The Ford Mustang GTD will Beat the Porsche GT2 RS and GT3 RS Around the Nurburgring
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And this wouldn't be the first time a Mustang beat a track focused Porsche around a race track. In Fact there's a mass produced ford mustang that smashed numerous lap times of one of Porsche's most popular track cars, and I'm talking about the 2016 Mustang Shelby GT350, and the 2016 Cayman GT4.On the 8 tracks shown here, the Mustang beat the GT4 on 5 of them.
And what about the nurburgring you ask. The 2016 Cayman GT4 had a fastest lap of 7 minutes and 40 seconds. The Mustang GT350R did it in 7 minutes and 32 seconds, it wasn't even close. But for some reason, this never became major automotive news.
Now when you hear the word motorsport, Ford is typically not the first company that comes to mind, but when Ford sets it's sights on victory, it sometimes wins, I don't need to remind you of all the times that Ford beat Ferrari at Le Mans, but you may have forgotten that Ford brought the GT back to le mans in 2016 and won the LM GTE Pro class, and beat numerous porsches and ferraris in the process.
So here's how the Mustang GTD and GT2 RS stack up against each other on paper.
So the GTDs got the GT2 beat in horsepower and suspension, and surprisingly, the GTD only weighs 27 pounds more than the GT2
When competing on a track like the nurburgring, that's got a lot of tight turns and elevation changes, suspension becomes even more important, and the GTD has cutting edge suspension that utilizes Multimatic’s DSSV motorized spool valve dampers, competition coilover springs, and a pushrod-actuated rear end that's part of the tubular subframe chassis.
The GTD also has a much more advanced aerodynamics package, featuring hydraulically controlled front flaps, a carbon fibre underbody and an active rear wing.
But another area that the GTD has a huge advantage over the GT2 is the chassis. Because the GT2 is a roadcar that has been modified for the track, but the GTD is a racecar that's been modified to be street legal
In order to beat the GT2 RS around the nurburgring, Ford has to beat 6 minutes and 47.3 seconds, but Ford doesn't just want to beat the GT2 RS around the nurburgring, it also wants to beat the Mercedes AMG GT Black Series, which has a lap time of 6 minutes and 43.6 seconds, over 3 seconds faster than the GT2 RS. And just for measure, the 992 GT3 RS lapped the nurburgring in 6 minutes and 49.3 seconds, exactly 2 seconds slower than the GT2 RS, and the current Nurburgring champion is the Mercedes AMG 1, at 6 minutes and 30 seconds.
But the main reason that the GTD will beat the GT2 around the nurburgring, is that time marches on and supercar technology advances very quickly, and while we all know and love the GT2 RS for the track beast that it is, that car is now 7 years old, and there have been significant advances in suspension and aerodynamics since then, and the Mustang GTD is a brand new car that features state of the art suspension and aerodynamics, and it just has way too many advantages over the older GT2 RS.
Ford started testing the GTD at the Nurburgring about two weeks ago, and so far they haven't been pushing the car to it's limits, which tells us they're still getting it dialed in. We can expect a couple more weeks of testing, and then Ford will make the official laptime announcement time at their leisure, manufactures often let this announcement drag on so the hype can build, but hopefully Ford will let us know sooner than later. 
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GTD has a lot going for it. Pretty advanced engine, loads of torque through the midrange, 50 50 weight distribution, lightweight, wide track, wide sticky rubber and the fastest stopping road car to date.
Of course, you are right, one must never underestimate the competition, but this new Ford hasn’t yet been opposed to the forthcoming 992.2 GT3 RS and GT2 RS. So, no conclusions till then, please 😎
FORDS public mission statement about the GTD was "that their goal was to beat both the AMG GT Black Series and the 911 GT3 RS around that track."
Which says low 6:40s 💪
First On Race Day.. when they set a goal to beat a specific manufacturer… they do it every single time..
LOL no they don't. They do it sometimes, and so do other brands. I'm sure they wanted to beat the Manthey Porsche at Lemans this year, but they didn't. Whomever is on top today, somebody else will be on top tomorrow. When you're the winner, you become the target of everybody else until you're no longer the winner. That's just how it works.
@@xtnuser5338
Mercedes has the Ring record.
Porsche just has the fanboys so
Ford used the name for marketing.
The GTDs are already sold out lol
@@WindyCity1992 Yeah that's all correct. But what point are you making?
@@WindyCity1992FYI Mercedes got bumped a couple weeks ago
@@HaHaThatIsFunnyby who ?
Where is your source stating the GTD is 3200lbs? That’s absolutely insane considering the GT500 was a tad over 4000lbs. Wow
Yeah GTD will be around 3600lbs at best and im being generous.
It’s a race car built by multimatic it’s not a production line mustang at all. It’s a carbon fiber street legal race car. If they get that car to 3200 lbs with 850 hp it will beat the GT2 RS.
@@hpkntnwthat’s a BIG “if”
The gtd won’t be anywhere near 3200lbs 😂😂😂 it’s going to be close to 4000 lol it is rumored to have closer to 900hp though. I did submitte an application though 🤞
That’s what I’m thinking too…
I'm guessing that the driver is very important part of getting the best Nurburgring times. I wonder who Ford will choose to drive for the record?
It is my understanding it is Dirk Muller
@@RonnieLeeDuck I wonder how he prepares before he goes to Nurburgring?
lol...a GT350 R beat the GT4??? The GT4 is a baby Porsche, whereas the GT350 R was the apex Mustang track car. I grew up with Fords and Mustangs and have owned some of the most sought after V8 Mustangs going back to the 60's and culminating with my 2000 Mustang Cobra R model but moved on to the 911 (turbos) and then to my current 2018 GT2 RS (with MR mods). The GTD is phenomenal and I tip my hat to Ford for spending the money to go there, but get back to me when it beats the current prod lap record holder at most American tracks, the 2018 GT2 RS, along with its Nürburgring time of 6:43.
Cool asf my man 😎
Calm down bud, it’s a Ford. Isn’t exactly the pinnacle of Motorsport. The fact a Mustang even did that is a miracle in itself
The GT2RS never held more than
4 track records. The ACR held
16 total , SCCA and Guiness
Certified. GT2RS isnt what u think
Also the 2020 GT500 is the
Top track mustang. It ran a
1:33 at Laguna Seca while
Matching the 991.1 GT3RS
At chuckwalla Raceway
gt350 is cranked out big steel midsize car. gt4 is cranked out small mid-engine coupe with pdk and 2x the price of base model.
i didn't know. it's really a win win as the more manufacturers there are in racing the better it is for us as fans, regardless of who you cheer for
Great show and very informative I love that Mustang fantastic look thank you very much for a wonderful video THANK YOU from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺
Thanks for the revue. The Mustang GTD is a Technological Masterpiece & will go down in history as the Bad Ass of all Mustangs. I am so Stoked to have my application in for the car . Fingers crossed !
Isn’t Porsche literally testing a new 911 rn
You would think the front-engined cars would struggle more. But mid-mounted front engined ones are competitive with suspension and aero mods. Witness the AMG GT3, and now the Multimatic Ford Mustang GT3 in the fold. The V8's put out lots of power, even with BOP enforced. When Porsche releases their new hybrid GT2RS, and perhaps EVO updates the GT3R, they will be back in hunt at the ring. Hard to overcome the HP advantage in current flat six configurations; keeping in mind how well Manthey and AO are doing this season in spite of power disadvantage.
Mid engine cars are superior race cars, period.
@@sillynut2958 They put the trans in the middle.
@@sillynut2958 That's ridiculous. Plenty of race wins over decades that refute that theory.
Power-to-Weight > Engine Configuration
@@sillynut2958 Sure, 30 years ago. Technology has advanced enough to make the improvement of a mid engine layout more preference over objective advantage.
I think GTD's secret weapon is 325mm of front tyre width !!
Yes and no. There's setup considerations associated with it. More grip under braking, more grip cornering, etc... now the suspension has to be dialed so the car doesn't squat too much under braking but this now affects cornering. Not that Multimatic and Ford won't dial in but I don't think a lot of people just think section width equals speed. A Radical SR 10 runs 200s up front for example.
Where did you get the Mustang GTD weight figure from?
Just did some digging, the number isn’t for the GTD, it’s the GT3 race cars weight.
I was wondering the same thing. There's an interview here on YT with one of the engineers. They said the car weighs about as much as a gt500 at the time, and they were trying to drop another 160lb by production.
carbon edition
It's a full carbon fiber body, isn't it?
@@BrandonAnderson-jv4wiyou forgot interior, passenger seat , airbags and other crap needed to be road legal . Cool story 😂
Damn that Mustang sounds awesome! If nothing else it wins the best exhaust note competition!
the sound alone is worth 325k. that back though cosmetically needs help, exhaust looks like it was yanked off your mom’s 2007 SUV.
Imagine the aero and tires loads on the GTD. I'm hoping the suspension pieces were designed with plenty of strength.
Mustang getting it done Ford power forever baby the best never rest they just keep getting better
The CEO of Ford is a Bronze Race Driver and races in GT4,,Mustang Darkhorse Challenge and other series.. when he can That says it all,,
They built this car to take on a 6 year old Porsche. One word says it all. SAD.
@@carlospacheco8640 The GT 2 has not changed/innovated in 6 year has it.. we both know the answer.The reference car is the road version Manthey GT2 spec even more power than the GT3
You sound desperate
💯 the proper comparison would be the 992.2 GT2 RS club sport that should be coming out in two years or less against the GTD Mustang. Both purpose built cars. 🍎➡️🍏
There is a BIG difference between a GT-2RS and a Cayman GT-4 RS
And a BIG difference between a Shelby GT350 and a Mustang GTD.
and what is that difference? i honestly don't know
A 2020 GT500 on cup2s ran identical
Times to a 991.2 GT3RS with
Randy Pobst driving.
Wasn't even a GT4 RS. Normal old GT4 with 385 or 420 hp, depending on model year.
@@BastianKHThe GT4 RS is like 5 years newer than the GT350 R lol. In that time they completely shit on even their own GT4.
Sounds big and heavy, not sure it would measure up to 992 GT3 RS with full MR touch. Will be interesting to see what it can put down.
surprised they produced the GTD so light and that front suspension by Multimatic isn't a joke. And neither is the cantelever rear suspension.
That is a huge feat of accomplishment considering an older gt2rs is near perfect even by today's standards. Other than maybe updating the interior or the lights, what else is really needed?
Ford said they're aiming for the GT3 RS Nurb lap record, not the GT2.
ye
They also said the amg black series which is just about as fast as the gt2rs mr
agree, it is the 992 GT3RS, not the GT2RS they are targetting
Yep because a 500 vs 800+ hp comparison makes sense lol.
@Kyle-ts5th in this context, it certainly does.
What are your thoughts on the new porshe gt2 RS against the ford
With the right driver it should be faster if they tune it correctly for the ring.
looking and watching isnt a recorded time
The Ford GTD is a beast and a great looking car! Thanks!
Ford will probably use the Mustang GTD Carbon edition
3RS MAYBE. New 992 2RS? No way in (GREEN) HELL!
I seriously doubt it will be that light. Ford hasn't released weight numbers and that 3268 number just so happens to match exactly with The Drive's article on the same topic talking about the weight of the GT3 RS, which is surprising considering the GT2 RS is a forced induction car yet weighs 27 lbs less than the GT3 RS. They already said the GTD would be close in weight to the GT500 which makes sense because they share a chassis and there's going to need to be a lot of cooling components for the GTD like the GT500.
Are you talking about the last GT2RS or the upcoming GT2RS? Even so, if it is the last GT2RS I doubt the GTD would be faster than the Manthey GTR2RS.
Would like to see that gtd make multiple laps around the ring like the gt2rs could but no so confident it could.
Plus, this is clip bait and you all fell for it……again! 😅
Nope, it will not !!!!!
I have a gt3rs 992,gt2rs 991and a mustang gtd on order...i will let u know once the mustang arrives n time trial it on the nurburgring
Aight bet
Where is the video of the gt350r doing a 7:32 on the Ring? It doesn't exist cause it didn't happen. Ever other company has video except ford.
Full-blown race Mustang against a stock 7 year old GT2 RS? The Mustang might muster. Apples to oranges. New vs old. Annoying click bait.
also the mustang and gt2 rs are both street legal
@@kashmir883 Mustang chasing a 7 year old car being the point here...
yanki disgrace themselves
@@elliotcosmas Where is the Camaro, oh it's trying to come back to life after being killed for the third time. US should send Ukraine the tank called the Dodge Challenger.
@@elliotcosmas
...and? What exactly is the point of calling the 991.2 GT2 RS a "7 year old car" besides trying to downplay its capabilities in a comparison? If your goal is to attempt to make the possible result of the GTD beating the lap time of a GT2 RS seem less impressive, then I think you're going to fail spectacularly. The GT2 RS is still one of the fastest road-legal cars to have lapped the Nürburgring, so even suggesting that the GTD beating its lap time isn't impressive is a silly thing to say. Who gives a crap if the car they're benchmarking is seven years old? It makes no difference to me because the GT2 RS is an incredibly fast car and will be difficult to beat.
Time for a new acr-x
Will laferrari successor and p1 successor launch this year
Certainly not…
Gt350 fastest time around the ring is actually 7:14
The Shelby GT350 is one of my favorite cars of all time made by Ford. There's a few, I have always been a Porsche Fan too but I'm not rich so the Idea of spending House Money on a car is something I can't afford to do... But I am a huge fan of the 911's over the years.. When I was a kid out of all my match box cars the porsche was always my fav.. But now I am older and in the real world so I went with a 2017 Manual Mustang GT Performance Pack and I love it.. The Coyote variants are simple nasty motor's all of them, from Gen 1's, to Boss, to Gen 2's 3's and the GT350 Voodoo and GT500 Predator they are all bad ass motors'.. I went with the Gen 2 because I found one with 8,909 miles on it and I knew I would never find another with miles that low on it ever again!! I just bought my 2017 9 months ago and it's been great.. It's not a crowd killer like people say.. IDK if that just the auto's that crash into crowds or not, But all I know is my car handles great and the fact that it is a manual gives me even more control over the car. So yeah so far so good... But honestly I would never spend that much money on a Mustang GTD.. I am sure it's going to be a Bad ass car but save your money and just get the new Shelby. They are coming in automatic and in manuals this time and there's not going to be any displacement differences on the new shelby's either.. They are going to be Gen 4 Coyote's with Gen 6 Whipples on them making well over 800 HP.. They are saying that the new 2025 Shelby's will have a solid 800 to the wheel's, But if you are really smart you can just Order a 24 Base Model 10 speed and get a Whipple installed on it from Ford for an extra 10K...
What about 918 successor
Porsche Mission X… it will be electric, Porsche wants it to be the fastest road legal car to ever lap the Nordschleife ! But won’t be out before the end of the decade… the 992 GT2 RS will be here way before that time
About time German cars are overdue for competition . Now that American cars are giving them a run for their money like the new c8 and this new Gen mustang we can actually compare. Before they were in a league of their own faster than sports cars but slower than hyper cars . As Porsche fan ,The 911 needs a complete rework there I said it start weeping .
What is the source of the GTD weight of 3268lbs? Dry or wet???
probably the carbon edition
That’s still porky for a race car 😖
@@frederickcook87 Porsche must be a swine then
@@chabweezy9905please stop… Porsche road going cars with every creature comfort weight less than anything ford puts out
@@frederickcook87
The Ford GT is 3100 ibs.
And the GTD has race car
Tech with a full interior.
Porsche track cars do not
I'd take the GTD over the GT2 RS for its uniqueness and its value in the future. It should appreciate similarly to the Ford GT.
Wow. Look how angry all the Porsche boys are.
I don't have a horse in this race, but that was a very well done video.
The biggest problem with the GTD is Ford stock of regular GT interior into a $325,000 car . I'm not sure how well that's gonna go over.
And don't worry Porsche guys I'm sure the 2025 GT two RS will probably beat the GTD
Actually it's gonna make the GTD look like a regular mustang remember porsche live,breed and sleep nurburgring ring 911'S
SUPER VIDEO TO LEARN TOO:))
Ok, that's not of a fair fight, the Ford has 825hp & the Porsche has 691hp, that's 134 more hp.
Let's add the fact that this is a street version of the GT3 race car. The GT2RS is not the street version of a GT3 race car.
Out of all the American Car Companies Ford has the best engineers for sure.. But I do have to admit Ford has a way of cheaping out on important things though too so always do your homework before buying any car no matter who it's made by.. But if I had to grade the different companies I would say Ford has A list, GM has B list engineers and Dodge has D list engineers for sure.. Yeah that Hemi is pretty nice but it's old as hell and Dodge has a way of throwing Displacement at everything to make power.. It's always been amazing to me what Ford has been able to do with that little 302 and the 289 before that. Just amazing..
i’m so sick of the ever repeating advertising
nice prints but maybe get some other sponsors to cycle between them?
WOWWW MUSTANG
Interesting video!!! I am a Porsche fan. Have owned many Porsches, along with Corvettes & Mustangs. Ordered a Dark Horse 🐎 back on 6 April 2023, (15 months ago). The Dark Horse has out-performed Porsches, Corvettes and the GT-350 on some road courses, but not the GT-350R. Technology is definitely improving the American made cars. Will not be surprised to see the MUSTANG GTD beat the GT2. However Ford interior quality will not match Porsche nor Mercedes Benz!!! Ford is just too cheap.
It was exciting to see the Mustang GT3 take 3rd & 4th in its class two weeks ago at LeMans‼️👍👊💪🐎🇺🇸
I would have to classify myself as a GM guy and a ZL1-1LE owner. Major kudos to Ford for basically taking the fight to Porsche. I've been on track with plenty of GT3 and GT3 RS cars and there is a clear distinction between your typical car, and basically a Porsche Race Car with headlights in the GT2/GT3. The Mustang GTD is an Apples to Apples comparison with the GT3 and GT3 RS..... maybe even the GT2 RS. Unfortunately, you have to spend ungodly amounts of money to get to this level of performance, and we're basically talking hypercar levels of performance. As impressive as these sub 7 minute runs are, I'm even more impressed with attainable cars, like the M4 CSL, and Camaro ZL1-1LE nipping on the heels of sub 7 minutes, all while hovering around $80-$120k. Dare I'd say, install Pirelli, Hankook, or Michelin Racing slicks on the M4 CSL and ZL1-1LE and you'd have your sub 7 minute lap times for a fraction of the cost. But I digress. America's problem has always been weight. We were never going to beat Porsche on the Nurburgring with 3,800-4,200lb cars. While the Corvettes have been traditionally lightweight relative to the Muscle Cars, they always lacked the necessary aero to lap quickly at the ring. Case in point, we see how fast the C7 ZR1 was with just a basic aero kit on a supercharged Corvette. Virtually every other Vette is Tail-Happy and is a handful to drive. Including the new C8. Fast HPDE guys in Corvettes install MASSIVE Wings to get them to hook. Aero is King! Ford has definitely produced a monster with the GTD. But honestly, it didn't need to cost so much. All we ever needed was a stripped down car with some lighter body panels and exotic alloys, mated to a solid aero package.
If you watch some of the videos on my channel, you see slow E46 M3s running faster than pretty much anything out there because they are lightweight and have massive aero upgrades. Downforce = Fast. All of this rant is just to say that Ford has gotten away from a-FORD-able performance. They are now charging a premium for anything fast coming from their lineup. I'm optimistic they'll hit their performance target at the Nurburgring. The letdown is that it will be unobtainable performance for enthusiasts, including those who bleed Ford blood. Forget the price. The whole limited production, and you have to have owned XYZ model to even qualify to get one just misses the mark in my humble opinion. Any Joe Schmo with $200k can get a GT3 now, and on that front, Porsche is still the winner.
Nurburgring times are not
Sanctioned. Also R Compound
Tires make a huge difference .
Wich is why GT2RS only set
4 track records vs ACRs 16 total
Also you arent getting a GT3
For 200k. Wich is slower on
Track than a 3600 ib C8 Z06
@@WindyCity1992 that's true. I was mainly pointing out that sub 7 minute laps are attainable for a lot less money.
@@WindyCity1992 GT3 prices are coming down. 991.2 are around $130k+ 992 are about $190k+ 992 GT3RS are more costly. The C8 Z06s are definitely faster than your base GT3, but the jury is out on the RS. Most of it honestly depends on the track layout as well. On tracks where the C8 Z06 can't stretch its legs, the GT3s might actually be faster. ...and GM has yet to test the C8 Z06 at the Ring for an official time. Personally, I don't think it's a sub 7 minute car. I think it'd be in the ball park with the McLaren 720s and 600LT. I've been on track with some quick C8 Z06 and they are a handful to drive on the limit, like most mid and rear engine cars. Front end feel is vague, and snap oversteer is next to impossible to save. Nevertheless, this GTD Mustang is looking planted on the limit, and is probably a very forgiving platform. I think they're going to shock everyone with the news.
@@Turbo329 gt3 992 is 250k+ used. new c8 z06 is 130k.
both mclarens you mentioned would lap sub7 easily on a non-magazine attempt.
a lot of hurt feelings here
Please stop kidding yourselves, it ain't going to happen, nice little pipedream though
991.2? Ford is late from the party.
2:40 speaking the Truth. So get ready Porsche that GT2,3,4 about to get 👋 🍑
You don’t have a chance in hell 😂 keep dreaming.
992.2 GT2 RS is coming down the pipeline…
Imagine ford just now picking opponents from almost a decade ago 😂
Ahh, the Jake Paul strat
Arc Driver needs to be taken off your follow list! It’s clip bait and only trying to get you to buy their merch!! Hate that!
I'll believe it once it happens
The difference is the Porsche can do it everyday.
So does the Mustang GTD, its engine is far more durable for everyday use.
@@Jimmyxsx Every Mustang I have seen on the ring leaves overheating with no brakes. How do you know the engine is better? Because Ford said so?
@@rustygolfer3475 that predator 5.2L V8 has been pushed to the limit in the drag racing world. 1500RWHP without internal modifications, the porsche will spit the rods out at that power level😂
@@rustygolfer3475coyotes touch 3000+ hp...wheres porsche in that regard😂😂😂😂😂
@@reyfuentes4572 They don't need to it's not a drag car. Are you arguing Ford has better engineers than Porsche? Because that's stupid.
ford needs to prove it in actuality
🏁 🏁 🏁 🏁 🏁 🏁 *JUST THE SOUND OF THIS BEAST* 🏁 🏁 🏁 🏁 🏁 🏁
The gt350 has 150hp more than the 2016 gt4 yet on most tracks barely put in better times, then the 2020 gt4 obliterated the gt350 on every track with 110hp less. Thats why it wasnt news, because its not impressive when a sports car with 530hp can barely win against a 380hp sportscar but gets destroyed by the same car with 414hp.
GT350 $60k
Porsche GT4 $160k lol
Now ford really opened up their wallet with the gtd and put the best of the best to work on it.
You mention an extra 110hp but not the price and 700 pounds extra weight.
No Porsche/BMW/Mercedes/Audi owner gives a rats ass about cheap looking Rustang. There’s a reason millions of people pay quite a bit more money for the aforementioned cars.
@@petrolo72 pretty hilarious that you said that considering how many Porsche owners and car enthusiast's who own all those cars talk about how much they love the GT350R and/or GT500 and even own one themselves.
@@Jimmyxsxwow never heard of anyone getting a 350 for 60 but I'll take your word for it. In that case MSRP was $62k for the GT and $85k for the gt4 back in 2016.
Porsche Master Race finds this video amusing
Porsche is just sitting in the corner waiting to release a gt2 or gt3 rs that will beat that Mustang if it should. Seems you guys don't know what you are up against....smh
Clearly this is just clickbait and a mustang fanboy
The new GTD can’t even beat the current GT3RS lol 😂 and the new GT3RS is about to come out soon
American muscle is the best
Keep dreaming.
You're out of your mind thinking that hunk of junk will beat the Porsche.
LOL! Porsche is about to become the hunk of junk when Ford gets done.
@@billymania11 lay off the meth Bubba J
@@trance9158 I don't debate kids. Sorry.
@@billymania11 well granddad hope to tell you I'm 57 yrs old . Pretty ironic coming from someone calling themselves Billy Boy.
The mustang will prob be faster depending on road and wind conditions. It has more power, same or better downforce, and wider front tires, mid engine and full carbon to make up for heavy bigger motor. The torque curve of the mustang will be better for corner exits prob. It would be surprising if the gtd does not do a faster lap with the right driver. Stop being a brand loyalist, competition is good for the buyer.
Upcoming GT3 RS MR seeing this:👀
How long has the Mustang been around … 60 years? What took Ford so long to get this serious? Good to see that they’re raising the bar to the Porsche level.
Porsches level is the nurburgring.
And they dont even hold the record.
Mercedes does.
First Shot: Outside of Karussell 😂
Second: doing Pace Car Speed😂
....impressive😂
Another track car, the Porsche 919 Evo has a Nürburgring lap time of 5 min 19.46 sec. This is the logical car the Mustang GTD should be compared to. However, Porsche is currently testing a replacement for the ageing GT2 RS, unlike the Mustang it is a road car.
Why in the hell would you compare a LMP1 Le Mans Prototype to a car based on the GTLM class? Do you even know anything about racing?
This will be no faster than a Frod Pinto around the track.
@@snozbaries7652 It isn't about racing it's about setting Nürburgring records. The GTLM class has been dropped in favour of GT3. The point is both have no future in FIA racing, so setting records is all it is about.
Good joke and stop the click bait.
The fact they havent posted any lap time speaks for itself.
The GTD hasn't made the official attempt just yet . Still dialing it in. It is a street car !
Bro ford isn't even considered as competition
So are you saying that engineering graduates in America are inferior to those in other countries? That's what it comes down to; that and the budget for the project.
@@mchristr yup, Germany dominates when it comes to engineering and technology
That's what Ferrari thought at one time too.
@@mchristr yes they are inferior to German engineers. Just look at the junk they create... Ford Chevy Tesla... Lame junk.
@@trance9158 UH, FORD EMPLOYES A LOT OF GERMAN ENGINEERS 😊
No surprise as Porsche held back the Cayman which has a true mid engine configuration which was the original design and most of their purpose built race cars are mid engine, even some that "look like' a 911. The 911 is an overpriced "poser" car that some just can't get past.
Porsche is an excellent engineering company and car maker. But the Mustang GTD is not fair to race against a legal GT3 car. It has at least 300 more horsepower and active aero that is not allowed on the GT3 cars.
The hell are you talking about, the new gt2 hasn't even come out yet, are you talking about beating the old one??
992.2 GT2RS with the e-turbo tech is going to make everyone else look silly.
in your dreams
The Ford will probably fail apart after one race
The engine in that mustang is far more durable than anything Porsche has ever made in their entire existence lol Race proven to up to 1500rwhp without any internal modifications.
@Jimmyxsx I haven't had good experiences with Ford but porsche always has my back
@@michaelsavo-mg2pc your back against the repair shop wall😂
@@michaelsavo-mg2pc your back against the repair shop wall😂
@Jimmyxsx hey Jimmy I apologize for hurting your mustang feelings I hope you are able to own one and enjoy the car maybe one day I will run into you with my porsche turbo s and blow the doors off the mustang if not it will be nice
Oh how the mighty has fallen , im gonna be flat out honestly the new gt2 rs will be a shade of lower being a god-fearing hyper car almost ...... and this mustang GTD will be a "supposedly super" car not to take away from it but ford doesn't have the track records to prove their claim.......maybe they should do an exhibition race against the new gt2 rs and the new Black series AMG GT Omega 1 , which supposedly one a very limited amount will be made
Did this guy just compare a 395 hp 2016 gt4 with a bull blown 750hp 350R? Not the point he was trying to make. The new GT4 did the ring in 7:08.
The GT350 is NA making 526HP and it is also 750 pounds heavier than the GT4. It also hasn’t been in production for several years. He’s comparing performance numbers from basically when both cars were new.
The GT350R debuted in 2016 and has 526hp, you're thinking of the GT500.
@@thelastscarecrow6701that's the point an old gt4 with 150hp less was barely beaten by a 530hp car and loses badly, not just by a bit but badly to an updated gt4 in 2020 while both cars are in production. Anyone who tracks a lot knows that the 350 can't turn for shit compared to a gt4 but just out muscles it in straights to gain time.
@@mattyp3119 horsepower isnt the only thing that matters dude, be more open minded and not so ignorant. the gt350 weighs 700+lbs more than the gt4 and costs about $100k less when both cars were new. these facts 100% factor out any "bUt It mAkEs 150 MoRe hOrSePoWeR" bullshit
The GT4 did 7:08 on Cup2Rs
Wich are race compound tires.
That car isnt getting close to
A 7:08 without them. Be real
Its not a Ford....Its a bespoke Multimatic race car.....like the Ford GT and Aston Martin Valkyrie
Ford is Over Compensating for the Pride Month Raptor for Last Year .. Mustang GTD Cost $325,000
I’m surprised its not in the ditches
old joke it was funny 15 years ago
@@cellularsouth85 no joke, still valid today
Still riding that GT40 bandwagon...how are they doing in IMSA competition this year...??....
The McLaren 600LT with a roof scope is technically superior and makes all 911 and Mustangs look like they were drawn up by an 8 year old. Porsche makes nice mass produced production cars and they are pricks to almost everyone wanting to buy a special model.
Obviously you've never owned or drove one... You think Porsche are pricks with their top tier models? Try Ferrari, Lambo, or McLaren then
@@trance9158 Thank you, I have own 4 different 911 Porsches.
@@trance9158 You can place an order today for any Ferrari or McLaren at LIST PRICE. Try doing that for a Porsche GT3.
@@trance9158 I have owned about 30+ different sports cars.
Quite sad then than an heavier and less powered 991.2 GT3 is faster around pretty much every track than the 600LT…
"Will beat' is an assumption. Like his whole video basically. And you know what they say. Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups.
Nah... The mustang will never beat the 9/11 GT2 RS around the nurburgring.
Why doesn’t Ford go for the current record holding manufacturer…. Oh, cause it looks better to throw the PORSCHE name in there 😃 (Mercedes is a side note)
Nobody knows who actually
Holds the record. The car
Community is too obsessed
With holding Porsches nuts
@@WindyCity1992 hell, if you could afford a few of them you’d be holding those nuts 🥜 too 😂🤣😂
Black series is faster around the nur
Better go check latest data
@@trance9158 broski, that’s a manthey gt2rs, it has aftermarket parts bud Lolz
@@MindyLou so does the Black series and obviously that mustang does too!!
@@trance9158 no no no, you don’t get it, manthey is aftermarket company that took a production car and made it faster. The GTD and black series, are design and released to the public to spec by the manufacturer, “production vehicle”.
@@MindyLou I'll still put a factory Porsche GT 3 or even a 2. Which car has the current record?? Anytime anyone beats the Porsche record, Porsche turns around and takes it right back.
Great!! But it’s not a real big accomplishment, considering the cubic inch advantage of the Mustang.
Im just going to tell you off the bat. GTD will never beat Porsche in the Nurnberg ring
put money on?