My dad carried a 44 magnum for 14 yrs, and loaded his own ammo (mega hot). He gave me some when he retired. The day after 911 me and some friends went to the range to let off some steam...and it was packed (Houston). I was on the very end lane and I pulled out the S&W 44 and put some of my dad's loads in. I fired a couple rounds and the range stopped. Everyone was looking at me because when I fired the fireball was so massive and concussion so great the leaves on the ground would get sucked down range. All the pew pew plastic pistols were like bbs compared to my dad's engine killing police loads. The good ole days.
That is fantastic lol. We had a trainer come over and asked if we could take a brake for a bit because the little lady he was training kept jumping when we were firing. Hey at least she wants to learn good for her. No problem buddy!
Bet he had it loaded with a slow powder like 2400 so it had tons of energy and the powder was still buring out the barrel the old blazer in 44 in the 90s did that too super cool my dad blasted his 44 at sunset it was so cool
@@BChan1991 Right? Coch has nothing to prove to anyone, so he doesn't need to chest beat or brag. I get the feeling this is just naturally who he is, and it's why he's such a great guy.
That brings back memories, i'm a Brit veteran, i trained and carried the Browning hi power, loved it, reliable, ease of use. Quite accurate too. Classic small arm like the 1911.
As an American I know it's blasphemy and they're all good pistols but knowing what I know now I'd go for the 9mm over the .45, whether a Hi-Power, Beretta, CZ-75 etc. Especially with modern HP ammo.
In my 50’s, have owned and shot 1000’s through 1911, revolvers, DA/SA, striker fired and DA only. Today, I talk to young shooters who have never shot anything but Glocks. That’s sad. They don’t learn trigger control or the experience the beauty of an awesome DA trigger. After trying dozens of different pistols I’ve settled on Sig P228 as my favorite. Beretta 92 LTT is in the conversation also.
I was in a Beretta armor class back in 2005. The instructor told us the story about the SEALs testing the M9. It was found that the SEALs were using high pressure proof loads. not using ammo at SAMI specs causing the slide to split in half.
Thanks "Coch", brilliant video, I still carry a pocket knife everywhere, just in case someone has cake. I started my career with the Browning, and I have not worn green for 20 plus years. And recently I saw that we are still using the High Power, only in the 21st Century version. Cheers
Years ago, I shot a small club IDPA match, and the one competitor and his daughter brought a cake to celebrate her birthday. As luck would have it, they forgot their knife, and I had mine on me. Of course I took a photo, because everyone always asked me why, and I also said 'to cut a cake if needed'! Now there was proof *lol*
My father was special forces and got me into sigs and never looked back. Ive got a 229 elite , 226 mk25, and a 226 legion my edc is the p229 for its size !!
Starting LE in 1988, issued the following in order: Smith and Wesson .357(Mdl 686) , P226(9mm) , P228(9mm) , Sig P229(.357 Sig) , Glock 19 (9mm). Wonder why I am Sig biased? 2 agencies and 35 years later, looking forward to some peace and quiet👍
Even tho I’m a purely recreational and competition shooter , I enjoy a highly qualified insight into the pure efficacy of firearms as tools of the trade . Great overview !
5:15 the story I've heard about the slides breaking was that the teams ordered 9mm ammo loaded to the same spec that they were running in their MP5s and that Winchester made the ammo with milspec cases that were thicker causing a significant increase in chamber pressure Christ Bartocci from Small Arms Solutions said that ammo cracked the frames on some P226s the teams were testing.
That’s what I remember hearing as well but even if that’s the case I could understand how that would mess with your head on how much you trust the pistol
This is true, Beretta actually sued the US Govt. and won citing the damage done to the Beretta name by the govt using out of spec ammo and putting on the pistol as the weak point. That said I own an M9 but I carry a Sig p229 daily, love the Beretta but the ergonomics of the sig are just perfect to me.
vid reminds me of my constant thoughts bringing me to the old days, better days. Im of the type that while everyone is playing music through cd's i am tuning out with 8 tracks......old style is always preferred......
Seal Dad! Surprised they didn't switch to Glock's earlier. Nice to hear you dispel some of the negative talk on the reliability of the Sigs. Have an great weekend!
Technical corrective note: HK was first to integral rails on pistols with the USP (1990) not Glock. Glocks did not introduce the rails on their pistols until Gen 3 (1998).
I really like this sort of content. And, I really enjoy the manner in which you present it, Coch. It feels like just hanging out and listening to your buddy.
I think I’ve watched all of COACH’s videos. Very relaxing as he remind me of my father and older FROGMAN (UDT). I loved my P226 I got when I got out of the Marines. Sold it to a fried and wished. I hadn’t.
Love your content Mark. Always well presented, you have a great demeanour for a teacher (an obvious throw back to your Instructor days) and really interesting to listen to your experiences. Interestingly our SADF Recce's are running P226's now after transitioning from Beretta 92's (and variants thereof), unfortunately nowadays (with corruption being endemic) we're always behind the curve. Our elite police paramilitary force, the SAPS Special Task force are running Glocks after transitioning away from their tried 'n tested H&K USP's which they ran since the late 90's. Almost all in 9x19, but with some guys opting for .40's as well. I see we're also starting to run more AR-15's than we used to, moving away from the R1- R6 series of rifles. Thanks for sharing Mark. Best wishes from South Africa.
Good honest video. The Beretta and SIG Sauer 226 are classy pistols. My husband and I have both in our firearms collection, beautiful pistols and craftsmanship. Unfortunately these pistols can be expensive in 2024. The Beretta GTS is similar to the 92 and can be found on sale for a reasonable price. Thanks for your service 🙏
Great video! I love seeing these videos about the history of firearms in the seals. It would be really cool to see a similar format video about rifles.
Enjoyed your trip down memory lane. I bought a police trade in P226. Puts thousands of rounds through it without issue and sold it to a buddy. I love Sig!!!
The military new 9 mm ammo m1152 is a game changer. Hot with flat point for the 9. Other wise I think the 45 does have more one shot stop over especially with the double tap ammo than your average 115 grain round nose in my opinion. Great video thank you for your service
Hey Coch, great vid,. Ret. LE., two of your classes in Escondido, still benefiting from the extra attention ! Thanks ! Will always view your vids . . Take care.
For a change, a great YT suggestion. I really enjoyed the video. My military career in SF started in 81 and all we had available was revolvers. Eventually we transitioned to pistols. Subscribed!
Good stuff Coch. I was lucky enough to pick up a Mk25 in great shape. It is my favorite pistol in my collection. I also have a 1911 just because 😉 - love that fun too. Keep up the good work.
Great video Coch! My fortay is handguns and I love hearing about what pistols used to be available. I prefer older metal guns like the Sig 226 and Colt 1911. Take care brother! ✌️
Love all the Tac-Hyve guys, and though I don't like to pick favorites, Coch is my favorite nonetheless. I waste no time in watching one of his videos when I see it pop up in my feed! Though I've been shooting on and off for most of my life, I'm about two years into shooting as a serious endeavor. I love the videos on the pistol stuff since, as a civilian, that has been my focus for both home defense and CCW. Like Coch, I must live in the always beautiful Commiefornia for my gig, so of course my options are a bit limited. I have settled on a G17 for home defense and a Shield for CCW. I guess it could be worse!
The Hi-Power (L9a1 in British service) was the standard issue service pistol for the British Army until 2014 when they switched to the Glock 17 gen.4 which is issued to every soldier in the British Army now. Every British Army soldier is equipped with a Glock 17 gen.4.
Damn, didn’t know Coch was in DG, guess that’s why there’s always that added level of professionalism and cool demeanor with him. Any thoughts on the Devgru guys recently jumping back to the SIG after being seen and promoting the 320 X5? Both active and recently retired seem to prefer it after having grown with the 226s. Guess the glock grip angle never stuck on.
Also DOD bought a bunch of SIG contracts after their service pistol competition. The Army in particular is phasing in the M17 which is the mil spec P320. Seeing what Sig is doing both with the MCX and their prototype Squad Support weapon, I’d say we’re gonna be seeing a lot more from this company.
Love my Sig P229 in .357. I wore the first one out, it was 1st gen, then was issued the updated version - never had any issues with it. Then when I got out I bought the P229SAS model…absolutely love it.
Really well done and informative. I’m curious when the Seals stopped using the HK USP 45. (Like the Mark 23?) It’s large but is dead on zeroed, has great level of recoil and is really accurate. I use it for protection fishing in bear country with 45 hard cast P+p. Barely large enough. Thanks for your good work. Very interesting discussion.
I like your videos. You simple, clear, honest and real. Its refreshing to find a guy not flexing his ego in every video. You allow us to consider you ideas. Thanks. I'll be watching all your videos. Semper Fi
Out of those the Beretta 92 is my pick for sure. This is thanks to Langdon Tactical renewed my love of the 92 with the Elite LTT. Second pick is the P226. Overall it is to bug for my hand. The DA trigger reach is way too long for me. With different grips and short reach trigger, I can make it work. Recently got a P226 SAO and it is perfect!
I was a military police officer and carried the m9 and later m11 pistols on duty. The issue with engaging the safety on the m9 was fixed by a field modification to the manual of arms. To rack the weapon with safety off we would grasp the slide to the front in the indentation. Our hands would be safely behind the barrel and the indent would gives us a purchase on the weapon and the safety would not be inadvertently applied. I still occasionally carry an L model beretta 92 on occasion.
From a shootability perspective, I agree on the 92; however that hammer drop safety is awful. I have often done exactly what Mark mentioned about engaging the hammer drop safety when dry firing. That's where the older SAO 92's were amazing. That P226 SAO is a dream pistol, CONGRATS! They're too damn expensive in my country to even contemplate (around $2000), so Glocks and M&P 2.0's are what I rock nowadays. Best wishes from South Africa.
Great video. I discovered your channel a month or so ago so now I’m watching all your videos.Love the content and thank you for your service and sharing your experience
Great review ! Good information on each hand gun. First time watching your videos… seems like a pretty good RUclips channel… straightforward , good stuff, keep the videos coming.. Vr Senior Chief, Retired
Enjoy your video. You had a lot of nice pieces there. I like how you say it’s only a secondary weapon that’s true. I’ve carried firearms in the service and out of the service. My favorite has always been the 45 for the knockdown power. The GI 45 served me well. I also own a Sigg 228. A little bit higher around capacity, but in 9 mm. The double action single action is pretty easy to get used to. It was lighter than my 45. My every day carry is a colt 45 Commander. Aluminum frame it was made in 1965. It’s nice and light with the eight round Wilson combat mag and one in the chamber caulked and locked. It’s like to carry handy. Has never let me down. It’s stock from the factory with the Lil sites that don’t snag. I personally liked the little sites that John Browning put on hi them. My buddy Al. Was in Southeast Asia in the early days he was in the first air Calvary. He was in a foxhole in the perimeter when the choppers were down for the night. He radioed in that he heard something moving he was told to stay put. Before Dawn they heard shot ring out the radio was dead. They went to go check on Al. When they found him there was a 6 1/2 foot tiger on top of him. The tiger was dead. I was OK. Al. Died a few years ago of Agent Orange. He was a hell of a friend and soldier. The 45 with hardball will kill anything I think it’s a lot better than nine that convince me. Take care. Enjoy your videos. Every day above ground is a good day.
Considering that secondary weapons will rarely be deployed. Is it better to have a full size service pistol for your backup, Or a sub compact? Modern ccw pistols are very similar to the military and police pistols carried in the past. What about something like the S&W shield plus? It is large enough to shoot easily. Smaller and lighter than full frame guns. While using ten round magazines.
Sign 236 mK 25 is definitely a nice pistol. My husband nor I have one yet. It's definitely on our list as they are classy pistols. Thank you for your service and sharing your video. God bless 🙏👌
Carried a P220 myself (same sized sidearm) on Sheriff Reserve. Love that gun and since I personally had to purchase it, I still own her. I've run more than 40k rounds through her in various schools and competitions and it only let me down twice, one was a broken recoil spring (still fired if I manually cycled the action) and the other was because I got non-factory mags and they were JUNK. Besides my Sig the only other sidearm I'd want as a duty firearm would be a Glock 17 or an M&P9. Never had a M&P in the field, but know more than one who did and never had a bad thing to say about them. Also havnt had my hands on the new Army issue sidearm, but I've heard good things.
Nice! Just one small thing. The first manufacturer to put a rail on a pistol was HK (MK23, USP40, etc) in 1993. Same for aggressive stippling and grip cut outs.
BZ! Mark , always love hearing your gouge - Would really enjoy attending a training event some day and chopping it up about your exploits. I remember tv watching during gulf 1 on night 1, and CNN had a camera on the beach in the faces of some Team guys, I can only imagine what was going through their minds.
All my semi autos are SIG classics but one, the Smith and Wesson 3913 . I am a revolver shooter. Having been a hunter I used a revolver whenever it was out of season to have a rifle or bow in the field. I don't collect auto guns but I will snag multiple "K" or "L" frames. Looking to expand my single actions. Only own two now. Both Rugers, Single Six and a Super Blackhawk. Hope to get a Colt.
The magazine disconnect in the hi power is quite easy to remove. Great video. I love and own all these guns. Given these choices though, I'm probably going 226. Love your videos and presentation. Thank you for your service. You're a real life American badass.
Desert Storm, saddest day had turn in my 1911 for an M-9, also had a Browning Hi Power that I felt was more the right size of a 9mm, bought a Marine Ka-Bar. Was an MP but never got the trip to the sand box, stayed at Ft Hood whole war.
Yes there was a week point. The gun was redesigned and production was moved to a new facility. They changed material in the slide and added a catch component to the frame. Beretta tried to blame ammo as the reason. Army investigation found that to be false. Thx for posting
@@higherlifts420 that’s a common opinion, I noticed (not a large number of them I was exposed to, as a leg grunt) that the ones I handled and was around, and the one deployment that I actually had one, that they seemed to have been really beat up and suffered from years of dismal maintenance, abuse, and lack of attention in general. I also said I’d never have one. Fast forward a bit, and upon firing my uncle’s Italian made and well maintained Brigadier that it was perhaps not the platform overall that was bad, maybe a lot of the examples in service that were badly maintained, old, and generally used and abused played a role. Fast forward even more, and I got my hands on the M9a3, with a redesigned frame and a lot of improvements, as well as being an Italian produced example. It’s quickly become my favorite pistol, and a few more joined the line up. The Italian produced ones have great fit and finish; I’ve only had my hands on one US produced example, but the fit and finish was not quite as nice as my Italian made ones. Maybe check out the M9a3, it may change your opinion; it’s definitely not your old military M9, that’s for sure. I get the M9 hate, but the M9a3 (especially Italian made ones) can definitely change some opinions.
The first time I ever saw a Navy Seal, was at the Chocolate Mountains, and they were carrying Ruger Revolvers, we asked them about it, they told us it was the best gun for swimming out there.
Smith and Wesson 686’s were issued in the 80’s, 90’s. They were still around in the 2000’s. Never saw any issued Rugers. But guys carried whatever they wanted.
Great video, there’s just something reassuring and “cool” about having a good ol metal frame hammer fired gun with iron sights. After shooting polymer striker fired wonder nines for years I just got my first DA/SA a month ago and I’m hooked (cz 75 p-01 compact). Put 500 rounds through it in a month. I trust it fully now. Next in my list is a p226 for sure. Wanted one forever. Way better than the p320/m17/m18!
I like your choices! Worked with 1UK division in '03 in Iraq and got to qual with the Brits Browning High Power - Nice gun! In my time as a medic/HM, I got to shoot/qual with the .38 M10, 1911, M-9 and Fam fired the Sig P226.
Hi Coch, I started my training many years ago on the high power🇬🇧.... Great videos on your times as an SF operator love to see even more on modern update s on gear and training etc, could you do a video on your knives and knife techniques etc..we always carried a racing spoon just in case their was any cake on offer 😜 cheer's 🇬🇧
It would seem to me that outside the U.S. 9mm would be easier to scrounge up if necessary. Rule #1- Acquire a weapon. if all I had was my secondary, I would use it to acquire a rifle....SkS, AK, Mosin, it wouldn't matter. Indigenous arms + ammo (assuming the person you took it from didn't need it anymore) would work for me. P.S.- totally surprised the OHWS Mark 23 wasn't mentioned.
No one would mess with a SEAL carrying a .44 magnum. Real life General Shepherd right there.
or ispector Harry Callahan from SFPD. My favourite movie police officer when I was a child.
I don't know about packing a 44 but at the time I could see myself pulling a GIGN and packing a 357
No seal ever would. Non standard ammo is a nono and they're pretty heavy
He got the BIG IRON!
for real lol that’s so epic
My dad carried a 44 magnum for 14 yrs, and loaded his own ammo (mega hot). He gave me some when he retired. The day after 911 me and some friends went to the range to let off some steam...and it was packed (Houston). I was on the very end lane and I pulled out the S&W 44 and put some of my dad's loads in. I fired a couple rounds and the range stopped. Everyone was looking at me because when I fired the fireball was so massive and concussion so great the leaves on the ground would get sucked down range. All the pew pew plastic pistols were like bbs compared to my dad's engine killing police loads.
The good ole days.
Great times !
That is fantastic lol. We had a trainer come over and asked if we could take a brake for a bit because the little lady he was training kept jumping when we were firing. Hey at least she wants to learn good for her. No problem buddy!
M E G A H O T ✨😂
Bet he had it loaded with a slow powder like 2400 so it had tons of energy and the powder was still buring out the barrel the old blazer in 44 in the 90s did that too super cool my dad blasted his 44 at sunset it was so cool
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You’ve got a great demeanor in your videos. No ego and that’s refreshing. I enjoy watching them even at 53 years old!
well, when you've actually been thru some shit.....
@@BChan1991 Right? Coch has nothing to prove to anyone, so he doesn't need to chest beat or brag. I get the feeling this is just naturally who he is, and it's why he's such a great guy.
Yeah,,, There are some chadds out there.. Being a gentlemen is a lost art
Seeing a 1911 in Coch's hands put a big smile on my face. Thanks for sharing, Coch.
That brings back memories, i'm a Brit veteran, i trained and carried the Browning hi power, loved it, reliable, ease of use. Quite accurate too. Classic small arm like the 1911.
As an American I know it's blasphemy and they're all good pistols but knowing what I know now I'd go for the 9mm over the .45, whether a Hi-Power, Beretta, CZ-75 etc. Especially with modern HP ammo.
My dad was an F14 pilot in the ‘80s and carried a Browning HP. In the ‘90s and up until early 2000s, Sig Sauer P226.
Did he ever shoot anybody with it?
Don’t think so. He did use an AK in Desert Storm after being shot down.
Whitch F14 squadron, I was engine mechanic at VF 31 2004-05.
In my 50’s, have owned and shot 1000’s through 1911, revolvers, DA/SA, striker fired and DA only. Today, I talk to young shooters who have never shot anything but Glocks. That’s sad. They don’t learn trigger control or the experience the beauty of an awesome DA trigger.
After trying dozens of different pistols I’ve settled on Sig P228 as my favorite. Beretta 92 LTT is in the conversation also.
I was in a Beretta armor class back in 2005. The instructor told us the story about the SEALs testing the M9. It was found that the SEALs were using high pressure proof loads. not using ammo at SAMI specs causing the slide to split in half.
Thanks "Coch", brilliant video, I still carry a pocket knife everywhere, just in case someone has cake. I started my career with the Browning, and I have not worn green for 20 plus years. And recently I saw that we are still using the High Power, only in the 21st Century version. Cheers
We (Denmark) used the P210 Neuhausen until 2020... old warhorse like the High Power...
If it ain't broke, don't fix it 😄
Years ago, I shot a small club IDPA match, and the one competitor and his daughter brought a cake to celebrate her birthday. As luck would have it, they forgot their knife, and I had mine on me. Of course I took a photo, because everyone always asked me why, and I also said 'to cut a cake if needed'! Now there was proof *lol*
In Canada, our Forces still use the Hi-Power as well... but it's the 20th century version (as in 1939-1945 Inglis production).
My father was special forces and got me into sigs and never looked back. Ive got a 229 elite , 226 mk25, and a 226 legion my edc is the p229 for its size !!
Starting LE in 1988, issued the following in order:
Smith and Wesson .357(Mdl 686) , P226(9mm) , P228(9mm) , Sig P229(.357 Sig) , Glock 19 (9mm). Wonder why I am Sig biased? 2 agencies and 35 years later, looking forward to some peace and quiet👍
I like "Coch's" straight-talking, concise delivery! Dude
Even tho I’m a purely recreational and competition shooter , I enjoy a highly qualified insight into the pure efficacy of firearms as tools of the trade . Great overview !
5:15 the story I've heard about the slides breaking was that the teams ordered 9mm ammo loaded to the same spec that they were running in their MP5s and that Winchester made the ammo with milspec cases that were thicker causing a significant increase in chamber pressure Christ Bartocci from Small Arms Solutions said that ammo cracked the frames on some P226s the teams were testing.
That’s what I remember hearing as well but even if that’s the case I could understand how that would mess with your head on how much you trust the pistol
Beretta changed the design of the M9 after the failures. I’ve never heard of a 226 exploding resulting in injury. Thx for posting
@@tacticalhyvecadre1049 that’s how we all got the infamous locking block. Befor it was mor like th e beretta 51.
This is true, Beretta actually sued the US Govt. and won citing the damage done to the Beretta name by the govt using out of spec ammo and putting on the pistol as the weak point. That said I own an M9 but I carry a Sig p229 daily, love the Beretta but the ergonomics of the sig are just perfect to me.
vid reminds me of my constant thoughts bringing me to the old days, better days. Im of the type that while everyone is playing music through cd's i am tuning out with 8 tracks......old style is always preferred......
Seal Dad! Surprised they didn't switch to Glock's earlier. Nice to hear you dispel some of the negative talk on the reliability of the Sigs.
Have an great weekend!
Great video, for me the most reliable gun is still HK USP in 9x19...but I always want to have P226Navy for my own :)
Technical corrective note: HK was first to integral rails on pistols with the USP (1990) not Glock. Glocks did not introduce the rails on their pistols until Gen 3 (1998).
cant wait to get some usp’s
I’m ex Navy Reserve 9.5 years
Thank you for everything you do and for showing us the basic. 🙏🙏🙏
I really like this sort of content. And, I really enjoy the manner in which you present it, Coch. It feels like just hanging out and listening to your buddy.
I think I’ve watched all of COACH’s videos. Very relaxing as he remind me of my father and older FROGMAN (UDT). I loved my P226 I got when I got out of the Marines. Sold it to a fried and wished. I hadn’t.
Love your content Mark. Always well presented, you have a great demeanour for a teacher (an obvious throw back to your Instructor days) and really interesting to listen to your experiences.
Interestingly our SADF Recce's are running P226's now after transitioning from Beretta 92's (and variants thereof), unfortunately nowadays (with corruption being endemic) we're always behind the curve. Our elite police paramilitary force, the SAPS Special Task force are running Glocks after transitioning away from their tried 'n tested H&K USP's which they ran since the late 90's. Almost all in 9x19, but with some guys opting for .40's as well. I see we're also starting to run more AR-15's than we used to, moving away from the R1- R6 series of rifles.
Thanks for sharing Mark. Best wishes from South Africa.
The P226 is legendary. I love that gun!
Good honest video. The Beretta and SIG Sauer 226 are classy pistols. My husband and I have both in our firearms collection, beautiful pistols and craftsmanship.
Unfortunately these pistols can be expensive in 2024.
The Beretta GTS is similar to the 92 and can be found on sale for a reasonable price.
Thanks for your service 🙏
Great video! I love seeing these videos about the history of firearms in the seals. It would be really cool to see a similar format video about rifles.
Yes please 🙏
While I was in the Navy in the early-mid 90s, on board ship we still used the 1911 for Petty Officer of the Watch and the Rover.
Enjoyed your trip down memory lane. I bought a police trade in P226. Puts thousands of rounds through it without issue and sold it to a buddy. I love Sig!!!
Always look forward to those informative videos from the “Coach”. Always delivered with that cool, calm demeanor.
Code name “Happy”, there’s nothing happy about your hairline or poor vision though.
The military new 9 mm ammo m1152 is a game changer. Hot with flat point for the 9. Other wise I think the 45 does have more one shot stop over especially with the double tap ammo than your average 115 grain round nose in my opinion. Great video thank you for your service
By far my favorite RUclips channel. Been following your channel for a while. Learned a lot , laughed a lot. Keep up the good work.
The FN P35 and the SIG 226 are my two favorite pistols of all time. Great video.
Good stuff. I always enjoy your videos.
Thank you for your service. Never had a Sig but your endorsement of them says a LOT.
Hey Coch, great vid,. Ret. LE., two of your classes in Escondido, still benefiting from the extra attention ! Thanks ! Will always view your vids . . Take care.
...so interesting listening to the SEALS discuss their equipment. Those guys are the most impressive people on the planet IMHO.
For a change, a great YT suggestion. I really enjoyed the video. My military career in SF started in 81 and all we had available was revolvers. Eventually we transitioned to pistols. Subscribed!
Good stuff Coch. I was lucky enough to pick up a Mk25 in great shape. It is my favorite pistol in my collection. I also have a 1911 just because 😉 - love that fun too. Keep up the good work.
Enjoyed listening to ya. Watching MK25 videos just because, but ya dragged me into all the rest. Solid lineup.
I really like your no bullshit take on things . Thank you for your service.
Great video Coch! My fortay is handguns and I love hearing about what pistols used to be available. I prefer older metal guns like the Sig 226 and Colt 1911. Take care brother! ✌️
Nice presentation. When I got to my duty station in 1991 (1/501 PIR) we still had 1911's. 🤔
Great to see the love for the 226
Mk25 is an awesome gun. Carried one as a support guy for a deployment.
Very cool to share your personal history with these handguns.
First 30 secs of this video was fantastic
Love all the Tac-Hyve guys, and though I don't like to pick favorites, Coch is my favorite nonetheless. I waste no time in watching one of his videos when I see it pop up in my feed! Though I've been shooting on and off for most of my life, I'm about two years into shooting as a serious endeavor. I love the videos on the pistol stuff since, as a civilian, that has been my focus for both home defense and CCW. Like Coch, I must live in the always beautiful Commiefornia for my gig, so of course my options are a bit limited. I have settled on a G17 for home defense and a Shield for CCW. I guess it could be worse!
The Hi-Power (L9a1 in British service) was the standard issue service pistol for the British Army until 2014 when they switched to the Glock 17 gen.4 which is issued to every soldier in the British Army now. Every British Army soldier is equipped with a Glock 17 gen.4.
Damn, didn’t know Coch was in DG, guess that’s why there’s always that added level of professionalism and cool demeanor with him.
Any thoughts on the Devgru guys recently jumping back to the SIG after being seen and promoting the 320 X5? Both active and recently retired seem to prefer it after having grown with the 226s. Guess the glock grip angle never stuck on.
Also DOD bought a bunch of SIG contracts after their service pistol competition. The Army in particular is phasing in the M17 which is the mil spec P320. Seeing what Sig is doing both with the MCX and their prototype Squad Support weapon, I’d say we’re gonna be seeing a lot more from this company.
😆 "Nightmare's" nightmare at 5:06 ... thanks for the tactical anecdote! I'm sorry he lost teeth ... but what a great story, now!
Always love listening to Coch! Appreciate your time making these.
I've owned at least one of everything on the table, still have the 1911's, and bought a P226 Navy yesterday.
Love my Sig P229 in .357. I wore the first one out, it was 1st gen, then was issued the updated version - never had any issues with it. Then when I got out I bought the P229SAS model…absolutely love it.
Really well done and informative. I’m curious when the Seals stopped using the HK USP 45. (Like the Mark 23?)
It’s large but is dead on zeroed, has great level of recoil and is really accurate. I use it for protection fishing in bear country with 45 hard cast P+p. Barely large enough.
Thanks for your good work. Very interesting discussion.
I love my Glocks but nothing beats my first love and that’s the Sig P226.
Coch and Dorr are probably the coolest, most professional presenters on YT.
I like your videos. You simple, clear, honest and real. Its refreshing to find a guy not flexing his ego in every video. You allow us to consider you ideas.
Thanks. I'll be watching all your videos.
Semper Fi
I think you should keep this up. You are experienced at this. Great for folks to learn!
Love your casual laid back style! You ever have drinks with Dick Marcinko? I met him at a book signing in the early 90s. You remind me of him a little
Out of those the Beretta 92 is my pick for sure. This is thanks to Langdon Tactical renewed my love of the 92 with the Elite LTT. Second pick is the P226. Overall it is to bug for my hand. The DA trigger reach is way too long for me. With different grips and short reach trigger, I can make it work. Recently got a P226 SAO and it is perfect!
I was a military police officer and carried the m9 and later m11 pistols on duty. The issue with engaging the safety on the m9 was fixed by a field modification to the manual of arms. To rack the weapon with safety off we would grasp the slide to the front in the indentation. Our hands would be safely behind the barrel and the indent would gives us a purchase on the weapon and the safety would not be inadvertently applied. I still occasionally carry an L model beretta 92 on occasion.
From a shootability perspective, I agree on the 92; however that hammer drop safety is awful. I have often done exactly what Mark mentioned about engaging the hammer drop safety when dry firing. That's where the older SAO 92's were amazing. That P226 SAO is a dream pistol, CONGRATS! They're too damn expensive in my country to even contemplate (around $2000), so Glocks and M&P 2.0's are what I rock nowadays.
Best wishes from South Africa.
Great video. I discovered your channel a month or so ago so now I’m watching all your videos.Love the content and thank you for your service and sharing your experience
Great review ! Good information on each hand gun. First time watching your videos… seems like a pretty good RUclips channel… straightforward , good stuff, keep the videos coming..
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Senior Chief, Retired
Enjoy your video. You had a lot of nice pieces there. I like how you say it’s only a secondary weapon that’s true. I’ve carried firearms in the service and out of the service. My favorite has always been the 45 for the knockdown power. The GI 45 served me well. I also own a Sigg 228. A little bit higher around capacity, but in 9 mm. The double action single action is pretty easy to get used to. It was lighter than my 45. My every day carry is a colt 45 Commander. Aluminum frame it was made in 1965. It’s nice and light with the eight round Wilson combat mag and one in the chamber caulked and locked. It’s like to carry handy. Has never let me down. It’s stock from the factory with the Lil sites that don’t snag. I personally liked the little sites that John Browning put on hi them. My buddy Al. Was in Southeast Asia in the early days he was in the first air Calvary. He was in a foxhole in the perimeter when the choppers were down for the night. He radioed in that he heard something moving he was told to stay put. Before Dawn they heard shot ring out the radio was dead. They went to go check on Al. When they found him there was a 6 1/2 foot tiger on top of him. The tiger was dead. I was OK. Al. Died a few years ago of Agent Orange. He was a hell of a friend and soldier. The 45 with hardball will kill anything I think it’s a lot better than nine that convince me. Take care. Enjoy your videos. Every day above ground is a good day.
Love my Mk25. Btw thank you for your service.
Considering that secondary weapons will rarely be deployed. Is it better to have a full size service pistol for your backup, Or a sub compact? Modern ccw pistols are very similar to the military and police pistols carried in the past. What about something like the S&W shield plus? It is large enough to shoot easily. Smaller and lighter than full frame guns. While using ten round magazines.
Sign 236 mK 25 is definitely a nice pistol.
My husband nor I have one yet. It's definitely on our list as they are classy pistols.
Thank you for your service and sharing your video.
God bless 🙏👌
“We’ve come along why a little” 45acp will always be king my man.
Carried a P220 myself (same sized sidearm) on Sheriff Reserve. Love that gun and since I personally had to purchase it, I still own her. I've run more than 40k rounds through her in various schools and competitions and it only let me down twice, one was a broken recoil spring (still fired if I manually cycled the action) and the other was because I got non-factory mags and they were JUNK. Besides my Sig the only other sidearm I'd want as a duty firearm would be a Glock 17 or an M&P9. Never had a M&P in the field, but know more than one who did and never had a bad thing to say about them. Also havnt had my hands on the new Army issue sidearm, but I've heard good things.
Love my Glocks as well as my P226 elite and P229 Legion.
Just discovered this channel. Very knowledgeable. Subscribed..
The magazine cut out can be removed from the Hi Power. It will improve trigger and will fire with the magazine removed.
Nice! Just one small thing. The first manufacturer to put a rail on a pistol was HK (MK23, USP40, etc) in 1993. Same for aggressive stippling and grip cut outs.
BZ! Mark , always love hearing your gouge - Would really enjoy attending a training event some day and chopping it up about your exploits. I remember tv watching during gulf 1 on night 1, and CNN had a camera on the beach in the faces of some Team guys, I can only imagine what was going through their minds.
I EDC a MK-25 now. Of all the sidearms I've owned or been issued (military and law enforcement) this one is by far my favorite.
All my semi autos are SIG classics but one, the Smith and Wesson 3913 . I am a revolver shooter. Having been a hunter I used a revolver whenever it was out of season to have a rifle or bow in the field. I don't collect auto guns but I will snag multiple "K" or "L" frames. Looking to expand my single actions. Only own two now. Both Rugers, Single Six and a Super Blackhawk. Hope to get a Colt.
No usp 45 variants in the teams? Great video by the way.
There are now, in my day it was the MK23
I own berettas, sigs, CZs and a springfield armory xds mod2… i have to say that i love my Beretta M9A3 most of all.
I have a p226 legion DA/SA and will not go back to anything else. Amazing handgun
The magazine disconnect in the hi power is quite easy to remove. Great video. I love and own all these guns. Given these choices though, I'm probably going 226. Love your videos and presentation. Thank you for your service. You're a real life American badass.
Desert Storm, saddest day had turn in my 1911 for an M-9, also had a Browning Hi Power that I felt was more the right size of a 9mm, bought a Marine Ka-Bar. Was an MP but never got the trip to the sand box, stayed at Ft Hood whole war.
Loved the P226.
Circa 1917, a corporal named "York" was very effective with his standard issue Colt 45 Gov't. model. He was no slouch with the 03 Springfield either.
I Could listen to this guy talk guns all day long 🤙🏾
Great show! 😉
Excellent and Outstanding!!!!
Thank You!!!!
Great information...Navy 🇺🇸 1988-1994
Great talk! Thank you.
Cheers Warrior, I was only the for support. Warheads for the call, Aviation. Hope we made you day a time or two.
Cool, next need Army Special Forces operator soon
Thanks very much Coch for your insights and for passing along your knowledge. Your vids are excellent.
Thank you for your information. Lot of dust on the subject. Appreciate your clarity
Another great history lesson.. thanks Boss
Thanks for your service to the USA and great video.
Funny that the HK Mk.23 wasn't mentioned, I take it not many members took it out very often.
There was never a weak point with the Beretta 92. The incident being described was found to be the result of an ammo issue, not a gun issue.
Yes there was a week point. The gun was redesigned and production was moved to a new facility. They changed material in the slide and added a catch component to the frame. Beretta tried to blame ammo as the reason. Army investigation found that to be false. Thx for posting
The Beretta was the most unreliable pos none of them ran good!! I will never buy one
@@higherlifts420 that’s a common opinion, I noticed (not a large number of them I was exposed to, as a leg grunt) that the ones I handled and was around, and the one deployment that I actually had one, that they seemed to have been really beat up and suffered from years of dismal maintenance, abuse, and lack of attention in general. I also said I’d never have one.
Fast forward a bit, and upon firing my uncle’s Italian made and well maintained Brigadier that it was perhaps not the platform overall that was bad, maybe a lot of the examples in service that were badly maintained, old, and generally used and abused played a role.
Fast forward even more, and I got my hands on the M9a3, with a redesigned frame and a lot of improvements, as well as being an Italian produced example. It’s quickly become my favorite pistol, and a few more joined the line up. The Italian produced ones have great fit and finish; I’ve only had my hands on one US produced example, but the fit and finish was not quite as nice as my Italian made ones.
Maybe check out the M9a3, it may change your opinion; it’s definitely not your old military M9, that’s for sure. I get the M9 hate, but the M9a3 (especially Italian made ones) can definitely change some opinions.
@@higherlifts420 more for me
The first time I ever saw a Navy Seal, was at the Chocolate Mountains, and they were carrying Ruger Revolvers, we asked them about it, they told us it was the best gun for swimming out there.
Smith and Wesson 686’s were issued in the 80’s, 90’s. They were still around in the 2000’s. Never saw any issued Rugers. But guys carried whatever they wanted.
SW 22 air light, HK USP, Makarov 9 and 380 auto, SW J frame 38 special DA
Great video, there’s just something reassuring and “cool” about having a good ol metal frame hammer fired gun with iron sights. After shooting polymer striker fired wonder nines for years I just got my first DA/SA a month ago and I’m hooked (cz 75 p-01 compact). Put 500 rounds through it in a month. I trust it fully now. Next in my list is a p226 for sure. Wanted one forever. Way better than the p320/m17/m18!
I like your choices! Worked with 1UK division in '03 in Iraq and got to qual with the Brits Browning High Power - Nice gun! In my time as a medic/HM, I got to shoot/qual with the .38 M10, 1911, M-9 and Fam fired the Sig P226.
Hi Coch, I started my training many years ago on the high power🇬🇧.... Great videos on your times as an SF operator love to see even more on modern update s on gear and training etc, could you do a video on your knives and knife techniques etc..we always carried a racing spoon just in case their was any cake on offer 😜 cheer's 🇬🇧
I was still using the Browning in 1991 in the UK. Excellent pistol.
It would seem to me that outside the U.S. 9mm would be easier to scrounge up if necessary.
Rule #1- Acquire a weapon.
if all I had was my secondary, I would use it to acquire a rifle....SkS, AK, Mosin, it wouldn't matter. Indigenous arms + ammo (assuming the person you took it from didn't need it anymore) would work for me.
P.S.- totally surprised the OHWS Mark 23 wasn't mentioned.