Actually, taylor was invited to July 4th with the Kennedy's by Ethel Kennedy because of the song Taylor had written about Bobby and Ethel. Taylor being invited had nothing to do with Conor. The relationship itself was described as a "good distraction" by the Kennedy family. To paint the picture that she is a a predator is incorrect.
like, i craved bread and was bummed out that the store was closed because of that bread. truly, for one third of an hour we lived together in a different world, ladies and gentlemen. now that the paradigm has shifted, i cannot but feel an uneasy emptiness within me; where bread should be. i had not prepared myself for this.
You should do "a chronically online girl explains" for the Outer banks drama involving the two actors who had their doubles do their cuddle scenes with each other 💀
16:36 I feel like this shot demonstrates the dynamic perfectly. She’s embodying 60s political powerhouse First Lady and standing next to her is … a barely 18 year old boy in a graphic t shirt and cargo shorts ready to catch a frisbee. The ridiculousness is off the charts.
Those pictures truly do say a thousand words... kinda makes a modern song like Fortnite extra creepy! Like that feels beyond my years and she is 12 YEARS older than me :|
I feel so bad for Connor like imagine ur 17 and ur mom just died and some 23 year old woman dates you solely because she’s obsessed with ur grandma 😭😭😭 like that’s insane
It’s so predatory and disgusting I’m sorry I didn’t even know this happened. And also, i don’t know if it’s already been addressed by taylor but wasn’t she pictured with someone who was wearing a nazi shirt? Was that true or edited? I saw it once on twitter
@@bruisesofrosesIt actually wasn't a nazi shirt, it was a swastika symbol which is a Indian Hindu symbol of prosperity but I'm not sure if it's edited
I am a huge Taylor Swift fan and I can agree all day everyday that this was weird and wrong. 2 things can be true, Taylor can be someone who was taken advantage of by multiple age gap relationships and also have done it herself
@@ambriaashley3383 a 3ish year age gap is different than 10+ -- like they could have gone to the same high school at the same time, the connor kennedy situation was a little weird, but i don't see Harry Styles as weird, esp cuz she hasn't had an age gap romance since then? That's not a pattern. If she was still dating freshly 18 yo boys maybe...
The culture around Taylor swift and how people are genuinely scared to criticise her strange behaviour is so unhealthy to me. I understand it probably comes from a place of people being defensive after she was specifically targeted with a lot of misogynistic and unjustified insults in the early to late 2010's, but it's turned into people deciding that anyone who talks negatively about her actions is immediately a bad person who needs to be punished. Thank u for making this video even though swifties can be scary
i’m a taylor fan but literally 💀 anyone can have some sort of criticism, and taylor has done bad things in her past and present that should be talked about and not just swept under the rug because she’s taylor swift
@ yes!! like taylor is no where near perfect and can be criticized, but with that it doesn’t mean every single little thing she doesn’t should be broken down (not saying you do this also no hate meant :) )
the way my jaw dropped when i saw the title of the video ⁉️ i had totally forgotten about the whole QUEST taylor did in order to literally become a kennedy for like a month 💀💀💀
Im a swiftie but omfg guys can we please just admit that some things that Taylor does/has done are wrong? You can love someones work and also admit their faults
I agree but some people are being dramatic both ways. From the "He was basically 18 and she was practically 21" stuff to the "he was 17 and she was 24" stuff. It's why I ignored this period for so long. It's all rumours. Different conflicting stories. Until this video I legitimately thought she might have bought that house before they even met and specifically targeted him. The way people talk about this is so many levels of unhinged in every way. I mean you have people taking this and using it to say that her and Taylor Lautner was also predatory it's ridiculous.
I grew up on cape cod, taylor buying a house and dating a kennedy was all you ever heard about for a while lol. Then as fast as she bought it, she sold it which was honestly a huge bummer. The house she bought is about 10 minutes from me, it's insanely nice
As a swiftie, I would like to say that during this period of time (and some others for that matter), Taylor swift had royally - and I cannot stress this enough - fucked up
thank u for talking about this it was SO FUCKING CREEPY and the pictures of her at his mom's grave make me DIE. like that's definition of predatory- swooping in when he's vulnerable, after dating his COUSIN?? all bc of her weird desire to be a kennedy... crazy
@@victoriaruiz4672 oh yes- his name was Patrick Schwarzenegger. she wanted to be a Kennedy so badly she family hopped. so creepy and disturbing, genuinely. it was all within the same summer, I believe. signing conor out from school and buying a house down the street is crazy behavior
im 23 and cannot imagine being friends with someone who’s 18, i used to teach AP geography to high school seniors last year, even at 21 and 22 i felt so far mentally from them and couldn’t like them like that because they’re literally still kids, living with their parents and going to school, we lead very different lives.
I don't think it's that weird. Dating? Yes, that's creepy. But friends...I am friends with people who are 18 or even younger (I'm 23) and also I have some older friends. It's more about if you have some common interests and you understand each other than where are you in life. And like I'm also kinda still living with parents and going to school... Also we're all part of bigger friend group I think the big part is who are they cus like here in school I'm 2 or 3 years older than most people in my school year and sometimes it feels like they're kids and I'm much older and then when I go to talk with my autistic friends or friends with similar personality or interests, I don't feel the age gap at all
@@ryanjohnson06doesn’t change the fact that she dated as a 22 years old superstar TEENAGER still in school right after he lost his mother solely because she was obsessed with his family.
I would LOOOVVVEEE for you to do a chronically online girl episode about the whole Dylan O'Brien, Gracie Abrams, Sadie Sink, and Sabrina Carpenter tea I've been seeing circulate around!!!!!
@@longlivelinzi I think there was some overlap of dylan dating gracie and sabrina. Gracie wrote one song about this on her latest album. Idk how Sadie is involved here.
@@muskaan3711 I think it's because Gracie sings "I wish that I didn't, but I know too much You stranded Sadie and Sarah when they opened up" in one of her newer songs named 'cool' so a lot of people think she is implying that he was involved with sadie too.
@@Moi_muahif this is true, that’s crazy work considering she and him were in the atw10mv music video about a toxic relationship between an older guy and younger girl
i hate that people feel that they can’t say anything bad about taylor swift. i think all taylor swift fans myself included should be able to recognize that no one is above doing bad things and i think a 23 and 17 year old relationship is disgusting
@@Pookie-v1m it's actually quite common for people to jump into new relationships after a loss. given that Taylor was flirting with Conor's cousin before she and Conor actually started dating, it's likely that the relationship was born out of Taylor's deep desire to become part of the Kennedy clan. people act like she preyed on a grieving teenager solely because of his vulnerability which is highly unlikely given what we know. however, I don't want to speculate too much on their relationship because we don't know if Conor or his family is comfortable with this kind of talk
@@bree7750 as someone who jumped in a situationship right after grieve, that shit messed me up so much. Never a good idea. I actually thought the guy got advantage of my extreme vulnerability. It ruined my self confidence when I needed it the most. Terrible idea. But it does happen.
@@slendygameing7791 nah swifties know this wasnt good, and most of us know that taylor swift is not perfect all of the time, the loud ones just think that
What is wrong with Bobby Kennedy? Lol. He would’ve made a great president if he wasn’t shot. Literally pushed for the civil rights act passing in ‘64. Would say he was a great politician.
nicole idk if you've seen any of the rudy pankow drama but can you PLEASE make a chronically online girl explains about it?!? I have no idea what's going on and idk who to believe. Also love u diva, u deserve everything good in the world
oh my god starlight was one of my favorite taylor swift songs when i was a kid and it’s about the KENNEDYS???? when i was younger i thought the line was “i’m a barbie on the boardwalk summer of ‘45” and i remember thinking “what? ew” when i found out it was actually “i met bobby”
I remember another youtuber did a video about weird age gaps in relationships and Taylor was one of the examples. They said something along the lines that Taylor must've thought the world was really gonna end in 2012 because she had like two relationships with barely legal boys during that time.
as a swiftie ive really blocked this out of my memory so seeing this video made me have a visceral reaction. she did NOT play around about her kennedy hyperfixation i fear
As a swiftie, I’m actually happy to learn something about this, as I haven’t heard much about it. Love the video and i totally get your pov of Connor being a victim
I remember being 22 and looking at 18 year old boys like preschoolers. It is strange she was interested in him. I love Taylor, don’t kill me. I can only think she was going through it, after Jake, breakup. She fell hard and fast into the Kennedy dream.
I also believe this. And not to justify her behavior, however, Jake was TEN years older than her. So for her to be in a brief relationship where she was four years older than Connor probably didn’t seem weird to her cause she was gaslit while she was with Jake. Hurt people hurt people, ya know?
@ Im extremely confident most swifties don’t say thats why. The most common response is “Well she was in age gap relationships too” Furthermore, just because their relationship didn’t negatively impact him, it doesn’t negate her actions
@@claire5711yes!! i’m a taylor fan, but even if the relationship was healthy it doesn’t make it any less weird, it makes a little less weird but there is still a big age gap
@@milkyphone269 literally what is wromg with a 2 month fling with a small age gap if it was healthy? People have become so militant about age gaps when the age gap itself is not actually an issue, it is just that age gaps can often create a power dynamic which can be maliciously exploited and then the age gap ois obvs bad. But if that exploitation doesn't take place then like.... an 18 year old dated a 22 year old for 2 months and it was not very deep, and that's it. idk why people wanna still talk about this it's been over a decade.
I went to high school with Conor, it was always so INSANE to hear that mega pop star Taylor Swift was dating a senior from our fucking high school. Like, the whole world knows Taylor Swift, but almost none know that she's a grown ass woman dating a senior at my school.
As a lifetime swiftie, there are three major incidents that we completely fault Taylor for: she cannot act we just support her in that endeavor, her dating Matt Healy and her relationship with Connor Kennedy which was not okay.
You should add how she treated Tom Hiddleston. It really felt like she used him then ran. Then she made fun of him in look what you made me do video(I ❤️ taylor swift t-shirt) and gorgeous song.
I agree with 1 and 3 but her story with Matt Healy goes way before 2023, it starts in 2014. It is also rumored that some of the Folklore and Evermore song are about him. She already had feelings for him way before he partook in the racist thing.
As a swiftie, I approve of this message!! No but seriously, I had never even heard about any of this or the lore of starlight. It's definitely VERY questionable behavior, especially since his mother recently died. The whole situation seems very absurd honestly (it's so creepy to literally buy a house right next to your teenage boyfriend of one month). Happy to see that Connor is happy now tho Also, don't stop calling out Taylor for the things that are actually weird or bad stuff. I hate the whole swiftie culture around "hating"(literally just critiqueing) her. No one is above judgement
I love Taylor swift and happily went to the eras tour, but I have an 18 yr old daughter and I would be upset if she started dating a 22 yr old. She’s a senior in high school like what!?!?
not to rile up the swifties, but it makes sense that taylor swift is so open to perpetuating parasocial relationship when this is how she behaved with a celebrity family
This was a weird way for me to find out the lyrics of Starlight aren’t “I’m a Barbie on the boardwalk summer of ‘45” 😂😅😅 I never looked them up and just assumed she was talking about how she looked like an OG Barbie from 1945 or something, but clearly I was wrong and I also just googled and Barbies didn’t come out until 1959 lmfaooo
Taylor dating Harry Styles when she was 22 and he was 17 is also so weird, and no one ever talks about it. Whenever people discuss 1989 and the songs she wrote about him, they act like he was some grown man "treating her badly and not taking the relationship serious." But she was writing songs about a 17-year-old boy in the world's biggest boy band... like what did you expect???
The thing about people intepreting 1989 like that is that its just wrong. The album doesn't imply a serious relationship like that, it was a whirlwind romance that ended horribly, it didn't go well for either of them. People have no reading comprehension and ignore what she ACTUALLY says in her songs and just go harry/joe/matty/connor (matty actually bad tho) and don't listen to the substance of the song.
So true. A lot of people just ignore it cause haylor satisfies their pop culture obsession. BUT honestly how someone who is like college post graduate thinking dating a high school grad is fine?? like come onnnn and writing songs like that too? AND GOING ON STAGES AND TRYING TO GET HIS ASS ON NATIONAL TV? I feel bad for how much harry had to endure. Major YIKES.
Next vid: chronically online girl explains cowboy &clementine lore ( like a self-satire about your cats because you’re really good at the tongue-in-cheek humor vibes and also I low key want to know their stories ❤)
Also it’s crazy AF that she groomed another boy again and it was HARDY FREAKING STYLES . Like he had barely turned 18 too & this was not to long after this relationship with Connor . Just … gross
I personally think she may have not seen an issue between her and Conors' age gap because she had been in much more drastic of age gap relationships (like John Mayer, 13 years & Jake gyllenhaal, nearly 10 years) which might make the situation better or worse, probably worse. I’m able to say that a 23 year old and a high school senior dating is weird and gross as a die-hard swiftie.
Pretty sad bc people generally expect those who were abused to then not abuse others themselves … but ofc we all know it happens, esp if you haven’t processed the abuse or mistreatment. Still gross though, agree with what you said. It’s not okay to excuse abuse or victimization, no matter who does it. I believe anyone who commits abuse must atone to their victim & other victims in whatever way the survivor wants
@@ambriaashley3383 thats usually how people become abusers in the first place, they were abused too. thats why its so important to talk about it and be able to recognize grooming because otherwise the cycle is just gonna continue
@@spookeymo ok but she’s not an abuser💀 she made a bad choice, but the age gap isn’t that bad. He was an adult. He was 18, she was 22. I think the worst part is that she was obsessed with his fam. It’s weird, but people should move the hell on. Like it’s not illegal, just dumb af. Let’s not throw the term abuser around pls and thx
I know a 27 year old that just married a 19 year old… and nobody in their families say anything because it’s not their business, but this is outrage online. I think people need to be as willing to confront abusers they know as they are to criticize the ones they don’t. I don’t know why we are so sure that something is wrong on the internet but the second it’s two people you know, all of a sudden we don’t know everything and it’s not our place to intervene.
Taylor Swift was with John Mayer when she was 19 and he was 32 or with Jake Gyllennhaal when she was 20 and he was 29. Thats like so much worse because the Gap is insane and I dont remember that there were a lot of people going crazy. The blame was more put on Taylor for making Songs about her relationships
@ how is being an adult AND out of high school worse than her dating a kid right after his mother died, yall will defend this woman to the ends of the earth
@@henkagomez The Kid also was 18 when they dated. Yes He was in high school but He was one year Younger than her when she got in a relationship With a man who was 13 years old than her. So how was she a full grown adult with 19 and He was a Kid with 18? And yes that relationship was absolutely questionable and also her behaviour. But the Internet then Didnt Care so much about age Gap Relationships. Today would be a total different Story No matter If a men or a Woman IS doing the grooming. That was my Point.
@ did you not watch the video and just came to defend her name in the comments? first of all they dated when he was 17 not 18 and she was 22 and those 2-5 years out of high school make a big difference. she groomed him for gods sake. he’d just lost his mother and she was a person of notoriety why must y’all defend her to the ends of the earth before admitting what she’s done.
@henkagomez I Literally Said that the relationship was very questionable but that was Not the Point of your First comment. Your comment was about that you think that Nobody really cared because it was a women grooming a high schooler and If the roles we're Reversed everyone would be saying Something. And I Made my Point saying that Back then These age Gap/grooming relationships were Not Seen as problematic as today No Matter If a man or a Woman did the grooming. And I used the perfect example of Taylor Swift herself because she was on both Sides in different problematic Relationships.
Taylor Swift dated Conor Kennedy when he was 17 and She was 23. She picked him from School for date, crashed his cousin's wedding uninvited and refused to Leave when they asked her, bought a house next to his house in just one weeks, All of these things happened when his Mother passed away by suicide. This is just creepy. Also Harry Styles was 18 and She age was 23. These Two guys also dumped her. LOL.
Taylor swift has always been predatory in most of her relationships. So many of her boyfriends were either minors or freshly turned 18 and it’s extremely inappropriate PERIOD. if swiftys wanna try to defend that, you need to start defending every other creep adult who dates teens too. If someone like Drake can be called a pedophile publicly for (as far as the public knows) just texting multiple teenagers, then Taylor doesn’t just get a pass bc you like her corny music. It’s hypocrisy and it’s gross how little you guys actually care for victims or protecting teenagers bc when it comes to your fav it “doesn’t matter”
as a swiftie, i apologise for the crazy "swifties" out there who dont see how this relationship was an issue tay has been in so many weird relationships its acually insane, i just try to separate the music from weird shit like that love ts and love u nicole!
Stop the ICarly comparison actually helped me gauge the relationship pretty well 😭😭 I’m so proud that you and Miranda could squash the beef after she stole ur car
Talking about Mary Kennedy and her mental health, Mary found RFK jrs journal in which he wrote down the 37 women he cheated on her with and told her sisters that if anything were to happen to her they should send it to the press. She did so much good, she did not deserve a marrige to a man like him
i’ve started to feel like i’m living in an alternate reality with the whole not being allowed to have an opinion on TS thing so thank you for mentioning that out loud 😭😂
We wouldn’t be so defensive about her if it weren’t for the fact that a lot of the world hate us and bash one of our favorite artists in front of us ALL the time. It’s grates on you after a while 🫤
@ i hate to break it to you but the number of ppl who love her greatly outweighs the ppl who don’t. criticism is allowed & nobody is exempt so for you to jump on the throat of anyone who says _anything_ ab her that’s not worship is actually out of touch.
@@pixie9499 I never said criticism isn’t allowed. I even have my own criticisms of her. But I hate to break it to you that just because her fans may outweigh her haters, unlike most artists her haters are very LOUD. You can go on a comment section of a video, or TikTok, or reel or anything that has nothing to do with Taylor, and someone will find a way to drag her in the comments. Being most loved also comes with being most hated. The reason you don’t see fans of other artists being defensive is because they don’t have haters that are as loud and astounding as Taylor haters are. Also, us Swifties are often categorized with the most extreme of us. Most of us aren’t jumping down peoples throats for having a valid opinion. I’m wasn’t trying to attack you for your comment. I was just simply trying to give you another POV.
@@M95-t7cNo need to call people a whore that's not really necessary just because she has dated a lot in her life doesn't make her that word and if it does why not call men that to??
As a swiftie, I literally didn’t know this I was too young to know any of this drama when it was happening I guess. Pretty problematic and I’m glad you’re talking about it!
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Actually, taylor was invited to July 4th with the Kennedy's by Ethel Kennedy because of the song Taylor had written about Bobby and Ethel. Taylor being invited had nothing to do with Conor. The relationship itself was described as a "good distraction" by the Kennedy family. To paint the picture that she is a a predator is incorrect.
@@daisydroid2 things can be true at once.
Sincerely, a Swiftie since 2013
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BUT GREAT VIDEO ILY
Are you staying in Philadelphia when you move btw? I haven’t looked too hard for the answer but I just wanna know 🥺
we need chronically online girl explains phoebe bridgers, daisy edgar jones and paul mescal drama
@@lover.girl.123 this!!
Please, I don’t know the drama and I keep hearing about Paul Mascal
Please, I don’t know the drama and keep hearing about Paul mescal 🙏
Wait wait wait… there’s DRAMA WITH THESE THREE?
there's no drama with these 3 though?
why did I think she was holding a baguette the whole video.
if shes not holding a baguette what is she holding
@@hannahtia3608 a stake for if Stefan Salvatore tries to smile at her or literally anyone
SHES NOT?! 😭
like, i craved bread and was bummed out that the store was closed because of that bread. truly, for one third of an hour we lived together in a different world, ladies and gentlemen. now that the paradigm has shifted, i cannot but feel an uneasy emptiness within me; where bread should be. i had not prepared myself for this.
@@currentlyeatingshit it's a rolling pin
You should do "a chronically online girl explains" for the Outer banks drama involving the two actors who had their doubles do their cuddle scenes with each other 💀
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OH MY GOD YES
@@khrystaliah he cheated on his gf good
omg please
@@Evar0sewhat????
An uncarly and Nicole video in one day is truly a blessing unparalleled
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16:36 I feel like this shot demonstrates the dynamic perfectly. She’s embodying 60s political powerhouse First Lady and standing next to her is … a barely 18 year old boy in a graphic t shirt and cargo shorts ready to catch a frisbee. The ridiculousness is off the charts.
Those pictures truly do say a thousand words... kinda makes a modern song like Fortnite extra creepy! Like that feels beyond my years and she is 12 YEARS older than me :|
@@t0xtricityit’s giving she was trying to dress like his grandma that had literally just died.. freud would have a field day with this relationship
soooo predatory and disgusting of her.
She met him when he was 17 btw!
i saw kennedy and thought of jfk and assumed she was involved in his assassination
LMAO 😂 Another Swiftie conspiracy unlocked.
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NO SAME.
I’m cryingg
I feel so bad for Connor like imagine ur 17 and ur mom just died and some 23 year old woman dates you solely because she’s obsessed with ur grandma 😭😭😭 like that’s insane
damn yeah so true 😳😭
It’s so predatory and disgusting I’m sorry I didn’t even know this happened. And also, i don’t know if it’s already been addressed by taylor but wasn’t she pictured with someone who was wearing a nazi shirt? Was that true or edited? I saw it once on twitter
@@bruisesofrosesthat was edited… lol
@@movieclips6654 nah i searched it up and apparently it really was real that she posed with someone who wore a swastika shirt. Yikes.
@@bruisesofrosesIt actually wasn't a nazi shirt, it was a swastika symbol which is a Indian Hindu symbol of prosperity but I'm not sure if it's edited
I loved when you showed Trisha and her husband cosplaying Taylor and Travis 🤣 trisha is ALWAYS present in one way or another.
can u give me a time stamp 😭
I am a huge Taylor Swift fan and I can agree all day everyday that this was weird and wrong. 2 things can be true, Taylor can be someone who was taken advantage of by multiple age gap relationships and also have done it herself
18 and 22 is not weird u guys r fucking brain rotted
yes! and she did it again with harry styles. two things can be true at once!!!
Finally, when I found out abt this, I was like Taylor girl what?
@@levilam4468so just weird and not necessarily “wrong”. Cuz she was 22 (at his 18) almost 23 love. I’m still sensing a pattern of behavior
@@ambriaashley3383 a 3ish year age gap is different than 10+ -- like they could have gone to the same high school at the same time, the connor kennedy situation was a little weird, but i don't see Harry Styles as weird, esp cuz she hasn't had an age gap romance since then? That's not a pattern. If she was still dating freshly 18 yo boys maybe...
Regardless of whether we are ignoring the rumors or not, dating a high schooler two months after his mother died at 22 years of age is creep behaviour
At 22 her own frontal lobe hasn't fully developed. 27 sure, but 22 is reaching 💀
the thing i look the most forward to with all these videos is finding how trisha is related/pictured
matty healy lore video would be insane
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@@m1yauh girl, please not that rat
@@samaramorgan8973 idk where you're getting "making up his own narrative from", but that's not the case.
The culture around Taylor swift and how people are genuinely scared to criticise her strange behaviour is so unhealthy to me. I understand it probably comes from a place of people being defensive after she was specifically targeted with a lot of misogynistic and unjustified insults in the early to late 2010's, but it's turned into people deciding that anyone who talks negatively about her actions is immediately a bad person who needs to be punished. Thank u for making this video even though swifties can be scary
i’m a taylor fan but literally 💀 anyone can have some sort of criticism, and taylor has done bad things in her past and present that should be talked about and not just swept under the rug because she’s taylor swift
@@milkyphone269As a fan too I agree
Celebrity worship is so odd to me. They're people too. Just because they can sing/dance/act well doesn't mean they're perfect and can't be criticized.
@@annatria2130 I totally agree with you. I can't imagine worshipping celebrities
@ yes!! like taylor is no where near perfect and can be criticized, but with that it doesn’t mean every single little thing she doesn’t should be broken down (not saying you do this also no hate meant :) )
the way my jaw dropped when i saw the title of the video ⁉️ i had totally forgotten about the whole QUEST taylor did in order to literally become a kennedy for like a month 💀💀💀
I’m a huge swiftie and somehow never knew the background of starlight or half this story. That’s cray LOL
Im a swiftie but omfg guys can we please just admit that some things that Taylor does/has done are wrong? You can love someones work and also admit their faults
I agree but some people are being dramatic both ways. From the "He was basically 18 and she was practically 21" stuff to the "he was 17 and she was 24" stuff. It's why I ignored this period for so long. It's all rumours. Different conflicting stories. Until this video I legitimately thought she might have bought that house before they even met and specifically targeted him. The way people talk about this is so many levels of unhinged in every way.
I mean you have people taking this and using it to say that her and Taylor Lautner was also predatory it's ridiculous.
I grew up on cape cod, taylor buying a house and dating a kennedy was all you ever heard about for a while lol. Then as fast as she bought it, she sold it which was honestly a huge bummer. The house she bought is about 10 minutes from me, it's insanely nice
I thought the house she bought in RI is holiday house that she sings about on the last great American dynasty which she still owns
@@oliviaj7335yeah they said cape cod… which is not Rhode Island…
@oliviaj7335 Cape Cod is in MA not RI lmao
@@petalchild I know that but idk I thought the Kennedy compound was in RI
My life was never the same after discovering that the song “Starlight” is just a full on Kennedy fanfiction by Taylor swift
As a swiftie, I would like to say that during this period of time (and some others for that matter), Taylor swift had royally - and I cannot stress this enough - fucked up
Yep!!
yes
Yep let's not forget the fact she was 4 years older then him.
@@EvelynSalley-q1uis that supposed to be a bad thing?
@@nawrr7438yes, that's what fucked up means 😊
Nicole making a chroncially online girl video about a well-known poltical family before making one about trisha paytas was not on my 2024 bingo card.
Tbf frenemies was like half Trisha lol
thank u for talking about this it was SO FUCKING CREEPY and the pictures of her at his mom's grave make me DIE. like that's definition of predatory- swooping in when he's vulnerable, after dating his COUSIN?? all bc of her weird desire to be a kennedy... crazy
She dated his cousin too?
@@victoriaruiz4672 oh yes- his name was Patrick Schwarzenegger. she wanted to be a Kennedy so badly she family hopped. so creepy and disturbing, genuinely. it was all within the same summer, I believe. signing conor out from school and buying a house down the street is crazy behavior
im 23 and cannot imagine being friends with someone who’s 18, i used to teach AP geography to high school seniors last year, even at 21 and 22 i felt so far mentally from them and couldn’t like them like that because they’re literally still kids, living with their parents and going to school, we lead very different lives.
I don't think it's that weird. Dating? Yes, that's creepy. But friends...I am friends with people who are 18 or even younger (I'm 23) and also I have some older friends. It's more about if you have some common interests and you understand each other than where are you in life. And like I'm also kinda still living with parents and going to school...
Also we're all part of bigger friend group
I think the big part is who are they cus like here in school I'm 2 or 3 years older than most people in my school year and sometimes it feels like they're kids and I'm much older and then when I go to talk with my autistic friends or friends with similar personality or interests, I don't feel the age gap at all
@@ryanjohnson06doesn’t change the fact that she dated as a 22 years old superstar TEENAGER still in school right after he lost his mother solely because she was obsessed with his family.
@@reshell7338he was 18 bro chill out
@@reshell7338 right. its weird af. he was simply the most acceptable person she could date!
@@ryanjohnson06 soft pedofilia
I would LOOOVVVEEE for you to do a chronically online girl episode about the whole Dylan O'Brien, Gracie Abrams, Sadie Sink, and Sabrina Carpenter tea I've been seeing circulate around!!!!!
Oooohhhh what's the lore? Pls tell me! ❤
@@longlivelinzi I think there was some overlap of dylan dating gracie and sabrina. Gracie wrote one song about this on her latest album. Idk how Sadie is involved here.
@@muskaan3711 I think it's because Gracie sings "I wish that I didn't, but I know too much
You stranded Sadie and Sarah when they opened up" in one of her newer songs named 'cool' so a lot of people think she is implying that he was involved with sadie too.
Yes!!
@@Moi_muahif this is true, that’s crazy work considering she and him were in the atw10mv music video about a toxic relationship between an older guy and younger girl
i hate that people feel that they can’t say anything bad about taylor swift. i think all taylor swift fans myself included should be able to recognize that no one is above doing bad things and i think a 23 and 17 year old relationship is disgusting
He was 18 and she was 22. I think it was weird af, but only because his mom died. The age gap was legal. He was newly 18 and she was 22.
@@Pookie-v1m it's actually quite common for people to jump into new relationships after a loss. given that Taylor was flirting with Conor's cousin before she and Conor actually started dating, it's likely that the relationship was born out of Taylor's deep desire to become part of the Kennedy clan. people act like she preyed on a grieving teenager solely because of his vulnerability which is highly unlikely given what we know. however, I don't want to speculate too much on their relationship because we don't know if Conor or his family is comfortable with this kind of talk
Agreed
@@bree7750 as someone who jumped in a situationship right after grieve, that shit messed me up so much. Never a good idea. I actually thought the guy got advantage of my extreme vulnerability. It ruined my self confidence when I needed it the most. Terrible idea. But it does happen.
@@danielapardo9776 I'm sorry that happened to you. it definitely doesn't work for everyone. we all process things differently
00:11 your favorite Kennedy's favorite Kennedy
as a swiftie and a nicole raffie fan, I CLICKED ON SO FAST
You’re gonna be disappointed she doesn’t say good things about Taylor 😭
@@slendygameing7791 nah swifties know this wasnt good, and most of us know that taylor swift is not perfect all of the time, the loud ones just think that
@@ash-ok6dr literally as a swiftie i love taylor but not the extent of seeing her as my idol and that’s she’s perfect 💀
The people came in during apartment showings and just assumed she was a really really dedicated Swiftie
LMAOOO 💀💀
Please make one chronically girl explains Taylor Swift and Matty Heally relationship, that was INSANE
Yes pls!
Oh GOD I used to be obsessed with that song.. how am I just learning it was about "Bobby" Kennedy 😭 TAYLOR COME ON
LOL
What is wrong with Bobby Kennedy? Lol. He would’ve made a great president if he wasn’t shot. Literally pushed for the civil rights act passing in ‘64. Would say he was a great politician.
@existingdaily there's nothing wrong with Bobby, I just didn't realize I was singing a fan fiction to him and his wife lol
@@britneyshinault valid
seriously this series is my one source for almost every subject you speak about. like i never hear about these things anywhere else
If a woman I dated bought a house down the block to my family home I would lose my goddamn mind.
Soon to be senior in high school versus a college graduate is a nasty dynamic like pls why can’t celebrities leave the kids alone
He is part of a major political family and she is a famous person. That is not the same as a regular high school and college student
@@roselynnl13that’s not the point it’s still weird stop defending her
Justice for Rosemary Kennedy
This being swept under the rug and never talked about sure isn’t helping the “Swifties are a cult” accusations
as a swiftie from outside of philly and a chronically online girl I needed this
nicole idk if you've seen any of the rudy pankow drama but can you PLEASE make a chronically online girl explains about it?!? I have no idea what's going on and idk who to believe.
Also love u diva, u deserve everything good in the world
Wait what's happening
yessssssssssssssss
She responded to someone on twitter asking saying she was working on it
oh my god starlight was one of my favorite taylor swift songs when i was a kid and it’s about the KENNEDYS????
when i was younger i thought the line was “i’m a barbie on the boardwalk summer of ‘45” and i remember thinking “what? ew” when i found out it was actually “i met bobby”
I remember another youtuber did a video about weird age gaps in relationships and Taylor was one of the examples. They said something along the lines that Taylor must've thought the world was really gonna end in 2012 because she had like two relationships with barely legal boys during that time.
no wayyy, this is two universes colliding for me lol. ive been watching your videos since 2019 and taylor's music is one of my special interests
as a swiftie my heart skipped a beat when this uploaded
as a swiftie ive really blocked this out of my memory so seeing this video made me have a visceral reaction. she did NOT play around about her kennedy hyperfixation i fear
bae, i am patiently waiting on the obx deep-dive. sincerely, a fan.
As a swiftie, I’m actually happy to learn something about this, as I haven’t heard much about it. Love the video and i totally get your pov of Connor being a victim
how are you still saying youre a swiftie and in the nec=xt sentence alluding to the fact that she took advantage of someone
@@yasmeenkhan4060be fr people can still like someone even if they disagree with some of their actions
@@yasmeenkhan4060 if jake and john mayer are villains in her songs, im sure she can handle a bit of criticism babes.
@@imyoubutareyoume2582 “be fr”?? Grooming someone is way different than “some actions..” Like its not an iffy tweet its literally someones life
@@claire5711there is not justifiable way to interact with a 17 year old at 22 in a romantic context, pls get a grip and laugh at the silliness.
i truly do not care about any of these people but you know i am sat and watching for this one
i have an exam in 3 hours, this is a good way to spend my time
you upload at the PERFECT time
I remember being 22 and looking at 18 year old boys like preschoolers. It is strange she was interested in him. I love Taylor, don’t kill me. I can only think she was going through it, after Jake, breakup. She fell hard and fast into the Kennedy dream.
I also believe this. And not to justify her behavior, however, Jake was TEN years older than her. So for her to be in a brief relationship where she was four years older than Connor probably didn’t seem weird to her cause she was gaslit while she was with Jake. Hurt people hurt people, ya know?
Omg Chronically online girl post, clicked immediately :3
I am so extremely happy you made this🙏🙏 its so upsetting to see how people completely ignore and defend what happened to Conor.
Because Conor himself says his relationship w Taylor was Healthy and he still looks at her fondly
@ Im extremely confident most swifties don’t say thats why. The most common response is “Well she was in age gap relationships too” Furthermore, just because their relationship didn’t negatively impact him, it doesn’t negate her actions
@@claire5711yes!! i’m a taylor fan, but even if the relationship was healthy it doesn’t make it any less weird, it makes a little less weird but there is still a big age gap
@@daisydroiddoesn’t make it any less creepy, stop bootlicking
@@milkyphone269 literally what is wromg with a 2 month fling with a small age gap if it was healthy? People have become so militant about age gaps when the age gap itself is not actually an issue, it is just that age gaps can often create a power dynamic which can be maliciously exploited and then the age gap ois obvs bad. But if that exploitation doesn't take place then like.... an 18 year old dated a 22 year old for 2 months and it was not very deep, and that's it. idk why people wanna still talk about this it's been over a decade.
I went to high school with Conor, it was always so INSANE to hear that mega pop star Taylor Swift was dating a senior from our fucking high school. Like, the whole world knows Taylor Swift, but almost none know that she's a grown ass woman dating a senior at my school.
she was still a country singer at this point
11 minutes in was when I realised the wooden stick she was holding was indeed, not a long piece of baguette.
As a lifetime swiftie, there are three major incidents that we completely fault Taylor for: she cannot act we just support her in that endeavor, her dating Matt Healy and her relationship with Connor Kennedy which was not okay.
You should add how she treated Tom Hiddleston. It really felt like she used him then ran. Then she made fun of him in look what you made me do video(I ❤️ taylor swift t-shirt) and gorgeous song.
@@walkingtheline1729really not that deep
@@Dani-vu7em i doesn't need the deep for her to be in the wrong. Listen to getaway car she used him and ran.
I agree with 1 and 3 but her story with Matt Healy goes way before 2023, it starts in 2014. It is also rumored that some of the Folklore and Evermore song are about him. She already had feelings for him way before he partook in the racist thing.
@@walkingtheline1729 wasn’t he 10 years older than her
As a swiftie, I approve of this message!!
No but seriously, I had never even heard about any of this or the lore of starlight. It's definitely VERY questionable behavior, especially since his mother recently died. The whole situation seems very absurd honestly (it's so creepy to literally buy a house right next to your teenage boyfriend of one month). Happy to see that Connor is happy now tho
Also, don't stop calling out Taylor for the things that are actually weird or bad stuff. I hate the whole swiftie culture around "hating"(literally just critiqueing) her. No one is above judgement
BABE WAKEUP NICOLE MADE ANOTHER VIDEO *AND* ITS A CHRONICALLY ONLINE ONE
I love Taylor swift and happily went to the eras tour, but I have an 18 yr old daughter and I would be upset if she started dating a 22 yr old. She’s a senior in high school like what!?!?
these chronically online girl explains are always so in line with my current intrigues and it’s starting to get unnerving
every time i watch a nicole video, without fail, i get an ad about ocd
This is full-blown Saltburn what the fuuuuuck
😮😮😮
I still want the azealia banks chronically online video 🙃🙃🙃
omfg fr i need to know her insane lore
NICIOLE WE NEED CHRONICALLY ONLINE GIRL EXPLAINS OUTER BANKS DRAMA AND LORE PLS😭😭
not to rile up the swifties, but it makes sense that taylor swift is so open to perpetuating parasocial relationship when this is how she behaved with a celebrity family
But is she open to that?😅
I kind of thought that wooden stick was a baguette at first ,and now I’m low key a bit disappointed
was scrolling, saw this video and was FLABBERGASTED with the title as someone who casually listens to taylor swift
We thank you for being chronically online and pray you only descend deeper into its depths 🙏🙏
I thought he had at least graduated HS. Imagine you’re 23 and your boyfriend has to go back to high school
its like she knew i was on the verge of a mental breakdown while doing my homework
This was a weird way for me to find out the lyrics of Starlight aren’t “I’m a Barbie on the boardwalk summer of ‘45” 😂😅😅 I never looked them up and just assumed she was talking about how she looked like an OG Barbie from 1945 or something, but clearly I was wrong and I also just googled and Barbies didn’t come out until 1959 lmfaooo
i would LOVE a sabrina carpenter, chappell roan, olivia rodrigo, and adele deep dives!! i love u and what u post!
she did a chappell one, and a sabrina & olivia one!
girl i love your humor WTF !!! lots of love from brazil 💕💕
meu deus outro brasileiro aqui!!
we need a wicked chronically online girl video
okay, I had to comment, I loved the sponsor for this video! I want a video where you open all of the advent calendar plssssss
I always thought Taylor was mad creepy for this, but I didn't even know how bad it was. The summer house thing is nuuttsss
Taylor dating Harry Styles when she was 22 and he was 17 is also so weird, and no one ever talks about it. Whenever people discuss 1989 and the songs she wrote about him, they act like he was some grown man "treating her badly and not taking the relationship serious." But she was writing songs about a 17-year-old boy in the world's biggest boy band... like what did you expect???
Actually she dated him when he was 18, about 2 or 3 months before he turned 19. I’m not saying that isn’t weird but it’s less weird than with Connor.
theyre four years apart, not five
you making things up LMAOOO
The thing about people intepreting 1989 like that is that its just wrong. The album doesn't imply a serious relationship like that, it was a whirlwind romance that ended horribly, it didn't go well for either of them. People have no reading comprehension and ignore what she ACTUALLY says in her songs and just go harry/joe/matty/connor (matty actually bad tho) and don't listen to the substance of the song.
So true. A lot of people just ignore it cause haylor satisfies their pop culture obsession. BUT honestly how someone who is like college post graduate thinking dating a high school grad is fine?? like come onnnn and writing songs like that too? AND GOING ON STAGES AND TRYING TO GET HIS ASS ON NATIONAL TV? I feel bad for how much harry had to endure. Major YIKES.
I'm a Taylor Swift fan and omg I so agree!!!! It was a wild and really not okay!!
Next vid: chronically online girl explains cowboy &clementine lore ( like a self-satire about your cats because you’re really good at the tongue-in-cheek humor vibes and also I low key want to know their stories ❤)
Also it’s crazy AF that she groomed another boy again and it was HARDY FREAKING STYLES . Like he had barely turned 18 too & this was not to long after this relationship with Connor .
Just … gross
bumpin that chronically online girl content
Amazing vid! Also as a Taylor Swift fan a chronically online girl video about the MissKingBean (?) theory would be so fun to see
I personally think she may have not seen an issue between her and Conors' age gap because she had been in much more drastic of age gap relationships (like John Mayer, 13 years & Jake gyllenhaal, nearly 10 years) which might make the situation better or worse, probably worse. I’m able to say that a 23 year old and a high school senior dating is weird and gross as a die-hard swiftie.
Pretty sad bc people generally expect those who were abused to then not abuse others themselves … but ofc we all know it happens, esp if you haven’t processed the abuse or mistreatment. Still gross though, agree with what you said.
It’s not okay to excuse abuse or victimization, no matter who does it. I believe anyone who commits abuse must atone to their victim & other victims in whatever way the survivor wants
@@ambriaashley3383 thats usually how people become abusers in the first place, they were abused too. thats why its so important to talk about it and be able to recognize grooming because otherwise the cycle is just gonna continue
@@spookeymo ok but she’s not an abuser💀 she made a bad choice, but the age gap isn’t that bad. He was an adult. He was 18, she was 22. I think the worst part is that she was obsessed with his fam. It’s weird, but people should move the hell on. Like it’s not illegal, just dumb af. Let’s not throw the term abuser around pls and thx
I know a 27 year old that just married a 19 year old… and nobody in their families say anything because it’s not their business, but this is outrage online. I think people need to be as willing to confront abusers they know as they are to criticize the ones they don’t. I don’t know why we are so sure that something is wrong on the internet but the second it’s two people you know, all of a sudden we don’t know everything and it’s not our place to intervene.
Im a huge swiftie but definetly there was A LOT I didnt knew, thanks nikki loveu
Thank you for the critical thoughts on Taylor swift!! I’m so tired of it ALWAYS having to be good things this was so nice to see
but if it came out that a 22 year old man dated taylor swift while she was in high school, the internet would've gone wild
Taylor Swift was with John Mayer when she was 19 and he was 32 or with Jake Gyllennhaal when she was 20 and he was 29.
Thats like so much worse because the Gap is insane and I dont remember that there were a lot of people going crazy. The blame was more put on Taylor for making Songs about her relationships
@ how is being an adult AND out of high school worse than her dating a kid right after his mother died, yall will defend this woman to the ends of the earth
@@henkagomez The Kid also was 18 when they dated. Yes He was in high school but He was one year Younger than her when she got in a relationship With a man who was 13 years old than her. So how was she a full grown adult with 19 and He was a Kid with 18?
And yes that relationship was absolutely questionable and also her behaviour. But the Internet then Didnt Care so much about age Gap Relationships. Today would be a total different Story No matter If a men or a Woman IS doing the grooming. That was my Point.
@ did you not watch the video and just came to defend her name in the comments? first of all they dated when he was 17 not 18 and she was 22 and those 2-5 years out of high school make a big difference. she groomed him for gods sake. he’d just lost his mother and she was a person of notoriety why must y’all defend her to the ends of the earth before admitting what she’s done.
@henkagomez I Literally Said that the relationship was very questionable but that was Not the Point of your First comment. Your comment was about that you think that Nobody really cared because it was a women grooming a high schooler and If the roles we're Reversed everyone would be saying Something. And I Made my Point saying that Back then These age Gap/grooming relationships were Not Seen as problematic as today No Matter If a man or a Woman did the grooming. And I used the perfect example of Taylor Swift herself because she was on both Sides in different problematic Relationships.
Taylor Swift dated Conor Kennedy when he was 17 and She was 23. She picked him from School for date, crashed his cousin's wedding uninvited and refused to Leave when they asked her, bought a house next to his house in just one weeks, All of these things happened when his Mother passed away by suicide. This is just creepy. Also Harry Styles was 18 and She age was 23. These Two guys also dumped her. LOL.
Taylor swift has always been predatory in most of her relationships. So many of her boyfriends were either minors or freshly turned 18 and it’s extremely inappropriate PERIOD. if swiftys wanna try to defend that, you need to start defending every other creep adult who dates teens too. If someone like Drake can be called a pedophile publicly for (as far as the public knows) just texting multiple teenagers, then Taylor doesn’t just get a pass bc you like her corny music. It’s hypocrisy and it’s gross how little you guys actually care for victims or protecting teenagers bc when it comes to your fav it “doesn’t matter”
I feel that we as a society let RFK breeze past whalegate too quickly
as a swiftie, i apologise for the crazy "swifties" out there who dont see how this relationship was an issue
tay has been in so many weird relationships its acually insane, i just try to separate the music from weird shit like that
love ts and love u nicole!
Stop the ICarly comparison actually helped me gauge the relationship pretty well 😭😭 I’m so proud that you and Miranda could squash the beef after she stole ur car
I've been intrigued by this topic for a bit, thanks for uploading this Nicole!
Lmaooo I forgot all about this crazy shiet in the Taylor Swift lore. Thank you.
As a Taylor Swift fan, I'm so excited for this video!!
it’s like she knew i needed a bedtime story
this is what was on the wall when u had ppl viewing the apartment omg
Talking about Mary Kennedy and her mental health, Mary found RFK jrs journal in which he wrote down the 37 women he cheated on her with and told her sisters that if anything were to happen to her they should send it to the press. She did so much good, she did not deserve a marrige to a man like him
i’ve started to feel like i’m living in an alternate reality with the whole not being allowed to have an opinion on TS thing so thank you for mentioning that out loud 😭😂
We wouldn’t be so defensive about her if it weren’t for the fact that a lot of the world hate us and bash one of our favorite artists in front of us ALL the time. It’s grates on you after a while 🫤
@ i hate to break it to you but the number of ppl who love her greatly outweighs the ppl who don’t. criticism is allowed & nobody is exempt so for you to jump on the throat of anyone who says _anything_ ab her that’s not worship is actually out of touch.
@@pixie9499 I never said criticism isn’t allowed. I even have my own criticisms of her. But I hate to break it to you that just because her fans may outweigh her haters, unlike most artists her haters are very LOUD. You can go on a comment section of a video, or TikTok, or reel or anything that has nothing to do with Taylor, and someone will find a way to drag her in the comments. Being most loved also comes with being most hated. The reason you don’t see fans of other artists being defensive is because they don’t have haters that are as loud and astounding as Taylor haters are. Also, us Swifties are often categorized with the most extreme of us. Most of us aren’t jumping down peoples throats for having a valid opinion. I’m wasn’t trying to attack you for your comment. I was just simply trying to give you another POV.
@@Ava_Lynn7you don't need to defend that whore lmao she's rich and one of the most influential ppl out there
@@M95-t7cNo need to call people a whore that's not really necessary just because she has dated a lot in her life doesn't make her that word and if it does why not call men that to??
As a swiftie, I literally didn’t know this I was too young to know any of this drama when it was happening I guess. Pretty problematic and I’m glad you’re talking about it!
finally, something i have always wondered explained
Taylor dating someone in high school is gross. As someone who was "dating" a 23 year old man at 17, it's not good! It's not wholesome!
before you move you could find a loose floorboard or a hiding space and dump all your past photos for the next resident to find
I’ve always thought the lyrics were “I’m a Barbie on the boardwalk”😂 did NOT realize the history of this song