Citroen Berlingo Rear Brakes and Rear Axle Removal
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2022
- Removing the rear brakes and rear axle from a 2011 Citroen Berlingo B9
The axle is scrap due to the accident damage, however the rear callipers and perhaps the rear disks may still be of use as spares for another berlingo, possibly even the C4 that has replaced this berlingo. The video shows how to remove the rear axle which may be useful if the rear axle bushes need to be replaced.
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Just out of curiosity thought you’d maybe know, them B9 berlingos have you heard anything about the rear axles in them ? Seen alot of issues saying they wonder to the left and it’s an axle issue? Do you think that has bent the rear leg on yours ?
Hi there, as far as i am aware the rear axles in these B9's give little in the way of bother.
The older berlingos with the torsion bar axles were prone to issues and needed rebuilt. These B9s are much simpler, he hardest job is replacing the bushes where they pivot. Never actually done it on this one but will at some time need to do it on my C4 which has a similar arrangement (as does the 307, 308, c3 etc). If you are getting odd tyre wear check those bushes.
Rust possibly would cause it to weaken and deform, not to sure if any are of that age yet, possibly ones around coastal areas or in corrosive environments may have rusted more. This Berlingo in the video took quite a substantial impact to the side which bent the axle itself. It was easy to see that just standing looking at the vehicle.
Hi, I have a Partner Tepee which I believe is the same. The front suspension rattles over uneven surface, bad roads, potholes etc. The dealer said nothing wrong all fine. Clearly not. I have since done some digging on the web and it seems these vehicles suffer from knocking front suspension. My car had only done 23k miles and I was stuck with it as dealer refused to fix it. So I did it myself with new ARB drop links, suspension top mounts and bearings nicely greased up. Also new engine mount, the main top one on the cam belt end of the engine. This seemed to improve things alot at fist although there was still knocking rumbling over bad road surfaces that I don't get in my other cars also Peugeot. Anyway after about 8k miles the knocking rumbling is back. It drives me nuts. Is this an inherent problem with the front suspension on these Berlingos and Partners? The suspension top mounts seem to be a poor design and I thinking of fitting another sort that couldn't rattle. Also I have read it could be loose or worn steering rack mountings although the steering on mine is spot on and I don't think the rack is loose. it's never been picked up during an MOT. The guy who MOTs my cars is a retired ex Aston Martin or Rolls Royce engineer at F1Auto centres who doesn't need to work he just loves being around cars. He is usually very thorough. He only does MOTs. Anyway your thoughts on the front suspension of these would be a great help as the knocking/chattering from mine is driving me nuts. My Partner Tepee has done done 35k miles.
That is a serious amount of damage your Berlingo has suffered. I hope the occupants were ok.
Hi there
The front suspension on these is in general quite a simple layout, not an excessive amount of joints and linkages to go wrong and even a full overhaul never costs too much. They can clunk a bit on higher mileage vehicles but i would not say there is an inherent design flaw or anything bad about how it goes together.
Although a vehicle with just 23k on it should not start clunking already. Engine mounts especially ive seen them on cars with this engine at 200k miles and still solid.
Ideally the car will need lifted up off its wheels, a lift is best. Use a pry bar around the suspension to look for anything loose or with excess play in it.The anti roll bar drop links are the most common on PSA cars. Lower wishbone bushes can cause clunks also. Although check it all.
It can depend what parts have been fitted, cheaper brands will wear out quicker.
The steering rack is mounted to the subframe with two sturdy bolts, have a look at this video where i pull the engine and subframe out of this berlingo:
ruclips.net/video/GHl3e857AXs/видео.html
That might shed a light better on it.
The C4 i bought to replace this berlingo is clunking a bit round the front end so i will at some stage get it up on the lift to diagnose and resolve the issue.
The berlingo took a bit of a hit, i was the only one in it when it happened. The other car slid on ice into the side of me. Thankfully it was the rear door that took the knock, no injuries sustained by either person. Unfortunately it wrote off this berlingo which was a really useful vehicle.
@@peugeotCitroen2CV Many thanks for your your full reply. I didn't realise it was you driving! OMG. Glad you were ok. Yes they are extremely useful vehicles. Mine is the 1.6HDi 120 bhp. It's quite quick. £30 VED tax which makes it even better. I love it except for the rumbling/knocking front suspension. Most useful car I have had although the other Peugeots I have had have been pretty good as well but my Partner Tepee is on another level.
I shall have to get mine up on a ramp or take it somewhere who knows what they are doing. Yeah I replaced the ARBs drop links which were cheapish and also suspension top mounts and top engine mount. The latter was the most expensive. I am at a bit of loss really. Years agoI had a 205STDT that had the same problem, but I replaced the pretty much the front suspension, top mounts and rubbers, shock absorbers, drop links and after it drove like new. It had 120k miles on it now 145k. Still got it. I also had a 106 1.1 Zest that didn't suffer from this problem. Great car that, I got it at 30k miles and put just over 40k on it. Peugeot have made make some great cars. Looking at an RCZ now.
Many thanks again for taking the time to reply. ATB.
@@alexmorgan3435 It must be slightly later, 120bhp in these makes them quite fun indeed. £30 VED was what i wanted to find this one being older was £140, not bad but there is a definite appeal to £30 haha. Does yours have 5 or 6 speeds?
The 205 STDT is superb, dont sell it whatever you do, as fast in the real world as the GTI with a good dollop of torque and fuel economy.
@@peugeotCitroen2CV My Partner Tepee is 1.6Hdi Blue, 2015,120bhp, 6spd, climate, cruise control, etc. Yeah £30 VED. It's emissions are 115G/KM. It's strange as I looked at a couple of older ones and the VED was £145-150 back in 2019 iirc. Mine's a 2015. Slightly younger ones I think 2016/2017 on go back up to VED rate of £145-150 or even currently £180 for 12months VED.
So say if own it for 10 years based in today's VED rates that's a saving of £150/year and £1,500 over 10 years. Since I bought the £30 VED rate has remained the same but the 145g/km back has jumped from £145 to £180 so saving even more £££££. I hope the gov don't realise the VED is only £30 and increase it. But it's emissions are rated as 115g/km.
I get about 48 mpg however I drive it which is a bit disappointing as I was hoping for 60-65mpg that Peugeot claim but never get anywhere near this figure.
In 120bhp it is quite fun to drive. When you need to get a wriggle on it's relatively quick and has lots of torque, but it does weigh almost 2 tonnes. For what it is the performance is quite good. I have driven under powered diesel vans before and I didn't want to buy a lower powered Tepee. As far as I am aware they are also available with diesel engines giving 90bhp and 75bhp.
I looked at quite a few and travelled quite a distance over the country. One was down in Southampton. I live in East Anglia. Many seem to have been bought as part of the Motability Scheme and some have had their rear floors converted for a drop down ramp for a wheel chair.
The one I saw in S'ampton wasn't Motability, had 10k miles on it, £30 VED but who ever had owned it had kept horses or dogs and inside it was rank. The Peugeot dealer told me it would clean up easily like new. Yeah right, why haven't you done it then? I tell you there was dirt grime and mud everywhere inside the seat mechanisms etc.
I spent about about 6 months looking for one until I eventually finally found one, 22k miles, clean inside and FPSH. It was near Leeds. I must have looked at about 10 by this point and beginning to think I would never find one in good condition.
Mine's sky metallic blue with the silver Managua alloy wheels which are all unmarked. I've put about 12-13k on it in nearly 3 year so not a huge mileage and now on 35k. At the moment it's very much a keeper. It's so easy to drive and as you say so useful with the rear seats coming out so easily and a large loading area. Just wish it was a tiny bit longer so I could get my motorbikes in, but can't have everything. I don't really want a large van. Had huge Renault Master for a few years many years ago. As I say the only downside has been the chattering front suspension. It's like if you were to turn a bucket upside and gently knock at various frequencies to mimic going over bumps or driving on poor road surfaces. It does my head in, but everything else is so good with it I have got used to it but it's still not right. Stoneacre who I bought it from have washed their hands of it despite me getting a 5 year warranty with it. I do all my own servicing anyway. I don't trust those grease monkeys. I haven't had to do much except change the oil and oil filter and air filter as it is pretty low maintenance.
My STDT is looking rather sorry for itself atm. I've owned it a few years, summer 2001 I think I bought it with just over 75k on the clock and in mint condition. It's a 1993 car in Aztec gold with a beige interior. I had ambitions of getting it back on the road and enjoying it again. The boot floor has rusted a bit as the tailgate was leaking, common fault on them, but the rest of the body is ok. The engine is still good 145k on it. I changed the oil every 3k miles without fail when I was using it.
Shortly after I bought it back in the summer of 2001, I had the diesel pump recalibrated and an aluminium intercooler fitted down at the front beneath the radiator by Allard Engineering who used to be in Monmouth who used to do this mod to new STDTs when they were sold new in the early 1990s. I had mine dyno'd after the intercooler was fitted and diesel pump recalibrated and it was producing 98bhp at the front wheels and a corresponding large increase in torque. Burying the accelerator throttle in 3rd/4th gear at 40mph gave rapid acceleration right up to 85-90mph and on into 3 figures. The needle literally flew around the speedo as you felt a real shove in the back from the sports seats. I loved that car when it was my daily driver for about 6-7 years. It was fun on motorways, floor it at 70-75 and in an instant you were up to 3 figures. And it handled so beautifully as well. Perhaps the brakes could have been better. I got some 1.6Gti vented discs and callipers but never got around to fitting them for various reasons.
I drove a 1.9GTi and as quick as it was, my STDT felt just as quick, but you didn't have to rev the nuts off it to get it to go as being a diesel it had so much low down torque.
Strangely fuel consumption on my STDT improved slightly 50 mpg after fitting the intercooler, obviously not if I ragged it, but it was never below 44-45mpg. Apart from that mine is std, except the 1.9GTi alloy wheels. I got these as some bastard put a drill through the tyres on the std rims and the 1.9GTi wheels and tyres were cheapest option to get back on the road at the time plus I really rather wanted some. Mine could really do with new paint as the lacquer has failed on the roof and bonnet as unfortunately I have to keep it outside exposed to all weathers, cold and heat, wind and rain.
I was thinking of letting the STDT go as I now have an RCZ as well which I love. Maybe the 106 Zest will have to go first although I love this as it is just so simple and basic and fun to drive. It's still in good condition with70k miles on the clock. Too many cars and bikes and not enough time to drive and ride them all!!!
There are 120bhp Berlingo and Partner Tepees around just not that many and you have to be patient for the right one to come along. I was looking for about 6 months and eventually I found one. Strangely none of the ones I road tested had rattly chattering front suspension. A few were a bit vague in the steering but mine isn't. It's pretty spot on sharp and the actual damping of the suspension is good despite it making a noise. It doesn't wallow or float like the other ones I drove.
Anyway thanks for replying. ATB.