The version I heard of this story had Demeter making her bargain with Hades instead of Zeus. By this point, Persephone had been shown nothing but kindness from Hades and she had started to legitimately fall in love with him. But Hades realized that Demeter's refusal to continue all plant growth would endanger the existence of all the gods due to the lack of people to worship them, so he met with Demeter and arranged a compromise with her. Persephone would take a single bite of the pomegranate, and the number of seeds she got with that bite would be the number of months she would remain in the Underworld with her husband. Persephone agreed to the terms, took her bite, and got four seeds. So she would spend four months of the year in the Underworld, and the rest of the year she would spend with her mother.
Although the relationship began unconventionally, this was probably one of the healthiest marriages in Greek mythology. For one, Hades was completely faithful to Persephone and never took any lovers. And two, Hades respected her not only as his wife but as an equal co ruler of the Underworld. A role which Persephone eventually flourished in and found quite a purpose.
Its a symbolic of archetype Kore/Maiden (Persephone), young maiden that transform into Queen Woman as a Ruler Archetype after being merged with Archetype of Power Masculine or Patriachal Power…it also symbolizes young maiden married to older man, but equally symetrically important. It also represents symbol of princess sleeping beauty united with prince charming to be herself, releasing her feminine from her mother’s feminine to be herself
Hades did kidnap Persephone...but he did it out of love,not malice or lust. And eventually Persephone did return Hades' love. Not exactly a love story,but at least Hades didn't force himself on Persephone like his younger brothers would have.
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I think the essence of the story twisted through time and that it is lost to most people. It makes sense that Hades and Demeter had a daughter - Persephone. However, at the time, Hades refused to bring a child into the underworld, so he let his brother Zeus be her adoptive father. Once Persephone grew mature enough, Hades kidnapped her in order to show her that he made his kingdom ready for his heiress to rule one day. That is why she decided to stay there. The rest of the gods refused to tell her about her origin because they knew that she would leave them someday.
Interested perspective on the story. I’ve not heard of early references to this. Classical mythology, however, identifies Persephone as the daughter of Demeter and Zeus. As told in the Homeric Hymn to Demeter (7th or 6th century BCE), Persephone is abducted by Hades with Zeus's consent, because of his love for her and his desire to have her as his queen.
@@MystOfMythology It is true that that telling is most known, but it's been so long and many generations passed it orally until it was written, which is bound not to be 100% accurate. As for the queen, it is initially said ruler, which he then assumed would be the queen, but it doesn't necessary have to be so. Anyway, I respect that version, it's just not canon for me, and that is the beautiful part of mythology as one myth can work in so many different ways.
@@MilutinMujovicbro isn't ready for the Hades Nyx story if he can't handle that 😂 Not to mention hades other son who found persephone. .the sister he never knew he had 😢
He didn't trick her. She was given a choice to stay with hades or go back home. She choose to stay. Everyone needs love right. And love can warm the coldest hearts.❤
@@MystOfMythology now I don't think it was easy for her. I mean.. he's Hades. Can you imagine what he had to see and deal with? I would probably be pretty cold too others myself. Just needed someone to feel and see why he was the war he was. Persephone is a bad ma mah jamma.
@@MystOfMythology 🤣🤣 He's the only one that was loyal to his woman. So he definitely has that on them. What gets me is they could have any other womsn they wanted but wanted hades girl. That's just wrong.
I've read that Hades was struck by Cupid's arrows by order of Venus. He fell in love with Persephone and took her by force. Demeter condemned the Earth for doing nothing and winter came for the first time. Hades offered gifts to Persephone, but she was sad. Because there were no flowers in the Underworld. Eventually an agreement was made with the gods and Persephone was allowed to leave. But there was the pomegranate she ate. Number of bites meant number of months she had to stay in the Underworld each year. Still, when Persephone left, Hades pleaded that she remember him during her time away. She said she would. Thus, love between them really began.
Could be. The idea that Hades was hit by Cupid's arrow (Eros * cough *), and Hades pleading for Persephone to remember him is new to me, the rest of the points all match the versions I have read. But I will never say it's right or wrong - these were stories passed orally open to different versions in different regions in different times.
Oh wait there's one other thing that really bugs me about the adaptations - From what I can recall - and correct me if I am wrong - the original Greek myth was that when Demeter withdrew the rain, which created the blistering dry Greek summer. It was during the rainy winters that Persephone was returned to Demeter. Adaptations, being largely written by Northerners, do not include this. They reverse it - when Persephone is in the underworld, there's winter. When she is returned, there is summer.
Interesting you've said this because a source of mine did raise that this was a common debate when I was researching the topic. The scorching summer wasn't necessarily caused by Demeter withdrawing rain. It might be more accurate to say her sadness resulted in a lack of growth or a general "dying" of the land. But yes, in ancient (and modern) Greece, the summers can be harsher and dryer meaning less growth and life so it would make sense that Persephone would be returned during winter and spring when the climate was more conducive to life and growth. I think both agree that she was around during spring, but the original texts would likely refer to 'winter to spring' while more modern versions and northern interpretations would say it was 'spring to summer'. In both, she symbolises the cycle of the seasons and the rebirth of life.
One of the healthier relationships in Greek myth.
The version I heard of this story had Demeter making her bargain with Hades instead of Zeus. By this point, Persephone had been shown nothing but kindness from Hades and she had started to legitimately fall in love with him. But Hades realized that Demeter's refusal to continue all plant growth would endanger the existence of all the gods due to the lack of people to worship them, so he met with Demeter and arranged a compromise with her. Persephone would take a single bite of the pomegranate, and the number of seeds she got with that bite would be the number of months she would remain in the Underworld with her husband. Persephone agreed to the terms, took her bite, and got four seeds. So she would spend four months of the year in the Underworld, and the rest of the year she would spend with her mother.
Although the relationship began unconventionally, this was probably one of the healthiest marriages in Greek mythology. For one, Hades was completely faithful to Persephone and never took any lovers. And two, Hades respected her not only as his wife but as an equal co ruler of the Underworld. A role which Persephone eventually flourished in and found quite a purpose.
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Its a symbolic of archetype Kore/Maiden (Persephone), young maiden that transform into Queen Woman as a Ruler Archetype after being merged with Archetype of Power Masculine or Patriachal Power…it also symbolizes young maiden married to older man, but equally symetrically important. It also represents symbol of princess sleeping beauty united with prince charming to be herself, releasing her feminine from her mother’s feminine to be herself
I thought it was an excellent piece and beautifully presented and well researched. Many congratulations.
Thank you Evan!
Another entertaining and informative video @MystofMythology 👏
Thank you Erkut!
PersefO ne. Accent on the O.
Spring is my second favorite season. At least Persephone gets to come up for 3 months and we get beautiful flowers spring time
I’m curious what your first is? I must say, that depending on the country I’m in, spring is probably my favourite.
Hades did kidnap Persephone...but he did it out of love,not malice or lust. And eventually Persephone did return Hades' love. Not exactly a love story,but at least Hades didn't force himself on Persephone like his younger brothers would have.
I don’t think that would hold up in court 😅
I wish this voice was how my inner monologue sounded. A brilliant video once again helping everyone learn while also being soothed by the buttery smooth @MysteriesofMythology!
Mysteries of Buttery Smooth Mythology 🧈
I just wish my inner monologue would shut it tf up.
It really is mildly annoying how every adaptation of this story simplifies it into a "romance".
Agreed, it's a lot more than that.
@@MystOfMythologyMaybe a part 2 then? An extended cut?
@@THE-X-Force Yes, one day Hades deserves a directors cut.
Maybe she inspired him for reincarnation
I think the essence of the story twisted through time and that it is lost to most people.
It makes sense that Hades and Demeter had a daughter - Persephone. However, at the time, Hades refused to bring a child into the underworld, so he let his brother Zeus be her adoptive father.
Once Persephone grew mature enough, Hades kidnapped her in order to show her that he made his kingdom ready for his heiress to rule one day. That is why she decided to stay there. The rest of the gods refused to tell her about her origin because they knew that she would leave them someday.
Interested perspective on the story. I’ve not heard of early references to this. Classical mythology, however, identifies Persephone as the daughter of Demeter and Zeus. As told in the Homeric Hymn to Demeter (7th or 6th century BCE), Persephone is abducted by Hades with Zeus's consent, because of his love for her and his desire to have her as his queen.
@@MystOfMythology It is true that that telling is most known, but it's been so long and many generations passed it orally until it was written, which is bound not to be 100% accurate. As for the queen, it is initially said ruler, which he then assumed would be the queen, but it doesn't necessary have to be so.
Anyway, I respect that version, it's just not canon for me, and that is the beautiful part of mythology as one myth can work in so many different ways.
@@MilutinMujovicbro isn't ready for the Hades Nyx story if he can't handle that 😂
Not to mention hades other son who found persephone. .the sister he never knew he had 😢
He didn't trick her. She was given a choice to stay with hades or go back home. She choose to stay. Everyone needs love right. And love can warm the coldest hearts.❤
A beautiful way to put it.
@@MystOfMythology now I don't think it was easy for her. I mean.. he's Hades. Can you imagine what he had to see and deal with? I would probably be pretty cold too others myself. Just needed someone to feel and see why he was the war he was. Persephone is a bad ma mah jamma.
Comparatively. Hades probably had the most integrity of the brothers (not that it's a high bar).
@@MystOfMythology 🤣🤣 He's the only one that was loyal to his woman. So he definitely has that on them. What gets me is they could have any other womsn they wanted but wanted hades girl. That's just wrong.
That's not the was traditionally viewed as, she was practically gifted to Hades and age didn't know the pomegranate would make her stay.
I've read that Hades was struck by Cupid's arrows by order of Venus. He fell in love with Persephone and took her by force. Demeter condemned the Earth for doing nothing and winter came for the first time.
Hades offered gifts to Persephone, but she was sad. Because there were no flowers in the Underworld. Eventually an agreement was made with the gods and Persephone was allowed to leave. But there was the pomegranate she ate. Number of bites meant number of months she had to stay in the Underworld each year.
Still, when Persephone left, Hades pleaded that she remember him during her time away. She said she would. Thus, love between them really began.
Could be. The idea that Hades was hit by Cupid's arrow (Eros * cough *), and Hades pleading for Persephone to remember him is new to me, the rest of the points all match the versions I have read. But I will never say it's right or wrong - these were stories passed orally open to different versions in different regions in different times.
Oh wait there's one other thing that really bugs me about the adaptations -
From what I can recall - and correct me if I am wrong - the original Greek myth was that when Demeter withdrew the rain, which created the blistering dry Greek summer. It was during the rainy winters that Persephone was returned to Demeter.
Adaptations, being largely written by Northerners, do not include this. They reverse it - when Persephone is in the underworld, there's winter. When she is returned, there is summer.
Interesting you've said this because a source of mine did raise that this was a common debate when I was researching the topic.
The scorching summer wasn't necessarily caused by Demeter withdrawing rain. It might be more accurate to say her sadness resulted in a lack of growth or a general "dying" of the land.
But yes, in ancient (and modern) Greece, the summers can be harsher and dryer meaning less growth and life so it would make sense that Persephone would be returned during winter and spring when the climate was more conducive to life and growth.
I think both agree that she was around during spring, but the original texts would likely refer to 'winter to spring' while more modern versions and northern interpretations would say it was 'spring to summer'.
In both, she symbolises the cycle of the seasons and the rebirth of life.
Hades is a villain. Poor Persephone, trying to be happy is hell. Thank you!!