380 vs 9mm - Cinder Block Test
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How do you think these rounds will compare against a cinder block??? I think you will be surprised by the results!!!
I was actually pretty surprised at these results
People say a .380 is 9mm short so you should try 22lr versus 22 short
You should try a 380 with a longer barrel like a browning black label
As long as your attacker isn't made of concrete, 380 should be fine lol
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That was my thought exactly. Hope you're never attacked by a cinder block.
The cinder block test always proves the same thing. Absolutely nothing.
Not really. When you are under attack, it is best to stop the attack with the least shots as possible. This test shows the penetrating power and the 380 is vastly lacking compared to the 9mm or other bigger guns. In most cases just pulling the gun out is enough to stop the attacker, but nowadays we got thugs going around in groups attacking people and more stopping power with capacity is always better.
@@ditchdigger93 If only the guy would have used live humans, then we could find out something. *roll eyes*
There you go. Never use a 380 to hunt cinder blocks. They will just run away with a limp while cussing you.
Great video as always. I really expected the 380 to go through the first wall. At least put a small hole in it
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I carry both weapons it depends on how I'm dressing and what I feel like carrying that day they're both equally capable in my book people keep talkin about bullet size, when it's really all about shot placement.
I carry my Beretta 85BB .380 with a 3.8" barrel. No complaints.
Ditto Brother.....No kick.....Great shot placement every shot.
Need the same barrel length to make the test comparison. Big reduction in velocity with short barrel.
Seems more like a test of a 380 with a 2.8" barrel versus a 9mm with a 3.5" barrel.
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Cryptonymicus I agree. Barrel length matters in tests like these
Should have used a hi point 380 also
@@steven702Skiles Should have used a glock 42 and glock 43
I handload 380, used mag tech 95 gr. Hollow point. Fired it into two 2x4's, it penetrated through them both. Old military test was if it will go through a 1" pine board it's capable of lethal wounds. I feel good with it in my pocket
If I see a cinder block coming to attack me, I am going to run, forget taking a shot.
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380 might be a good option as to not over penetrate in close quarters
Makes sense as the 9 mm has more powder, a heavier bullet and a longer barrel.
Not what you expected? Any ballistic chart showing muzzle and range velocities comparing .380 and 9mm should have given you an indication that the 9mm would have significantly more penetration.
Joe Kenda from show Homicide Hunter said the .380 cal is deadly when a person is shot in the chest the bulletins rattles around internal and usually hits other organs.
I carry a Taurus 380 concealed all the time. I use hollow point high powered rounds. I have all the confidence in the world that in a real life gunfight which is basically inside of an elevator, the 380 will do just fine.
So many "experts" are so focused on penetration and power that they forget an equally important aspect of firing a pistol - RECOIL. When firing a pistol, the first shot requires effort to aim and hit center mass. But if the recoil is too much for the user, then the chances are you will miss your target all together with the rest of your shots. So, the caliber will make no difference. Two rounds center mass with a .380 is far more useful than a 45 missing the target. And a .380 will kill you. The CIA agents used a Walther PPK for 30 years while in the field. That should tell you something - LETHAL + RELIABLE. German officers in world war 2 used Walthers PPK's when they had access to anything. In summary, use a gun that is most comfortable in your hands and has enough recoil that you can control with multiple shots fired.
Boom! Drop the 🎤!
This should be made into a short RUclips PSA video!!!
Yes! It is all about getting the shot on target. .380 with less recoil will always be more accurate than a larger caliber with more recoil!
Yeah, .380 is plenty. People act like it is vastly inferior to a 9mm, but conveniently seem to forget the only reason the 9mm is considered "enough gun" these days is due to bullet technology, as if that same technology hasn't boosted the .380 as well. A .355in expanding projectile 1200fps is quite lethal. That same projectile at 1000fps is quite lethal as well. I doubt many who are shot with a .380 can feel the difference between the 13-15in penetration of the .380 vs the 16-18in penetration of a 9mm.
I will say that factory .380 jhp's are more hit/miss due to the lower velo since most companies don't properly pair the projectile with the cartridge and instead use the exact same ones they use in their 9mm. But as long as you find a company that uses a thinner jacket/larger hollow-point cavity, they'll expand just fine at lower velocities
Exactly right I carry a Russian made 380 makarov a walther ppk clone and it is a beast.
I wouldn't be shooting a wall for self defense , but over penatration into the next room especially in a manufactured home if go with the 380 inside a house. 9 mm may hit someone else after your target is neutralized.
Don’t you think the different barrel Length had anything to do with the different results?
i have a Kel-tec p3at .380 n i love it very much! .380 is my favorite caliber concealed carry firearm. its very adequate for a selfdefense caliber
Hate those rampaging hordes of cinder blocks! Lol!
I thought the 380 would do more. 380 looks more formidable in gel test than cinder block. Some European police departments have used 380 for a long, long time so must be good for something. Good job, thanks Who Tee.
Thanks Darrell! I definately thought the 380 would do more than just bounce off the block. I still dont want to get hit by one!
some european police departments carry 25 acp's and most all of those departments haven't shot anyone since WW2
I agree with you.
Try using shame brand ammo and same barrel length
and a different area of the same block.
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I carry a Beretta 85 BB.....380 has virtually no recoil so it's easy to stay on target.
It is all about shot placement. If you can put 4 rounds quickly, say 4 or 5 seconds, into a 3-4 inch circle at 15-20 yards....you win
Exactly right my 380 hold 8 +1 and can unload all in about 5 seconds with about a 6 inch group.
Can you do a comparison of the .327 magnum and the 9mm on the block? Thanks.
Try the Sig Elite Performance .380 rounds. I had luck with the .380 breaking the first wall of a block out of my Ruger LCP Max.
Who, you can't be serious, that cricket has a 2.75" barrel, vrs. The highpoint with a 3.5" barrel. And the ammo, Winchester vrs. Serbian junk. How about a challenge, Bersa Thunder 380, has a 3.5" barrel vrs. That Highpoint 9mm with 3.5". barrel. And just for the sake of argument, 380 FMJ. Winchester ammo vrs. 9mm you pick which one as long as it's white box.
Shorter barrel on the 380
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I just watched this so bare with me. The cinder blocks are different. Yes it matters. The 380 block is a better made block. Noticeably heavier when carried. I'm not saying it would have gone through but... Just pointing it out.
And he also used 94 grain rounds and a weak 380 pistol should had used a bersa thunder or firestorm and 100 grain bullets it would had shattered the block
knowwhat imsayin Couldn't have said it better myself!!
Bersa even with the same Winchester 95 grain would have destroyed it.
I have a 380 ruger lcp and I love this little gun it shoots just as hard as my 9mm ruger and is half the size for consilment
I carry a S&W 380 EZ with Federal HST rounds. I like it.
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so basically youll get the one your aiming at with the 380 with out getting the guy behind him
Very informative. I'll take the .380
If I ever had to shoot an intruder, I don't want to have to worry about hitting my neighbor sleeping in their bed. You don't need to use a sledge hammer to drive a finish nail.
I'm sorry to say it but this guy does not know how to properly hold a handgun nor does he know how to shoot
I think he should have fired the 9 mm. through both blocks to show that the targets were of equal thickness.
This is just incase a cinder block attacks you LOL
Cool test!! Mowing grass today!! So it begins... enjoy the weekend!!
Hey John! I am hoping the rain holds off so I can mow tomorrow afternoon
WHO_TEE_WHO Just got it done!! Moved some stuff with big tractor an came in to grab a drink.
Nice! My dad and I cut down a big walnut tree today. Im getting too old for this hard work stuff. Ha!!!
WHO_TEE_WHO Lol... well enjoy the weekend!!!
You too!
380 is ok for short range people shooting, but not for cinder block holes...
380 is better than no gun, especially close up and to help you escape... but not for a "gun fight" I carry an ankle 380, 7 shots, ... for 'real shooting' I use a .40 -
thanks for saving me the time to do the same thing.
Yup I'm with ya
@@WHOTEEWHO CAN you try on a 2 by 4 stud sometime ????/???? ENjoy your Channel, THAnks
Just watched the Langley Outdoors Academy comparison video. 9mm vs 380.. both calibers penetrated four barriers made up of drywall and 2x4s and in that video the 380 was also handicapped with a barrel at least an inch shorter than that of the 9mm.. plus it's lighter bullet of course...
I looked but couldnt see the bullet come back at ya. Just glad ot didnt hit ya. Im sure it wouldve stung a little but doubt it break the skin coming back from that block
would be more believable with identical guns, and identical targets the first block cracked with first bullet, Poor test Your better then this test.
Just having fun, not a science lab. Thanks for watching!
I don’t know about you but I didn’t buy my .380 to defend myself from cinder blocks 🤦♂️
I carry a Glock 42 as my everyday carry gun and I’m using Hornady 95 JHP +p ammo because it’s small enough to carry and not be seen and I love shooting the gun!
Hornady doesn't make a 102 grain +p..may want to recheck that..Remington makes a 102 grain bjhp..golden saber
@@kevinrichardson8859 typo sorry
I used to carry a Sig P238 in .380 but have since gone back to a S&W 642 in .38 special. It seems to have more stopping power in a small package for concealed carry.
Good comparison of .380 vs 9mm. I didn't think that the .380 would BOUNCE back! But you never know! Lol!
Thanks for sharing!
hey Dan! I didnt think the 380 would bounce back either! I used to carry a snubby .357 hard to beat a revolver
WHO_TEE_WHO Love revolvers! I would bet my life on them!
Mee too. My fav has always been my model 66 7 shot 357
WHO_TEE_WHO Oh yes! The model 66 is a classic!
Another good one who tee....interesting....I carry the Bersa 380.....
Thanks Terry! I have been tempted several times to pick up a Bersa. If i see a good price on one im sure ill pick it up
WHO_TEE_WHO If you haven’t seen him already, check out you tube “icarryone” He has a neat review of the Bersa 380 thunder. Lots other stuff as well
I haven't seen him. I will check it out
Normally these results don’t surprise me much. I figured there would not be a real notable difference. I carry my sig p238 all the time just for convince. Love that little gun. Kinda got me rethinking the viability of it now. Would be really interested to see that test done with same 9mm bullets out of a smaller 9mm along the lines of a shield . Great test.
I was very surprised that they bounced right off the cinderblock! I still dont want to get hit by one thats for sure!
Cinder blocks are made of cement and ash.......hasn't been produced in 50 years. These, are concrete blocks. Nice vid anyways. LOL
Dude so sorry didn't do my research before I posted my comment. You do great videos for Southern man ; )
Thanks for watching Greg
I have a Ruger LCP II and Seecamp in .380 as well as a Colt Defender and a Springfield XDs Mod 2 in .45
I have no use for 9mm
The difference between the .380 and 9mm is about the same difference between the .22lr and the .22 mag. Pretty significant difference. Which is why I carry a 9mm.
I was totally surprised at those results. I assume the 2 380 would at least go thru the block. Neat test, thanks for sharing........
I was surprised too! Thanks maniac!
Mafia used 22lr the most so .380 is way more than needed.
Until a mafia dude shows up in a Carhart coat with two layers of denim underneath. Then you wish you had at least a 9.
Winchester is average quality ammo. Monarch is junk.
I myself carry a FEG PMK 380 and love it.
i am a 380 fan
Why not use the same brand ammo for both??
because I'm poor and just used what I had
Why are the cinder blocks different colors and different shapes?
It would be a better test if the same type blocks and barrel lengths were used.
Carry Both and are both winners in my holsters . Good thing I don’t expect any home intruders or would be attackers to be wearing cinder block. For carry I load up with Hornady Critical defense. For home defense I keep both critical defense and RIP rounds. It is all about that expansion in my minds. I want the intruder or intruders to have maximum damage with least amount of strain on me so if I can take out a 6‘7” tweaker with my tiny 380 that is ideal. Rather than walking around bumping into walls with a getting stuck in close quarters with a 12 gauge or AR15. I live in NYS so even using any hollow point or research ammo on a attacker outside my home even inside runs big risk . Lawyers would demonize me in front of a jury for using such ammunition even tho my life was in jeopardy. It is a blue demoncrat Anti firearm government.
You know if florida is relaxed on the ammo laws? I tried googling it but cant find much about hollow point or research ammo but I just bought my first NP Smith n Weston .380 and wanted to carry hollow points for my house.
You shot downwards with the 9mm and it went through the bottom it didnt even have a chance to hit the back wall
Looks like it mushroomed.(380acp)
Try hand gun caliber through a rifle vs cinderblocks 👍
You got a better chance of hitting something with a high point if you just throw it at them instead of shooting it hoping the noise will scare them off.
Oh I forgot to mention I use the new sign sauer v crown ammo makes a huge difference.
Some good testing as real time results....Good stuff...
Thanks Scott. I didnt think the 380 would bounce back!
Yea, that was uncomfortable for you I would say....
Little bit!
My first reaction when I saw you were shooting at concrete blocks at close range was to cringe…. I learned never to shoot at anything hard, the hard way many years ago. I fired a 7mm at an engine block from about 75 yds…. A piece came back and hit me in the face on my upper cheek below my eye hard enough to draw blood…..
Ive had 30:06 bounce back at me from a 3” piece of steel. Didn’t draw blood, but was suprised!
I indeed do LOVE my HiPoints..... they are indestructible.....yup....and reliable....but...heavy ☺
Yup always been reliable to me
I was surprised the 380 didn't do a little better .
So was i!
An interesting and fun experiment, but I don't see how it has any bearing in a self defense scenario...unless you think you might be attacked by a cinder block.
Great video Adam 👍👍👍
Thanks Kevin! Appreciate that
At least if your assailant is made of double wall cinder block you won't have to worry about overpenetration....which can be a good thing.
shoot +P ammo in 380 always
Use what you can find!!
I hope the shortage ends, and I can go back to 9mm, and .380 acp training without the stockpile depletion horror. I don't think ANYONE wants to be hit by either cartridge.
i love you who tee been sudded for years thanks to you i bought more firearms that rock
Y'all forget {Barrel Length} makes a big difference on a 380 Acp Spectrum 2.5"...Your Hi-Point is 3.5" Muzzle Velocity= Penetration !! Sport
I carry 380 ez use 115 grain in both bullets and then test it?
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I like this guy he is on the same spectrum as the Taurus.
Thanks for watching Nick
I have been shooting a 9mm since I was 5 and now I am 10
What was the grain of the two?
You gotta think about that 380 is meant to bounce around inside too...
What!?
The problema of you guys making video,you have to test with the same size of the gun,of course pocket gun got less power than regular gun because remember the most important is the barel 9 mm is long barel the other one is short.
How much more expensive are 380 bullets compared to 9mm bullets bro?
Normally a good bit more
Well, here's how I look at it if you don't mind. I look at it like this, if a round overpenetrates the intended target, the 380 won't go through the wall and potentially hurt someone on the other side of said wall like a 9mm might. Just my $0.05
This is precisely why I got rid of my 380 decades ago. For personal protection I just don't have any confidence in it. I have been told that a 380 is the equivalent of a 9 mm SHORT. Is that true?
Thats my understanding as well. 380 is just a shorter, weaker 9mm
its a scaled down .45 thats how browning designed it
I'm way late to the comments but you need to shoot the same cinder block with both rounds because all cinder blocks are not equal. The 380 should punch through a cinder block as long as the cinder block isn't a really old cinder block that has hardened more over time.
Looks farther than 7 yards but maybe not. Am super surprised. Ive seen 380s go a foot inside gel blocks using hollow points which arent supposed to go all the way thru but i thought it was impressive the 380 round made it a foot into the gell after going thru 4 shirts and 2 packs of ribs.
Right at 7 yds
Great videos as always! Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching!!!
Thank you
For when cinder blocks attack. 44mag FMJ works mo bettah
Mo bettah for sure
Just as I thought . The 380 is nothing but a 9mm short . Smaller case and less powder load . I could say that the big brick C9 had more wieght and through the round harder . I am not wanting to crack on the C9 today . My C9 is to close to me ! 😉 I would call the 380 a more of a get out of town gun . Like the lonely little 22 . Can you use it ? Well yes . Saying that . You should be retreating while you are using it . Where anying bigger then a 380 . You can stand your ground ok . 380 and smaller . Good backup gun . Larger is a good defence gun . Either way . Better then a pointy stick .
Yup yup. C9 wins again!
Not a fair comparison! The 380ACP was designed by John Browning to be fired from the Colt automatic pistol which, had a 4-1/2" barrel length. Barrel length greatly affects performance. Pocket pistols are piss poor and only good for concealment.
You are right
New time use ball ammo with the .380
Nice comparison!
Thanks for watching Chuck!
Why do people always say " they are basically the same round"?. Because they no nothing about ballistics. The 9mm is superior to the 380, just like a 10mm is superior to the 9mm. Its called a POWER FACTOR using bullet weight and velocity, which the 9mm has over the 380.
Just picked up some monarch ammo from Academy
I carry Taurus Pt938 .380 pistol
Awesome
I'm surprised at the difference between the two.
Me too!!! Didnt think that would happen
I got into it with a guy the other day he was made out of concrete. So I picked up a tractor jumped really high in the air and slammed it on him. Naw really 380 is more fat to use energy for a knock down shock, jolt. 9mm reg just makes holes in stuff. Like driving a nail threw wood long 9mm.
I was thought the 380 wouldve at least cracked the cinder block.... barely scratched it.
Me too! I was surprised bigtime
I bet a .357 sig would go all the way through. Or I would think it would. Nice video.
I am pretty sure a .357 sig would too! Thanks Jeff!
People that carry 380 and 5.7 are asking to be a statistic. Say what you want. I watched a video jist before this that showed a 5.7 not even tear a cinder block apart after 9 rounds.
9mm is always best even against 40 and 450acp
You can just get plus p plus 9mms
the weapon you are shooting .380 from "leaks" ..... that .380 probably is 500 f.p.s. coming out of that weapon....... chrono .380 out of my hipoint at near factory advertised!!!..... my nephew has one of "those things" you are shooting .380 from....he tried to return it (not a joke)..... not touting any brand or weapon just my personal experience....great video ....you always come up with fun (and informative) stuff
Couldnt believe the 380 bounced off the block!!!
WHO_TEE_WHO yup....energy has to go somewhere.....when i was young i shot concrete with a 410 shotgun from up close.....shot came back and hit me in the stomach.....went through my shirt but not my skin....but it looked like i had measles..... I never forgot that little event.....if bullet doesnt penetrate then there is left over energy.....dont shoot steel straight on
WHO_TEE_WHO I will do this experiment with my .380 hipoint and get back to you
WHO_TEE_WHO BTW, i THINK your c9 will fire .380
WHO_TEE_WHO c9 wont cycle though
Should have used identical guns. High point in each hand, hell yeah!
Yeah buddy!