Overweight landing. Finnair Airbus A333 is unable to retract the landing gear. New York, Real ATC

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
  • THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
    04-MAR-2023. A Finnair Airbus A330-300 (A333), registration OH-LTM, performing flight FIN16 / AY16 from New York John F. Kennedy International Airport, NY (USA) to Helsinki-Vantaa Airport (Finland) after departure reported that they were unable to raise the landing gear up and requested return to the airport of departure. The crew also reported their intentions to make an overweight landing. After that the air traffic controller rolled out the emergency equipment to meet the airplane after landing.
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Description of situation
    00:17 Initial climb. The crew reported the problem
    01:04 Finnair 16 reported intentions to make an overweight landing. Vectors.
    03:27 FIN16 is ready for approach
    04:53 The crew of Finnair 16 contacted Tower controller
    05:39 Landing
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    THE VALUE OF THIS VIDEO:
    THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
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    Text version of communication - Made by Author.
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    HOW I DO VIDEOS:
    1) I monitor media, airspace, looking for any non-standard, emergency and interesting situation.
    2) I find communications of ATC unit for the period of time I need.
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    5) I make an animation (early couple of videos don’t have animation) of flight path and aircraft, where the aircraft goes on his route.
    6) When I edit video I put phrases of communications to specific points in video (in tandem with animation).
    7) Together with my comments (voice and text) I edit and make a reconstruction of emergency, non-standard and interesting situation in flight.

Комментарии • 31

  • @WBDE
    @WBDE Год назад +24

    It is such a treat to hear a foreign pilot speaking good English and an ATC who speaks slowly and clearly

    • @mountains889
      @mountains889 Год назад +1

      But irritating ATC can't convert kilos to pounds

    • @voihiivatti
      @voihiivatti 14 дней назад +1

      Finnish people (especially young people) are pretty good at speaking English these days and will be in the future. The social media in Finland is not that big so basically everyone listens and watches in English so they are developing good English.

    • @RoyalMela
      @RoyalMela 5 дней назад

      @@voihiivatti Finland has been great english speaking nation for decades.

  • @MattyEngland
    @MattyEngland Год назад +30

    She wasn't overweight, she's just big boned.

  • @erachel1999
    @erachel1999 Год назад +7

    THE PILOT HAS A LOVELY ACCENT!

  • @hanswind724
    @hanswind724 Год назад +11

    As a Finn, I was expecting the accent to be much thicker, nicely done nonetheless.

    • @incremental_failure
      @incremental_failure Год назад +1

      Normally that's the case but these guys flying intercontinental are their best of the best.

  • @appeplays
    @appeplays 5 месяцев назад +2

    You know finniar 16 heavy is super unoucky with the landing gear because i just saw another video of another finnair 16 heavy having the same problem bit that one was an a350-900

  • @why400
    @why400 Год назад +26

    I was so happy when the ATC accepted it in kilograms

    • @YouCanSeeATC
      @YouCanSeeATC  Год назад +1

      🙂👍😎

    • @N1120A
      @N1120A Год назад

      They always do. The issue was that he didn't hear him the first time. The standard quick calculation of 2.2 lbs/kg is easy enough.

  • @daytonahypnosis
    @daytonahypnosis Год назад

    Anyone know anything about AJT8741 and NKS3167 at MIA on 2/12 at 22:50Z?

  • @incremental_failure
    @incremental_failure Год назад +1

    2:10 Pilot said "We're going to stay in proximity".

  • @catguy00
    @catguy00 Год назад +2

    Probably a stupid question but what would have happened if they continue the flight with the protracted landing gear? Would it just impact flight speed?

    • @max_libin
      @max_libin Год назад +6

      It would prevent an airplane to gain speed -> vertical speed -> altitude and will require even more fuel burn because of the wind resistance of the landing gear.

    • @incremental_failure
      @incremental_failure Год назад +9

      More fuel required, they would run out of fuel mid-atlantic I think.

    • @N1120A
      @N1120A Год назад +2

      It would significantly increase fuel burn, while simultaneously significantly decreasing cruise speed and max altitude. They might have made it to Greenland, but why do that? Also, it would have been really loud.

  • @cubatea
    @cubatea Год назад +2

    Honest question. Why were they given the shorter 31 runway when they were overweight?

    • @MarkRose1337
      @MarkRose1337 Год назад +3

      31R is still a long runway at 10,000 ft or 3048 m.

    • @mikkotuomi7884
      @mikkotuomi7884 Год назад

      @@MarkRose1337 LDA is just over 9000ft for 31R.

    • @N1120A
      @N1120A Год назад

      They could have asked for 31L if they needed it.

  • @edanalytics9336
    @edanalytics9336 Год назад

    Scaaandinavian Bob Here Hi

  • @ddiisskkss3793
    @ddiisskkss3793 Год назад +1

    Why did they not take 31L since it’s longer

    • @N1120A
      @N1120A Год назад

      Probably because they didn't need it.

    • @RoyalMela
      @RoyalMela 5 дней назад

      @@N1120A And in case of emergency, they did not have to risk their longer departure runway. Planes need longer distance to takeoff compared to landing.

  • @hasuuuu
    @hasuuuu Год назад +4

    Deja vu

  • @don2face
    @don2face Год назад

    Is it normal to pronounce remaining fuel in poounds? i kinda feel like the americans just keep hating the metric system. Hilarious when the captain says can only say kilos!

  • @BloxyGamezAV
    @BloxyGamezAV Год назад +1

    Pin