I was happy to hear you mention the FeelFree Moken series. The Moken 12.5 V2 paddle version was my first kayak and I feel you get a ton of bang for your buck with that kayak.
Thanks for not completely dismissing the Moken series kayaks. I really do feel like the V2 models are a good deal for the price new. Unless you could pick a used one up for a couple hundred Id probably pass on a used one because they’re inexpensive new and there are definitely better options in the used market. I would stay away from the first gen moken models though because they are very prone to cracking the hull where the seats rest in the sides of the hull. The V2 models have an aluminum slide track to disperse weight better to prevent cracking in the seat area.
I am surprised you didn't mention the Bonafide RS117. A great little kayak with a 425lb capacity and all of the extras. Also a kayak you mentioned before is the Jackson Yupik. You can get great deals on it and it paddles well. I finally got to try one. In any case another great video from you, as always!
@@josemirles4595 I only did 5. The SS can be had for less $ as it's been around longer. A lot more Bites out there on the used market than the Yupik but the Yupik is still a great option
@@Beyondthebite2024 any of them really. Flint for rivers Unlimited 10 for wide open deck space on slow moving rivers Unlimited 12.5 for open water Pursuit for speed on open water. Motor capability and pedal drive options for all of the above
Love your videos. I’ve watched just to stay in the know for a while now. I have a 106 pdl. My GF wants a prop or fin drive to use too. She says my 106 is too slow and hard to use so. How is the native slayer compared in drive speed and ease of use. I know they have a new lte out at some places. You think that type (I assume the speed is close or original slayer 10) might be a good option or just go for a hobie compass. If I’m getting a hobie I need reverse for fishing if I let a friend use use it.
Good list. Like someone else mentioned the Sea Ghost is good used. They are everywhere. Jackson Cuda’s are good too. The Tarpon is dated. That seat is rough. The Outlaw is a barge. I would take them off the list.
Tarpon is dated but it is cheap on the used market (typically). Also, people still try to get too much money out of the Outlaw but sometimes you can really find them cheap
I see alot 10 yr old Jacksons still in good shape that locals float around in. I'm going with a new Native Slayer Propel 10 early spring 2025. I see alot more decked out Hobies in Northern Ohio. Those are a nosiey water slapper lol
@thebeardedpaddler I look at the secondary market in Ohio is pretty lame compared to the neighboring states. I visited Arkansas and stopped by Lake Leatherwood. Why I didn't bring a kayak is beyond me. Beautiful state
I personally think pedal drives for lakes are still relevant. I use pedal drive in conjunction with motor. Paddle, pedal, and power are all used in different scenarios on a single outing. Paddle gets you off the shore and maneuvering in the shallow. Motor gets you to a location. Peddle keeps you in position while fishing, motor assist for higher speeds and lower current draw and back up to get you home in a motor or battery failure when traveling long distance.
It's doesn't matter, motorized, not motorized, pedal, or paddle. If your getting out there, and you find enjoyment and relaxation or psychological benefit, then that's all that matters, so long as you get out and back safely. That being said, I have one oldtown pdl, and and oldtown autopilot with a second motor on the back. Best of both. Both are great!
Agree, all very good choices for lakes and rivers. Just comes down to what you plan to do with it. Keep it going.
Thank you for watching
I was happy to hear you mention the FeelFree Moken series. The Moken 12.5 V2 paddle version was my first kayak and I feel you get a ton of bang for your buck with that kayak.
Absolutely
Good video! I’m planning to keep an eye on used kayaks over the next few months.
@@southwestindianaoutdooradv4714 thank you
Thanks for not completely dismissing the Moken series kayaks. I really do feel like the V2 models are a good deal for the price new. Unless you could pick a used one up for a couple hundred Id probably pass on a used one because they’re inexpensive new and there are definitely better options in the used market.
I would stay away from the first gen moken models though because they are very prone to cracking the hull where the seats rest in the sides of the hull. The V2 models have an aluminum slide track to disperse weight better to prevent cracking in the seat area.
@@mumbles1justin agree
I bought a used Feelfree Moken over 3 years ago. One thing to look for is damage around the wheel in the keel housing.
Moken 12.5 V2 paddle version was my first kayak. It was a great all around boat and affordable.
Vibe Seaghost is a great kayak. Yellowfin even better for open floor. Native Mantaray propel is fast and nimble.
All good kayaks. Sometimes hard to find them though. Great thought Andy 👊😎
Very true
I am surprised you didn't mention the Bonafide RS117. A great little kayak with a 425lb capacity and all of the extras. Also a kayak you mentioned before is the Jackson Yupik. You can get great deals on it and it paddles well. I finally got to try one. In any case another great video from you, as always!
@@josemirles4595 I only did 5. The SS can be had for less $ as it's been around longer. A lot more Bites out there on the used market than the Yupik but the Yupik is still a great option
I appreciate the info. Im strongly wanting a NuCanoe. Just waiting for my turn.
It's a strong brand that takes care of their customers. Can't go wrong with them
which one?
@@Beyondthebite2024 any of them really.
Flint for rivers
Unlimited 10 for wide open deck space on slow moving rivers
Unlimited 12.5 for open water
Pursuit for speed on open water.
Motor capability and pedal drive options for all of the above
@@thebeardedpaddler awesome, thank you
Recently scored myself an RVR with an Anchor wizard used less than 5 times for $900
WOW
Love your videos. I’ve watched just to stay in the know for a while now. I have a 106 pdl. My GF wants a prop or fin drive to use too. She says my 106 is too slow and hard to use so. How is the native slayer compared in drive speed and ease of use. I know they have a new lte out at some places. You think that type (I assume the speed is close or original slayer 10) might be a good option or just go for a hobie compass. If I’m getting a hobie I need reverse for fishing if I let a friend use use it.
Compass will be faster for sure. Haven't seen the LTE yet but the lighter fishing kayaks tend to sacrifice the weight capacity
A ton of Nucanoe on the market here in Washington, can get a Flint in great shape for about $600
Thats about what we are seeing here as well
I have one for $600, but it's a 4-5 years old model, and the seat must be changed. IS this a good deal and is flint good for lakes?
Just wondering the reason for not mentioning a used Hobie. Thanks!
Hobies are great but can be expensive even used. Can also be hard to find parts
Just got a hooboo impulse 120 used
hope it is good to you!
I’ve been looking for a used Outlaw but they seem to want a ton for them near me.
Plenty of them out there. Be patient and you will see some fair prices
Good list. Like someone else mentioned the Sea Ghost is good used. They are everywhere. Jackson Cuda’s are good too. The Tarpon is dated. That seat is rough. The Outlaw is a barge. I would take them off the list.
Tarpon is dated but it is cheap on the used market (typically). Also, people still try to get too much money out of the Outlaw but sometimes you can really find them cheap
Warranty considerations? I know Old Town does not transfer to second owner.
If you are needing warranty, used is definitely not the way to go.
I see alot 10 yr old Jacksons still in good shape that locals float around in. I'm going with a new Native Slayer Propel 10 early spring 2025. I see alot more decked out Hobies in Northern Ohio. Those are a nosiey water slapper lol
Lol. Older Jackson's held up better than some of the newer ones you could argue
@thebeardedpaddler I look at the secondary market in Ohio is pretty lame compared to the neighboring states.
I visited Arkansas and stopped by Lake Leatherwood. Why I didn't bring a kayak is beyond me. Beautiful state
Thanks for completely ignoring the ocean going expedition class.
Thanks for watching
I would think many of the pedal drive kayaks would be up for sale. With motorized kayaks getting extremely popular.
At what point does it stop being a kayak when it's motorized? At that point it's a small bass boat.
I think that is true to an extent. There will be quite a few of them out there for a good price
I personally think pedal drives for lakes are still relevant. I use pedal drive in conjunction with motor.
Paddle, pedal, and power are all used in different scenarios on a single outing.
Paddle gets you off the shore and maneuvering in the shallow.
Motor gets you to a location.
Peddle keeps you in position while fishing, motor assist for higher speeds and lower current draw and back up to get you home in a motor or battery failure when traveling long distance.
It's doesn't matter, motorized, not motorized, pedal, or paddle. If your getting out there, and you find enjoyment and relaxation or psychological benefit, then that's all that matters, so long as you get out and back safely. That being said, I have one oldtown pdl, and and oldtown autopilot with a second motor on the back. Best of both. Both are great!