! 🤙🤙🤙
Really like your commentary on SPJ. Your presentation is professional and detail oriented. I learn a lot from the video. I recently purchased 2 SOJ rods, Okuma Hawaiian and Goofish rods. Hope it is a good start.
Thank you Sir, very well explained, I am looking at this method now (now only) and will purchase soon. When buying it is important to go as high rice as you can for the simple reason that the angler needs to be confident that the odds are on his side and not on the fish side. Confidence is key, right to the last drop or cast, being confident helps the angler being more focus on how he does. Thanks
GOOD info Johnny Jig's !!!
Copied all said. Thanks...
My 1st slow pitch came from you have a nice long conversation with you time was not an issue you guided me through the same material in this video , the personal touch that's why I rock with JONNY JIGS hands on straight forward 💯the 💣💥🦈in the cooler real talk EAST COAST JIGGERS
Thanks Tobias..
Just watched and subscribed ! Slow pitch jigging has really taken off here in New Zealand over the last couple of years. I really loved the way you have explained the different styles of rods.
Thank you
I bought a harrier ML 80g. I use it for regular jigs like goofy jigs, bucktail jigs, and shrimp jigs in 10-20ft of water. So much fun highly recommend.
Hell yeah Johnny! I'm in the intro 😊 you da man.
Ha ha yeah bro🤙🤙
Great video!!!💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 and the store looks amazing!!!!
Great info man but it looks like we all only have one option,the other two will not work with rodholders..who doesnt use a rodholder??😂
beach jiggers…😅
Thanks so much for helping me pick out that Johnny Jigs Pro Jigger. I slayed some grouper over the weekend. Can't wait to get back to the shop!
You are very welcome Chris..Would love to see some pics!!
My favorite jigging rod is an 8 ft graphite Okuma salmon fishing rod. I been using it for years on rockfish and YT both. It’s super light.
Fishing off a "cattle boat" the guides on top of rod is a benefit if fish runs under boat. Spiral wrap helps keep reel level when fighting fish.
Having the rod correctly built on spline is critical wherever the guides are placed... Radial torque will wear you out trying to keep the reel upright with conventional setup. ?Why is this NOT brought up about rods?
Yes it is very important. Slow pitch rods use spiral (acid) wrap guides to prevent rod breakage due to line wrapping around a guide during pitch. In my experience spiral wrap is more stable. The problem is the guides are fragile and contact with the rail or fish swimming under the boat is worse with spiral guides.
Awesome video! Can't wait to hear the follow up on the slow pitch tournament!
Almost done editing. 👍👍
Awesome tips! Just starting to slow jig and loving it. This helps big time.
Awesome Kembo
Jigging rod is the present for most countries like japan, Korea, and australia, but soon the future of American fishing. Great video! Btw, I’ve seen rods that are rated as light jigging, multi jigging, etc…
Thank you for this awesome video. Especially one of the best ever for beginners like me. You should think about adding subtitles in different languages. For Turkish I can help. Just let me know :)
Well explained Johnny thanks. Love the content you and Chris provide.
Thanks Rob..
Excellent video, i sell tackle in New Zealand, we sell ocea jiggers, maxell, and saltigas. Heavy rods wont move a lighter jig properly, you are quite right
Very informative! Im still new to fishing and this helped me alot in buying my rod. Thanks!
This video is very educational. Thank you for sharing your knowledge (and saving me some $$$).
so I went on your website and purchase an Elite rod. I will be fishing outside Miami and figured 250g will be sufficient in max 250' of water. I normally drift so current do not affect my line too much and if wind against current I drop a floating anchor to limit the water speed, I have been flat jigging the wrecks with 150g in 150 feet and did not feel I needed more, if 150g not enough I turn to something else. For now it will be rigged (please don't laugh) with a daiwa sealine 30 with upgraded carbon drag washers and power handle. If I like it I will invest more, I it doesn't work I blame the equipment and invest more haha...
Awesome Denis...The Elite is a great starter rod. Tight lines
Great info thanks
From Perth Western Australia
Outstanding explanation, congrats!!!
Thank you!
Great explanation of the options for a rod. Cheers rom the UK.,
Thank you for this vid!
Absolutely stellar breakdown on the technique, gear, etc.
Super useful video for new jigging guy like me. 👍
Thank you very much it was a great video explains very well thank you
You got it...Michael 🤙
You are the man! Thanks for the great explanation
Thanks Ted!!
Great video, learned a lot
Thanks Professor Mike
Great info Johnny! I have your pro jigger3 and i love it. I recommend getting johnnyjigs projigger two or three.
Great video , thats answered a lot of questions for a beginner , Cheers Mate
I could use a broom handle and catch fish, but I use the JJ Pro Jigger.
🤣🤣😂😂
Excellent 👌, I hope to make some specific jigging rods reviews on my channel as soon as I finish a more general series of fishing rods videos.
Thanks so much for this breakdown!
I'm a fly fisherman, but I'm now switching gears and getting into vertical jigging. Specifically, I'm targeting lake trout and Salmon in 50 to 150 feet of water. Jigs range from 1 oz to 2 oz (less than 100 grams). I think the application of slow pitching will crossover and be successful.
As a fly angler, I am very familiar with acceleration of the rod in order to load the blank and, in turn, unload stored energy into the fly line. In slow pitch jigging, does the angler use the mass of the jig and resistance of the water to load the rod with energy by accelerating the rod upward? Once the rod motion is stopped, stored energy is transfered into the jig, causing the jig to be pitched or flung through the water. The ensuing free fall combined with jig characteristics entails even more voodoo! Am I correctly understanding slow pitch?
In fly casting, matching the line's weight to to the rod blank is paramount. As I browse through slow pitch rods, I'm not finding anything rated for less than 100 grams. Some have suggested I just use a stout, fast action rod rated just below the jig weight I'm using. This would allow the rod to seemingly load under the weight of the jig, but I doubt that any old rod's ability to unload and unflex is adequate to pitch the jig. To me, the construction properties of a slow pitch rod blank are critical and more than a marketing scheme (as many tout on forums).
I'm just unsure as to how to match a rod blank to the relatively light jigs I'm using 🤔
Matthew, You are spot on for you description on how SPJ works. The rod is essentially a tool for working the jig. Granted is can be used to some extent to fight the fish it is better to use the reel. Attached you will find a link for rods in the gram rating you are looking for.
Johnny
Rods
johnnyjigs.com/collections/rods/Light-Jigging
Jigs
johnnyjigs.com/collections/light-slow-pitch-jigging
@@JohnnyJigsTV oh snap! The mytho light seems like the perfect option 👍
Does the lack of backbone/spine in these ultra light rods necessitate a really good drag system to fight the fish? Do you recommend any particular reels (spinning). I've been eying the Shimano Stradic and Abu Garcia Revo Rocket for their price point and line retrieval speed. I'm just not sure how a 20 lb v. 11 lb mx drag translates to fish fighting ability
Thanks for your time
All three of mine slow pitch rods are spiral wrap and I love the way to work
They work lol,jig on!
Me too!...
Good information Thanks
best explanation ever
Thank you.. @drevil4454
Thanks very useful advice
Really informative thanks.
Excellent video thank you very much
Thanks George
Awesome video.
Thanks BK
To be clear the bend in the rod isn’t assisting in fighting the fish? When you say you’re pointing the rod down you’re not letting it bend as much? Had heard that the backbone of the rod was important. If not for fighting the fish what is the significance of the strong backbone on the slow pitch jigging rod?
Michael, That is a great question. The back bone on a SPJ rod will help with three things. One being it will allow for a punchier action on the jig and faster unload and the second is fighting the fish. FIGHTING THE FISH? Yes, you can use some SPJ rods to fight the fish using proper technique. We try not to go over parallel to water as a general rule of thumb. In the range from pointing down to the water and lifting parallel to the ocean the back bone in the rod will do the heavy work. The soft tip of the rod is definitely not designed to fight the fish but the butt section will in some cases. Once the fish is off the bottom I will soften my drag, stop pumping, and point my tip toward the fish and fight it with my reel only. Lastly hook set. Because the tip is so soft the back bone or but section of the rod will play a big role in punching the hook in past the barb. Hope I answered your questions.
Johnny
Verry good
Thanks Dinasty
Should I use Mono or Fluro Leader for Slow and High Pitch Jigging ?
Hi Manuel, Flouro is going to be the best option because it sinks, has better abrasions resistance, and doesn't stretch as much.
@@JohnnyJigsTV I'm using 30 lbs Braid for Slow Pitch Jigging, how many pounds should be my Fluro Leader ?
40 or 50 will work for you.
I saw some reels got destroyed fighting fish with reel instead of rod
We call it forced cranking , even oj bronze gear got chewed up , so I prefer the pump and reel method
True to that! Never reel on a load fighting fish
Are any slow pitch rods heavy enough I can still high stick/flip the fish over the boat
Hi HW, The tips are to soft for that.
🦾Great Video !
Thanks Francisco
Just bought a Penn Lever Drag 25N. looking for advise on a slow pitch rod for SoCal Yellow Tail, Yellow fin and smaller Blue fin. 200-300 gram lures ? IDK yet. Fishing form my own boat. Thanks!! Good channel!!
Hey Nats, Thank you. There is so many options available to you. I would suggest calling the shop. We can walk you through those options and help you make the correct decision. 954-889-4915
Could you cover the possibility of using this technique in fresh water. Also in land based applications such as from Pierson and south Florida Bridges and Florida key Bridges.
We are working on that
Exactly! The rod is the lever that aids your drag system on your reel.
Master your skills with drag settings will tire the fish more and less chance of losing it when it's time to get it in the boat
So if I'm slow pitch jigging for tuna and hook up on a cow, I shouldn't worry about the rod breaking?
Hey Sean, It is very easy to break a slow pitch rod if you high stick or allow the blank to touch hard surfaces while fighting the fish. The rod is a tool for imparting a action on the jig NOT fighting the fish. So my answer is YES if you use a proper fighting technique (Fight the fish with the reel) you can catch a large tuna without breaking the rod.
Thank you 👍👍
When are you guys gonna head up to northwest Florida and yank on some yellowfins!
Dude! I would love to!! Nothing planned as of yet.
@@JohnnyJigsTV need to try to maybe make something work for September ish. Will call you guys soon
Can a L2 be retro fitted to a neutral guide mount? Or would that affect the rod negatively? As always you provide the best SPJ information. 💯👏🏾
The new L2 actually have the neutral guide system.
@@JohnnyJigsTV I have the Benny edition from a couple of years back so it has straight eyes.
So for a primarily kayak fishermen with the occasional boat trip. Hows a spinning 6'3 20-50 braid rating , 1.5oz to 7oz /45g to 210g set up. I already have a vertical rod for 135 to 270 but its 6ft and gets wonky sometimes if the drag is wrong. Almost got flipped.
Are there any products out there that can protect the bare part of the blank when the rod is riding in the rod holder? It scares me to think about bruising the blank as it bounces around in the holder. Enjoy your videos. I hope to see your shop one of these days.
Yes there are plastic spiral wraps about $5.00
the full solid rods are coming very popular these days , i know they're not knew but there is some demand in the market. Can you explain their advantages and when should we prefer them?
They have higher blank strength rather than higher performing action
Nice video 👏👏👊
Thanks Capt
My missus didn’t buy it. She was gone after the first min. I’m struggling to get past 10 rods, but I need a jigging setup.
lol............Let give her a ring this is messed up.
Do you think there is a noticeable difference on whether the eye’s roll right or left in actual fighting the fish? I’ve heard eyes should roll left for right hand.
Questioning if you can feel the rod pull one way or another?
No difference...Total myth.
Hi Johnny, learned a lot. I was curious if the shimano flat fall butterfly jigs are considered to be slow pitch jigs? Thanks!
Yes they are...
Hey johnny can you recommend a slow pich rod for the American patriot pully ridge for that 800ft to 1000ft part of the trip that flips heavier jiggs well that would really help who knows you might be on that trip when I go thanks.
I would recommend an Ocean Legacy Elementus deep. Also you should call the shop. JJ team has been on many of those trips and would be happy to share some insights.
@JohnnyJigsTV thanks johnny iam calling the shop.
Very very informative, I got a question in regards to slow pitch rods. Is it possible to fish at a faster pace with longer knife jigs? Planning for my next jigging trip, aside from bottom species we do come across some Yellowtail Amberjacks which seems to take a liking to longer jigs fished faster on my last outing. Thought if it could work I'd save the space of taking an extra setup
Many thanks
We use our SPJ rods for slow and fast action often. Many of the rods will have a rating for both slow pitch and high speed. Generally, high speed will be a lesser gram rating.
@@JohnnyJigsTV thank you so much for the insight!! Highly appreciate it
Awesome video. New to slow pitch and I’ve been using my curado 300ej but purchasing a jigging combo. What are your thoughts of a Goofish Blue 6’6” 18kg rod, Tsunami Forged 8, 30 lb braid as a starter set up?
Such a good video!
Thank you!!
Do you think the pro jigger 7 foot rod is better to get or the temple reef levitate is better?cause I don’t know if it’s just more expensive because it’s newer,and I’ll be using 130-200 gram jigs
They are both amazing rods...I would suggest giving us a ring at the shop and we can walk you through the plus and minus of each.
You would rather have a slightly heavier rod than light to be able to insure you get the full extension after load?
This is so informative. Best slow pitch guide to buying a rod ever. I have a question tho. Can you use a vertical pitch rod to do slow pitch jigging? I know the road action is different but will it work? I have a GooFish Vertical Jigging Rod rated for up to 500gr max jigs and wondering if it will work for slow pitch jigs 200 - 300 gr. Thank you in advance for your answer.
Is the rod blue?
It will be a fast action and the rod won’t do much loading but, you can flip and flutter a jig essentially on any rod - my advice is to give a try and get to know how that rod and any rod might load and unload under jig weight doing slow pitch
I am inclined to think that may be the heavy action blue goofish SPJ rod however
No, It is Green. I know the Blue and pink ones are for slow pitch. The green one I have is for vertical jigging, that why I wanted to know if it will work.
@@sunilramnath8972 Gotcha, yes it will work but as said before it will naturally have a faster action due to being a shorter and stouter blank. As long as you’re conscientious of it’s faster action then you can slow your technique down and impart a similar flutter that you’d get from a slow pitch rod. The draw back is that you’ll be working against the rod more than you’ll be working with it.
Hi Johnny. Just getting into SPJ. I just recently bought an Ocea Jigger 1500HG to use for BSB. Can the new Trevala B jigging rod be used for SPG with this reel? Or am I better off with a true slow pitch jigging rod like a Talavera Slow J rod? Thanks for any input.
Hi Anthony, thanks for reaching out. Any rod will work for you, but you will get a better action and movement on the jig with a true slow pitch rod. It's kinda like the old saying, the right tool for the job. I would highly recommend calling the JJ shop. Talk to Eddie, Pete, or Adam. These guys are super knowledgeable about SPJ and the gear......Johnny
I wonder why some youtubers say weight of jigs depend on the depth? How does physics work on that?
I am from North East in range of 70 to 120 feet of water with occasional high current.
It depends on depth and current, the deeper the water the stronger the current and the longer it takes the jig to fall to bottom so if it's light the current will take it further and it won't be vertical any more and may not reach ground if too light
Would any reel go with the temple reef gravitate?if so what do you best recommend for that rod,I would be using the power 1
I would look at the Accurate valiant 500n spj or the 300
What do you think of the shimano slow J TTSJC66M 6FT 6 BRAD40 jig wt 250 grams. For Stripers fluke use up to 8 oz spro
Very informative.
How about length of the rod for deeper waters???
Shorter better
I was hoping you guys could help me out here. I'm going on a trip up to Gloucester, MA in the late spring for Cod, Pollock and Haddock. I think we'll be between 150'-250'. I had planned on SPJ but my problem is, which power rod to bring. I have two in mind. 100g-400g on the lower end, and 120-650g on the high end. I'll probably be using 220's mostly as they hit pretty good the last time I fished up there. What do you guys think?
Curtis, I think you are correct in your selection. I would suggest giving us a call at the shop. My staff or I would be happy to spend time with you talking about set ups. I954-889-4915 Johnny
So slightly heavier than you think you need so you can get the whip?
Which reel would I get for a power 1 or 2 rod?cause it says like 6h-8h-10h
For the Daiwa reels the larger the number the bigger the reel. They are all great SPJ reels.
Can I use a Penn Fathom Levelwind Reels for Slow Pitch Jigging ?
Realistically, you can use any reel to slow pitch jig, but we tend to lean more toward the narrow models 10, 15N, & 25N when it comes to Fathoms.
You mentioned that its not the rod rather the reel. If I have a 4 pc medium power rod with 30 lb test capacity If I have a good reel it can land a good size 20 to 30 lb fish? Im just curious im a beginner. Thanks
Johnny what are your thoughts on the Shimano talavera type slow jig rod? Have you had feedback on it? Thinking on getting the 6-6 M rated up to 250g jigs. 119$ and want to keep it simple for starting SPJ. Reel will be torium 14 with 30lb j braid. Other rods im considering is the OTI pitch black slow pitch, the new mustad slow pitch rod or the Centaur Anglers Choice Constellation Slow jiggind rod, or the Oceans legacy slow element.
What in your opinion is the best one for the price, best quality? Dont want to spend over 200$ but can do a little over. Fishing 250 feet max for Snapper,grouper,triggers etc
Very informative video. What are your thoughts about a 2 piece SPJ rod versus a 1 piece rod?
Nothing wrong with either. I fish both.
Can I buy a spinning jigging rod and use both spin and conventional reels? Trying to save money.
No
Any jiggs on your website you would suggest for Mexico / California? Or just favorite one in general? Thanks!
Already called the store and placed an order! 👍🏻
Hey Ryan Take a look at our site for the Torpedo jigs.
Lol...Pete just told he spoke to you. Thanks Ryan..This is Johnny BTW
@@JohnnyJigsTV well I’ll be sure to give you the update from Mexico! 👌🏻
Regarding fighting the fish with the reel, how do you fight the fish without pumping when it comes to grouper and bottom feeders that can cut your line in coral please?
You can pump as high as level to the ocean with the rod upon strike. We generally fight the fish "grouper" hard initially, then back off and only use the reel. Once it is off the bottom, there is no need for pumping, just reeling.
@@JohnnyJigsTV Thanks for your reply. I'll be changing to this technique
I learned
this might be a stupid question but is it necessary to use a jigging rod for a slow-pitch jig? would the jig still flutter decently with a regular rod?
Not a stupid question at all. You can use any rod, but what you get from a quality slow pitch rod is a nice slow unload that looks as if the jig is fighting to swim "more realistic movements". Also the rods are light weight. This is a very active style of fishing so weight is important and the more you can shave the longer you can jig. It's equivalent to putting cork in a baseball bat. You will achieve better movements have more sensitivity and less fatigue giving you an advantage. It's the right tool for the job.
@@JohnnyJigsTV gotcha thanks!
Which rods have a neutral spiral system?
Jig star and Temple Reef have the neutral guide system. Check out our rod section at Johnnyjigs.com or give us a call at the shop. We can give you a run down of all the rods available.
What purposes power 3 slow jigging rods are used for?
newbie here. Fishing out of Ft Myers in 30-40ft reefs would I use micro jigs for Mangrove and Lane Snapper? If so, which rod?
I’m trying to find a rod that can do 30 or 40 gram at least and 60, 70, 80- at max
hi i have just bought a spinal jigging rod cjf200g 56.697913 . I can't seem to find much info on it and nobody here in the uk seem to know of them. just wondered if you could help. are they any good. price range, ect thanks
Can you speed jig with slow pitch rods
which works better? Solid or hollow blanks
The hollow blanks are more sensitive and have better action.
what's the best shore jigging rods, please
I wanna know how and why rods are made the way they are. They all brag about toray carbon. It’s just 30% prepreg carbon cloth on a mandrel. It’s all about the layup, length and taper. Alot of the cheaper rods are the same thing as the expensive rods but only cheaper. Wouldnt be surprised if there’s a manufacturer in china that makes multiple rod brands.
Did you liv in ND 10 -15 yrs ago
I have the Diawa Saltist 15. What rod would you recommend? Probably jigging up to 200 feet. 150 grams? Have been lookingbatbthe Daiwa Harrier. Thanks