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Your productions are always so detailed in their execution and research. This, as it happened in India, holds secial interest. And it was good to see your team get to the finer nitty-gritties of getting the animations right. . Of-course you stopped of being too critical on the way the investigations or the half hearted final report went. But frankly, your viewers can always take.. and rather look forward to your critique.
I was fully expecting the controller to have made a mistake when his working conditions were described. I'm amazed one person could juggle all those flights on limited information and still do their job properly.
@@rishabagarwal3628yeah sadly, with many things people are pushed to their limits until something bad happens and then the people in charge realise efficiency should not always be the ultimate goal
I felt so bad for the controller when I first heard of this accident. He did everything right and managed the situation beautifully, but in the end it was all out of his hands.
As soon as they quickly cleared him of any wrong doing, controller VK Dutta went straight back to work in the air traffic control tower; he had a family for which to provide.
A truly tragic incident. Simulations would later show that, had the Kazakh crew realized their error a few seconds AFTER they actually did, the incident could have been avoided. They had gotten so low that they would have flown under the Saudi jet. RIP.
imagine if it didn't happen though, Delhi or any other place would have to witness yet another mid air collision to install proper atc equipment and tcas
@@crypton7572 With such a narrow air space for incoming and outgoing aircraft with no one way system its a wonder to me why Delhi airport authorities didn't space planes laterally as well as the normal vertical spacing to increase the safety of what was a dangerous and congested airspace especially considering some of their traffic had no altimeter readouts.
If they hadn't realized their error AT ALL everyone on board both planes would have been alive..Until another flight / Russian Rulette New Delhi approach & take off incidence and history would have just been delayed. RIP and Thank God all aftermath measures were taken - It was just unlucky that this collision occurred between big planes / heavy traffic with plenty of passengers - it could have been with much smaller planes with far less passengers or between cargo's.
@@chatteyj reseaechd on this crash a bit and I just found out that from articles dating from 1996or before, there have been TONS of near misses in that narrow airspace, this accident was BOUND to happen, the Kazakh pilots are the scapegoat, the real blame are the authorities in this crash
I've seen this unfortunate incident ... the worst mid air crash. I was around 6 yo, and was playing on the terrace when I saw huge flames touching the skies towards the right, a few miles away. It was like a burning hell. As a kid, I was scared. Next morning, it was all over tv and people were rushing towards the spot. Irony is, how living people turn into just non-living beings in just moments, and with them, burn their hopes and dreams!!
Oh my goodness, that must have been so traumatic and I am sure you are still living with the results. What we need t remember s that our lives are short an we only have one. Let us please God make the most of it. All blessings to you xx
When I was 16, (6 days from my 17 birthday). I was standing outside talking to my mom. Sept 9, 1969, a DC-9, collided in mid-air with a Piper PA-28 light aircraft near Fairland, Indiana. We saw it in the sky but wasn’t sure what was happening, but the air filled with a horrible smell. It burned my eyes & nose. The fuel from the plane. It was horrible but it didn’t affect me like the sight of the mangled piece of plane on a flat bed truck that drove past our school a few days later. There were two giant trucks with the sun glistening off the silver parts of the plane. That sight is burned in my memory. Our home room class silently stood and walked to the windows. No one spoke. After we could no longer see it we sat down. No one spoke, I had to fight the tears. I’m not sure but I think over 70 people died. And crash was in a field right next to a mobile home park. The kids saw it! It was horrible.
There's a phrase in various areas of regulation: "The rules are written in blood." It's unfortunate that more industries aren't equipped with the foresight needed to put in place practices like this before they happen
@@animula6908 foresight fixes more issues than just workplace safety ones. And human beings can be reckless, negligent, impulsive, ignorant, and otherwise problematic which creates the need for pretty much all laws we have. If human beings didn't create issues, other humans wouldn't need to put restrictions in place.
@@0xGRIDRUNR that’s not always a factor. In US military aviation, the men and women operating the aircraft aren’t doing it for a board or shareholders, but accidents still happen. The passengers aren’t faceless travelers, but instead are usually fellow service members who’ve grown into a sort of family together, and genuinely love one another. Still, they lose their lives in terrible accidents from time to time. The NATOPS, NAMP and other governing documents of naval aviation are always said to be written in blood. We don’t always know what we don’t know.
This incident brings back old memories. I was meant to be on the Kazakh flight with my family but we had postponed our flight to Delhi a week later a few days before the incident. Back then flights from Almaty to Delhi were only running weekly. Counting my blessings since then.
I started watching this and my dad (who has been in all 3 positions of the 747-200, and in the area this incident occurred in) overheard and got sucked in and was impressed by the quality of the video and that he’d never heard of this incident. (The same goes for me but I know your videos are always top notch- they are much appreciated! )
I was an air traffic controller in the army for 6 years. I love this channel but I can never make it threw a video without a break because they just give me so much anxiety. These videos are the thoughts that kept me awake at night.
My dad did air traffic control and he said it was some of the most stressful stuff he’s ever experienced. And this man was married to my “mother,” so, that’s saying something. Edit: in the Air Force I mean, he did air traffic control
@@humayrafaizah1428but SubhanAllah, it really brought a tear to my eyes as to how beautifully yet sorrowfully he remembered Allah in his last few moments. May Allah grant us all beautiful endings like this and Aso give all the believers who died in the process Jannatul Ferdous
Well this depends on the quality of the infrastructure and the flight length. You can still see pilots having issues in Africa today, where the infrastructure is pretty poor. No radar, sometimes no radio contact for half an hour and if GPS would fail they would have to rely on pretty spotty radio beacon navigation points.
One thing you didn’t mention in this video: There was a 3rd aircraft in the airspace at the time of the accident - a US Air Force plane, commanded by Captain Timothy J Place, approaching New Delhi. Captain Place would later testify that he saw “an orange glow” in a cloud, and two fireballs fell out from the cloud. Another thing you forgot to mention: It was later determined that, had the Kazakh crew NOT attempted to climb back to 15k feet, they would have slipped below the Saudi aircraft.
It was the fault of the Kazakhs because they did not speak English and did not adhere to the instructions of the air traffic controller. Unlike the giant Saudi plane, Boeing 747, they were well trained and adhered to the instructions of the air traffic controller.
if the kazakh plane didn't climb they will get caught in the wake turbulence and will make the plane uncontrollable and probably going to crash, which is a slightly better outcome than getting both plane crash into each other
There’s an interview of one of the ATC controllers from Delhi from that time where he’s talking about how flights from ex Soviet (then CIS) countries regularly used to fly higher or lower than the assigned altitude, this crash was a ticking time bomb.
@@thetej1098 this channel doesn’t allow you to post links but search “Charkhi Dadri mid-air collision wildfilms India” it’s a 4 min news clip speculating about the reasons behind the crash.
@ad_2211 That's the Indian perspective trying to put the blame on Soviet aircraft. That's washing their hands clean free of guilt. That's what you call BIAS.
As an Indian born just about a month before this incident took place, I was always told that it was the fault of the kazakh aircraft. I didn't know that our aviation infrastructure was so bad back then. These days the infrastructure has changed a lot, and are still improving. Thank you for covering this case. Take love. ❤
Sadly, in our part of the world, things remain stagnant, change is resisted, and new technologies are not adopted unless they are guaranteeing a monetary return. It eventually requires serious incident like this to set things in motion.
@@n3ov there is no "in our part of the world" here. Every rule and regulation all over the world is written in blood, do you think these crashes due to poor infra happened only in eastern part of the world?
@@debetrolence1991 No. But they are a hell of a lot more common in that part of the world BECAUSE of the outdated and old infrastructure that's kept due to government bean counter choices, ineptitude, and outright corruption. All things that occur in the first world to varying degrees but seem to statistically happen a lot more in 2nd to 3rd world.
any crash involving a 747 is always sad because of how many people are onboard, especially if no one survived the crash, ATC and the Saudi crew did everything right, ATC instructed the planes to fly with 1,000ft seperation, the Saudi crew stayed at 14,000 as instructed but the other crew kept descending, only stopping just before colliding, had they continued they would have passed each other
@@allnighter2011Actually the 1996 wasn't a good year cause both Indian and Pakistani in a tense situation, both Pakistan and India had tested nukes in previous year and military build up where camouflage to hide the underground nuclear test that lead them to make a narrow pass like that
@@kiyotakaaynokoji9387 This is interesting information. I was led to believe by this video that the narrow pass was always the practice, but are you saying it was something that was introduced temporary in a time of military tension with Pakistan?
@@sphenoidjjj1k ft is the minimum and is acceptable. Why they didn't separate laterally who knows, but it's standard to fly on a single corridor line so who knows.
I like how the commentary is straight to the point. Some other well know channels waffle on for far too long to the point I end up switching it off and now don't bother with their videos.
As a Saudi, I’ve heard my parents and relatives talks about this accident many times and describe how bad it is, I remembered later this day and wondered how it happened, never thought it was this bad. Thank you for the detailed information, and may Allah(God) have mercy on their souls
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Let me help you : It is scarry yes , i am still scaried of flying , but as a Muslim i learned and saw many people around me die in many ways both in piece and pain .... You will die no matter what , just live your life as good as you can be , travel the world to see it and learn things about your self and others ... Live well ans be happy ❤
It seems crazy that they would have one way in and out . I'm more surprised it took so long for a collision to occur I would think they would use at least 3000 ft separation with such outdated equipment
In this air space lateral separation as well as the normal vertical should have been implemented I reckon. (To give a one way system) Having planes cross vertical airspace whilst hurtling towards each other at 1000km/h is just asking for trouble I think.
Hueginvieny; This is exactly what I was thinking as I watched this video. Early in my career I worked in the aviation industry and while I was not a controller, I worked with and for the controllers keeping their electronic equipment working properly. This gives me perhaps a better than average view into their work. I wonder if there was any reason the controller could not hold the Saudi aircraft at FL 100 (10,000 Ft.) for an additional minute or two and only clear them to FL 140 after they had passed under the Kazakh aircraft. If I was in the controller's place in such an undesirable airspace situation I would do all I could to arrange 3K or 5K ft of separation if I possibly could!
I think it's because 15k ft is the closest acceptable margin for both of the planes at the time because of the shitty small air space strip civilians had at the time If the kazakh plane were to fly at a higher altitude, they wouldn't have much room to rotate and descend without trespassing to the military zone But honestly, it was a ticking bomb all over because of outdated equipment, etc.
I’m a retired US MD, and I don’t know “Captain Green Dot,” (made up only with great respect, sir) the channel owner’s name, but I discovered your videos a few months ago as I enjoy aviation, SCUBA diving and other nonfiction videos. A favorite 1st cousin of mine was a Senior Captain and Flight Instructor for American. There are many flight video channels on YT, but I’m especially drawn to yours which I often find to be the best. Thank you so much for your fine work, and please carry on with many more. If you’re officially not a Captain yet, I gather you soon will be. All the best, Dr. J
So terrifying it happened above Delhi! I personally feel remorseful to everyone involved in this crash Especially in the former small Military and Civilian spaces which was really inappropriate for India. RIP 349 people of these two flights. Great video as always!
I have to say, the quality of your writing is what sets you apart from other RUclipsrs. The level of research is certainly up there, but I really appreciate your ability to write (and read) a script that is fluid and captivating, and you don't add unnecessary drama or exaggerate anything
Also, I like how you actually made an effort to pronounce the crew's full names properly. Most people wouldn't attempt it and would just stick to a first name or captain (initial)
The quality of your videos are unmatched. I've seen a lot of aviation channels, none of them come close to what you got. I love you how you add tons of visuals that help recreate the whole incident. Keep up this style of videos, it'll get you far. I subbed when you had around 83k subs, i'm so happy to see your channel growing to what it is now.
Your content is genuinely so good. Me and my boyfriend binge watched all of your videos in the span of like, 3 days. Very well thought out, organized, and honestly I don’t know why you’re not THE channel of airplane documentaries on RUclips yet tbh. Good stuff
That prayer gave me chills and tears 😢🙏 What an incredibly stupid infrastructure, and what about having just one person in ATC handling everything by himself relying only on conversations? It just baffles me! Very detailed video, thank you!
AND THANK YOU for showing the face (also known as the HUMAN) behind the show. I appreciate that there's someone behind the microphone who researches and works out to the best of his (and/or her) ability the details to get this great content together for us, the audience... rather than there being an AI that copy-pastes someone's work in various forms and just spits out new content over and over... SO thanks for being you. I know this doesn't sound like much of a big deal, but it is. Keep doing what you do. ;o)
I watched a live feed of this channel once and was shocked at how young the narrator is. His intelligence and gravitas is superb. He completely blows away anything you'd get on the TV
This was excellent. I was aware of this accident but I have never heard such a detailed analysis of what went wrong to cause it. Thanks for another outstanding presentation.
So very wisely put when you mentioned the crew not working together and that "not my problem" should NEVER be an issue! A team is just that, a team. Working together for a successful outcome. Great video! Thank you!! ❤
Another absolutely stellar documentary. The detail you went into about the origins of these passengers and what was going on in many of their daily lives brought a whole new angle to this story I've never heard, making it feel all the more harrowing, personal and emotional. You completely nailed it once again dude!
A reinforcing "I second that motion" to all the previous comments, aka compliments! Stunned that this didn't occur more frequently, so kudos to previous ATC teams. And a relatively new Russian a/c being technically behind the times, no revelation there. But I have to give 👍 to India for mandating TCAS & fixing other shortcomings relative to a Delhi approach. You grease the wheel that squeaks the loudest, and ATC needs to always be that wheel! Lives depend on it always be heard. Great job with the analysis and production, you continue to be refreshing to watch - even if I've already seen the event. You're #1 in my book!
Absolutely love this channel, I've watched every single video you've put out now! The emphasis on the technical side and the human side of accidents always seems so genuine, objective, and empathetic to the people dealing with these emergencies that I very rarely feel blame towards any one person. you always clarify it was a series of issues, and the whole of the situation that caused the incident. I think a lot of disaster documentaries can get very blame oriented and kinda try to get you to feel angry at the people involved, I've only felt that once here with that guy who decided a radio station was a fine navigation tool and forgot about where the sun was supposed to be 😭 Also the only channel i've seen to cover near misses and non lethal accidents which are such victory stories. The listing of changes recommended and implemented is such a nice ending to the videos, it makes you feel like it wasn't all for nothing and good rules were put in place to prevent similar accidents. great work as always man i can't wait to see what you're able to do with a VFXs employee!!
@@silvermainecoons3269 Visual Effects (Fx) ! i believe the current videos use a flight sim to show off the inside of the plane and standard editing to add effects like highlighting buttons in the cockpit and smoke effects where relevant, a dedicated visual effects person would have the technical know-how and time to make more complicated edits!
I like how the Saudi Arabian pilot uttered the Shahada before his demise. For those who are not familiar shahada is a declaration of faith just before death. May Allah grant him and all the crew Jannah.
I can't help but wonder if Delhi would still be just one dude in the tower fighting to keep aeroplanes apart if it hadn't have been for this terrible event. Thank you for a brilliant and dare-I-say, harrowing presentation.
One could say that about pretty much all of aviation. The rules and safety manuals and checklists are written in blood. Right now Delhi is set to have 2 of the largest airports in Asia. But less than 30 years ago it was a very different story. I remember reading about this accident when I was in a kid in school. Can't forget one line in the papers that said something like the sky lit up and a huge ball of fire came crashing down into a field.
@@animula6908 So, ATCs are critical safety personnel. ...If any given critical safety personnel have too high a workload, we should **never** hire more people. Instead, we need to wait until the inevitable happens and people 💀⚰️🪦 because the overworked critical safety personnel make a mistake. The deceased people will be our indicator that we need to hire more critical safety personnel. Is this the argument you really wanted to go with?
The Saudi plane went on the radio and asked god to forgive everyone for what had happened. It is, in effect, him saying he did not blame anyone. I am not a religious person, but it has brought a tear to my eye. He did not have to transmit this, yet he thought to do so. May everyone involved in this accident rest in peace.
You maybe right, but im an arab Muslim and the was i see it that he said out of instinct and nature, i and most Muslims will say prayers whenever we are shocked, so i think the same happened to him, or that he was seeking forgiveness from allah for all the sins he may have sinned before he couldn't anymore
Even though it wasn't the controller's fault I can't imagine how guilty he must've felt, or how terrifying it must've been for the crew watching the other plane get closer in their last moments, realising it was too late.
It's not great, but even if they had 10 people in the control tower it likely wouldn't have changed anything. It was a policy issue, requiring planes to fly along the exact same route, separated only by altitude. Additionally, they failed to install modern radar so the ATC couldn't determine the altitude of the aircraft.
In my opinion the blame is equal to both Kazakh piolet and Delhi airport for not having the necessary equipment and very narrow single corridor for inbound and outbound flights.
These videos are just so well made, you obviously put a lot of time and effort into researching for and making them, and you are such a good narrator, I was on the edge of my seat for the whole thing and I just had to know what was about to happen
That intro was poetic. Your videos keep getting more incredible. Keep up the awesome work man. I love getting to watch these, and oddly enough my puppy loves them too 😂
You’re right, the introduction was very creative. I loved the pyramid metaphor. My cat likes to watch aviation videos too, she loves the animation! It’s kind of funny, I can never predict which videos captivate her and which ones she couldn’t care less about. 😂😂
It was a very very tragic news when this incident happened , a lot of workers from India travel to Saudi Arabia to work and make extra money to send back home to family , Kazakhstan traders travel to nearby places for trading purposes , so sad 😢for all who perished in this air accident. Thank you for sharing this clip and I am sure it must have been difficult for you to put it altogether due to the nature of this insurmountable tragedy
What a terrible tragedy! It's unbelievable that no other collisions occurred at Delhi airspace. Even more unbelievable is that it took the deaths of over 300 people to effect change at this airport. Absolutely tragic and totally avoidable.
I don't enjoy, what's happening in your videos, but I enjoy the information without making something sensational out of these tragedies. And even for a German it is perfect to understand. So your videos are information and learning for me. Keep going on like this! ;)
Yeh I don't like flying at all, I grew up near Kegworth in the English Midlands where there was a crash landing that killed people. But I can't imagine anything more terrifying than a mid-air collision and being alive on the way down. Those poor people, may God have mercy on their souls. Safe travels 👍
Indian aviation safety is surprisingly alright, although most of their accidents happen on the landing phase if the journey last year indigo nearly had to write off an aircraft because it bounced on the runway
Great writing, I love the pyramid metaphor. I always enjoy your videos. There’s no cheesy re-enactments, and you always get right to the point. Older disaster documentaries always had to fill out each episode to an hour so they always added extraneous padding that was unnecessary and often boring. Your narration is very good too, clear and concise. I know nothing about aviation, you do a great job of making even the most complex topics easy to understand. Green Dot is my new go-to channel for aviation. Thank you! 😊
As a person born in kazakhstan, i can confirm that people here do not know english very much which was a huge negative in the kazakh plane, what a tragic incident.
Harrowing, it always upsets me hearing about aviation tragedies, but fantastic recounting as always. I feel particularly sad for the air traffic controller in this instance. They did everything right and everything they could, I just hope they didn't have blame shifted onto them, and that they didn't feel any personal responsibility for the incident 😭
I was booked on the Saudia flight! I was working in Saudi Arabia at the time and was due to accompany my boss to Dehli to recruit some workers. I resigned from the company just before the trip. Despite him asking me to accompany him during my notice period my boss subsequently decided to cancel the trip.
I understand the nature of the military airspace around the airport but surely controllers had room to even just slightly offset the headings of incoming and outgoing planes?
That's what I thought as well. I'm unaware of the minimum horizontal distance required between aircraft back in the day, but surely you could fit them through in 2 separate paths?
That's apparently what they started doing afterwards, so yes. You can't blame ATC, tho, not having that is a structural failure and lack of safety culture. The controller just pulled the short straw and was the one on duty when the inevitable happened.
@@screetchycello Not necessarily blaming ATC, just couldn't think of why they wouldn't add another degree of separation even in the relatively confined space. But thinking about it a bit more I realized that because of the old radar they had it was probably not possible to reliably vector the planes on parallel paths. They only had the two beacons to reference otherwise and vertical separation was the only realistic guarantee assuming the pilots played along. I do agree that this was inevitable though, its a shame so much positive change must come at so high a cost.
Truly sad. If the Captain and navigator both had altimeters that displayed feet, one wonders why the First Officer needed to rely on a conversion of feet to meters. Why not just have the Captain monitor the altitude from his altimeter? Excellent video, once again.
Seems to be the case of a poor cockpit design by not giving an altimeter to the radio operator station. This is quite odd because other Soviet era Ilyushin aircraft has an altimeter on their radio operator station but this particular IL-76 doesn’t
The captain was the one flying the plane and had an altimeter and acted confused when he was told he was not at the right height. wtf. Just massive amounts of negligence.
I've been working in aviation for over a year now, and that phrase you said really hit me hard "not my problem" I swear I get so pissed when I hear that at work, it goes as far as my colleagues telling me "it is not your problem why do you care"... so frustrating
@@death_parade Not difficult at all in my opinion. Small corridor for inbound and outbound at a very busy airport, no altitude reporting radar. And, there's no need to have all that airspace military only. That's just lazy.
@@JFirn86Q it's not lazy, are you dense? Atleast do your research, military airspace was enforced by the civilian government themselves because all the heads of the government sit in Delhi, with Stagnating power of the USSR, India had not received any major overhauls of their Air defence systems in Cities and thus had to rely on protection by the military itself to guard against airthreats from both China and Pakistan.
@@debetrolence1991 Dense?.. Pot calling the kettle black! There's an effective way to do exactly that without just claiming the entire country as "military air space" that is 99% of the time unused. Yes, it involves more work and control, but that's how it is normally done. Why do you think they reverted to this higher effort style after this accident?
I think in general, mid-air collisions as a threat aren't talked about enough. I'd consider myself as a bit of a nerd when it comes to air crashes in general and I have literally never heard of this, despite of its status as both the most deadly collision as well as one of the most deadly accidents in general. The only mid-air collisions I was familiar with were the Überlingen crash and the American Airlines 718 one. One sentence in regards to collisions that has always stuck with me and I believe it is from the German version of the Mayday episode about the Tenerife collision, said something along the lines of that it is telling that we have been pushing for bigger planes with more passengers for decades, without once considering what would happen if they'd come together and how that speaks for the fact that the human mind can ignore potential risks and dangers of one's actions, if only the benefits are big enough. Love, your videos man, what can I say. For years now I have been looking for a RUclips channel which doesn't just create a bad copy of all the Mayday episodes and I have watched through your whole channel over the last week or 2. Your selection of topics is amazing and has shown me many incidents (like this one) that I was previously unaware of and even if you cover a topic that has been done by Mayday before, you always manage to put a new spin on it and to deliver an exciting video, even if the topic isn't new to the viewer. For example with SA295 you went into detail about the political climate in South Africa and how pilots were more or less forced to put their passengers at risk, as well as how the specifics of the cargo impacted the decisionmaking of the pilot. Glad you are doing this and happy to see the production quality increasing with every video as well. Keep doing what you are doing and thank you for your content.
Mid air collisions are pretty rare maybe that's why the last fatal mid air collision happened in 2006 when an embraer private jet clipped the wings of a boeing 737 800 in brazil, causing the 737 to free fall and break up mid air, no one on board the 737 survived, but the embraer miraculously made it and landed in an air base after the crash
@@crypton7572 oh god damn I remember that one now that you say it. Phantom strike is what the mayday episode is called I believe. Yea obviously they dont happen too often, especially nowadays with TCAS, but just like the one from this video, I believe many similar incidents like this happened in the past and either didnt receive much coverage or were even covered up. Having just checked, there are like 10+ mid air collisions which I have never heard of, which still have 50+ fatalities. For example 2 Ukrainian Tupolevs colliding over Ukraine, killing 84 and 94, August of 1979. Or LN1103 colliding with a fighter jet which was taking off while they were supposed to stand by for military traffic, leading to what is still Libya's worst accident. Overall, I am just glad that this safety issue is largely a thing of the past.
Im Saudi. I was 11 when this happened. I remember reading about it in the newspaper (the only news source at the time). I still remember the pilots names to this date. I watched every documentary about the incident, and with each one I watch my anger at the indians grows. What a pile of incompetent POS. They have blood on their hands with this one. Alshubaili will always be in my prayers.
I made a pin with a green dot and wings, I wear it on my work badge. I work in retail so many customers ask me about it. I try to send as many people as I can here. Peace!!
As i heard it about this accident, the Kazak radio operator was the ony one to communicate to ATC. When ATC warned him about the aircraft at FL140 and he acknowledged, the pilot heard the radio operator say 140 and thought that was the assigned altitude.
It's interesting to note that in the case of the two fatal Saudia jet crashes, both flight numbers ended with the number 63 - Saudia 163 (the Lockheed L-1011 fire), and this flight 763.
Fantastic graphics. They are just beautiful. And the informations is very thorough. The only one doing his job on the kazach plane was the radio operator. The pilot and copilot were in another world with their heads and were not paying attention whatsoever. Rest in peace all.
"They guessed they were 15,000ft" Holy shit, like if there's one job where you don't want to make a guess it would be something like flying plane espcially a commercial plane where you have so many innocent people relying on your piloting. RIP to those poor souls. Also my heart broke for the Saudi pilot praying to God before they crashed, just sad man. Regulations are often written in blood.
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Didn’t they not follow the T cass warning ? Or not this incident
India was also the first country to ban Tic Toc. 👍
Your productions are always so detailed in their execution and research.
This, as it happened in India, holds secial interest.
And it was good to see your team get to the finer nitty-gritties of getting the animations right.
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Of-course you stopped of being too critical on the way the investigations or the half hearted final report went.
But frankly, your viewers can always take.. and rather look forward to your critique.
Love the channel, I’d help you if I could ❤
@@Andrew-yy5vr not compulsory then.
I was fully expecting the controller to have made a mistake when his working conditions were described. I'm amazed one person could juggle all those flights on limited information and still do their job properly.
these people really work hard in their jobs, but unfortunately change and upgrade only happen after tragedy
Controller seemed efficient and professional in this account. But I agree with your initial hunch. I had the same.
@@rishabagarwal3628yeah sadly, with many things people are pushed to their limits until something bad happens and then the people in charge realise efficiency should not always be the ultimate goal
I felt so bad for the controller when I first heard of this accident. He did everything right and managed the situation beautifully, but in the end it was all out of his hands.
As soon as they quickly cleared him of any wrong doing, controller VK Dutta went straight back to work in the air traffic control tower; he had a family for which to provide.
A truly tragic incident. Simulations would later show that, had the Kazakh crew realized their error a few seconds AFTER they actually did, the incident could have been avoided. They had gotten so low that they would have flown under the Saudi jet. RIP.
imagine if it didn't happen though, Delhi or any other place would have to witness yet another mid air collision to install proper atc equipment and tcas
@@crypton7572 apparently better radar equipment had been purchased and were in the airport, but not installed prior to the accident.
@@crypton7572 With such a narrow air space for incoming and outgoing aircraft with no one way system its a wonder to me why Delhi airport authorities didn't space planes laterally as well as the normal vertical spacing to increase the safety of what was a dangerous and congested airspace especially considering some of their traffic had no altimeter readouts.
If they hadn't realized their error AT ALL everyone on board both planes would have been alive..Until another flight / Russian Rulette New Delhi approach & take off incidence and history would have just been delayed. RIP and Thank God all aftermath measures were taken - It was just unlucky that this collision occurred between big planes / heavy traffic with plenty of passengers - it could have been with much smaller planes with far less passengers or between cargo's.
@@chatteyj reseaechd on this crash a bit and I just found out that from articles dating from 1996or before, there have been TONS of near misses in that narrow airspace, this accident was BOUND to happen, the Kazakh pilots are the scapegoat, the real blame are the authorities in this crash
I've seen this unfortunate incident ... the worst mid air crash. I was around 6 yo, and was playing on the terrace when I saw huge flames touching the skies towards the right, a few miles away. It was like a burning hell. As a kid, I was scared. Next morning, it was all over tv and people were rushing towards the spot. Irony is, how living people turn into just non-living beings in just moments, and with them, burn their hopes and dreams!!
How horrible, what a sight that must have been.
Oh my goodness, that must have been so traumatic and I am sure you are still living with the results. What we need t remember s that our lives are short an we only have one. Let us please God make the most of it. All blessings to you xx
When I was 16, (6 days from my 17 birthday). I was standing outside talking to my mom. Sept 9, 1969, a DC-9, collided in mid-air with a Piper PA-28 light aircraft near Fairland, Indiana. We saw it in the sky but wasn’t sure what was happening, but the air filled with a horrible smell. It burned my eyes & nose. The fuel from the plane. It was horrible but it didn’t affect me like the sight of the mangled piece of plane on a flat bed truck that drove past our school a few days later. There were two giant trucks with the sun glistening off the silver parts of the plane. That sight is burned in my memory. Our home room class silently stood and walked to the windows. No one spoke. After we could no longer see it we sat down. No one spoke, I had to fight the tears. I’m not sure but I think over 70 people died. And crash was in a field right next to a mobile home park. The kids saw it! It was horrible.
@@timopheliac18 dont be a D, Tim. You did get what he was trying to say. Not everyone's native language is English.
The consciousness, eh?
There's a phrase in various areas of regulation: "The rules are written in blood."
It's unfortunate that more industries aren't equipped with the foresight needed to put in place practices like this before they happen
@naturalcreature6317 yeh, cuz it costs money, so unless it isn't required, they won't do it
Improvement cost vs death payouts cost.
That’s like saying it’s unfortunate humans are human.
@@animula6908 foresight fixes more issues than just workplace safety ones.
And human beings can be reckless, negligent, impulsive, ignorant, and otherwise problematic which creates the need for pretty much all laws we have. If human beings didn't create issues, other humans wouldn't need to put restrictions in place.
@@0xGRIDRUNR that’s not always a factor. In US military aviation, the men and women operating the aircraft aren’t doing it for a board or shareholders, but accidents still happen. The passengers aren’t faceless travelers, but instead are usually fellow service members who’ve grown into a sort of family together, and genuinely love one another. Still, they lose their lives in terrible accidents from time to time. The NATOPS, NAMP and other governing documents of naval aviation are always said to be written in blood. We don’t always know what we don’t know.
This incident brings back old memories. I was meant to be on the Kazakh flight with my family but we had postponed our flight to Delhi a week later a few days before the incident. Back then flights from Almaty to Delhi were only running weekly. Counting my blessings since then.
Wow.
Wow, glad you are okay. Live a good life.
insane
Hamdulilah
Good times.
My grandpa worked in the hospital near this crash and he still describes this day as one his most horrifying days at work.
Noone even needed the hospital
@@andrewjennings7306 you do realise there's identification process of the remains of people...
@@andrewjennings7306Wow when did you drop your brain?
@@humayrafaizah1428 I'm saying it's sad that the hospital couldn't help because they all died
No one is two words!@@andrewjennings7306
I started watching this and my dad (who has been in all 3 positions of the 747-200, and in the area this incident occurred in) overheard and got sucked in and was impressed by the quality of the video and that he’d never heard of this incident. (The same goes for me but I know your videos are always top notch- they are much appreciated! )
Glad he got something out of it!
Which airline was your dad with?
@@joelc9439 Bum-bum Airlines.
@@Randy.Bobandyso funny!! (Not)
@@Randy.Bobandy God!
The research and the amount of time this guy puts into his videos is crazy. He deserves more subs!!
Thank you :)
Definitely agree.
I concur
Im sure they will come definitely has potential to be a huge channel
Absolutely agree
I was an air traffic controller in the army for 6 years. I love this channel but I can never make it threw a video without a break because they just give me so much anxiety. These videos are the thoughts that kept me awake at night.
Man, don't do that to yourself!
My dad did air traffic control and he said it was some of the most stressful stuff he’s ever experienced. And this man was married to my “mother,” so, that’s saying something.
Edit: in the Air Force I mean, he did air traffic control
shoutout to the atc guy that held down that airspace solo
With no proper information as well.
So incredibly heartbreaking that the last transmission was the Saudi pilot praying. Imagine their final moments.
similar to italy and tenerife pilots, no mistake
Tell me about it. 😰😰 Ached me to hear him read his Shahadat. Can't even begin to imagine what those poor people went through.
@@humayrafaizah1428but SubhanAllah, it really brought a tear to my eyes as to how beautifully yet sorrowfully he remembered Allah in his last few moments. May Allah grant us all beautiful endings like this and Aso give all the believers who died in the process Jannatul Ferdous
It's a blessing that he recited the Shahada and asked the lord for forgiveness just before he met the creator of all humanity
Listen to that part multipletimes. He knew what happening even after he followed all the instuctions. 😢
It's absolutely crazy to me that in 1996 a plane would need 5 people flying it o.o
Il-76 is absolute relic of past, even when USSR was still around. And it is still used to this day...
Welcome to Soviet aviation: where the plane is as expendable is a bus and there’s no automation.
i took a flight from SFO to MNL, there were 5 people in the cockpit of a 777-300ER
Well this depends on the quality of the infrastructure and the flight length. You can still see pilots having issues in Africa today, where the infrastructure is pretty poor. No radar, sometimes no radio contact for half an hour and if GPS would fail they would have to rely on pretty spotty radio beacon navigation points.
But that would have likely been due to long flight time@@lenseofanomad
One thing you didn’t mention in this video:
There was a 3rd aircraft in the airspace at the time of the accident - a US Air Force plane, commanded by Captain Timothy J Place, approaching New Delhi.
Captain Place would later testify that he saw “an orange glow” in a cloud, and two fireballs fell out from the cloud.
Another thing you forgot to mention:
It was later determined that, had the Kazakh crew NOT attempted to climb back to 15k feet, they would have slipped below the Saudi aircraft.
Wow, tragic.
WOULD ANYONE BELIEVE A WAR MONGORING AMERICAN ?
It was the fault of the Kazakhs because they did not speak English and did not adhere to the instructions of the air traffic controller. Unlike the giant Saudi plane, Boeing 747, they were well trained and adhered to the instructions of the air traffic controller.
if the kazakh plane didn't climb they will get caught in the wake turbulence and will make the plane uncontrollable and probably going to crash, which is a slightly better outcome than getting both plane crash into each other
@@reinfieldsyou don't know that in the slightest. Stop playing arm chair pilot.
The writing and narration in your videos are genuinely amazing. Keep up the good work
Thanks! Glad you liked this one
@@GreenDotAviation absolutely love ur stuff mate
@@JokeswithMitochondria ue username made me cIick on ur profiIe. Ur channeI is a hidden gem bro
I'm new to your channel and 100% agree! Thank you
There’s an interview of one of the ATC controllers from Delhi from that time where he’s talking about how flights from ex Soviet (then CIS) countries regularly used to fly higher or lower than the assigned altitude, this crash was a ticking time bomb.
Got a link?
@@thetej1098 this channel doesn’t allow you to post links but search “Charkhi Dadri mid-air collision wildfilms India” it’s a 4 min news clip speculating about the reasons behind the crash.
@ad_2211 That's the Indian perspective trying to put the blame on Soviet aircraft. That's washing their hands clean free of guilt. That's what you call BIAS.
@@bluejay7232information is available all over the internet the blackbox confirms the fault of pilots . Imagine blaming USA for 9/11
@@bluejay7232 this bias is always going to be there, no one ever takes the blame. but at least we learn from this
Air traffic controllers work under so much pressure and responsibilities...kudos!!
Your episode answers so many questions that were largely left unanswered by the commercial video made about this disaster.
I'm glad! I always try to add some extra details to these videos
As an Indian born just about a month before this incident took place, I was always told that it was the fault of the kazakh aircraft. I didn't know that our aviation infrastructure was so bad back then. These days the infrastructure has changed a lot, and are still improving. Thank you for covering this case. Take love. ❤
Sadly, in our part of the world, things remain stagnant, change is resisted, and new technologies are not adopted unless they are guaranteeing a monetary return. It eventually requires serious incident like this to set things in motion.
It was thr clear fault of Kazak Aircraft...
Do you really feel the west will be unbiased towards India?
Dont be brainwashed...
@@n3ov there is no "in our part of the world" here. Every rule and regulation all over the world is written in blood, do you think these crashes due to poor infra happened only in eastern part of the world?
The plane from Kazakhstan was also had very ancient tech, it was not only old tech of Indian ATC which caused the collision.
@@debetrolence1991 No. But they are a hell of a lot more common in that part of the world BECAUSE of the outdated and old infrastructure that's kept due to government bean counter choices, ineptitude, and outright corruption. All things that occur in the first world to varying degrees but seem to statistically happen a lot more in 2nd to 3rd world.
any crash involving a 747 is always sad because of how many people are onboard, especially if no one survived the crash, ATC and the Saudi crew did everything right, ATC instructed the planes to fly with 1,000ft seperation, the Saudi crew stayed at 14,000 as instructed but the other crew kept descending, only stopping just before colliding, had they continued they would have passed each other
It was an accident waiting to happen. Having such corridor where traffic has to be this close.
@@allnighter2011Actually the 1996 wasn't a good year cause both Indian and Pakistani in a tense situation, both Pakistan and India had tested nukes in previous year and military build up where camouflage to hide the underground nuclear test that lead them to make a narrow pass like that
@@kiyotakaaynokoji9387 This is interesting information. I was led to believe by this video that the narrow pass was always the practice, but are you saying it was something that was introduced temporary in a time of military tension with Pakistan?
1000km is not enough separation. ATC could have also put them on different flight paths and asked them to distance themselves laterally too.
@@sphenoidjjj1k ft is the minimum and is acceptable.
Why they didn't separate laterally who knows, but it's standard to fly on a single corridor line so who knows.
I like how the commentary is straight to the point. Some other well know channels waffle on for far too long to the point I end up switching it off and now don't bother with their videos.
As a Saudi, I’ve heard my parents and relatives talks about this accident many times and describe how bad it is, I remembered later this day and wondered how it happened, never thought it was this bad. Thank you for the detailed information, and may Allah(God) have mercy on their souls
ameen
الله یرحمهم
الله يرحم موتى المسلمين
I like how the Saudi Arabian pilot uttered the Shahada towards his demise. May Allah grant him and all those who died Jannah.
@@Casa43635Ameen
I was not aware of this horrific incident. Magnificently produced and meticulously narrated and described as always! Thank you
I just finished binge watching all your videos (took me a almost week) but I can say with certainty that you have embarked in one crazy journey to become one of the best air disaster channels that ever existed in YT. As long as I have an internet connection Im pretty sure Ill be here to watch the vids for years to come.
I am absolutely petrified of flying, these videos do not help but they are so addicting!
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@@silvermainecoons3269 I aspire to have your confidence
@@silvermainecoons3269bro what addicting is a word
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It is scarry yes , i am still scaried of flying , but as a Muslim i learned and saw many people around me die in many ways both in piece and pain ....
You will die no matter what , just live your life as good as you can be , travel the world to see it and learn things about your self and others ... Live well ans be happy ❤
It seems crazy that they would have one way in and out . I'm more surprised it took so long for a collision to occur I would think they would use at least 3000 ft separation with such outdated equipment
Virtually all the lessons in aviation were learnt only when someone dies, maybe all the important lessons in human history.
In this air space lateral separation as well as the normal vertical should have been implemented I reckon. (To give a one way system) Having planes cross vertical airspace whilst hurtling towards each other at 1000km/h is just asking for trouble I think.
Hueginvieny; This is exactly what I was thinking as I watched this video. Early in my career I worked in the aviation industry and while I was not a controller, I worked with and for the controllers keeping their electronic equipment working properly. This gives me perhaps a better than average view into their work. I wonder if there was any reason the controller could not hold the Saudi aircraft at FL 100 (10,000 Ft.) for an additional minute or two and only clear them to FL 140 after they had passed under the Kazakh aircraft. If I was in the controller's place in such an undesirable airspace situation I would do all I could to arrange 3K or 5K ft of separation if I possibly could!
I think it's because 15k ft is the closest acceptable margin for both of the planes at the time because of the shitty small air space strip civilians had at the time
If the kazakh plane were to fly at a higher altitude, they wouldn't have much room to rotate and descend without trespassing to the military zone
But honestly, it was a ticking bomb all over because of outdated equipment, etc.
I’m a retired US MD, and I don’t know “Captain Green Dot,” (made up only with great respect, sir) the channel owner’s name, but I discovered your videos a few months ago as I enjoy aviation, SCUBA diving and other nonfiction videos. A favorite 1st cousin of mine was a Senior Captain and Flight Instructor for American. There are many flight video channels on YT, but I’m especially drawn to yours which I often find to be the best. Thank you so much for your fine work, and please carry on with many more. If you’re officially not a Captain yet, I gather you soon will be. All the best, Dr. J
So terrifying it happened above Delhi! I personally feel remorseful to everyone involved in this crash Especially in the former small Military and Civilian spaces which was really inappropriate for India. RIP 349 people of these two flights. Great video as always!
I have to say, the quality of your writing is what sets you apart from other RUclipsrs. The level of research is certainly up there, but I really appreciate your ability to write (and read) a script that is fluid and captivating, and you don't add unnecessary drama or exaggerate anything
Also, I like how you actually made an effort to pronounce the crew's full names properly. Most people wouldn't attempt it and would just stick to a first name or captain (initial)
Much appreciated :)
The quality of your videos are unmatched. I've seen a lot of aviation channels, none of them come close to what you got.
I love you how you add tons of visuals that help recreate the whole incident. Keep up this style of videos, it'll get you far. I subbed when you had around 83k subs, i'm so happy to see your channel growing to what it is now.
Your content is genuinely so good. Me and my boyfriend binge watched all of your videos in the span of like, 3 days. Very well thought out, organized, and honestly I don’t know why you’re not THE channel of airplane documentaries on RUclips yet tbh. Good stuff
You and mentour pilot are the best aviation accident youtubers, keep up the good work!
That prayer gave me chills and tears 😢🙏 What an incredibly stupid infrastructure, and what about having just one person in ATC handling everything by himself relying only on conversations? It just baffles me! Very detailed video, thank you!
This has to be up there with the best channels on RUclips. Your narration is always spot on and never fails to spark emotions. Great job man!
Omg im too addicted to this channel. Watched 14 hours of it today 💀. I don't want to run out
AND THANK YOU for showing the face (also known as the HUMAN) behind the show. I appreciate that there's someone behind the microphone who researches and works out to the best of his (and/or her) ability the details to get this great content together for us, the audience... rather than there being an AI that copy-pastes someone's work in various forms and just spits out new content over and over...
SO thanks for being you. I know this doesn't sound like much of a big deal, but it is. Keep doing what you do. ;o)
The consistency and quality is amazing, love your videos man
Thank you!
I watched a live feed of this channel once and was shocked at how young the narrator is. His intelligence and gravitas is superb. He completely blows away anything you'd get on the TV
@@truck5050I watched the Sunday livestream and it was so good, the narrator is literally an aviation expert
This was excellent. I was aware of this accident but I have never heard such a detailed analysis of what went wrong to cause it. Thanks for another outstanding presentation.
Glad you got something out of it!
So very wisely put when you mentioned the crew not working together and that "not my problem" should NEVER be an issue! A team is just that, a team. Working together for a successful outcome. Great video! Thank you!! ❤
My dad sat in the lower deck as a navigator at the start of his career. He LOVED that position.
Another absolutely stellar documentary. The detail you went into about the origins of these passengers and what was going on in many of their daily lives brought a whole new angle to this story I've never heard, making it feel all the more harrowing, personal and emotional. You completely nailed it once again dude!
A reinforcing "I second that motion" to all the previous comments, aka compliments!
Stunned that this didn't occur more frequently, so kudos to previous ATC teams. And a relatively new Russian a/c being technically behind the times, no revelation there.
But I have to give 👍 to India for mandating TCAS & fixing other shortcomings relative to a Delhi approach.
You grease the wheel that squeaks the loudest, and ATC needs to always be that wheel! Lives depend on it always be heard.
Great job with the analysis and production, you continue to be refreshing to watch - even if I've already seen the event. You're #1 in my book!
Appreciate the kind words 🙏
Absolutely love this channel, I've watched every single video you've put out now! The emphasis on the technical side and the human side of accidents always seems so genuine, objective, and empathetic to the people dealing with these emergencies that I very rarely feel blame towards any one person. you always clarify it was a series of issues, and the whole of the situation that caused the incident. I think a lot of disaster documentaries can get very blame oriented and kinda try to get you to feel angry at the people involved, I've only felt that once here with that guy who decided a radio station was a fine navigation tool and forgot about where the sun was supposed to be 😭 Also the only channel i've seen to cover near misses and non lethal accidents which are such victory stories. The listing of changes recommended and implemented is such a nice ending to the videos, it makes you feel like it wasn't all for nothing and good rules were put in place to prevent similar accidents. great work as always man i can't wait to see what you're able to do with a VFXs employee!!
Thank you! We pour a lot of work into these so I'm glad that it pays off :) I'm really looking forward to having a dedicated VFX person too 😎
@@GreenDotAviation If you don’t mind me asking, what is VFX?
@@silvermainecoons3269 Visual Effects (Fx) ! i believe the current videos use a flight sim to show off the inside of the plane and standard editing to add effects like highlighting buttons in the cockpit and smoke effects where relevant, a dedicated visual effects person would have the technical know-how and time to make more complicated edits!
Ive been watching this channel for years and its been getting soo much better!
I like how the Saudi Arabian pilot uttered the Shahada before his demise. For those who are not familiar shahada is a declaration of faith just before death. May Allah grant him and all the crew Jannah.
May Allah grant him Jannah ❤
Ameen
Ameen.
A religious person belonging to any faith would have remembered his God.
Ameen
I can't help but wonder if Delhi would still be just one dude in the tower fighting to keep aeroplanes apart if it hadn't have been for this terrible event.
Thank you for a brilliant and dare-I-say, harrowing presentation.
One could say that about pretty much all of aviation. The rules and safety manuals and checklists are written in blood. Right now Delhi is set to have 2 of the largest airports in Asia. But less than 30 years ago it was a very different story.
I remember reading about this accident when I was in a kid in school. Can't forget one line in the papers that said something like the sky lit up and a huge ball of fire came crashing down into a field.
Money usually isn't spent proactively, more's the pity.
If not for this it would be silly for them to hire a second guy. The first guy was doing fabulous under the circumstances.
@@animula6908
So, ATCs are critical safety personnel.
...If any given critical safety personnel have too high a workload, we should **never** hire more people.
Instead, we need to wait until the inevitable happens and people 💀⚰️🪦 because the overworked critical safety personnel make a mistake.
The deceased people will be our indicator that we need to hire more critical safety personnel.
Is this the argument you really wanted to go with?
The Saudi plane went on the radio and asked god to forgive everyone for what had happened.
It is, in effect, him saying he did not blame anyone.
I am not a religious person, but it has brought a tear to my eye. He did not have to transmit this, yet he thought to do so.
May everyone involved in this accident rest in peace.
You maybe right, but im an arab Muslim and the was i see it that he said out of instinct and nature, i and most Muslims will say prayers whenever we are shocked, so i think the same happened to him, or that he was seeking forgiveness from allah for all the sins he may have sinned before he couldn't anymore
Heart goes out to the innocent victims.
Informative video.
Everybody neat and cosy, until you see the eye white of another captain in another plane roaming towards yours.
Even though it wasn't the controller's fault I can't imagine how guilty he must've felt, or how terrifying it must've been for the crew watching the other plane get closer in their last moments, realising it was too late.
1 man in the control tower multi-tasking when there are so many lives at risk is a travesty!
It's not great, but even if they had 10 people in the control tower it likely wouldn't have changed anything. It was a policy issue, requiring planes to fly along the exact same route, separated only by altitude. Additionally, they failed to install modern radar so the ATC couldn't determine the altitude of the aircraft.
Great video! What a horrifying accident this was, and the haunting last words of the Saudi pilots are so chilling.
In my opinion the blame is equal to both Kazakh piolet and Delhi airport for not having the necessary equipment and very narrow single corridor for inbound and outbound flights.
Don't forget the Kazakh plane itself. If it had received more modern equipment it would have avoided the crash too.
@@ovinedreamer1451 and the soviet meter mentality
Impressive as always! Easily in my top five aircraft-anything-related channels!
These videos are just so well made, you obviously put a lot of time and effort into researching for and making them, and you are such a good narrator, I was on the edge of my seat for the whole thing and I just had to know what was about to happen
Hardest thing for him in this video was pronouncing those names,yet he delivered.Nice job as always grat video!.
Watching this at my boarding gate, cheers!
That intro was poetic. Your videos keep getting more incredible. Keep up the awesome work man. I love getting to watch these, and oddly enough my puppy loves them too 😂
You’re right, the introduction was very creative. I loved the pyramid metaphor. My cat likes to watch aviation videos too, she loves the animation! It’s kind of funny, I can never predict which videos captivate her and which ones she couldn’t care less about. 😂😂
Hearing the last prayers of the Saudi captain touched my heart, may they fly in haven 😢
It was a very very tragic news when this incident happened , a lot of workers from India travel to Saudi Arabia to work and make extra money to send back home to family , Kazakhstan traders travel to nearby places for trading purposes , so sad 😢for all who perished in this air accident. Thank you for sharing this clip and I am sure it must have been difficult for you to put it altogether due to the nature of this insurmountable tragedy
Tragic case - but another excellent video from Green Dot - well done and thanks for your work. Greetings from Sydney Australia.
What a terrible tragedy! It's unbelievable that no other collisions occurred at Delhi airspace. Even more unbelievable is that it took the deaths of over 300 people to effect change at this airport. Absolutely tragic and totally avoidable.
I don't enjoy, what's happening in your videos, but I enjoy the information without making something sensational out of these tragedies. And even for a German it is perfect to understand. So your videos are information and learning for me. Keep going on like this! ;)
The sad reality is that often nothing ever gets addressed or fixed until the human cost is paid.
Your videos are very detailed and so well explained👍
Glad you appreciate the detail
I was 8 years old when I heard the news. Made me so scared about flying. The fear went away when I finally flew from Delhi to Kolkata when I was 11.
Yeh I don't like flying at all, I grew up near Kegworth in the English Midlands where there was a crash landing that killed people. But I can't imagine anything more terrifying than a mid-air collision and being alive on the way down. Those poor people, may God have mercy on their souls. Safe travels 👍
Indian aviation safety is surprisingly alright, although most of their accidents happen on the landing phase if the journey
last year indigo nearly had to write off an aircraft because it bounced on the runway
Your audio's production value has risen dramatically since the last time I visited your channel. Well done!
Amazing narration and attention to detail as always! Imo you’re the best aviation channel on RUclips and I can’t wait to see all your future videos!
Thank you! Many more videos on the way ✈✈
Great video rendering - love the bokeh and diffraction spikes from lights in the background :D
Great writing, I love the pyramid metaphor. I always enjoy your videos. There’s no cheesy re-enactments, and you always get right to the point. Older disaster documentaries always had to fill out each episode to an hour so they always added extraneous padding that was unnecessary and often boring. Your narration is very good too, clear and concise. I know nothing about aviation, you do a great job of making even the most complex topics easy to understand. Green Dot is my new go-to channel for aviation. Thank you! 😊
Watched 6 of your videos today each one very well detailed and very well explained on each situation pilots faced. Keep up the fantastic work!
Thanks, that's the plan! Glad you're enjoying them :)
As a person born in kazakhstan, i can confirm that people here do not know english very much which was a huge negative in the kazakh plane, what a tragic incident.
Harrowing, it always upsets me hearing about aviation tragedies, but fantastic recounting as always. I feel particularly sad for the air traffic controller in this instance. They did everything right and everything they could, I just hope they didn't have blame shifted onto them, and that they didn't feel any personal responsibility for the incident 😭
I was booked on the Saudia flight! I was working in Saudi Arabia at the time and was due to accompany my boss to Dehli to recruit some workers. I resigned from the company just before the trip. Despite him asking me to accompany him during my notice period my boss subsequently decided to cancel the trip.
I understand the nature of the military airspace around the airport but surely controllers had room to even just slightly offset the headings of incoming and outgoing planes?
That's what I thought as well. I'm unaware of the minimum horizontal distance required between aircraft back in the day, but surely you could fit them through in 2 separate paths?
I thought that too outbound left inbound left as they both see it, wouldnt have taken a genius to do that
That's apparently what they started doing afterwards, so yes.
You can't blame ATC, tho, not having that is a structural failure and lack of safety culture. The controller just pulled the short straw and was the one on duty when the inevitable happened.
@@screetchycello Not necessarily blaming ATC, just couldn't think of why they wouldn't add another degree of separation even in the relatively confined space. But thinking about it a bit more I realized that because of the old radar they had it was probably not possible to reliably vector the planes on parallel paths. They only had the two beacons to reference otherwise and vertical separation was the only realistic guarantee assuming the pilots played along. I do agree that this was inevitable though, its a shame so much positive change must come at so high a cost.
Maybe its because of traffic?
Truly sad. If the Captain and navigator both had altimeters that displayed feet, one wonders why the First Officer needed to rely on a conversion of feet to meters. Why not just have the Captain monitor the altitude from his altimeter? Excellent video, once again.
ruskies and their russian engineering at their finest
Seems to be the case of a poor cockpit design by not giving an altimeter to the radio operator station. This is quite odd because other Soviet era Ilyushin aircraft has an altimeter on their radio operator station but this particular IL-76 doesn’t
The captain was the one flying the plane and had an altimeter and acted confused when he was told he was not at the right height. wtf. Just massive amounts of negligence.
I litterally forgot about this crash, thanks a lot for making a more detailed version than ACI!
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This is crazy, i don’t ever remember hearing about this collision. The Russisn/DHL was the only one I knew of…. Incredible
I've been working in aviation for over a year now, and that phrase you said really hit me hard "not my problem" I swear I get so pissed when I hear that at work, it goes as far as my colleagues telling me "it is not your problem why do you care"... so frustrating
Very sad disaster. The saudi plane did nothing wrong, and yet had an unexpected date with catastrophe.
Green dot aviation? Completed it mate ✔️ another brilliant and thoroughly explained video, you the aviation GOAT.
Wow, that Military/Civilian airspace split is outrageous.
It is easy to outrage, difficult to spot the systemic flaw that led to that state of affairs. And no, it was not mere "apathy".
@@death_parade Not difficult at all in my opinion. Small corridor for inbound and outbound at a very busy airport, no altitude reporting radar. And, there's no need to have all that airspace military only. That's just lazy.
@@JFirn86Q The airport was handed over to Civilians just the previous year. All that military airspace was there for a reason we don't understand.
@@JFirn86Q it's not lazy, are you dense? Atleast do your research, military airspace was enforced by the civilian government themselves because all the heads of the government sit in Delhi, with Stagnating power of the USSR, India had not received any major overhauls of their Air defence systems in Cities and thus had to rely on protection by the military itself to guard against airthreats from both China and Pakistan.
@@debetrolence1991 Dense?.. Pot calling the kettle black! There's an effective way to do exactly that without just claiming the entire country as "military air space" that is 99% of the time unused. Yes, it involves more work and control, but that's how it is normally done. Why do you think they reverted to this higher effort style after this accident?
I cant and dont wanna imagine what people on board were thinking after the crash,as planes were going down...
the sound of the Saudi pilot before the accident is chilling
you're the best aviation youtuber on RUclips right now, I always get excited when you upload a new video !
Hits different when you hear the poor dude praying
Yeah it really is 😭
I played your entire playlist yesterday and just now saw you covered an incident in my own home country . Woah! 😀
Hearing the voice of the saudi captain is just very upsetting
May God rest his soul الله يرحمه
Fantastic videos, i really like the way you brought out all the shortcomings and not just the role of the khazak crew.
I think in general, mid-air collisions as a threat aren't talked about enough.
I'd consider myself as a bit of a nerd when it comes to air crashes in general and I have literally never heard of this, despite of its status as both the most deadly collision as well as one of the most deadly accidents in general.
The only mid-air collisions I was familiar with were the Überlingen crash and the American Airlines 718 one.
One sentence in regards to collisions that has always stuck with me and I believe it is from the German version of the Mayday episode about the Tenerife collision, said something along the lines of that it is telling that we have been pushing for bigger planes with more passengers for decades, without once considering what would happen if they'd come together and how that speaks for the fact that the human mind can ignore potential risks and dangers of one's actions, if only the benefits are big enough.
Love, your videos man, what can I say.
For years now I have been looking for a RUclips channel which doesn't just create a bad copy of all the Mayday episodes and I have watched through your whole channel over the last week or 2.
Your selection of topics is amazing and has shown me many incidents (like this one) that I was previously unaware of and even if you cover a topic that has been done by Mayday before, you always manage to put a new spin on it and to deliver an exciting video, even if the topic isn't new to the viewer.
For example with SA295 you went into detail about the political climate in South Africa and how pilots were more or less forced to put their passengers at risk, as well as how the specifics of the cargo impacted the decisionmaking of the pilot.
Glad you are doing this and happy to see the production quality increasing with every video as well.
Keep doing what you are doing and thank you for your content.
Mid air collisions are pretty rare maybe that's why
the last fatal mid air collision happened in 2006 when an embraer private jet clipped the wings of a boeing 737 800 in brazil, causing the 737 to free fall and break up mid air, no one on board the 737 survived, but the embraer miraculously made it and landed in an air base after the crash
@@crypton7572 oh god damn I remember that one now that you say it.
Phantom strike is what the mayday episode is called I believe.
Yea obviously they dont happen too often, especially nowadays with TCAS, but just like the one from this video, I believe many similar incidents like this happened in the past and either didnt receive much coverage or were even covered up.
Having just checked, there are like 10+ mid air collisions which I have never heard of, which still have 50+ fatalities.
For example 2 Ukrainian Tupolevs colliding over Ukraine, killing 84 and 94, August of 1979.
Or LN1103 colliding with a fighter jet which was taking off while they were supposed to stand by for military traffic, leading to what is still Libya's worst accident.
Overall, I am just glad that this safety issue is largely a thing of the past.
You sure it wasn't United 718 instead of American?
@@createrz8433 oh yea, you're right, my bad xd
if i dont see this channel reach 300k by the end of this year im gonna throw a fit u deserve way more subscribers
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This completely breaks me
You can hear it in his tone of voice
May Allah grants him and the other victims mercy
He said the Shahada before dying, may Allah grant him Jannah and forgive his sins
@@muneerobeidat4363 amen
@@muneerobeidat4363 amen
Im Saudi. I was 11 when this happened. I remember reading about it in the newspaper (the only news source at the time). I still remember the pilots names to this date. I watched every documentary about the incident, and with each one I watch my anger at the indians grows. What a pile of incompetent POS. They have blood on their hands with this one. Alshubaili will always be in my prayers.
@@KhaledTheSaudiHawkII ahh the newspapers
I haven't seen one in years
I made a pin with a green dot and wings, I wear it on my work badge. I work in retail so many customers ask me about it. I try to send as many people as I can here. Peace!!
That's so cool! ❤Send me your email and I'll send you a Green Dot t-shirt (greendot330@gmail.com)
As i heard it about this accident, the Kazak radio operator was the ony one to communicate to ATC. When ATC warned him about the aircraft at FL140 and he acknowledged, the pilot heard the radio operator say 140 and thought that was the assigned altitude.
It's interesting to note that in the case of the two fatal Saudia jet crashes, both flight numbers ended with the number 63 - Saudia 163 (the Lockheed L-1011 fire), and this flight 763.
Illuminati confirmed
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Ikr! I thought the same thing, 163 was just weird and very avoidable
Fantastic graphics. They are just beautiful. And the informations is very thorough. The only one doing his job on the kazach plane was the radio operator. The pilot and copilot were in another world with their heads and were not paying attention whatsoever. Rest in peace all.
"They guessed they were 15,000ft"
Holy shit, like if there's one job where you don't want to make a guess it would be something like flying plane espcially a commercial plane where you have so many innocent people relying on your piloting. RIP to those poor souls.
Also my heart broke for the Saudi pilot praying to God before they crashed, just sad man. Regulations are often written in blood.
I am watching this 7 or 8 years ago and kept asking my dad about why the crash happened as I was too young to understand
Awesome Video, well done!
Such a small window of error that could lead to a collision, yet they managed to fly into each other is absolutely tragic. RIP to all those involved.