Used an M14 in Vietnam with the USMC. Yes it was heavy, the ammo was heavy, it was long and cumbersome in the bush, but I can tell you that I never heard another Marine complain about the beast in a firefight. I spent 19 months on my first tour as a forward observer, working in bedded with the 1st , and 9th Marines. Second tour in 69-70, I was a section chief (gun commander) of an M109, SP 155mm howitzer. When I arrived in country the 1st Sergeant wanted to issue me an M16. As a Sergeant I requested an M14 and it was provided. I sawed off the butt because it was to long for the tight quarters inside the gun. Thirty two months in that shithole provided me with an intimate relationship with the Springfield M14 with a selector switch. Own one today, 50 years later, and it still is the best. Never failed to fire, would clean it everyday and it provided the protection and piece of mind. It put many enemy in the dirt.
LT Frederick Downs jr wrote a book about his experiences in Viet Nam and he describes how he assigned the M14 to point men. so the initial shots taken by that element would not be as likely to deflect in underbrush. Right or wrong it shows the respect given the M14 by that LT and how it might help save his men's lives.
My 1st rifle in the Corps, love it. Looking to get one soon. The only thing i hate about the rifle is in boot camp we had to practice the manual of arms back to back. If the fool you was backed up to you didn't do it right. The flash suppressor was going to bang your head hard. Sadly i got lots of bumps and 1 that was bleeding. Still love this rifle. SFMF
I like your style of delivery "Coch", it comes to me as genuine, real, down to earth, and so American. You should be the primary host of this channel, and all these videos. Period. 'Merica
Love these videos. It's like being in school. Big respect for you and all of the veteran commenters below. I got out of the Army in '79 and saw no battles but my brother served for 20 years and was all over the place and my son served with the 10th mountain division in Afghanistan. God Bless America.
I carried an M14 when I was in Vietnam 67 / 68. I was attached to Hqbn 3rd Marine Spec unit 2. I Corp. The only prob I had with it , toooo long. An it had a. Straight wood stock. I don't recall when the E 2 stock was avertible, but that was a big improvement. A few years after I was a civilian again, I bought an M 1A an found an E2 stock. And swore to myself I wood keep that weapon until I died. Well got hard up for money an ya know what happen then. I had 24 long guns an about the same handguns. No longer. Got a divorce and weapons divorced me. Well at. Least I can say I had em. SEMPER FI P.S. I also had an FN FAL, which I loved, that was one accurate rifle. I could hit schit like you wouldn't believe. Yeah it's gone too excuse me while I cry in my beer. Why couldn't I sell the wife and kept the guns?
G3 served my dear country of Portugal as main rifle for 69 years, it was used in the jungles of Africa during the colonial War that lasted 13 years, it might not be the best but it's for sure reliable and effective
I agree completely with your list, except one omission. I have a couple of the rifles on your list, including the SCAR 17. Fantastic gun. Only drawback is it is slightly heavy.weight. The Patriot Ordnance Factory Rogue, with the 9 position Dictator adjustable gas block is my favorite This .308 weighs 5.9lbs naked. Equipped with a Vortex 3x18 scope, a SureFire light, a sling and 25 round Lancer mag, it feels like a very light AR-15. It is very reliable, suppressed or unsupressed, and, is 1-2 MOA accurate, which is fine for a tactical rifle. The SCAR 17 was developed about 15 years before the Rogue, and was state of the art in 2004. Now thePOF is a new generation of Battle Rifles. I would recommend picking one up and see how it feels at your LGS, but it will cost you a couple of grand if you do, as you will not want to leave the store without one. If you cannot see yourself using a Battle Rifle for CQB, or while walking, it is less of a value. But for the price, it really has no competitor. The closest would probably be the Ruger SFAR. I like Ruger firearms and have one of their pistols,but the SFAR I looked at seemed cheaply made and the parts seemed cheap as well, to me. All the rifles on your list are classics, and will get the job done. But the lightweight, relatively cheap, and light recoiling POF Rogue is number one on MY list.
Battle rifles were the thing we needed in Afghanistan. I carried a pimped out G3 on my last Bundeswehr tour in Afghanistan . 1-4 Short dot and a stock that was cut for body armor. My G36 stayed in camp 95% of the time . In an urban centric aoo like Ukraine I would only pick a 7.62 ( G3 or SCAR 17) as a DMR .
Interesant Marcus, danke. I would agree with you on x51 for a DMR, the M110 would be my pick for no.1 spot. It's not a battle rifle, but then again most battle rifles do not work well for a DMR capability, without some after-market work on them. The SCAR-17 makes a lot of sense for a modern battle rifle and that would be my pick.
Danke für Ihren Dienst dort in Afghanistan!!! Es schmerzt mich immer wieder wofür Ihr eigentlich da ward.....und in Berlin stehen Sie immer noch nicht zu euch Veteranen!!!! Zum Kotzen...
The HK G3 and FN SCAR-H (MK 17) are battle rifles, not designated marksman rifles. If you're looking for DMR versions of those rifles, I recommend you go for the HK MSG90A2 or the FN SCAR TPR (MK 20 SSR), respectively. Since you served in the Bundeswehr, I'm surprised you wouldn't go for an HK 417A2 battle rifle or an HK G28 designated marksman rifle if you were operating in a Ukrainian urban center. If you ask me, the HK G3, like the FN FAL and the M14, is a bit outdated.
@@Trenex1000 I am not Marcus but I am so cheeky to answer for him: HK 417A2 battle rifle is not used by the BW. HK G28 designated marksman rifle was introduced around 2012 as a replacement for the G3 DMR. There are not many around. So the answer of Marcus is most likely: because I don't know these guns. The G3 and the G36 are the standart issue guns in service in all branches. "If you ask me, the HK G3, like the FN FAL and the M14, is a bit outdated." What makes them outdated? They are reliable, accurate and use a full power cartidge. They do everything a rifle is supposed to do. The G3 is conciderable lighter than the G28. Even if equiped as DMR. It also has a full auto setting which the G28 doesn't. The G28 is only really superiour in a rather sniper like DMR role. At long ranges and static. The G3 is lighter and easier to wield. Its better at closer ranges and if you need to be mobile. Which for me would make it the more sensible pick for MOUT IMHO.
I have a m14 scout model, that thing is heavy but man it is accurate and shoots lights out, one of the greatest rifles I own! I luv that rifle! Thanks for your service you deserve an adult drink!
From 12 to 18 yrs old I shot the FNFAL in the New Zealand cadet forces. Earning my Marksman’s rating with them. They were made under licence in Australia, and we simply called them the SLR (Self loading rifle) after they replace the SMLE Lee Enfield used up to that time. We only got the SLR because our army was changing over the M16 and it’s variants. Heavy rifle, but that helped its accuracy over longer ranges.
The M14 always gets me because people will talk trash about how "it's a terrible gun". They say the M1 Garand was a great gun, but somehow you take the Garand, chamber it in 7.62 Nato, shorten the receiver, put a box magazine on it, and redesign the gas system to be smaller, and save almost 1/2 of weight, and somehow it becomes the worst rifle ever. (Yes the full Auto was awful and unusable.) If the M14 had come out 10 years sooner, it would be a different story
Love my Galil Ace in 7.62x51. My G3 and StG58 are also excellent weapons. You can mitigate the G3 recoil by installing a heavy buffer instead of the stock one. I love the G3 platform, robust, reliable, and accurate. Magazines are cheap and readily available. The G3 is one of the few weapons that will eject spent brass even when the extractor is broken. This is due to the chamber flutes that allow the gases from the fired round to push the spent brass rearward, along with the bolt carrier and the ejector kicks the brass out the ejection port. The G3 is surprisingly controllable in full auto, something the M14 isn't. The only real drawback to the design is that it lacks a bolt hold open. But, if you train properly with it, it's not such a big deal. The Scar is a nice rifle, but the price is a bit high. I know you have to weigh the value of your life to balance with what you need. I guess it's all in personal preference. I've always liked the 7.62x51 round. Maybe I'm just a dinosaur. Anyhow, thank you for the honesty and the video. Thank you for your service. God bless America.
I love that Coch just sits down with a bottle of whiskey and just talks to the audience like he’s sitting in a lounge somewhere talking to someone over drinks. It really engages the audience. Great list.
From your first drink l knew you were the one to watch ..The way you present is down to earth .. l was thrilled till the end and couldn't wait to hit the subscribe and thumbs up button . You nail it on the evolution of weapons from this time . To get this all from a Navy SEAL is priceless
Good presentation and fun to watch. Still, I have to say I'm sticking with my .30-40 Krag because almost no one knows what it is. Plus the ammo is super light to carry because it's almost impossible to find anymore.
I'm glad that you included the M1A, I'm from Canada and use it for everything from short & long range target practice with my daughter to hunting just about anything with the guy's. Hell, all the rifles you mentioned I'd be glad to own!!!
Is the recoil of the 7.62mmX51mm really that bad? I think people have grown so accustomed to the 5.56mm that anything else becomes oh so harsh, for lack of a better term.
It’s really not that bad. Especially if you have an effective muzzle device &/or buffer system, and some heft, it’s plenty serviceable. But of course you have people who complain that 7.62x39 is too harsh. If they think that’s harsh, they should try 10ga turkey loads or some .45-70!
In a semi-automatic package, it's manageable though generally even the best shooters will be able to easily put rounds on target with 5.56 or even 7.62x39 in a rapid string vs the majority of 7.62x51 rifles. 7.62x51 offers a lot of punch but there is stout recoil behind it, and if you're a shooter that prioritises getting as many rounds on target in a short amount of time (not accounting full-auto though see Ian from Forgotten Weapons try to tame a full-auto M14) though properly configured weapon systems can help mitigate this. Still, there are other factors why someone would prefer using a smaller calibre rifle over full power 30 cal rounds, namely ammo capacity, reduced concussion, mitigate overpenetration...
There are 2 answers. 1) yes, many men are girly men and are scared of .308 recoil. The way I fixed my recoil issues is I bought and shot hundreds of rounds of 12ga buckshot. So "sensitivity" can be fixed. 2) he is not talking about "I'm scared of recoil." He is talking about follow-up shots and how much punch there is and the momentum of all that steel. So yes, that does make it harder to do a good hammer pair or quickly dump 5 rounds into a bad guy at CQB distance. Guys using 7.62x39 or 7.62x51 use all sorts of breaks/compensators and guys with 5.56 or 5.45 still beat them in the time and accuracy departments. So Coch is dead on.
I agree, the M14 was a great rifle but very long. I used one at Marine Barracks in our guard vehicles , civilian pick up trucks. Hard to move around with and we even broke windshields because the rifle had to be pulled up from the rifle mount to deploy.
The good old G3. Had that for my conscription year in the Norwegian army and then for years in the Norwegian Home Guard. In Norway its called AG-3. Great rifle. We have now moved to the HK416.
As a Scar H owner.....THANK YOU for your input is those features! Love my scar and a lot of those features makes it so much nicer to use compared to my AR.
The rifle that's really got my attention is the POF Revolution DI. It's an AR10 in an AR15 size frame and weighs just under 7 pounds. I don't have one yet but that thing looks like a pretty sweet set-up.
I agree and I’ve been wanting one as well, but that light weight with a full 308 is going to be hefty in the recoil department. I think I’ll hunt for a 6.5 if I ever go for it.
I do love the M14/M1A. Competed with the M14 for several years on my unit's rifle team back in the 90's. The AR platform, what can be said that already hasn't? It's a proven system. My newest one was purpose "built" for long range work. Has a 24" heavy barrel chambered in 6mm ARC. Almost the power of .308 w/out the recoil. You can definitely tell impacts on steel at 1k yds. The FAL, I had a imbel stg58. It was fun to shoot, recoil wasn't bad at all but it was very inaccurate. I don't know if that was common for the rifle or if it was just a manufacturer thing. Have never had the opportunity to fire a G3/91 nor the SCAR.
To be fair the HK G3 is a direct descendant from the spanish CETME B, developed in Spain by german engeneers after WW2! These rifles have their roots in WW2 German assault rifle Stg45, developed by Mauser. After WW2, some Mauser men moved to Spain and started to work for CETME, where they developed the Mod. B battle rifle, chambered for 7.62mm NATO cartridge
@@Ahabite if you have an early rebuild made by the grinder monkeys at century arms you would be right, but the cetmes built by ptr for century are excelent rifles.
@Mark Cochiolo I don't think it would be boring at all. I think people would find it interesting how from a "how does it work" standpoint would be a cool video. After I r tired from the Army I became friends with a guy who owns a Sturmgewehr 44. When he first got it he had me come over and check it out. I asked him has he taken it apart yet? No was his answer. I look d it over for about a minute then field stripped it without ever having done it before. The M-249, 240B, CETME, FAL, M-16 series share so much with the Stg-44 I can't list them all. That Coch would make a great video. Like a Lineage themed video.
For 18 mos in Vietnam I had an M-14. I liked it for many reasons, but the most important reason was that when you ran out of ammunition you could use it as a club. Or when you were facing a riotous mob you could butt stroke people. This was in Vietnam, the mob part. I guess alot of you have never run out of ammo in combat. But I did. Even without ammo I felt I was armed with the M-14.
I finally got a M14SA from LRB of Long Island: 18 inch barrel, welded gas selector, all forged steel parts, glass bedded composite stock...dead on accurate and reliable. Backing it up is my "demilled" original USMC M14 (welded selector notch) which I qualified for through the CMP 30+ years ago. Great weapons!
I think you made some excellent picks! All of them are great rifles! I own a PTR91 which is basically an American made HK91/G3 and I love it. Sure it's a bit heavy at around 10 pounds but the weight actually helps a bit with the recoil and the Witt Machine SME 308 muzzle brake I have on it takes down a lot of recoil. I have a Magpul PRS 2 stock on it and all in all I love the rifle!
There's something to be said about the PTR91/G3/CETME whatever HK91 you own. My friend has one with a nice 4 power optic and it just goes where you put it at 300 yards
Same... I have a PTR as well... But I wouldn't say that it "kicks like a mule" by a longshot... Personally I think the recoil is less than my friend's M1A.... But like he said: It's his list. ;)
I love these picks. I stumbled on a G3 clone for $375, military supply shop run and got 6 mags and a sling for another $25 -30 bucks. Now I have a 400 m 'get the hell outta the neighborhood rifle'.
My mum trained on the FN-C1 when she was in the army reserves in Canada in the 70s and hated it. She is just over 5 feet tall and found the recoil to be extremely harsh and the overall weight made the rifle awkward for her to move. Had nothing but praise for the Sterling SMG though!
Man, this dude is Old School Frog-man unlike so many others writing books, movies and being Spot lights seals. True Quiet professional. Especially when he said that M14.
Solid list, Coch. My gunslinger days are behind me. No list, but some quick observations: -M110 aside, the SR-25 is my preferred system. It does everything. Especially the ACC and CC models. It will adequately shoot M80 ball. -The 417 is great if you can’t get a SCAR 20 or an SR-25. These rifles are really more Sniper/DMR rifles but still fully capable of taking down vics or installations. -The SCAR, as mentioned, had fleas but I believed in it as the 21st Century FAL. It truly is the modern ‘Battle Rifle’. It’s light which is a plus and simple. People forget what ‘battle rifle’ truly implies. If I can’t teach an illiterate conscript to use it vs man machine nor beast; then it isn’t a battle rifle -The M14 was more reliable for what it was than most realize. My experience in the 90s mirrors your own. Once they made shorter barrels, it found a niche. Still old news like the G3 and FAL(which I have no use for)
I mean if it gets adopted and the military sticks with it I'm sure tons of them will, just as a matter of keeping up. I'm excited too, but it means (in my opinion. I could be very wrong, and often am lol) that since rifles will have to be built really robustly to handle 50BMG+ levels of pressure, that I believe there will be fewer budget options than there are now with AR's. I'm pumped to see what gets done with it though, and I wonder if Textron- I believe it was them anyway- will continue developing that polymer-cased variant of the 6.8/.277
I think even if the XM5 doesn't stick around the XM250 probably will, and also the army is looking at 6.8x51 conversion kits for the M240, so I'd say the cartridge has a good chance of catching on. That absurdly high maximum operating pressure may be an issue with some designs, though.
@@bertblue9683 says a guy whos probably never shot it. I think its the right rifle and squad weapon. But wrong caliber for the rifle and perfect for the squad weapon. But then again, ive never shot it so i dont know for sure. I think the 6mm arc would have been a better choice.
If it is an improvement. Yes . Targets I engaged in Afghanistan were at an extended range! In hiding and optics were lacking! The 7.62 was effective but the .300 win or .416 Barret would have been a blessing in most cases. It is what it is. I do see it as a step in the right direction. As for all conflicts weapons needs very for the final applications! Bless all who have served 🙏 and never forget those we lost in battle!
I own, owned, or have used four of the top five picks. I have no experience with the SCAR, so I won't comment on it. My favorite on your list is the FAL. I love that rifle, but many hate it because they are heavy and often well worn. I built some shortened ones from kits and installed barrels I had cut down to 18" and 19", which I found were a lot handier. I trained on the M-14, but when it came to buying a M1a, I really wanted the 18" version, which was pricey. I settled on a BM-59 instead, mainly because of its more robust magazine. If I were going to war, I would have chosen the M1A Squad Scout instead. The AR10 is nice, bu I wish it were a bit lighter and smaller. I am curious to try one of the lightweight hybrid rifles that is built on a redesigned AR15 receiver. As for the G-3, I owned an HK91 back in the 1980s. It was a heavy beast with an equally heavy trigger pull and a long recoil impulse. The empty casings landed in the next county and were discolored with flutes, but still reloadable. I made the mistake of trading it for an original CZ75 that one of our NCOs had brought back from Lebanon. At the time it seemed like a good deal because the CZ was unobtanium and HKs were still being imported. Yeah, I'm still kicking myself over that decision.
Nice! As Marine 72-76`we qualify with the M-14 in boot camp but in ITS it was the M-16 then on, but as far as dinking! The 14 kickass on anything over 200 yards! You being a Seal you got to carry anything you wanted to hump! Dig the video! Sinn Fein Byrne
Glad to see two of my favorites on the list. The G3 and M14. I also owned a semi FAL at one time... But the trigger pull was horrendous... So I sold it.
I own 2 M1A’s . The scout squad and SOCOM 16. The SOCOM is my favorite gun, hands down. Love the 16” barrel length , love the power, recoil isn’t too bad, the iron sights are exceptional and it looks cool as hell. The world ends tomorrow, she’s the one I’m dancing with until death 💀 Edit : forgot to mention stripper clips. I run an aim point pro on the scout rail which looks kinda weird that far up the barrel but I do it so I can still use stripper clips which are awesome.
Great video. I had an FN FAL back in the 1990's. It was long and heavy but it would digest anything. Burned through a case of Portuguese 7.62mm Nato surplus ammo with no malfunctions.
I appreciate your comments. The #s 5, 4, & 3 I had experience with. Had a G3 (select fire) assigned to the unit. We put 5000 rounds thru same attempting to have a 👍😊🇺🇸malfunction. Never did experience a malfunction. The plate holding the roller bearings broke, but like a timex watch the rifle kept functioning.
I should also add as a kid growing up in the 60,s and 70,s I also thought the M1A barrel was too long! Imagine my surprise when SA came out with the M1A Scout! I wish however they would CHROME LINE the barrels.
Completely agree on the AR10, up until the M5, was my favorite. When the chit hits the fan you don't notice recoil, and the terminal ballistics of the .308 far surpasses the 5.56. The 6.8mm looks even better.
Nice video! It's interesting to see the evolution of the technologies, certainly today we have improved everything but I wouldn't underestimate any opponent carrying one of these weapons.
I was issued and trained with the M1 Garand. Later qualified with the M-14 before I got out. If I was a collector, I would be interested in the 1903 Springfield, M1 Garand, M1A full size, and the AR-15 (now banned in CT). I was at about the last period between the Korean War and the Vietnam War. Only deployments were the Bay of Pigs Invasion and the Cuban Missile Crisis. Thanks Chief (don't know which rank).
Additional: in the 1960 period, we were issued all the 762 gear of WWII and Korea. I loved it because I watched all the WWII and Korean War movies as a young teenager and got to see all their gear, such as the M1 and the .45 Auto, which I later carried.
I neither agree or disagree, you were the one putting in the work and your team too. That said you have not only your experience but theirs to draw off of. SEALS put in more work than just about anybody in the field and your opinion is one of Decades of experience. I myself served in 3/75th in the nineties in the army for four years and I can firmly say what you say makes sense. Although most of those rifles are heavy by weight standards work horses, reliability is the primary issue, secondary to weight / ergonomics. Personally I would have leaned more on the AR-10 for a harder hitting weapon, I have never fired a SCAR so I cannot comment on this weapon although I have heard many great reviews, but until I try one, the reviews are about as good as a fart in the wind. I think that it is OUTSTANDING that we can hear and see what the procurement process through actually fielding and use to other variables such as comparisons to like weapons from a man who is as qualified as you are.
M1A is accurate and on my list as well. Just a lot of rifle to hump. Glad I found your channel. U earned the sub. Looking forward to watching your stuff
I enjoyed your list and if you really want to fire Sig Sauer battle rifle, go to the Sig Sauer freedom days in NH in October, sign up is in June, saw it in action in phoenix in may during Sig Sauer freedom days and it’s beautiful!
The M1A Scout 18 inch is so underrated. Its really the best battle rifle from that era pre-M lok. I chose the SIG 716I just because it had M 1A accuracy and modern ergonomics. I don't have the income to hang with the military today, MCX Spear and the real 277 fury 6.8X51 combat load.
From a straight shooting enjoyment aspect, which is personal, I like M14/M1A the most. Definitely not my first choice for “combat” but there is just something I like about them.
I was in the German military. The G3s were awful compared to FN-FAL. The recoil and muzzle climb made for sub-optimal follow up shots. Then there was the safety issue you mentioned and the position of the magazine.
It feels like honor to hear a Seal talking about his Top 5 and to see a HK G3 in his list. My good old and trusted service weapon. The G36 is not so bad as many think. But the G3 is a serious gamechanger in the right hands. If i want to fight against a target 500m or 600m away, i just have to put the selector switch on single shot and pull the trigger few times. With the G36, i have to walk 200m before i do the same...
When it comes to classic battle rifles Ar10 is first followed by G3, sig 510, fal and lastly m14. Now for modern battle rifles the only option is scar h, other similar offerings are still waiting for adoption or rather they are not combat proven or at least have to be procurement tested.
Outstanding! I have m1a standard with a little mod to it that I did myself. I don't care what some people say about it , it is a accurate rifle. I'm hiting a paper plate at 400 yards with it . The picture of you with the m14 I see it looks like you have a m1 grand rear sight with the lock bar.
It never ceases to amaze me how people will call us m1 owners liars over accuracy because they can't shoot. My m1a scout was the first real gun I'd ever shot. I grew up on old school pellet guns fyi. And I had way better grouping than my uncle who has every gun you could want and is notorious for having to have the best shit on everything. So he is very seasoned on guns and has every gun people would say I should have. To his credit he convinced me to buy it.
Love my M 1 A , always goes boom . ! I live in Bear and wolf country so 10 rounds ready to go is nice . You made great choices . There's just not enough money !!
Coch with a mohawk and an M1A is the coolest thing I have seen in a long time
U maybe cool but u'll never be that cool
Used an M14 in Vietnam with the USMC. Yes it was heavy, the ammo was heavy, it was long and cumbersome in the bush, but I can tell you that I never heard another Marine complain about the beast in a firefight. I spent 19 months on my first tour as a forward observer, working in bedded with the 1st , and 9th Marines. Second tour in 69-70, I was a section chief (gun commander) of an M109, SP 155mm howitzer. When I arrived in country the 1st Sergeant wanted to issue me an M16. As a Sergeant I requested an M14 and it was provided. I sawed off the butt because it was to long for the tight quarters inside the gun. Thirty two months in that shithole provided me with an intimate relationship with the Springfield M14 with a selector switch. Own one today, 50 years later, and it still is the best. Never failed to fire, would clean it everyday and it provided the protection and piece of mind. It put many enemy in the dirt.
I carried an M-14 in Iraq in 04-05. I loved it so much I got an M1A when I came home.
Thx for sharing guys great stuff. I used the EBR a little bit in Iraq as well.
Hoora Devil Dog. M14 is a damned good rifle in my humble opinion too.
LT Frederick Downs jr wrote a book about his experiences in Viet Nam and he describes how he assigned the M14 to point men. so the initial shots taken by that element would not be as likely to deflect in underbrush. Right or wrong it shows the respect given the M14 by that LT and how it might help save his men's lives.
My 1st rifle in the Corps, love it. Looking to get one soon. The only thing i hate about the rifle is in boot camp we had to practice the manual of arms back to back. If the fool you was backed up to you didn't do it right. The flash suppressor was going to bang your head hard. Sadly i got lots of bumps and 1 that was bleeding. Still love this rifle. SFMF
I like your style of delivery "Coch", it comes to me as genuine, real, down to earth, and so American. You should be the primary host of this channel, and all these videos. Period. 'Merica
Agreed! I stumbled unto this channel yesterday and thought Coch ran it.
I carried an M-14 in Iraq. With M-118 ammo accuracy is pretty insane. The bullet just goes where you want it too out to 500meters.
What stopping power does it have, how many human bodies does the bullet go through? Asking for a friend
@@Hordalending how many bodies does it go through? Whichever one you're aiming at.
🤔🤔 in the words of TopGun……bullshit 🤧.
@@tee1up785 I'm confused do you feel an M14 won't reach out to 500 meters or that a 7.62 bullet isn't going to kill someone.....
@@robbybee70 its almost like he was responding to another comment, or is twelve.
I like that you didn't spend 30 minutes trash talking the M14, everyone I know that has one loves them
Love these videos. It's like being in school. Big respect for you and all of the veteran commenters below. I got out of the Army in '79 and saw no battles but my brother served for 20 years and was all over the place and my son served with the 10th mountain division in Afghanistan. God Bless America.
This channel reminds me of school too. My teachers were also always drunk.
I carried an M14 when I was in Vietnam 67 / 68. I was attached to Hqbn 3rd Marine Spec unit 2. I Corp. The only prob I had with it , toooo long. An it had a. Straight wood stock. I don't recall when the E 2 stock was avertible, but that was a big improvement. A few years after I was a civilian again, I bought an M 1A an found an E2 stock. And swore to myself I wood keep that weapon until I died. Well got hard up for money an ya know what happen then. I had 24 long guns an about the same handguns. No longer. Got a divorce and weapons divorced me. Well at. Least I can say I had em. SEMPER FI
P.S. I also had an FN FAL, which I loved, that was one accurate rifle. I could hit schit like you wouldn't believe. Yeah it's gone too excuse me while I cry in my beer. Why couldn't I sell the wife and kept the guns?
an inspiration you are sir
The rock sopmod is gold hopefully someone makes clones some day
G3 served my dear country of Portugal as main rifle for 69 years, it was used in the jungles of Africa during the colonial War that lasted 13 years, it might not be the best but it's for sure reliable and effective
I agree completely with your list, except one omission. I have a couple of the rifles on your list, including the SCAR 17. Fantastic gun. Only drawback is it is slightly heavy.weight. The Patriot Ordnance Factory Rogue, with the 9 position Dictator adjustable gas block is my favorite This .308 weighs 5.9lbs naked. Equipped with a Vortex 3x18 scope, a SureFire light, a sling and 25 round Lancer mag, it feels like a very light AR-15. It is very reliable, suppressed or unsupressed, and, is 1-2 MOA accurate, which is fine for a tactical rifle. The SCAR 17 was developed about 15 years before the Rogue, and was state of the art in 2004. Now thePOF is a new generation of Battle Rifles.
I would recommend picking one up and see how it feels at your LGS, but it will cost you a couple of grand if you do, as you will not want to leave the store without one.
If you cannot see yourself using a Battle Rifle for CQB, or while walking, it is less of a value. But for the price, it really has no competitor. The closest would probably be the Ruger SFAR. I like Ruger firearms and have one of their pistols,but the SFAR I looked at seemed cheaply made and the parts seemed cheap as well, to me.
All the rifles on your list are classics, and will get the job done. But the lightweight, relatively cheap, and light recoiling POF Rogue is number one on MY list.
I gotta admit I like the AR platform. Have them in 6 different calibers.
That said, you're choices are rock solid
I own more uppers than lowers.
I just interchange with what I'm shooting that day. The ammo choices are nuts.
@@imadequate3376 I have more lowers than uppers hehe
I now see why mass shooters love this platform.
Battle rifles were the thing we needed in Afghanistan. I carried a pimped out G3 on my last Bundeswehr tour in Afghanistan . 1-4 Short dot and a stock that was cut for body armor. My G36 stayed in camp 95% of the time . In an urban centric aoo like Ukraine I would only pick a 7.62 ( G3 or SCAR 17) as a DMR .
Interesant Marcus, danke.
I would agree with you on x51 for a DMR, the M110 would be my pick for no.1 spot. It's not a battle rifle, but then again most battle rifles do not work well for a DMR capability, without some after-market work on them. The SCAR-17 makes a lot of sense for a modern battle rifle and that would be my pick.
Danke für Ihren Dienst dort in Afghanistan!!! Es schmerzt mich immer wieder wofür Ihr eigentlich da ward.....und in Berlin stehen Sie immer noch nicht zu euch Veteranen!!!! Zum Kotzen...
The HK G3 and FN SCAR-H (MK 17) are battle rifles, not designated marksman rifles. If you're looking for DMR versions of those rifles, I recommend you go for the HK MSG90A2 or the FN SCAR TPR (MK 20 SSR), respectively.
Since you served in the Bundeswehr, I'm surprised you wouldn't go for an HK 417A2 battle rifle or an HK G28 designated marksman rifle if you were operating in a Ukrainian urban center. If you ask me, the HK G3, like the FN FAL and the M14, is a bit outdated.
@@Wuestenkarsten
How does Berlin not stand by their military veterans? I'm curious; I'm American, so I don't know.
@@Trenex1000 I am not Marcus but I am so cheeky to answer for him:
HK 417A2 battle rifle is not used by the BW. HK G28 designated marksman rifle was introduced around 2012 as a replacement for the G3 DMR. There are not many around.
So the answer of Marcus is most likely: because I don't know these guns. The G3 and the G36 are the standart issue guns in service in all branches.
"If you ask me, the HK G3, like the FN FAL and the M14, is a bit outdated."
What makes them outdated? They are reliable, accurate and use a full power cartidge. They do everything a rifle is supposed to do.
The G3 is conciderable lighter than the G28. Even if equiped as DMR. It also has a full auto setting which the G28 doesn't. The G28 is only really superiour in a rather sniper like DMR role. At long ranges and static. The G3 is lighter and easier to wield. Its better at closer ranges and if you need to be mobile. Which for me would make it the more sensible pick for MOUT IMHO.
I have a m14 scout model, that thing is heavy but man it is accurate and shoots lights out, one of the greatest rifles I own! I luv that rifle! Thanks for your service you deserve an adult drink!
From 12 to 18 yrs old I shot the FNFAL in the New Zealand cadet forces. Earning my Marksman’s rating with them. They were made under licence in Australia, and we simply called them the SLR (Self loading rifle) after they replace the SMLE Lee Enfield used up to that time. We only got the SLR because our army was changing over the M16 and it’s variants.
Heavy rifle, but that helped its accuracy over longer ranges.
The M14 always gets me because people will talk trash about how "it's a terrible gun". They say the M1 Garand was a great gun, but somehow you take the Garand, chamber it in 7.62 Nato, shorten the receiver, put a box magazine on it, and redesign the gas system to be smaller, and save almost 1/2 of weight, and somehow it becomes the worst rifle ever. (Yes the full Auto was awful and unusable.) If the M14 had come out 10 years sooner, it would be a different story
Love my Galil Ace in 7.62x51. My G3 and StG58 are also excellent weapons. You can mitigate the G3 recoil by installing a heavy buffer instead of the stock one. I love the G3 platform, robust, reliable, and accurate. Magazines are cheap and readily available. The G3 is one of the few weapons that will eject spent brass even when the extractor is broken. This is due to the chamber flutes that allow the gases from the fired round to push the spent brass rearward, along with the bolt carrier and the ejector kicks the brass out the ejection port. The G3 is surprisingly controllable in full auto, something the M14 isn't. The only real drawback to the design is that it lacks a bolt hold open. But, if you train properly with it, it's not such a big deal.
The Scar is a nice rifle, but the price is a bit high. I know you have to weigh the value of your life to balance with what you need. I guess it's all in personal preference. I've always liked the 7.62x51 round. Maybe I'm just a dinosaur. Anyhow, thank you for the honesty and the video. Thank you for your service. God bless America.
I love that Coch just sits down with a bottle of whiskey and just talks to the audience like he’s sitting in a lounge somewhere talking to someone over drinks. It really engages the audience. Great list.
I love the damned bottle of whiskey!
From your first drink l knew you were the one to watch ..The way you present is down to earth .. l was thrilled till the end and couldn't wait to hit the subscribe and thumbs up button . You nail it on the evolution of weapons from this time . To get this all from a Navy SEAL is priceless
Good presentation and fun to watch. Still, I have to say I'm sticking with my .30-40 Krag because almost no one knows what it is. Plus the ammo is super light to carry because it's almost impossible to find anymore.
About 3 dollars a round if you can get it right?
😂...
Yes. When carrying no ammo, the ammo is weightless.
Bought a Springfield M1-A a few years ago in scout squad. I love it. Peace. (Through superior firepower).
I love hearing from real Seals. No lies or Hollywood fulff. Keep them coming!
I'm glad that you included the M1A, I'm from Canada and use it for everything from short & long range target practice with my daughter to hunting just about anything with the guy's. Hell, all the rifles you mentioned I'd be glad to own!!!
Not anymore you don't Turdo banned the M1A
They banned m14. Not m1
Is the recoil of the 7.62mmX51mm really that bad? I think people have grown so accustomed to the 5.56mm that anything else becomes oh so harsh, for lack of a better term.
It's when it's full auto is when it's gets out of hand. There's ways to tame it but it takes weight or annoying muzzle brakes
Well, it does make a a difference. It effects your accuracy no matter how small the difference is. 5.56 usually has more rounds in the mag as well.
It’s really not that bad. Especially if you have an effective muzzle device &/or buffer system, and some heft, it’s plenty serviceable. But of course you have people who complain that 7.62x39 is too harsh. If they think that’s harsh, they should try 10ga turkey loads or some .45-70!
In a semi-automatic package, it's manageable though generally even the best shooters will be able to easily put rounds on target with 5.56 or even 7.62x39 in a rapid string vs the majority of 7.62x51 rifles. 7.62x51 offers a lot of punch but there is stout recoil behind it, and if you're a shooter that prioritises getting as many rounds on target in a short amount of time (not accounting full-auto though see Ian from Forgotten Weapons try to tame a full-auto M14) though properly configured weapon systems can help mitigate this.
Still, there are other factors why someone would prefer using a smaller calibre rifle over full power 30 cal rounds, namely ammo capacity, reduced concussion, mitigate overpenetration...
There are 2 answers.
1) yes, many men are girly men and are scared of .308 recoil. The way I fixed my recoil issues is I bought and shot hundreds of rounds of 12ga buckshot. So "sensitivity" can be fixed.
2) he is not talking about "I'm scared of recoil." He is talking about follow-up shots and how much punch there is and the momentum of all that steel. So yes, that does make it harder to do a good hammer pair or quickly dump 5 rounds into a bad guy at CQB distance. Guys using 7.62x39 or 7.62x51 use all sorts of breaks/compensators and guys with 5.56 or 5.45 still beat them in the time and accuracy departments. So Coch is dead on.
I agree, the M14 was a great rifle but very long. I used one at Marine Barracks in our guard vehicles , civilian pick up trucks. Hard to move around with and we even broke windshields because the rifle had to be pulled up from the rifle mount to deploy.
They make as short as 16 inch barrel now. You should look into them again.
That’s freaking excellent! “Hey grab the…”glass breaks in background. 😂
The M14 socom with the short barrel is awesome! I have 3 and hunt deer and hogs with them. I wish I could have had this weapon in Iraq!
Hey Mr.Coch,
Thank you for your service. Love the videos. Carry on.
Always love to listen to Coch. Thanks for this entertaining video.
Thank you for giving the Scar H some love. It’s my battle rifle of choice as well. Great weapon system. Good video!
The good old G3. Had that for my conscription year in the Norwegian army and then for years in the Norwegian Home Guard. In Norway its called AG-3. Great rifle. We have now moved to the HK416.
Agree with your scar pick as number 1. I am also intrigued by the new spear and what that system will be capable of over the scar.
1:03 Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit them with it.
I bought a Tavor 7. Fully ambidextrous. I love it!
My Tavor 7 is the most amazing battle rifle I have ever used. Love it too.
As a Scar H owner.....THANK YOU for your input is those features! Love my scar and a lot of those features makes it so much nicer to use compared to my AR.
Glad you put the SCAR at the top and thank you for your input into the SCAR system! I love my SCAR 16S!
The SCAR is trash.
@@arighteousname5882 - Says somebody who probably has never shot one. What do you think is better?
M14 or hk 417
@@kylebeckman1398any AK or Zastava to be fair. There is a reason why they are the most sold rifles worldwide.
Gotta get Coch to ramble for longer then 6m
The rifle that's really got my attention is the POF Revolution DI. It's an AR10 in an AR15 size frame and weighs just under 7 pounds. I don't have one yet but that thing looks like a pretty sweet set-up.
I agree and I’ve been wanting one as well, but that light weight with a full 308 is going to be hefty in the recoil department. I think I’ll hunt for a 6.5 if I ever go for it.
Awsomeness! Light but packs the 308 ROOM TEMPERATURE Treatment.
NOW I gotta see what mags are used! Priority or others I might possess. Please have a Safe Memorial Day with friends and family brudder!
Pof is overpriced junk
Agreed. I think the DI on it is timed very well, and if it shoots anything like a SCAR the recoil is the same as a VZ58 lol
I do love the M14/M1A. Competed with the M14 for several years on my unit's rifle team back in the 90's. The AR platform, what can be said that already hasn't? It's a proven system. My newest one was purpose "built" for long range work. Has a 24" heavy barrel chambered in 6mm ARC. Almost the power of .308 w/out the recoil. You can definitely tell impacts on steel at 1k yds. The FAL, I had a imbel stg58. It was fun to shoot, recoil wasn't bad at all but it was very inaccurate. I don't know if that was common for the rifle or if it was just a manufacturer thing. Have never had the opportunity to fire a G3/91 nor the SCAR.
To be fair the HK G3 is a direct descendant from the spanish CETME B, developed in Spain by german engeneers after WW2! These rifles have their roots in WW2 German assault rifle Stg45, developed by Mauser. After WW2, some Mauser men moved to Spain and started to work for CETME, where they developed the Mod. B battle rifle, chambered for 7.62mm NATO cartridge
True, but the CETME isn't exactly a good rifle...
@Mark Cochiolo
Would be really interested. I had an HK 91 (Civvy version) and quite liked it.
@@Ahabite if you have an early rebuild made by the grinder monkeys at century arms you would be right, but the cetmes built by ptr for century are excelent rifles.
@Mark Cochiolo I don't think it would be boring at all. I think people would find it interesting how from a "how does it work" standpoint would be a cool video. After I r tired from the Army I became friends with a guy who owns a Sturmgewehr 44. When he first got it he had me come over and check it out. I asked him has he taken it apart yet? No was his answer. I look d it over for about a minute then field stripped it without ever having done it before. The M-249, 240B, CETME, FAL, M-16 series share so much with the Stg-44 I can't list them all. That Coch would make a great video. Like a Lineage themed video.
Gunners Mate here, we used the M-14 to shoot lines across during unreps and man was that rifle accurate!
For 18 mos in Vietnam I had an M-14. I liked it for many reasons, but the most important reason was that when you ran out of ammunition you could use it as a club. Or when you were facing a riotous mob you could butt stroke people. This was in Vietnam, the mob part. I guess alot of you have never run out of ammo in combat. But I did. Even without ammo I felt I was armed with the M-14.
I finally got a M14SA from LRB of Long Island: 18 inch barrel, welded gas selector, all forged steel parts, glass bedded composite stock...dead on accurate and reliable. Backing it up is my "demilled" original USMC M14 (welded selector notch) which I qualified for through the CMP 30+ years ago. Great weapons!
Love these videos Coch!!
I think you made some excellent picks! All of them are great rifles! I own a PTR91 which is basically an American made HK91/G3 and I love it. Sure it's a bit heavy at around 10 pounds but the weight actually helps a bit with the recoil and the Witt Machine SME 308 muzzle brake I have on it takes down a lot of recoil. I have a Magpul PRS 2 stock on it and all in all I love the rifle!
There's something to be said about the PTR91/G3/CETME whatever HK91 you own. My friend has one with a nice 4 power optic and it just goes where you put it at 300 yards
Same... I have a PTR as well... But I wouldn't say that it "kicks like a mule" by a longshot... Personally I think the recoil is less than my friend's M1A....
But like he said: It's his list. ;)
I love these picks. I stumbled on a G3 clone for $375, military supply shop run and got 6 mags and a sling for another $25 -30 bucks. Now I have a 400 m 'get the hell outta the neighborhood rifle'.
I own one also. Solid rifle. Not that much recoil
I highly recommend the Precision Armament Severe-Duty Brake. For those looking for maximum recoil reduction, anyway.
I bought an M1A socom 16 cqb about 2 years ago and love it. The SCAR heavy is definitely on my bucket list.
My mum trained on the FN-C1 when she was in the army reserves in Canada in the 70s and hated it. She is just over 5 feet tall and found the recoil to be extremely harsh and the overall weight made the rifle awkward for her to move. Had nothing but praise for the Sterling SMG though!
Man, this dude is Old School Frog-man unlike so many others writing books, movies and being Spot lights seals. True Quiet professional. Especially when he said that M14.
Solid list, Coch. My gunslinger days are behind me. No list, but some quick observations:
-M110 aside, the SR-25 is my preferred system. It does everything. Especially the ACC and CC models. It will adequately shoot M80 ball.
-The 417 is great if you can’t get a SCAR 20 or an SR-25. These rifles are really more Sniper/DMR rifles but still fully capable of taking down vics or installations.
-The SCAR, as mentioned, had fleas but I believed in it as the 21st Century FAL. It truly is the modern ‘Battle Rifle’. It’s light which is a plus and simple. People forget what ‘battle rifle’ truly implies. If I can’t teach an illiterate conscript to use it vs man machine nor beast; then it isn’t a battle rifle
-The M14 was more reliable for what it was than most realize. My experience in the 90s mirrors your own. Once they made shorter barrels, it found a niche. Still old news like the G3 and FAL(which I have no use for)
Coch seems like the kinda guy who is a blast to hang out with.
Had an HK-91 "G3" back in the 80's, my God, the trigger was like 12 lb pull! Horrible! AND HEAVY! VERY HEAVY! LOVE the M-14/M1A!
You did it again!!! FAL, always loved it, recoil never bothered me
277 Fury is a really exciting cartridge, it will be interesting to see if other firearm manufacturers will pick it up.
I mean if it gets adopted and the military sticks with it I'm sure tons of them will, just as a matter of keeping up. I'm excited too, but it means (in my opinion. I could be very wrong, and often am lol) that since rifles will have to be built really robustly to handle 50BMG+ levels of pressure, that I believe there will be fewer budget options than there are now with AR's. I'm pumped to see what gets done with it though, and I wonder if Textron- I believe it was them anyway- will continue developing that polymer-cased variant of the 6.8/.277
I think even if the XM5 doesn't stick around the XM250 probably will, and also the army is looking at 6.8x51 conversion kits for the M240, so I'd say the cartridge has a good chance of catching on. That absurdly high maximum operating pressure may be an issue with some designs, though.
It's a horrible idea that only plays into fools minds
@@bertblue9683 says a guy whos probably never shot it. I think its the right rifle and squad weapon. But wrong caliber for the rifle and perfect for the squad weapon. But then again, ive never shot it so i dont know for sure. I think the 6mm arc would have been a better choice.
If it is an improvement. Yes . Targets I engaged in Afghanistan were at an extended range! In hiding and optics were lacking! The 7.62 was effective but the .300 win or .416 Barret would have been a blessing in most cases. It is what it is. I do see it as a step in the right direction. As for all conflicts weapons needs very for the final applications! Bless all who have served 🙏 and never forget those we lost in battle!
I own, owned, or have used four of the top five picks. I have no experience with the SCAR, so I won't comment on it. My favorite on your list is the FAL. I love that rifle, but many hate it because they are heavy and often well worn. I built some shortened ones from kits and installed barrels I had cut down to 18" and 19", which I found were a lot handier. I trained on the M-14, but when it came to buying a M1a, I really wanted the 18" version, which was pricey. I settled on a BM-59 instead, mainly because of its more robust magazine. If I were going to war, I would have chosen the M1A Squad Scout instead. The AR10 is nice, bu I wish it were a bit lighter and smaller. I am curious to try one of the lightweight hybrid rifles that is built on a redesigned AR15 receiver. As for the G-3, I owned an HK91 back in the 1980s. It was a heavy beast with an equally heavy trigger pull and a long recoil impulse. The empty casings landed in the next county and were discolored with flutes, but still reloadable. I made the mistake of trading it for an original CZ75 that one of our NCOs had brought back from Lebanon. At the time it seemed like a good deal because the CZ was unobtanium and HKs were still being imported. Yeah, I'm still kicking myself over that decision.
Nice! As Marine 72-76`we qualify with the M-14 in boot camp but in ITS it was the M-16 then on, but as far as dinking! The 14 kickass on anything over 200 yards! You being a Seal you got to carry anything you wanted to hump! Dig the video! Sinn Fein Byrne
100 style points for the Mohawk. Keep the great work and rep your Heritage.
Glad to see two of my favorites on the list. The G3 and M14. I also owned a semi FAL at one time... But the trigger pull was horrendous... So I sold it.
Pew pew!
Great topic. Battle rifles are often skipped topics. Absolutely interesting.
200k lets go lads! ✊
I own 2 M1A’s . The scout squad and SOCOM 16. The SOCOM is my favorite gun, hands down. Love the 16” barrel length , love the power, recoil isn’t too bad, the iron sights are exceptional and it looks cool as hell. The world ends tomorrow, she’s the one I’m dancing with until death 💀
Edit : forgot to mention stripper clips. I run an aim point pro on the scout rail which looks kinda weird that far up the barrel but I do it so I can still use stripper clips which are awesome.
Is that a WWSD KE arms KP-15 in the background? What do you think of it? Terry.
Great video. I had an FN FAL back in the 1990's. It was long and heavy but it would digest anything. Burned through a case of Portuguese 7.62mm Nato surplus ammo with no malfunctions.
I own a SCAR17, and it's easily one of my favorite.
I appreciate your comments.
The #s 5, 4, & 3 I had experience with. Had
a G3 (select fire) assigned
to the unit. We put 5000
rounds thru same attempting to have a 👍😊🇺🇸malfunction. Never did
experience a malfunction.
The plate holding the roller bearings broke, but like a timex watch the rifle kept
functioning.
The BOPE in Brazil used the AR10A4 I think in 2014.
I should also add as a kid growing up in the 60,s and 70,s I also thought the M1A barrel was too long! Imagine my surprise when SA came out with the M1A Scout! I wish however they would CHROME LINE the barrels.
Completely agree on the AR10, up until the M5, was my favorite. When the chit hits the fan you don't notice recoil, and the terminal ballistics of the .308 far surpasses the 5.56. The 6.8mm looks even better.
Nice video! It's interesting to see the evolution of the technologies, certainly today we have improved everything but I wouldn't underestimate any opponent carrying one of these weapons.
Your list is perfect you can see why each rifles in its place but I still love M14
I was issued and trained with the M1 Garand. Later qualified with the M-14 before I got out. If I was a collector, I would be interested in the 1903 Springfield, M1 Garand, M1A full size, and the AR-15 (now banned in CT). I was at about the last period between the Korean War and the Vietnam War.
Only deployments were the Bay of Pigs Invasion and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Thanks Chief (don't know which rank).
Additional: in the 1960 period, we were issued all the 762 gear of WWII and Korea. I loved it because I watched all the WWII and Korean War movies as a young teenager and got to see all their gear, such as the M1 and the .45 Auto, which I later carried.
"Go make your own." Love it!
I neither agree or disagree, you were the one putting in the work and your team too. That said you have not only your experience but theirs to draw off of. SEALS put in more work than just about anybody in the field and your opinion is one of Decades of experience. I myself served in 3/75th in the nineties in the army for four years and I can firmly say what you say makes sense. Although most of those rifles are heavy by weight standards work horses, reliability is the primary issue, secondary to weight / ergonomics. Personally I would have leaned more on the AR-10 for a harder hitting weapon, I have never fired a SCAR so I cannot comment on this weapon although I have heard many great reviews, but until I try one, the reviews are about as good as a fart in the wind. I think that it is OUTSTANDING that we can hear and see what the procurement process through actually fielding and use to other variables such as comparisons to like weapons from a man who is as qualified as you are.
I carried the M14A1 with bipod, preferred it over the M16, never let me down.
I got a M1A with a national match barrel. I like the rifle because I can shoot a .308 Winchester or a 7.62x51mm NATO round.
M1A is accurate and on my list as well. Just a lot of rifle to hump. Glad I found your channel. U earned the sub. Looking forward to watching your stuff
Cool list! Some people don't like the SCAR but the one time I got to take one out I loved it.
I enjoyed your list and if you really want to fire Sig Sauer battle rifle, go to the Sig Sauer freedom days in NH in October, sign up is in June, saw it in action in phoenix in may during Sig Sauer freedom days and it’s beautiful!
M14, certainly worth an upvote
Hell yeah , M1A!!! All your choices are badass!!
Love the SCAR. Only .308 that even approaches an M-4 for quick follow-up shots.
FN SCAR n AR-10 is the best n most versatile battle rifle yet.
I am 100% certain that most 80s action movies are just snippets of Coch's life story
Coch, great video. But also, thank you for your part in the SCAR!
The M1A Scout 18 inch is so underrated. Its really the best battle rifle from that era pre-M lok. I chose the SIG 716I just because it had M 1A accuracy and modern ergonomics. I don't have the income to hang with the military today, MCX Spear and the real 277 fury 6.8X51 combat load.
Great video, keep’em coming!
i agree. direct impingement does work just fine.
No it doesn't and never has in either 10or 15
Dad carried an M14 and a FAL in Vietnam in 1971. He said the M16 was a cheap piece of crap. Also carried a Browning HP.
M1 A with folding stock is my favorite. I love the M2 carbines as well, with the paratrooper folding stocks.
From a straight shooting enjoyment aspect, which is personal, I like M14/M1A the most. Definitely not my first choice for “combat” but there is just something I like about them.
Likewise
Nothing but expertly informative! Beyond compelled to just subscribe. KUDOS, yeah. High bar, Brother.
I was in the German military. The G3s were awful compared to FN-FAL. The recoil and muzzle climb made for sub-optimal follow up shots. Then there was the safety issue you mentioned and the position of the magazine.
M14. I also grew up with this rifle. You can reach out a long way with it and touch anyone! The weight never bothered me.
kinda weird how he went best to worse but to each his own
The g3 is a beast !! I love it wish I could have a legit g3 but the ptr is still really nice
Great list. I agree with putting the SCAR 17 at number one and prefer the original with a recip charging handle.
SCAR is a great gun. My favorite, particularly the 16S. MK20 is a pretty badass tool too!
It feels like honor to hear a Seal talking about his Top 5 and to see a HK G3 in his list.
My good old and trusted service weapon. The G36 is not so bad as many think. But the G3 is a serious gamechanger in the right hands.
If i want to fight against a target 500m or 600m away, i just have to put the selector switch on single shot and pull the trigger few times.
With the G36, i have to walk 200m before i do the same...
When it comes to classic battle rifles Ar10 is first followed by G3, sig 510, fal and lastly m14. Now for modern battle rifles the only option is scar h, other similar offerings are still waiting for adoption or rather they are not combat proven or at least have to be procurement tested.
Wow I definitely agree !! Great review 👏on point thank you sir!!😉🇺🇸.
Outstanding! I have m1a standard with a little mod to it that I did myself. I don't care what some people say about it , it is a accurate rifle. I'm hiting a paper plate at 400 yards with it . The picture of you with the m14 I see it looks like you have a m1 grand rear sight with the lock bar.
It never ceases to amaze me how people will call us m1 owners liars over accuracy because they can't shoot. My m1a scout was the first real gun I'd ever shot. I grew up on old school pellet guns fyi. And I had way better grouping than my uncle who has every gun you could want and is notorious for having to have the best shit on everything. So he is very seasoned on guns and has every gun people would say I should have. To his credit he convinced me to buy it.
Nice looking folding tube stalk wooden 51 frame rifle.
110% awesome selections old school triggering
It's a simple misstake to make but the mg42 is not roller delayed, it is roller locked and recoil operated.
When I was in the Navy we still had M14s. Thats probably why I bought a socom 16.
Love my M 1 A , always goes boom . ! I live in Bear and wolf country so 10 rounds ready to go is nice . You made great choices . There's just not enough money !!