Here's why I sold my Lotus Emira and bought a McLaren..

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
  • I recently decided to sell my Lotus Emira and then went on the hunt for something special to replace it with and here it is!
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  • @GTSCarLife
    @GTSCarLife 3 месяца назад +693

    This is exactly the kind of openness and personal conversation that made so many of us subscribe to Harry in the first place. Congratulations on your new McLaren!

    • @markstewart7559
      @markstewart7559 3 месяца назад +9

      Yes, exactly, Harry makes you feel like he’s telling you as a friend. This isn’t something you can just conjure up, it’s genuine.

    • @Motivatorteo
      @Motivatorteo 2 месяца назад

      Agreed!! So down to earth.

  • @pauldorset2124
    @pauldorset2124 3 месяца назад +1150

    The fatal comment, “We’ll just go and have a look!” 😊

    • @sjr999r
      @sjr999r 3 месяца назад +50

      My mother said that to me about my oldman ‘he’s just gone to look at it’
      Yeah mum,but he’s taken the trailer with him 🫣

    • @HQBProductions
      @HQBProductions 3 месяца назад +8

      “….but you see it was an absolute bargain….” Yes…just having a look is a very dangerous move!😀😀😀😀

    • @Mr1974tps
      @Mr1974tps 3 месяца назад +2

      my wife knows what that means now (after a few cars bought 'having a look') so any man maths is strictly reviewed before appointments are made...!

    • @delewan
      @delewan 3 месяца назад +8

      Cars, bikes, puppies... its the same effect.

    • @Chris-hw4mq
      @Chris-hw4mq 3 месяца назад

      Trading the lotus for the 650s will be a costly mistake

  • @TelepartyPlays
    @TelepartyPlays 3 месяца назад +554

    Really respect Harry’s openness on his full thought process, the cars he considered and the cost involved. As a viewer it’s nice to have a window into this.

    • @aviator-kn8zq
      @aviator-kn8zq 3 месяца назад +1

      Yes indeed

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 3 месяца назад +1

      Well, we didn't really get the full cost involved because he didn't say what the full cost of the new car was, or how much he got for the old one.

  • @MattBradshaw
    @MattBradshaw 3 месяца назад +140

    It’s a testament to Harry and the way he comes across that he can say something like, “I walk into the garage and I don’t know which car to choose” and not sound the slightest bit pretentious.

    • @secretsquirrel3793
      @secretsquirrel3793 3 месяца назад +3

      I wonder how often the Countach goes to Tesco's, given that it's the preferred car for any trip?! "Just nipping to the shops love" ... Several hours later the red missile pulls into a small Ullapool supermarket carpark.

    • @TheAlkennedy
      @TheAlkennedy 3 месяца назад +7

      And then follow up with "it's nearly always the Countach" and we all nod like of course it is!

    • @stevezodiac575
      @stevezodiac575 3 месяца назад +2

      And that is why we can relate to him, even though our transport options are more limited. In my case: my car, the wife's car (no thank you), the bike, or the bus. Hmm perhaps I need a motorcycle again..?

    • @brusselssprouts560
      @brusselssprouts560 2 месяца назад +2

      He is lucky to have that much money, so maybe he could spend some of it in extra taxes to help rebuild the UK. I doubt he would agree though.

    • @robbrown289
      @robbrown289 2 месяца назад +4

      @@brusselssprouts560 He's probably spent a good amount on VAT for those cars.

  • @911hillclimber
    @911hillclimber 3 месяца назад +86

    Master class of presentation. No tat, no screams and whoooop whoops, just a compelling watch. Pure 'Harry' Great stuff, and look forward to more on the experiences with the car.

  • @berger756
    @berger756 3 месяца назад +399

    I'm happy for Harry and his new ride! Now back to reality and my 2013 Volvo S60 T5 with 145,000 miles.

    • @HammAlexander
      @HammAlexander 3 месяца назад +5

      4 cilinder ford? So sorry....

    • @seanhershey3390
      @seanhershey3390 3 месяца назад +3

      xc70 owner here..

    • @Canadian_Gamer
      @Canadian_Gamer 3 месяца назад +19

      I would rather your T5 over Harry’s new “purple” ride 😆🍆

    • @explorelondon3695
      @explorelondon3695 3 месяца назад

      😂😂

    • @sanmiguel4019
      @sanmiguel4019 3 месяца назад +33

      @@HammAlexander Wrong, T5s had the 5 pot lump, lovely engine actually!!!

  • @ThorneyMotorsport
    @ThorneyMotorsport 3 месяца назад +1366

    Appreciate the shout out, glad we could help.

    • @brianiswrong
      @brianiswrong 3 месяца назад +26

      You should be congratulated for your honesty on what to look for and how much £££ a seemingly " showroom fresh " used mclaren can bite you .

    • @NowGoWalkOutTheDoor
      @NowGoWalkOutTheDoor 3 месяца назад +12

      Damn it, now I definitely know its a mclaren before the cover came off! Thanks Thorney!

    • @McLaren750S
      @McLaren750S 3 месяца назад +5

      Mclaren Legends.

    • @Accountank
      @Accountank 3 месяца назад

      Top tip, don't read the comments before watching the video, if you don't want spoilers on the video ​@@NowGoWalkOutTheDoor😅

    • @folkmoot36
      @folkmoot36 3 месяца назад +7

      @@terryreynolds582 Yes, like the small accumulators that keep failing, and there's not enough room to fit the upgrade accumulators.
      Still a hyper car for 100k, Harry's on to a winner.

  • @eljayr4669
    @eljayr4669 3 месяца назад +1169

    When Britains most respected motoring journalist wants out, that is a serious kick in the teeth for Lotus. Wishing you all the best with your McLaren.

    • @apb3251
      @apb3251 3 месяца назад +180

      When a millionaire drops a £90k car for one that cost 4x that when new, only an idiot would think it was the fault of Lotus. Like if you trade in a Dacia Duster for a McLaren 570, not really a kick in the teeth for Dacia is it

    • @eljayr4669
      @eljayr4669 3 месяца назад +81

      @@apb3251 I am not an idiot and you have completely missed the point I was making. Incidentally if you bought a McLaren after a Dacia, it would be an upgrade and good luck to you.

    • @splodge5714
      @splodge5714 3 месяца назад +51

      So Harry didn't like the Lotus. Big deal. When he's fed up with the McLaren I suppose they will fold.

    • @greenwoodys
      @greenwoodys 3 месяца назад +3

      Or both 😏

    • @apb3251
      @apb3251 3 месяца назад +45

      @@eljayr4669 then you have missed my point. Lotus will sell numbers of these cars, already happened in China due to the owner. The supply issue in the UK is over and the second hand market has them near new for £68k so Harry is getting out before the loss is significant but him trading it in is not the fault of Lotus, he admits he just didn’t drive it enough to justify keeping it. Something anyone with multiple cars has faced in the past.

  • @matauboy
    @matauboy 3 месяца назад +62

    The nice thing about Harry is he takes you along with him . He's spending 50-60 K on a car and you're glad he managed the deal. 😮😊

  • @Woohoo-1122
    @Woohoo-1122 3 месяца назад +53

    Could tell it was a McLaren immediately but wasn’t sure which one… they all look similar to be fair.

    • @Jim-wr9iz
      @Jim-wr9iz 2 месяца назад +2

      Fair.

    • @billgordon6489
      @billgordon6489 Месяц назад

      Yeah me too when I read the effing title 😂.

    • @Woohoo-1122
      @Woohoo-1122 Месяц назад

      Well it’s much easier to tell now it’s in the title! 😂

  • @Ground53
    @Ground53 3 месяца назад +150

    Forget the car, thanks Harry I have discovered the bank of England inflation calculator😂
    . You learn something new everyday

    • @HUMC5
      @HUMC5 3 месяца назад +16

      Too bad the inflation numbers are cooked. Real inflation is over 5%.

    • @treystone1993
      @treystone1993 3 месяца назад

      ​@@HUMC5Sadly, yes, the entire western world has decided to consider their citizens as morons incapable of understanding maths and are publishing pure fiction as their results for their inflation calculations.

    • @procatprocat9647
      @procatprocat9647 3 месяца назад +3

      @@HUMC5 Explain how you get that

  • @alanwayte432
    @alanwayte432 3 месяца назад +97

    I own an Evora 19plate, initially I was excited about replacing it with an Emira, the interior was astonishing in terms of functionality and quality, but something put me off, yes the Evora is not as civilised, but this morning I took it for a 5am trip to our cottage in Wales, traffic was light, I am still smiling at 5pm❤

    • @AnagramAutoclassics
      @AnagramAutoclassics 3 месяца назад +6

      And observed every 20 mph limit, of course. 😉

    • @spencerbrowning4126
      @spencerbrowning4126 3 месяца назад +5

      I loved my 19 plate GT410 Sport in Monaco white. Got Emira now which I equally love

    • @themidnighttavern6784
      @themidnighttavern6784 3 месяца назад +2

      I personally view the evora as being far more desirable. Imo, it's the best looking car lotus ever made, and they're apparently extremely reliable, at least the automatic versions are. I'm genuinely planning on getting one in the coming years.
      I don't think you're missing out on much with this new lotus, it looks like a lumpy frog.

    • @stardogMLB
      @stardogMLB 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@themidnighttavern6784the Evora is, indeed, a nice looking car. I personally think the Elite is the best looking Lotus with a huge nod to the mid-90's Espirit.

    • @axe2grind244
      @axe2grind244 3 месяца назад +5

      Gimme a supercharged Emira with a 6 speed and I’d need plastic surgery to remove the smile from my face.

  • @lchan1977
    @lchan1977 2 месяца назад +2

    HG youtube is so pleasant to watch. It is like meeting someone really friendly at the bar and telling you their stories or adventures.

  • @navion1946
    @navion1946 3 месяца назад +28

    To be honest I’m more excited about the Emira. You can always buy higher speed, but the Emira strikes a neat balance of great, accessible performance and economy.

    • @rowen0fstrata
      @rowen0fstrata 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah that’s where I’m at too. Looks like he caved to the power of branding.

    • @scottcrawford3745
      @scottcrawford3745 3 месяца назад +4

      @@rowen0fstrata I don't believe that he "caved" at all. He upgraded. That McLaren is a hell of a car. Ride like a firm luxury sport sedan. Steer like go-carts. And accelerate like the Devil Himself is after your car's soul.

    • @davidfoster3814
      @davidfoster3814 3 месяца назад +6

      Agreed.
      Also I think the McLaren , especially in such a dark colour, looks so aggressive .
      The Emira looks pure class .

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 3 месяца назад +1

      Seems like a few comments are posted by Lotus company employees family members friends, trying to keep the hype train rolling for investors & customers of a lpoor customer care model, methinks....
      I wonder how they'll bite ..?😅

    • @charliephk
      @charliephk 2 месяца назад +1

      @@scottcrawford3745 couldn't agree more, it's actually a complement to Emira that it took this insane machine from MSO to replace the Emira: not issue with that decision, two great cars in their segments.

  • @Renzsu
    @Renzsu 3 месяца назад +21

    Wow that's quite a car, I love the yellow accents and even that large lettering on the seats. Beautiful color as well, always thought that purple made for quite a classy and confident look.

  • @MiataBRG
    @MiataBRG 3 месяца назад +135

    I'm a bit bored of my new Astra. Might put another £50k in to PX for something else...

    • @mattWallJsy
      @mattWallJsy 3 месяца назад +2

      And you’ll still only have a third of a McLaren…. 😢

    • @DueGreg
      @DueGreg 3 месяца назад

      It is more than 50% of a 650s

    • @beastieboy3926
      @beastieboy3926 3 месяца назад +2

      So your happy to part with £51 K. Ha,only jokin`.There`s nothin` wrong with an Astra.

    • @scabthecat
      @scabthecat 3 месяца назад +10

      I've decided to put a new tyre on my Fiesta because I just don't like driving with a bald tyre.

    • @davidfoster3814
      @davidfoster3814 3 месяца назад

      Good move !

  • @gmr409
    @gmr409 3 месяца назад +6

    Beautiful Harry, just beautiful. All McLaren are wonderful, but this one is rare and special. A perfect addition to the garage.

  • @kiwi335d
    @kiwi335d 3 месяца назад +4

    Great video Harry. I see allot of people commenting on the idea that you selling the Emira is somehow a kick in the teeth for Lotus, however if one looks around at all the amazing cars in your shed, then it is easy to see why the Emira should be the one chosen to go. It was great to see the videos of you spec’ing, ordering, visiting the build at the factory, new car pick up day and the fabulous road trip abroad in the Emira. I’m not sure what else you’d need the Emira for, when you have all those other performance cars sitting there waiting in the shed, but I am sure the next owner will be as excited to take ownership of the Emira as you were. Congratulations on the beautiful McLaren and looking forward to some amazing video content with it soon.

  • @hamidq9547
    @hamidq9547 3 месяца назад +7

    I love the story of this purchase! You’ve just described the process so many of us go through I suspect - whatever the budget!

  • @PixelVogue
    @PixelVogue 3 месяца назад +51

    Jack at Royal Steering wheels isn't too far from you Harry, man to see to sort out the steering wheel 👍 Done afew for me over the years.

    • @baronvonhoughton
      @baronvonhoughton 3 месяца назад

      Agreed, I got mine done there. Super job.

    • @rare6499
      @rare6499 3 месяца назад

      Done a few for me in the past and always doesn’t fine job 😎

    • @neilparry14
      @neilparry14 3 месяца назад +1

      Had mine done by Royal, great job.

    • @SmallBlogV8
      @SmallBlogV8 3 месяца назад

      Can also confirm, does a good job.

    • @atom999
      @atom999 3 месяца назад

      100pc agree. Retrimmed steering wheen will make the car feel fresh

  • @bblair2627
    @bblair2627 3 месяца назад +51

    The story and the thought process from the Lotus to the Mclaren was genuinely fascinating. I went out to the drive and looked at my Civic for a few moments and my wife shouted "don't even think about it". Thing is, I was going to keep the Civic and upgrade her! hey ho

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 3 месяца назад

      Civic's do have a strong and wide range of well developed thorough parts availabilities open to them, some of which aren't relativistically expensive either for the gains.
      Plus a lot of good & reasoned knowledge among their tuning owners clubs, forum group's, communities etc;
      ...with a bit of self research to spot & ignore the few egotestical fools offering bad advice within those said communities.

  • @marky9117
    @marky9117 3 месяца назад +2

    Nice to know even Harry does the old “Low to high” filter.
    It’s my go-to setting the moment the classifieds page loads up. 😄

  • @tfrowland
    @tfrowland 3 месяца назад +4

    Does anyone recall in his Lotus factory visit when Harry was talking to the Lotus engineer and enthusiastically described the Emira as looking like a budget McLaren?😂

  • @Driffttt
    @Driffttt 3 месяца назад +19

    Congratulations Harry

  • @kasperkjrsgaard1447
    @kasperkjrsgaard1447 3 месяца назад +115

    Bugger, I thought the Lotus was a winner? 😮
    Edit; okay, makes sense now. 🤔

    • @Lemma01
      @Lemma01 3 месяца назад +8

      Quite - as a Lotus fan, I'd swap for £50k (if I was allowed...). 🎉

    • @gavinsullivan9015
      @gavinsullivan9015 3 месяца назад +3

      Ditto. But a 650s I’d be out the door too!

    • @ArchimedeanEye
      @ArchimedeanEye 3 месяца назад +6

      Car seems okay, company is a dud

    • @user-ug8wx5er1w
      @user-ug8wx5er1w 3 месяца назад +1

      It’s Chinese lol

    • @kasperkjrsgaard1447
      @kasperkjrsgaard1447 3 месяца назад

      @@user-ug8wx5er1w Company is owned by Geely, but all production is in UK.

  • @vintagevinylvets1187
    @vintagevinylvets1187 3 месяца назад +2

    Thank you for sharing this video Harry. I learned a lot. I think you have the best car videos by a MILE. Very thorough, very informative and entertaining. Can’t wait to watch your first road trip!!🙏🏻🏁

  • @FELIXTOO2
    @FELIXTOO2 3 месяца назад +11

    Lovely spec on that Harry, congrats!!

  • @StuOldroyd
    @StuOldroyd 3 месяца назад +35

    Harry - having fun a 650s Spider for 15,000 miles, the Michelins are far superior to the Pirelli’s. It’s like night and day. So much more grip, poise and feel.

    • @coolguy_2997
      @coolguy_2997 3 месяца назад +3

      It’s actually hard to name a tire manufacturer nowadays that is inferior to Pirelli in terms of grip levels in their sport line series. Any pick of good Chinese, Japanese, or South Korean brands will be far better, while being cheaper

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 3 месяца назад

      I could never trust tyres made in/by/for the PRC, upon any expensive and/or any high performance vehicle ever.
      Perhaps for a cheap runabout, but even then, so many EU & Japanese tyre companies offer better averagely cheap tyres with longer more trustworthy pedigrees of quality control and construction materials, than the future repercussions that WILL be found in time, with Mainland Chinese tyre companies products, as all PRC products eventually and inevitably do suffer from .

    • @coolguy_2997
      @coolguy_2997 3 месяца назад

      @@razor1uk610 your ‘trust’ is your subjective feeling based on nothing actually, because many of Michelin and other EU brands actually produce a giant share of their products in China, because it’s by far the largest and most profitable car market in the world, so logistics-wise it’s well-reasoned , moreover its easier and cheaper to renew equipment in China, therefore products are produced of better quality. Moreover, if you ever were at a current track, drifting or time attack event, you would know that the majority of even track-prepped Ferraris and Porsches now run on Nankang tires, that are relatively affordable while being on par or better performing than best EU competition. The world is changing so get your knowledge up to it.

  • @skodakid1
    @skodakid1 3 месяца назад +8

    Great video- I love the fact Harry could be talking about any expensive car he has or wants but never sounds like a show off - just a proper car enthusiast ….. he consistently shows the young RUclipsrs like JWW or TGE how to do it.

    • @ianmuir3640
      @ianmuir3640 3 месяца назад

      JWW is not bad but he likes to play the rich guy show off

    • @robertosacchi689
      @robertosacchi689 3 месяца назад

      @@ianmuir3640 Shmee150 even more so

    • @spainter1985
      @spainter1985 3 месяца назад

      Very true, he's not a tosser like JWW

  • @joedesi99
    @joedesi99 3 месяца назад +38

    Drove an Emira on track. It’ll blow the minds of 90% of most people. Fantastic little sports car.

    • @pobinr
      @pobinr 3 месяца назад +2

      Oh but it's not as fast as a car costing 4x as much 🙄

    • @joedesi99
      @joedesi99 3 месяца назад +6

      Can you really drive these cars as they are intended on public roads though? End up just getting frustrated as you never come near their limits which is when you start to connect with the car. They only work on track and even then the risk of having a very expensive accident is high so most owners don’t push it

    • @jamesw1659
      @jamesw1659 3 месяца назад +2

      I did the Lotus Driving Experience at their test track at Hethel, and I agree completely. It is a superb little sports car. It is also prettier than most of the competition.

  • @flat4-
    @flat4- 3 месяца назад +1

    Congrats Harry, this really is a car for you. I wish you many safe and fun lives with it and keep the video's coming. !!!

  • @AntoniusTyas
    @AntoniusTyas 3 месяца назад +177

    The Geely vision of Lotus is to use Lotus credential to sell Geely products. No disrespect to Chinese cars, my friend owns an Omoda 5 and it is a really good car, but I absolutely despise what Geely is doing. Those new Lotus people have been calling old Lotus fans and workers as 'bobblehats'.

    • @_Ben4810
      @_Ben4810 3 месяца назад +1

      The Geely vision is to sell cars & build a profitable brand. They're not jumping on the Lotus brand, heritage or credentials to flog other Geely products whatsoever. If they were bringing out Lotus Volvo, Lotus Polestar, Lotus Zeekr or even Lotus London Taxi variants then fair enough, but they're pushing Lotus in an unprecedented direction which Colin Chapman (& Fred Bu$hell....) could only have dreamed of.
      Let the cryboys cry, because had they not bought Group Lotus, continuing to build an ever decreasing 300no Elises a year would have turned Hethel into a self storage facility or a Banham Poultry chicken farm to cover the overheads.

    • @mrrakalanov
      @mrrakalanov 3 месяца назад +3

      Omoda? You are from russia?

    • @MrMightyytau
      @MrMightyytau 3 месяца назад +20

      I absolutely agree, To me and other old Lotus people, the last Real LOTUS's were the Elise Exige and Evora,

    • @michaelbarton4787
      @michaelbarton4787 3 месяца назад +9

      Sadly oldies remember brands as they used to be, so having a great big EV SUV is just goig to kill the brand in alot of peoples eyes.....

    • @MrCarGuy
      @MrCarGuy 3 месяца назад +7

      The plan from the beginning was to use the brand equity to compete in the massive luxury race of China. This is why you protect your culture and Lotus is a huge part of British culture

  • @olliet2977
    @olliet2977 3 месяца назад +36

    A comparative Lotus Emira alternative would be an A110 or Alfa 4C. Not a McLaren 4x the value. The emira must be very good value if this is considered a replacement

    • @TheSaint491
      @TheSaint491 3 месяца назад +3

      This is a matter of perspective: fundamentally the emira is very similar to the evora 400, which is a 50k car these days. With lotus still having qc issues, can you honestly say you’d have the looks and interior of the emira over 40k saved in your pocket with an evora? Another point to consider is depreciation, which matters to all of us, harry included. The emira has been unusual for a lotus in that they’ve lost nearly 20-25k in a small amount of time, compared to the steady residuals lotus usually have. McLaren by contrast have smoothed out the depreciation now they’ve changed their building practices with the change in management, so they’ve all slowed right down. See John thorns videos for more.

    • @danmel3978
      @danmel3978 3 месяца назад +6

      4x the value? You're not a math whiz are you

    • @ManNoName-c9u
      @ManNoName-c9u 2 месяца назад +1

      @@danmel3978 4x value new. does that help your maths Mr.Whiz? This McLaren has 80k of extras alone which is approx the cost of the Lotus, so it does seem that it is not a like-for-like swap......

    • @danmel3978
      @danmel3978 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ManNoName-c9u the lotus is valued at 100,000 and the mclaren was 117,000 that's 17,000 difference. I din't know hat the hell your confusing a 650s with because a cheap 765 lt is 4 × the value of a the lotus, you could get a 720s and a 570s for 4× the lotus. You could get a lamborgini huracan and a mclaren gt for 4 times the lotus. Even the 675 lt is 2× the value of the lotus and thats a big step up from the 650s s.Do you know what the definition of value is?

    • @ManNoName-c9u
      @ManNoName-c9u 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@danmel3978 Far be it for me to be fighting someone elses battle but 19:00 list price + extras McClaren in 2024 would be 380k, 7:30 Lotus 90k which is >4x multiple. Seems pretty reasonable to say the McClaren cost x4 the Lotus and the Lotus should be considered excellent value if the McClaren is replacing it!!!!!
      Being an accountant I can tell you 'value' means whatever the person using the word wants it to as it contains 'intangible' elements and is an 'unrealised' figure. 'Cost' is what money exits your bank account - your bank manager cares about one and not the other. You may 'value' a s/h Porsche costing 20k far more than a VW Golf costing 20k. Or not if you're liquidating someone's assets. Hope that helps.
      Sheesh......

  • @lloydbrock2711
    @lloydbrock2711 3 месяца назад +1

    Congratulations Harry. Love the excitement of a new chariot!

  • @niosanfrancisco
    @niosanfrancisco 3 месяца назад +12

    WOW ! LOVE THE COLOUR. !

  • @sutats
    @sutats 3 месяца назад +46

    +1 if you're old enough to remember the 12C was initially named MP4-12C.

    • @robertdavies922
      @robertdavies922 3 месяца назад +3

      Old enough to have one in the garage 😊

    • @jimpydj
      @jimpydj 3 месяца назад +3

      And me 😊

    • @STERNWAERTS
      @STERNWAERTS 3 месяца назад +4

      sounds like a calculator model

    • @tm55555
      @tm55555 3 месяца назад +1

      @@STERNWAERTS excuse me, it's a fax machine and also I have one in the garage 😄

    • @baoquoc3710
      @baoquoc3710 3 месяца назад +1

      Well it would be hilarious if you see a Tesla named X-AE-A12 too.

  • @huzaifanadeem188
    @huzaifanadeem188 3 месяца назад +5

    Cool spec !, Can't wait for a road trip video in this beauty!!!!

  • @CCFerrariF1
    @CCFerrariF1 3 месяца назад +1

    Not a black car lover either (despite my L322 being black) but this amethyst black is absolutely stunning! A hint of purple too. Wishing you all the best with your McLaren, Harry. Enjoy it in good health, thanks for the openness of the story - Best from America 🇺🇸

  • @NightfallDrives
    @NightfallDrives 3 месяца назад +4

    Congratulations Harry, great choice. Hoping to put a 650s spider alongside my Evora someday, if your ownership doesn’t bump up prices 😆 Sad to see Emira go, let me know if you’d like to sample an original Evora S for a bit 👍

  • @nigelbond4056
    @nigelbond4056 3 месяца назад +63

    Lotus are playing a dangerous game. Over priced and under delivered; their self-inflicted woes are sure to continue.

    • @TheAlkennedy
      @TheAlkennedy 3 месяца назад

      It's such a shame, they are designing really really beautiful cars.

    • @treennumbers
      @treennumbers 3 месяца назад

      Lotus gonna Lotus, as the kids say.

  • @alfonsodriver1324
    @alfonsodriver1324 3 месяца назад +27

    What has happened to your best car, Harry! Your 1954 Land Rover 86 Inch? Kindest regards - Keep Up The Great Videos!

    • @PaulFellows3430
      @PaulFellows3430 3 месяца назад +1

      He still has it and uses it every day on his farm!

    • @garryarmit8688
      @garryarmit8688 3 месяца назад +1

      It has been away with head gasket problems.

  • @MichaelsFJRestorationProject
    @MichaelsFJRestorationProject 3 месяца назад +1

    Utterly stunning Harry! Fabulous. Really look forward to seeing more of this. Michael

  • @paulbush7095
    @paulbush7095 3 месяца назад

    As much as I want to I just can’t bring myself to be resentful and jealous of you. Sincere congratulations on another fine addition to your collection Mr. Harry! At least I can enjoy your incredibly tasteful compilation of autos vicariously.

  • @seanhershey3390
    @seanhershey3390 3 месяца назад +74

    I still hate black wheels on anything

    • @LawrenceTimme
      @LawrenceTimme 3 месяца назад +4

      Bit racist

    • @mimo5383
      @mimo5383 3 месяца назад +2

      @@LawrenceTimme Which bit?

    • @nickpage2949
      @nickpage2949 3 месяца назад +3

      And wheels with an even number of spokes don’t work

    • @8arcbal
      @8arcbal 3 месяца назад +5

      Agree - silver alloy wheels looks great. Good example is Harry's ex Emira.

    • @mikeholling8830
      @mikeholling8830 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah couldn’t agree more.👍🏻

  • @EleanorPeterson
    @EleanorPeterson 3 месяца назад +7

    If I were in Harry's position - walking into the garage, wondering which car to take for a thrash around the B-roads - I think that more often than not I'd pick the Elan.
    Sophistication is all very well, but it can be a pain, too. Compared to today's ever-more bloated techno-toys, the Elan has all the sophistication of a bike, and that's what makes it [for me] such a long-term winner.
    How nice to have a simple, lightweight, analogue, old-school car with an entry/ignition key and ordinary door handles, a simple engine and gearbox, and a well-sorted suspension. Modern cars seem to treat the driver as an optional accessory - just part of their 'assisted cruise' specification.
    They decide how you can operate them (I get the impression that some won't even let you open the doors if they're not in the mood); the Elan just does what you tell it to. I like that. Yes, it's a Lotus, and yes, it'll probably go wrong, but at least you can beat it over the head with a Haynes manual and put it right yourself.

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 3 месяца назад

      I wonder if Harry should get or has a MST Escort in a relatively basic/simple to trolling weapon spec that'd be as easy of usability, reliability, driver enjoyment & feel etc as the old Lotus is, does...?

  • @biffabeau
    @biffabeau 3 месяца назад +26

    Thought the Lotus was a better looking car.

    • @TweakRacer
      @TweakRacer 2 месяца назад +3

      It looks like a baby McLaren 😂

    • @Jim-wr9iz
      @Jim-wr9iz 2 месяца назад

      The Show Car definitely was. As you, I, and most other enthusiasts know, There's always a letdown between the concept/show version of a car to production.

  • @VinderGroup3
    @VinderGroup3 13 дней назад

    I’ve got huge admiration for Harry explaining his reasons, sad as they are as the Emira is a beautiful car and British. However he also shows some lessons to be learned, think very carefully before buying a car especially when the price isn’t disclosed to you as a buyer and is it really what I want? I don’t have the cash to buy without knowing the price so I’m in a different position but hats off to Harry for his honesty here. Great video as always.

  • @Hopgop1
    @Hopgop1 3 месяца назад +1

    When you put tyres on it, please put some Michelins on, those Pirellis are deadly when it's wet IMO, although I don't expect you'll drive this much in the rain.

    • @Hopgop1
      @Hopgop1 3 месяца назад +1

      Never mind, going with Pirelli again, wouldn't be my choice

  • @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
    @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 3 месяца назад +5

    Got super excited when he mentioned that GT... That's the McLaren I'd choose.

    • @PSUK997
      @PSUK997 3 месяца назад +1

      I sold one once and the client traded in a Mulsanne in that he was currently doing a serious mile road trip in. EVERYTHING from the Mulsanne fitted inside. It was remarkable and hilarious at the same time!

  • @Scalarissa
    @Scalarissa 3 месяца назад +12

    We had a space in the garage after moving our F430 on. My wife was all in on the Emira having owned an elan in the 90s. We held off until our friends bought one but they ended up stranded in France on their maiden voyage. Such a shame. We've since filled the space with a v12 ferrari and are delighted with it. I do hope Lotus produce a new reliable Esprit in the future. My boyhood dream car and we will make a space in the garage for it

    • @MrBlaadieblaa
      @MrBlaadieblaa 3 месяца назад +1

      You can just tell us what v12 Ferrari you got, we won't judge.

    • @Scalarissa
      @Scalarissa 3 месяца назад

      My avatar gives it away

    • @axe2grind244
      @axe2grind244 3 месяца назад +1

      How does one get stranded driving a car powered by a Camry engine. That sounds like outrageously bad luck more than anything.

    • @Scalarissa
      @Scalarissa 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@axe2grind244Ask Lotus. They picked it up in France and returned it 5 weeks later. Electronics was hinted at. Frankly, we left it at that. Not for us.

    • @caseytailfly
      @caseytailfly 3 месяца назад +2

      As a vintage Lotus owner it sounds like a very authentic Lotus experience 😂

  • @spencerbrowning4126
    @spencerbrowning4126 3 месяца назад +31

    I still love my V6 Emira

    • @paulhayes5793
      @paulhayes5793 3 месяца назад +7

      3 year warranty and manual 400bhp. Spot on if you can only have 1 car.

    • @gbarton800
      @gbarton800 3 месяца назад +2

      Agreed, a Lotus w/warranty over a McLaren without.
      I would like better seats and a lower seating position in my Emira. Still doing research… 🧐.

    • @deanchur
      @deanchur 3 месяца назад

      It's what the 3rd NSX should have been.

    • @stevetillett3537
      @stevetillett3537 3 месяца назад

      @@gbarton800 I have the solution to the seats. I promise.

    • @bankser
      @bankser 3 месяца назад

      Me too!

  • @kornonacob
    @kornonacob 2 месяца назад

    After harry tested the new 750s, i straight away ordered one the same color n specs.... now im enjoying it as my daily drive

  • @deankushin-lifecoach7778
    @deankushin-lifecoach7778 3 месяца назад +1

    Congratulations Harry, fantastic motor 👌 enjoy driving it 😊

  • @carolnoel9348
    @carolnoel9348 3 месяца назад +5

    definitely a step up over the Lotus

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 3 месяца назад +2

      Umm it was £300K new!

    • @4Kandlez
      @4Kandlez 3 месяца назад +1

      Yes a 50k step up

  • @phildavies7666
    @phildavies7666 3 месяца назад +6

    Having seen the new Lotus saloon and the 4x4 truck i found myself feeling disappointed. They just looked like cadilacs and lacked a sport feel, which is what a Lotus should be. The Emira is lovely, but i can't get it out of out of my mind that Lotus are no longer Lotus. Why Geely bought a very specific sports car company to turn it into a run of the mill production car compantly is bejond me. I also have issues that it's a chinesse company to be frank. It is still a country run by dictators at end of the day..

  • @AlphaGT4
    @AlphaGT4 3 месяца назад +1

    You really kept it very diplomatic here on the outgoing car. Nonetheless, Congrats on your new ride!!!

  • @Obi.Aleisawi
    @Obi.Aleisawi 3 месяца назад

    Congrats Harry, it’s a beautiful spec and I think you’ll find that more as time passes now, she’s a beaut and keeper I’d say

  • @geraint8989
    @geraint8989 3 месяца назад +47

    Well done, RUclips, for giving me a Lotus Emira ad during this vid. Lotus marketing getting it right again.

    • @mrb4211
      @mrb4211 3 месяца назад +2

      I got one too. Emira ad at 15 minutes 42s.

  • @edwowen
    @edwowen 3 месяца назад +4

    Congrats Harry! look forward to seeing how this goes. Any McLaren warranty?

  • @rob_lightbody
    @rob_lightbody 3 месяца назад

    Harry's deep understanding of both cars is the same as i have when switching cars, even if my budget is usually a tenth of his!
    I'm a car enthusiast who doesn't understand the appeal of a super fast car, and prefer something more like his Elan (or my mini) where you can work the car hard legally on the road.
    Love the colour and the special MSO history, You've done the right thing Harry!!

  • @carguy7627
    @carguy7627 3 месяца назад +2

    I’m confused why the production and other model issues have anything to do with your enjoyment of the Emira. I think you summed it up by saying you didn’t drive it as much as you thought because of what else you have available. Not sure what the rest of the Lotus brand stuff had to do with your Emira ownership experience. Congrats on the 650S. Looks like a beautiful car. I love the color.

  • @nickchadwick6030
    @nickchadwick6030 3 месяца назад +4

    Very ironic that an Emira advert pops up while watching this!

    • @bw1376
      @bw1376 3 месяца назад

      Lotus appears to be spending a fortune on advertising.

    • @jondonnelly3
      @jondonnelly3 3 месяца назад

      I got an AVIS rent a car and Venus pubic hair razor.

  • @pt99810
    @pt99810 3 месяца назад

    Terrific choice Harry and great detail in video. Your honesty, openness and authenticity are compelling. Lookingh forward to video of your driving new toy!

  • @jonoagustin870
    @jonoagustin870 3 месяца назад

    Wow, what a fantastic story.....Harry's just bought a "new" car for ~ 60% less than its original new cost....but its 9 years old.??....must be something very special ......and so it is !! Your infectious happiness in your new car made me re-run this video and I look forward to seeing more on this little known car and sharing your journey of its ownership. Best regards John

  • @darraghokeeffe7877
    @darraghokeeffe7877 3 месяца назад +3

    If you didn’t know anything about McLaren and saw that car. You’d say it was brand-new. That design has not aged one second.
    It’s not really fair to compare it to the Lotus. They are so far apart in the marketplace, in the ethos, and in the performance.

  • @chriswaggett163
    @chriswaggett163 3 месяца назад +4

    Thanks Harry, for walking the journey many of us take!
    However, I was struck by the McLaren’s horrendous depreciation made worse by the inflation adjustment factor, making it 50-66% by my rough maths. Ouch!
    The Lotus holds its value way better & at a 1/3rd the price is definitely not 1/3 the car. I expect servicing will be 3x too.
    I have contemplated the same dilemma but ended sticking with my 2017 Evora 400 as it’s sublime handling & 400bhp is perfect for real world canyon carving in Colorado, USA.
    The problem with McLarens IMHO is far too much unusable power outside the track that combined with insane initial MSRP & depreciation is a complete killer.
    Great reviews ‘though & luv the color.
    Enjoy.

    • @garethmcrae668
      @garethmcrae668 3 месяца назад

      650S has depreciated and stabilised though- whereas Loti...

  • @chawenhalo0089
    @chawenhalo0089 3 месяца назад +7

    10 yrs old McL... Brave pill going on a long trip...

  • @iainsallotment-plot5245
    @iainsallotment-plot5245 3 месяца назад

    Brilliant video just the right amount of suspense 13 minutes in and he uncovered the car with real excitement brilliant thst harry gets excited about his new purchase

  • @amadigidigaula771
    @amadigidigaula771 3 месяца назад

    Very sorry to hear about the disappointment of the Lotus after the initial buzz (I remember those videos), must be such a bummer. I hope the new one does better. Neither are my cup of tea - but I enjoy watching your videos. I personally wouldn’t spend one moment thinking about either of them when you have those other cars in the garage.

  • @TheHomeExpert5
    @TheHomeExpert5 3 месяца назад +6

    I'm a big fan of Harry and of McLaren's but this one looks dirty and lacks beauty due to the color, I think. I've never seen anyone so enamored with the "look" of carbon fiber. I've never found it that attractive. Harry sounds like he wet his pants over the amount of carbon fiber in this car...

  • @carstenrubner520
    @carstenrubner520 3 месяца назад

    Great to see Harry light up like its christmas....nice present to give your self.🙏..

  • @greengreenie55
    @greengreenie55 3 месяца назад

    A nice view of the full though process behind the decisions. Thanks for being so open about these things.

  • @jeremylockey3220
    @jeremylockey3220 3 месяца назад +20

    I'm concluding that the Emira didn't feel special enough given your car history? I do think Lotus deserve some credit for producing a car that many people including myself can aspire to own & afford to maintain.

    • @nickb-
      @nickb- 3 месяца назад

      Maybe more about a big falling out with Lotus after his very negative review of the Eletre?

    • @JasonLambPage
      @JasonLambPage 3 месяца назад +3

      his Emira was just about my favorite car in the garage. I'm disappointed.

  • @liamcooke8426
    @liamcooke8426 3 месяца назад

    I was thinking to myself “I wonder if that is the same colour as P1 OOV” just as you told us in the video that it is, it’s certainly a beautiful colour. I love the ever so slight hint of purple.

  • @D3Brian
    @D3Brian 3 месяца назад

    An enthusiast’s review can be intoxicating to watch. Regardless of the subject matter, enthusiasm shines through every time. Enjoy the car Harry!

  • @gp1683
    @gp1683 3 месяца назад +5

    There's no denying Lotus overpromised and underdelivered big time. The Emira was late, it cost A LOT more than promised and its riddled with quality and build issues. Geely is going to pull the plug eventually and that'll be the end of Lotus

    • @nickb-
      @nickb- 3 месяца назад

      You know nothing, Jon Snow.

  • @obsidian....
    @obsidian.... 3 месяца назад +5

    19:47 Carbon fiber monocoque vs Aluminum (in the Ferrari). That is what accounts for that price difference 👍

    • @ouch9326
      @ouch9326 3 месяца назад

      higher rate rate of escaping danger and harmonies(v8 sound over v6) makes it more valuable. besides that, driving for efficiency the only other fun. otherwise, just get a cheap car that isnt too full of non harmonious noise, a honda civic/corolla sort of thing of recent times is enough. base model used kia telluride currently does saftey for the least money. ...........safety, affordability, mass's sustainability and toxicity reduction, driving fun, all can be had in one perfect car but current culture doesn't appreciate a proper car even if you ignore the " mass's sustainability and toxicity reduction," parts.

  • @bouwmr
    @bouwmr 3 месяца назад +8

    The first upgrade to this car has to be painting the wheels silver!

  • @VindicatorsTwo
    @VindicatorsTwo 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video as usual. I wish Harry also included data and projection on Emira depreciation.

  • @jairoajaramillo6239
    @jairoajaramillo6239 3 месяца назад

    Top work Harry teasing the reveal!! I haven't been this on the edge of my seat since the Euros😂

  • @fastricky4923
    @fastricky4923 3 месяца назад +12

    I'm a bit disappointed by this video and the comments too. I've rewatched the videos of Harry and the Emiras - the reviews and enjoyment he expressed were very high. For those of you who say "Evora was the highwater mark", well Harry wasn't a fan of the Evora, he liked the Emira far more. So aside from having an itch for a car that retailed for three times the price, I didn't hear anything specific as to what caused the switch. Bottom line, Harry is someone who can afford a garage full of world-class, drool-worthy sports cars and also move inventory around when he likes to, so I don't think it's fair to say Lotus is now done for because he spent more to go to a MacLaren. Personally, it's a bit mad too IMHO - where are you going to drive the MacLaren in a way that exploits the sort of performance it is capable of, or that 10% more it offers over the Lotus? Me, I'd prefer the Lotus and still aspire to own one one day.

    • @NeillStaniforth
      @NeillStaniforth 3 месяца назад +2

      Agree - I think this video is incredibly disingenuous. I enjoyed Harry's enthusiasm for the Emira but now suddenly because of spurious reasons like the direction of the brand the fact that the Eletra is a bit of a disappointment it's time to get rid. As for Emira cost increases and production delays - well didn't a little thing called the pandemic have a hand in that? It was virtually impossible to buy any new car at one point because of a global microchip shortage - people were selling their cars back to dealerships for a profit. I think the truth of the matter is that Harry needs to turn cars over for the sake of his channel - nothing wrong with that, just spare us the baloney.

    • @fastricky4923
      @fastricky4923 3 месяца назад

      @@NeillStaniforth You cristalized my thoughts further. Not to file on Harry, I remain a fan but as a farm owner I would also like to think Harry has some idea about the financial structure and design marketing that would dictate an eSUV and not hold that against the company, nevermind the issues from releasing a new vehicle under a new parent company post pandemic from a company trying to remain relevant against massive rival companies etc! #emirarocks

  • @davidbrown6193
    @davidbrown6193 3 месяца назад

    Congratulations Harry, A special MSO 650S! Also an astute exchange of vehicles! Keen for you to describe your impressions compared to 750S eventually.

  • @briansteele2723
    @briansteele2723 3 месяца назад +2

    Apart from the slightly odd bonnet line I much prefer the Emira. I almost ordered an Emira but sticking with my old 1989 964 for now as dont have Harry's man maths or budget

  • @secretsquirrel3793
    @secretsquirrel3793 3 месяца назад +12

    I'm a little bothered by Mr M's remark about not wnting to be associated with Lotus as a brand. When i buy a car I'm buying a single product not marrying into a family of cars or angling to get in the manufacturer's good books to score one of their premium products (thinking of Porsche, Ferrari etc). I also don't really care what others think, so having my sports car manufacturer making SUVs, electric cars or tractors is neither here nor there. I'd be interested to hear more from Mr H on this, as long as he isn't concerned that he'll be blacklisted from future Lotus tests!

    • @rsithron
      @rsithron 3 месяца назад

      I believe it would be irresponsible of Harry not to care about his association with brands, given his influence on the public. It’s good for all of us enthusiasts that he would rather own, drive and publicise vehicles from brands he believes are invested in great motoring.

  • @fxmixer
    @fxmixer 3 месяца назад +1

    Congratualations! One of the best cars I’ve ever driven!

  • @63humanbeing
    @63humanbeing 3 месяца назад

    That’s why Harry is a legend within the industry… His brutal honesty, could be the best that ever happened to a manufacturer, or their worse nightmare, like the case of Lotus

  • @lm68lancashire60
    @lm68lancashire60 3 месяца назад +1

    Pleased for you Mr M. Excited to watch another road trip jaunt …..plus, I see you’re now a Carbon Fibre convert 😂.

  • @LoudModeOn
    @LoudModeOn 3 месяца назад

    Stunning spec! Congrats Harry, perfect addition to the garage!

  • @volvo-express
    @volvo-express 3 месяца назад

    Really can feel how much you love your new purchase!!

  • @antburman
    @antburman 3 месяца назад

    Congratulations Harry. Lovely thought process about your new car. Thank you!

  • @RichardTheRoe
    @RichardTheRoe 3 месяца назад +8

    You sold your Emira and soured on the Lotus brand because... They build an inefficient SUV? At that point you're just making excuses to justify buying a more exclusive car. 🤯

    • @billionnaire1
      @billionnaire1 3 месяца назад +1

      In reality he has seen the Lotus hype start to diminish and therefore the Values for Emira's start to drop and they will only get worse. Harry is A car nut but businessman at heart.

  • @TheChukklebunny
    @TheChukklebunny 3 месяца назад

    Absolutely thrilled for you Harry. It makes a nice pairing with your Project 8.
    You should get the guys at McLaren to sign it !

  • @EverydayEmira
    @EverydayEmira 3 месяца назад +5

    So you sell the Emira because you didn’t like the Eletre? Ok…

  • @Dino-qq2jp
    @Dino-qq2jp 3 месяца назад

    Great choice! Beautiful spec... Nice to see you purchased from the guys at Baytree in Derby... Enjoy that beauty Harry!

  • @germanochoa8532
    @germanochoa8532 3 месяца назад

    Harry, I was at Pebble for the Concourse when they showed a Cerulean Blue 650S MSO and saw it here in Newport Beach before they sent it up to the show. Has 7,000+ miles on it and for sale. Trying to decide whether to pull the trigger. Was mesmerized by it at the show.

  • @FullThrottleUK
    @FullThrottleUK 3 месяца назад +5

    Lotus thrown under a bus video

  • @GorgeousGracie
    @GorgeousGracie 3 месяца назад +1

    Harry is very savvy when it comes to value for money and future values. I suspect he feared that with Lotus' change of direction, residuals on Emira's were headed south & it was a good time to get out.

  • @JerryCarterJr-kg7hq
    @JerryCarterJr-kg7hq 3 месяца назад +1

    Harry. Great review as always. I too love McLarens. You always do a good thorough review. Thanks

  • @truth6242
    @truth6242 3 месяца назад +8

    Meh, not that exciting honestly.

  • @gvxclassics
    @gvxclassics 2 месяца назад +3

    I don't care about the McLaren. You should not have sold the Emira. It was your baby.