Aight. Seems like I didn't explain my points clear enough and also didn't bring up a few important factors this time My bad. I'll talk about a few important points in this comment, but there's too many aspects to handle just in a RUclips Comment: - Ease of Use: This is by far the most important factor that I didn't touch in the video and is one of the main reasons someone would use pixies. It's not just that pixies beat Aliens or CotC, but rather that they do so extremely easily due to the overspecialization and consistent bulk from resist. You don't need to use your brain when using them to beat CotC, which is very valuable for the new player. - Lategame Methodology: You can tell in the video that a lot of the reasons I brought up are the later parts of the game, which is where lots of my points hold ground. The problem is that pixies fundamentally have higher value in earlier parts of the game (ItF and CotC) and my methodology doesn't reward that as much, meaning that some of the pixies in general (like Bora or Volta) seem undervalued, as they work phenomenally at CotC. Although I did touch on why I didn't see CotC as much of a problem, it sure wasn't enough. A lack of distinction on what I found most valuable made a big difference on how well my points held weight. - The Resist/Warp Immune: These aspects aren't as useful as one might think later on, but are still quite nice for early-midgame players who aren't capable of defending their units properly (lack of units or experience). I also think I failed to bring notable attention to this point in my video, which is my bad again. - Lack of Depth in Argument: I make a lot of assumptions when it comes to arguments for these pixies (Earlygame/CotC rush is less valuable, players can achieve same results with other ubers or Nonuber options, etc) as lots of them are either aspects I assume the player knows or don't value in the first place. However, this does end up creating confusion (and outrage, lmao) as per result of a less strong looking argument. I think I failed to recognize that my audience consists of newer players who would not understand these aspects already and would need to see an argument for or against them first. Which in a sense, is a no brainer, and while I did touch on these lightly, it was simply not to the depth for where it would be understood easily. - Seperating Opinion from Guide: I think one very important thing that I failed to do while releasing this video is make a clear distinction that this is NOT a guide for players, but rather an opinionated take. If any new player assumes that this is a guide and doesn't bring further attention to the pixies, then that's nearing misinformation in a way. While in this video I do assume the player understand the fundamental aspects of pixies and that things I don't being up (for the most part) are simply aspects that I didn't value for the argument. But I think that considering I have made "guides" (like the LR video and Starred UL video), it was a poor decision to not include somewhere at least that this is a full opinion piece. This was definitely my bad, for sure. There are more things worth discussing here, but too many for just one RUclips comment. So I'll leave it as this: Do you guys want a livestream where I clear up points and analyze deeper the values of Pixies to make a more clear argument for them? One big reason why a lot of facts are ommitted here is due to timesakes: I didn't want this video to be an hour long, when in reality I probably did need that time to fully explain everything. Although it won't take away the flaws from the original video, it's probably the best thing to do in order to stop misinformation. Anyways I do appreciate the feedback and although I'm not the biggest fan of dissent, I understand you guys' disappointment with a video as unclear as this one. Sorry. Edit: Title changed, as I REALLY need to note that this is strictly my opinion.
It would be a nice way to round things up at least, I'd say. And maybe a chance for some engagement on people who disagree on certain parts about some of the ubers.
Yeah but this is still complete bullshit, elemental pixies is not the worst banner, who the gurkey Turkey would use TETSUKACHI on revival of origin ☠️ they aren’t supposed to have generalist value, if this is how you rank them then it is flawed, besides, there are much worse banners, like the one that’s literally in the thumbnail, in contrast to elemental pixies, the nekoluga are generalists, and 70% of them are either outclassed or downright garbage, nekoluga is very outdated as an Uber and falls in lategame (which YIU are considering for this video), legaluga may be considered the worst or one of the worst legend rares, only being useful for its immunities and range, Papaluga and nobiluga are just bad, Assiluga and balalalaluga have an at most decent uptime for their ability, which is slow and freeze, with onky their range to really help them, and balaluga’s talents is just the cherry on top. Then there’s shishi and luffy, which are the only good Ubers in the set, compared to the elemental pixies which has bora, mizli, gravi, Volta, and the legend rare lumina. Which are way better at their job. If you need any more explanation you can reply to me in the comments and I’ll list a few details. Once again I do realize this is just an opinion, but it’s a very flawed one including the near misinformation in the video only somewhat salvaged by this comment. Anyways thanks for reading.
While I sorta agree for the most part, I think one thing I disagree on (or rather things you didn't quite cover too much) is their resist. Especially for units like Bora and Mizli, this resist can be pretty helpful. For one, COTC in particular is where the resist is very good. Due to the restrictions of COTC, defending a more 'normal' uber like Akira or Catman is more difficult especially on stages like Skelling. DH ubers still work, but Pixies are generally better in a way that you don't have to strategize too hard in defending them. They don't really rely too much on other units you bring. This is also the case for stages with LD threats and such, where non-tanky ubers can just get juggled to hell if you're not careful, Pixies can tank through them no problem, and since they have low cooldown, you would often have the unit off of cooldown before the previous one dies. I think another thing is the argument that 'these ubers aren't good because non-ubers works well enough' isnt the best argument as, thats kinda the case for most ubers. Most ubers are just there to make things simpler. Ofc you get bonus points if you have a more unique ability, but having an uber that's just a better version of existing non-uber is still great as it lowers the need of actually strategizing and optimizing harder. Which in the end is what a lot of casual players want. Also, in a way, part of why one would roll for Pixies is because it's one of most consistent sets. You want units that specifically are tanky against aliens and can help in cosmos? Pixies will basically guarantee that without having to fear uber RNG. Not much other sets gives you this much of a consistent outcome. but I will say though the newest 3 pixies we got are some of the most forgettable ubers in the game lmaoo
Agree with your take, but I think Yamii isn’t as forgettable as the other two, since he becomes a ranged wave blocker (a niche which has like 5 units in it, and he’s also one of if not the best at it) The other two are definitely forgettable though. Why does Tekachi even exist?
Pixies is a bad made banner, not a bad banner at all, ofc, it sucks as a normal game banner, but that makes sense, cuz u don't roll pixies to get "woah, goofy meta uber, poggers", u roll there cuz u want a banner made to destroy cosmos, or at least cuz u want a decent anti alien and there isn't DH in the rotation or smth like that, they are there just to bring you a counter for that part of the game
I rushed COTC after into the future (just wanted to) and Volta/Aer were invaluable as I had barely any barrier breakers/consistent CC. With time Aer fell off, especially due to restrictions. But Volta is very useful for even UL where you need to consistently control Ursa Major or something.
I'm going to be completely honest with you here, I think this is one of the worst videos you've ever put out. The fact that you're immediately discrediting pixies as a set due to the existence of dark heroes, despite the said banner being filled mainly with specialists and very few generalists (aside from tjack, what else is there? Vigler for the combo?), but also how they're not great generalists overall, despite banners like lugas and dragon emperors struggling to have half of their set not be outclassed by other common units, is telling of how unjustified the pixie hate has been spreading of late throughout the community. As such, I want to go through every single one of your points towards all ubers in the set, and simply explain why I think your methodology is starting to become contradictory and rather ignorant to the metagame as a whole, and specially for the average bc player: -Bora, much like you said is a nuker with great damage output against aliens and only aliens. So in theory, ubers like mekako or warlock manage to nuke those enemies harder, while others like saki and catman are "less restricted in their target traits". However, talking about bora like this is ignoring the full picture. Despite bringing his stats up, you're completely ignoring 3 major factors that differenciate bora from the rest: bulk with resist, cooldown and price. You know how in UL (particularly starred UL), enemies can manage to be quite overbuffed to the point of having great damage output? Well bora can offset this with his excellent anti alien bulk that can let him shred off hits, notably letting him be more efficient against the likes of a pushing Ursamajor, and even if he dies early, he won't have to suffer from a sluggish cooldown like catman or mekako, as his cd is much, much lower than the average, a factor way too important on mixed stages (look at aethur or any great rusher for instance). Bora isn't still amazing in my eyes, but it's odd how you're already ignoring desirable traits on any kind of uber, despite once again, lugas and DE having this issue as their core. -Mizli, the unit that's supposedly unnecessary becuase of seafarer. I'll say, the latter definitely harms the potential of the former, but here I have a different issue: what's your proof her kb, an ability that no other good non uber anti alien has, is completely pointless? Having KB on demand is a huge trait, as it's completely able to shut down meaningful pushes from the enemy. Why aren't you bringing specific stage examples of the unit being outclassed by seafarer in this regard? Not to mention, you once again fail to bring up her bulk and this time range difference from seafarer, which allows her to hit enemies in the same trait much more safely in comparison, once again bringing someone like ursamajor or IM face too. As well, mizli is way more consistent with her procs to boot, so even when I don't think she's much more than "decent", I still feel you're underselling her tremendously by doing a poor analysis. -Aer, well he's pretty bad by himself so I don't have many criticisms here, and his uf has too little value for the darkeye cost, so I agree here. -Volta, where you actually mention his range being able to differenciate him from seafarer, despite not treating mizli in the same fashion. That's already a contradiction with your analysis, but I'll stick to the unit itself for now. Once again tho, there's a general disregard of his ability to handle aliens with higher range than seafarer, with a general consensus of "yeah seaf is just all you need", which holds little value without meaningful proof. Again, what about the consistency of volta? And what about scenarios like 3 star UL or baron hyppoh where he absolutely shreds in spite of seaf existing? -Gravi, where you also bring up his cd and cost thanks to his generalist potential, while also praising him in what he does. So no issues here. Instead, I have to mention the fact that you still have to mention how "this set doesn't have any broken uber" is a factor against them, despite once again having banners like lugas, DE, or even Ggals to an extent in a similar scenario, where none of their best ubers are truly broken. If we're really making that point, every banner aside from almighties and dynamites sucks because only their units manage to be truly broken, and dasli/phonos/balrog are all you need for most of the game, and I consider this illogical. -Yamii, where I originally agreed with you the most. He's unimpressive as an anti alien/aku, but his wave blocking ability is really good, if rare to get usage out of. I also appreciate bringing up an example of where he does well where as octo wouldn't. However, I then remembered that yamii's biggest strength is him enabling other non wave immune units to shine, where as octo can't actually do this consistently. It's not much different than treating yamii as another kind of support, only instead of debuffing, he prevents further harm for your units. What I also find strange tho is mentioning his resist up combo, yet not doing the same for gravi's def up sm, which has a much wider range of applications and includes the best general unit in the set. Still, not much else to say. -Bliza. Calling her one of the worst ubers in the game is extremely ignorant of her actual usability as her pre tf was indeed subpar overall, but was still able to perform well on itf, outbreaks, and decently on cotc. And her tf did indeed fix a lot of her issues, giving her actual bulk that you once again fail to mention, as well as making her a much more competent anti zombie with this change, given she can tank through burrows much more effctively, while also managing to hit cadaver bear with a safety net (housewife is purely reliant on sniping, which isn't always consistent). Also, you bring up big peng Z as a good matchup for her, but did you know she's able to completely stomp baron hyppoh too? The much more relevant baron and where she'd want to be used? Just why are you bringing her "lack of generalist usage" when she's not meant to be used this way??? That's like saying Iron legion sucks as a set due to their lack of generalist usage (also oar has plenty of issues post sol, while truck is lackluster overall). Just because a unit can't do everything doesn't mean they're automaticlaly worthless. -Tetsukachi, an underwhelming tank because of the reasons you brought up. He seriously needs a tf to give him level 1 surge and a general stat boost, that way he'd be equal to gravi. Still, no issues with your argument here. -Luminalia, another pixie tank (sorta) with good generalist stats, yet one where you mention how soap will cover most of what you need without great examples of this case. Once again, it comes off as an arbitrary point. And I fail to understand how someone like lumina, able to tank and weaken enemies, is more valuable than bora (tank + murder enemies) or mizli (apparently outclassed by seafarer without desirable traits). Then you simply confirmed one of my previous points, you're looking at the set from the perspective of wanting a broken uber in the set, yet not only do you downplay on the value of pixies as a whole with arguments that lack any relevant substance or proper evaluation of the ubers themselves, you also ignore the solid consistency of the set because of this exact downplay, despite a banner like lugas having flat out 2 or maybe 3 useful ubers as a whole (no mention of notable stages for your argument, also calling nobiluga underrated is insane) or DE having over half their options be outclassed by other ubers. Speaking of which, why are you considering other ubers into the equation? You still bring up the existence of dark heroes as the overall better counterpart from pixies, yet not only are they different enough where pixies have their own natural value over non uber alternatives, you can just apply this whole mentality to any other set in the game that's not almighties or dynamites. Why would you ever roll for galaxy gals or monster gals when almighties exist? Why would you ever roll on dynamites when you can just get dasli and clear 80% of the game with her? The actual reason is simple: Not everybody can actually get all ubers in the game, let alone all broken ubers. This is a gacha game, a game where players will have widly different experiences because of the ubers they get, where certain units can either be extremely helpful to the player or niche at best due to the other options IN THEIR COLLECTION. The existence of other ubers is never a determining factor for another uber viability unless the player has both exact ubers for the comparison. Otherwise once again, would all uber backliners suck because dasli simply exists, or do you actually disagree? So yeah, given how much you seem to be downplaying pixies, to the point of saying "players aren't able to find good usages for them (which is false, look at gravi relic talents soloing IT40 and greatly helping for IT49, blizana being able to demolish baron hyppoh, or bora helping majorly on glass slippers)", it makes me think you aren't actually evaluating them fairly, since you either can't seem to decide whether or not they should be evaluated for their niche or in a general sense, or you don't apply this same mindset to sets like iron legion or ultra souls. It's probably a matter of differing methodologies, but even so, I severely question your consistency and reasoning behind this take. I highly doubt you'll read this enormous wall text, but to reiterate now: This is easily the worst video you've done, and the worst analysis you've put out.
Wait...so you want to tell me that Pixies, a set with half pretty ok to good units and half bad units is worse than Nekolugas, a set where these days like two are used rarely and all have aged like milk due to bad talents? I don't get it.
He didn't even bother to metion how Gravi managed to bring a completely relevant role to the already super powercrept Relic meta and being extremely good at it. Putting him in the pretty decent tier is criminal. He is at least amazing tier.
@@acatz9462 almost every take this guy has is an L, he put Gigapult in D tier for example. I'm only here cuz someone I know showed me this, told me the conclusion, and it threw me past the line
@acatz9462 This man's favorite SoL subchapter is Cutpurse Coast. You know, the chapter full of boss spam, bookended by a basic yet somehow brutal Alien stage and the most overrated stage in BC history? That's not even getting into plenty of other questionable decisions, like ranking Spacetime Distortion highly despite acknowledging how lazy it is, giving The Scratching Post special treatment over other rehash chapters for no discernable reason and putting Happy Lucky Temple at third place solely because it's memorable.
Appreciate you putting Gravi as best Pixie, but would’ve liked to see more praise. I think he has genuinely become cracked with Relic target since there’s basically zero major weak points towards his melee/ tanker build.
@@XskullDrSkull yeah, gigapult is still amazing but I feel it works better as a LD/support unit that happens to have great bulk, while gravi is more of a straightforward tank
Gravi is the unit i love to use, the concept of spreading guaranteed barrier breaker with wave attack is already overwhelmingly strong. It's also amazing how he only got simple resist/target talents (aside general stats up) and yet it's one of the most appreciated ones.
this video is like saying paipai is ass cuz she only kills reds or how saki is bad cuz she can only hit alien and relic, you can't judge specialists by generalist traits. dasli is bad cuz she has less dps to blacks than musashi. Of course, this video is based on your methodology (or however you spell that), but that doesn't stop me from saying your methodology is kinda doodoo
He brought up their generalist value only to compare them to other specialists. Using examples such as Aphrodite and Catman as Ubers that destroy aliens, but also have value outside of that niche. (Though I disagree with this methodology, as the examples are both the absolute top tiers in terms of Ubers. This is not even mentioning the fact that you typically only roll pixes in the early game for a consistent anti alien)
When you have a whole set that only is good vs aliens and for the most part sucks vs all other traits, it’s a bad set. Especially when dark heroes is just way better.
i think someone already said it but, one doesnt Roll pixies for general use, if you roll pixies is because you want a good anti alien (early - mid game)
@@kingauther7812 dark heroes can be good, and pixies can be fine as well, the existance of a "better" option doesn't invalidate another option. Bora and gravi singlehandedly shut down most alien stages.
As someone with a lvl 60 seafarer if you get his freeze talent maxed out it will do WAY better than Volta plus mitter saw being 50 +70 is so unrealistic even for someone like chillhola also catellite / jet pack have completely different roles than most pixies and yet they still do a better job
@@patrycjasznabowicz literally how talents are available pretty early and rover is even earlier the only exception is jet pack being late game and saw since you need luck getting him and even with that they all have different roles from the pixies except for seafarer also canned never mentioned boosted units
@@rainbowwatcher423 if we hypothetically... talk about voli in general. Voli (1st form) has 50% to freeze aliens for 3 seconds. 25-16 seconds recharge more range. and more speed. cons: somewhat slow attack rate (6 seconds) less dps than seafarer. well i mean the point is, you can just use both on alien stages.
yeah I get he wants to say something new but nekolugas are obviously still worse lol. like the lugas are borderline unusable and gimmicky like bro just wants to say a new opinion for the sake of being different
That's... A hot take if I've ever seen one before... I'm literally the biggest Lumina hater I know and even I think the pixies are still not the worst set, and I do have some criticisms. Specifically, I think you are underrating Gravi, Volta and Aer, and severely underrating Yamii. -Even before talents, Gravi was a really good wave unit, that is actually on par with units like cradle. giving him the relic resist expands his usage massively in late game, while also keeping his wave capabilities AND keeping them for those late game usages. -In Volta's case, I think that beside the "outclassed by sanzo"-ish arguments that are quite common throughout the video (which dismiss the potential usage and value the "outclassed" unit could generally net you in a stage in any situation), you are underestimating the utility of an immediate, none-chance determinant CC against aliens (especially in 3 star UL), while also having warp immune and barrier breaker as a bonus. I cant put the specifics of how that benefits him into words that easily, but even when im 25k User Rank deep into the game, I have found usages for him (over seafarer too) from time to time -Aer was violated here. I have nothing more to say other than the fact that you put her on the same level as Blizanna on the tierlist is nothing short of an error of judgement, at least in my opinion. -Yamii simply existing as a unit is bringing so much to the table. Being the cheapest ranged wave blocker that is actually usable, while also being the most easily accessible one (due to him not being tied to a seasonal event or a collab), brings the ranged wave blocker meta to so many people who otherwise were not able to get access to Tokyo Miku or Eva-00. It also helps that having the unique trait of resisting aku (while also having the small bonus of being a weaken unit) gives him more relevancy and viability in late game stages that might mix wave enemies and aku enemies. His recharge is also better than the other ranged wave blockers, and he can really come in handy when the (honestly quite overrated) standard wave immune attackers like dancer or mushroom dont work or arent enough to withstand the push of the wave enemies combined with other threats in the stage. Like, I agree that pixies arent really the best set around, but they most CERTAINLY are not worse than Tales of The "4500$ Pillars of Doing Nothing At All and Dying In One Hit" Nekolugas
You’re not listening. For one, he put bora in b tier, which means that he thinks it’s a decent unit. For two, he’s saying that bora is outclassed EVEN WHEN COMPARING TO OTHER ANTI ALIEN NUKERS
@@kpopnimation bora is more cost-effective for those stats. He ses bora is bad because he's only good against alien when all these other nukers target both alien and _____. We're mad because he is judging bora by his General preformence hence the joke 🤯
The methodology for this is annoying in that when people draw on elemental pixies, they generally dont have the resources to pull specific ubers from specific events (ie: mekako or a LEGEND RARE) due to them being in early/mid game. Thus, theyd roll pixies to at least get some kind of anti alien uber for whatever itf or cotc boss theyre on. And while outclassed, at least the cc ones do a decent job of working WITH the units that “outclass” it. Look at volta and seafarer, voltas guaranteed freeze makes it way easier for seafarers to stack up due to their non guaranteed chance. It also helps with units that outrange or kb seafarer before it can hit, like super cosmic cyclone. What im saying is that i understand what you’re saying, but your methodology seems to be odd
Also uhh Pixies are just better anti aliens than the "specific pull uber rares" about 90% of the time, even in endgame lmao. And this is from someone who doesn't really like pixies
Why is bro glazing lugas 😭 only a third of them are “usable,” never cook again. Most pixies are actually good throughout many relevant parts of game progression
Lugas is #1 banner, I perma roll it every time it comes around. No I dont care what anyone has to say. I WILL KEEP ROLLING IT UNTIL THEY ARE ALL MINE!!!
I think your ranking of the pixies is not really fair to them, the pixies might not be the best set in the game, but that’s not why people roll them. I started cats of the cosmos without a good anti alien over and rolled on pixies to help and got Bora, their true form was a great help especially on restriction stages. I would say that other Ubers do outclass the pixies, but they provide good value for early game players. Comparing them to soap cat seems redundant to me, as the requirement for soap is so much later in the game than the pixies stop having a lot of value. It’s clear that if you can unlock soap you have far outgrown the utility of the pixies (expect for maybe gravi whose anti relic is fairly good late game). I think you’ve forgotten what it’s like in the early game, which makes sense as it was likely a long time ago you did cotc or itf without knowing the meta and best units. Just because something isn’t good late game doesn’t mean it’s useless. Just because the pixies are outclassed by other units or quite endgame units like soap doesn’t mean they are useless. They do fall off beyond a certain point but I think they are a great resources for new players or ones who don’t have good anti alien Ubers.
I dislike the premise of this video - you say that this banner is the worst, and for each uber rare, you say it's not the best at its role. A unit doesn't have to be the best to be valuable, and this banner also tends to carry people through ItF and CotC.
Nekoluga banner has the worst units in the game that only have niche usages but that's okay cuz it has one pretty good unit (that's still really situational) and one decent unit :)
I mean togeluga, tecoluga as well as most of the other lugas would gain less value over time because their kit is not suitable for the role they are designed for being backliners, often super backliners. Ponos just refuses to give them any immunities or really any CC option that has good uptime as well as procs chance to keep them in current meta leaving them as glass cannon that don't really shot
luffalan also heavily struggles in this meta too, lugas are super outdated as ubers. He’s too slow, has really awful survivability having literally just 1 knockback, the range is good and sure the nuke damage is nice but who even cares when he’s only good in stages with few peons which are very irrelevant and aren’t hard, I think he might do something against yulala but idk probably not still
it doesn't really make sense to compare the pixies to other anti alien specialists and use that to detract from the banner as a whole. the elemental pixies banner is meant for players who need an easily accessible answer to aliens and starred aliens: pulling on other banners like dark heroes still runs the risk of receiving ubers without anti-alien capabilities or only reach that state in their true forms, which detracts from their accessibility knowing that ITF is meant to directly follow the EOC chapters the definitive worst standard banner is the nekolugas, given how highly saturated it is with mediocre crowd controllers that fail to contribute meaningfully, but that's the boring answer
Yeah that's why they have pretty spammable and mid cost first form. Ponos just wanted them to be accessible on wide majority of restrictions so that new as well as (at that time when cotc came to the game) experienced players could have fairly balanced challenge.
yeah lugas are basically unusable while the pixies at least CAN do something bro just wants to say a different opinion because saying luga would make the video less interesting
@@anglecringe6917 yeah when you’re rolling Lugas you have like 3 Ubers that are usable while every pixie can at least be pretty good which makes it much less of a gamble
i think that people that watch ranking/tierlist are people that just started in the game (some of them) and want to see how good the units they got are, but they should know that most of these youtubers rank on late game, NOT EARLY GAME, because pixies(for me) are the best early into the future Ubers you can roll. (SOME not every pixie is good) Why does bro talk like an IGN journalist
Even going off late game, this video is memably bad. Multiple pixies (Bora, Yamii, Lumina, and especially Gravi after the nedt update gives him target relic) are still extremely good. And pretty much every Pixie except Aer and Tekachi have a good amount of use, all being better than the lower half of Lugas at all points in the gane
@@meinman7591 i think most of the rankings that i have seen from many people are generally bad, they idk instead of saying how well they perform and how much and what it can do, they just say "meh outclassed." and move on without really giving any merit to the uber that isnt in the meta, i could be wrong but... most of them rank like that, not everyone
@@SpiceBushYisang2 Lemme guess, this guy, Xskull, and maybe Siluman? I don't do that, nor do the people on bc forums, well some of us. The only time we take out the outclassed card is something like Thundia when Courier exists, a non uber that does as well or better and can be gotten either before or at a similar time to the uber, like UT anti relics would pretty much only be gotten at the very end of UL
@@meinman7591 well, on the ranking parts i was just joking about it, but im aware that in the forums thats not really done, but anyways thanks for having the time to answer,
As someone who collected the pixies all of them because of looks I'm aware some have flaws but I still will use Luminala Gigavolta Bazibastra and Yaminoir.
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I think you neglect to mention that Gigavolta works well _WITH_ Seafarer, as often they allow your Seafarers to close the gap on enemies they usually can't reach easily, and are also naturally warp immune (Seafarer needs NP investment), which is good to keep a consistent freeze uptime. Another great thing about gigavolta is how reliable they are, having a 100% freeze, and their speed often allows them to reach a backliner after you breach the enemy peons (especially if they were frozen or dead when they were knockbacked) or make it back to the frontline swiftly once their significant effective HP against aliens gets depleted. Blazibastra, while "replaceable", has a different appeal to me, which is role compression and cost efficiency. The extra value they provide doesn't come in the form of LD sniping, bonus CC, or anything like that; it's about the good cooldown and low-ish cost, plus the fact that unlike other alien nukers, they have barrier breaker themselves, needing no support in order to land their first strike on an enemy with a barrier. They are very effective on one row only, 1200c, and other CotC restriction stages. Other than that, I generally agree, mostly on the fact that DH is a better banner for earlygame players anyway, since they get Ubers they can use outside of pure alien stages, which is important for them having fewer options in their collection. I would still consider the lugas a little worse overall, though.
Some of these points feel a bit questionable, but even though you said Gravi was the best pixie, you really undersold him. His stats are kinda crazy when leveled, especially now that he has talents, and he can single-handedly take out IT30 and 40. I feel like that's at least an S tier (though I'd put him at SS because of the sheer amount of usage I get from him)
6:44 Bora Doesn't have the best damage or range for alien Nuking because she has utility: high effective hp, warp immune, guaranteed barrier breaker, and good mobility. Honestly, i think you're really undermining their specialist power. Not every uber needs to be useful outside their niche. Unlike the nekolugas, there is very much a reason to pull for this banner, and that's anti alien. Most if not all the nekolugas are generalists with questionable and replaceable performance (save for 2 exceptions) , still however more replaceable than the pixies' anti alien abilities. The lugas are more inclined towards bad units, while the pixies are split in half, which is why i wouldn't consider them the worst
I feel like you glazed Luga way too hard. What make most of them useless, it just not their low health and high cooldown. It because a lot their abilities just doesn't do a lot. While they do target every single trait, there rarely a level where every single enemy is dangerous. Let say that a stage spam red bore and Nimmy bore, you only really need to deal with one of those trait. With red bore i can bring Ice Cat and Nimmy with Volta. As freezing either one of them reduce the pushing power so much, you don't really need to worry about other. You can also just bring two of them to complete destroy the stage. There really no reason to bring most of the Luga that focus CC in this stage as their debuff completely outclass by any other uber. Luga also really only work in stage that push slowly, it that stage push extremely fast, they will hit the enemy once then few second later they died.
@@kang2448Tecoluga is really good, Asiluga is good, Balaluga is good, Nekoluga is good but only with UT so it kinda doesn’t count, Kaoluga is decent, Togeluga is decent, Kubiluga is decent, Furiluga is decent, Nobiluga is alright… and Papaluga is bad
@@kang2448 Kubiluga is a good anti metal, who fulfills a very unique role as an anti metal, which is being 100% consistent killing all low hp metals on the field (which is most metals). Furiluga is just an amazing shield piercer and can be used almost anywhere for shield piercings. Kaoluga has decent damage at high range and a strong mini surge fit high bonus damage, and has a chance to create an unstoppable knockback surge wall. I think everyone knows why Shishi is decent. And Ultralan is good because his kb freeze pairs really well, and his ultratalebts give him good survivability.
I don’t care if the pixies are bad or not, they destroy the alien trait and they’re essential when you’re in the COTC phase of the game. Character wise, the pixies are my favourite characters in the game, especially Luminalia.
(i already said this on the community post but ill just say it here too) I can respect having a hot take but you just make terrible points and blatant contradictions throughout the entire thing. Why try and say bora is a bad generalist and then go on to comparing him to other specialists like saki, aphrodite, and catman? And then you try and make it seem like the banner having specialists is bad but you then go on to glaze those same units like mad doctor klay and saki who are literally hyper specialized into their traits. You also give thunder jack the benefit of the doubt when it comes to him getting a good true form, but the same consideration isnt given for tetsukachi, which is somewhat understandable considering his current state, however its not something to completely ignore. I would also like to state how there is very little arguments to make for nekoluga not being the worst banner, the only uber from that set who even sees any form of widespread praise is lufalan (and maybe shishilan, but even as the 2nd best uber in the set, that sadly feels like a stretch to me), the rest of the nekolugas either have a lot, or too many weaknesses that outweigh the positives they bring when using them, or theyre not even good at all (like half of the set). The thing that also showed to me you have some clear bias is that you say papaluga>blizarena... dont even get me started with trying to say papaluga is good at anything. This is all without mentioning you vastly underestimate every uber from the pixies for no reason, even the ones you consider mediocre: yamii is literally groundbreaking in his niche of a ranged waveblocker as its one of the smallest ones we currently have, bora may not be the best generalist, but with his strengthen talent maxed out he has one of, if not the highest effective dps against aliens, lumina is the best alien staller with 1.9m hp against aliens with her 100% weaken uptime, and gravi is not only the best relic tank in the game and a decent alien tank, but he also carries good dps and generalist stats. I mightve yapped too much but your recent video is just not a good one.
well yami is (arguably) the best ranged wave blocker, and gravi is not only already pretty good, he's gonna get anti-relic talents as well.Plus they are just better generalists since they are cheaper and won't get one-shotted by enemy doge-dark breathing too hard. So lugas are the worst banner by a mile, saying the pixies are somehow worse than this is just baffling. Oh yeah, don't forget that legeluga happens to be the worst legend rare as well. Not that lumina is amazing or something, at least she's got the niche of being the ultra-mega alien counter.
i mean, ive also gotten a ton of usage out of lumina with her very high health and good dps, pairing her with other tanky rushers works super well to brute force rush some stages
S.Alien gimmick vs. "Whatever tf you would consider the lugas". Fortunately, as time goes on, sets that originally started as one tricks like the pixies have started becoming more flexible, Yamii being debatably the best wave blocker, and Gravi just being really good now is a great example.
@@lianneroban9906If even Luminalia can’t stand those ultra boosted aliens, that means no unit in the game can tank them due to her godlike tanking of 3 million HP. That’s when you have to crowd control those lethal aliens.
i am agree with statement that "pixie is worst regular banner" because most of them are too overspecialized and lack of generalist capability which might doom them on mixed stages, a common occurrence in late game. it is basically banner for short-term progression (cotc cheat button). but we do not tolerate blizana slander here. the fuck you mean she is worst pixie, even worse than papaluga. you keep yapping about utility this and utility that but fail to see her value. her point is not being MVP unit who singlehandly beat the stages for you. she is safety net unit. she has bulkiness, consistency, and piercing attack. not many anti-alien/zombie units have that many features, even among ubers. when your defense crumble, she will be the one hold your frontline and buy you time to recover. when your main CC has poor accuracy and/or consistency, she will build the foundation for you. she won't be up there among 'top' pixies, but she is definitely not bottom tier material. there are other pixies who get undeserved treatment like bora, volta, and even luminalia. but it seems everyone already share same disagreement with me. it's overall good video. but you really don't need to undervalue them just to make your point stronger
I was shaking when my ears had to suffer such torture, blizana is so underrated. I hate how the BC community is either ''lets find the good in underappreciated units'' or ''its not kasli so its F''
aint no way he said that he would rather have papaluga than blizana, tf is papaluga gonna do, his point is that papa is an alright anti-surge attacker in a pinch. bruh if you are this starved for anti-surge, no way you're protecting papaluga with meatshields, his paper thin ass is dying in 3 seconds lmao, then you have to wait for an eon to get him back. At least blizana counters zollows fine
as someone who absolutely despises zombies, even though i have a few anti-zombie ubers already, i'm still considering getting Bliza, a bulky mid-ranger with omni-strike, z-killer and toxic immune is already good enough for me to consider adding her to anti-zombie lineups, whereas i have no idea if i'll even use someone like Papaluga anywhere ever if i get him besides, Blizarena's design is peak
Yeah that still doesn’t convince me. I rather have outclassed units than units that basically do nothing and die. At least you can get another Pixie when it dies, since their cooldowns are so short.
i dont like the "outclassed" arguments on ubers, sure there are some units that do a "better" job, but i mean that doesnt mean you CANT USE those ubers with the units that outclassed them, and make a good combo.
I get that they’re bad, but no way are they worse than the lugas. The lugas has debatably like 2-3 good Ubers with the rest being horrid. At least this set has a few good Ubers
never cook again you burnt my house down and i have to live in a homeless shelter, gravolodon is so much better then "pretty decent tier", he has literally carried me through the ENTIRE game, i have him level 50+2, I would never put that kind of effort into any other uber, not even dasli, he is in literally almost every stage lineup i have specifically because of his crazy wave damage, health, and cost, i would let him smash me with his big hard rock any day
No, they do what they do and are simply outclassed. That doesn’t make the actually decent ones bad, they’re just outclassed, yes by dark heroes who predate them, but also by the more powercreeped units who came after them. The banner isn’t bad, at most it’s underwhelming, and that mostly is because there isn’t a game breaking uber unlike most sets and that’s fine, not every banner needs to have one just because every other one does, and even if it doesn’t that doesn’t make the banner bad, just, like I said, underwhelming.
Ok, this is a very strange opinion, you're saying this is worse than the nekolugas, a banner that has units that get 1-shot instantly by almost every enemy? (They're still really good tho) but the elemental pixies is just not the worst banner and your opinion isnt right...
A lot of people already said a lot to refute your points, so I'll just leave my example here: with enough investment and right setup, bora can delete puffsley from HT F47. I think an uber is as good as the stages it can make easier and trivializing one of the hardest stages in the game makes bora very good
isnt the one of the hardest stage anymore but it is a common struggle point so an uber that can delete it is pretty solid, Bora also carries ahjillo highlands
@@kingauther7812 On the opposite, if most luga can do is subpar CC support then are they not garbage in the first place? The only Luga that have strong place in the meta is Luffalan, with Asiluga and Balaluga being light support, and the rest ranges from forgettable to downright awful.
You are underrating blizana and calling her worse tha papluga is just wrong. As she can be useful against zombies because of very high health in true form, notably zapy and big pen z
The main problem with the nekolugas is that it has one of the best nukers in the game (Luffalan) and it has one of the worst units in the game (Papaluga) The nekolugas banner is pretty inconsistent, making it generally a total gamble to get Tecoluga or the other mid units there
Nekoluga is still a worse banner and half of these should be moved up one tier. The nekolugas have way worse average quality. Papaluga and Nobiluga are consistently ranked as some of the worse Ubers. Kubilan has no use and Assassinlan’s slow isn’t that useful anyways and gets outclassed directly by another Uber in the same set meaning Assassinlan actively ends up dragging down the set. Nekoluga is just a below average Uber that no one uses. One of the main themes of the Nekolugas is having extremely low health (except shishilan). Balaluga can actually be pretty good in some circumstances and is definitely the third best Uber. You have a chance of getting two good Ubers out of 10 so the chances aren’t good. Also the legend rare is bad even by Uber standards. You said they’re outclassed by dark heroes but for some reason dark heroes seems to never show up. Also Bora is a better anti alien than any dark heroes I have (I don’t have cat man or mekako) Elemental Pixies is actually better dark heroes early to mid game I would argue. Volta is really helpful for the last 2 into the future bosses. Bora demolishes most aliens because of its insane dps. In souptastas video you can see that bora can solo 95% of itf stages. Mizli is really overhated but she is kind of like assassinlan where she is overshadowed by Volta which doesn’t have her problems. Most of the set is above average which can’t be said for the Nekolugas. Overall Elemental Pixies is great for early to mid game and although it falls off hard during late game i still wouldn’t say it’s as bad as the Nekolugas.
I'm gonna focus on one point in your comment being your take on Asiluga. The other stuff I really don't care about. Asiluga is actually an insanely good uber that essentially mimics Cyberpunk that removes the blindspot. While this makes him not stackable (not like you're gonna get multiple of him with 324 second recharge). He can pair up with Cyberpunk extremely effectively thanks to him effectively boosting Cyberpunk alongside covering his main weakness. Asiluga has a slow up medium combo with Gross Cat that when combined with Cyberpunk can achieve a near perma slow effect on the enemies miles away from any attacks effectively making the two one of the strongest forms of crowd control in the game. Asiluga having no blindspot means he also covers for Cyberpunk being a powerful crutch if enemies slip past Cyberpunk. Talents also give him neat benefits like 100% survive, extra slow duration, and RNG dodge. I'd overall call Asiluga the second best Luga by a large margin even above other lugas like Shishilan and Balaluga. Shishilan just isn't favoured in the endgame environment thanks to the game loving to exploit his high knockback count weakness making him easily juggled alongside a sluggish attack rate, slow speed, and long foreswing making it extremely hard for him to get proper nuke damage off especially when mobility is so key. Balaluga while having a stronger status effect with freeze on paper suffers from things like longer attack rate, shorter duration on the freeze if you consider Asiluga's slow talents, not pairing with Cyberpunk as effectively, and talents boosting the wrong status effect on Balaluga being the less impactful weaken alongside only giving him 50% survive chance for some ungodly reason (Balaluga was robbed smh).
@@Flont40 the uptime difference is minimal in their true forms and piccolan has freeze and weaken which is much better. This makes up for the small uptime advantage that assassinlan has.
@@MilesNuggetBiggestFan You neglect to mention the insane combo Asiluga has that boosts not only his slow uptime, but other slow uptimes as well which includes Cyberpunk that he already pairs up with, and just how much Asiluga enhances Cyberpunk who is one of the best units in the game.
Bora 'not doing anything else' besides Alien nuking when he has about the same effective health vs Aliens as fucking Pai-Pai Z against reds is honestly just kinda comical.
-gravi is an amazing anti relic and is way higher than “just decent” -just because an uber is replaceable doesn’t mean it’s bad, pixies can still get lots of value and make things easier -pixies is a very consistent set for anti alien -people don’t roll pixies for an “x factor,” they roll it to get through itf early and easier for abaha and cotc. you missed the point of the set and are looking at it from a late game/end game perspective -gravi is kind of like an x factor with his new anti relic talents -pixie alien resist is VERY useful due to how many backliners aliens have, also warp resist and bbreak. DH lacks both -Nekolugas are worse than pixies. Pixies have value in clearing aliens. most of the lugas are horrible generalists or horrible specialists. -The average pixie will be worth more than a luga due to early game usage while some lugas are completely irredemable. -most general support lugas are just as replaceable as pixies, even the “better” lugas. -would you rather roll on pixies or lugas for early game? peon clear is harder to come by earlier and early stage design is super spammy so luffy isn’t great, and toge has terrible health 2nd form and alien backliners juggle him in true form. Meanwhile pixies can make aliens easier and a lot more of them are usable. -no matter what, owning a pixie will ALWAYS make an alien stage easier even if they are replaceable. -everyone has different experience, playstyles and approaches when playing this game so not all alien stages are free. -bora is amazing for early, mid and even some late game stages. having mizli/volta is always more preferable than just having seafarer/psycho. aer is partially redeemed through his ultra form, gravi is amazing, yamii is a great wave blocker since octopus just gets shredded on many stages, bliza has some niches like zollows & super hippo, and tekachi can be redeemed through his true form.
I really hate talking about ubers It’s very repetitive at this point and it’s all talking about the meta. I personally think all ubers are good except for the generally actually terrible ubers like bliza and papaluga. It’s become really monotonous and once more, people only focus on the “This is really good” or “This one worse than this so it’s useless”. For example, Bora is great and is really good at nuking aliens but then there’s Aphrodite but Bora still has a lot of value basically turning aliens into a red mist without really much other support needed. Every uber has some way you can use them in the end game as pixies being really good in Ajillo Highlands, a pretty commonly difficult stage. Sure this stage can be done with soap, jetpack and seafarer, pixies can still provide extreme help here like Bora can absolutely nuke this stage, Voli helps with the crowd control, Gravi is an anti wave which is kinda whats necessary here, Mizili can push all of the aliens back a lot and etc etc. There’s a lot of other niche help other ubers can provide in other stages like you can use Papaluga who is once again terrible to counter heaven’s oasis, sure this isn’t late game but still is something you can do I guess. My point is just meta really isn’t the only thing that matters since not everyone better ubers and people like different things.
I really think that Yamii is better than at least half of the Ubers in the game, I'd say around 70th percentile. I think being a ranged wave blocker should already get you to past the 60th percentile, since it's a hard-to-replace ability, meanwhile many Ubers are replaceable. I also think Tetsukachi is pretty usable for early game before you get access to Soap and Jetpack. Similarly Lumina is extremely strong before you get those Alien meatshields. Gravi too, plus is great against Relics About the Pixies VS Nekolugas debate, considering how I'm basically moving Yamii and Gravi to A and Tetsukachi to C, I think that it is more often a good decision to roll Pixies, especially because you're only rolling if you need anti-aliens. Yes, Dark Heroes kinda outclasses it, but Guaranteed is sometimes only showing up on Pixies but not Dark Heroes. Also, the Nekolugas have more completely useless units, rather than just really bad. Blizana and Aer can always at the very least be Barrier Breakers especially in restriction stages and Mizli can be useful in... very rare circumstances. Meanwhile Papaluga. And Nekoluga and Nobiluga are arguably just as strong in a vacuum, but are easily replaceable with Sniper (albeit Sniper is kinda rare too) and Mina.
You gotta be joking first the tier lists now this. Gravi even gets incredibly strong relic targets in his new talents amd no mention whatsoever. Your opinions are just biased af
Mizli is my favorite Uber (she was my first and she’s awesome like you said). I agree with your breakdown of her but her being awesome means she’s the best pixie by far, D tier but awesome should CLEARLY be above S tier
5:18 This can be applied to EVERY SINGLE UNIT that only targets some traits, by that logic Nekoluga is better than Mizli because he can target all the traits. The later you get in the game, the less you use generalist ubers because unless they're like Mitama or Chronos they won't be good enough or at least perform much worse than specialist ubers. This video aint it
For me, the pixies are very helpful. I’m not good at battle cats and being cheap Ubers with fast cooldown is really good for me XD they have really helped me with CotC. I’m not skilled enough to use the Lugas. And I’ve been playing for 8 years. I think the pixies are really amazing for the average player.
Ok so, I have some thoughts on this that may help in some way (or may not.) I do not have all pixies, but I can assure most that Juice mentioned here, for example, the use of Soap, Seafarer, and Psychocat are easier to use/get, but we can also mention the fact of pixies being somewhat of support for these units. What I want to say is, that pixies might be good. Let's say, for example, that we use Seafarer, and there are some enemies that have a longer range or that maybe are stronger, and possibly we could use Volta for this, and try a permafreeze. (If there is one, that is.) We can also mention the possible bulky/tanky enemies that may spawn, so we could use Bora to nuke them adding the freeze, making stages somewhat easier. Now, with Gravo having both alien and relic targets, he somewhat works as a swarm cleaner as for the lvl 4 wave, which is very useful. Aside from this, we have Mizli (and her cursed syndrome) that in very rare cases, push back enemies if these came to close to the base. (Yes, we all know that our ms will die to the backliners. This applies if our push was destroyed or if we ran out of money to keep spamming.) Lumina, dosen't have much, just her 1.4 mil hp against aliens and the weaken, and Yamii with his double target, but that isn't much in the end. Still, as Juice mentioned, these units get replaced in the future, and so, instead of main attackers, they could become support units. (Aside from Aer, Bliz, and Tetsu that are straight up bad.) Just for short, pixies have somewhat bad stats and aspects, but instead of using them as our only attackers, we can use them as supports. Just that. (Any other opinions are welcome!!!!)
@@Dart-s7hThey're not terrible just completely irrelevant and not worth the Catfood. Only good one is Gravolodon with max talents. All the others combined including Lumina are worse than Lufalan.
@@basedcringe9000 Your talking about general use right? Because ofc they aren't as good as Luffylan. Thats like selling your cat bc it can't fight a dog. Your right, most of the time there irrelevant since only so many stages can have aliens. However... Can't that logic be applied towards every specialist. Windys Irrelevant most of the time, so is Idi since you can just use awaken Bahamat against anything thats not relic. Sanzo is irrelevant since not every stage has a floating enemy. You get me? You'd only role for pixies if you need anti alien stuff. It seems like you don't need the pixies as much as other ppl
@Dart-s7h Nah my argument is they're wildly less useful than what first appearances suggest. Lufalan breaks some stages where even the best Fest Ubers are worthless in, if he's not directly countered with peon spam and/or piercing damage he's just completely invalidating stage design and works even against Traitless. Thus making him better than all of them combined. Gravi was saved by Ponos from their combined fate by making him relevant in UL which isn't baby mode like ItF and CotC. If you're not tracking to get Gravi you're literally flushing 1500 cat food down the toilet because the others including Lumina were all powercrep by stage design in the Late Game.
I feel something that needs to be sold is that Pixies is one of if not the best banner to pull early gsme while Lugas only 1 is realy viable early on even later most pixies still demolish aliens while lugas inly really one luga shines late game being luffy
As the elemental pixies strongest soldier (i mean look at my pfp), yeahhhh they're rough. I'll admit even I stopped rolling them after i secured Volta and Bora. Hopefully some more care into talents and ultra forms will help eventually
I am willing to defend volta to my grave though, yes he does have overlap with seafarer, but like, dalisan has overlap with sanzo, and it doesn't make him worthless, it just makes the two of them together incredible at fully shutting down angels. Same with seafarer and volta, together they entirely shut down aliens, and volta does just enough consistent damage to clear out clusters of peons too. Yes he's not mandatory but he really helpful if you got him
@@SunshineCo225I do really like volta since he carried me through most of COTC, but I think the biggest difference in the comparison is that there just aren’t a lot of super threatening aliens that he’s good against that aren’t also good matchups for seafarer past COTC. Whereas daliasan besides his generalist value, has a kit that actively covers matchups that sanzo can’t like winged pigge, sleipnir, etc. Besides Gravi and Yamii since their niches aren’t restricted solely to alien, there just hasn’t been many alien stages where pixies would be super effective. Most of the pixies good matchups are against melee/pusher enemies, which usually just aren’t super threatening after COTC aside from boosted star peng, but there are only a few stages with them after COTC and they usually have non alien backliners that immediately shred through pixies low base hp.
@@benji5320 I do definitely agree and I do get the idea that late game aliens are kinda solved, but I feel like it's undervalued how much they matter. You have COTC yes, but you also have up to three crown SOL, which is a lot of work, and Volta/Bora/Gravi make getting through more consistent, and they can basically make honey trap and puffer planet free. Yes they're already not hard advants but they unlock a solid underrated anti alien, and one of the only 4 crown wave blockers. Plus not to mention zombie invasions that aren't mandatory but can be a nightmare without solid CC. And I feel like it's just worth noting their consistency for a chunk of the game, when the nekolugas have units that actually won't do shit for you anywhere, like papa. I still don't think they're the best banner once you get the higher value units, but I feel like Volta and some others are good enough to be applicable to game progression without feeling like I have to gamble for the more optimal ones like say, mad doctor klay. But that's my two cents.
Ah yes Pixies: Hyperspecialized Gives middling Uber Rares at worse Has notable specialists for endgame traits is worse than: Nekolugas Exclusively consists of generalists Is 2/3rds bad units Contains the worst non-collab/seasonal Uber Rare because pixies are hyperspecialized and there are non-uber units with the same abilities sense
*Enter the I'm in the thick of It everybody knows True Form* *"Tekakutuchi" [Uber Rare]* Usually, you find it accidentally stub your toe and cause slight bleeding on a rock. it's called Tekachi TF but you require a mildly expensive stuff.. like Epic fruit Seed. Tekakutuchi TF recieves a immense HP boost of 40%, ATK increases by 20%, range gets increased by 30, aand with a small increase of omnistrike range along with +10% dodge increase The complete stats on moldy cheese synergy Tekakutuchi TF are really similar to Level 50 evolved form
Like the only lugas that are worth are Lufalan, Shishilan, and Assassilan (Assassilan catcombo is insane) Pixies are better ubers on average for sure Bora is pretty decent and while there are debatably better anti aliens he has a really fast recharge and still among the best anti aliens Volta got robbed with talents Mizli has been helped a ton by lategame aliens not being snipers and her being able to properly bully them. Yamii and Gravi are pretty relevant units in their own rights as the former is a cracked wave shield and the latter is super good at its job as a cats in the cradle type tanker Aer has a decent UF but you definitely undersold it a bit, should be in the tier volta is Blizzana is a meme Still waiting on mr block pixie to get tf though because he needs it Considering there are only 3 lugas that are worth anything that is pretty good, you definitely undersold a lot of them
The pixies work amazingly in CotC which may be the most annoying stage of the game. Also imo their value comes more from barrier breaking than their actual abilities, since you dont have many good BB options in the game. I wouldnt really use a pixie in the later stages of the game but not like you would use any luga either.
Coming from someone who disagrees with this video a lot, Pixies value doesn't come from their barrier breaker lol. Kitty of Liberty exists and makes every barrier in the game irrelevant.
@@Flont40 a player in cotc will not have every single super rare, will have very few true forms, there are restriction stages in cotc where super rares arent allowed or you have to use fewer slots which means you would want a cat that can both break barriers and have some other abilities. Also imo just because there is a super rare that can do the same thing doesnt mean the ability is useless. You wouldnt say Mitama is bad because "just use cyberpunk he can also near perma slow"
@@suni420 Both Mitama and Cyberpunk are very different in how they slow things. Cyberpunk has a stackable slow where he slows things from miles away in exchange for fragility if the enemies get in his blindspot. Mitama is way more straightforward providing an amazing slow cc with insane uptime right then and there while having amazing survivability that makes keeping her alive a breeze. Both are clearly different in how they slow things and aren't comparable. Now then even without Kitty of Liberty, there are still multiple ways to easily deal with barriers. Loincloth Cat, Li'l Macho Legs, and Space Cat true form are accessible by COTC and easily deal with barriers too. Also apart from ultra baa baa and Youcan, no aliens have a barrier that can't be broken through just sheer high damage from Can Can or Awakened Bahamut as well which makes barrier breaking as a whole even more redundant. Not saying the barrier breaking on pixies is useless since it's a nice bonus and is extra good on Gravolodon and Aer thanks to their pierce, but to say it's where their value comes from is a flat out lie. The reason I call this ability redundant is not only due to the existence of Kitty Liberty who 99.9% of people will have by endgame, but also with how easy a ton of barriers are to break without a barrier breaker in general with how weak all other barriers that aren't from Ultra Baa Baa and Youcan are. Wait why are we even talking about COTC lol. The video focuses on the endgame methodology past COTC which is what a lot of rankers use to rank units as well. I also disagree with pixies being the worst normal banner even in endgame since I find Lugas and Dragon Emperors worse due to their lower lows, but can we please stick to the methodology of the video?
If ponos didn’t bloat pixies with blizana and tetsukachi it would’ve been better. But lugas has consistently had garbage and also got bloated with more garbage
bro, the pixie banner IS supposed to be anti alien. Gravi is a tough vs alien. bora is a massive dmg against aliens. Yamii is to weaken aliens, bliza is to replica Gravi just weaker but also with zombie with killer, and etc. Though i respect you for talking about aer and his stats.
In my opinion (like yours) the pixies are much easier to use compared other banners. They have resist which gives them bulk which is valuable when you don't have all the starred alien treasure in CotC and they all have low cooldowns which does provide you some insurance and makes them fairly easy to stack if the stage allows you to. And all of them have barrier breaker which means if you don't have Kitty of Liberty in your loadout and you run into a Ultra Baabaa you won't have to back out and try again. And most of the pixies do have their nichies (especially in CotC) besides Aer, Blizzana, and Tekachi which can't be said for other banners like lugas. And like you said Luminalia is a decent generalist but like the other pixies she has low cooldown, is fairly tanky, and has okay damage which boosts her value. When compared to other legends like the Dragon Emperors or Wargods she is far better and while this isn't the best example in Souptasta's one slot Battle Cats Luminalia and Bora were far more effective than Professor Abyss and Doktor Heaven. While I enjoy the Lugas whenever I pulled one I was kind of disappointed but when I pulled a pixies I was actually pretty happy. But yeah I gotta go to sleep now bye.
Aight. Seems like I didn't explain my points clear enough and also didn't bring up a few important factors this time My bad. I'll talk about a few important points in this comment, but there's too many aspects to handle just in a RUclips Comment:
- Ease of Use: This is by far the most important factor that I didn't touch in the video and is one of the main reasons someone would use pixies. It's not just that pixies beat Aliens or CotC, but rather that they do so extremely easily due to the overspecialization and consistent bulk from resist. You don't need to use your brain when using them to beat CotC, which is very valuable for the new player.
- Lategame Methodology: You can tell in the video that a lot of the reasons I brought up are the later parts of the game, which is where lots of my points hold ground. The problem is that pixies fundamentally have higher value in earlier parts of the game (ItF and CotC) and my methodology doesn't reward that as much, meaning that some of the pixies in general (like Bora or Volta) seem undervalued, as they work phenomenally at CotC. Although I did touch on why I didn't see CotC as much of a problem, it sure wasn't enough. A lack of distinction on what I found most valuable made a big difference on how well my points held weight.
- The Resist/Warp Immune: These aspects aren't as useful as one might think later on, but are still quite nice for early-midgame players who aren't capable of defending their units properly (lack of units or experience). I also think I failed to bring notable attention to this point in my video, which is my bad again.
- Lack of Depth in Argument: I make a lot of assumptions when it comes to arguments for these pixies (Earlygame/CotC rush is less valuable, players can achieve same results with other ubers or Nonuber options, etc) as lots of them are either aspects I assume the player knows or don't value in the first place. However, this does end up creating confusion (and outrage, lmao) as per result of a less strong looking argument. I think I failed to recognize that my audience consists of newer players who would not understand these aspects already and would need to see an argument for or against them first. Which in a sense, is a no brainer, and while I did touch on these lightly, it was simply not to the depth for where it would be understood easily.
- Seperating Opinion from Guide: I think one very important thing that I failed to do while releasing this video is make a clear distinction that this is NOT a guide for players, but rather an opinionated take. If any new player assumes that this is a guide and doesn't bring further attention to the pixies, then that's nearing misinformation in a way. While in this video I do assume the player understand the fundamental aspects of pixies and that things I don't being up (for the most part) are simply aspects that I didn't value for the argument. But I think that considering I have made "guides" (like the LR video and Starred UL video), it was a poor decision to not include somewhere at least that this is a full opinion piece. This was definitely my bad, for sure.
There are more things worth discussing here, but too many for just one RUclips comment. So I'll leave it as this: Do you guys want a livestream where I clear up points and analyze deeper the values of Pixies to make a more clear argument for them? One big reason why a lot of facts are ommitted here is due to timesakes: I didn't want this video to be an hour long, when in reality I probably did need that time to fully explain everything. Although it won't take away the flaws from the original video, it's probably the best thing to do in order to stop misinformation. Anyways I do appreciate the feedback and although I'm not the biggest fan of dissent, I understand you guys' disappointment with a video as unclear as this one. Sorry.
Edit: Title changed, as I REALLY need to note that this is strictly my opinion.
It would be a nice way to round things up at least, I'd say. And maybe a chance for some engagement on people who disagree on certain parts about some of the ubers.
Would like to see a stream where you clarify (or maybe just a bonus video) some stuff
Tbh, a clarification video/stream would be nice, pixies is my favorite set and i have to admit i got a bit ticked off watching this video lol
Yeah but this is still complete bullshit, elemental pixies is not the worst banner, who the gurkey Turkey would use TETSUKACHI on revival of origin ☠️ they aren’t supposed to have generalist value, if this is how you rank them then it is flawed, besides, there are much worse banners, like the one that’s literally in the thumbnail, in contrast to elemental pixies, the nekoluga are generalists, and 70% of them are either outclassed or downright garbage, nekoluga is very outdated as an Uber and falls in lategame (which YIU are considering for this video), legaluga may be considered the worst or one of the worst legend rares, only being useful for its immunities and range, Papaluga and nobiluga are just bad, Assiluga and balalalaluga have an at most decent uptime for their ability, which is slow and freeze, with onky their range to really help them, and balaluga’s talents is just the cherry on top. Then there’s shishi and luffy, which are the only good Ubers in the set, compared to the elemental pixies which has bora, mizli, gravi, Volta, and the legend rare lumina. Which are way better at their job. If you need any more explanation you can reply to me in the comments and I’ll list a few details. Once again I do realize this is just an opinion, but it’s a very flawed one including the near misinformation in the video only somewhat salvaged by this comment. Anyways thanks for reading.
@@sparchamp2 of course you would have Bora as your pfp, of course
The worst gacha banner is when you forgot to update the game, so when you go to the rare capsules, you get no banner
Wrong, it’s when you time skip wrong, then you can’t even update and have to wait.
@@averageidiot1612actually it’s not having the game so you can’t roll the gacha
@@Poggers42069actually it's not knowing the game exists, meaning you don't even know of the banners existence.
@@sporeboy67 actually it’s not existing at all because you can’t learn about the game and can’t learn about the banners
The regular cat a pulse don’t even have Ubers
While I sorta agree for the most part, I think one thing I disagree on (or rather things you didn't quite cover too much) is their resist. Especially for units like Bora and Mizli, this resist can be pretty helpful.
For one, COTC in particular is where the resist is very good. Due to the restrictions of COTC, defending a more 'normal' uber like Akira or Catman is more difficult especially on stages like Skelling. DH ubers still work, but Pixies are generally better in a way that you don't have to strategize too hard in defending them. They don't really rely too much on other units you bring.
This is also the case for stages with LD threats and such, where non-tanky ubers can just get juggled to hell if you're not careful, Pixies can tank through them no problem, and since they have low cooldown, you would often have the unit off of cooldown before the previous one dies.
I think another thing is the argument that 'these ubers aren't good because non-ubers works well enough' isnt the best argument as, thats kinda the case for most ubers. Most ubers are just there to make things simpler. Ofc you get bonus points if you have a more unique ability, but having an uber that's just a better version of existing non-uber is still great as it lowers the need of actually strategizing and optimizing harder. Which in the end is what a lot of casual players want.
Also, in a way, part of why one would roll for Pixies is because it's one of most consistent sets.
You want units that specifically are tanky against aliens and can help in cosmos? Pixies will basically guarantee that without having to fear uber RNG. Not much other sets gives you this much of a consistent outcome.
but I will say though the newest 3 pixies we got are some of the most forgettable ubers in the game lmaoo
Agree with your take, but I think Yamii isn’t as forgettable as the other two, since he becomes a ranged wave blocker (a niche which has like 5 units in it, and he’s also one of if not the best at it)
The other two are definitely forgettable though. Why does Tekachi even exist?
Yeah I agree too, their resist can be very helpful in ways but hard stages in cotc are hard to find (Skelling and andromeda 3)
Pixies is a bad made banner, not a bad banner at all, ofc, it sucks as a normal game banner, but that makes sense, cuz u don't roll pixies to get "woah, goofy meta uber, poggers", u roll there cuz u want a banner made to destroy cosmos, or at least cuz u want a decent anti alien and there isn't DH in the rotation or smth like that, they are there just to bring you a counter for that part of the game
@@darianjenkins2630 Tekachi looks funny, so hes the best uber ever
I rushed COTC after into the future (just wanted to) and Volta/Aer were invaluable as I had barely any barrier breakers/consistent CC. With time Aer fell off, especially due to restrictions. But Volta is very useful for even UL where you need to consistently control Ursa Major or something.
I'm going to be completely honest with you here, I think this is one of the worst videos you've ever put out. The fact that you're immediately discrediting pixies as a set due to the existence of dark heroes, despite the said banner being filled mainly with specialists and very few generalists (aside from tjack, what else is there? Vigler for the combo?), but also how they're not great generalists overall, despite banners like lugas and dragon emperors struggling to have half of their set not be outclassed by other common units, is telling of how unjustified the pixie hate has been spreading of late throughout the community.
As such, I want to go through every single one of your points towards all ubers in the set, and simply explain why I think your methodology is starting to become contradictory and rather ignorant to the metagame as a whole, and specially for the average bc player:
-Bora, much like you said is a nuker with great damage output against aliens and only aliens. So in theory, ubers like mekako or warlock manage to nuke those enemies harder, while others like saki and catman are "less restricted in their target traits". However, talking about bora like this is ignoring the full picture. Despite bringing his stats up, you're completely ignoring 3 major factors that differenciate bora from the rest: bulk with resist, cooldown and price. You know how in UL (particularly starred UL), enemies can manage to be quite overbuffed to the point of having great damage output? Well bora can offset this with his excellent anti alien bulk that can let him shred off hits, notably letting him be more efficient against the likes of a pushing Ursamajor, and even if he dies early, he won't have to suffer from a sluggish cooldown like catman or mekako, as his cd is much, much lower than the average, a factor way too important on mixed stages (look at aethur or any great rusher for instance). Bora isn't still amazing in my eyes, but it's odd how you're already ignoring desirable traits on any kind of uber, despite once again, lugas and DE having this issue as their core.
-Mizli, the unit that's supposedly unnecessary becuase of seafarer. I'll say, the latter definitely harms the potential of the former, but here I have a different issue: what's your proof her kb, an ability that no other good non uber anti alien has, is completely pointless? Having KB on demand is a huge trait, as it's completely able to shut down meaningful pushes from the enemy. Why aren't you bringing specific stage examples of the unit being outclassed by seafarer in this regard? Not to mention, you once again fail to bring up her bulk and this time range difference from seafarer, which allows her to hit enemies in the same trait much more safely in comparison, once again bringing someone like ursamajor or IM face too. As well, mizli is way more consistent with her procs to boot, so even when I don't think she's much more than "decent", I still feel you're underselling her tremendously by doing a poor analysis.
-Aer, well he's pretty bad by himself so I don't have many criticisms here, and his uf has too little value for the darkeye cost, so I agree here.
-Volta, where you actually mention his range being able to differenciate him from seafarer, despite not treating mizli in the same fashion. That's already a contradiction with your analysis, but I'll stick to the unit itself for now.
Once again tho, there's a general disregard of his ability to handle aliens with higher range than seafarer, with a general consensus of "yeah seaf is just all you need", which holds little value without meaningful proof. Again, what about the consistency of volta? And what about scenarios like 3 star UL or baron hyppoh where he absolutely shreds in spite of seaf existing?
-Gravi, where you also bring up his cd and cost thanks to his generalist potential, while also praising him in what he does. So no issues here.
Instead, I have to mention the fact that you still have to mention how "this set doesn't have any broken uber" is a factor against them, despite once again having banners like lugas, DE, or even Ggals to an extent in a similar scenario, where none of their best ubers are truly broken. If we're really making that point, every banner aside from almighties and dynamites sucks because only their units manage to be truly broken, and dasli/phonos/balrog are all you need for most of the game, and I consider this illogical.
-Yamii, where I originally agreed with you the most. He's unimpressive as an anti alien/aku, but his wave blocking ability is really good, if rare to get usage out of. I also appreciate bringing up an example of where he does well where as octo wouldn't. However, I then remembered that yamii's biggest strength is him enabling other non wave immune units to shine, where as octo can't actually do this consistently. It's not much different than treating yamii as another kind of support, only instead of debuffing, he prevents further harm for your units.
What I also find strange tho is mentioning his resist up combo, yet not doing the same for gravi's def up sm, which has a much wider range of applications and includes the best general unit in the set. Still, not much else to say.
-Bliza. Calling her one of the worst ubers in the game is extremely ignorant of her actual usability as her pre tf was indeed subpar overall, but was still able to perform well on itf, outbreaks, and decently on cotc.
And her tf did indeed fix a lot of her issues, giving her actual bulk that you once again fail to mention, as well as making her a much more competent anti zombie with this change, given she can tank through burrows much more effctively, while also managing to hit cadaver bear with a safety net (housewife is purely reliant on sniping, which isn't always consistent). Also, you bring up big peng Z as a good matchup for her, but did you know she's able to completely stomp baron hyppoh too? The much more relevant baron and where she'd want to be used? Just why are you bringing her "lack of generalist usage" when she's not meant to be used this way??? That's like saying Iron legion sucks as a set due to their lack of generalist usage (also oar has plenty of issues post sol, while truck is lackluster overall). Just because a unit can't do everything doesn't mean they're automaticlaly worthless.
-Tetsukachi, an underwhelming tank because of the reasons you brought up. He seriously needs a tf to give him level 1 surge and a general stat boost, that way he'd be equal to gravi. Still, no issues with your argument here.
-Luminalia, another pixie tank (sorta) with good generalist stats, yet one where you mention how soap will cover most of what you need without great examples of this case. Once again, it comes off as an arbitrary point. And I fail to understand how someone like lumina, able to tank and weaken enemies, is more valuable than bora (tank + murder enemies) or mizli (apparently outclassed by seafarer without desirable traits).
Then you simply confirmed one of my previous points, you're looking at the set from the perspective of wanting a broken uber in the set, yet not only do you downplay on the value of pixies as a whole with arguments that lack any relevant substance or proper evaluation of the ubers themselves, you also ignore the solid consistency of the set because of this exact downplay, despite a banner like lugas having flat out 2 or maybe 3 useful ubers as a whole (no mention of notable stages for your argument, also calling nobiluga underrated is insane) or DE having over half their options be outclassed by other ubers.
Speaking of which, why are you considering other ubers into the equation? You still bring up the existence of dark heroes as the overall better counterpart from pixies, yet not only are they different enough where pixies have their own natural value over non uber alternatives, you can just apply this whole mentality to any other set in the game that's not almighties or dynamites. Why would you ever roll for galaxy gals or monster gals when almighties exist? Why would you ever roll on dynamites when you can just get dasli and clear 80% of the game with her? The actual reason is simple:
Not everybody can actually get all ubers in the game, let alone all broken ubers. This is a gacha game, a game where players will have widly different experiences because of the ubers they get, where certain units can either be extremely helpful to the player or niche at best due to the other options IN THEIR COLLECTION.
The existence of other ubers is never a determining factor for another uber viability unless the player has both exact ubers for the comparison. Otherwise once again, would all uber backliners suck because dasli simply exists, or do you actually disagree?
So yeah, given how much you seem to be downplaying pixies, to the point of saying "players aren't able to find good usages for them (which is false, look at gravi relic talents soloing IT40 and greatly helping for IT49, blizana being able to demolish baron hyppoh, or bora helping majorly on glass slippers)", it makes me think you aren't actually evaluating them fairly, since you either can't seem to decide whether or not they should be evaluated for their niche or in a general sense, or you don't apply this same mindset to sets like iron legion or ultra souls.
It's probably a matter of differing methodologies, but even so, I severely question your consistency and reasoning behind this take.
I highly doubt you'll read this enormous wall text, but to reiterate now: This is easily the worst video you've done, and the worst analysis you've put out.
Eyewaltz sblow is worth it
Weakest pixie fan
a lot of emotion conveyed through this text. and it pretty much flawlessly counters this entire video 🙏🙏very worth the read
Honestly I want this comment pinned as this is the perfect counter point for this video.
Bro i read it all and it was awesome you put out all my thoughts as well
Wait...so you want to tell me that Pixies, a set with half pretty ok to good units and half bad units is worse than Nekolugas, a set where these days like two are used rarely and all have aged like milk due to bad talents?
I don't get it.
generalists are better than specialists all the time amirite
@@GovernorRed That would be true if the generalists weren't build with mid-game stats...
@@GovernorRed*courier dislikes this opinión*
@@GovernorRederaser disagrees
did u watch the whole video?
He didn't even bother to metion how Gravi managed to bring a completely relevant role to the already super powercrept Relic meta and being extremely good at it. Putting him in the pretty decent tier is criminal. He is at least amazing tier.
Gravi the goat. Rare L video from him as i feel he's kinda biased
all of his opinions video are Ls anyways, no wonder. I'd click the video just to see comments 😂
yeah, gravi's stats can compete and even outperform UL Legends, he actually does have good general stats as well just like said UL legends
@@acatz9462 almost every take this guy has is an L, he put Gigapult in D tier for example. I'm only here cuz someone I know showed me this, told me the conclusion, and it threw me past the line
@acatz9462 This man's favorite SoL subchapter is Cutpurse Coast. You know, the chapter full of boss spam, bookended by a basic yet somehow brutal Alien stage and the most overrated stage in BC history? That's not even getting into plenty of other questionable decisions, like ranking Spacetime Distortion highly despite acknowledging how lazy it is, giving The Scratching Post special treatment over other rehash chapters for no discernable reason and putting Happy Lucky Temple at third place solely because it's memorable.
A bit late in the year for an April fools day joke, isn’t it?
this was his opinion, not a guide, like he said
@@domhawj1509still a bit of a flawed opinion, only a little justified in the pinned comment.
@@domhawj1509horrible opinion if anything
@@JDguy11222yeah
Getting angry at it is the real joke. Seriously why care enough to get angry
Appreciate you putting Gravi as best Pixie, but would’ve liked to see more praise. I think he has genuinely become cracked with Relic target since there’s basically zero major weak points towards his melee/ tanker build.
gravi was already best pixie before talents ngl
@@XskullDrSkull I would even say Gravi is the best relic tank in the entire game right now
@@narrihson8747 Honestly valid, I did a ton of testing and found Gravi about as good if not better than Gigapult as a Relic tank.
@@XskullDrSkull yeah, gigapult is still amazing but I feel it works better as a LD/support unit that happens to have great bulk, while gravi is more of a straightforward tank
Gravi is the unit i love to use, the concept of spreading guaranteed barrier breaker with wave attack is already overwhelmingly strong.
It's also amazing how he only got simple resist/target talents (aside general stats up) and yet it's one of the most appreciated ones.
😭 the absolute disrespect of putting gravi in “pretty decent tier” when he is now one of the best anti relic not even mentioning the blizana slander
Gravi deserved better tbh, also what’s up with Blizana?
@@RandomDude1206 he slandered her horribly. He said he preferred papaluga over bliza because of his surge immunity
Blizana my beloved
People say that Papalugas true form changed nothing. Well... you see... he's got a cool bandana now.
Dont forget the extra curse time
Don't forget the extra Health
Dont forget his extra rizz
Dont forget the drip 🕶️🔥
Dont forget the extra girls he get
this video is like saying paipai is ass cuz she only kills reds or how saki is bad cuz she can only hit alien and relic, you can't judge specialists by generalist traits. dasli is bad cuz she has less dps to blacks than musashi. Of course, this video is based on your methodology (or however you spell that), but that doesn't stop me from saying your methodology is kinda doodoo
He brought up their generalist value only to compare them to other specialists. Using examples such as Aphrodite and Catman as Ubers that destroy aliens, but also have value outside of that niche.
(Though I disagree with this methodology, as the examples are both the absolute top tiers in terms of Ubers. This is not even mentioning the fact that you typically only roll pixes in the early game for a consistent anti alien)
When you have a whole set that only is good vs aliens and for the most part sucks vs all other traits, it’s a bad set. Especially when dark heroes is just way better.
Do note that half of the dark heroes either arent good against aliens or are akin to Tjack who only has it in ability form.
i think someone already said it but, one doesnt Roll pixies for general use, if you roll pixies is because you want a good anti alien (early - mid game)
@@kingauther7812 dark heroes can be good, and pixies can be fine as well, the existance of a "better" option doesn't invalidate another option. Bora and gravi singlehandedly shut down most alien stages.
This video in a nutshell: "I have lvl 50+70 seafarer/miter saw/catellite, so pixies are bad."
As someone with a lvl 60 seafarer if you get his freeze talent maxed out it will do WAY better than Volta plus mitter saw being 50 +70 is so unrealistic even for someone like chillhola also catellite / jet pack have completely different roles than most pixies and yet they still do a better job
@@rainbowwatcher423 YOU JUST PROVED HIS POINT?
@@patrycjasznabowicz literally how talents are available pretty early and rover is even earlier the only exception is jet pack being late game and saw since you need luck getting him and even with that they all have different roles from the pixies except for seafarer also canned never mentioned boosted units
@@rainbowwatcher423 if we hypothetically... talk about voli in general.
Voli (1st form) has 50% to freeze aliens for 3 seconds.
25-16 seconds recharge
more range.
and more speed.
cons:
somewhat slow attack rate (6 seconds)
less dps than seafarer.
well i mean the point is, you can just use both on alien stages.
my level 40 catellite is more useful than tetsukachi, cry about it
The major flaw in this video is that you assume that everyone has every Uber by early mid game
Bro is assuming we all seed track to get every unit to max by CotC 2
This video is nothing but pixie slander dawg
yeah I get he wants to say something new but nekolugas are obviously still worse lol. like the lugas are borderline unusable and gimmicky like bro just wants to say a new opinion for the sake of being different
Yeah pretty much
@anglecringe6917 let's be real the girlmons are the real worst because dude literally forgot they exist
@@Rinne_Z_rank some are mid while others are pretty good. But they are sorta forgettable since they don’t appear in Uber or epic fests
@@Rinne_Z_rank most of them are saved by having very powerful combos
That's... A hot take if I've ever seen one before... I'm literally the biggest Lumina hater I know and even I think the pixies are still not the worst set, and I do have some criticisms.
Specifically, I think you are underrating Gravi, Volta and Aer, and severely underrating Yamii.
-Even before talents, Gravi was a really good wave unit, that is actually on par with units like cradle. giving him the relic resist expands his usage massively in late game, while also keeping his wave capabilities AND keeping them for those late game usages.
-In Volta's case, I think that beside the "outclassed by sanzo"-ish arguments that are quite common throughout the video (which dismiss the potential usage and value the "outclassed" unit could generally net you in a stage in any situation), you are underestimating the utility of an immediate, none-chance determinant CC against aliens (especially in 3 star UL), while also having warp immune and barrier breaker as a bonus. I cant put the specifics of how that benefits him into words that easily, but even when im 25k User Rank deep into the game, I have found usages for him (over seafarer too) from time to time
-Aer was violated here. I have nothing more to say other than the fact that you put her on the same level as Blizanna on the tierlist is nothing short of an error of judgement, at least in my opinion.
-Yamii simply existing as a unit is bringing so much to the table. Being the cheapest ranged wave blocker that is actually usable, while also being the most easily accessible one (due to him not being tied to a seasonal event or a collab), brings the ranged wave blocker meta to so many people who otherwise were not able to get access to Tokyo Miku or Eva-00. It also helps that having the unique trait of resisting aku (while also having the small bonus of being a weaken unit) gives him more relevancy and viability in late game stages that might mix wave enemies and aku enemies. His recharge is also better than the other ranged wave blockers, and he can really come in handy when the (honestly quite overrated) standard wave immune attackers like dancer or mushroom dont work or arent enough to withstand the push of the wave enemies combined with other threats in the stage.
Like, I agree that pixies arent really the best set around, but they most CERTAINLY are not worse than Tales of The "4500$ Pillars of Doing Nothing At All and Dying In One Hit" Nekolugas
Can you please elaborate about the biggest Lumina hater part?
wut did lumina do to bro?
@@XxCosmologyxX I think people overrate her and im coping for Professor Abyss to be a better anti alien
The set has tekachi who is very funny to look at so its good
nah worst uber set be dynastyfest its all seasonal
'bora bad cuz it can't melt metal' ahh take
Bro this caught me off guard. Well done sir.
"Ld units are bad because they can't solo korea" ahh take
You’re not listening. For one, he put bora in b tier, which means that he thinks it’s a decent unit. For two, he’s saying that bora is outclassed EVEN WHEN COMPARING TO OTHER ANTI ALIEN NUKERS
@@kpopnimation bora is more cost-effective for those stats. He ses bora is bad because he's only good against alien when all these other nukers target both alien and _____. We're mad because he is judging bora by his General preformence hence the joke 🤯
The methodology for this is annoying in that when people draw on elemental pixies, they generally dont have the resources to pull specific ubers from specific events (ie: mekako or a LEGEND RARE) due to them being in early/mid game. Thus, theyd roll pixies to at least get some kind of anti alien uber for whatever itf or cotc boss theyre on. And while outclassed, at least the cc ones do a decent job of working WITH the units that “outclass” it. Look at volta and seafarer, voltas guaranteed freeze makes it way easier for seafarers to stack up due to their non guaranteed chance. It also helps with units that outrange or kb seafarer before it can hit, like super cosmic cyclone. What im saying is that i understand what you’re saying, but your methodology seems to be odd
Also uhh
Pixies are just better anti aliens than the "specific pull uber rares" about 90% of the time, even in endgame lmao. And this is from someone who doesn't really like pixies
not to mention, pixies are consistent, if you roll your guarantee, you’ll get some sort of anti alien that will help
Why is bro glazing lugas 😭 only a third of them are “usable,” never cook again. Most pixies are actually good throughout many relevant parts of game progression
Lugas is #1 banner, I perma roll it every time it comes around. No I dont care what anyone has to say. I WILL KEEP ROLLING IT UNTIL THEY ARE ALL MINE!!!
@@0ll312 I respect that, i just like the pixies in general lol. Bora was my most hated but after getting him, I've started liking him more
@@0ll312you are the world’s smallest brain. pixies are 10x better than those stupid, useless backliners
@@domhawj1509 Don’t be calling the Nekolugas useless. They are very valuable and just have a bad wrap.
@@nightmareriddenlibrarian2924why would you hate him??
I think your ranking of the pixies is not really fair to them, the pixies might not be the best set in the game, but that’s not why people roll them.
I started cats of the cosmos without a good anti alien over and rolled on pixies to help and got Bora, their true form was a great help especially on restriction stages.
I would say that other Ubers do outclass the pixies, but they provide good value for early game players.
Comparing them to soap cat seems redundant to me, as the requirement for soap is so much later in the game than the pixies stop having a lot of value. It’s clear that if you can unlock soap you have far outgrown the utility of the pixies (expect for maybe gravi whose anti relic is fairly good late game).
I think you’ve forgotten what it’s like in the early game, which makes sense as it was likely a long time ago you did cotc or itf without knowing the meta and best units. Just because something isn’t good late game doesn’t mean it’s useless.
Just because the pixies are outclassed by other units or quite endgame units like soap doesn’t mean they are useless. They do fall off beyond a certain point but I think they are a great resources for new players or ones who don’t have good anti alien Ubers.
Nintendo stop trying to disguise yourself to crap on elemental pixies
I dislike the premise of this video - you say that this banner is the worst, and for each uber rare, you say it's not the best at its role. A unit doesn't have to be the best to be valuable, and this banner also tends to carry people through ItF and CotC.
this guy only thinks in black and white, either you're the best or you're garbage, he'd make a great conservative talking head
I love the fact that throught the years if banner don't have game breaking SS uber wild card then it sucks ass
Nekoluga banner has the worst units in the game that only have niche usages but that's okay cuz it has one pretty good unit (that's still really situational) and one decent unit :)
I mean togeluga, tecoluga as well as most of the other lugas would gain less value over time because their kit is not suitable for the role they are designed for being backliners, often super backliners. Ponos just refuses to give them any immunities or really any CC option that has good uptime as well as procs chance to keep them in current meta leaving them as glass cannon that don't really shot
luffalan also heavily struggles in this meta too, lugas are super outdated as ubers. He’s too slow, has really awful survivability having literally just 1 knockback, the range is good and sure the nuke damage is nice but who even cares when he’s only good in stages with few peons which are very irrelevant and aren’t hard, I think he might do something against yulala but idk probably not still
@@patfad7243 They are just glass lol
@@charlottesemicolon3 Yulala is already powercrept by so many things anyway lol.
it doesn't really make sense to compare the pixies to other anti alien specialists and use that to detract from the banner as a whole. the elemental pixies banner is meant for players who need an easily accessible answer to aliens and starred aliens: pulling on other banners like dark heroes still runs the risk of receiving ubers without anti-alien capabilities or only reach that state in their true forms, which detracts from their accessibility knowing that ITF is meant to directly follow the EOC chapters
the definitive worst standard banner is the nekolugas, given how highly saturated it is with mediocre crowd controllers that fail to contribute meaningfully, but that's the boring answer
Good comment
Yeah that's why they have pretty spammable and mid cost first form. Ponos just wanted them to be accessible on wide majority of restrictions so that new as well as (at that time when cotc came to the game) experienced players could have fairly balanced challenge.
Also for some restriction stages on cotc, Mizli was the only thing keeping my frontline from falling apart
yeah lugas are basically unusable while the pixies at least CAN do something bro just wants to say a different opinion because saying luga would make the video less interesting
@@anglecringe6917 yeah when you’re rolling Lugas you have like 3 Ubers that are usable while every pixie can at least be pretty good which makes it much less of a gamble
i think that people that watch ranking/tierlist are people that just started in the game (some of them) and want to see how good the units they got are, but they should know that most of these youtubers rank on late game, NOT EARLY GAME, because pixies(for me) are the best early into the future Ubers you can roll. (SOME not every pixie is good)
Why does bro talk like an IGN journalist
Even going off late game, this video is memably bad. Multiple pixies (Bora, Yamii, Lumina, and especially Gravi after the nedt update gives him target relic) are still extremely good. And pretty much every Pixie except Aer and Tekachi have a good amount of use, all being better than the lower half of Lugas at all points in the gane
@@meinman7591 i think most of the rankings that i have seen from many people are generally bad, they idk instead of saying how well they perform and how much and what it can do, they just say "meh outclassed." and move on without really giving any merit to the uber that isnt in the meta, i could be wrong but... most of them rank like that, not everyone
at least its not gamerant pokemon articles.
@@SpiceBushYisang2 Lemme guess, this guy, Xskull, and maybe Siluman? I don't do that, nor do the people on bc forums, well some of us. The only time we take out the outclassed card is something like Thundia when Courier exists, a non uber that does as well or better and can be gotten either before or at a similar time to the uber, like UT anti relics would pretty much only be gotten at the very end of UL
@@meinman7591 well, on the ranking parts i was just joking about it, but im aware that in the forums thats not really done, but anyways thanks for having the time to answer,
21:04 "they're not that bad if you search up a guide." What did you smoke brother, that made you seriously say that
titan jumpscare
Andromeda 3 is literally the single least enjoyable stage in the game
Skelling is free, andromeda 3... yeah that stage sucks
As someone who collected the pixies all of them because of looks I'm aware some have flaws but I still will use Luminala Gigavolta Bazibastra and Yaminoir.
Water, Earth, Fire, Air, Thunder, Darkness, Ice, Steel, Aether
Only the Avatar mastered all 9 elements, only he could stop the ruthless doge army, but when the world needed him most, he vanished.
The worst banner is the Gals of Summer banner because you can only play with one hand if Seashore Kai is on the field
.... What.?
@@cyberadmiral9806 someone doesn't get it
Always happens, it's a major downside since I normally use my right hand to send the non meatshields
I use Cat Computer so both hands are free
i dont wanna ruin the joke but he did say seasonal sets are excluded
The pixies???? You gotta convince me real hard
Fr
I'll never be convinced
@@therealgigavoltaSame
Spoiler he did not cook
I think you neglect to mention that Gigavolta works well _WITH_ Seafarer, as often they allow your Seafarers to close the gap on enemies they usually can't reach easily, and are also naturally warp immune (Seafarer needs NP investment), which is good to keep a consistent freeze uptime. Another great thing about gigavolta is how reliable they are, having a 100% freeze, and their speed often allows them to reach a backliner after you breach the enemy peons (especially if they were frozen or dead when they were knockbacked) or make it back to the frontline swiftly once their significant effective HP against aliens gets depleted. Blazibastra, while "replaceable", has a different appeal to me, which is role compression and cost efficiency. The extra value they provide doesn't come in the form of LD sniping, bonus CC, or anything like that; it's about the good cooldown and low-ish cost, plus the fact that unlike other alien nukers, they have barrier breaker themselves, needing no support in order to land their first strike on an enemy with a barrier. They are very effective on one row only, 1200c, and other CotC restriction stages. Other than that, I generally agree, mostly on the fact that DH is a better banner for earlygame players anyway, since they get Ubers they can use outside of pure alien stages, which is important for them having fewer options in their collection. I would still consider the lugas a little worse overall, though.
Some of these points feel a bit questionable, but even though you said Gravi was the best pixie, you really undersold him. His stats are kinda crazy when leveled, especially now that he has talents, and he can single-handedly take out IT30 and 40. I feel like that's at least an S tier (though I'd put him at SS because of the sheer amount of usage I get from him)
Before watching the videos assuming there's no collabs or holidays it's the Luga's
Summerluga? betrothed babaluga?
Edit: nvm im an idiot and read this wrong
heh
6:44 Bora Doesn't have the best damage or range for alien Nuking because she has utility: high effective hp, warp immune, guaranteed barrier breaker, and good mobility.
Honestly, i think you're really undermining their specialist power. Not every uber needs to be useful outside their niche. Unlike the nekolugas, there is very much a reason to pull for this banner, and that's anti alien. Most if not all the nekolugas are generalists with questionable and replaceable performance (save for 2 exceptions) , still however more replaceable than the pixies' anti alien abilities.
The lugas are more inclined towards bad units, while the pixies are split in half, which is why i wouldn't consider them the worst
Yeah, he mentioned a lot of 'better' alien nukers, but those nukers are getting stuck behind barriers and warped back
@@CardGameAcolyteand bora is kinda stackable, bora also has resist and the cost is really good
Plus she doesn’t have a blind spot like every alien nuker
Shout out to daliasan for single handedly pulling dragon emperors out of garbage tier 🗣️🐟
Meme/funny: ✅
Actually good: ✅
Haven't reached true form: ✅
@@AAAAnomalySo fucking true tho😂
ganglion and dio uf helped too
And gundaros is also helping now
Mitsubishi walked so that daliasan could run 🗣️🗣️🗣️( I have both and they’re basically the same
Bros acting like these ubers killed his grandma
I feel like you glazed Luga way too hard.
What make most of them useless, it just not their low health and high cooldown. It because a lot their abilities just doesn't do a lot. While they do target every single trait, there rarely a level where every single enemy is dangerous.
Let say that a stage spam red bore and Nimmy bore, you only really need to deal with one of those trait. With red bore i can bring Ice Cat and Nimmy with Volta. As freezing either one of them reduce the pushing power so much, you don't really need to worry about other. You can also just bring two of them to complete destroy the stage.
There really no reason to bring most of the Luga that focus CC in this stage as their debuff completely outclass by any other uber. Luga also really only work in stage that push slowly, it that stage push extremely fast, they will hit the enemy once then few second later they died.
Lugas definitely are not useless
@@kingauther7812 I mean most of them are, the only good one are Luffy, Shishi, Bala and Asi
@@kang2448Tecoluga is really good, Asiluga is good, Balaluga is good, Nekoluga is good but only with UT so it kinda doesn’t count, Kaoluga is decent, Togeluga is decent, Kubiluga is decent, Furiluga is decent, Nobiluga is alright… and Papaluga is bad
@@kingauther7812 can you at least mention any reason what make other Luga decent.(don’t need to list out the ones I called good)
@@kang2448 Kubiluga is a good anti metal, who fulfills a very unique role as an anti metal, which is being 100% consistent killing all low hp metals on the field (which is most metals). Furiluga is just an amazing shield piercer and can be used almost anywhere for shield piercings. Kaoluga has decent damage at high range and a strong mini surge fit high bonus damage, and has a chance to create an unstoppable knockback surge wall. I think everyone knows why Shishi is decent. And Ultralan is good because his kb freeze pairs really well, and his ultratalebts give him good survivability.
A true man never speaks ill of Papaluga
2:50 I think he’s cooked
but a true man speaks ill of Picolan's talents
Im a proue owner of a 50+4 papaluga💪💪
2:50 i think he’s cooked then
@@sh_aspking he took the bullet of mid so that idi could flourish. Speak higher of him.
I don’t care if the pixies are bad or not, they destroy the alien trait and they’re essential when you’re in the COTC phase of the game. Character wise, the pixies are my favourite characters in the game, especially Luminalia.
(i already said this on the community post but ill just say it here too) I can respect having a hot take but you just make terrible points and blatant contradictions throughout the entire thing. Why try and say bora is a bad generalist and then go on to comparing him to other specialists like saki, aphrodite, and catman? And then you try and make it seem like the banner having specialists is bad but you then go on to glaze those same units like mad doctor klay and saki who are literally hyper specialized into their traits. You also give thunder jack the benefit of the doubt when it comes to him getting a good true form, but the same consideration isnt given for tetsukachi, which is somewhat understandable considering his current state, however its not something to completely ignore. I would also like to state how there is very little arguments to make for nekoluga not being the worst banner, the only uber from that set who even sees any form of widespread praise is lufalan (and maybe shishilan, but even as the 2nd best uber in the set, that sadly feels like a stretch to me), the rest of the nekolugas either have a lot, or too many weaknesses that outweigh the positives they bring when using them, or theyre not even good at all (like half of the set). The thing that also showed to me you have some clear bias is that you say papaluga>blizarena... dont even get me started with trying to say papaluga is good at anything. This is all without mentioning you vastly underestimate every uber from the pixies for no reason, even the ones you consider mediocre: yamii is literally groundbreaking in his niche of a ranged waveblocker as its one of the smallest ones we currently have, bora may not be the best generalist, but with his strengthen talent maxed out he has one of, if not the highest effective dps against aliens, lumina is the best alien staller with 1.9m hp against aliens with her 100% weaken uptime, and gravi is not only the best relic tank in the game and a decent alien tank, but he also carries good dps and generalist stats. I mightve yapped too much but your recent video is just not a good one.
well yami is (arguably) the best ranged wave blocker, and gravi is not only already pretty good, he's gonna get anti-relic talents as well.Plus they are just better generalists since they are cheaper and won't get one-shotted by enemy doge-dark breathing too hard. So lugas are the worst banner by a mile, saying the pixies are somehow worse than this is just baffling.
Oh yeah, don't forget that legeluga happens to be the worst legend rare as well. Not that lumina is amazing or something, at least she's got the niche of being the ultra-mega alien counter.
i mean, ive also gotten a ton of usage out of lumina with her very high health and good dps, pairing her with other tanky rushers works super well to brute force rush some stages
clearly the worst banner is epicfest because it contains Dasli
Fym it’s because it contains dphonoa, it doesn’t have warp immune which means it’s worse 🙄
Should I laugh at this?
bro youre clearly a lucas iv fan
Souptasta would not be happy
Bro probably already killed and replaced him
@@Cringegames6 he died by battle cats overdose
@@GDNoob150 Nah he is at a mental hospital in Ohio gyat town
@@Cringegames6too far
Neither am I
S.Alien gimmick vs. "Whatever tf you would consider the lugas".
Fortunately, as time goes on, sets that originally started as one tricks like the pixies have started becoming more flexible, Yamii being debatably the best wave blocker, and Gravi just being really good now is a great example.
I won't stand this anti-pixie propaganda.
Also the downplay on Luminalia hurts.
@@HEALLMAN True, I am not letting my favourite cat take this slander
@@HEALLMANlumina has been getting worse thanks to ultra boosted star aliens and starred UL. it's why I don't use her anymore.
@@lianneroban9906If even Luminalia can’t stand those ultra boosted aliens, that means no unit in the game can tank them due to her godlike tanking of 3 million HP. That’s when you have to crowd control those lethal aliens.
@@lianneroban9906yeah but what can tank a 4800% star peng
Bro i just got a Legend Ticket and got Papa Luga 😭🙏
Legend(ary) pull
I got Miko Mitama. Sorry that you werent that lucky.
i'm prolly gonna get my trillionth uber dupe when i use mine, i'd kill for papaluga cause at least he'd be new and i'd get UR
RIP
@@CheeseChurger late game meta is just no dupes😭😭😭😭
Counterpoint: they're cute
Yup👍
That checks out 👍
Insta win, no questions needed👍
i am agree with statement that "pixie is worst regular banner" because most of them are too overspecialized and lack of generalist capability which might doom them on mixed stages, a common occurrence in late game. it is basically banner for short-term progression (cotc cheat button). but we do not tolerate blizana slander here. the fuck you mean she is worst pixie, even worse than papaluga. you keep yapping about utility this and utility that but fail to see her value. her point is not being MVP unit who singlehandly beat the stages for you. she is safety net unit. she has bulkiness, consistency, and piercing attack. not many anti-alien/zombie units have that many features, even among ubers. when your defense crumble, she will be the one hold your frontline and buy you time to recover. when your main CC has poor accuracy and/or consistency, she will build the foundation for you. she won't be up there among 'top' pixies, but she is definitely not bottom tier material. there are other pixies who get undeserved treatment like bora, volta, and even luminalia. but it seems everyone already share same disagreement with me.
it's overall good video. but you really don't need to undervalue them just to make your point stronger
I was shaking when my ears had to suffer such torture, blizana is so underrated. I hate how the BC community is either ''lets find the good in underappreciated units'' or ''its not kasli so its F''
aint no way he said that he would rather have papaluga than blizana, tf is papaluga gonna do, his point is that papa is an alright anti-surge attacker in a pinch. bruh if you are this starved for anti-surge, no way you're protecting papaluga with meatshields, his paper thin ass is dying in 3 seconds lmao, then you have to wait for an eon to get him back. At least blizana counters zollows fine
Blizzy alt detected
The absolute slander in this video towards blizana was downright diabolical
as someone who absolutely despises zombies, even though i have a few anti-zombie ubers already, i'm still considering getting Bliza, a bulky mid-ranger with omni-strike, z-killer and toxic immune is already good enough for me to consider adding her to anti-zombie lineups, whereas i have no idea if i'll even use someone like Papaluga anywhere ever if i get him
besides, Blizarena's design is peak
"Keep your Pixies count low"
Me happened to have 6/6 Pixies (before Blizana existed) at ItF 2 :shrug:
Me where just the two that he called "okay" carried me through cotc 3:
Me with all of them except for Mizli 👁👄👁
@@therealgigavoltaI'm the exact opposite lmfao
Yeah that still doesn’t convince me. I rather have outclassed units than units that basically do nothing and die. At least you can get another Pixie when it dies, since their cooldowns are so short.
i dont like the "outclassed" arguments on ubers, sure there are some units that do a "better" job, but i mean that doesnt mean you CANT USE those ubers with the units that outclassed them, and make a good combo.
@@SpiceBushYisang2 simply, not everyone has ever uber
@@charlottesemicolon3 that doesnt invalidate my argument
@SpiceBushYisang2 prolly makes it stronger too
I get that they’re bad, but no way are they worse than the lugas. The lugas has debatably like 2-3 good Ubers with the rest being horrid. At least this set has a few good Ubers
never cook again you burnt my house down and i have to live in a homeless shelter, gravolodon is so much better then "pretty decent tier", he has literally carried me through the ENTIRE game, i have him level 50+2, I would never put that kind of effort into any other uber, not even dasli, he is in literally almost every stage lineup i have specifically because of his crazy wave damage, health, and cost, i would let him smash me with his big hard rock any day
No, they do what they do and are simply outclassed. That doesn’t make the actually decent ones bad, they’re just outclassed, yes by dark heroes who predate them, but also by the more powercreeped units who came after them.
The banner isn’t bad, at most it’s underwhelming, and that mostly is because there isn’t a game breaking uber unlike most sets and that’s fine, not every banner needs to have one just because every other one does, and even if it doesn’t that doesn’t make the banner bad, just, like I said, underwhelming.
Ok, this is a very strange opinion, you're saying this is worse than the nekolugas, a banner that has units that get 1-shot instantly by almost every enemy? (They're still really good tho) but the elemental pixies is just not the worst banner and your opinion isnt right...
A lot of people already said a lot to refute your points, so I'll just leave my example here: with enough investment and right setup, bora can delete puffsley from HT F47. I think an uber is as good as the stages it can make easier and trivializing one of the hardest stages in the game makes bora very good
isnt the one of the hardest stage anymore but it is a common struggle point so an uber that can delete it is pretty solid, Bora also carries ahjillo highlands
This might be the first Video that said "5 seconds ago" in my recommended
It's 5 minutes for me
I will not tolerate pixie slander.
bait used to be believable
is that the red must
Open the book roland
Is that the red mist
Should i keep my eyes buttered till the end?
i wouldn't roll pixies but i would still rather roll them over lugas 😂😂
Your loss
@@kingauther7812 The dummy that roll for Luga is the one losing here, have fun find a stage that Papaluga or Nobiliga can carry.
@@Only4two100bucks you don’t need to hard carry a stage to not be garbage, and you named the 2 worst lugas. Come up with a better argument when?
@@kingauther7812 On the opposite, if most luga can do is subpar CC support then are they not garbage in the first place? The only Luga that have strong place in the meta is Luffalan, with Asiluga and Balaluga being light support, and the rest ranges from forgettable to downright awful.
@@Only4two100bucks when you combine these supports, you can beat so many stages
Nope. Disagreed. Denied.
You are underrating blizana and calling her worse tha papluga is just wrong. As she can be useful against zombies because of very high health in true form, notably zapy and big pen z
The pixies have one of the best anti aliens
The main problem with the nekolugas is that it has one of the best nukers in the game (Luffalan) and it has one of the worst units in the game (Papaluga) The nekolugas banner is pretty inconsistent, making it generally a total gamble to get Tecoluga or the other mid units there
Thanks again for making amazing videos lol, I watched your recent hardest stages in the game video and I thought that video was amazing. Thank you!!
should've spent your money on another less controversial video imo
@@alberto4697 The point isn't spending the money on the video, it's spending the money on the creator. Thank you for the input though!
Nekoluga is still a worse banner and half of these should be moved up one tier. The nekolugas have way worse average quality. Papaluga and Nobiluga are consistently ranked as some of the worse Ubers. Kubilan has no use and Assassinlan’s slow isn’t that useful anyways and gets outclassed directly by another Uber in the same set meaning Assassinlan actively ends up dragging down the set. Nekoluga is just a below average Uber that no one uses. One of the main themes of the Nekolugas is having extremely low health (except shishilan). Balaluga can actually be pretty good in some circumstances and is definitely the third best Uber. You have a chance of getting two good Ubers out of 10 so the chances aren’t good. Also the legend rare is bad even by Uber standards. You said they’re outclassed by dark heroes but for some reason dark heroes seems to never show up. Also Bora is a better anti alien than any dark heroes I have (I don’t have cat man or mekako) Elemental Pixies is actually better dark heroes early to mid game I would argue. Volta is really helpful for the last 2 into the future bosses. Bora demolishes most aliens because of its insane dps. In souptastas video you can see that bora can solo 95% of itf stages. Mizli is really overhated but she is kind of like assassinlan where she is overshadowed by Volta which doesn’t have her problems. Most of the set is above average which can’t be said for the Nekolugas. Overall Elemental Pixies is great for early to mid game and although it falls off hard during late game i still wouldn’t say it’s as bad as the Nekolugas.
summary: papaluga best uber
@@SpiceBushYisang2 nah bro bikinilan better
I'm gonna focus on one point in your comment being your take on Asiluga. The other stuff I really don't care about.
Asiluga is actually an insanely good uber that essentially mimics Cyberpunk that removes the blindspot. While this makes him not stackable (not like you're gonna get multiple of him with 324 second recharge). He can pair up with Cyberpunk extremely effectively thanks to him effectively boosting Cyberpunk alongside covering his main weakness. Asiluga has a slow up medium combo with Gross Cat that when combined with Cyberpunk can achieve a near perma slow effect on the enemies miles away from any attacks effectively making the two one of the strongest forms of crowd control in the game. Asiluga having no blindspot means he also covers for Cyberpunk being a powerful crutch if enemies slip past Cyberpunk. Talents also give him neat benefits like 100% survive, extra slow duration, and RNG dodge.
I'd overall call Asiluga the second best Luga by a large margin even above other lugas like Shishilan and Balaluga. Shishilan just isn't favoured in the endgame environment thanks to the game loving to exploit his high knockback count weakness making him easily juggled alongside a sluggish attack rate, slow speed, and long foreswing making it extremely hard for him to get proper nuke damage off especially when mobility is so key. Balaluga while having a stronger status effect with freeze on paper suffers from things like longer attack rate, shorter duration on the freeze if you consider Asiluga's slow talents, not pairing with Cyberpunk as effectively, and talents boosting the wrong status effect on Balaluga being the less impactful weaken alongside only giving him 50% survive chance for some ungodly reason (Balaluga was robbed smh).
@@Flont40 the uptime difference is minimal in their true forms and piccolan has freeze and weaken which is much better. This makes up for the small uptime advantage that assassinlan has.
@@MilesNuggetBiggestFan You neglect to mention the insane combo Asiluga has that boosts not only his slow uptime, but other slow uptimes as well which includes Cyberpunk that he already pairs up with, and just how much Asiluga enhances Cyberpunk who is one of the best units in the game.
Bora 'not doing anything else' besides Alien nuking when he has about the same effective health vs Aliens as fucking Pai-Pai Z against reds is honestly just kinda comical.
It's almost like he doesn't actually care about whether they are any good and just wanted to hate on Pixies
@@phillystruck9003 aaaaaaalllllllllmost
15:07 yo we got a mobile corpse
WAIT WHY IS THAT ACTUALLY TERRIFYING-
Extremely common Canned L. But this is an even bigger L than usual
-gravi is an amazing anti relic and is way higher than “just decent”
-just because an uber is replaceable doesn’t mean it’s bad, pixies can still get lots of value and make things easier
-pixies is a very consistent set for anti alien
-people don’t roll pixies for an “x factor,” they roll it to get through itf early and easier for abaha and cotc. you missed the point of the set and are looking at it from a late game/end game perspective
-gravi is kind of like an x factor with his new anti relic talents
-pixie alien resist is VERY useful due to how many backliners aliens have, also warp resist and bbreak. DH lacks both
-Nekolugas are worse than pixies. Pixies have value in clearing aliens. most of the lugas are horrible generalists or horrible specialists.
-The average pixie will be worth more than a luga due to early game usage while some lugas are completely irredemable.
-most general support lugas are just as replaceable as pixies, even the “better” lugas.
-would you rather roll on pixies or lugas for early game? peon clear is harder to come by earlier and early stage design is super spammy so luffy isn’t great, and toge has terrible health 2nd form and alien backliners juggle him in true form. Meanwhile pixies can make aliens easier and a lot more of them are usable.
-no matter what, owning a pixie will ALWAYS make an alien stage easier even if they are replaceable.
-everyone has different experience, playstyles and approaches when playing this game so not all alien stages are free.
-bora is amazing for early, mid and even some late game stages. having mizli/volta is always more preferable than just having seafarer/psycho. aer is partially redeemed through his ultra form, gravi is amazing, yamii is a great wave blocker since octopus just gets shredded on many stages, bliza has some niches like zollows & super hippo, and tekachi can be redeemed through his true form.
I really hate talking about ubers It’s very repetitive at this point and it’s all talking about the meta. I personally think all ubers are good except for the generally actually terrible ubers like bliza and papaluga. It’s become really monotonous and once more, people only focus on the “This is really good” or “This one worse than this so it’s useless”. For example, Bora is great and is really good at nuking aliens but then there’s Aphrodite but Bora still has a lot of value basically turning aliens into a red mist without really much other support needed. Every uber has some way you can use them in the end game as pixies being really good in Ajillo Highlands, a pretty commonly difficult stage. Sure this stage can be done with soap, jetpack and seafarer, pixies can still provide extreme help here like Bora can absolutely nuke this stage, Voli helps with the crowd control, Gravi is an anti wave which is kinda whats necessary here, Mizili can push all of the aliens back a lot and etc etc. There’s a lot of other niche help other ubers can provide in other stages like you can use Papaluga who is once again terrible to counter heaven’s oasis, sure this isn’t late game but still is something you can do I guess. My point is just meta really isn’t the only thing that matters since not everyone better ubers and people like different things.
Nice pfp :3
@@Randomgalthe1stthanks
I really think that Yamii is better than at least half of the Ubers in the game, I'd say around 70th percentile. I think being a ranged wave blocker should already get you to past the 60th percentile, since it's a hard-to-replace ability, meanwhile many Ubers are replaceable.
I also think Tetsukachi is pretty usable for early game before you get access to Soap and Jetpack. Similarly Lumina is extremely strong before you get those Alien meatshields. Gravi too, plus is great against Relics
About the Pixies VS Nekolugas debate, considering how I'm basically moving Yamii and Gravi to A and Tetsukachi to C, I think that it is more often a good decision to roll Pixies, especially because you're only rolling if you need anti-aliens. Yes, Dark Heroes kinda outclasses it, but Guaranteed is sometimes only showing up on Pixies but not Dark Heroes. Also, the Nekolugas have more completely useless units, rather than just really bad. Blizana and Aer can always at the very least be Barrier Breakers especially in restriction stages and Mizli can be useful in... very rare circumstances. Meanwhile Papaluga. And Nekoluga and Nobiluga are arguably just as strong in a vacuum, but are easily replaceable with Sniper (albeit Sniper is kinda rare too) and Mina.
What the heck is this opnion? Only 3-4 lugas have uses, but still they barely help and they are very outclassed.
Bro even changed the title 💀
“You shouldn’t roll a set for the legend rare”
Say that to my Nanaho Kyosaka
You gotta be joking first the tier lists now this. Gravi even gets incredibly strong relic targets in his new talents amd no mention whatsoever. Your opinions are just biased af
Mizli is my favorite Uber (she was my first and she’s awesome like you said). I agree with your breakdown of her but her being awesome means she’s the best pixie by far, D tier but awesome should CLEARLY be above S tier
5:18 This can be applied to EVERY SINGLE UNIT that only targets some traits, by that logic Nekoluga is better than Mizli because he can target all the traits. The later you get in the game, the less you use generalist ubers because unless they're like Mitama or Chronos they won't be good enough or at least perform much worse than specialist ubers.
This video aint it
its like saying ''beef cake cat is better than hoop cat because he can target all traits''
or ''million dollar cat is better than can can because it can can attack metal and still give double money''
Um actually the worst gacha banner is the one where you can’t roll
How much did you get paid by the Lugas to say this?
For me, the pixies are very helpful. I’m not good at battle cats and being cheap Ubers with fast cooldown is really good for me XD they have really helped me with CotC.
I’m not skilled enough to use the Lugas. And I’ve been playing for 8 years. I think the pixies are really amazing for the average player.
Ok so, I have some thoughts on this that may help in some way (or may not.)
I do not have all pixies, but I can assure most that Juice mentioned here, for example, the use of Soap, Seafarer, and Psychocat are easier to use/get, but we can also mention the fact of pixies being somewhat of support for these units. What I want to say is, that pixies might be good. Let's say, for example, that we use Seafarer, and there are some enemies that have a longer range or that maybe are stronger, and possibly we could use Volta for this, and try a permafreeze. (If there is one, that is.) We can also mention the possible bulky/tanky enemies that may spawn, so we could use Bora to nuke them adding the freeze, making stages somewhat easier. Now, with Gravo having both alien and relic targets, he somewhat works as a swarm cleaner as for the lvl 4 wave, which is very useful. Aside from this, we have Mizli (and her cursed syndrome) that in very rare cases, push back enemies if these came to close to the base. (Yes, we all know that our ms will die to the backliners. This applies if our push was destroyed or if we ran out of money to keep spamming.) Lumina, dosen't have much, just her 1.4 mil hp against aliens and the weaken, and Yamii with his double target, but that isn't much in the end. Still, as Juice mentioned, these units get replaced in the future, and so, instead of main attackers, they could become support units. (Aside from Aer, Bliz, and Tetsu that are straight up bad.)
Just for short, pixies have somewhat bad stats and aspects, but instead of using them as our only attackers, we can use them as supports.
Just that. (Any other opinions are welcome!!!!)
The xenophobic banner
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"The fatphobic pixar movie" was that you?
@@bilingualfish4246 ?
So you're saying Aer
Mods, send this man Elemental Pixie r34, exactly all 213 results of it!
master a ruins it tbh
‘The worst gacha banner also has the 3rd best legend rare’
Ok
I don’t care if they’re shit, I’m still gonna try to get all the elemental pixies I already have two including the legend.
They aren't shit don't listen to this opinion
@@Dart-s7hthey arent shit hahaha 😂😂😂
@@Dart-s7hThey're not terrible just completely irrelevant and not worth the Catfood. Only good one is Gravolodon with max talents.
All the others combined including Lumina are worse than Lufalan.
@@basedcringe9000 Your talking about general use right? Because ofc they aren't as good as Luffylan. Thats like selling your cat bc it can't fight a dog. Your right, most of the time there irrelevant since only so many stages can have aliens. However... Can't that logic be applied towards every specialist. Windys Irrelevant most of the time, so is Idi since you can just use awaken Bahamat against anything thats not relic. Sanzo is irrelevant since not every stage has a floating enemy. You get me? You'd only role for pixies if you need anti alien stuff. It seems like you don't need the pixies as much as other ppl
@Dart-s7h Nah my argument is they're wildly less useful than what first appearances suggest. Lufalan breaks some stages where even the best Fest Ubers are worthless in, if he's not directly countered with peon spam and/or piercing damage he's just completely invalidating stage design and works even against Traitless. Thus making him better than all of them combined.
Gravi was saved by Ponos from their combined fate by making him relevant in UL which isn't baby mode like ItF and CotC.
If you're not tracking to get Gravi you're literally flushing 1500 cat food down the toilet because the others including Lumina were all powercrep by stage design in the Late Game.
I feel something that needs to be sold is that Pixies is one of if not the best banner to pull early gsme while Lugas only 1 is realy viable early on even later most pixies still demolish aliens while lugas inly really one luga shines late game being luffy
As the elemental pixies strongest soldier (i mean look at my pfp), yeahhhh they're rough. I'll admit even I stopped rolling them after i secured Volta and Bora. Hopefully some more care into talents and ultra forms will help eventually
I am willing to defend volta to my grave though, yes he does have overlap with seafarer, but like, dalisan has overlap with sanzo, and it doesn't make him worthless, it just makes the two of them together incredible at fully shutting down angels. Same with seafarer and volta, together they entirely shut down aliens, and volta does just enough consistent damage to clear out clusters of peons too. Yes he's not mandatory but he really helpful if you got him
@@SunshineCo225i’d honestly use both for the better freeze
Volta and Bora average w
@@SunshineCo225I do really like volta since he carried me through most of COTC, but I think the biggest difference in the comparison is that there just aren’t a lot of super threatening aliens that he’s good against that aren’t also good matchups for seafarer past COTC. Whereas daliasan besides his generalist value, has a kit that actively covers matchups that sanzo can’t like winged pigge, sleipnir, etc. Besides Gravi and Yamii since their niches aren’t restricted solely to alien, there just hasn’t been many alien stages where pixies would be super effective. Most of the pixies good matchups are against melee/pusher enemies, which usually just aren’t super threatening after COTC aside from boosted star peng, but there are only a few stages with them after COTC and they usually have non alien backliners that immediately shred through pixies low base hp.
@@benji5320 I do definitely agree and I do get the idea that late game aliens are kinda solved, but I feel like it's undervalued how much they matter. You have COTC yes, but you also have up to three crown SOL, which is a lot of work, and Volta/Bora/Gravi make getting through more consistent, and they can basically make honey trap and puffer planet free. Yes they're already not hard advants but they unlock a solid underrated anti alien, and one of the only 4 crown wave blockers. Plus not to mention zombie invasions that aren't mandatory but can be a nightmare without solid CC. And I feel like it's just worth noting their consistency for a chunk of the game, when the nekolugas have units that actually won't do shit for you anywhere, like papa. I still don't think they're the best banner once you get the higher value units, but I feel like Volta and some others are good enough to be applicable to game progression without feeling like I have to gamble for the more optimal ones like say, mad doctor klay. But that's my two cents.
Ah yes
Pixies:
Hyperspecialized
Gives middling Uber Rares at worse
Has notable specialists for endgame traits
is worse than:
Nekolugas
Exclusively consists of generalists
Is 2/3rds bad units
Contains the worst non-collab/seasonal Uber Rare
because pixies are hyperspecialized and there are non-uber units with the same abilities
sense
Basically what i got from this video is that "they no generalist so bad" but thats like saying catasaurus is trash because hes only good against metal
*Enter the I'm in the thick of It everybody knows True Form*
*"Tekakutuchi" [Uber Rare]*
Usually, you find it accidentally stub your toe and cause slight bleeding on a rock. it's called Tekachi TF but you require a mildly expensive stuff.. like Epic fruit Seed.
Tekakutuchi TF recieves a immense HP boost of 40%, ATK increases by 20%, range gets increased by 30, aand with a small increase of omnistrike range along with +10% dodge increase
The complete stats on moldy cheese synergy Tekakutuchi TF are really similar to Level 50 evolved form
Like the only lugas that are worth are Lufalan, Shishilan, and Assassilan (Assassilan catcombo is insane)
Pixies are better ubers on average for sure
Bora is pretty decent and while there are debatably better anti aliens he has a really fast recharge and still among the best anti aliens
Volta got robbed with talents
Mizli has been helped a ton by lategame aliens not being snipers and her being able to properly bully them.
Yamii and Gravi are pretty relevant units in their own rights as the former is a cracked wave shield and the latter is super good at its job as a cats in the cradle type tanker
Aer has a decent UF but you definitely undersold it a bit, should be in the tier volta is
Blizzana is a meme
Still waiting on mr block pixie to get tf though because he needs it
Considering there are only 3 lugas that are worth anything that is pretty good, you definitely undersold a lot of them
We love to see Asiluga respect around here.
well idk about you guys, but yamii carried me through Into the future and certain level in cats of the cosmos, no true form btw
I was about to make an entire argument but my page suddenly reloaded and it was deleted so...
Screw you i guess?
The pixies work amazingly in CotC which may be the most annoying stage of the game. Also imo their value comes more from barrier breaking than their actual abilities, since you dont have many good BB options in the game. I wouldnt really use a pixie in the later stages of the game but not like you would use any luga either.
Coming from someone who disagrees with this video a lot, Pixies value doesn't come from their barrier breaker lol. Kitty of Liberty exists and makes every barrier in the game irrelevant.
@@Flont40 a player in cotc will not have every single super rare, will have very few true forms, there are restriction stages in cotc where super rares arent allowed or you have to use fewer slots which means you would want a cat that can both break barriers and have some other abilities. Also imo just because there is a super rare that can do the same thing doesnt mean the ability is useless. You wouldnt say Mitama is bad because "just use cyberpunk he can also near perma slow"
@@suni420 Both Mitama and Cyberpunk are very different in how they slow things. Cyberpunk has a stackable slow where he slows things from miles away in exchange for fragility if the enemies get in his blindspot. Mitama is way more straightforward providing an amazing slow cc with insane uptime right then and there while having amazing survivability that makes keeping her alive a breeze. Both are clearly different in how they slow things and aren't comparable.
Now then even without Kitty of Liberty, there are still multiple ways to easily deal with barriers. Loincloth Cat, Li'l Macho Legs, and Space Cat true form are accessible by COTC and easily deal with barriers too. Also apart from ultra baa baa and Youcan, no aliens have a barrier that can't be broken through just sheer high damage from Can Can or Awakened Bahamut as well which makes barrier breaking as a whole even more redundant. Not saying the barrier breaking on pixies is useless since it's a nice bonus and is extra good on Gravolodon and Aer thanks to their pierce, but to say it's where their value comes from is a flat out lie. The reason I call this ability redundant is not only due to the existence of Kitty Liberty who 99.9% of people will have by endgame, but also with how easy a ton of barriers are to break without a barrier breaker in general with how weak all other barriers that aren't from Ultra Baa Baa and Youcan are.
Wait why are we even talking about COTC lol. The video focuses on the endgame methodology past COTC which is what a lot of rankers use to rank units as well. I also disagree with pixies being the worst normal banner even in endgame since I find Lugas and Dragon Emperors worse due to their lower lows, but can we please stick to the methodology of the video?
Never cook again
Canned juice fans when I introduce them to boxed milk:
If ponos didn’t bloat pixies with blizana and tetsukachi it would’ve been better. But lugas has consistently had garbage and also got bloated with more garbage
Blizana good tho
bro, the pixie banner IS supposed to be anti alien. Gravi is a tough vs alien. bora is a massive dmg against aliens. Yamii is to weaken aliens, bliza is to replica Gravi just weaker but also with zombie with killer, and etc. Though i respect you for talking about aer and his stats.
I hope everyone a good legendary ticket role
Iz the lady of mourning
Gaia
I got shadow gao, which seems good... but I already had him...
High lord babel and Cat clan heroes.. atleast babel looks cool and a legend rare
got Lumina herself
In my opinion (like yours) the pixies are much easier to use compared other banners.
They have resist which gives them bulk which is valuable when you don't have all the starred alien treasure in CotC and they all have low cooldowns which does provide you some insurance and makes them fairly easy to stack if the stage allows you to.
And all of them have barrier breaker which means if you don't have Kitty of Liberty in your loadout and you run into a Ultra Baabaa you won't have to back out and try again. And most of the pixies do have their nichies (especially in CotC) besides Aer, Blizzana, and Tekachi which can't be said for other banners like lugas.
And like you said Luminalia is a decent generalist but like the other pixies she has low cooldown, is fairly tanky, and has okay damage which boosts her value. When compared to other legends like the Dragon Emperors or Wargods she is far better and while this isn't the best example in Souptasta's one slot Battle Cats Luminalia and Bora were far more effective than Professor Abyss and Doktor Heaven.
While I enjoy the Lugas whenever I pulled one I was kind of disappointed but when I pulled a pixies I was actually pretty happy.
But yeah I gotta go to sleep now bye.