Jon that “drain” that you showed where you thought the water may have originated is probably an access lid to your septic tank. Ours looks just like that. If water was coming out of that, then you had more problems than you realized at the time 😮
You won't believe this because you're still young, but possessions are a burden. You think you own stuff, but it owns you. You have to find a spot for it, dust it, send your brother-in-law to rescue it if there is a flood, and worry about what will happen to it if you move. Do you want to pay an extra 300,000 baht for a condo so you have room for your drum kit? Less stuff means less stress.
Renting out, you’re gonna face the same problem if it floods again Jon. And you’d probably have to fund alternative accommodation for your tenants too! Many vulnerable house in England have now installed flood gates. These are like steel channelling around 40-60cm in height, screws to the threshold and sides of the external door frames. If there’s a risk of flooding, the owner can simply slide a solid board into the channelling. I guess the board could have rubber strips on the edges so it fits snug in the channels and seals. These could be made very easily in Chiang Mai …. Pretty easy and cheap solution for you to think about Jon.
Build a proper solid front fence and install a sliding steel gate.....sandbag any leaks..... I would raise those side fences for privacy let alone flooding ....
EXACTLY! Creativity rules when it comes to flood-proofing. Folks use sand bags, concrete bags, earth bags, etc. as fencing. RUclips is filled with ideas. I've watched these topics for over a decade. Use the resources and get creative!
John you are in a losing proposition at that location. That land was probably really in a no flood zone in the past. But as land altering construction projects in the watershed has increased, so to has the flood threat. Since, the building of walls and pouring of concrete isn't going to stop and will march forward every single day in that watershed, the likelihood of your house flooding again is going to also increase every day.
As an example, I live along a big river valley that has daily, scientific, recorded river levels going back to the 1880s. Four of the top ten highest recorded river levels were in the last 10 years. And 6 of the top 10 highest recorded river levels has been set in the last 20 years. This has all been caused by increased manmade land development in the watershed.
We moved straight after the flood, were in Nong Hoi, in a Soi that was supposedly immune to flooding. First flood didn't touch us, the second one very much did. It was a rental and (fortunately) our lease was up a few days later so all out stuff was in boxes, we moved them upstairs, jumped in the pick up and drove away, were lucky to be able to get out as the roads were impassable the next day. If we'd owned that house in Nong Hoi I would also be keen to sell it and get somewhere that doesn't flood
You could get flood panels for your doors and low windows and such. You only have to have the brackets mounted, then you attach the panels when needed. This way you don't have to build a permanent wall.
Jon my heart goes out to you and your family. My brother lives in chiang Mai and flooded as well. Power was out, water was intermittent and frankly you’re in a flood zone now. There are obviously two options to move and release the stress of every monsoon season potentially hurting your home or family or stay and deal with whatever happens. You won’t know of all you do to protect your home if any of it will work. By the way my brother had to escape his home due to running out of food and the waters almost took his life but fortunately was rescued by a Thai man with a raft.
I feel ya bro. My wifey is in real estate here and it’s devilish hard to sell a house here, then you add the flood history on the house. Easy to sell and rent houses that are out of the flood zone. You own the place and if you choose to stay put, you gotta think about hardening it against future floods. I’d extend the walls around the place as much as practical, with a mind to some sort of sandbag wall at the entrance. I guess your idea of a concrete floor was to keep water from welling up through the soil. And remember, traditional Thai homes are built on stilts to that things on the ground floor are either expendable or portable. Good luck!
Hi Jon. Hope it doesn't flood again or for a while. You clearly love the house and the area so stay. Build part walls and then have flood sheets you can just slide in place I.e in front of your main door etc if it comes in heavy again. Metal sheets which if aligned and fitted properly will do the job. Sand bag for any small gaps. Like your vids fella keep it up 😊
2 options - if you are very worried and not too bothered about staying in the house then move. Other option is look at some flood barriers that you can purchase. There are a lot available
My situation is similar here in Chiang Rai, the house flooded 2 meters deep ,and to make things worse it a bungalow,so not easy to save items,but did save my car and motorcycles which are worth more to me , suspect not easy to sell when people know it’s in a flood area , lucky for me did not cost a lot 😅
Listen to the people. You can't hide from the world. You are going to lose lots of money. Be still and wait. Relax because there are so many Thai people who have lost everything with no insurance. Everything will be fine. Relax, and if it happens again, then make a move. Don't let your fears and emotions overwhelm you. You got this.
Cheapest option is to stay. You'll lose more selling it at devalued prices than another flood would cost you. You also have the option of flood proofing it. Also next time you won't leave flood warnings to chance and move the car and everything upstairs.
How does renting it out help your concern? Wouldn’t you still be responsible for your house and potentially on top of that a place to live for your tenant? The tenant isn’t going to be responsible for natural disasters and will not fix your house. He may leave and demand the deposit back, or at the very least he would expect you to do the cleanup.
With CC we all have to live with the consequences. High Insurance/ No Insurance but ultimately find your inner happy peace. Enjoy your life with your nearest and dearest. My mate had so much millions of dollars but now dying of cancer. Just make sure family is taken care of.
High rise Condos the only way to go....wait six months and get it on the market. Honestly, after a few years of floods you will regret it. Sell it while it's in good condition. Good luck.
You're officially in a flood zone now. The house and surrounding estate has instantly been devalued, if it were me I'd just be accepting that fact then I'd be working out financially what's more cost effective for me and the family to do in the long run, going through another flood or cutting losses and moving well outside of the flood zone? I'd also seriously assess whether my family and I could mentally withstand another flood again or would the impending anxiety of every coming future wet season be too much to handle?
Would it be possible to build a flood defence wall completely around the property and install one of those slatted alumimium defence gates in ? ruclips.net/video/anqMoUhu4uo/видео.htmlsi=eUI4uWSC3Jtserlj
You're over thinking the flooding. Live there. Enjoy. Building a short wall is stupid forcing you to step over it every time you come and go. Ridiculous solution. Rental seems a possibility.
A house that was tethered but could float in floods wouldn't be such a bad idea in flood zones. A bit like the skyscrapers in Japan that are designed to sway in earthquakes. You can't fight nature.
Jon that “drain” that you showed where you thought the water may have originated is probably an access lid to your septic tank. Ours looks just like that. If water was coming out of that, then you had more problems than you realized at the time 😮
You won't believe this because you're still young, but possessions are a burden. You think you own stuff, but it owns you. You have to find a spot for it, dust it, send your brother-in-law to rescue it if there is a flood, and worry about what will happen to it if you move. Do you want to pay an extra 300,000 baht for a condo so you have room for your drum kit? Less stuff means less stress.
can be a burden if you let them be... great point... any property I purchase is in my wife's name.. takes off some of the burden
Renting out, you’re gonna face the same problem if it floods again Jon. And you’d probably have to fund alternative accommodation for your tenants too!
Many vulnerable house in England have now installed flood gates. These are like steel channelling around 40-60cm in height, screws to the threshold and sides of the external door frames. If there’s a risk of flooding, the owner can simply slide a solid board into the channelling. I guess the board could have rubber strips on the edges so it fits snug in the channels and seals.
These could be made very easily in Chiang Mai …. Pretty easy and cheap solution for you to think about Jon.
Build a proper solid front fence and install a sliding steel gate.....sandbag any leaks..... I would raise those side fences for privacy let alone flooding ....
EXACTLY! Creativity rules when it comes to flood-proofing. Folks use sand bags, concrete bags, earth bags, etc. as fencing. RUclips is filled with ideas. I've watched these topics for over a decade. Use the resources and get creative!
John you are in a losing proposition at that location. That land was probably really in a no flood zone in the past. But as land altering construction projects in the watershed has increased, so to has the flood threat. Since, the building of walls and pouring of concrete isn't going to stop and will march forward every single day in that watershed, the likelihood of your house flooding again is going to also increase every day.
As an example, I live along a big river valley that has daily, scientific, recorded river levels going back to the 1880s. Four of the top ten highest recorded river levels were in the last 10 years. And 6 of the top 10 highest recorded river levels has been set in the last 20 years. This has all been caused by increased manmade land development in the watershed.
We moved straight after the flood, were in Nong Hoi, in a Soi that was supposedly immune to flooding. First flood didn't touch us, the second one very much did. It was a rental and (fortunately) our lease was up a few days later so all out stuff was in boxes, we moved them upstairs, jumped in the pick up and drove away, were lucky to be able to get out as the roads were impassable the next day. If we'd owned that house in Nong Hoi I would also be keen to sell it and get somewhere that doesn't flood
I rented an apartment in Nong Hoi during the big flood in 2005 , moved to Hang Dong Koolpuntville 9 no flooding there thank good
You could get flood panels for your doors and low windows and such. You only have to have the brackets mounted, then you attach the panels when needed. This way you don't have to build a permanent wall.
Jon my heart goes out to you and your family. My brother lives in chiang Mai and flooded as well. Power was out, water was intermittent and frankly you’re in a flood zone now. There are obviously two options to move and release the stress of every monsoon season potentially hurting your home or family or stay and deal with whatever happens. You won’t know of all you do to protect your home if any of it will work. By the way my brother had to escape his home due to running out of food and the waters almost took his life but fortunately was rescued by a Thai man with a raft.
I feel ya bro. My wifey is in real estate here and it’s devilish hard to sell a house here, then you add the flood history on the house. Easy to sell and rent houses that are out of the flood zone. You own the place and if you choose to stay put, you gotta think about hardening it against future floods. I’d extend the walls around the place as much as practical, with a mind to some sort of sandbag wall at the entrance. I guess your idea of a concrete floor was to keep water from welling up through the soil. And remember, traditional Thai homes are built on stilts to that things on the ground floor are either expendable or portable. Good luck!
Hi Jon. Hope it doesn't flood again or for a while. You clearly love the house and the area so stay. Build part walls and then have flood sheets you can just slide in place I.e in front of your main door etc if it comes in heavy again. Metal sheets which if aligned and fitted properly will do the job. Sand bag for any small gaps. Like your vids fella keep it up 😊
2 options - if you are very worried and not too bothered about staying in the house then move. Other option is look at some flood barriers that you can purchase. There are a lot available
My situation is similar here in Chiang Rai, the house flooded 2 meters deep ,and to make things worse it a bungalow,so not easy to save items,but did save my car and motorcycles which are worth more to me , suspect not easy to sell when people know it’s in a flood area , lucky for me did not cost a lot 😅
Listen to the people. You can't hide from the world. You are going to lose lots of money. Be still and wait. Relax because there are so many Thai people who have lost everything with no insurance. Everything will be fine. Relax, and if it happens again, then make a move. Don't let your fears and emotions overwhelm you. You got this.
If you have a mortgage you have to have insurance
Think through very carefully and take the best decision
Cheapest option is to stay. You'll lose more selling it at devalued prices than another flood would cost you. You also have the option of flood proofing it. Also next time you won't leave flood warnings to chance and move the car and everything upstairs.
Move higher up the mountain. Less people, less floods.
How does renting it out help your concern? Wouldn’t you still be responsible for your house and potentially on top of that a place to live for your tenant? The tenant isn’t going to be responsible for natural disasters and will not fix your house. He may leave and demand the deposit back, or at the very least he would expect you to do the cleanup.
get flood protection, check eg "Shangri-La Hotel flood chiang mai". You already have many walls around the house.
With CC we all have to live with the consequences. High Insurance/ No Insurance but ultimately find your inner happy peace. Enjoy your life with your nearest and dearest. My mate had so much millions of dollars but now dying of cancer. Just make sure family is taken care of.
High rise Condos the only way to go....wait six months and get it on the market. Honestly, after a few years of floods you will regret it. Sell it while it's in good condition. Good luck.
It’s clearly going to be a concern going forward. Attempt to sell and see what happens. Explore options by doing
you'll make the best decision mate
You're officially in a flood zone now. The house and surrounding estate has instantly been devalued, if it were me I'd just be accepting that fact then I'd be working out financially what's more cost effective for me and the family to do in the long run, going through another flood or cutting losses and moving well outside of the flood zone? I'd also seriously assess whether my family and I could mentally withstand another flood again or would the impending anxiety of every coming future wet season be too much to handle?
Put it up for sale and it takes as long as it takes to sell
Would it be possible to build a flood defence wall completely around the property and install one of those slatted alumimium defence gates in ?
ruclips.net/video/anqMoUhu4uo/видео.htmlsi=eUI4uWSC3Jtserlj
Shouldn't your car insurance cover the car hire costs?
You're over thinking the flooding. Live there. Enjoy. Building a short wall is stupid forcing you to step over it every time you come and go. Ridiculous solution. Rental seems a possibility.
If your thinking of renting out, I could be interested, from around Feb or March + for 1 year +. Do you have a throw away email?
18.000 Baht for 1 month ( 30 days ) is €16,50 per day....??
Will it food again?
Buy a house boat.
A house that was tethered but could float in floods wouldn't be such a bad idea in flood zones. A bit like the skyscrapers in Japan that are designed to sway in earthquakes. You can't fight nature.
What does your wife want to do?
I can buy it off you for £50 if you like?
Flood is a deluge of flowing water
Food is what humans use as sustenance